Non-Dairy Homemade Formula (Recipe and Video How-to)

by Sarah Homemade Baby Formula and First Foods, VideosComments: 273

non-dairy homemade formula instead of soy formulaLast week’s video covered how to make homemade milk based baby formula for your child if breastfeeding is not an option.

This week’s e-class covers how to make a non-dairy homemade formula if your child cannot tolerate milk based formula even if it is made with fresh, clean, grassfed, organic milk.

The following formula is based on homemade broth and a small amount of cooked, organic grassfed liver instead of milk as the source of protein.   Traditional cultures sometimes used liver pre-chewed by the Mother as a baby’s first food.   Liver is very easily digested and full of nutrition and cholesterol for baby’s rapidly developing brain.

Commercial hypoallergenic formulas rely on soy as the protein source.   Soy formula is a devastating food for babies as it is loaded with plant estrogens which wreak havoc with the baby’s developing hormonal system.   In addition, soy contains some of the highest levels of phytic acid found in any food.  Phytic acid contributes to poorly developed, cavity prone baby teeth and poor bone structure (i.e., turned in feet, flat feet, sunken chest etc) as it blocks mineral absorption.

Whatever you do, if your child cannot drink a milk based formula, DO NOT go for the soy!

What a relief for a concerned parent that a safe, healthy, nondairy homemade formula can be made at home with nutrient dense, whole food ingredients.

Most babies who cannot drink the homemade milk based formula THRIVE on this hypoallergenic homemade formula.

You will immediately notice that whey and lactose are used in this hypoallergenic recipe.   The vast majority of babies will do fine with these milk derived ingredients as it is the milk protein (casein), not the lactose or whey that was causing the problems with the milk based formula.   In the rare case that baby is not thriving on this formula, remove the whey and substitute dextrose or sucrose for the lactose.

Non-Dairy Homemade Formula Video How-to

Non-Dairy Homemade Formula

Makes about 36 ounces of homemade formula

Click here to find all the ingredients for the homemade formula such as gelatin, lactose, and acerola powder etc. as one package.

Ingredients

3 3/4 cups homemade beef, chicken, buffalo, turkey, duck, goose, or lamb stock
2 oz organic, grassfed liver (beef, buffalo, or lamb) cut into small pieces
1/4 cup liquid whey.   Do not use if baby shows signs of whey intolerance. DO NOT use powdered whey from the store or whey from making cheese.
5 TBL Lactose (substitute Dextrose or Sucrose if the baby cannot tolerate lactose)
1/4 tsp Bifidobacterium Infantis Powder
1/2 tsp unflavored fermented cod liver oil
1 tsp expeller pressed, organic sunflower oil
2 tsp organic, extra virgin olive oil (in a dark bottle)
1 TBL virgin coconut oil
1/4 tsp acerola powder

Instructions

Simmer the liver pieces gently in the homemade broth until cooked through.
Liquify the liver in the broth using a hand held blender or a food processor.
Let the broth cool, then stir in the remaining ingredients or blend for a few seconds in a blender.
Store formula in glass jars in the refrigerator.
To serve the homemade formula, pour into glass baby bottles and warm in a baby bottle warmer or in a pan of hot water.

NEVER microwave baby bottles!

See the homemade formula video above for details. Click here for a how-to for making homemade goats milk formula if you would like to try this first.

Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

Comments (273)

  • Sarah L.

    How about adapting this for a 8 months old baby? He is breastfed but he takes formula top ups especially in the night. He also started solids BLW style and eats egg yolks and yogurt daily with other steamed vegetable options. Do you think can I live the bifidum nad lactose out? How about cod liver oil? I seem to cannot find it where I live. I am so desperate to stop can formula. Please reply.

    June 27th, 2016 4:31 am Reply
    • Sarah

      An 8 month old baby would take the exact same homemade formula. At one year old, you can switch to plain raw milk.

      June 27th, 2016 7:20 am Reply
      • Sarah L.

        So again us in the third world countries cannot do what’s best for our kids. most of the ingredients bifidum, cod liver oil, lactose, acerola powder simply not available here and cannot be imported due to customs. We are left to the hands of Nestle. I was hoping since he is already breastfed and already on solids I can get away with it.. Alas.

        June 27th, 2016 9:20 pm Reply
        • Sarah

          I’m sure these ingredients are available via other brands. What country do you live in?

          June 27th, 2016 9:25 pm Reply
  • claudia

    Hi Sarah,
    My question to you is, you only add Vitamin C, what about the other vitamins that a regular formula has? Don’t they need that too? Also what about the fat that babies need for brain development?
    Thank you, Im so excited I found your links!

    June 16th, 2016 3:44 pm Reply
  • Satya

    Hello Sara,

    My child is 5 month old and he is on homemade milk formula since birth. He seems now developed some eczema.

    We are planning to switch to non-dairy formula. Can we replace beef liver with chicken liver? If not, can we use raw dessiccated liver instead frozen one? If so, how much we can replace the frozen 2oz liver?

    Thanks for your great help.

    June 11th, 2016 9:52 pm Reply
  • Noah’s mom

    I live in the middle east where raw camel milk is easily available. Is it ok as a formula substitute?

    June 9th, 2016 6:05 am Reply
    • Sarah

      Yes, if this is the most readily available raw milk you can find, camel milk is fine to use. Be sure to add the additional cream though per the recipe as camel milk is very low in cream (much lower than human milk).

      June 10th, 2016 5:09 pm Reply
  • Alicia

    Hi have twin boys that one has only been able to bottle feed and has done poorly on the raw milk that his twin brother and older brother does great on. I tried switching him to the liver base formula I did very slowly about 4 days and it was about 2 weeks we kept him on the liver based formula he felt fine no crying in pain. he did though get a horrible diaper rash. so we slowly put the raw milk formula in tell it is now 50/50, the diaper rash is gone but he now is crying in pain like he was before. what suggestions do you have for me i am just so lost and feeling helpless. just want to make him feel better but also not have a horrible painful diaper rash. I am also not able to pump enough to feed him or have the time to site all day by a plug to pump while chasing a 2 year old and nursing his twin brother. you suggestions and referrals would be greatly appreciated.

    May 28th, 2016 11:39 pm Reply
  • Kera

    How much does this typically cost to make and how long does a batch last?

    May 2nd, 2016 2:48 pm Reply
    • Donna

      Kera, it’s VERY difficult to calculate how much it costs to make this formula. It depends so much on where you live (organic chicken is much higher in some areas than others), whether you raise your own meat, and if you have a co-op that you can buy in bulk.

      We raise our own chickens, but I need two each week to make the broth, and so I have to buy organic chickens at Costco. If you raise your own beef, you could make a lot of broth with all the bones that come with your cow. The few other ingredients aren’t super expensive, except maybe Cod Liver Oil, as you want to buy the best brand.

      This has been a labor of love for me, as I want my baby to clean out and get rid of her eczema. But I have to admit, it hasn’t been easy making stock every week, and the formula every day. She’s worth it, though!!

      May 11th, 2016 9:56 pm Reply
  • Donna

    I was making the homemade cow’s milk formula for our adopted daughter. We have our own 100 percent grassfed herd so we had the fresh milk. She started getting eczema, so I switched to goat’s milk, from our own goats as well. The eczema just got worse and worse. I hesitantly decided to try this meat-based formula, and we’re on day six now, and the eczema is CONSIDERABLY better! I was shocked. I’m going to keep her on it until her whole body is clear, and then slowly introduce goat’s milk to see if she can tolerate it again. She was born drug addicted, so I’m not sure how much of the eczema is detox and how much is allergies. We’ll stick with the meat-based if it comes back. You have to be organized to make broth every week, and also have organic liver on-hand, but it’s worth it!!

    April 23rd, 2016 4:07 pm Reply
  • RLY

    Thanks for the wonderful videos! I’m wondering if pure fresh, maple syrup can be used instead of the Dextrose, or does the dextrose serve more purpose then sweetening? Thanks so much!

    March 21st, 2016 11:04 am Reply
    • Sarah

      Please do not use maple syrup and be sure to source nonGMO dextrose.

      March 21st, 2016 11:50 am Reply
  • noriko

    Hi Sarah

    I have been trying this meat based formula for the last 2 days to my new born son and he seems to like it. I mainly breastfeed him but decided to use this formula because he is anaemic due to being born 3 month prematurely. (He is now 38 weeks gestational age)
    My question is;
    Can I blend small amount of cooked liver into my breastmilk to increase the iron level? (I know that eating iron rich food does not increase the iron level of breastmilk.)
    Oral iron supplement recommended by the hospital makes him constipated.
    I know liver doesn’t. So, instead of making this formula, I am wondering if I could blend liver into my breastmilk.

    You thoughts?

    Thank!

    February 5th, 2016 6:10 am Reply
    • Jennifer

      Did you ever hear back about adding liver?

      March 22nd, 2016 2:41 pm Reply
  • lora

    Sarah – Ive been giving my son the milk formula since birth, he is now 3 months with eczema. I started him on the broth formula thinking that would be better for him & his skin – he seemed to have a harsh reaction to it – very runny stools for at least 2-3 days and black to dark brown with foul smells. He was crying more than i have ever heard him and his bottom burnt. I took him off and started goat milk.

    I just read in one of your comments that perhaps I transitioned too quickly? Is this a common reaction or should the transition from one formula to the next be much slower? I had thought that mixing different formulas in the day would be too much for a tiny baby? Any insight?

    And lastly- would making whey from organic goat yogurt be a logical match that would work for the goat formula if I end up going with that?

    Thanks for your help and your fantastic website.

    January 2nd, 2016 9:57 pm Reply
    • Sarah

      Yes, transitioning quickly would cause a change in stools that would last until the baby adjusted. If the broth formula still doesn’t work after slower transition, I would try the goat formula. Yes, and make whey from goat yogurt would be a good choice. Are you adding the fermented cod liver oil? A few individuals sometimes get skin reactions from it (the histamines from the fermentation) … perhaps switch to another “Best” brand that is nonfermented and try that too. http://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/cod-liver-oil-basics-and-recommendations/#brands

      January 3rd, 2016 8:00 am Reply
      • lora

        Thank you. That helps a lot.
        What would constitute a slow transition? Something like one bottle of broth formula (of his 4 bottles) a day for a few days and then stepping up from there?

        January 3rd, 2016 1:38 pm Reply
        • Sarah

          I would mix the two formulas 75-25 for a day or two and then 50-50 for another couple of days and then 25-75 for another couple of days and then finally 100% new formula after about a week of transitioning.

          January 3rd, 2016 1:45 pm Reply
          • Gabrielle

            Hello I’m in England and want to make this formula I do not think my baby can tolerate whey so can I just leave that out ? Also he is sensitive to cocanut so is there an alternative to that? How long does this formula last in the fridge and what about if your going out for the day? Can you make batches of it and store in the freezer? Do babies like the taste? Are there any health warnings? Should I add vitamins? Thanks

            January 20th, 2016 1:18 pm
      • Monica

        Hi, what can I use as Lactose replacement for lactose sensitivities?
        Thank you

        February 7th, 2016 10:18 am Reply
  • julia

    How long do you let the broth/liver cool before adding the other ingredients. It has been 45 minutes and it is still pretty hot to the touch. I dont want to denature anything I add. ie. probiotics. Also, if I freeze should I leave anything out until it is thawed (like the probiotics?)

    November 30th, 2015 10:36 pm Reply
  • Nabar EGxZist

    What about if your raising your baby vegan with no soy products? What type of formula do you have for that?

    November 22nd, 2015 8:02 pm Reply
  • Michelle

    You said in the video you would post where to find organic grass-fed liver. I’m not finding this. Any suggestions other than googling a local farm? I live in Chicago, IL. Thanks!

    November 4th, 2015 3:55 pm Reply
    • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

      eatwild.com

      November 4th, 2015 4:48 pm Reply
  • Courtney

    Can you use bone broth instead of stock?

    October 7th, 2015 5:21 pm Reply
    • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

      Yes.

      October 8th, 2015 9:04 am Reply
  • Courtney

    Hi Sarah, I need to get started making this formula asap, and I’m wondering if you can clear a couple of things up for me please? Firstly, can I make this head of time and freeze in portions with all ingredients? Or should I leave out the probiotics (or anything else) and add once defrosted? Also, I live in Australia where raw dairy products are illegal. Can I use an organic natural yoghurt, in which the farmers have used the lowest possible heat allowed to make the whey? Thank you so much x

    September 25th, 2015 12:14 am Reply
    • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

      It is best to freeze the raw milk and then keep unthawed raw milk in the fridge for what you need to make the formula fresh every day or two. Whey from pasteurized organic yogurt is fine, but making it from clabbered raw milk would be better.

      September 25th, 2015 7:30 am Reply
  • Courtney

    Hi Sarah, I’d love to know if I can make this in bulk and freeze it in portions. And also, I live in Australia where we don’t have access to raw dairy product. Could I use a natural yogurt from an organic grass fed company that uses the least heating allowed by law to make the whey? Thanks x

    September 24th, 2015 10:32 pm Reply
    • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

      It would be better to freeze the raw milk .. and then thaw and make the formula fresh every day or two.

      September 24th, 2015 10:34 pm Reply
  • Bethany

    When my son was a baby he had very BAD GERD. I was able to breastfeed with a specific diet. The GERD never got better as he aged. Now he has CROHN’S disease dxed at 10 yrs old. He had been on Neocate splash unflavored and gets most nutrition through a G/J tube but can still eat. I read the ingredients on this formula and it is gross. I spend all my effort trying to give him the best chewable food only to pump him full of junk. It also made him gain too much weight and hurts is guts.

    Id like to make this formula for him because it follows the Paleo and SCD diet and has all anti-inflammatory fats in it. What do you think the calorie content is? I have to keep it thin so I cant add carbohydrates to it.

    The Dr,s always want to know what the calorie consumption is. Will it gel up in a pump bag? I can keep it warm with a heating pad or hot packs.

    August 9th, 2015 11:00 am Reply
  • Theresa

    I have made these formula for 2 babies that have began drinking it around 9mos. They have done absutely great with it!!!
    We make it in bulk and freeze it but I am wondering about canning it – due to freezer space & ease. I could leave the probiotics out and add them in the bottles.
    Do you have any thoughts on this Sarah or anyone else?

    June 17th, 2015 1:20 am Reply
  • mamajo

    how about pork stock?

    May 31st, 2015 12:30 pm Reply
    • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

      Yes, that’s fine … just be sure the pork is pastured and from a clean source. NOT conventional pork bones.

      May 31st, 2015 2:24 pm Reply
      • mamajo

        great! thanks! also, for expeller pressed, organic sunflower oil, is it ok if i replace it with something else? from where i live, i have to order this and it says it takes 10-16 days for shipment to arrive my area. i have placed the order but i don’t want to wait that long to offer this formula to my baby, any suggestions?

        June 5th, 2015 7:03 pm Reply
      • mamajo

        also, in the recipe, there is TBL as units for various items, just wanted to double check and confirm with you that TBL is tablespoon?

        June 5th, 2015 7:05 pm Reply
        • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

          Yes

          June 5th, 2015 8:59 pm Reply
          • mamajo

            can i replace sunflower oil with olive oil just for now before i get it in the mail?

            June 6th, 2015 3:27 am
          • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

            Olive oil is already part of the formula. Sunflower oil has a completely different fat profile than olive oil so it can’t serve as a substitute. You could use sesame oil as a sub in a pinch.

            June 6th, 2015 9:27 am
  • sarah

    hello, i’ve seen this asked before but not answered: what nutritional value is lost when we omit the whey? also, do you salt your chicken broth when preparing it for baby? i always salt our weekly batch, but wasn’t sure about using salty broth for this formula. THANKS!!!

    April 19th, 2015 3:07 pm Reply
  • Abbey Johnson

    Can you use organic beef broth from the store instead of making your own stock? Also, what would be an alternative to the bifidobacterium powder and the fermented cod oil?

    April 7th, 2015 11:05 pm Reply
    • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

      No, absolutely not. Processed stock from the store is nutritionless and full of MSG. There are no substitutes for the fermented cod liver oil and baby probiotic. Please do not change this recipe or make substitutions!

      April 8th, 2015 7:59 am Reply
      • Tina

        Substitutions and omissions are necessary for my daughter or I just can’t use this recipe at all. She can not have whey, coconut oil, sunflower oil or lactose and I can’t afford probiotics but her organic multivitamins have them already. So, she doesn’t need them from another source.

        For some babies changes are just a must. There are literally no recipes that I can follow for her without changes due to her very very many allergies and intolerances.

        April 24th, 2015 11:34 am Reply
        • natalie

          I’m in the same situation as you Tina so if you figure this out please let me know. My baby is allergic to dairy, whey, casein, lactose, oats, sunflower, safflower, soy , and a bunch of other stuff.

          April 30th, 2015 2:30 pm Reply
      • Natalie

        Hello,

        My baby is allergic to sunflower and cod. Could I maybe add a little avocado or something else to replace this. She is also allergic to whey. I am struggling so bad to find something she can have due to all her allergies. She is allergic to dairy, casein, oats and many other things. When I make the stock will the vinegar be ok since it is for a baby? Also she is allergic to onion and carrot so what should I add to the stock? I desperately need some help finding a healthy option for my baby that she can tolerate. Please someone help. We are seeing a naturopath but she isn’t sure on what to give her. Is the high vitamin A a concern? When I showed her this recipe that was her concern. Please help! If anyone knows who I can contact to help my baby girl I would be so grateful. She is 6 months old. Thanks

        April 30th, 2015 2:26 pm Reply
        • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

          Please contact the staff at Biodynamicwellness.com They can walk you through the proper substitutions.

          April 30th, 2015 2:44 pm Reply
  • Audrey

    I have been giving my 7 week old this liver/broth formula for three days now and it has given him liquid stools.This is normal to start off with? How long should it take for him to have more normal bowel movements? I am concerned with him becoming dehydrated.

    March 28th, 2015 3:51 pm Reply
    • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

      Did you transition slowly from the last formula he was on? You shouldn’t switch wholesale from one to the other.

      March 28th, 2015 7:05 pm Reply
      • Audrey

        I was in a hurry to get him off the powdered soy formula so he was not transitioned. I hope I have not shocked his system too much.

        March 29th, 2015 5:30 pm Reply
        • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

          I certainly understand the hurry! You should probably try the raw dairy formula first … many babies that have problems with commercial formula that is dairy based can tolerate it.

          If not, then transition more slowly. I would start 75-25 and work up from there … getting fully over to the homemade formula within a week or two.

          March 29th, 2015 5:39 pm Reply
          • Audrey

            I tried him on the raw dairy formula first. First with the goats milk and then with cows milk. He reacted with screaming, constipation, bloating, bad acne, eczema and cradle cap. I am seeking help through a homeopath and she believes he is lactose intolerant. I am doing a non dairy run to see how he will respond. So far he has improved. No more screaming and his acne is drying up. We are dealing with his loose stool now.

            March 29th, 2015 6:03 pm
          • Audrey

            Should I transition him now even though he has been on the broth formula 100% since last Thursday? It seems that could mess things up further. I understand transitioning him next time.

            March 29th, 2015 6:06 pm
          • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

            It’s really up to you. You’re his mother, make the call as best you can. Transitioning so quickly to any new formula generally causes problems for a time.

            March 29th, 2015 9:19 pm
          • Audrey

            For clarification The milk I used in the formulas was raw.

            March 29th, 2015 6:07 pm
  • Audrey

    Could you use the Radiant Life Desiccated Liver in this formula? If so how much would you recommend?

    March 27th, 2015 11:46 am Reply
    • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

      You really should use fresh liver for this formula.

      March 27th, 2015 1:45 pm Reply
      • Jo

        Can I use pork stock and chicken liver? That’s the only bones and liver I can access that’s drug free in my area….

        April 5th, 2015 6:40 am Reply
        • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

          Yes, that will work.

          April 5th, 2015 9:21 am Reply
  • Audrey

    How long should it take to cook the liver in the stock at a simmer?

    March 26th, 2015 8:29 am Reply
    • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

      Just until it is cooked through. No longer.

      March 26th, 2015 10:00 am Reply
  • Grant DeLaney

    Hello, My wife and I have just spent the past couple of days working on this, and after the first couple of feedings our 6 month old baby is showing some rashes which are perhaps worse than his rash from the milk based homemade formula (we used low temp pasteurized and non-homogenized milk because we don’t own a cow and have yet to locate true raw milk).

    Anyhow, I am trying to isolate the problem. We did not add the whey or the lactose, and we’ve made another batch without the bifidobacterium and also leaving out the coconut oil. I am just trying to see if it will work for the baby and if he can tolerate the main ingredients… So I will update everyone once I find out. I am up at 3 am worried about this and I’ve now read through the 200 comments spanning 4 years or so and here is something that I do not see addressed and which only occurs to me after going through the process:

    How do you get 36 OZ, Approximately, out of the recipe as listed? Please explain!

    Unless I am totally missing something, even though I know I am making this without the liquid whey, and without the coconut oil, which would account for another 1 Ounce or so, this recipe makes WAY Less than 36 Ounces!! Am I missing something critical here? I am not a math major but if you take about 4 cups of broth, which is 16 OZ and add 2 OZ of cooked liver and a couple of teaspoons of oils, etc, as directed, how does that possibly add up to 36 ounces??

    Is there supposed to be water added to the formula, or is there something else I have overlooked? Sarah, or others, please review this and advise! Thank you very much!

    March 13th, 2015 2:54 am Reply
    • Grant DeLaney

      Oops, it is late… and my wife says she was short on the second batch she finished but clearly I am too tired to write the post I just posted… because there are 8 oz per cup, and that would / should just about add up… Sorry, just remove the whole comment and I will add a comment later about how our son is doing. Thanks!

      March 13th, 2015 3:00 am Reply
  • Nicole

    I was wondering if I could put the liver in with my bones and veggies when I’m making the bone broth. Would that take away from its nutrients at all? It would save a time consuming step.
    thanks

    March 1st, 2015 2:00 pm Reply
  • sarah H.

    As if being a mother is not hard enough ! Geez !! Just breast feed people !!!

    January 19th, 2015 11:15 am Reply
    • Meghan

      Sarah- you are probably a troll, but just in case you aren’t, I will reply to your unnecessary and rude comment.

      Not all of us can breastfeed, or maybe are adopting a young baby. For many of us, this is a healthier and much more economical option than commercial baby formulas.

      January 19th, 2015 4:51 pm Reply
      • Paige

        What Meghan said. I’ve been trying desperately to supply enough breast milk for my infant, and I just can’t. I’ll be damned if I’m going to buy corn syrup store brand, so this is a wonderful solution to help me feel slightly less worthless and ensure that I’m providing well for my son. Sarah H….good for you that you’ve got enough…enough milk and enough answers for everything, but some of us don’t.

        February 13th, 2015 9:32 pm Reply
  • ahill

    Can you freeze the liver based formula and if so for how long?

    December 22nd, 2014 7:10 pm Reply
    • Meghan

      I have frozen ours for several weeks at a time. I would think 3-6 months would be fine, but am not 100% sure of that.

      February 14th, 2015 2:47 pm Reply
      • Debby

        once frozen liver based formula is thawed, is it safe to refreeze?

        March 3rd, 2015 8:27 pm Reply
        • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

          I wouldn’t do that.

          March 4th, 2015 4:58 pm Reply
  • tatiana

    Could you address the issue of high levels of Vitamin A in the meat based liver formula? I am concerned with vit.A toxicity. This formula has 20x the vit.A found in breast milk and is almost 3x the daily allowance for infants! This is VERY concerning to me and probably the only thing holding me back form making this formula for my baby.

    Also, can you offer some guidance as to how to make the beef or chicken broth in detail? I was unable to find it on your site following the reference above in the comments. If I put my baby full time on this formula, how much should I be feeding my 3 month old? – the same amount as any other formula?

    I fed my first baby WAPF goat milk formula, which I learnt to make on your website, with much success! My second baby who is 3 months, did not do well on it. He became very oilly and developed skin allergies, psoriasis and other skin issues in relation to milk proteins. I tweaked the formula, tried different variations, and store bought alternatives with no success. I have been asked to put him on hypoallergenic formula. All the hydrolyzed formulas are full of chemically processed junk. I would really like to make this meat based liver formula for him and see him thrive like my last child. Please help me. Thank you for your support and information.

    November 25th, 2014 6:27 pm Reply
  • Rachael

    Hello, how many pounds of bones do you use for a batch of stock? Also, I saw a website that says you can reuse bones many times to make stock because they continue to release gelatin and minerals especially if you use beef feet. Do you feel it’s ok to reuse bones for making the stock in this formula? Thanks!

    October 28th, 2014 1:29 pm Reply
    • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

      If you check the category “soups and broths” on this blog all these questions including how to reuse the bones are answered.

      October 28th, 2014 1:32 pm Reply
      • Grant DeLaney

        I have a skeptical mom, though I am fed up with the powdered formulas. Can you show me statistics about the nutritional information of this formula? Can you show me statistics regarding how many babies and moms are using this formula. My instincts do tell me that this will be about a million times more healthy for my baby… and while it might be a bit less expensive than the premium commercial formulas it also comes with the added cost of lots of time making this… if my baby’s mom was motivated and ready to go we’d move forward. She prefers soy formula or neocate… and so between the time trying to make a second job of finding ingredients and making this formula and the uphill fight against momma, it looks like my baby will end up back on the powdered chalk if you cannot help provide me some research and stats… Any chance you can do that?? Sarah or anyone else that is part of this community? Your feedback and advice are appreciated. This is a stressful second job for a busy daddy with a baby allergic to all milk formulas and I really hate the soy but don’t know what to do?? Thanks!

        March 11th, 2015 6:45 pm Reply
  • Lori Lorenz

    If I leave out the whey, which nutrients am I missing out on? What else do I need to incorporate into my daughters meals?

    September 28th, 2014 2:07 am Reply
  • Kristine

    I made the liver based formula and cant get it thru the nipple. Any tips? I tried low and med flow. I strained the broth and liver. Baby is 4 mth

    August 16th, 2014 8:34 pm Reply
    • Lori Lorenz

      Try a stronger blender.

      September 28th, 2014 2:09 am Reply
  • alex

    Hi, Sarah
    I was just trying to purchase Frontier nutrition yeast from an online source, and before I checked out a CA Prop warning popped up on the screen: “CA Prop 65 WARNING: These products contain a chemical known to the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. ” I am concerned to use this in my formula. Can you please explain? Thanks!

    July 7th, 2014 7:31 pm Reply
    • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

      What is the chemical … never heard of this before. I would contact Radiant Life about this.

      July 7th, 2014 9:22 pm Reply
      • alex

        I am not sure what the exact chemical is. I contacted RL and they said that the are unaware of the chemical, but they are in fact looking for a new reliable supplier for their nutritional yeast. I am going to have to buy some from the health food store, but is there anything I should avoid in the ingredients when purchasing nutritional yeast?

        July 9th, 2014 6:39 pm Reply
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  • Audrey Belo

    Hi Sarah, I have a 20 months old baby with allergic proctocolitis, he was on neocate elemental formula for 14 months until I found your website. I started him on chicken broth because he can’t tolerate beef. My problem is when I tried him on lactose and dextrose, his tummy becomes bloated and his stool has mucus. Is the sugar really necessary? He is very intolerant to many types of food including banana, grapes and wheat. Also I find that he drinks more soup if I add lots of chicken liver and additional 2 pcs of egg yolks, I think he consumes about 5 ounces of chicken liver everyday with his soup. Is this ok? thank you so much for your website..

    February 20th, 2014 8:06 am Reply
  • Anna

    I remember reading under the link to the whey that you can keep it in the fridge for up to 6 months, but from my experience making this, I go through it so fast it doesn’t have time to reach the spoiling point. As far as freezing it, I keep a few quarts frozen as a back up, and I would say maybe 6 months? It’s not going to go bad, but you would risk freezer burn etc.

    January 16th, 2014 6:21 pm Reply
  • mike .a

    can anybody tell me how long can you keep whey in the refrigerator ? how long can you keep homemade formula in the freezer ?
    thank you very mcuh –

    January 16th, 2014 1:53 pm Reply
  • mike A

    can anybody tell me how long can you keep whey in the refrigerator ? how long can you keep homemade formula in the freezer ?
    thank you very mcuh

    December 17th, 2013 1:07 am Reply
  • Nikki

    Hi Sarah,
    I have been feeding my 5 month old baby the cow formula for the past 3 months and he is thriving. However I just noticed that you mention NOT to use whey from cheese. I have been ordering my whey from a local farm and just found out that it is made from cottage cheese. Is this ok? Why not cheese whey? What is the difference?

    December 10th, 2013 12:59 am Reply
  • louise

    My son is 17 months and he has allergy in soy,wheat and dairy (he gets hives) Can I remove the whey? I am wanting to try this on him because he also needs to gain weight. I realized that ELLACARE JR. has aspartame and the NEOCATE JR has aspartate.

    December 5th, 2013 7:33 am Reply
  • A

    Can anyone who makes this comment on the flavor please.

    November 10th, 2013 7:11 am Reply
  • Nigel

    Quick Question
    Can i make liquid whey from pasteurized milk?
    can i omit liquid whey completely?

    October 27th, 2013 11:26 pm Reply
  • Maggie

    Hi Sarah, I have a tough question for you. I exclusively pump breast milk for my baby because he never learned to latch properly. He is 9 months old now and as of a few weeks ago my milk supply dropped several ounces. I now produce 16-18oz of breast milk a day which isn’t enough for him (he typically consumes 22-24oz a day). I started making the milk-based formula to supplement him with but it turns out he’s allergic to cow’s milk. So, I made this liver-based formula yesterday and he hates it. He took one sip and completely refused it after that. I don’t know what to do. I refuse to give him commercial soy formula or nutramigen (which lists corn syrup solids as the first ingredient, how terrible).

    Do you have any suggestions? Since he is getting some breast milk I’m tempted to try supplementing him with coconut milk and just mix in the vitamins and good oils and maybe some egg yolk for protein, but I don’t want to do anything that’s going to compromise his health and nutrition. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

    October 17th, 2013 5:39 pm Reply
    • meghan

      Hi Maggie!

      My son was on the meat based formula from 7 or 8 months until 12 months. My little mister didn’t like the formula at first either so I mixed it 1/3 homemade formula to the rest store bought (we were no longer nursing at that point). Within 4-5 days I was making up each bottle with more than half homemade formula and the rest storebought. By the week’s end he was totally on the homemade formula, and LOVED it! (He is also allergic to cow’s milk, however I made my own whey and he could tolerate it in the formula, so you might try it?)

      Now, if you try an alternative to the meatbased formula, we like the coconut milk tonic from Eat Fat Lose Fat, but my little guy is 13 months old. I am not a nutritionist or anything, but I would think the ingredients would be fine for a younger baby (everything is natural), but you should probably read and research about it, and ask your doctor first.

      Here is my blog post about what we have done: http://megswlifeisgood.blogspot.com/2013/10/dairy-allergy-alternative-for-weaning.html

      I hope this helps you out. I am NOT a professional by any means, but if you want to email me, you can at megs501 at gmail.com Good luck!

      October 17th, 2013 8:11 pm Reply
      • Maggie

        Thanks so much for your reply Meghan. Your idea to mix the liver-based formula with commercial plus the link you posted to your recipe recipe sparked an idea for me to replace a few ounces of broth with coconut milk and it worked! Turns out he loves coconut milk :). I really didn’t want to give him any of the commercial formula again because he started gettig terrible diaper rashes from it and mucousy stool, but luckily the coconut milk makes the formula enticing enough for him and I’m okay with compromising some of the broth in the recipe and substituting with coconut milk, I’m confident that he’s still getting all the nurtients he needs especially because he started eating a good amount of solids as well. Thanks again! I really appreciate it.

        October 26th, 2013 8:44 pm Reply
        • Meghan

          Yay! I am go glad he is taking it. :). Hope he is 100% better soon.

          October 28th, 2013 7:33 am Reply
  • FRANCINE HANCOCK

    HI SARA,

    Is it safe to give your child raw milk? What about the bacteria in it. Isn’t that why they pasteurize it in the first place? I live in Florida and I don’t think is legal to drink that here what can I use instead? And last where can I get acerola powder? Sorry for all of the questions and thank you.

    October 10th, 2013 8:43 am Reply
  • AnnaM

    I just made up a batch of this formula for my 2 month old who I can’t breastfeed for medical reasons. I am wondering what to expect her stools to be like so that I can monitor those as well. The first few were quite runny – almost liquid stools. Is this normal? Thanks!

    September 25th, 2013 6:42 pm Reply
    • Kristie

      When I started my little ones on this formula, their stools were indeed very loose and a dark brown color, so it sounds pretty normal to me.

      September 25th, 2013 8:05 pm Reply
      • Deb

        Hello Christie
        How long did d runny stools last…. A lil worried abt it!

        November 18th, 2014 1:04 pm Reply
  • Michelle

    Thank you so much for this. My son had to be on Neutramigen due to my health reasons. I hated it! He was on it from 6-9 months and then I found this recipe. Amen!! We are making it and it is working great. Like another mom, we are also having problems with the nipple getting clogged. Any suggestions? Also, I know that with meat type products they should be reheated to 165 degrees before serving. Do you just heat this to room temperature or do you boil it again first? Just wanting to be cautious with food borne illness. Thanks.

    August 25th, 2013 8:35 pm Reply
  • Francesca

    Hello!
    I was so thankful to find this recipe today! My son is 4 months old and we have been using commercial hypoallergenic baby formula for almost 2 months. We have struggled with digestive issues since his birth and as a first time mama who had planned to breastfeed, I never knew there was another alternative. We tried our best at breastfeeding but he spit all of it back up and wound up losing weight and becoming dangerously dehydrated. After a terrifying ambulance trip to Pittsburgh Children’s Hospital he was diagnosed with allergies to everything and TERRIBLE reflux as his gut isn’t formed properly. So we have to thicken our formula with tons of rice cereal for it to be thick enough for him to keep down. He gets a tablespoon of rice cereal for every ounce of formula. So that comes to 24+ tablespoons of rice cereal each day!!
    Does anyone know of a natural alternative to rice cereal to thicken the homemade formula with? I am desperate to get him off of all of this processed gunk.
    Also, thank you for your posts about egg yolks for babies. I will soon be buying that book!!
    Thank you for your time,
    Francesca

    July 18th, 2013 11:56 pm Reply
    • Kristie

      Maybe gelatin would help to thicken it?

      July 19th, 2013 3:36 pm Reply
    • Amanda

      I know this is way too old of a comment to make any difference, but for others who are going through the thread.

      We used NESTERGEL which is a formula thickener to help keep the milk down. I know formula is bad – we did this before we knew what else to do.

      Also, I’m thinking the great lakes gelatin would work!

      February 28th, 2016 9:48 pm Reply
  • sara

    Hi Angie, it took 2 weeks for Isis’s stool to regulate after starting this formula. After the first 5 or so days her reflux started to subside and she finally got her appetite back so I also started giving her more solids as well, which helped solidify her stool. Good luck

    July 15th, 2013 2:51 pm Reply
  • Angie

    My 5 week old baby is currently on Nutramigen and has a horrible diaper rash. I started giving him the goats milk formula but soon found out he has a milk and soy allergy. I’m considering making this liver formula for him now because I’m tired of him being in so much pain from the nutramigen diaper rash. My question for anyone who has tried this formula is if it gave your baby diarrhea or watery stools? My little guy currently has 8+ bm’s a day and I’m desperate to ease his burning bottom pain. Thank you for any replies.

    July 14th, 2013 8:12 pm Reply
    • Kristie

      I am feeding this formula to my twins as a supplement to breastfeeding, so I can’t say for sure how the poops are for babies exclusively fed this formula, but I know that it caused my little ones to have looser, darker stools. Not runny really, just not the thicker, cottage cheese looking breast milk stool that it was. I’ve never had any problems with diarrhea or diaper rash though.

      July 19th, 2013 3:35 pm Reply
  • Renae

    I have a friend who has an abundance of rabbits on his farm which I use to make rabbit stew and was wondering if I can use rabbit liver for a substitute.

    July 9th, 2013 2:16 pm Reply
  • Renae

    Hello! I am a breast feeding, working mom and I’m trying so hard to keep up with my four month old and it is difficult. I feel guilty giving her any store bought formula. I came across this and I have to thank you for such a great alternative to breast feeding and instructional videos as well. However, I am unfortunately located in a small town in Arizona. There are co-ops that, I believe, sell the raw milk, but I am nervous about using it. I cannot even find ‘Natural by Nature’ milk anywhere. Whole Foods in Tucson has non-homegenized milk, but I can’t seem to find low-temp. As for finding the yogurt to make liquid whey, I’m having trouble finding that too. Any one else know of places to find these ingredients with brand names as well? I live about an hour in a half away from Tucson, Arizona and would gladly travel to find things, I just don’t know if I’m looking in the right places.

    July 7th, 2013 6:20 pm Reply
    • Rebecca

      Renae – Join this Yahoo group of parents that follow these feeding principles and you will tap into a whole community of people that will help you: newwaphb@yahoogroups.com. They talk all about WAPF parenting, etc. Obviously I don’t know about your location, but most of the dry ingredients can be ordered on iherb.com. If you are worried about the milk – just ask which farm they get it from, go there, meet the farmer, etc. You can make whey from that milk if it checks out. When you make the whey you will get yogurt as a byproduct that you can also feed to your child.

      July 8th, 2013 2:44 am Reply
      • Renae

        Thanks Rebecca! I’ll definitely check it out.

        July 9th, 2013 2:14 pm Reply
  • meghan

    My little guy is 9 months old. He has been on Nutramigen and nursed from 4-6 months. Then just Nutramigen (ick!)

    I made this formula last night. We tried it today, and he isn’t crazy about it. We have only had one feeding so far, so maybe he will grow used to it. But has anyone had problems getting their babies to drink it? He was really frustrated after the first few ounces.

    June 14th, 2013 11:02 am Reply
  • Michelle

    http://jennpike.wordpress.com/2010/01/09/home-made-rice-milk-based-infant-formula/ I should have added that i was using this recipe.

    May 19th, 2013 7:58 pm Reply
  • Michelle

    Hi!

    I have a 4 month old with moderate eczema due to milk allergies and probably other unknown allergies. I stopped giving him commercial formula about a month ago and gave him goat’s milk but it was unsuccessful. Then, about 2 weeks ago I started the liver based formula and noticed it help clear up his eczema, not completely but it dried out his flare ups but gradually my son weaned himself from the liver based formula and has been reluctant to go back on it. Now he’s sticking to breast-milk but my problem is that I don’t have enough to give him. I started giving him almond milk and he’s taking it but I’d like to know if you’ve heard of any infants that have thrived on it? Would you happen to have a almond-milk baby formula I can use? I’ve tried this formula, but I feel like it’s lacking some ingredients.

    Thanks,
    Michelle

    May 19th, 2013 7:51 pm Reply
  • Reina

    Hi Sarah,
    I came across your website after diving headfirst into the super nutrition book for babies I bought. My baby is on soy formula right now and I cant help to think that every time i feed her im giving her CRAP. I think about it constantly! five years ago with my son i didnt read labels, but working in the healthcare field has taught me ALOT. He was on Nutramigen. Can we say CORN SYRUP SOLIDS?! YUCK!!! Anyhow, I am going to try this formula out. I think im a little scared just because its so out of the ordinary (at least for me) to give her liver and soup at 6 months of age. What are your thought on cholesterol? We’re always taught about high cholesterol this and thats. This is good for you that is bad for you…Its all so overwhelming!! Im assuming babies thrive on it?

    May 15th, 2013 4:19 am Reply
    • Kristie

      I have been feeding this formula to my twins since they were two months old (partially breastfeeding as well), and now, at five months, they are doing great! They are meeting all developmental milestones and growing as they should. Babies need cholesterol (well, so do adults), so I wouldn’t worry about it. From the research I did, I found that there used to be commercial meat-based formulas on the market, but these were eventually replaced by soy.

      June 14th, 2013 2:08 pm Reply
  • sara

    Isis has normalized after 9 days of this formula, I left out the whey and the lactose and added 1 cup of apple juice and she now thrives. Thank you so much.

    May 9th, 2013 12:24 pm Reply
  • Ashlie

    Hi! I have a 9 month old lil guy who has a very high intolerance of Caisen and is doing very well ( finally after tons of formula trials) on nutramigen AA. Since this Is a hypoallergenic Amino acid based formula, not the one on any drugstore shelf, it’s $65 a can and we are really struggling t ok pay for it since he goes through a can in 2 days. We are down to our last 3 cans and I’m desperately seeking an alternative. Do you think this would be ok to give him?? I can’t add the whey or lactose. But really would be a blessing if this would work! Would love to hear back!!!! Thank you!!!!

    May 8th, 2013 4:50 pm Reply
  • sara

    Okay, so I have gathered all the ingredients for this formula BUT… not only is my baby highly allergic to lactose but is also allergic to corn. So the dextrose I bought will not work and sucrose is supposed to be a NO NO. Not really sure what choice I have as far as a sweetener goes. I am currently giving her soy which she is also allergic to but mildly. Any thoughts?

    April 27th, 2013 7:05 pm Reply
    • sara

      How about beet sugar or agave nectar?

      April 27th, 2013 7:13 pm Reply
      • sara

        I used a cup of apple juice to sweeten this formula, hoping my baby would drink it and she downed it.

        April 28th, 2013 2:04 pm Reply
    • Kristie

      What about maple syrup or molasses?

      April 28th, 2013 9:10 pm Reply
      • sara

        I never thought of maple syrup Ill have to see whats in it, but I know for sure that molasses contains corn and sucrose.Thought probably not as sweet as with a sugar sweetener, my baby really likes the hint of apple in the formula, and it adds a natural sweetness.:)

        April 29th, 2013 11:38 am Reply
        • sara

          Is it normal for babies to have watery poo when starting on this formula?

          May 1st, 2013 6:15 pm Reply
  • Diana

    Hi Kristie,

    I do not use homegrown bones. I use grass fed and pasture raised beef bones. My formula also solidifies. Though it does not seem to be much of a problem. I just scoop it out, and when I warm the bottle it turns into liquid. It does not require much heat for my formula to liquify. As far as the liver, I use fresh liver and my blender is able to break it up enough. Though I am at a point where I am using level 3 nipples, so that may be a difference. Hope that helps.

    March 2nd, 2013 12:03 pm Reply
    • Kristie

      Thank you! Yes, that does help. I just wanted to make sure I wasn’t the only one with “formula jelly.” :)

      March 2nd, 2013 12:45 pm Reply
  • Kristie

    I have been using this formula for a few days now to supplement breastfeeding my twins–their doctor said they weren’t gaining enough weight and sent me home with 4 cans of formula. I do not want to feed them that powdered crap though. But I digress…

    The babies seem to be taking to it alright, but I am only giving them about 4 ounces each a day so far. I don’t want my milk production to drop. I have been using the dessicated liver capsules from Radiant Life rather than frozen liver, and I too had issues with the nipple getting clogged from particles. I have been filtering the formula once through cheese cloth, and then a second filtering through some milk filters that we have.

    An issue I have been having however, is that since my homegrown chickens are so gelatinous, the formula is solidifying upon refrigeration; it turns into jelly. I have to scoop it out of the jar and try to get it into the bottle in this solid state, so it can be a bit messy. In addition, the fat is rising to the top, so I have a firm layer of fat on top of jelly. I try to stir the fat back in, but that makes quite a mess too. Any others using this formula have the same issue?

    March 2nd, 2013 11:27 am Reply
    • Natural Momma

      Hello! I cannot find an answer anywhere as to how many desiccated liver capsules to use in the goat milk formula instead of the raw liver. Can you please help me out? I started making this formula and so far have not added the desiccated liver because I can’t find anywhere that tells how much, only for the raw liver. I would greatly appreciate if you could tell me how much you use or point me to the source where you found dosage amounts since the serving size on the bottle is for adults. Thank you!

      August 27th, 2013 12:35 pm Reply
  • Klara Anna Gabanowicz via Facebook

    Ok. Thank you for your advice. :)

    February 28th, 2013 5:24 pm Reply
  • thehealthyhomeeconomist via Facebook

    On a side, note it seems to me the term “pediatric nutritionist” is an oxymoron.

    February 28th, 2013 8:28 am Reply
  • thehealthyhomeeconomist via Facebook

    Her advice shows her ignorance. Consult with someone who actually understands Vitamin A … biodynamicwellness.com does Skype consults and helps folks with the homemade formula all the time. Kim Schuette and her staff are very helpful in this area.

    February 28th, 2013 8:25 am Reply
  • Klara

    Yes…. why isn’t she responding? Sara, we would really love to hear from you. I NEED an answer to this (amoungst my other questions). What can I sibstitute the liver with? Other people above need answers too. Please help.

    February 27th, 2013 10:00 pm Reply
  • Diana

    Hi to all,

    This is my first time trying this formula. I really hope I can take my daughter off the powder formula I have been using to supplement my breast milk.

    I just made this formula and see there is a lot of white, oily foam on top. Is this normal?

    Reading the previous posts, can’t this formula work by taking out either the cod oil or the liver? This way you only have one source of Vit A. What if you leave both, the cod oil and liver out, would the formula suffer too much from lack of nutritional factors?

    Also, is Sara, the blog author, answering these latest posts? I used to see her name with her answers in the posts from 2010, but now, I don’t see any of the people’s questions being answered by Sara.

    February 27th, 2013 12:49 am Reply
  • Nora

    I have been feeding my adopted infant with Down Syndrome the raw milk formula for 3 months. She was thriving on it but is suddenly refluxing most of her feedings. She is on an NG tube and will be getting a G-tube soon. Anyway, I am going to try the hypoallergenic however I need to leave the liver out for now b/c it won’t go down the tube. As a matter of fact, it is a struggle to use this at all b/c as it cools, the gelatin gets thicker and also clogs the tube! Is there a powdered source of liver that I could substitute until she is on the G-tube which is a thicker tube? What is the liver providing nutritionally?

    Thank you.

    February 26th, 2013 5:15 pm Reply
    • APothecary

      Liver is exceptionally high in Vitamins A, D, E, K and all B vitamins!

      Vitamin B1 (thiamine)
      Vitamin B2 (riboflavin)
      Vitamin B3 (niacin or niacinamide)
      Vitamin B5 (pantothenic acid)
      Vitamin B6 (pyridoxine, pyridoxal, or pyridoxamine, or pyridoxine hydrochloride)
      Vitamin B7 (biotin)
      Vitamin B9 (folic acid)
      Vitamin B12 – Essential for making Hemoglobin

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B_vitamins

      February 26th, 2013 6:38 pm Reply
      • APothecary

        Forgot to add… Also high source of minerals: Iron, selenium, magnesium, zinc, copper, sodium, phosphorus, and potassium in particular.

        Also essential amino acids.

        February 26th, 2013 6:44 pm Reply
    • Kerin

      Dear Nora,

      Hi. I just wanted to post because I also have a Down Syndrome toddler that we adopted, his name is Nathan. We have had him since he was 1 month old. He had an AV Canal defect and congestive heart failure. He was on a NG tube until he was about 6 months old. The hospital sent us home with a formula and the instructions to keep him on an incline because of his reflux. He was very weak and it was very hard to put weight on him. His reflux was very bad, we could hardly hold him without everything coming up.

      We tried various commercial formulas, which I hate, but because he was a foster child we really had to do what the doctor told us. But finally, he did agree to allow us to put him on a goat milk formula. Unfortunately, he got so constipated on goats milk and he really stopped gaining weight. I was really frustrated because I wanted him to be on something that was good for his body. His reflux was still bad and I was getting less and less sleep trying to figure out what to do to help this little guy. We did start going to a chiropractor that had us pull his stomach down because she said the top of his stomach was above his diaphragm. She believed that is what caused the reflux. I pull his stomach down every morning. It might help some, but I did not see a drastic change at all in his reflux.

      I did start learning about the GAPS diet from a friend and also remembered about this broth based hypoallergenic formula. I was a bit hesitant at first because I always believed that babies should be on milk, but after learning about the healing benefits of broth I decided to try it. Nathan, actually started gaining weight on this formula and he is even a bit chunky. His constipation is much better, although I have to make sure that he gets quite a bit of fruit and fiber during the day to keep things moving. I know that constipation is very common for babies with Down Syndrome. But, I do want to mention that his reflux never did go away. I am starting to be convinced that it is a mechanical problem caused by first his Down Syndrome, every thing moves slower down his esophagus, second the NG tube probably caused scar tissue on the flapper valves and they don’t close properly anymore. Unfortunately with the NG tube it does not allow those valves to close all the way and scar tissue starts to formulate making it harder for the flapper valve to close. I have a feeling that his reflux is going to be a lifelong problem.

      Anyway, I wanted to write because I had so much trouble finding anyone who could help me with this problem. I will tell you that there are a number of internet sites that talk about reflux and the different techniques that will help your infant to keep her food down. We have wedges that Nathan sleeps on, bouncers and a gait trainer that he goes into after he eats, etc. If you every want to e-mail me to talk more about this I will give you my personal e-mail address.

      In conclusion, I am very happy to be using the hypoallergenic formula for my guy. He is getting so strong and healthy on it. As for the liver, it is so good for babies. I cook mine very good in the broth and then blend it with the broth in my Vitamix until it sounds like all the chunks are chopped up. After I blend in all the other ingredients I strain the formula through a fine strainer. I think it should go through the feeding tube, as for the thick gelatin, I think if you warm it first that should help. I do remember how frustrating it was to get some things through that feeding tube, but I do think this formula will go through.

      I pray for good results for you. My e-mail address is: rickmatthewsfamily@gmail.com.

      Take care,
      Kerin

      February 27th, 2013 11:02 pm Reply
  • Klara Gabanowicz

    Thank you Beth for your response. I almost cried. I can’t imagine what you must have gone through. That’s just terrifying. I’m a little confused at what you are saying though. My baby girl has Allery Colitis. She can’t digest cow milk protein. So, I am assuming you mean the whey from the cow’s milk ? (when you suggest using the raw milk forumla) I don’t want to use raw milk. My father is an agricultural biologist, and has strongly advised me against this. I can make the whey from yogurt or kefir or buttermilk. But going back to what I was concered about initially, isn’t there something I can replace the liver with? Something that isn’t so vitamin A rich? And Adreanne.. Maybe you’re right. I should possibly get a second opinion. The thing is that in this town it’s soooo hard to get in to see anyone (soooo many babies) so, I would rather jsut use a substitute. Why does it have to be liver anyway…?

    February 25th, 2013 6:43 pm Reply
  • APothecary

    Can you substitute Sunflower oil for Safflower oil? What is the shelf life of this formula?

    February 25th, 2013 2:55 pm Reply
  • Beth

    Klara,
    I have three children. Sadly, I have never had breast milk. The first two babies I raised with the Weston Price raw milk formula. Sarah also talks about it on this blog. They did great on it. With my third I was concerned had more gut health issues due to a decline in my health before having him and other issues. So I opted for this formula in an effort to heal his gut from an early age. I am a big believer in liver and cod liver oil. My other boys ate it all the time. It is wonderful for you.

    However, early on I noticed some huge differences in my third baby. Developmentally he was much slower… physically especially. I was a little nervous, but also thought maybe because I had had some antibiotics before having him and my health was not as good as I would have hoped before conceiving him (antibiotics, losing a pregnancy before him and not eating as well as I would have liked out of depression… not an excuse..) Around 3 months he got really sick and was sick for a whole month. Drs couldn’t figure out what was wrong with him. He was hospitalized and given just about every test. His head was hugely swollen and it turned out he had a serious double ear infection. My other kids have never had one ear infection. None of them are vaccinated nor do they eat eat pasteurized dairy. If you know anything about ear infections they have a lot to do with poor diet, vaccines, etc. His ear drum was perforated. Among other tests in the hospital they found out he had dangerously high levels of vitamin A, just like your nutritionist mentioned. If he wasn’t hospitalized I would have never known. His head was so swollen they did a CT scan and a spinal tap the second he was admitted. They thought he either had brain swelling or meningitis. It was very scary. I can’t tell you how sick he looked. I thought he was going to die. It was terrifying. I really hate to write this. I have been eating mostly Traditionally for almost ten years. I am much more strict with how I feed my children. I feed my children very strictly Weston Price nutrition. I believe in it strongly. I really believed in this formula. I was really excited about it because my family and I are on the GAPS diet and I wanted my youngest to begin gut healing right from the start. I made the formula exactly as stated.

    I did email Sally Fallon about it immediately and she was wonderful. She said it has been wonderful for so many babies and even saved many babies’ lives but my baby might have a hard time digesting so much vitamin a. She also said that beef liver has more vitamin a than chicken liver and I was using mostly beef liver. I immediately switched him to the raw milk formula my other boys were on and he healed beautifully and has caught up remarkably fast. He is basically right on track with where my other boys were developmentally at this point. Raw milk is amazing. His Dr. also said that she really thinks the only reason he got an ear infection was because of the high doses of vitamin A because it made his head so swollen. He also had several other signs of vitamin A poisoning, skin peeling, among other signs…Not to mention the blood tests that pointed out his dangerously high vitamin A levels. He was of course retested after he went on the raw milk formula and his levels went down to normal almost immediately. He has been tested recently as well. I do give him cod liver oil in his raw milk formula. I do plan on giving him liver soon. (he is almost ten months,) I started earlier with my other boys, but given what he went through I am holding off. I still very much believe in eating liver. I have seen the benefits in my boys. The formula was just too much for him. My advice: try the Raw milk formula. It has been a huge blessing to my family and to me as I have been so heartbroken to not have milk to nourish my babies. Again, it makes me sad to write this because I was so excited about this formula and believed so strongly in it. I almost didn’t write it. But given what happened to my baby and your concern over the vitamin A I really felt like I needed to.

    February 22nd, 2013 8:52 pm Reply
    • tatiana

      Beth, thank you so much for taking the time to write this. You have made a difference!
      I am concerned with vit.A toxicity. This formula has 20x the vit.A found in breast milk and is almost 3x the daily allowance for infants! …and that’s not even counting the added vitamin A of the cod liver oil! This is VERY concerning to me and probably the only thing holding me back form making this formula for my baby.

      No one has answered my questions or concerns. I find it a blessing to find your story in the comment. Thanks again!

      November 28th, 2014 5:07 pm Reply
    • Nicole

      I am concerned about the vit A as well. I have read and read thru all these comments and tried to find it elsewhere, but I can not find any further info on it. I hope she responds soon to this!!! It seems like we could cut down the liver and add something else to increase the B vitamins still

      February 19th, 2015 9:26 am Reply
  • Klara

    I love you blog and videos, however, I recently went to see a pediatric nutritionist regarding your hypoallergenic forumla, and she looked into your recipe. I told her I know she can’t legally tell me to try something that is not FDA approved forumla, but she did try to discourage me from using this formula recipse, citing that there are large amounts of vitamin A from the liver, and in combination with the cod liver oil that are way to high for children, especially babies. Is there anything else I can use that is not so high in Vitamin A? I don’t want to use the Nutramigen anymore, as there are large amounds of glutamic acid in there, but I also don’t want to give my baby dangerous amounts of Vitamin A either. We store vitamin A, unlike other vitamins that just pass through our systems.

    February 22nd, 2013 4:50 pm Reply
    • Adreanne

      Klara, I had my pediatrician, who reviewed the formula and vitamins, and she verified her feelings about it with the pediatric nutritionist who also gave me the green light, My daughter used it from 5 months of age until 13 1/2 months due to reactions to all replacements. She is a very smart Healthy 15 month old now and had no ill effects, is it possible she is just not for a homemade version at all? I know I had many other docs (urgent care misc visits etc) balk at me for the fact I made it at home, not even looking into it or the fact that the doctor recommended it as our best option as my daughter cannot tolerate corn products, or the sweetener in organic formula, and we had tried multiple formulas to no avail, as well as a strict diet change for me as I was only supplementing until 11mos. I am not in any way challenging your doc, or saying theyre against it, just thought it strange that our doctors would say it was fine, but yours after reviewing the same info, said no way :) is a second opinion available?

      February 23rd, 2013 1:16 am Reply
  • Jessica

    I would also like to know if you can use desiccated liver from Radiant Life. If so, what would the conversion be? Thank you,Jessica

    February 12th, 2013 6:24 pm Reply
    • Kristie

      I have been using 12.

      March 2nd, 2013 11:13 am Reply
  • David

    Sarah, can I use desiccated liver from radiant life in place of fresh for this formula? I have read on your blog that it is ok to do with the goat milk formula but not sre about this. Thanks.

    February 5th, 2013 12:21 pm Reply
  • Jessica

    Did anyone have success with this formula? I can’t liquefy the liver any further and it stops up the nipple.

    February 1st, 2013 1:32 pm Reply
    • Adreanne

      Jessica, we had great luck, just recently stopped using it at 13 mos when we finally found a substitute my daughter could tolerate. I will tell you my process, but keep in mind my daughter was older and eating meats etc so I was not worried about a small amount of liver pulp loss (and it was only a small amount) I would get my liver in large quantities and portion it out (I made double batches ever time if not more) in 4 oz portions. On a formula making day I would take the liver out first, it thaws really fast, once it was slightly softened, I sliced it into very thin and small chunks. I would then add it to the boiling broth, once cooked, I would pour the meat broth (I would make two batches so used one for just 4c broth then the other I would add all 4oz meat to) into my blender, use a screen (at the time I only had cheapo splatter screens) to pour half the liquid back into the pan. Then I would liquify the meat and remaining broth for a long time, I would usually start with chop for about 10 min and work up to the liquify, but I would usually leave it blending while I attacked other tasks out of the kitchen for a good 20 minutes. Then I would add the rest of that pan of liquid back, let it cool, and add my oils/lactose etc. sometimes in a crunch I would add all the ingreds to one batch but the lactose would not always dissolve so pour half off etc. most of the time I did per batch oils blending the cooled no meat broth to its own batch of ingreds. but when I pour the finished formula into my container ( I used a large pourable container, not individual bottles) I would again use the mesh screen to “catch” any unliquified liver, it usually only equated to a tablespoon or less left over pulp so I felt she was getting all the vitamins and enough of the liver, without this small amount. That is how I solved the clogged nipple problem, before I got wise to this trick, the playtex nurser bottles do have a Y cut nipple, that allows for the chunky stuff to go through with no choking hazard, but this is designed for an older baby as well as it would be waayy to fast for a small infant. Hope this helps!

      February 1st, 2013 1:45 pm Reply
  • Candace

    Can I make the liquid whey for this from my own breast milk? I plan to make the whey according to how you made it on your other whey making video, only using my breast milk rather than using raw milk which I cannot get in my Stste.

    January 4th, 2013 7:15 pm Reply
  • Tawsha

    I love coming to your website for information, thank you for all the helpful tips. I have a 3 year old and a 5 month old. I gave my 5 month old bone broth today because shes not seeming to get enough breast milk. I was thinking of giving her some formula along side breastfeeding. I came across some organic formula that looks good and i just was curious what your opinion of the ingredients are

    Ingredients

    Skimmed milk** (Germany, Austria), sweet whey powder* partly demineralised, vegetable oils* (palm oil, rape oil, sunflower oil), maltodextrin*, calcium chlorid 414mg/100g, Vitamin C 85mg/100g, Vitamin E 9.5mg/100g, ferrous lactate, zinc sulphate 3.7mg/100g, niacin 3.7mg/100g, calcium-D-pantothenate, copper sulphate, vitamin A, vitamin B1, vitamin B6, manganese sulphate, vitamin B2, potassic iodate, folic acid, vitamin K1, sodium selenate, vitamin D
    * organically grown
    ** organically grown to biodynamic standards

    thanks in advance!

    December 29th, 2012 12:20 pm Reply
  • Candace

    I was wondering what I could substitute the whey with?I see the dextrose to replace the lactose but nothing said about the whey can it be replaced with coconut kefir. Also Bernard Jensen makes a powder whey , why shouldn’t it be used? Which Bifidobacterium Infantis Powder is recommended, I have a few different brands? Thanks again and I know you cannot get back to me personally, however if you can just answer these questions here I can read them and be blessed with that. :-)

    November 19th, 2012 9:34 am Reply
  • Candace

    Yesterday after I sent you the comment I talked to a friend of mine who also suggested I try Goya brand Coconut milk to supplement with the breastfeeding . I tried and he really liked it however the can doesn’t say BPA free and it looks to have no real nutritional value can you tell me if using it is safe.

    October 26th, 2012 9:44 am Reply
  • Candace

    I want to say thanks so much for all that you do. My baby has milk Protein allergy I knew there had to be something I could do. I breastfeed exclusively but almost everything has whey or something in it that causes him gas. So i am gonna substitute. Also can I buy any of the ingredients needed at Whole Foods or Treasure Island in Chicago?

    October 25th, 2012 10:49 am Reply
  • Suzanne

    Hi Sarah,
    Thanks for this video. I was wondering if I could use chicken livers instead. I have a bunch in my freezer that I don’t use often and I’d like to use them up with this. Is there any reason you didn’t list chicken livers as well?

    October 8th, 2012 10:04 am Reply
    • Beth

      Suzanne,
      Yes, you can use chicken liver. I have emailed back and forth with Sally Fallon about this formula and chicken liver is wonderful to use.

      October 8th, 2012 12:44 pm Reply
  • Christi Luke

    Sarah, the babies have been throwing up on the milk based formula. I took out the yeast and one of them still threw up tonight. What do you suggest? Should I try this liver based or could it be the lactose? Please advise. I’m going crazy trying to figure this out!

    Thank you!

    September 4th, 2012 11:16 pm Reply
  • Susan Brown

    Hello,
    I just came across your website as I was looking for a healthy way to start my baby on solids. He is 5 months old, and has been diagnosed with Galactosemia, so he cannot have any lactose or galactose, his DNA does not produce the enzimes to digest them. It broke my heart to have to feed him soy formula because I am aware of the effects on the body, but that was the only alternative I was presented by the geneticist caring for him. I breastfed him for several days, and partially for a few months, and even though my baby did not show any symptoms, I was told to stop because all his tests show he does have the disorder. He is a big boy, healthy, and developing and growing just fine, by God’s grace. He has been exclusively on soy formula (the organic one) for about a month, but I want to introduce solids so he does not have to consume so much soy. I like the idea of your meat-based formula, and I would like to try it for my baby (I suspect my doctors will not approve, though). But, are there any modifications I would need to make for my baby’s particular situation, as far as lactose or galactose? I would very much appreciate your knowledge and experience. I have struggled so much with the issue of my baby’s food, and I would like to be more proactive in this matter. Thank you so much!

    August 22nd, 2012 11:59 pm Reply
  • Beth

    I have been using the liver formula for my 3 month old since he was born. (He is my third and after trying for months to breastfeed/pump for my first two babies, supplements, lact-aide, oral motor therapist etc etc… I never had more than about .75oz per feeding) I’ve always made homemade formula for my babies but I noticed my newest seems to have some issues. He seems to sleep better and be more comfortable when I eliminate the whey and I’m considering subbing the lactose but I really don’t want to. Something seems to bother him. I make him the digestive tea and give it to him all the time even though he hates it. He has never had a solid poo or even one with shape. It’s always runny. I’m concerned. Do you have any suggestions? Maybe something I’m doing wrong that I can fix? For my first two I made the raw milk formula but I have had some health issues and wanted to give him the broth based one because I felt it was more healing for his gut. Am I wrong? If he seems to do better without the whey I can’t imagine he’d do better on the raw milk one. What do you think? What should I do differently?

    August 4th, 2012 11:07 pm Reply
  • Kerin Matthews

    Hi Sarah,

    We are foster parents and are getting ready to pick up a premee baby from the hospital. He was born two and a half months ago and is just 5lbs. We are already using this formula for our 17 month Down Syndrome child and he is doing well on it.

    Would you suggest using this formula for the premee? Do you think the milk based formula would be better? We do have goats, but our other child could not tolerate milk.

    Also, we have lots of beef liver in the freezer. Do you just shred some liver off each time or thaw the liver? That seems to be the hardest part for me. I actually stopped using liver and started using farm fresh raw egg yolks in his formula. Please tell me if this is a bad idea. He seems to be doing good on it though. Everything else I fed him, including goats milk caused him to be constipated, refluxy and he did not gain weight very well.

    I do appreciate your sight. I am sooooooo grateful for this formula too. It has been a lifesaver. And I can finally sleep at night. :)

    Thanks so much!
    Kerin

    August 2nd, 2012 3:19 pm Reply
  • Lisa Grimm

    Hi Sarah,
    I put my 10 month old baby on Sally Fallon’s raw milk formula two weeks ago. Since then he has been having at least 4 very watery stools a day. He also has eczema on his face that I was hoping to clear up with this formula. The eczema is still flaring. Should I keep giving him the milk? Do you suggest removing any of the items to help stop the loose stools and to help heal the eczema? I am a first time mom and would love any guidance from you!

    Thanks!
    Lisa

    July 17th, 2012 5:31 pm Reply
  • Adreanne

    Sarah,
    I apologize for my last post I was frantically trying to figure this all out as my daughter is 7 1/2 months old now and still cannot sleep day or night due to tummy troubles. I have located all ingreds and made my first batch today minus the whey as my milk was not spoiled and is taking a long time to seperate, but I have some questions for you.
    1. My stock is no where near as clear and dark as yours in the video I used all organic grass fed bones and liver, and skimmed the fat. Is it ok to figure this will be different every batch?
    2. How long is it safe to let your why and kurds seperate? Mine has been out for over 48 hrs, I tried to seperate thru a cloth this am and the “Kurd” part is quite solid but very little of it, and the whey portion is very yellowish in color not near as clear as yours so I put it all back in the container to try to seperate further. My concern is to not get any protien in the whey as she is definatly protien sensative.
    3. what are we lacking leaving out the whey and should I put something in its place?

    This first batch she will not get much of any way but I am hoping to know these answers for the 2nd or 3rd go round as I am hoping after letting her acclimate to it we will be able to go on full formula as I really need to treat my medical conditions that are untreatable safely while nursing:) Thank you so much for all your videos they have made this process a breeze!

    July 12th, 2012 12:39 pm Reply
  • adreanne

    Sarah,
    I really need your help, I have my second malabsorber she is 6 1/2 months old and not doing well (better than brother as we have avoided all corn syrup sources) She cannot tolerate corn in the slightest, the only corn product (other than possible vitamin sources) in her formula is maltodextrin, and as a nursing mom I am giving her “empty” milk by cutting my diet down to white rice potatoes and meats, I cannot even take a vitamin supplement without her tummy aches. I am ordering the required supplies for the liver based and have found a different form of acreola powder without corn listed here, but I cannot find the nutrient info to see if its is the same as the concentrated now brand, heres the link http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/learn/acerola.php I cannot find pasture fed animals in my area as of yet (we live in corn country) until I find true pasture fed is it at least ok to use partally grain fed liver? have tons of other questions but cannot type as baby is upset as usual those will at least help me get started.

    June 24th, 2012 11:39 am Reply
  • Rebecca Winter

    Sarah – thank you for your blog, I read it every day! I am making both the milk and liver formulas for my newborn as I am not yet producing enough milk and she needs to gain weight. On days when I just do the liver, she doesn’t seem to have gained as much weight on the following morning as on days when I give her the milk formula. Is there any harm in increasing the amount of oils a bit? Do you have any general guidance on that? Also, for the milk formula, you mention 2 or more T of cream. Is 4 T too many?

    – Rebecca

    May 5th, 2012 2:10 pm Reply
  • Codie

    Hi! My son was in the hospital and they took him off breast milk since they found he had allergies, they said he could go back on breast milk within a few weeks and by then I couldn’t keep it in. They put him on a formula because he has a soy and casein allergy. He is now 14 months old, refuses to eat any solids, and has high liver enzymes. Corn syrup goes through the liver (no one can figure out what he has and they just keep testing him) and I believe the formula is causing the issues. I have been trying almond milk a couple times a day and he seems to be feeling better. Since he has a casein allergy, the lactose should be fine, correct? Thank you!

    February 27th, 2012 5:11 pm Reply
  • Sarah

    Hi, is there a way to make the formula not so gritty? It instantly settles and clogs the nipple of the bottle. Not sure if I’m doing something wrong. I am using the new desiccated liver from Radiant Life.

    Thanks if anyone can help!

    Sarah F.

    February 23rd, 2012 9:07 pm Reply
    • Rebecca Winter

      I strained it through cheese cloth and that worked perfectly.

      May 5th, 2012 2:11 pm Reply
  • Rachael

    p.s. My daughter also seems to get quite gassy on the liver based formula. What could be causing the gas?

    February 8th, 2012 10:27 pm Reply
  • Rachael

    Sarah, I see a light at the end of my tunnel. I wish I would have found this blog sooner. My daughter has had quite the time! I’ve discovered she can have nothing from the cow. She isn’t a huge fan of the broth, but I’ll keep trying it. Her stools are very loose though, and she seems to get gassy here and there. My questions:

    1. Should I go to a dairy free probiotic?
    2. I tried her on a lactose free formula, and she threw it up each time, so should I not consider lactose a problem?
    3. She had very slow weight gain so far on this formula, I’m nervous to give her solids if her digestive tract is weak. Plus, the only solid she will eat is a dippy egg, minus the whites. I was told to include a raw egg in the formula, and a major butt rash happened.

    Thank for your help in advance!

    February 8th, 2012 2:03 pm Reply
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  • Liz

    Hi Sarah, I’ve tried a number of different formula for my daughter after she had problems with breast milk. We’ve gone from an elemental formula to raw milk formula (constipated her) to raw milk formula with a kefir base (still constipated her) and now to liver formula which is causing eczema and loose/frequent stools. I am suspecting that I need to take out the whey and the lactose. Given the fact that she most likely has yeast overgrowth (we’re working on it!) I was wondering whether the dextrose or the sucrose would be the better option for her.

    Thank you!

    January 3rd, 2012 11:16 pm Reply
  • Stephanie

    Hello. My first and only son is 2 months old. I was only able to breastfeed him for 2 weeks. The pediatrician had us switch from regular formula to soy then to hypoallergenic to help him not spit up so much. I’m interested in making my own hypoallergenic formula but my husband is still on the border about it. Do you have any recommended readings to help him make a decision. Another important factor to me is the fact that we are not going to vaccinate him, would you suggest supplementing anything to help build his immunity?

    December 29th, 2011 2:17 am Reply
  • Sara

    The fermented cod liver oil link no longer works. Green Pasture Products does not carry “salty cod” or “antioxidant free.” Which supplier are you referencing? Thanks

    October 27th, 2011 11:59 am Reply
  • Stephanie

    PLEEEEASE help me! All of this confusion is making me literally sick. I can’t eat or sleep. I have tried 5 different commercial baby formulas on my 2nd son who is now 1 month old (our first son is 4 & 1/2 years old and was bottle fed Soy based commercial formula, which I am now scared to death that I did an awful terrible thing by doing that). We’ve tried 3 different Similac formulas (One specifically for sensitive tummies, and one called Alimentum Expert Care that I swore my baby was going to choke to death on, we actually had paramedics out to our house one morning because I couldn’t get his airways cleared of this thick sludge that was coming out of his nose and mouth :( ,and the original milk based one) none worked. So we tried 2 Enfamil formulas, newborn and ProSobee, the ProSobee is what he’s on now. It’s soy based. It’s the only thing that he is actually a happy baby on. I tried a goats milk formula and all he did was scream. He seemed to be in pain and he wanted to eat and eat annnnd EAT! But yet when he would eat he would pull away from the bottle and scream. It was horrific to go thru. It was not a regular cry, he was screaming in pain, grabbing my face and shirt, and unable to stop squirming :(

    I am soooo utterly confused at this point. I am TERRIFIED to try something else, we’ve already tried 6 things, one was completely organic (I made it myself at home, the goats milk one) and supposed to be hypoallergenic as well and it didn’t work. I don’t want my son to have health issues, but I also don’t want to put him thru anymore pain like with the first 4 commercial formulas and the goats milk one. Please help me figure out what to do!!!

    Another concern I have is that, if I start him on this liver formula, how much does it cost to make? I d on’t want to get him started on it and then run into more financial struggles and not be able to purchase what is needed for it. Can you please tell me an estimate of how much it costs to make??

    I’m sorry this post is so long, I’m desperate for help with this subject. Ugh

    Thank you soooo much for taking the time to read this and I VERY much look forward to hearing from you!………..Stephanie

    October 24th, 2011 6:12 pm Reply
    • Rachael

      This isn’t a lot of answers for you, but you’re not alone. I too am heart broken, and my husband thinks I’m nuts of how upset I get for my baby’s eating needs. He doesn’t understand that the mom, no matter how she feeds her baby, holds a huge responsibility. Our baby’s have a gut problem, and should have never had dairy. I found this out late. My daughter is 9 months old, and struggling. She kind of likes the liver-based, but not quite. Today I just bought a Digestive Tonic for her to add in with the liver-based formula. The Liver based formula should aid her in healing, which may very well take a long time. I’ve just read moms had to give this tonic with slippery elm bark for 3-4 months until the child was fine without it for every meal! My daughter also has a cold, which complicates things. I just have to remind myself, it will take some time for healing to take place. My current problem is that she gets loose stools from this, in which I’m waiting for an answer. I know when I introduce solids, this will change. Anyways, you’re not alone, you’re an awesome mom putting forth so much effort for her baby, and it will pay off.

      February 8th, 2012 2:13 pm Reply
  • Jessica

    Hi Sarah – don’t think I saw this question addressed. I want to start feeding my 3 month old the liver based formula but am concerned about the high level of Vitamin A (as per the Weston A. Price web site – 20,000 IU vs. 946 IU in breasmilk). Is this a concern and if not, why?

    Thanks in advance for you help. This is a great site!

    September 13th, 2011 11:38 am Reply
    • tatiana

      The fact that no one has taken the time to answer yours and many others questions and comments about the high levels of vitamin A found in this formula is VERY concerning!!!

      November 28th, 2014 5:17 pm Reply
      • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

        Natural vitamin A is not a problem nor any concern in this formula .. it is SYNTHETIC vitamin A that is toxic and should be avoided.

        November 30th, 2014 9:06 am Reply
  • Janelle

    Hi Sarah! My 7 month old has been suffering from eczema for the past 4 months, and after trying various natural treatments and making extreme dietary changes, it looks like she might be having a reaction to the casein in my breastmilk, so I’m going to try this formula.

    How long will this formula keep in the fridge and freezer?

    Also, we’ve had trouble offering her a bottle before, so if she takes just a little, but doesn’t finish the entire bottle, can I store the leftover formula and offer it again at a later time? Or should I dispose of any leftover formula since her saliva would’ve already come in contact with it?

    Thanks so much for the video!

    August 10th, 2011 4:49 pm Reply
    • Sarah

      HI Janelle, my son is about the same. 6.5 mo old. 4 months of horrible skin – lots of natural treatments and remedies, and a very extreme diet for me… and no real changes. I’ve been able to nearly eliminate the eczema, but he remains very rashy and itchy. I’m wondering how you discovered it might be the casein in your milk that was causing your baby’s issues? I assume you weren’t consuming dairy since it’s such a huge offender. Thanks for your help!

      I just made hits formula to supplement for baby as he’s very low weight and clearly has digestive issues so am hopeful for the gut healing that should come with it.

      April 19th, 2015 10:12 pm Reply
  • En Los Manos De Dios

    Sarah, thank you so much for helping other mothers to feed their families well. Obviously, God is blessing your work. Please forgive me, I wasn’t sure whether to post this question in your section with coconut milk tonic or in this non-dairy baby formula section. We are missionaries living on the American side of the border with Mexico. We have only been here for 2 months, and have been giving my 8 month old the raw cows milk formula since her birth. We have raised our previous 5 children on the same formula (we had a family cow for several years, and sold cultured dairy products), and they have thrived beautifully on it! During the first 5 weeks of being here, I used frozen raw milk from California while we searched for a farmer here. We looked and looked, and could not find anything within 4 hours of here, except for tainted milk over the border in Mexico. Shipping milk is not going to be affordable. And I dont currently have access to any good quality meats on a regular basis to make the hypoallergenic formula. So I’d really like to make formula with coconut milk- our family does well on all forms of coconut- but Im not sure about how much to use to parallel the cows milk in the formula recipe. We are big on superfoods, so anything that is desperately lacking in the coconut milk, I feel confident I can make up somehow. She is very happy with egg yolks and with other nutrient-dense foods, when they are available, and likes nutritional yeast. I want to make sure she is getting as much nutrition as she can, but not to overload her system. We will continue to search for cows milk, as the whole family needs it fresh and kefir-ed, but if you have any suggestions on how much canned coconut milk to use in the recipe, and secondly, how much if I can make homemade coconut milk with shredded coconut, as you demonstrate, as well as on the Tropical Traditions web site- I would very much appreciate that. I know the homemade should have a much better nutritional profile, I just have no idea how much, and several hours of research into nutrition facts have turned up little information, especially concerning the homemade version. I thank you in advance for your time considering this; I will anxiously await your reply! Thank you!

    August 5th, 2011 9:25 am Reply
    • Nicole

      Did you ever hear back from her regarding this? I would love to know if that is another option

      February 20th, 2015 10:35 am Reply
  • Lizzy

    Hi Sarah! I wish I had known about this formula when my daughter was an infant. She’s 3.5 now and still drinking Similac Alimentum RTF(the liquid one in a bottle). She’s very small for her age and has food allergies and I’ll have to find substitutes for the dextrose/sugar/whey. We’re avoiding sugar too. Would honey work you think? And do you think this will be a good replacement to the ones she’s drinking right now? I’m willing to try, anything to get her off this formula that has tons of sugar and soy oil. It’s the only one she’s tolerated. Thoughts? Advice? I hope she will drink this. Also what can I use to sub for sunflower oil? She’s sensitive to sunflower too. Would safflower oil work?

    Can I leave out the whey? She’s very sensitive to dairy as well. Sorry for all my questions.
    Thanks so much!

    July 19th, 2011 6:47 pm Reply
  • paula cook

    Hi, I love your website. I have a 9 mo. old and I’ve been giving him breastmilk plus organic formula made by earths best. I started giving him formula when I went back to work and I’m not making as much breastmilk as before so I supplement with that. I was just wondering if you think this is a good formula? I chose it because it was one of the few organic ones I could find. Do you know of a better organic formula other than your homemade one? I do want to try making yours and freezing it to use. What do you think some of the best first foods are to feed him because he has been eating food now also since he has 8 teeth now and loves it :)

    July 17th, 2011 3:51 pm Reply
  • Natalie

    In your opinion would switching between chicken and beef stock be hard on my infants digestion? Once I begin with the chicken should I stay with that? Also I want to tell you how much the videos help me! I am a visual learner and they have encouraged me to feel like this is definitely something I can do! I am so thankful for this recipe because the only other alternative for my baby is nutramingen. :(

    June 25th, 2011 10:38 am Reply
  • Natalie

    Thank You Sarah for getting back with me! I have a question about the whey. The protein in the whey is different than the protein from the milk itself right? I don’t really understand why that is. If for some reason my son has a reaction to the whey would coconut milk work to possibly make whey? And if I have to leave the whey out altogether is there enough protein in the formula for him from the stock?

    June 24th, 2011 12:10 pm Reply
    • Sarah, TheHealthyHomeEconomist

      Hi Natalie, no you can’t make whey from coconut milk. Leave out the whey if your son has a reaction to it.

      June 24th, 2011 1:19 pm Reply
  • Natalie

    Hi Sarah, I have not ever made beef broth. How many bones to water ratio do I need to make the same amount of broth shown in your turkey broth video? Also I have a Pur water filter. Do you think I should purchase water at the store to make the broth? I am reluctant because it all comes in plastic containers.
    Thank You so much for posting this recipe. My son has been breast fed for 5 months but I just am not producing enough milk for him now. I plan to make this very soon and I really hope he takes to it because he has had reactions to cow and goat milk formulas.

    June 23rd, 2011 6:46 pm Reply
    • Sarah, TheHealthyHomeEconomist

      Hi Natalie just use enough filtered water to just cover the beef bones. It is best to roast the beef bones 20 min on each side before starting the broth as well. Is there flouride in your water? Then perhaps buy spring water from the store. You can sometimes find it in glass bottles. If you have well water, a simple filter will do.

      June 23rd, 2011 7:01 pm Reply
  • Areej

    How long is the liver cooked and what should the texture be like?

    June 22nd, 2011 7:54 am Reply
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  • Areej

    can bone broth substitute the stocks?

    June 12th, 2011 11:27 am Reply
    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

      Hi Areej, bone broths and homemade stock are interchangeable terms … at least to me! :)

      June 12th, 2011 11:36 am Reply
  • Areej

    Hello,

    I’m a Breastfeeding Councelor and so pleased to see a safer alternative to formula but I do suggest getting some help from LLL or a local breastfeeding expert first and only use this mix for emergencies. Donated breastmilk should be the first choice if after counceling and help the mother cannot effectively breastfeed her baby to survive. There is a great group called Human Milk 4 Human Babies on facebook and you can find a chapter in your area/country.

    June 11th, 2011 7:05 am Reply
    • Casey

      While I agree breast milk is definitely the best choice, getting donated milk from moms who eat terrible diets or who could have diseases transmitted through breast milk is probably not better than this formula. Getting your donated breast milk through FB is a major gamble (and I’m speaking from experience with this exact group Areej mentioned). So, be very careful if you go that route.

      My son is allergic to dairy and the Bifidobacterium Infantis Powder says do not use if you’re allergic to dairy. Is there a substitute for this or there a reason this would be o.k. for babies with dairy allergies? Thanks.

      July 21st, 2013 6:21 pm Reply
  • Angie

    Ok, awesome. So it sounds like it isn’t super crucial. She is tolerating a nice array of solids now as well. I know….so so happy as well! I’ll report back when we are at 100% homemade. Almost there!

    May 9th, 2011 12:59 pm Reply
  • Angie

    Laura – how is your baby doing?

    Callie is taking to the liver formula!! It has taken FOREVER to get going w/ it but we are having success. We have many trips to her hematologist and have a bone marrow scheduled this week. Such a rough start for our little girl – but we are getting through and hope she just outgrows her issues. Anxious to get this week over with and hope for a benign result.

    Sarah – the liver formula is totally complete sans the whey and lactose. This question is forever looming w/ folks making this formula, I’m sure. I know it’s so rare to have issue here: I see the sub for lactose. Is there one for whey in case she doesn’t take it well?

    Hooray!! Will increase each day this week and hope to report 100% success very soon.

    Angie

    May 9th, 2011 9:23 am Reply
    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

      Hi Angie, no sub for the whey. Leave it out if she does not tolerate. She has the best chance of tolerating raw whey from a grassfed dairy source as opposed to liquid whey from pasteurized yogurt or kefir at the store. So glad things are progressing well for Callie!

      May 9th, 2011 10:08 am Reply
    • laura

      Hi Angie! sorry I haven’t been on for awhile and just was curious if you wrote back and you did!! My baby girl is doing wonderfully!!!!! cubby and all! No reflux no and diapers are normal. I am still doing the cow milk formula and she loves it! Glad you were able to get callie talking the liver formula! hope she is doing well now :)

      August 13th, 2011 1:45 pm Reply
  • Angie

    Hi Laura!

    I always forget to check back here. Pardon my delay!

    You know, we only trialed the goats milk as is and I totally wondered if making the whole formula would have made a difference? I just know she has such a terrible dairy intolerance as it is…i wondered if it would have really made that much difference? I don’t know?

    Well…I don’t think it was the coconut oil as I first suspected. I’ve actually been adding a drizzle in her morning egg yolk every other day now and she is fine. Her bottom was bright red the same day i first fed her this formula – and being a first time mom, I didn’t know that can be the result of teething:) So…I’ve been giving her Sarah’s/WAP’s liver based formula a bit more. The biggest issue is she doesn’t love it. She sort of holds the bottle in her mouth and plays around with it. But, I know she will eventually take to it – it’s just full of goodness – SOO much better than the neocate. She LOVES plain bone broth, though.

    I also made homemade rice milk this week and made the formula I found online – as stated above I’m not sold on it b/c of it not being as widely known. I think it’s a great option for perhaps a 1 year old who still can’t have cow’s milk and is on more solids? It’s super easy and it would be nice if I had more confidence in it.

    How is the cow’s milk formula going? OHHH I hope it works for you! SOO anxious to here!! That was my number 1 choice for sure (well second, actually as breastfeeding was first!). Ahhh – this little babe of ours has been such a mystery! Are you still able to breastfeed her? If that is the case, I would think the rice milk based formula would be fine if you wouldn’t need too much of it.

    Sorry so long:)

    April 15th, 2011 8:02 pm Reply
    • laura

      Angie! I’m guilty of the same thing.. not checking the site posts! Sorry!!

      Okay so this Saturday will be one whole week solely on the cow milk formula.( I mixed it w/ alimentum for 3 days) Her skin has improved but the eczema has not completely gone away ;( She did however go through a cleanse during the transition. It is a natural process that is flushing the body of the irritants and impurities from the commercial formula. We had a rough week 3-5 days.. extremely leaky diapers. Now it looks more like a breastfed baby stool. (BTW- i nursed until 4 mon… she’s 5 mon now- supply issues :(.. ) I would be curious to know how your daughter would be on the complete goat milk formula… after you hang in there for a few days (unless she is unbearable, of course!!) to see if she detoxes. The ingredients work together to help with the digestion. I actually would be afraid to just give my daughter just cow milk… just a thought!

      We are still battling with wheezing issues. She was in the hospital in feb with RSV and since then when she gets a simple cold she wheezes :( I have questioned the cow milk and I am thinking of switching to goat for this reason… you are right.. such mystery babies! ah!
      thanks for listening! :)

      April 22nd, 2011 1:23 am Reply
  • Laura

    It has been a rough 4 months for my baby girl. I began the elimination diet of dairy & nuts in january after her non stop crying & dark black in her stools. We saw an improvement but she was not gaining weight. I really tried to assure that I was getting enough calories / good foods- avocado ect but it just didn’t seem to help her weight, crawling up only a couple of ounces at a time. So I began supplementing from dr request, alimentum. We saw much improvement and she began actually sleeping for us. But then it seemed I either needed to eliminate more( taking out soy seemed to help) from my diet or what I now believe was/ is the formula causing dry patchy textured skin. Then she was in the hospital of RSV for 5 days so I think the stress of everything didn’t help my milk supply. So here we are trying to figure out what type of formula will be best with these protein sensitivities. All that to say, to you recommend we go with this meat based formula? Or I also heard good things about a goat milk formula. It is a modification from the one in the norishing traditions book. I just cringe on the idea of giving her alimentum or neocate full time. Thank you for your help!

    March 26th, 2011 10:19 pm Reply
    • Angie

      Hi Laura!

      We have similar stories as far as our protein sensitive babies go. Such a rough road, isn’t it?

      Our daughter has been on neocate for 6 weeks and I’ve been trying homemade formula here and there but haven’t had complete success yet. I’m determined to, however. Anyway, we trialed raw goat milk and I know it works for some but our daughter couldn’t handle it. So, we tried this formula and I thought she reacted to the coconut oil – but I really want to trial it again. No tummy trouble – just rash.

      If you have access to a reliable farm – you could try a touch of the raw goat milk for her to see if she does ok? That is what we did but it was a day of ouchy colic ( we only tried 1-2 ounces!). If you don’t have a nearby farm – go for it and try this meat based version. I froze mine in cubes. I struggled with her taking it – but – if our wee ones are became used to neocate/alimentum – then surely this would taste delicious after a few days!

      Good luck – my heart goes out to you. If you want to email me – I’m all ears. We’ve had a very rough start as well and it sounds like we have the same goals – that there has to be a better option. I’m also looking into a rice milk based option – but I’m not sure on that one as it isn’t as widely known as the WAP versions and I’m not sure it’s 100% complete.

      April 7th, 2011 9:03 pm Reply
      • laura

        Hi Angie
        Thanks for posting back to me! I actually just tried the cow milk recipe to rule it out. We had the muscle testing (applied kinesiology ) done and it didn’t reveal a cow milk allergy. So she just had 2 ounces this morning.. praying it works!! She LOVED the taste of it!!! Possibly the way it is processed was causing the specs of blood in her stool.. i guess i just have to wait & see!

        When you did the goat milk trial did you give her just a taste of the milk or did you do the nourishing traditions formula version? The gelatin really helps aid in digestion so I just wanted to mention it to you! Have you had any success with this formula without the coconut oil?

        I agree with you statement about the rice milk.. but I haven’t researched it enough. Let me know what you find out!!!
        :)

        April 12th, 2011 12:42 pm Reply
  • cindi flom

    Hi Sarah – My granddaughter has been put on Nutrimigen because ped thinks she has protein allergies. Her skin is very, very dry and her cheeks are bright red on other formulas. She constantly spits up even on the Nutrimigen. Her skin appears better but still not great. She is almost 8 months old. Would your homemade formula help her?

    Thanks!

    March 23rd, 2011 7:15 pm Reply
    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

      Cindi, please do try this formula with your granddaughter! This recipe is for babies with situations just as you describe! Please do get her off that horrible Nutrimigen!

      March 23rd, 2011 8:55 pm Reply
  • Angie

    Ok, thank you, Sarah! I’m going to make it this weekend.

    March 18th, 2011 1:21 pm Reply
    • lisa

      Curious Angie, how did it go? Does your daughter like it? How long did you simmer the liver in the broth? Thanks for any feedback. :-)

      July 21st, 2011 2:42 pm Reply
  • Angie

    HI Sarah!

    Well, we’ve been trialing raw goat milk this week. I’ve just given her an ounce here and there. Sadly, I’m suspecting her tummy being pretty upset. So, I think I will move to this version of homemade formula? For some reason, it doesn’t seem as ‘trusting’ b/c how do we really know how many minerals/vitamins are being extracted from the broth? I’m going to give it a go, though! I’ve just got to get her off of this neocate. She is doing better than the last time I wrote, though, but still not thriving on ‘goodness’ from nature!

    I’m going to go w/ chicken broth, I believe. Just cover a whole chicken w/ water…add some vinegar, and simmer for 48 hours is my plan. I need to research what you have on here for homemade broths for babes. If I’m missing something…can you let me know?

    Thank you so much again, Sarah. SO ready for a healthy feeding rhythm!

    March 18th, 2011 8:41 am Reply
    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

      Hi Angie, chicken broth should work fine. Let me know how it goes!

      March 18th, 2011 12:03 pm Reply
  • Angie

    Thank you, Sarah!

    I haven’t prepared it yet. I’ve also been calling our local goat farm and looking into that option as well. I guess I’m just not sure what DD is not able to tolerate – other than commercial dairy formula. I’m not sure how she would do w/ whey or lactose….or perhaps it was just the casein.

    Anyway…I will let you know if we go this route. I am SOO ready to feel good about what I’m feeding her!!

    March 5th, 2011 4:39 pm Reply
    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

      Hi Angie, can’t wait for you to report back on how your daughter is doing!

      March 5th, 2011 4:45 pm Reply
  • Alice

    Hi Sarah,

    I noticed that you can use broths made from a variety of meats. Is there a reason pork is excluded? Thanks.

    February 28th, 2011 5:37 pm Reply
  • Shelly

    This is so awesome! Our adopted dd was born 6 weeks premature on 1-28-11. Trying to feed her processed formula has been a constipation nightmare, which has her sleep-deprived parents frantically searching for an alternative solution. Thanks for giving us hope! We’re going to give the milk-based formula a try, even though I do have some apprehension about how she will do with it.

    In case she has trouble, I’ve been looking at the possibility of making this hypoallergenic recipe. I have some chicken and beef livers (naturally raised) that I’ve had in the freezer for probably close to 5 years. Is there a “freezer life” for food?

    Secondly, I was looking for your recipe for homemade broth and I couldn’t find it. Thanks for pouring yourself out that we might learn to better nourish ourselves and our families! God bless you and this ministry!

    February 21st, 2011 12:07 pm Reply
  • Nolvia

    Hi Sarah,

    I finally was able to find a farmer that sells grass fed beef and I have the liver to make the formula with. However, he only sells it by the pound but comes frozen. Can I cook all the liver at once and separate it into 2 ounce portions and freeze them ? Would this undermine the nutritional value of liver ? Any suggestions would help. Thanks.

    February 16th, 2011 8:13 pm Reply
    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

      Hi Nolvia, yes that is fine. Cook it all up and freeze in 2 oz portions is a great idea.

      February 16th, 2011 8:18 pm Reply
  • Angie

    Hello!

    I am having a terrible time feeding my daughter – 4 months old. I was unable to breastfeed due to medical reasons – I SOO wish I could breastfeed!

    Anyway, she cannot tolerate dairy based formula, nor soy. Her pediatrician has her on “neocate”, an elemental baby formula. It has been 8 days and she isn’t doing well. Nightwakings, constant moaning from gas and a tummy ache, and is super irritable and almost hyper I would say. I’m so scared that the first ingredient is corn syrup. My husband and I even steer clear of it and here I’m giving it to my infant as her source of nutrition!

    I KNOW my ped wouldn’t go for a homemade formula, but obviously nothing he has suggested is working. Is my wee one too young to try this? I need a nutritionist to help me and guide me through this as I’m scared to try anything at this point b/c she has reacted to everything it seems. I just don’t know where to turn anymore…we need some sleep after 4 months of a colicky unhappy little girl. I long for peace for her…and my hubby and I!

    Any thoughts? Thank you so much for your time and advice!

    Angie

    February 16th, 2011 8:20 am Reply
    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

      Angie, your child is not too young to use this formula. This recipe is fine to use for a baby this young. Please make some as soon as you can and let me know how your DD is doing.

      February 16th, 2011 9:28 am Reply
  • Nolvia

    Hi Sarah,

    This formula interest me but i have a few questions. Firstly, where is the calcium in this formula? Is that not important for a growing baby? Also, everyone tells me that liver is high in Vitamin A and along with the cod liver oil it will be toxic for a baby. Thanks for your help , your website is awesome and life changing.

    February 10th, 2011 3:20 am Reply
    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

      Hi Nolvia, the calcium is in the homemade broth – plenty of it! :) Liver is indeed high in vitamin A but in amounts that are necessary for the growing baby. The fermented cod liver oil recommended in this recipe is not toxic in the least. Some of the industrialized cod liver oils on the market are to be avoided but this particular brand is safe and nutritious as it is made the traditional way which most on the market are not. Most women have little vitamin A in their breastmilk as they don’t eat enough and plant based sources such as carrots do not convert well to true vitamin A in the gut which is why it is best to get it from a nutrient dense source such as liver.

      February 10th, 2011 9:02 am Reply
  • Bernease

    Hello Sarah, I am so glad to have found your website. I have a s month old and I was told she has eczema and I was told to take out all sugars and milk from her diet. Is there anything I may use to repalce sugar in the hypoallergenic formula. I know you use lactose in this formula and its sugar, would this work or is there something else. Thank you so much.

    Bernease,

    January 18th, 2011 7:06 pm Reply
    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

      Hi Bernease,

      The lactose should really be fine .. there is lactose in large amounts in human breastmilk after all. Give it a try. I really do think you will be delighted at how your baby thrives. Welcome to the blog, by the way! :)

      January 18th, 2011 7:27 pm Reply
  • Tatyana

    Hi Sarah,
    Would this formula be good for a toddler (almost 19 months) or do you know of any other home made recepie for formular for toddlers. My son is almost 19 months old and has been breastfed since his birth. He is very picky eater and very slow to gain weight (currently 20lbs and 6 oz). His GI doctor put him on appeatite medication, which did help, but I would like to take him off of it. My biggest challenge to get my son to eat protein. He is still breastfed before naptime, bedtime and at night and drinks only water. He doesn’t drink milk or eat yogurt. Also, how palatable is this formular?
    Thank you so much
    Tatyana

    January 12th, 2011 11:44 pm Reply
    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

      Hi Tatyana, typically the toddlers transition to regular fresh milk from the farm (raw) at one year.

      January 13th, 2011 8:26 am Reply
  • Joy

    Nice! Wish I’d known about this months ago when I had to stop breastfeeding my son at 8 months old. For a kidney problem I have, I had to take maintenance antibiotics every day, and it seemed to really affect his poor digestive tract. He did so much better when I weaned him. But if I had known you could make your own hypoallergenic formula, I would not have had to even try the Nutramigen or Alimentum or any of those. I hate how the first ingredient is corn syrup solids (are you KIDDING me???), and Lord knows what else. Plus the mix just SMELLS awful, and my son hated it too. He was drinking just barely enough to stay hydrated. Fortunately I ignored my pedi’s advice and went with my Mommy instincts, and gave him Oat Milk. He sucked down a full bottle and then promptly slept for 5 hours straight ( way longer than I had ever had him sleep before without waking).
    Anywho, he’s just doing regular cow’s milk now, and is healthy as can be. We’re still working on the sleeping issues, but they are much improved.
    Now I know where to look if I need this for another baby down the line!
    Thanks~

    January 5th, 2011 11:35 pm Reply
    • Mary

      What is Oat Milk???? Do you mean Goat Milk?? I am very interested in another hypoallergenic formula!

      April 11th, 2013 9:44 pm Reply
  • Maryellen

    Hi Sarah,

    I have two questions:

    How long can the formula be kept in the fridge, and also, can the cow’s livers be frozen, or must they be fresh?

    Thanks,
    Maryellen

    January 3rd, 2011 4:00 pm Reply
    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

      Hi Maryellen, the cow liver can be frozen .. that is fine.

      The formula is good for about 1 week. Feel free to freeze it in 4 or 9 oz servings just like you would human breastmilk.

      January 3rd, 2011 4:31 pm Reply
  • Ranjani Krishnan

    Dear Sarah,

    Thanks again for your wonderful resource. Being a health-freak makes me feel like such a cantankerous minority sometimes when I interact with the rest of the world. I appreciate your rigor and commitment to being healthy and helping others make good decisions. I have several questions about the ingredients used in this formula. I appreciate your patience in answering these questions:

    Would it be alright to use a product called coconut nectar by coconut secret instead of the lactose? So far, my baby has taken to it well. It is supposed to be very high in inulin and has a fairly low glycemic index. If you think it is okay to use, what amount would you recommend?

    Would you say that “Bifidobacterium Infantis Powder” is the only probiotic we could use or could we use other strains?

    Why is fermented cod liver oil used? Why not plain? Also, if I can find the amount of vitamin A and D levels, can I use krill oil? Or give the krill/cod liver oil separately through a dropper?

    I have read and heard that sunflower oil and olive oil are higher in omega-6’s so is there a reason to give the baby these oils or can they be excluded from the recipe? Do you know the omega 3 to omega 6 ratio of coconut oil?

    Since liver contains a lot of vitamin C, I am wondering about the purpose of using acerola powder.

    How do you know when the liver is cooked through? Is there a test I can do?

    Can the whey liquid come from organic pasturized cow yoghurt? We are having a lot of trouble finding raw milk.

    Peace,
    Ranjani.

    January 1st, 2011 3:42 pm Reply
    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

      Hi Ranjani, I would stick with the lactose .. there is lactose in human breastmilk. Best to stick with nature’s prescription. As for the omega 6 oils .. please remember that omega 6 fats are ESSENTIAL fats. The body cannot make them and so MUST be included in the diet for health. The problem with them ONLY comes in when folks overconsume them in the form of rancid vegetable oils in processed foods. The fermented cod liver oil is a much better choice than the krill oil, which is highly processed at obscenely high temperatures. Adding the acerola powder, is again, to mimic the nutrients in human breastmilk. Using whey from store yogurt is absolutely fine, although raw whey would be best. The liver is cooked through when there is no more pink in the center.

      Hope that helps and the best to you and your baby!!

      January 2nd, 2011 8:08 pm Reply
      • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

        Oh, and coconut oil does not have omega 3 and omega 6 fats in it and neither does olive oil (which is an omega 9 oil). Coconut oil is a medium chain saturated fat.

        January 2nd, 2011 8:10 pm Reply
  • Colin

    I just wanted to tell you Sarah that what you are doing is a wonderful thing! Spreading this formula and others like it from the Weston A. Price Foundation is doing such a service to those of us who are sick and tired of mega-corporations telling us that the chemicals they put in their products are just the same as those vitamins found in food. I can personally say that these Home made formulas work great! My Daughter(now 2 years old) thrived on it. She is healthy and vibrant and a curious bright little girl. My 2 month old is doing wonderfully as well because of the home made formula. I only wish I knew of this recipe sooner so my 4 year old son could have also been fortunate enough to get such great nutrition. He was raised on Enfamil sadly and I regret it to this day.

    I strongly suggest anyone considering this formula to go ahead and do it! Don’t have a second thought! It is so worth your time and effort(which isn’t as much as it seems) and you are investing in the health of your children which is invaluable. My kids don’t get sick that often and I often attribute it to a healthy start in life(and continuing good nutrition).

    Making this formula will be one of the best decisions you could ever make as a parent of an infant, I promise you that!

    December 18th, 2010 11:22 am Reply
    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

      Thanks Colin for taking the time to post your positive experience using this formula! I’m sure it will prove very beneficial to others.

      December 18th, 2010 1:30 pm Reply
    • Angie

      Hi Colin!

      Would you be able to connect with me via email? I have some questions for you! Sarah has helped me a lot so far in my quest to find a healthy formula for our daughter. Awesome to hear you had success with this recipe!

      April 7th, 2011 8:54 pm Reply
  • Anonymous

    Hi Sarah Jane,

    Thank you sooooo much – I tried iherb and my lactose is on its way for under $8. So grateful for the tip!!

    Shannon

    November 9th, 2010 2:55 am Reply
  • Sarah Jane

    Shannon,
    Try iherb.com. I think they ship to Canada.

    October 26th, 2010 4:27 am Reply
  • Anonymous

    Hello there,

    I'm a Canadian reader, having a heck of a time getting the lactose milk sugar. Amazon won't ship it to Canada, and through radiant life, it's $5 for the product, and $25 to get it here. Any Canadian readers out there who have sourced this domestically?

    Thanks!
    Shannon

    October 25th, 2010 8:10 pm Reply
    • Milena

      Hi Shannon,
      I live in Toronto and have been ordering lactose from bulkfoods.com. You can buy it in 5lb bags. The shipping is more than the product though.

      January 2nd, 2011 1:38 pm Reply
  • Sarah Jane

    What brand of immersion blender do you use?

    October 13th, 2010 12:39 pm Reply
  • Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist

    Oh, and I cook the liver until it is just done. Not a minute longer.

    October 13th, 2010 1:20 am Reply
  • Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist

    Hi Sarah Jane, try a food processor. This should work fine if you are having blender troubles.

    October 13th, 2010 1:19 am Reply
  • Sarah Jane

    I tried twice now, to liquify the liver. I used a cheap blender the first time and a Bosch blender the 2nd. Both times, there were still chunks. What brand do you use to liquify the liver? Is it possible that I have overcooked the liver? Could you give some details as to how long you cook the liver?

    It is amazing at how well the baby that is now on this formula is doing!! In spite of the chunks!!!

    I appreciate your blog so much!!!

    October 12th, 2010 9:37 pm Reply
  • Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist

    Hi Sarah Jane, the liver really needs to be as close to liquified as possible. Perhaps your need to try a more powerful blender/food processor?

    October 7th, 2010 12:59 am Reply
  • Sarah Jane

    I have been making this formula for a friend with a 13 month old who has been on nutramagin (sp?) — yuck!!! I am making it for him to hopefully help some of his problems. I am learning how to do it now so when my husband and I adopt an infant (hopefully within a year) I will be a pro. :)
    The only problem I am having is that the liver clogs the bottle. Since he is 13 month old it is not too much trouble, but with a newborn it would be a problem. For one the whole in the nipple would be too small and would it cause them to choke if a chunk did get through the nipple. I tried straining the liver and broth before mixing the other ingredients in, but it seemed as though I strained out ALL the liver. I don't want to sacrifice the nutrition if there is a better way.

    October 6th, 2010 10:59 pm Reply
  • Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist

    Hi Sarah Jane, I do not know of any substitutes for the acerola powder with the maltodextrin. Yes, it is added for the whole foods based vitamin C only. You can leave it out if you can't find anything else that the infant can tolerate.

    September 28th, 2010 1:48 am Reply
    • Brittany

      What about camu camu powder? Also freezing the raw milk dairy formula is a no go, our baby hurls the formula back up. It has to be fresh.

      February 6th, 2014 3:39 am Reply
    • mamajo

      for the expeller pressed sunflower oil, what if i can only find regular sunflower oil?

      April 11th, 2015 8:23 am Reply
      • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

        Expeller pressed sunflower oil IS regular sunflower oil.

        April 11th, 2015 5:50 pm Reply
  • Sarah Jane

    I am making this recipe for an infant that may have issues with corn and I cannot find the acerola powder without maltodextrin (corn). Is there a good substitute for this? Is it added for the Vitamin C only?

    September 27th, 2010 7:51 pm Reply
  • Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist

    Hi Sarah Jane, no it is organic sugar which is sucanat with the molasses removed. See down below in the Amazon store for a brand suggestion. This is not a great alternative by any stretch, but if the baby can't do lactose, dextrose or sucrose are really the only viable alternatives.

    September 22nd, 2010 10:38 pm Reply
  • Sarah Jane

    Is sucrose and sucanat the same thing? I use sucanat already and wondered if I could use this in the formula recipe.

    September 22nd, 2010 10:33 pm Reply
  • Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist

    Hi Shannon, I would stick to just introducing foods as you are doing and use breastfeeding as the primary source of liquid for your child. Breastmilk from a well nourished Mom is always the best. I breastfed my children for 2 years each (the last one for 3 1/2 years until self weaning as she was my last child) and always used breastmilk as the primary liquid unless they just needed some water for thirst or whatever. If you use the homemade formula at mealtimes this will reduce the breastfeeding which is not the best choice unless of course you simply can't nurse in which case this is the next best alternative!

    September 22nd, 2010 12:13 pm Reply
    • mamajo

      I’m just curious…….would a baby that has been accustomed to breastmilk be accepting to this formula? my baby has allergies to clearly my breastmilk but no matter what i cut in my diet doesn’t seem to help, so i would like for her to try this next best thing but how would she take the taste of it? any recommendation?

      April 11th, 2015 8:21 am Reply
      • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

        You will have to transition and see as recommended by lactation specialists. Don’t switch wholesale as this would be very distressing to baby.

        April 11th, 2015 5:51 pm Reply
  • onceuponthekitchencounter

    Hi Sarah,

    I'm a new Mom, and so far just breastfeeding and starting to feed egg yolks to my daughter. I was thinking of making this or the milk-based formula as a back-up in case of emergency, and freezing it. Then I got to thinking about when my daughter sits up in her highchair to eat. What do you think of making this as a drink for a baby/toddler to sip with meals, or to use as the liquid base in pureed homemade foods for baby? Thanks!!

    Shannon

    September 22nd, 2010 2:36 am Reply
  • MamaAnt

    Yay! That is good to know!
    Thanks

    September 21st, 2010 9:27 pm Reply
  • Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist

    Hi MamaAnt, you can also use lamb liver or buffalo liver and turkey, lamb, or buffalo stock as well. I know a lady that has the same issue with her infant and has been using lamb broth and lamb liver with great success.

    September 17th, 2010 1:07 pm Reply
    • mamajo

      how about pork broth? the only organic bones that i can source around me is pork bones…

      April 11th, 2015 8:18 am Reply
      • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

        If the pork is very clean and pasture raised, then that’s ok. Do NOT use conventional pork broth/bones.

        April 11th, 2015 5:51 pm Reply
  • MamaAnt

    Hi Sarah,
    I just wanted to ask you if you knew of a formula that was not beef based. Could I substitute homegrown chicken livers? My 18 month old is allergic to "the whole cow". So that means for him, nothing beef, nothing from a cow (lactose or whey even!) period.

    He is allergic to soy as well but has been drinking almond milk. He has extreme reflux and I am having to watch everything that goes into his body at this point even. I was just wanting to change things up a bit to ensure he doesn't become allergic to the almond milk. He gets gas with rice milk but I can cook with it for him and my 4 yo who is also allergic to milk but can eat beef.

    Anyway, he is my tenth child and my most allergic one as well.

    Thanks!

    September 17th, 2010 12:47 pm Reply
    • Theresa

      Dear MamaAnt,
      I would love to talk to you! My 4th baby is showing the worst allergy symprtoms too. Would you mind if we emailed back & forth!?
      Theresa

      May 17th, 2012 6:28 pm Reply
  • Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist

    Hi Sarah Jane, you can make the liquid whey with plain organic yogurt from the store. You don't have to make it with clabbered raw milk. It is the same process as shown in my "how to make whey" video which is linked in with the whey ingredient in the above recipe.

    September 17th, 2010 11:57 am Reply
  • Sarah Jane

    Is there a substitution for the liquid whey? It is against the law to buy raw cow's milk in my state.

    September 17th, 2010 8:10 am Reply
  • Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist

    I've requested Google to block baby formula ads from Enfamilk, parentschoiceformula and planningfamily.com If you see any other stupid commercial baby formula ads, please email me the URL at thehealthyhomeeconomist AT gmail.com and I will block them too.

    September 16th, 2010 5:56 pm Reply
  • Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist

    Thank you Elizabeth .. I am so glad the videos make it seem easy. That is the ultimate purpose of me doing them, so that is a wonderful encouraging comment to me!

    September 16th, 2010 5:15 pm Reply
  • Elizabeth

    Thank you for sharing this! Making homemade formula always seemed so complicated on paper, but seeing it done is so informative! I'm going to share these with my readers on FB. (Nourishing Creations!)

    September 16th, 2010 5:11 pm Reply
  • Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist

    Sarah, you can switch back and forth between the milk based and hypoallergenic baby formulas depending on whether or not you can get access to clean, organic raw milk.

    September 16th, 2010 2:43 pm Reply
  • Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist

    Hi Sarah, yes this formula can be made ahead and frozen until ready to use much like you can freeze breastmilk.

    September 16th, 2010 2:33 pm Reply
  • Sarah

    I forgot to ask this: If our source for raw milk is not stable, could we just start with and rely on this one instead?

    September 16th, 2010 2:14 pm Reply
  • Sarah

    I am wondering if this could be made in batches for several days ahead and frozen in individual portions? I am trying to be prepared for a baby that we are hoping to adopt. I am worried that I will have some crazy days and rely on commercial formula too much if I am constantly having to prepare this formula. I have had some of my own health issues and have had to relearn to cook things in order for me to eat!

    September 16th, 2010 2:07 pm Reply
    • Valerie

      Sarah, off topic but just to let you know, you can induce lactation for adoption. I JUST DID IT!! we adopted on January 29th. Blessings to you during your adoption

      May 11th, 2012 7:40 pm Reply
      • Stephany Gatrelle

        I heard you had to take hormones to induce lactation. And that it is very difficult to do and most women don’t produce enough milk. So I was just curious if you had to take hormones. Also if you don’t mind me asking, was this your first child? I heard that it is easier with women who have given birth before as opposed to women who have never been pregnant. Just curious to hear your experience and would love to know more about it. :)

        August 27th, 2013 12:18 pm Reply

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