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Healthy Home Economist / Archives / Sacred Foods / Stock vs Broth – Are You Confused?

Stock vs Broth – Are You Confused?

by Kim Schuette, CN, Certified GAPS Practitioner / Affiliate Links ✔

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  • Stock vs Broth: Start with Meat Stock When Healing The Gut
  • Stock or Broth: When to Introduce
  • Fish Meat Stock
  • Chicken, Pheasant or Turkey Meat Stock
  • Beef or Lamb Meat Stock
  • Bone Broth (Bone Stock) Recipes

stock vs brothFrench chefs have a term fonds de cuisine, which translates to “the foundation and working capital of the kitchen.” Bone and meat stock provide just that, the foundation of both the kitchen and ultimately one’s physical health. Two of the most common questions that individuals embarking upon the GAPS Diet have is, “Is bone broth really that good for you?” and “Do I use stock vs broth?” What is the difference between these two anyway and is one better for gut healing than the other?

To add to the confusion, these two words are often used interchangeably by the most educated of chefs. However, for purposes of the GAPS Diet, a temporary diet to heal/seal the gut wall and resolve autoimmune issues, Natasha Campbell-McBride MD uses the terms “meat stock” and “bone stock”. In this article, I will use “stock” when referencing meat stock and “broth” for bone stock.

Stock vs Broth: Start with Meat Stock When Healing The Gut

Stock is used in the beginning stages of the GAPS Diet, especially during the Introduction Diet where the primary focus is in healing the gut. Broth is ideal for consuming once gut healing has taken place. The significant difference is that the stock (meat stock) is not cooked as long as broth (bone stock).

Stock is especially rich in gelatin and free amino acids, like proline and glycine. These amino acids along with the gelatinous protein from the meat and connective tissue are particularly beneficial in healing and strengthening connective tissue. These nutrients are pulled out of the meat and connective tissue during the first several hours of cooking meaty fish, poultry, beef and lamb. The larger the bones, the longer the cooking time.

In Gut and Psychology Syndrome, Dr. Campbell-McBride explains how to prepare stock (meat stock) to be used during the early stages of the GAPS Diet. Her recipe can also be found at the end of this article.

Stock prepared in this way supports good digestion, as well as promotes proper secretion of hydrochloric acid, which is needed for breaking down proteins in the stomach. Lack of adequate hydrochloric acid can lead to a myriad of symptoms including acid reflux, skin disorders, anemia, osteoporosis, rheumatoid arthritis, vitiligo, asthma, food allergies and more. Gelatin, a major component of meat stock, also assists in the proper digestion of proteins ensuring optimal growth in infants and children. Gelatin improves the integrity of collagen, which is reflected in the improved appearance of the skin as well as in the lessening of digestive tract inflammation.

Additionally, gelatin enhances the digestibility of grains and legumes cooked in it. Both grains and legumes are eliminated in the beginning of the GAPS Diet, with grains avoided completely until one is ready to transition off the GAPS Diet. Once gut healing is complete and the digestive tract function is restored, properly prepared grains and legumes will be best enjoyed prepared using meat stock or bone broth.

Stock or Broth: When to Introduce

Bone stock or broth is introduced after the Introduction Diet as gut healing has advanced. Some with longstanding gut issues find that if they introduce broth (bone stock) early prior to the sealing of the gut, they have reactions to the free glutamates that result from the longer cooked gelatin.  Those who are sensitive to MSG will generally be sensitive to these free glutamates until their guts are healed.

The timing on when a GAPS person is ready to progress from meat stock to bone broth is individual. Those children who are autistic or ADD/ADHD and who are suffering from seizures or tics are among the people who should avoid free glutamates until their guts are healed. Free glutamates include not only MSG but glutamine and glutamic acid. These are excitoxins and can have a damaging effect on neurons. This is why I do not recommend using nutritional formulas containing glutamine in cases of the above mentioned conditions as well as Crohn’s or Leaky Gut Syndrome. Excitotoxins encourage inflammation in the gut and brain, the exact situation we are trying to heal.

Uncomfortable die-off reactions, as well as symptoms of nervous system agitation, are signs that your digestive tract is best served staying with the meat stock. Die off reactions can include diarrhea, vomiting, nausea, constipation and skin eruptions or rashes. Making the transition gradually from stock (meat stock) to broth (bone stock) is advisable. Cooking broth at a very low temperature (slow simmer) will minimize the formation of free glutamates.

Excellent broth (bone stock) recipes can be found in Sally Fallon Morell’s Nourishing Traditions Cookbook. This timeless cookbook should be in every kitchen. Broth is an invaluable addition to the diet of young children and all who desire optimal health. Broth is rich in all the minerals necessary to build strong teeth and bones. Broth serves as an excellent replacement for milk in the diet of those who are lactose intolerant.

However, in most cases we find that once the gut is healed, raw milk is well digested. Regardless, once homemade broth is introduced, it will be a welcomed staple to your diet.  Both stock and broth can be made from the same bones. It is simple to begin your stock and after cooking for several hours, remove the carcass for deboning. Reserve the meat for eating and then return the bones to the pot with fresh water. Continue cooking for 6 to 48 hours, depending upon the type of bones. Stock and broth can be stored in the refrigerator for several days with the layer of fat on top to prevent oxidation or frozen in the freezer for several months. Unused stock or broth in the refrigerator may be reheated, cooled and returned to the refrigerator for several more days before consuming.

Fish Meat Stock

Ingredients

2 medium non-oily fish, such as sole or snapper
4 or more quarts of purified water
2 tablespoons raw apple cider vinegar made at home or purchased from the store (glass only)
Assortment of vegetables, as desired

  • 1-2 medium yellow onions
  • 2-4 carrots
  • 3-4 celery stalks

Bouquet garni (tie together using cooking twine)

  • Fresh bay leaf
  • Fresh thyme, rosemary, sage

Celtic Sea Salt, 1-2 teaspoons, to be added in the last 10 minutes of cooking
Parsley, to be added in the last 10 minutes of cooking

Instructions

Rinse fish in purified water. Remove meat from the fish and reserve for cooking. Place bones, fins, tails, skin and heads in the pot. Add remaining ingredients. Fill pot with purified water. Allow the pot and its contents to stand for 30 minutes, giving the raw apple cider vinegar time to draw minerals out of the bones. Bring to a boil. Reduce the heat to a simmer and cook for 1 to 1 ½ hours.

Add parsley and salt during the last 10 minutes of cooking. Remove the fish bones and other large parts. Strain the stock. Set aside remaining ingredients for preparing fish broth (fish bone stock).

Chicken, Pheasant or Turkey Meat Stock

Ingredients

1 whole chicken, pheasant or turkey
2-4 poultry feet, optional
1-2 chicken, pheasant or turkey heads, optional
4 or more quarts of purified water
2 tablespoons raw apple cider vinegar homemade or purchased from the store (glass only)
Assortment of vegetables, as desired

  • 1-2 medium yellow onions
  • 2-4 carrots
  • 3-4 celery stalks

Bouquet garni (tie together using cooking twine)

  • Fresh bay leaf
  • Fresh thyme, rosemary, sage

Celtic sea salt, 1-2 teaspoons, to be added in the last 10 minutes of cooking
Parsley, to be added in the last 10 minutes of cooking

Instructions

Rinse chicken, feet and heads in purified water. Cut whole chicken in half down the middle lengthwise. Place these in the pot. Add remaining ingredients. Fill pot with purified water. Allow the pot and its contents to stand for 30 minutes, giving the raw apple cider vinegar time to draw minerals out of the bones. Bring to a boil. Reduce the heat to a simmer and cook for 1 ½ to 2 hours.

Add parsley and salt during the last 10 minutes of cooking. Remove the chicken and other large parts. Debone and reserve the meat for eating. It will be delicious. Strain the stock. Set aside remaining ingredients for preparing chicken bone broth (chicken bone stock).

Beef or Lamb Meat Stock

Ingredients

4-5 pounds of bone marrow and knuckle bones
3 pounds of meaty ribs or neck bones
1 calf’s foot, if available, cut into pieces (optional)
4 or more quarts of purified water
2 teaspoons Celtic sea salt
4 ounces raw homemade apple cider vinegar or purchased from the store (glass only)
Assortment of vegetables, as desired

  • 1-2 medium yellow onions
  • 2-4 carrots
  • 3-4 celery stalks

1 teaspoon dried peppercorns, crushed
Bouquet garni (tie together using cooking twine)

  • Fresh bay leaf
  • Fresh thyme, rosemary, sage

Parsley, to be added in the last 10 minutes of cooking

Instructions

Place the bones, meat and joints into a large pot. You may roast the meaty bones in a pan in an oven at 350 degrees Fahrenheit. You may roast the meaty bones in a roasting pan until well browned, for extra flavor. Place these in the pot. Add remaining ingredients. Fill pot with purified water. Allow the pot and its contents to stand for 60 minutes, giving the raw apple cider vinegar time to draw minerals out of the bones. Bring to a boil. Reduce the heat to a simmer and cook for 3 to 4 hours.

Add parsley during the last 10 minutes of cooking. Remove the beef and other large parts. Debone and reserve the meat for eating. It will be delicious. Strain the stock. Set aside remaining ingredients for preparing beef or lamb bone broth.  Additional ingredients to consider for variety would be garlic, ginger and lemon rind, to name a few. Avoid adding starchy vegetables to your stock.

Bone Broth (Bone Stock) Recipes

To make bone stock (broth) you may follow the above recipes and after deboning, add additional purified water and continue cooking according to these recommendations:

  • Fish Bone Broth – simmer for 4 hours.
  • Chicken, Pheasant or Turkey Bone Broth – simmer for 12 to 24 hours.
  • Beef or Lamb Bone Broth – simmer for 36 to 48 hours.

Bon appetit!

 

More Information

Bone Broth and MSG: What You Need to Know

Healthy and Easy Bouillon Cubes Recipe

Minerals in Bone Broth (what the research REALLY says)

Lead in Bone Broth?

My Youtube playlist on all aspects of making bone broth

How to Make Turkey Stock

The Best Bone Broth

How to Make Duck Stock

How to Make Beef and Chicken Stock

How to Make Shrimp Stock

5 Reasons Why Your Stock Won’t Gel

The Perfect Simmer on Your Bone Broth

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Kim Schuette, CN, Certified GAPS Practitioner

Kim Schuette CN was in private practice in the field of nutrition since 1999. She earned her certification as a Certified Nutritionist in 2002 and established Biodynamic Wellness. As her referral base grew, she began growing her practice by mentoring other nutritionists to develop a strong coherent team committed to supporting families in their many health challenges. Kim utilizes the dietary principles taught by Weston A. Price, D.D.S. along with real food-based nutritional therapies and biotherapeutic drainage therapy to support gut and digestive disorders, male and female hormonal imbalances, ADD/ADHD challenges and autoimmunity.
Kim introduced the GAPS Diet to clients in 2006 and in 2011 became a Certified GAPS™ Practitioner under the guidance of Dr. Natasha Campbell-McBride. She incorporated blood chemistry, salivary hormone testing and hair mineral analysis when needed. Kim taught numerous seminars on topics ranging from mindful conception and female hormonal concerns to children’s health, healing with the GAPS Diet and transitioning to a whole foods diet. Kim received the Activist Award from the Weston A. Price Foundation in 2012 for her work in children’s nutrition and preconception nutrition. She served on the Board of Directors of the Weston A. Price Foundation, as well as the San Diego Chapter co-leader of the Weston A. Price Foundation.

www.biodynamicwellness.com/

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  1. Angie

    Oct 9, 2012 at 10:39 am

    Quick question:
    Once you’ve made a great gelled stock/broth, do you kill any nutrients or damage the gelatin if reheated to a boil when using in soups or other recipes?

    Reply
  2. Rachel

    Oct 9, 2012 at 7:35 am

    Hello ladies and thanks so much to Sarah for all the interesting articles and videos..

    I have been making stock/broth after learning it from Sarah. My most recent broth gelled even though I had cooked it on high for 10 hours (then low for another 10) using the crockpot. The bones were frozen as well when I threw them into the pot. I think the person who commented that too much water will dilute the broth and hence not gel is right as far as my experience with broths go. The water has to just cover the bones.

    I am Asian of Chinese descent and we always have soup for our meals, mostly dinner when everyone in the family gathers around. Our soups are simmered for about 2-4 hours if we’re cooking it on the stove but if we use a crockpot, we start early in the morning and have this delicious soup brewing when we have our dinner. If you would like to try different kinds of soup, please check out Chinese recipe books or search for them online. You’ll be amazed at the variety!

    Reply
  3. Julie

    Oct 9, 2012 at 3:20 am

    Thanks, a great article. I too was ignorant of the difference between stock and broth. I will try cooking for a shorter period of time and maybe my youngest will enjoy it more and show more signs of healing.

    Reply
  4. DrElizabeth Hesse Sheehan via Facebook

    Oct 9, 2012 at 1:56 am

    Fabulous..a great reference for my patients!

    Reply
  5. Bree Wilson

    Oct 8, 2012 at 11:38 pm

    Just starting making my own chicken bone broth. It seems to have a bit of a bitter taste. Any help with that? Also does it matter what kind of veggies I cook in with it?

    Reply
  6. Susan

    Oct 8, 2012 at 4:51 pm

    I’m so frustrated and confused! I have NEVER read about the difference between the two broths before and have done the intro diet of GAPS/SCD for myself and my kids. My kids hated the bone broth and felt worse after eating it so I only had them eat it for 1 1/2 weeks. I thought they were just suffering from die off so kept going with it. They were also taking L-glutamine powder for leaky gut which we thought would be helping heal the gut, not make it worse! The ND suggested taking it so they have been on it for over a year. My daughter has since suffered from many stomach/digestion issues since doing these diets and supplements. Now she is suffering from severe chronic nausea since Spring. Many tests have been done but can’t find anything wrong with her. My son suffers from a tic where he flexes his arm and leg muscles. Could all of this have been from the L-glutamine irritating them?? I have always thought the bone broth, simmered for at least 24 hours was what had the healing properties for leaky gut. I really wish these two types of broth were stressed more heavily in the GAPS and SCD books and websites.

    Reply
    • Traci

      Oct 8, 2012 at 11:00 pm

      I know i’ve been confused also. I have been making broth and drinking it for a few months now thinking i was healing my gut but I guess not! I will now cook it a shorter time and use the ACV and give it a go…see what happens! I almost bought some L-glutamine also. glad I didn’t now… there is so much confusion that some days I just want to give up..ugh

    • Christine Jurew

      Feb 2, 2013 at 11:28 am

      Hi Susan-

      I see that your post is some months old but I thought I’d comment anyways since I have similar issues. The L-glutamine could absolutely be making them worse. Often glutamate levels need to be brought down and balanced with gaba. I’m doing this, while using other methods to heal my gut. Perhaps one day when my levels are balanced I’ll be able to enjoy homemade broths. Issues with the broth can be discouraging, but they’re clues as to what’s going on. My reaction to GAPS was a step closer to finding answers that are bringing everything together for me.

      I’m not sure what your children’s health issues are but if they’re experiencing leaky gut and a reaction to excitotoxins I believe that you could benefit from some of the resources I frequent.

      http://www.dramyyasko.com/wp-content/files_flutter/1279663001Neuroprovokers8.pdf

      http://www.heartfixer.com/AMRI-Nutrigenomics.htm#Methyl Cycle Genomic Analysis and Supplementation

      I also find support for the MANY questions I have on forums and facebook pages such as http://www.facebook.com/mthfrsupport and http://www.ch3nutrigenomics.com/

    • Christine Jurew

      Feb 2, 2013 at 11:31 am

      (Sorry left the reply under the wrong post, so I’m re-posting)

      Hi Susan-

      I see that your post is some months old but I thought I’d comment anyways since I have similar issues. The L-glutamine could absolutely be making them worse. Often glutamate levels need to be brought down and balanced with gaba. I’m doing this, while using other methods to heal my gut. Perhaps one day when my levels are balanced I’ll be able to enjoy homemade broths. Issues with the broth can be discouraging, but they’re clues as to what’s going on. My reaction to GAPS was a step closer to finding answers that are bringing everything together for me.

      I’m not sure what your children’s health issues are but if they’re experiencing leaky gut and a reaction to excitotoxins I believe that you could benefit from some of the resources I frequent.

      http://www.dramyyasko.com/wp-content/files_flutter/1279663001Neuroprovokers8.pdf

      http://www.heartfixer.com/AMRI-Nutrigenomics.htm#Methyl Cycle Genomic Analysis and Supplementation

      I also find support for the MANY questions I have on forums and facebook pages such as http://www.facebook.com/mthfrsupport and http://www.ch3nutrigenomics.com/

  7. Lisa Douglas

    Oct 8, 2012 at 2:22 pm

    If I’m out of ACV, could I use kombucha in its place? Or lemon juice? Is it the acid level that is important?

    Reply
    • Maggie

      Oct 8, 2012 at 4:24 pm

      The reason for using an acidic liquid is to help pull minerals out of the bones. Without adding an acid, you might lose some of the benefits of the broth in terms of the mineral content.

      I personally wouldn’t suggest using Kombucha in place of vinegar just because I wouldn’t expect it to taste good. Also, you are not limited to ACV…any type of vinegar – rice, wine, or balsamic – can be used. If you have absolutely no vinegar, lemon juice will be a tastier substitute than Kombucha. However, if you do try Kombucha, you might be able to “mask” any odd flavor by using garlic, onions and ginger, etc.

  8. Martina Jones via Facebook

    Oct 8, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    This is very helpful!

    Reply
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