Why Flax Oil is Not a Good Substitute for Cod Liver Oil

by Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist April 27, 2011

Brown Flax SeedsLast week, someone left a comment on my Cod Liver Oil 101 video which said,  “Flax oil is better for you – cod liver oil can raise your cholesterol level!”

This comment disturbed me as it is this kind of thinking that is stealing people’s health!

First, let me say that I am not against flax oil.  Flax oil is a wonderfully healthy oil that is extremely high in omega 3 fats.   The Scandinavian traditional diet even lauds flax oil as a health food.

Use of flax oil in small amounts in homemade salad dressings is a wonderful way to facilitate the proper omega 3/omega 6 fatty acid balance in your diet -  a balance that should be in the 1:1 – 1:4 range, not the 1:20 – 1:50 range of most Americans!

Getting this fatty acid balance in the correct range is critical to keeping inflammation at low levels in the body.  Overconsumption of omega 6 oils as is typical in the grain heavy Western diet rapidly causes inflammation with a sometimes unpredictable mix of symptoms based on one’s genetic predisposition.

Flax oil has historically had problems with rancidity as it is such a delicate oil that should always be kept refrigerated and never, ever heated.

Modern refrigeration during shipping has eliminated much of the rancidity problems, nonetheless, care must be taken to consume flax oil only in small amounts.  Overconsumption of polyunsaturated oils even if primarily omega 3 can lead to inflammation just the same as an imbalance in the ratio between omega 3/omega 6 fats that are consumed in the diet.

Despite the fact that flax oil contains a healthy form of omega 3 fats, it is still not a good substitute for cod liver oil and here’s why:

Flax Oil Does Not Contain Fat Soluble Vitamins

Cod liver oil, particularly the fermented kind, contains an ample amount of the fat soluble vitamins A and D and even some K.   Traditional cultures studied by Dr. Weston A. Price consumed these fat soluble activators at a rate 10X greater than Americans living in the 1920′s and 1930′s!

A daily dose of cod liver oil is an important insurance policy for maintaining health as these fat soluble vitamins supercharge mineral absorption in the diet and work synergistically to maintain immune function at a high level.

Flax oil contains no fat soluble vitamins A,D, and K because it is derived from a plant food.  While some plant foods contain vitamin K1, vitamins A and D are not found in any plant foods and must be obtained from animal foods.  Also note that beta carotene is not true vitamin A as is frequently and erroneously claimed.

The Omega 3 Fats in Flax Oil Are Different

The omega 3 fats in cod liver oil are primarily in the form of DHA and EPA which are in a ready usable form for the brain and neurological system.   The omega 3 fats in flax oil are in the form of alphalinolenic acid (ALA), which must be converted by the body into EPA and DHA.  If you have any digestive imbalance issues, which most Westerners do to some degree, the conversion of ALA into the critical EPA and DHA is unknown and more than likely insufficient to maintain health.

Therefore, it is risky to take flax oil and assume that the conversion of ALA into EPA and DHA is sufficient for your body’s needs.  It is better to consume a high quality cod liver oil to obtain EPA and DHA directly with no guesswork and finger crossing involved.

Natural Cholesterol is Not Bad for You

The comment regarding cod liver oil raising cholesterol levels was particularly concerning to me.

The natural cholesterol in animal fats like cod liver oil is very important for tissue repair and brain function which explains why cholesterol levels rise slowly as we age.   It is important to note that women with the highest cholesterol live the longest!  This is probably because natural cholesterol provides the precursors necessary for the production of natural steroids in the body that protect against heart disease and cancer.

So, what cholesterol is bad for us?

It is the oxidized or rancid cholesterol found in processed foods that should be avoided. Consuming oxidized cholesterol raises the risk of inflammatory conditions like heart disease, cancer, and diabetes.

This is why the cholesterol in raw milk is healthy but the oxidized cholesterol in pasteurized skim milk is bad for you (added in the form of highly processed milk powder which adds body)

If grasping the difference between good cholesterol and bad cholesterol in your diet seems difficult at first, consider that coronary heart disease prior to 1920 was extremely rare in America, but during that same period, Americans consumed butter and cream with abandon!

It is only since the rise of processed foods and factory fats that gained momentum after World War II that heart disease, cancer and diabetes rates began to skyrocket.

Therefore, enjoy a tablespoon of flax oil added to each cup or so of  homemade salad dressing, but never consider it an adequate substitute for your high vitamin, fermented cod liver oil!

 

Sarah, TheHealthyHomeEconomist.com

Sources:  Nourishing Traditions Cookbook, p. 20.

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Comments (127)

  1. Blanche Bonnette Moore via Facebook April 18, 2014 at 12:06 pm

    flax causes a flare up of my diverticulosis. I have to stick with cod liver oil, and thankful to learn about GREEN PASTURES FERMENTED… thank you Louisa Enright!

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  2. Cod liver oil quality can vary. I use Green Pastures FERMENTED cod liver oil as it is the only one remaining that is traditionally made. I think some versions are called Blue Ice. The others heat treated and add back man-made vitamins. The oil is filtered to remove impurities–so no heavy metals. The oil has been repeatedly tested for purity and always passed. Here’s an article from The Weston A. Price foundation discussing this matter: http://www.westonaprice.org/cod-liver-oil/2008-dec-clo-update. Cod liver oil is a nutrient dense food. Flax seed oil is useful, but isn’t in the same class as cod liver oil. Plus, you have to consider its load of Omega 6′s… The capsules are waaaay more expensive than the oil itself–and it’s pricy, but goes a long way. I use a bottle about every three months. So, quarterly…

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  3. Mark Dyas via Facebook April 18, 2014 at 9:04 am

    I’m convinced that many people read blogs/posts to the point where they disagree then most stop reading and the odd few leave negative comments….

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  4. Rainbow Miller via Facebook April 18, 2014 at 5:57 am

    I was wondering what people are doing or thinking when it comes to CLO, with the whole japan radiation leak.. If tuna is so highly contaminated (from the pacific) are you not worried about CLO? We used to take it, but I stopped when I found out I was pregnant. After reading so much about radiation levels in fish migrations to and from, CLO concerns me…

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  5. Keith Black via Facebook April 18, 2014 at 1:35 am

    Doesn’t Cod come from the ocean that is contaminated with mercury, toxins, and radiation? Flax seed oil has been recommended for years to fight cancer and is free of the contaminates that plagues stuff from the ocean. I think that many others would disagree that cod liver oil would be better than flax seed oil.

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  6. I have been confused about whether or not flax seed can be heating. When I did a search it said for a title “Why flax oil is not a good substitute for CLO. Under it says “Why shouldn’t flax seed be heated?” but I have not found that anywhere on that article. I understand your article is about flax oil but can you clarify with flax seed if after soaking –its it ok to heat for example in oatmeal? or anyway I all. I am sorry if I couldn’t get that from the article. Thanks for your time.

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  7. If someone is allergic to fish oil, particularly Green Pastures Fermented Cold Liver OIl :-(, then what would you recommend for a good substitute for that? I used to take fish oil and love it, but decided to try Green Pastures. After a couple of weeks I began to experience all over muscle spasms, incredibly painful muscle aches and stiffness that over a couple of months become debilitating.Since it was gradual I didn’t realize what caused it at first. Once I discovered it was the oil my symptoms went away, but now I find I have become sensitized to my old oil pills, and any others I have tried. I am miserable without the supplements, but have read negative information about any substitutions. Any advice?

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  8. Angelique Raphael via Facebook November 17, 2012 at 4:13 pm

    i don’t know who/what to believe anymore -about the cod liver oil, the article said avoid, should i stop taking it? sigh!

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  9. The fermented oil is different. The price for one. And the second it’s hard to get. I have to buy online and they import it from America. You can get Cod Liver oil at any supermarket or health food store but its had no fermenting done. It’s sort of the way fish oils have gone. No goodness there at all and processed cheaply because we want pills and not food. :-/

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  10. I have tried the fermented cod liver oil that you recommended, but every time I take it along with the butter oil, it makes my scalp itch and psoriasis-like. What is going on? I have been implementing the GAPS/Paleo diet w/ lots of fats, including raw milk and grain-free.

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  11. Roseann Ligenza-Fisher via Facebook November 17, 2012 at 1:28 pm

    Jeffrey…Please correct me if I’m wrong, but I would think the fermentation process would lengthen the life of the oil. I can see your concern if it were regular cod liver oil, but I think the fermented oil is different.

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  12. I haven’t read the article before commenting, but I know that animal fats are very important in transmission and repair. We need pure animal fats. I also know that fish oils in the capsules can go rancid because of the process. However, all oils tend to go rancid, but I hear fish oils in the liquid is a better deal (it all depends on the age and process).

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  13. Roseann Ligenza-Fisher via Facebook November 17, 2012 at 1:06 pm

    I’m all in favor for the Cod Liver Oil. As a cancer survivor, I need to get as much vitamin D as possible to build my immune system. It strikes me funny that while we’re discussing Flax and Cod Liver oils, everyone else is concerned about no more Twinkies..LOL

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  14. Clara Bullick via Facebook November 17, 2012 at 12:48 pm

    I’d like to hear more about chia too! I’m Taking lots of cod liver oil, especially while pregnant, but I’ve also been consuming about 1 tbsp of chia per day, now I’m worried about the phytoestrogens affecting the baby boy I’m growing.

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  15. Allie Van Wagoner via Facebook November 17, 2012 at 12:14 pm

    I have to ask because I read it online and my local health store sells it, how about hemp seed? I read it has the preferred ratios of omega fatty oils. Is this true?

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  16. Elizabeth Otte Stowers via Facebook November 17, 2012 at 11:32 am

    I love Ray Peat! :) We’re trying to avoid as many unsaturated fats as possible…we’re only using coconut oil, butter and olive oil in teeny tiny amounts. I even put a stop to our fish oil supplementation (Carlson’s fish oil). Taking coconut oil in the morning (only on a TBS per day so far + gelatin in a cup of hot chicken broth) has started to reverse some ill health symptoms I’ve had, without doing anything else to change my diet or habits.

    thehealthyhomeeconomist, how does cod liver oil compare to fish oil? Can you get the same benefits from eating liver?

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  17. To offer the other side of the argument — the German biologist Johanna Budwig developed a protocol to treat cancer based on flax oil and flax seed in the mid 20th century and had a lot of success with even late stage cancer. Look up the “Budwig cream”. Studies on rodents show the lignans in flaxseed stop and sometimes reverse cancer. I’m sorry to hear flax receiving such bad press.

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  19. There was a facebook post today from Raising Natural Kids, on the benefits and uses for flax. It suggests adding it to baked goods and cooked things like meatloaf, or on top of oatmeal, along with adding it to cold items like yogurt.
    Does the “no heat” part mean even topping on hot/warm foods, and does it extend to all forms of flax like meal?

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  22. Hi Sarah, I truly appreciate your wealth of information on health issues and am grateful you choose to share it with the rest of us. Although this is a post on cod liver oil, I was wondering if you have any recommendations for a multivitamin for children. My sons are 3 years and 11 months old, and the current one I have uses a soy derivative which concerns me. I appreciate any information you have. Thanks again for all the posts…keep them coming!!!

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  23. I noticed someone stated Sarah commented on crill oil… where can I find this on the site? And Sarah, as Grant mentioned sprouting . . . do you sprout? Wondering if things like Quinoa should be sprouted or if cooking breaks down the elements he mentions. Quinoa is truly a seed so his comments made me wonder . . .

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  24. By and large, I agree with the points of this article and subsequent comments. However, have we forgotten that flax seed is difficult to digest and its nutrients poorly absorbed…unless it is sprouted?
    Like other seeds and nuts, flax seed has natural enzyme inhibitors to prevent digestion. This means the seed can be eaten, pass the the body, and still grow into a plant. This is nature’s way of ensuring animals, birds, and humans distribute seeds. For example, when a person consumes whole flax seed in bakery products like bread, there is very little nutritional benefit.

    The way to overcome the problem created by enzyme inhibitors is to sprout the seed. As most of the readers of this blog know, sprouting seed (like flaxseed) biologically activates the seed. The plant proteins, essential fatty acids, starches, and vitamins are now bio-available for human digestion resulting in better nutrient absorption.
    Sprouting also increases the seeds vitamin content which naturally stabilizes the essential fatty acids. Because of the increased level of bio-availability, these essential oils are absorbed more efficiently.
    I might add that, yes, flaxseed in itself, it not a very nutrient dense food to begin with. Without sprouting, you can imagine that your are not getting much out of flaxseed. But then again, this is common among seeds.

    I am a consumer of all three: sprouted flax seed, Blue Ice Fermented Cod Liver Oil, and Blue Ice Butter Oil/Fermented Cod Liver Oil Blend. They all have their place in the human diet and health.

    I hopes that this article can be amended to include the main ideas of my comment. I suspect a lot of people do not read through the comments and just read the article. I care not for credit, however, I care more about contributing to truth. That very concept, truth, is why I am an avid reader of this blog. Thank you Sarah for this blog…

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  25. I’ve been reading a little about hemp oil. How does this compare to cod liver oil. When my husband began regularly taking cod liver oil/butter oil capsules from Green Pastures, he started experiencing a burning sensation when he peed. Not sure how to counter these effects. For now, he refuses to try anything else.

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    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
      Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist April 28, 2011 at 9:02 am

      Hi Leslie, hemp oil is a plant based oil and as a result has the same downsides as flax oil when compared to cod liver oil. It is not a good substitute by a long shot.

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      Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist April 28, 2011 at 9:03 am

      Some people do better on the fermented skate oil, by the way. It is similar in nutrient profile to the fermented cod liver oil but seems to agree with some people better.

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  26. I’m a total convert. We’ve been drinking raw milk for years, along with local pastured beef, pork and chicken. And eggs, organic veggies, etc. And fermented CLO (though I do have to mix it with pomegranate juice). I do it because I think its the right thing do BUT my question is about the statistics, how do we know the rates of coronary heart disease prior to the 20s? I just have a really hard time with the statistical comparisons to dates with which we don’t really have reliable data.

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    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

      Hi Amy, fish oil has no fat soluble vitamins (A, D, K) in it. It is also highly processed which is not a good choice compared to the fermented cod liver oil I mention in the post which is purified with no heat and hence retains all nutrients. Fish oil is a delicate oil like flax oil and should never be heated as they do in the processing of it. Therefore, fermented cod liver oil is a much superior choice to eliminate the problem of rancidity.

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  27. Regarding traditional doctors and Price: Don’t most people with ailments want a quick fix and so that is what the doctors give them? A prescription rather than wisdom on how to treat their bodies? Eating and living healthfully isn’t always easy and if you are trying to repair past mistakes, it can take time.

    We are all responsible for our own health. Most people forget that.

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  28. Thanks for this! I just had a friend ask me today for a recommendation on CLO, and I recommended the fermented cod liver oil/butter oil blend, which my whole family takes daily. I’m going to forward her this link as well!

    I saw a statistic recently that less than 6% of traditional doctors have any training in nutrition. Very sad. All you need to do is start eating traditional, whole foods to feel and see the difference for yourself. It’s amazing!

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  29. Thank you for clarifying this rampant misconception. As a WAPF chapter leader, I get asked this question about flax vs. cod liver oil regularly. Now, I have an online post to share with them detailing why.

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  30. Kate @ Modern Alternative Mama April 27, 2011 at 3:55 pm

    I used to take flax oil mixed into smoothies — also not a bad way to take it. But it didn’t really “do” anything for me, so I haven’t taken it in a couple years. Now, FLCO/BO, I have to have!! Love that stuff. So important.

    It’s notable my husband’s cholesterol is extremely low…despite that he is constantly eating butter, grass-fed beef, raw milk, and so on. He eats a ridiculous amount of this stuff! As do I, but I don’t know my cholesterol levels. I assume “normal.” Our weight also stabilized when we began eating traditionally. I know I’m preaching to the choir here, but seriously, it’s made a huge difference for us!
    Kate @ Modern Alternative Mama\’s last post: Healthy Pregnancy Series- Water Birth

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  31. Raluca Schachter April 27, 2011 at 3:15 pm

    @ April – flax seed oil is not a saturated fat and so very unstable and damaged by heat, generating a toxic, rancid, denaturated oil. W. Price’s work (like many other studies within the natural / alternative medicine field) will never be embraced by “doctors” (at least not by most of them) since that will be the end of the conventional medicine focused on disease, rather than on building health and the end of BigPharma, resulting in a drug free, healthier world :)…

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  32. Speaking of Cod Liver Oil supplements, I just got an email from radiant life and their alternative to the Fermented cod liver oil (if you can’t do the price, taste or texture) is

    “Choose our new Super Nutrient Trio. Consisting of our Radiant Life Desiccated Beef Liver, Radiant Life Krill Oil and an all natural, live source Vitamin D3 serum, our just introduced Super Nutrient Trio is an outstanding and synergistic combination of our most essential nutrients. Our beef liver, nature’s most nutrient dense food, is available in both powder and capsule form, is a powerhouse in terms of Vitamin A, all of the B vitamins and a great source of essential minerals. Likewise, our sustainably sourced krill oil provides an unmatched source of EPA and DHA in phospholipid form coupled with a powerful antioxidant known as astaxanthin. The third leg of this Trio consists of the most concentrated, live source of Vitamin D3 with 2000 IU is a single drop! Overall, our Radiant Life Super Nutrient Trio provides the perfect, all natural combination of wholesome nutrients available on the planet. ”

    I know you had a post about Dr. Mercola’s Krill oil, but was interested in your thoughts on Radiant Life’s new product. (BTW, i probably won’t be replacing my Fermented cod liver oil, but thinking of this for the hubby)

    Thanks

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    • I would love to know more about an alternative to cod liver oil. My son had an allergic reaction to the fermented cod liver oil.

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    • This is not to say Krill Oil isn’t good, but when I tried it, it made my legs numb from the butt down. I already have a slight neuropathy in my feet so this was not good. I experimented several times, and it does the numbing thing every time. So does Tylenol.

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  33. Something I try to be mindful of are foods which are very high in estrogenic properties. Even natural foods like flax seeds and flax oil, like many other foods (soy, sesame seeds, and various beans), are very high in estrogen and can make certain health issues worse such as fibroids or fibrocystic breast conditions. Even if you have a traditional, balanced diet, even moderate consumption of these foods could be problematic anyway because of all the xeno-estrogens in our environment from plastics and other chemicals, which are increasingly pervasive in the world due to industry use and production of new chemicals.

    Here’s a link with information about phyto-estrogens in our diets.

    http://www.healthilluminationproducts.com/page/1505749

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    • What? Is this really true? Like I said earlier, I make flax seed bread for our family usually several times a week, and I have a uterine fibroid. I have never heard of these things before. I don’t know whether to believe them or not. Are there any other articles or studies out there that talk about this? If we can’t trust our doctors, how can we trust the people out there selling supplements? Everybody’s selling something… I’m going to go back to the “If it’s been eaten for centuries, it’s not going to kill me now.” Hasn’t flax been eaten for a long time?

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      • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

        Hi April, yes flax has been eaten for a long time and it is a wonderful food. The problem is that it has never been consumed with all the psuedo estrogen mimicking chemicals in the environment like we have today. For folks that are very sensitive and estrogen dominant, Raine makes a good point – probably best to skip the flax. It is not necessary in the diet except as a plant based omega 3 oil which can easily be obtained elsewhere in better form such as cod liver oil.

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      • Hi April. Just thought I’d share ~ I used to have really bad endometriosis and have had a couple of uterine cysts. I have them pretty well managed (though not completely healed yet) through diet, supplements, and self-massage, but whenever I eat flaxseeds in any quantity, I have a major flare-up and pain. Filtered expeller-pressed flaxseed oil doesn’t effect me that way, it’s just the whole flax seeds – it may be the lignans. If it’s something you’ve been eating for a while, you may want to try cutting it out for a while and see how you feel. Take care!
        Amber

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        • I think I might try taking a break from the flax seed bread for a while then, especially since I have a uterine fibroid and it frequently hurts. I had no idea that the flax seeds might be affecting it. That means I’ll be looking for a new dependable healthy bread recipe. Anyone have any suggestions? ;)

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          • Sourdough. Sarah can help you with making your own starter, and lots of recipes.

            As to your question about the food pyramid. Never trust anything from the gov’t when it concerns your nutrition and/or your health because they don’t care about your health. If the new food pyramid were turned upside down it would work out a lot better, health-wise, with some minor tweaking, of course. Good fats and oils should be the major thing we consume daily, then meat/fish, etc. Sweetners should be least consumed. A lot of people (I’ve heard them, believe it or not) think the food pyramid is to be used from the top down (i.e., eat mostly what is at the top), others think it’s eat least of what’s at the top. I suppose it’s a matter of perception. They don’t understand it any more than the gov’t does! I don’t follow a pyramid, to be honest. But the boys in WADC have to have some sort of gimmick to try to convince the public they know something – anything – about food. They don’t.

        • I had to move completely away from flax seeds and flax oil because when I started into menopause several years ago, it kept triggering onset menstruation even after I’d gone over a year without a cycle. Lots of breakthrough bleeding (sorry for the graphics). I don’t have that trouble with FCLO. The problem I do have with FCLO is burping the fishy taste, which gags me after a while. I have had dysbiosis in the past (healed now) but I still burp it sometimes. Even the capsules don’t help. So I just take periodic breaks for a couple of days. Seems to help.

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          • Thanks for the suggestion on sourdough, which is one of my favorite breads. If I’m going to stop making the flax seed bread, I have to have another yummy one lined up to replace it, or I’m going to have a lot of sad faces at the supper table. We all really like the flax seed bread. I read the Nourishing Traditions cookbook a while back, and I seem to remember the bread chapter was distressingly scanty.

            I sure hope we don’t get fishy burps too. I wondered about that when I ordered the capsules. That would definitely be a killer for the product in our house. I know for sure my husband is not going to want us to smell of fish all the time (much less regurgitate the taste). Not that I do either, for that matter! Maybe somebody could start a business making the capsules with parsley added in too, or something. :D

          • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

            Hi D. and April, I used to make my own sourdough years ago when there weren’t any decent breads to be found at the healthfood store, but no longer do as there are so many wonderful brands to buy these days. I understand it is more expensive this way, but I spend so much time in the kitchen preparing everything from scratch that making bread (which I do not enjoy doing) is something I now buy. I save so much by preparing most of our food from scratch that the extra for a couple loaves of bread every week is not a big deal.

          • I’m not sure if you will see this, but if you do, I take mine during dinner. I will eat a few bites, take one pill, eat a few more bites, take another pill, and finish dinner or take more depending on how much you want to take. OH, I guess I should have stated that I buy the capsules. DUH. I really wish I could talk to April because like her I had been faithfully following my dr. advice to handle cholesterol and type 2 diabetes and I was getting sicker and fatter despite doing what they say. I’ve lost 50 lbs and my cholesterol is better than ever by eating butter, meat and clo. I however choose not to eat grains, potatoes, or sugar of any kind because of my situation. Not everyone has to be that extreme.

          • I have to admit being disgusted by the fishy burps as well, but won’t pay the even higher capsule price. I found that if I take my liquid FCLO right before bed chased by OJ, it works well for me. I don’t know too many people who burp in their sleep, and it’s digested by the time you wake up. ; )

  34. Why shouldn’t flax seed be heated? I frequently make a very tasty bread that has flax seed in it. Also – this is a general question, and I’m not trying to be offensive, I really want to know – if Price’s work is so informative and crucial, why isn’t it more generally embraced by mainstream doctors? In some ways, it comes across as cultish.

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      • It was an honest question she had, so let’s take it easy and help her in a calm way. Your response could make someone feel ashamed for asking these things.
        We should be encouraging honest questions. One way to do that is by being forebearing and gentle, even when we think the question is proposterous.

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    • “why isn’t it more generally embraced by mainstream doctors?”

      Your seriously asking that? Mainstream doctors are trained to treat pathology with pharmacology, and are usually ignorant about the real importance of nutrition.

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        • Your post of scolding another poster about scolding is kinda hypocritical isn’t? First off, she made a bold STATEMENT that people who follow the traditional diet come off as cultish..this wasn’t a question, it was a opinion of her own. Marina had a fine response and her own statement and opinion that doctors themselves seem like a cult. Which I would agree with her statement as my own opinion. But I’ve never trusted a human just because they went to a school created by other humans and now rule over others as “knowing best” simply because they have a piece of paper that says so. I for one like common sense. Is it common sense that we are now more diseased laden than our ancestors? Obviously the medical field is missing the problem, cancer and all sorts of horrific illnesses are on the rise. I remember back when it was rare to hear of someone having cancer, especially a child. Now I could probably name you a dozen off the top of my head. That is the truth and obviously the medicine, terrible diets and environment play a huge role. So will we continue to bury our head in the sand until we die at 65 of a preventable disease, tired wrinkled and false teeth? Will we dish out thousands of dollars to “treat” these diseases that keep coming back to haunt us or never go away? I for one see it isn’t working so I used common sense and started researching for my own health and for my family. Call it what you want, but I know I won’t regret my decisions.

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    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
      Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist April 27, 2011 at 6:18 pm

      Mainstream medicine doesn’t like Price as folks following his advice don’t need doctors or drugs much. Why would doctors and Big Pharma support an approach that would cause them to lose money? It’s always about the money .. just follow the dollar.

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      • Now, see, Sarah, that just sounds like paranoia and conspiracy theory to me. There are lot of caring doctors out there that really want to encourage their patients to better health, and they’re not all scheming, money-making evil people in the pocket of BIG PHARMACY. Not everybody’s in the choir here. I know probably most people commenting have converted to Price’s philosophy, but I’m just trying to get a handle on it all. If Price and his followers really have got it right, so to speak, but most doctors aren’t embracing it, I think the reason why would be a little more complex than, “They all just want to make money off you and don’t really give a peanut.” Now, I just ordered some of the Green Pastures cod liver oil and will give it a try. I’ve never had any before, or known anyone that takes it. It’s a whale of a lot of money, so it only gets one try for my family. We’ll see if the proof’s in the pudding. :)

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        • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

          April, its not about the sincerity of individual doctors that I’m talking about. I’m talking about the American Medical Association and Big Pharma which donates millions of dollars to medical schools which gives them the power to use that money for the research projects that they dictate. By controlling med school curriculum (if you don’t believe it, consider that doctors get next to no instruction in nutrition and alternative health methods), Big Pharma is able to create an army of doctors that know nothing except drugs and surgery which is exactly what we have today. Doctors who have no idea how to solve anything medically without drugs is EXACTLY what Big Pharma wants. Again, it’s all about the money and creating a monopoly for your product (in this case, drugs).

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          • You know, my sister said pretty much the same thing to me today about pharmaceutical companies funding medical schools. Are you saying that doctors just don’t get the information they need to properly encourage preventative care, and don’t even know they lack that information? Where is somebody supposed to get trustworthy medical care and information from then, locally, that is?

          • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

            April, you have to find an MD that has gone outside the box and learned nutrition independently and is operating kind of outside all the AMA guidelines which just reinforce the drugs/surgery approach to everything.

            Doctors that are DOs are great too as they can prescribe just like MDs but are usually more holistically minded.

            Doctors that are NDs are a good alternative as well. Ask around and you will find some awesome doctors in your community I have no doubt.

        • “There are lot of caring doctors out there that really want to encourage their patients to better health”

          Yeah, with drugs/surgery only! Most doctors know nothing about real health.

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        • April, the next time you see your primary care physician, ask him EXACTLY how much time was spent in medical school learning nutrition, when he attended. Not only will he fumble for an answer, he’ll probably say the same thing as my doctor told me – “about 8 minutes”. And even if they were to study nutrition, they would be studying what the pfarma companies and BigFood tell them is right, such as the current totally bogus USDA food pyramid. What malarkey! My doctor, seriously, thinks Weight Watchers is a healthy approach to good nutrition. Ack. Makes me want to pull my hair out, so I rarely talk food with him (in fact, I rarely SEE him).

          The problem I have with mainstream medicine practitioners doling out healthy eating advice is they just don’t understand nutrition, at least not as a trained nutritionist does, because they don’t study it in it’s purest form. Doctors won’t even tell you the honest truth about cholesterol, blood pressure readings, mammograms, or how to best help yourself if you’re diabetic – so why on earth would you depend on a doctor for nutritional advice? If you do, you’ll be heading down the wrong road which ends in a crash and burn.

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          • D, I don’t have a primary care physician. Haven’t found one since moving that wasn’t an evil, scheming, money-greedy doctor, ironically! I have had good doctors in the past, though, just not had good luck since moving. Asking about nutrition training is a good question to remember for when I do find one, though, thanks! And, out of curiosity, what’s wrong with the food pyramid? Didn’t they recently change it?

    • Can you please email me at mtuemler@att.net and let me know where one might get dehydrated salmon eggs? I have a husband who refuses to eat fish. Do these give you a fishy burp? Thank you for any help you can give.

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