State Threatens to Take Baby Over Homemade Goat Milk Formula

by Sarah Activism, Healthy Pregnancy, Baby & Child, Parent RightsComments: 169

Baby thriving on homemade goat milk formulaWarning to all parents who make healthy homemade baby formula for their children instead of feeding them toxic, GMO laced commercial formula.

DON’T tell a conventionally minded doctor about it else your baby might end up in foster care!

This is the nightmare Alorah Gellerson of Brooklin, Maine is experiencing right now because she made the mistake of telling her doctor about the homemade goat milk formula she proudly and carefully makes for her healthy, happy, three-month old son Carson.

The Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) quickly responded when the doctor reported Alorah and that’s when things got messy.

The state came in and threatened to take Carson away and put him in foster care unless Alorah followed DHHS orders to go and have the baby examined by a doctor.  Unbelievably, DHHS also mandated an overnight hospital stay and a switch back to store bought GMO commercial formula.

Despite complying with every single DHHS demand, Gellerson, who receives state benefits, is still being harassed with threats of foster care for her son.  “I hope this all goes away. It’s been so terrible and hard on us. We’re just trying to live our lives and they keep bothering us. I just want it to be all over”, she said.

Tania Allen, Gellerson’s mother added,

“It’s so frustrating. She’s a great mom. The baby has a great dad too and they love this baby very much and they would never do anything to hurt him and if we thought the formula was harming him, we would not do that.”

DHHS refused to comment and instead directed inquiries to its website for the procedures they follow, one of which is from the USDA which states that goat milk is not recommended for infants because of inadequate quantities of certain vitamins.

Jack Forbush, DO, of The Osteopathic Center for Family Medicine in Hampden, Maine disagrees with the state saying,

 “I don’t know what’s really driving it other than perhaps some different cultural belief system. I’ve got plenty of kids in my practice that have been given goat’s milk, for example, and they’re growing and developing fine.

The Weston A. Price Foundation concurs with Dr. Forbush’s assessment. Homemade formula from goat or cow milk is much better for baby than commercial formula as this chart listing the nutrients contained in goat milk formula illustrates.

State Violation of Parental Rights Becoming More Common

This is not the first time a parental judgment call regarding the health of a child has landed a parent in hot water with the State.  This type of violation of basic parental rights is becoming more and more common.

Recall the story of Scott and Jodi Ferris whose newborn was taken away in the hospital because Jodi questioned the necessity of the Hepatitis B shot. Then there was the story of Alex and Anna Nikolayev just a few months ago who had their baby forcibly removed from their home (with the entire assault captured on home video) simply because they took their baby to another hospital for a second opinion regarding their child’s heart condition. In both cases, the children were eventually returned to the parents, but not before much grief and stress were endured by the family.


Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

Sources and More Information

Brooklin Mother Says State Not Happy With Her Formula Choice

Baby’s mother in trouble with state over homemade goat’s milk formula

USDA: Infant Formula Feeding

Recipes for Homemade Baby Formula

Homemade Goats Milk Formula

WIC Threatening Unvaccinated Kids with Starvation

Comments (169)

  • Sangelia

    I’m wondering why she didn’t breastfeed her kids. Since WHO and other medical organizations say to breastfeed the kid til at least two years of age. And there are pumps one can get. Many insurances do pay for the woman to have the pump to help her express the milk from her breasts.

    December 24th, 2014 9:26 am Reply
    • anon

      lack of production

      July 30th, 2015 3:39 am Reply
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  • Spice

    I was horrified, yet not shocked to read about this the other week in another article. I am highly allergic to cows milk, and the same protein I’m allergic to can easily be found in baby formulas. When you have to remove all dairy from your diet it is interesting to learn there are milk solids in almost everything that lines the supermarket shelves, you have to ask, why are milk solids needed in just about every packet of chips, every stock and gravy, even the humble apple has been laced with the milk protein when they are polished and waxed! (learned that one the hard way) Why are milk solids in everything, and why is it such a crime to use a goats milk for a baby in need…
    Another interesting fact, cows milk breaks down into opiates while digesting, addictive opiates that have you coming back for another pack of chips and makes you dread the thought of not enjoying those special treats, if we are addicted to all these products the giants stand to make a lot of money! Goats milk does not contain the peptides that break down into addictive opiates, meaning if our packs of chips were flavoured with it rather than cows milk solids, we won’t become unknowingly addicted.
    They are threatening to take this baby because mum is not feeding it an addictive substance that will ensure buying power. They know full well what they are doing, and the more people who are working this out, the stronger the push for milk becomes.
    Just a few weeks ago I told a supermarket employee (also a friend) about my milk addiction and how I have to avoid almost all foods at her place of work…. she had been feeling unwell for a long time and decided to try the whole no cows milk thing, and it worked! she’s no longer addicted to all those foods and has returned to normal health….surprise surprise, I walked in a few days ago and there is a huge milk machine right at the front of the store now, laden with flavoured milks, very encouraging for children wouldn’t you think?
    This is deliberate, they know what they are doing, if everyone got off cows milk there would be no way to control our buying habits any more.

    December 7th, 2013 4:24 pm Reply
  • Tony Spencer

    I was nearly convinced by a few friends to switch our 4 month old from Gerber formula to homemade goats milk formula.

    I urge you all to read this case report if you are considering making your own goats milk formula as its far too much protein and sodium.

    “The infant’s respiratory distress seemed principally to be the result of severe metabolic acidosis with respiratory compensation. A comprehensive metabolic panel revealed acidemia, severe hypernatremia, and azotemia, with significant hyperosmolarity. He had hyperchloremia, hyperphosphatemia, hyperuricemia, and an elevated creatinine kinase level.”

    “Goat’s milk contains 50 mg of sodium and 3.56 g of protein per 100 mL, approximately 3 times that in human milk (17 mg and 1.03 g per 100 mL, respectively).6 The estimated requirements of sodium and protein for infants <6 months old are 100 to 200 mg/day and 9 to 11 g/day, respectively.7 The infant described here was receiving ∼500 mg/day of sodium and 30 g/day of protein, with a total intake of 32 oz of goat's milk per day. The immature kidneys in very young infants have difficulty handling the byproducts of foods with a high renal solute load.8 Sodium excretion capacity matures more slowly than glomerular filtration rate and does not attain full capacity until the second year of life.9 Therefore, infants fed fresh goat's milk are at substantive risk for hypernatremia and azotemia, particularly in the face of dehydration (as in the case described here), which may in turn result in major central nervous system pathology, including diffuse encephalopathy, intraparenchymal hemorrhage, or thromboses10 as manifested in our patient."

    October 9th, 2013 1:36 pm Reply
    • Phebe W.

      In the same article it is also stated that there was no significant difference in infants who were fed goat’s milk formula and cow’s milk formula. Yes this article listed a lot of issues in ONE baby, a lot of sources supporting allergies in both cow’s and goat’s milk. However this ONE case of severe health problems do not convince me. What about the thousands more Amish children or children in countries like India, where owning a goat is a staple to a household as it provides a family with milk, who are not affected at all? I am from the West Indies
      (Caribbean) and grew up with families who had goats and sheep and one cow. Guess what they used them for? Caribbean kids at that time when I was growing up were intelligent. Never in the hospital. Matter of fact we rarely needed to go to the doctor, we were so healthy. We sometimes got shots from a mobile medical team that went from school to school. Look up the results of the world IQ tests and see where America’s kids fall on the list compared to other countries who have much different standards where Food is concerned. Something is not right with how much Big Ag is fighting this, with very little cases to back up their claims as seen I this article. You have to ask yourself what other factors were involved? If I buy milk for my son, I’ll investigate my farmer. Visit his/her farm if possible, prepare his milk with clean hands and utensils. We always warmed our milk growing up. Did you know that that is a mild form of pasteurization? I was told this by my dietician in the hospital when I was last pregnant this year. This was her comment to me when I told her I sometimes prefer to drink raw cow if I do have dairy, but rather drink Almond milk. She did not judge, did not freak out, but instead told me that “they” have said there are risks of infection and harming the fetus so just simply warm it on the stove like we do in the islands (she was from the Caribbean as well, surprise surprise). I would say to you dig deeper for the truth that you seek.
      Remember when they told us coconut milk/ products were bad? And avocados? We grew up on those in the islands as well. Had a coconut tree in every place we lived. An avocado tree too, and we ate them ALL the time. I do not have high cholesterol, never have. Dig deeper my friend.

      May 3rd, 2014 9:32 am Reply
      • Becky

        Good thoughts. I like it. Back to nature!

        May 3rd, 2014 8:26 pm Reply
  • Rosanna P.

    I too had my run-ins with big brother while trying to provide the best for my children. I was awarded custody of my daughters from the State of Washington. I then made the mistake of moving to the State of Nevada. My eldest daughter was having trouble with staying interested in school because of her IQ. I had her tested for the Gifted and Talented Program as soon as the test became available. The results were as expected- she qualified for the program. The problem: she came from a broken home so it was determined by the school board that my daughter would not emotionally be able to handle the program. They had no personal relation with my daughter, so how could they make this decision? Anyway.. I knew trouble was in her future if I did not get her into a classroom that stimulated her intellectually. I did some research and found out that the State of Nevada allows for homeschooling. I knew this was the answer I had been looking for. I filled out all the necessary forms, bought all the necessary supplies, and within two weeks I had my daughter in homeschool. My daughter blossomed! She was taking violin lessons, going to museums to find facts, she even used her telescope to chart the movement of the stars across the night sky. All at eight years old. Somehow, though, when my ex brought our custody case to my new home state, my daughters education would be a major factor in whether I would be considered a fit mother or not. To jump ahead in time… I was forced by court order, to put my daughter back into public school AND to have her meet with the school counselor weekly. The counselor was privy to my thoughts on public education thanks to my ex’s conversations with her. This put an immediate red flag against me at my daughters school. I could do nothing right. If I pulled my daughter out early for any reason, I would find myself in court the next week. If I put my daughter on restriction to her bedroom as a punishment for hitting her brother and she told the school counselor about it, I was in court the next week. Eventually the judge decided without notice to me, only to my ex and school officials, to give full custody to my ex . I had sent both my daughters to school via the school bus that fateful day not knowing that when they got off the bus they would be escorted to the airport. I did not know where my daughters were for 27 months! I did everything right and yet big brother stepped in and broke rules to fit what they wanted to see happen.
    *A side note to the story.. The judge in this tragedy years later was disbarred for being intoxicated while on duty. All parents in his court had been saying that for years.

    September 8th, 2013 2:14 pm Reply
  • Tori Cooper

    Although I do think it is ridiculous how the government is acting… I also don’t understand why she is not breastfeeding? I’m all about being crunchy and natural… but if we are going to go natural, let’s go natural. Let’s do what God intended our bodies to do and breastfeed. The best nutrients are found in Mother’s milk. If the mama is eating healthy balanced meals and taking her real food vitamins, then the baby should get all that and more via breast milk. I do believe that factory made formula is not an option (synthetic vitamins is never a solution). However, home-made can never compare to natures provision.

    September 3rd, 2013 5:20 am Reply
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  • TinaC

    My husband was laid off a few years ago and it took him a while to find work again. During that time we took advantage of the free insurance for children provided by the state. We had to change from our loved and trusted family doctor we had had for years to be eligible, and my children very rarely have to see a doctor, but be wanted them covered, just in case. I did take my daughter one time when she got a bee sting and was reacting badly to it and found the doctor immediately suspicious of us. Apparently needing state government funded programs immediately puts you on the list of people they watch closely for signs of abuse. His manner was very suspicious and although I did not share any of our personal practices (thank goodness!) he basically accused me of several things, including under-nourishing my daughter and possible sexual abuse (he asked if she had any pain on her chest or private parts – not really relevant to the bee sting on her ear!) and my daughter, who is in her early teen years, told him that her chest was a little sore about once a month, but she figured it was because it was growing and she might be starting her period soon. He said this NEVER happens and was “suspicious”. He suggested we come back in for a battery of test and some “other” tests. I said sure Doctor, what ever you say Doctor, and made the appointment. Then RAN back to my normal doctor, who was outraged and said he would provide free medical care during our work absence and would support us in any way he could. I called the office and said we were back at work and would be changing our appointments over to our new doctor again and to call him if they liked, which they did to make sure. Luckily that is where the experience ended, but I can easily see how things could have gone differently. You have to be soooo careful if you use any public assistance! Now I work in a charity where we put people in touch with necessary assistance, and counsel them how to protect themselves when they use the services. Never ever ever ever share what you don’t have to share! These people have too much power, and what ever their motives they can and do use it to hurt your family.

    August 30th, 2013 11:24 am Reply
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  • Harvey Miller

    Is it the state social services agencies? Is it the conjured up “Big Government”?
    Who is really at fault for transgressing the right of parents to feed their tots
    raw goat milk?

    When I visited Mark McAfee at his Organic Pastures dairy near Fresno CA and
    Ron Garthwaite at Claravale near Hollister California, I got the answer.
    And when I read “The Raw Milk Revolution” by David Gumpert, it became
    even clearer.

    There is a conspiracy in this country to destroy every threat to the agricultural
    establishment’s profitable control of our food supply. That explains the persecution of Mark and Ron. That explains the brainwashing of the social services agencies.
    They have been propagandized to believe that raw milk is dangerous. The exact
    opposite is the truth. Pasteurized, homonogized milk is dangerous.

    For example, the Republican congressman from Modesto is Jeff Denham. He has deep roots in the agricultural establishment. And he has ties to the California
    Department of Food and Agriculture. Democratic Senator Feinstein is no better.
    So it is BIG AG that is infringing on our rights, acting through the FDA and their
    state pawns.

    August 27th, 2013 8:40 pm Reply
  • Nick Graham

    I worked as a child protective worker in Maine at the Lewiston DHHS office. I was terminated within 1 month because I saw caseworkers violating the rights of parents (and I was actually TRAINED to do just that on my first day of training) and I started asking questions. I was pulled into a meeting with the program administrator (Cathy Lachapelle) and told I was “not a good fit” for the position, and let go. When I told Cathy that there were provisions in Title 22 so that the job could still be done WITHOUT violating people’s rights, she told me that was true, but that it was take far too much time and that we, as caseworkers, would never be able to get our work done.

    Better to violate people’s rights than to actually work a bit.

    Still looking for a job.

    August 27th, 2013 8:05 pm Reply
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  • BillWhit

    Our Govenment needs to be shown it’s place, and it isn’t involving itself in people’s lives, it is for our National Security, Workforce, and Interstructure, not telling people what they can and cannot do! This current Administration, under the mentally distrubed President, Obama, are following the footsteps of Communism and needs to be stopped. Obama should be removed from office and society for the safety of our Nation and it’s people.

    August 27th, 2013 4:17 am Reply
  • Larry A. Singleton

    Goat’s milk for babies has been used for thousands of years. Our government is totally out of control. Especially under the commie fascist Liar in Chief and his Head Goon Eric Holder.

    And these rotten scum never have a convenient “contact us” at their websites. They try to make themselves as inaccessable as possible. I just spent an hour trying to find an email address to their main office. It doesn’t exist.

    One of these days I’d like to start a website with a list of what happens after the revolution. Specifically those who would have to go into hiding to keep from being strung up for their treasonous deeds. Like most politicians and government employees like those at the DMV, Family Law/Child Support, IRS, City Hall, the County, Code Enforcement, etc.

    These people would be at the top of the list.

    Aside from that the best solution to this countrys problem can be found in Vince Flynn’s book “Term Limits” Where is Scott Coleman when you need him?

    The War Against Boys: How Misguided Feminism Is Harming Our Young Men by Christina Hoff Sommers
    Taken Into Custody: The War Against Fathers, Marriage and the Family by Stephen Baskerville (At least go to Amazon and read the Preface and Introduction to these two books.)

    Purple Heart’s Final Beat – A Soldier Suicide Story
    Plunder: How Public Employee Unions Are Raiding Treasuries, Controlling Our Lives and Bankrupting the Nation by Steven Greenhut
    One Nation Under Arrest: How Crazy Laws, Rogue Prosecutors and Activist Judges Threaten You Liberty by Reosenzweig & Walsh
    Mean Justice: A true account of a prosecutor’s power and betrayel by Edward Humes
    The Man by Irving Wallace (The “Black” President we should have had.)
    The Innocent Man by John Grisham

    August 26th, 2013 10:36 pm Reply
  • brian

    with the rate of autism increasing and children being born with thyroid problems due to our government covering up the severity of the Fukushima incident to it’s own people and instead raising the level of acceptable toxins in seafood……the last thing we need is parents being forced to use toxic formula to raise their children.

    slowly but surely we are no longer a free country. as long as companies like Monsanto are backed by government officials and allowed to create toxic foods that alter our bodies in ways we cannot imagine, we will never be okay.

    August 26th, 2013 4:57 pm Reply
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  • Mike V

    Solution is simple. Research Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.

    August 25th, 2013 1:18 am Reply
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  • kadja1

    Well, so are the idiots going to ban breastfeeding as well? I think it’s time parents barnstorm the legislatures of their states and remind them who pays their paychecks and either vote them out if they don’t comply or move to other states that will mind their own bloody business. Everyone is entitled to get a 2nd opinion. EVERYONE.

    August 24th, 2013 3:05 pm Reply
  • Victoria

    I remember reading (I believe it was in Sally Fallon’s Wise Traditions book) that goat milk is missing certain nutrients needed for growing babies and that if you choose to use it for formula that there were certain critical things you needed to add to it – such as nutritional yeast. I hope she did that with this homemade formula. Otherwise I can understand why the doctor took the action he did.

    August 18th, 2013 1:26 pm Reply
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  • Becky

    This is so sad. I hope the Weston Price Foundation can advocate for this dear mom who is to be admired for not falling for baby formula advertisements, finding something far superior to feed her baby. People don’t understand that the reason Medical Doctors think commercial formula is THE WAY is because those companies advertise like crazy, with cute, emotional, convincing ads, offering doctors and hospitals all kinds of freebies like diaper bags and samples if they will use their product. I used the homemade raw goat milk formula for my baby, too, who was adopted so I couldn’t give him THE BEST which is breast. He thrived on it. I just kept the secret to myself as much as I could. I got by this one by keeping a carton of Similac in my diaper bag whenever I went to the Pediatrician’s office. When she asked what brand of formula the baby was on, I pulled out the carton. I don’t think that was lying, either, because he was on it when I got him, and I used it some in a pinch. I hope to see the day when medical doctors are more nutritionally educated; let’s advocate for each other and speed the day!

    August 14th, 2013 4:08 pm Reply
  • Melinda

    It’s interesting to me to read so many comments from people who know SO much better than this family about their situation. “Get a job,” and “get off benefits” and “Why aren’t you breastfeeding?” from people who didn’t trouble to read all the comments and learn why.

    This is a very young mother and a 7-weeks premature baby. Maybe some of you can imagine how frightened and stressed she was in the hospital and stop criticizing her for believing the doctors. No one here knows her family finances, but if you read all the comments you’d know her husband works. “Get a job” – really? You think there are a lot of jobs available in her area for people like her?

    Thoughtful advice is one thing. Criticizing this little family and sneering down your noses at their choices is counter productive (and offensive.)

    August 14th, 2013 1:50 pm Reply
  • Cindy L.

    Advice for this young mama and loving grandma, who both seem well informed, well educated and plain old savvy. GET OFF GOV’T. BENEFITS. With such a good support system, why is she allowing the daughter to do that anyway? The father is involved, and the Grandmother doesn’t seem to have a problem with it. Let them both get jobs, let the grandparents help, and pay their own way. Then the govt can’t get involved…. Sheesh!

    and WAPF, where are you lawyers to help this young mother out???

    August 14th, 2013 12:48 am Reply
    • trsedwards

      @cindyL even those of us who are not on the government ticket are still in danger of DCSF through the schools based on anything a child might talk to his classmates about from bad gothic poetry to the pocket knife his daddy gave him ((yes, true story from yours truly. He did nto even have it on him at school, simply told his classmates that he had gotten a new pocketknife… in fact the school sent two dcfs workers because the first one was superstitious and would not enter our house because we had cats. yes. really)). Then, even if you have talked t o your children very carefully from birth about what not to talk about at school, you still have to take them to the doctors office for, minimum, the required check ups and booster shots and gods help you if you ask too many questions about those shots. Diets?? dont even think about anything non standard… cannot escape DCFS in this country, on or off the social service benefits, they will come for you if you step out of mainstream line.

      August 14th, 2013 2:14 pm Reply
  • Jezebelle

    DHHS has entirely too much power and often times huge egos to go along with it. Babies and very young children go for top dollar. DHHS literally cheers and celebrates when a parents rights are terminated. I have witnessed this with my own eyes as a professional who has worked with the so called “offending” families. Unless you follow a text book outline of parenting, don’t tell them what you do. Yes, there are families that need DHHS involvement, but this kind of thing here happens entirely far too often.

    August 13th, 2013 6:48 am Reply
  • Rich

    There is actually a very simple solution to this dilemma: if you don’t want to comply with state’s rules and regulations, then don’t take the money.

    I think it’s pretty hypocritical to take the money and then turn around and whine and complain about the strings attached to the money.

    Perhaps they should have thought of that before they cashed the check?

    August 12th, 2013 5:23 pm Reply
    • Thelma

      Rich there are many parents in Maine that have had their children stolen by DHHS that have never taken a penny of state money. They take healthy happy kids from their family and adopt (sell) them out to the highest bidder. The trend here right now seems to be adopting them out to homosexual couples.

      August 12th, 2013 9:58 pm Reply
    • Jen

      Your comment regarding this family receiving aid has nothing to do with an idiot doctor and idiot officials of Maine trying to steal a young mother’s baby because she cares enough to make a homemade goat’s milk formula for him. The two are not related.

      August 12th, 2013 10:12 pm Reply
    • PJ

      This is a pretty silly statement. So if you take state money then any ridiculous requirement is OK? It is not in the state’s interest to have starving children hence the benefits, nor is it in the state’s interest to punish good nutrition with said funds.

      August 31st, 2013 1:01 am Reply
  • Helen T

    My grandnephew was put on GMO formula when my niece couldn’t breastfeed and I raised such a fuss when I heard about it, they went to organic. BUT, when the doctor found out on the next visit, he put the baby right back on GMO formula! And guess what? The baby didn’t do so well that a visiting nurse recommended going back on non-GMO formula.

    WHY ON EARTH are doctors the last to know….is this intentional? One wonders…..

    August 12th, 2013 3:56 pm Reply
  • Jennifer

    This is bullshit my daughter qas on goats milk for most of her infant ear my doctor reccomended it and the state wic paid for it. I as a child was raised on goats milk as well

    August 12th, 2013 3:36 pm Reply
  • Jennifer R

    It’s not too late to relactate, she can use a supplemental nursing system (SNS) to feed her baby at the breast. I don’t know how state services would deal with it, but there is also donor milk if formula is not agreeing with her baby (or she doesn’t think it’s healthy, which is true). She could tell the state that she is pasteurizing the donor milk to deal with the germaphobes. It really is too bad when we try to improve on the offerings of the system and the system reminds us that underneath the kid glove is an iron fist.
    Here is some information about supplementing at the breast:
    Here, Jack Newman has a list of things to determine if a medical professional is supportive of breastfeeding (and one of them is that if they state nipple confusion doesn’t exist they are not supportive):

    There are more info sheets as well as videos at the above site.

    This is a totally unrelated post, yet it speaks to how the modern medical system has messed up the way we raise our children:

    August 12th, 2013 3:23 pm Reply
  • Deanna

    Her lawyer should be bringing up all the food the US allows to have poisons in it and then how CPS is a racket for making funds for the local county. If he doe not do either of these, she needs a new attorney.

    August 12th, 2013 5:08 am Reply
  • Peter Spotts

    Can she compromise and breastfeed instead? I’m probably not helping much, but I mean if nutrients are the issue…

    August 12th, 2013 12:32 am Reply
    • Nikki

      I would assume that if she cares enough about her baby’s health to be using goat milk formula vs. storebought she probably has a legitimate reason that she isn’t breast feeding.

      August 12th, 2013 8:30 pm Reply
  • Sandi White

    That’s a breach of doctor/patient confidentiality. She should sue the doctor for that.

    August 11th, 2013 10:24 pm Reply
    • Sarah

      Actually, a doctor is required to report suspected child abuse.

      August 11th, 2013 11:57 pm Reply
      • Jen

        Yes, but making a homemade goat’s milk formula for your baby is NOT against the law. Nor is it child abuse. I’d be suing every single person involved in this ridiculous action, starting with the doctor.

        August 12th, 2013 10:08 pm Reply
  • Bianca Bradley

    You get a lawyer stat, and hopefully pro bono and have THE LAWYER talk to the state. The harassment will stop. And Maine is more then redamndiculous on this.

    August 11th, 2013 9:30 pm Reply
  • Raine

    Is anyone starting a petition against DHHS?

    August 11th, 2013 8:17 pm Reply
  • Harvey Miller

    Re “change government”
    Yes, we have to challenge the power of Big Ag and Big Pharma to deny us healthy choices through their power over the FDA and the state departments of agriculture. Only an informed electorate can bring the pressure needed on every level of government.
    Thanks, WAPF!

    But evicting the Republican majority from the House will enable an end to the medical research stifling sequester and to allow deserving Hispanics a place at the table.
    We do need a few for their noise.

    Benghazi?– terrorism doesn’t respect our incumbent administration choices. 9-11, for example. IRS?–a dis-proven flap over nothing. NSA?– unfortunate snooping policy more Republican than Democratic.

    We have a great system and I look forward to President Hilary Clinton.and a Democratic landslide in 2016!

    August 11th, 2013 7:44 pm Reply
  • Tonic

    she needs to invest in learning how to fight back legally… I would get a doctor’s report stating that my son/daughter had no health issues…

    Then I would learn (extremely fast) how to type up a criminal complaint against the doctor, the CPS person and every body’s boss and their boss..

    I would also sue each spouse connect to the person above (they benefit from their pay)
    I would bar grieve any judge, attorney or person that was in the legal profession…

    Then I would make sure to sue them civilly for emotional damages to my baby and my self and my family….


    I would make it my life profession to bankrupt each person that was involved…. I would make sure they lost businesses, homes and they would know to never screw with me or mine again… ALL DONE LEGALLY….

    August 11th, 2013 7:42 pm Reply
    • Sarah

      This woman is just going to be lucky if her child doesn’t die.

      August 11th, 2013 11:59 pm Reply
    • Larry A. Singleton

      I’d rather hire Scott Coleman

      August 26th, 2013 10:40 pm Reply
  • Jennie Blair

    So glad my boys are 27 and 34! Both of them were allergic to cow’s milk and soy formula. When my oldest was a baby, I had a friend who raised goats and I was able to buy plain, good old-fashioned, goat milk! My doctor may not have liked it but there wasn’t anything he could do about it at the time (thankfully). My son has always been very healthy..

    August 11th, 2013 5:13 pm Reply
  • Jane

    My cousin had her children seized by DHS in New York State a year ago. She’s rather young and it seems no matter what hoops she jumps through they don’t want to give them back. The kids aren’t doing well either-too thin, sad, etc. the 5 year old just wants to come home. My aunt-their grandma-doesn’t have the money for an attorney. I’m going to tell her to look into HLSDA

    August 11th, 2013 2:53 pm Reply
    • Dianne

      If there’s a marriage license, CANCEL IT! It’s a contract with the STATE, which gives any issue from the (corporate merger) “marriage” to the STATE. The marriage license gives them jurisdiction and ownership of the children (issue). The STATE considers itself to be the parent (parens patriae). Also, it’d be better if there weren’t a birth certificate, but that’s probably too late. Just a suggestion based on the experience of others – NOT “legal advice.”

      August 11th, 2013 11:25 pm Reply
  • Harvey Saul Miller

    I thought of a better, more reasoned answer to the rugged individualist who blames all government and all bureaucrats for the idiocy of some.
    Governments and bureaucrats are instrumentalities that are responsive to the sources of power in society.
    Big Ag and Big Pharma exert big power. They hate raw milk. They hate anything that competes with their profitable commodities. That includes human mothers’ milk.

    The answer is to change government, not to abolish it. Hooray for the Weston A. Price Foundation and its wonderful influence for change!

    It has nothing to do with Obama. He has enough on his hands, fighting Republican idiocy and obstructionism.

    August 11th, 2013 1:40 pm Reply
    • Jen

      Yes to your last point!

      August 11th, 2013 4:17 pm Reply
    • Marissa

      “It has nothing to do with Obama. He has enough on his hands, fighting Republican idiocy and obstructionism.”

      rrriiiggghhtttt, and Benghahzi, IRS, and NSA. But it’s the idiocy republicans, rrriigghhtttt….

      We have had a successful republic for 236 years, we don’t need to change it
      Harvey. We need to downsize it. If you think our founders are so wrong maybe you
      should go live somewhere else.

      It’s only going to get worse with Obamacare, as Nikki from above says…..wake up Obama voters…..

      August 11th, 2013 6:38 pm Reply
      • Melinda

        I can’t wait ’til the Affordable Care Act takes effect in your state, Marissa! In NY and CA insurance premiums have dropped by HALF. Millions of people have already gotten refunds from their for-profit insurance companies because they failed to meet the new requirement that they spend at least 80% of premium income on actual HEALTH CARE, not CEO salaries and bureaucrats whose only job seems to be to deny coverage.

        So, I look forward to hearing from you as the important and welcome reforms take effect in your community. Just remember, Republicans called Social Security and Medicare “welfare” (although we, you know, PAY for them.) They are just as wrong about this. ALL the other successful developed countries have a national health care system that their citizens love, and it benefits their economies by drastically lowering the costs of health care. It’s a scandal we’re so far behind the rest of the world, but thank God for President Obama standing strong and getting this passed. We can hardly wait, here in VA!

        August 14th, 2013 1:39 pm Reply
    • Helen T

      Obama has Tom Vlasack as Secretary of Agriculture and the FDA head is Michael R. Taylor…..both ex-Monsanto. I say that’s about as ’embedded’ as you can get.

      Time to update Dem vs. Repub: they both have been paid off. EVIDENCE IS ALL AROUND US!

      August 12th, 2013 4:23 pm Reply
  • Holistic Chef Barry

    Around the world more people drink goats milk than cows milk. According to the late Dr. Bernard Jensen and other studies raw goats milk is structurally and chemically close to human Mothers Breast milk. Goats feed off of the herbs and grasses and do very well free range in open pastures. Cows how ever today are often fed GMO grains and corn that is not their normal diet . So what milk is better for the human baby ? Holistic Chef Barry

    August 11th, 2013 12:58 pm Reply
  • Nikki

    Wake up Obama lovers. When you let the state be your mother this is what you get… What we all get. We need to defend our liberties. All of them. Not just the ones we like. We have the constitutional right to life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, private property, the keeping and bearing of arms, free speech, etc… You give up one and they’ll take another.

    August 11th, 2013 9:16 am Reply
    • Jen

      This crap has been going on long before 2008. President Obama has nothing to do with the state agencies butting into the lives of families and seizing their children (or threatening to) for ignorant and ridiculous reasons.

      I agree with everything in your comment, except the first sentence. This is not the fault of one person, who happens to be the President for the past 5 years.

      August 11th, 2013 4:16 pm Reply
      • Bianca Bradley

        No it’s the fault of the people who live in the states and don’t force their legislatures to reign in the state agencies. Maine isn’t the only state where CPS, DHHS, and etc like to run over parental rights.

        August 11th, 2013 11:01 pm Reply
        • Rose

          Good point, and how many “red” states have child welfare divisions, health departments, etc… hmm, all? – I have been appalled to learn in Kansas, where the many people who trumpet the horn of individual rights and liberty when it comes to gun ownership are the same people who knee-jerk against people who don’t want their children vaccinated. Where is critical thinking?

          August 12th, 2013 2:23 pm Reply
      • Nikki

        Agreed. However my point is not that it’s ALL Obama’s fault but that he is a reflection of those that put him into power. We have a generation of “useful idiots” who have forfeited their liberties for a false sense of security. And yes, republicans are guilty too. They have capitulated on the foundational principles of constitutional government and some of us have blindly trusted a party that has helped to lead this country astray. We ALL need to repent for sinning against a Holy God and abandoning the biblical principles our forefathers fought and died for. True liberty is found in Christ and His law, NOT man’s self fabricated humanist law. The state will never replace father, mother or God… Try as it may.

        August 12th, 2013 8:24 pm Reply
        • Melinda

          Yes, Nikki, and that’s just ONE reason I’m glad and proud to have such a good Christian man as President. He seems to have read and understood a great deal more about the commandments to care for the least of our neighbors than his critics do. What could be more anti-Christian than the hateful mantra of “me first” and greed, greed, greed?

          I’m not sure who you’re calling a “useful idiot,” but I’ll try to assume it’s not me or anyone else commenting here and not take offense.

          August 14th, 2013 1:32 pm Reply
  • DB

    Two of my grandchildren were taken from their parents and no matter what the parents did they refused to give them back. Now they have taken the parents rights away and are adopting my grandchildren out to a wealthy couple who could not have children. I tried to get custody of my grandchildren but they found every reason they could come up with to keep me from getting them. The government is taking our children away and selling them to people who can afford to pay off DHS and the judges.

    August 10th, 2013 9:33 pm Reply
    • Thelma

      DB your right about what is going on. It boils down to babies for sale.

      August 10th, 2013 9:42 pm Reply
    • Ginger

      DB, I am so, so sorry to hear about what happened to your grandchildren. It is absolutely heartbreaking.

      August 10th, 2013 10:05 pm Reply
    • Susan

      DB- Reading your story sent chills down my spine. How mortifying. I am so, so sorry for what is going on to your family. You will be in my thoughts and prayers!

      August 10th, 2013 10:39 pm Reply
    • Jennifer R

      This is actually getting to be quite common, unfortunately. The wealthy feel they are entitled to others’ children, and the state is more than happy to cooperate (for a large fee of course) in taking children that are appealing to the wealthy.

      August 12th, 2013 3:28 pm Reply
    • Sue Merritt

      I live in Missouri and I had my 4th child on my 39th birthday and my fifth 13 months later. My children were stolen from me by the Department of Children’s Services in this state as well. They were well cared for and loved and cherished by their brother, sisters, their father and myself. The DCS worker was proven to be lying on the stand in court and our rights were still terminated. We did everything possible to get them back. Nothing worked. They were 5 and 4 when we were terminated. They are 8 and 7 now. I wish I knew of a way to sue the DCS and get my children back but I am afraid it is too late now.
      I hope it doesn’t come down to that for this young lady.
      On a side note: DCS also took 4 of my grandchildren (my daughter’s) and had the same social worker involved from the beginning.

      August 26th, 2013 10:18 am Reply
  • Crista

    It’s terrible but I find that the younger parents,, no matter how good they are, get targeted by DHS and older parents, no matter how terrible, are often left alone. If you are young, you can jump through every hoop they put out there and still lose your child for some loophole they will make up if they have to. I’m glad my children are grown because the fear younger parents must face from an institution meant to help and protect is enormous and I don’t think I could do it these days. I pray for this young family and hope that DHS will realize their error and back off.

    August 10th, 2013 5:41 pm Reply
  • goldhoarder

    Nothing like that precious doctor patient confidentiality. Lmao. People need to research and interview their care providers or the state might kidnap your children. These people are not there to help you. They are there to rule you

    August 10th, 2013 4:44 pm Reply
    • Bianca Bradley

      Patient confidentiality does not cover self harm, you inflicting harm on someone else, or keeping mum about seeing someone being harmed.

      However it can’t hurt to turn the doctor into the ethics board on this.

      August 11th, 2013 10:48 pm Reply
  • Jen

    I’m so sorry this mother and child have suffered so much due to the ignorance of the doctor and state of Maine.

    My 2 1/2 year old son was born at 29 weeks and in the NICU for 56 days. I began pumping immediately, and was able to provide breast milk for him until he was around 3 months old, when his demand outpaced my supply. We were never able to actually breastfeed either. I gave him my milk through a bottle.

    We had been drinking raw milk for 2 years previous to his birth, and I ordered everything I would need for homemade formula while he was still in the NICU… just in case. I knew I would never give him GMO filled commercial formula.

    Since he was a preemie, we had to take him to pediatrician visits when he was released from the hospital. Fortunately, we picked a wonderful doctor who never harassed us about not vaccinating. Since I was breastfeeding when we first began seeing her, we let her continue to think that, even after we switched to the raw milk formula, exactly because we wanted to avoid the experience of the mother in this article. At every visit she would exclaim about how well he was doing, how well he was growing, and his awesome development. She would always say, “Keep doing what your doing”. I wanted to tell her so badly how awesome the raw milk formula was, but I kept my mouth shut. As soon as we resolved a low iron issue, with a natural supplement and lots of liver and other real foods high in iron, we quit going. There’s no point in taking a healthy baby or child to a doctor if you’re not going to vaccinate. It’s been about a year since he’s seen her, but I’m so happy to have established a good relationship with a great doctor in case we need her at some point in the future.

    August 10th, 2013 4:10 pm Reply
  • Heather

    Yet another reason to support the Parental Rights Ammendment! Look it up and make a few calls to representatives- it might be your family next!

    August 10th, 2013 3:10 pm Reply
  • Thelma

    I live in Maine and can tell you first hand that DHHS here is notorious for seizing children from good loving homes and the protocol seems to be the same every time. Force the parents to feed soy based food and drinks and spend time at the Barbara Bush Children’s hospital. I know of one family that they actually told them the child could not have water to drink because there was no calories in it. They couldn’t feed fruit unless it was in store brought yogurt, jello, or ice cream.

    August 10th, 2013 12:18 pm Reply
  • Auda Adler

    We have become a nation so dumbed down that we cannot rationalize for ourselves…and that includes Drs, social media, etc. and common people are the ones who have retained their “horse ” sense as they have to have common sense to survive. If you think I am too narrow in my view look at the tv programs that make no sense at all…sex personified and that too blatant that it is barely recognized for what it is…I grieve for our country that we cannot see what is happening to us…and it is right b fore our eyes!

    August 10th, 2013 12:14 pm Reply
  • Selena Mendolia

    This is sad and I think there needs to be a petition started for this mom.

    August 10th, 2013 12:09 pm Reply
    • Melinda

      I agree with you. Someone in the family should start an online petition and start sending it around. Get enough signatures and you can embarrass the state officials into backing off. Bureaucrats do not like to have their actions publicly called into question. I get notices to sign these all the time, but at the moment I don’t remember the online location to create one – does anyone else?

      August 10th, 2013 9:53 pm Reply
  • Harvey Miller

    Thank you.
    Here’s to raw milk, human or other (mammal), from 9 days to 90 years (before and beyond), for all humans!

    August 10th, 2013 11:48 am Reply
  • Judy Converse MPH RD LD

    I’m a licensed registered dietitian with graduate and undergraduate degrees in nutrition. In my peds nutrition practice, I’ve guided many babies, including my own, through safe use of a nourishing homemade goat milk formula, when breastfeeding for whatever reason was not successful or possible, and the commercial options fail. There is nothing wrong with this at all. Moms and babies need good guidance from providers who welcome this choice. Loma Linda University even publishes its goat milk infant formula. I’ve included a recipe for it in two of my books and countless client care plans. Sounds like a misinformed pediatrician has struck again. This strategy has helped so many babies who may have otherwise failed to thrive – believe me, I’ve met those too! As long as the formula is mixed to the correct ratios for the baby’s needs, and the right vitamin supplement is added (especially for goat milk, which lacks folic acid), this can be a great option.

    August 10th, 2013 11:22 am Reply
    • Bianca Bradley

      Why not scout out the pediatricians in this town of maine and send them information. That way they are informed. While you are at it, find the DHHS office that supports that town and send them the information about how wrong they are.

      August 11th, 2013 10:45 pm Reply
  • MissyM

    I hope this mother sees this: She should contact the HSLDA – Home School Legal Defense Association- they regularly go to bat for parents whose fundamental rights are bein violated. It would be worth a try.

    August 10th, 2013 10:26 am Reply
  • Al Martin

    so they give this woman a hard time. Now she brought her child for care to a pediatrician and he reported her. Now wouldn’t you rather a mom like this than the minorities who don’t even bring their baby to the doctor and feed their kids koolaid or purple stuff. Damn this country.

    August 10th, 2013 9:23 am Reply
    • Ivy

      I have to ask. What exactly do you mean by “minorities”?

      August 10th, 2013 3:47 pm Reply
      • Belle

        It’s in the comment….the minorities of people who don’t take their kids to the regular doc.

        August 11th, 2013 10:59 am Reply
  • Olaf Haraldson

    This is crap… when I was a baby, my doctor had my family put me on goat’s milk!

    August 10th, 2013 9:19 am Reply
  • Suzanne

    Blessings to that poor family. However, I’m not at all surprised by the reaction from that Dr. Allopathic physicians know the least about nutrition, but are most confident about their knolwledge, than anyone I’ve encountered.

    August 10th, 2013 9:08 am Reply
  • Sheril C

    I am so glad you are covering this story. Thank-you! I had a situation with my doctor threatening me with calling social services when my son was just a couple of months old at the most. He was not gaining very well and 22 years ago even with having the la leche league book at hand I just did not know what to do to fix my breastfeeding problems. If I knew then what I know now… In any case, apparently the doctor did not believe that I was following his advice and he most definitely had a prejudice towards obese babies. My advice to young moms being mistreated by doctors is to change doctors at the first sign of this type of doctor arrogance. If there is an indication that your doctor has no respect for you as a mom, you need to get out of dodge. I did this and it worked for me. Finding a new doctor right away may be just the ticket to having what you need to protect yourself if your old doctor does go ahead and calls social services after you leave his practice which many will not do. If you still need help after that, please consider calling a very pro-family legal group like HSLDA. I’m sure there are others groups that I’m not familiar with too. HSLDA has been known once or twice to take a case from someone who was not already a member and who may not even be homeschooling simply because it is their mission to protect families in our very not-free and not family friendly legal climate.

    August 10th, 2013 7:58 am Reply
  • trsedwards

    I was an intolarent child, could not drink milk, nor any of the patented formulas, nor even breast milk the only thing I could keep down was straight goats milk ((growing up in the country in the 60/70’s this was not a problem)

    45 years later I eat like a goat, literally everything and in amazing varieties, I do not work out, I am am not particuliarly active at work or outside. I weigh the exact same as I did at 17 and do not have an ounce more body fat than I did when I was 10. Goats milk is the only real non human milk to go with the long lasting metabolic benefits alone are indescribably huge.

    August 10th, 2013 1:49 am Reply
  • Wendy

    This is a bunch of bull! When my oldest daughter had trouble with formulas, goats milk was one of the recommendations by my pediatrician. I know lots of people who have fed their infants goats milk. I say it is time to move someplace else!!

    DHS makes me sick. They go after good people and leave children with parents that are horrible.

    August 10th, 2013 12:23 am Reply
  • Bea

    Whaaaat? I tried goat’s milk and it was wonderful! Many of us Asians are known for being lactose intolerant and it was probably the only milk (aside from the lactose free ones available in the store) that didn’t destroy my stomach.

    August 9th, 2013 9:25 pm Reply
  • Kathy

    When my son was a baby we discovered he was very allergic to cow’s milk, and this is not an uncommon thing. His father had also needed goat’s milk when he was young. Our pediatrician instructed us to give him goat’s milk. It was very difficult to locate at the time and I could only purchase it at one particular farmer’s market. Now, it seems to be much more available which is a good thing. My son thrived and grew up to be a fine and strong man.

    August 9th, 2013 9:16 pm Reply
  • Tania Allen

    I’m the baby’s grandmother; if you would like to contact me, find me at Everyday Miracles Farm on Facebook! Thanks for your support!

    August 9th, 2013 9:06 pm Reply
    • Belle

      This connection is why I love the Internet and this collection of blogs. Fantastic.

      August 11th, 2013 10:43 am Reply
      • Max

        yes.. the internet what has emerged as the balancing factor to the .0001% who now control everything. Post/threads like this are what it’s all about. Pictures of your turtle etc are not. However, if that’s as deep as one’s brain/spirit goes, the internet makes no judgements. // Staying away from anything governmental in these times is, frankly, rather imperative. I certainly did with my kids. Conversely, I worked in social services and street work for years… foster parent as well. EVERYTHING can be ‘tweeked’. Keep your cards to your chest. Use the net to educate, advocate, share info. We used to say ‘power to the people’. Now, we have a means to deliver that power.

        August 11th, 2013 1:04 pm Reply
    • Ginger

      I went to your FB page. All I can say is, “WOW!” Beautiful pictures of health animals. Now I understand how the goats milk formula came to be. The doc and DHHS need to step aside and let you folks do what you know is best.

      August 12th, 2013 8:00 pm Reply
  • nat

    This is ridiculous! and really hate to ask the question, but….why oh why is this baby not being breastfed. You are on welfare and are not giving him the best and cheapest option available? This is my first thought, sorry:(

    August 9th, 2013 8:37 pm Reply
    • kittyn

      Nothing said about why she’s not breastfeeding. Possibly medical issues she can’t control,maybe a bad hospital experience, who knows. Not our business.

      I will, however, take MUCH wrong with your assumption about ‘welfare’. The article doesn’t specify what state aid she receives. For example, I receive ‘state aid’ or ‘government benefits’. I do not receive ‘welfare’ (actually TANF, for the record). I get some food assistance (SNAP, aka ‘food stamps’), reduced rent in a HUD backed apartment complex, and my kids get Medicaid.

      Now, in technicality, if I received reduced cost insurance through the state (CHIP and HIP where I am [Indiana]) that’s also ‘state assistance’ and could be listed under generic ‘aid in an article. All that is is between 20% and 80% of your normal premiums paid for by the state. CHIP, the kids version, in my state has an income limit well into ‘middle class’. You could make the same welfare assumption about someone who pays for 80% of their medical costs and all their other expenses because of your assumption that aid=welfare.

      WIC also counts as state assistance. Normally between $80-$200/mo worth of VERY specific foods. The $200 side, btw, would be for formula fed infants.

      I will guess, though, that she gets Medicaid. The income limit for pregnancy medicaid is about 200% of poverty level, and after you have the kid, you normally keep the medical coverage for 1 year to cover any post natal issues that arise and increase the chances that you, and the baby, go see a doc as needed. She may also receive food stamps and WIC, they tend to be pretty common for most people who are low to middle income for at least 6mos-1yr after a child’s birth.

      So, welfare as you’re implying, IE, cash/TANF? Pffts. Good luck. I don’t know anyone who qualifies, and I’m poor. I have qualified for all of 3months of my 7+ years of having kids, and even then it’s not really worth it. 60 hours/week of volunteer work for $231 a month. Yeah, sorry, I’m not slave labor.

      August 9th, 2013 9:59 pm Reply
      • Tania Allen

        Just wanted to clarify for everyone, as it seems it is the subject of great debate on numerous websites in the comments section. Two things: Breastfeeding. She tried to breastfeed the baby. He was almost 7 weeks premature and in the NICU for his first week. Alorah was told by hospital staff that she must pump her milk and bottle feed the baby. We were concerned that he would not learn to latch on but they said that was an old wives’ tale. It turned out that we were right; when she brought him home from the hospital he still would not latch on and nurse from the breast. She tried for six weeks to get him to all the while pumping milk to feed her son. He grew and his appetite increased but her body would not make enough milk to supply his demand. We researched formulas but couldn’t find one that we felt was natural and safe enough. We have a small farm with our own goats and since we make EVERYTHING from scratch with mostly our own homegrown products, it was a natural choice as a solution. Secondly: welfare. My daughter was 17 and had no insurance. When she was pregnant she applied for MaineCare insurance to help her pay for the prenatal visits and birth. At her midwife’s urging, she also went on WIC. She no longer accepts WIC and is also taking herself and the baby off MaineCare and will be signing on with a medical sharing group to cover their medical costs. Since this has also become a subject of much discussion, I’ll also speak to vaccinations. She has chosen NOT to vaccinate her baby which has caused the first doctor she had (who reported her) to be very upset. And lastly, some people have made some terrible comments about them “sponging off the state and being lazy”. The baby’s father is a commercial lobster fisherman. He gets up at 3am and works out on the ocean on a boat all day in rain, wind, hot sun, fog, whatever the weather. He comes home at 5 or 6pm. I wouldn’t consider this lazy. They both believe that the baby should be raised by the parents and not by sitters or daycare. I am very proud of them for their strong family values and plans for raising their son. Thank you all for reading and for your support.

        August 10th, 2013 10:03 am Reply
        • Noelle

          So glad your story was shared. We will be praying for the whole family. They chose life, obviously love their son and want what is best for him, and should be supported not threatened. May this end soon and you all be stronger for it.

          August 10th, 2013 10:57 am Reply
        • Sally

          Tania- They sound like AWESOME parents to me! Tell them to stay strong and we will keep the prayers coming!

          August 10th, 2013 11:30 am Reply
        • Amy

          Thank you for sharing this, grandma! I’m so terribly sorry your family is dealing with this- especially when they sound like lovely, responsible, educated people! I can’t believe some of the comments people are making… it’s just terrible. Sending lots of love, light and support to you all as you deal with this. I’m just shocked this is happening in MAINE! And shame, shame, SHAME on that doctor! A disgrace to the profession.

          August 10th, 2013 1:14 pm Reply
        • Cindy L.

          Thanks for filling in the blanks. News stories usually don’t cover them all. Glad the baby’s father is working. Being on state anything is the problem. It sure is expensive to have babies, isn’t it. Glad she’s getting off the state aid. find a good lawyer. Contact WAPF to get some help from them on all the research available for the health benefits of alternative formulas. It’s outrageous that this can happen today. It sounds like they’re doing most things right. Try to get a lactation consultant.. There are women who have begun lactation even with an adopted child. There is a chance for relactation. Do not give up. Why did you believe the hospital staff? They’re not trained for breastfeeding infants. They just learn how to stick pins and medicate the children. Of course there is a need. But you could have insisted to let your daughter nurse for a few minutes a day at some point. Hope you are finding peace in your home….

          August 14th, 2013 12:58 am Reply
        • Peter

          Lobster fisherman? Isn’t that one of the most dangerous jobs there is? I wasn’t sure what her situation was concerning breastfeeding; thought it might be a possibility, which is why I brought it up primarily so she and he could raise their child in peace. I did a paper on the subject, learning a lot in the process, but wasn’t aware it was probable a mother’s body might not be able to provide colostrum.

          August 16th, 2013 6:00 am Reply
        • brian

          their need to be more parents in this country who give a damn about their kids in the way that these two do.

          August 26th, 2013 5:00 pm Reply
    • DRK

      Here is your answer. Parents have a God given right to raise their children as they see fit.

      August 9th, 2013 10:29 pm Reply
      • Helen T

        Not in the Corporate Communist States of America… size fits all!

        August 12th, 2013 4:11 pm Reply
    • Rita

      she has trouble breast feeding you should read the article before judging someone for what they do or do not do . not all women can breast feed contrary to many peoples beliefs . so .. deal with it .

      August 10th, 2013 12:24 am Reply
    • trsedwards

      The Bottom Line is that Goats milk is across the board better at everything Milk is suppose to do for a baby…but this is Cow country ((we all remember the history of the cattle ranchers vs the sheep ranchers…..)) you had Best get in line, eat your beef, drink your milk and Like it or you will be deemed pariah.

      that is the exact same reason that while many other industrialized nations enjoy no less than 6 varieties of livestock including goose, goat, lamb, cow, pig, chicken, The Mighty USA enjoys only the big three backed by the FDA and made into a shambles of natural and modified genetic wasteland for our troubles.

      August 10th, 2013 2:08 am Reply
    • Sheril C

      Nat, there are other articles out there about this which tell that she did want to breastfeed and was also mistreated as a young mother by the medical establishment on that issue. Here is a quote from one source which may interest you, “I am outraged. I am outraged by a state and a system that punishes a young mother for making informed decisions about how to raise her child instead of following the status quo. I am outraged that this young mother started her parenting journey by being told by supposedly trained professionals that nipple confusion was a myth while her baby was being cared for in the hospital. This mother desperately wanted to breast feed knowing it was the best thing she could do as a mother and was not allowed to.”

      I personally do not know the people in this news story and cannot attest to or verify any of this information. However, In my opinion, the moral of the story is that she should not have any interference from the medical establishment, nor from the government in these decisions. These issues are hers to face, to decide on and to live with. And I share the outrage of the person I quoted.

      August 10th, 2013 8:59 am Reply
      • nat

        Thank Sheril,
        I is her business. I am a Canadian, I see some of you Americans just make the assumption that everyone is from the US. We call gov’t support, welfare. We do not have all these sub-sections. Sorry to offend anyone.

        August 10th, 2013 10:49 am Reply
  • Pat in TX

    We do not take our children to physicians. We take their health seriously, too. A parent knows if a child is growing, eating well, sleeping well, eliminating well. Why subject your family to the intrusion of medical personnel who do not believe what you do regarding any aspect of health? We put that money into truly healthy choices for our family!

    August 9th, 2013 8:18 pm Reply
    • Elisabeth Gibson

      Exactly! I have yet to meet a pediatrician (or conventional doctor, for that matter), who understands what truly healthy food is. There is nothing “miraculous,” or even difficult about raising healthy children. Why involve doctors when they aren’t needed? As far as I’m concerned, well-baby and healthy-adult checkups are up-sale and frivolous!

      August 9th, 2013 9:29 pm Reply
    • Laura

      Yep. We got tired of being threatened by various pediatricians years ago, and they weren’t even remotely helpful to us, anyway. We gave up on them and never looked back. Thank God for WAPF!

      August 10th, 2013 6:27 am Reply
      • Christy

        Same here, no pediatricians for us! Our kids are healthy and happy. We very rarely visit doctors, as I take care of everything I can at home using a wide variety of natural treatments. Eat healthy and do your best to avoid the poisons everywhere to support your body’s innate ability to stay well. If we do encounter a physical problem, I do my own research on things that will help. Medical care can be life saving in a catastrophic accident, etc, but general health is best maintained by taking good care of yourself via proper diet, hydration, rest, physical activity, and trying to live contentedly instead of stressed.

        August 10th, 2013 9:37 pm Reply
  • Mary

    What the heck is wrong with that doctor?!! Not to mention social services… if the baby is growing and thriving, they have no basis upon which to intervene. That makes no sense, at all.

    My ped gave me guidelines when my kiddos were little, but as long as they were growing and thriving, her goal was all about educating me on what they needed, not policing my parenting practices. Didn’t realize until reading this, how lucky I was to have her!

    August 9th, 2013 8:13 pm Reply
  • Sandra Crosnoe

    State benefits = state strings.

    August 9th, 2013 5:37 pm Reply
    • watchmom3

      Yes Sandra, that is a sad fact that the younger generation is finding out the hard way, and maybe even some of the older generation. I am absolutely outraged at that doctor for being a mindless sheeple and putting this poor family through misery! This culture of authority always “knowing” what is best for you or your family is just wrong! God save America.

      August 10th, 2013 2:30 pm Reply
  • Anon

    We just had our 12 month check-up with our little one, who’s been on FCLO, probiotics, egg yolks, liver, etc. for awhile – our doc doesn’t know anything. We’ve been researching starting to give him goat’s milk as I slowly wean him from breastmilk; this article went straight to my heart and so saddens me. My husband and I see our LO thriving and healing, which is so exciting. Prayers for this family! May God continue to teach our families in our nation how to eat wisely!

    August 9th, 2013 4:50 pm Reply
    • nat

      Why are you weaning him off the best nutrition, breastmilk?

      August 9th, 2013 8:34 pm Reply
    • anon

      I have to ask the same. Why would you wean your child when breastmilk is better than any other milk? Because of the 12 month mark? You should nurse for as long as your child will let you or until at least 24 months. Especially if there are health issues the child is going through.

      August 10th, 2013 2:29 pm Reply
      • trsedwards

        not all womens breast milk is worth feeding the child honestly. if a woman is sickly by nature, enemic, alergic, or just plain has bad genetic markers, they should go with something else. If a woman has inverse nipples, she Cant breastfeed effectively ((some may be able to pump and feed, but not even all at that)) and some women just plain dont give a fuck that you think she should act like a cow to suit your aesthetic view of her child rearing . and…AND…cut the “god” crap and Teach Yourself. “God” is where half of this “protecting people from themselves at all costs” bullshit starts from.

        August 10th, 2013 2:49 pm Reply
        • anon

          trsedwards, the original commenter mentioned God and frankly you don’t have a right to tell anyone to cut God out of their lives, just like no one has the right to step in and tell a good parent how they should feed/teach etc their child. Also, No one here is saying that women don’t have the right to skip breast-milk or have medical reasons that make them unable to nurse. You are sounding unhinged and irrational in your angry tone to strangers that have done and said nothing to you personally.
          There is nothing wrong with asking a question. That is what people who want to understand do. Its more useful and effective than ranting because of assumptions like the ones you just made.

          August 11th, 2013 10:34 am Reply
      • Anon

        Thanks for your concern! :) I intend to breastfeed him as long as possible, we’re just looking to up his calorie intake; I still nurse him 4, sometimes 5, times a day. I am concerned about certain vitamin levels in his body, specifically Vitamin K2, as he’s struggled with a dairy allergy for awhile. I’ve been on Full GAPS while breastfeeding for 8 months, we’re doing the baby GAPS intro diet with him presently, but he hasn’t gained any weight for about a month even though we’re doing lots of fats, etc.

        August 10th, 2013 2:53 pm Reply
        • anon

          Ah, makes sense now. So sorry you are going through that! Totally check out “Nourishing Traditions” the book has great recipes for home-made formula if you are interested :)

          August 11th, 2013 10:28 am Reply
        • Tonic

          You should still be taking your prenatal vitamins and up water intake no alcohol or other meds…

          August 11th, 2013 7:45 pm Reply
  • Patriot Bill

    People should learn to keep their damn mouth shut!

    August 9th, 2013 4:35 pm Reply
  • amy is a great place to find a functional doctor… Also is one of the leading functional doctors in the US who goes out and educates doctors who have no knowledge of foods and vaccines. I would contact him since he is always on TV and can make the most noise. Doctors don’t like educated patients. If I was this mom I would have a food sensitivity panel done and most likely dairy would be on it.

    I give this information to all my patients so they can say away from gov ran paid by the pharm companies.

    August 9th, 2013 3:51 pm Reply
    • Patriot Bill

      The family is receiving state benefits. If that includes Medicaid or some other type of government funded health insurance, you don’t have a big choice of doctors. You need to go to a doctor willing to accept the state funded insurance. If they are on WIC or SNAP, distributed through EBT, the state could have a record of what is being purchased. However, WIC does encourage breast feeding. But, some women are not able to produce enough breast milk and need to supplement. The standard commercial baby formula for babies who can’t tolerate cows milk is to use a soy based formula.

      August 9th, 2013 10:43 pm Reply
      • Paul

        Soy products are full of estrogen. Which is very harmful to males and causing very really deployment in females. Soy is never the answer. It’s weird, but donkey milk is the closest thing to human breast milk known.

        August 10th, 2013 9:13 am Reply
        • Paul


          August 10th, 2013 9:14 am Reply
        • Ginger

          Paul soy isn’t bad, it’s the way it’s processed, alcohol wash and high eat, that destroys all the the health benefits that soy has to offer. Here’s a link to start you on your journey to finding the truth about soy. The newsletter is written by Dr. Nasar. Just to give you a little of his background:

          Dr. Nasr has a B.S. in Agronomy; M.S. in Biochemistry of anti-oxidants and a
          PH.D. in Pharmacognosy (science of bio-active products). He received his M.D.
          from Rush Medical College in Chicago, followed by Internal Medicine and
          Cardiology fellowships from Chicago Medical School. He is a member of the
          American College of Nutraceuticals and the American College of Preventive
          Medicine and is Director of the Medical Care & Diagnostic Center, Lake Villa, Il

          Also thought you might be open to hearing some of these statistics:

          1. Optiflora (a probiotic) and Soy Protein increase the absorption of protein, decrease
          gas and discomfort and decrease cholesterol by 23%

          2. Sixty (60) studies have been conducted showing soy protein increases
          bone density more than just Calcium Magnesium does.

          3. Two studies show that soy and vitamin E, together, decrease LDL (bad
          cholesterol) by 40% and that is 17% greater decrease than Zocor and Lipitor

          4. Four studies show that soy protein inhibits oxidation of LDL (bad
          cholesterol) by 40%. When cholesterol oxidizes, it becomes “sticky” and builds
          up on the arterial walls, which leads to clogged arteries.

          5. Soy prevents gall stones. It doesn’t dissolve them but it prevents them.

          6. Soy prevents kidneys from damage. Lots of animal protein may be hard on
          the kidneys, but soy protein protects the kidneys

          7. Shaklee’s protein includes valuable protein and isoflavones that are not
          present in other soy proteins produced with heat or chemicals. Shaklee’s low
          heat – water wash process keeps the isoflavones in the protein. Isoflavones
          are natural cancer fighting ingredients that occur naturally in soy.

          8. Soy’s protein and Isoflavones inhibit the mutated cell´s ability to
          make an enzyme that would cause the cell to continue reproducing and form a

          9. Soy inhibits the cancer cell from making blood vessels that invade
          arteries and zap nutrients (this process is called angiogenesis).

          10. Soy increases the killing effect of the white blood cells (phagocytosis).

          11. Soy’s amino acid Lysine when combined with Vitamin C decreases Colon
          Cancer by 90%.

          12. The flavanoids (like those in Shaklee’s Flavomax) when combined with Soy
          Protein are synergistic (they work even better together) and decrease breast
          cancer 10 fold.

          13. Beta carotene (like those in Shaklee’s CarotoMax) when combined with Soy
          Protein and Calcium with Vitamin D are 10 times as effective at preventing
          cancer cells from getting an addition blood supply.

          14. Women in the Orient get about 80mg of Isoflavones a day¦.women in US and
          Europe get about 1.0 mg. That is an 80% negative difference for US and Europe.

          15. Soy protein helps the differentiated cell (bad cell) convert back to a
          normal cell.

          August 10th, 2013 12:39 pm Reply
          • Thelma

            Soy is loaded with estrogen and that has adverse effects on our hormone systems. One litter girl here in Maine was forced (by DHHS) to consume Pediasure after every meal via a feeding tube up her nose and when she was 18 months old it was discovered that her ovaries were maturing. The young lady now has adrenal problems because of the forced soy consumption.

            August 10th, 2013 3:20 pm
          • Ginger

            Thelma, as I said it’s the quality and the processing of the soy that counts. Not all soy is created equal. The formulas, unfortunately are made with GMO soy that is highly processed, thus the problems exist which gives soy a bad reputation. Please go to the link I posted and start to educate yourself. God would not have but soy on this earth if it was to do harm. It is man’s manipulation of the soy that does harm.

            August 10th, 2013 9:27 pm
          • Sarah

            Ginger…. Are infiltrating your opinion on this blog for a reason? Looks like you are being paid to do it. You people will stop at nothing!!!! Sarah’s blog isn’t here fr others use. Make your own blog. I won’t be visiting.

            August 11th, 2013 10:41 am
          • Thelma

            Good point Sarah. And Ginger as for the lord making harmful plants, well he has created many that are toxic to humans.

            August 11th, 2013 2:44 pm
          • Harley Gypsy

            A VERY large percentage of SOY is GMO….and the only way soy is good for you is if it is organic and fermented.

            August 11th, 2013 11:26 pm
          • Ginger

            Sarah, Obviously you misinterpreted my comment. This is information that I have discovered through research. and wanted to share. I too was concerned about soy, until I spoke to a highly respected functional medical doctor and a highly respected nutritional MD who clarified the issues resulting from the way soy is commercially processed. Highly processed soy raises a lot of health questions because of the brake down and disruption of the isoflavinoids.

            Here’s a video for you to review that helps to dispel some of the urban myths surrounding soy. It’s presented by Dr. Stephen Chaney.

            Here’s some of his bio:
            “He is currently Professor Emeritus at the University of North Carolina. At the time of his retirement he held the title of Distinguished Professor in the Department of Biochemistry and Biophysics and the Department of Nutrition at the University of North Carolina where he taught biochemistry and nutrition to first year medical and dental students for 40 years. ”

            “Dr. Chaney also ran an active cancer research program for 37 years. He is internationally known for his research on the biochemistry of anticancer drugs.”

            You can see the rest of his bio at the video site:


            And, yes, Sarah, I do take offense to you referring to me as “you people”. I care about people, I care about their health and want to share information that might help them. I was not paid to make my original post. Yes, I believe in Dr. Shaklee and the products his company has created with the utmost integrity and passion for humanity. Sorry if that offends you. If I wanted something monetary from this post I would have included a website or some type of contact information…. I didn’t.

            The bottom line here, the commercial soy formula is the worst thing that the doctor and DHHS should be demanding the baby be given, but not for the reasons stated by the post that started this thread, but because it’s not processed in a healthy way. I’m confident that the goat’s milk formula has many more advantages for the baby and applaud the mother for taking the initiative to make her own formula. She is a true inspiration.

            To Thelma….. God’s plants all have a place and a purpose. Did you know that poison ivy, a plant that is toxic to many, is a very effective homeopathic remedy?

            Thanks Harley. You nailed it.

            August 12th, 2013 7:47 pm
    • Angelina

      Thanks for this info~thankful there’s still people like that out there, willing to share publicly.

      August 10th, 2013 10:49 am Reply
      • Thelma

        I too have done lots of research (19 years of natural healing) and I never take one persons website as proof of anything. I guess we will have to agree to disagree because I believe that only fermented soy is usable and even that has to be made with non GMO and organic soy.

        August 12th, 2013 10:10 pm Reply
        • Ginger

          Thelma, we are in agreement. It’s all about how the soy is processed. We also agree that it must be non GMO. We also agree that the processed soy formula they market for babies is not suitable. We are on the same page.

          August 13th, 2013 12:14 am Reply
        • Olivia

          Thelma, please read some more before going around stating untrue things. U look like u have been paid to do so. Soy and estrogen was dismissed some time ago, good morning, it’s the way is being processed and if u consume organic one, no estrogen there! Can u work your brain around this and research it yourself, or is the payment u took holding u back? :)))

          August 29th, 2013 4:35 am Reply
  • Jill

    So tragic, the ignorance that is enforced by well-meaning, but terribly misinformed professionals who are in positions of authority! Thanks for posting this article, Sarah. It drives home the importance of not taking for granted that others will understand. Unless a the healthcare provider is a naturopath or physician who a parent KNOWS for certain is on board with Weston A. Price nutrition principles and natural living, it’s best to keep this stuff to ourselves!

    August 9th, 2013 3:27 pm Reply
    • Bianca Bradley

      They aren’t well meaning. They are power hungry. The more kids taken away from families the more money THEY get.

      August 11th, 2013 9:33 pm Reply
      • Harley Gypsy

        You are exactly correct…I used to work for DHS…CPS.

        August 11th, 2013 11:22 pm Reply
        • Deanna Kloostra

          They are also selling custody to abusive fathers who have lots of money. Check out the website Abused Swan. I have found the VP of Fifth Third Bank in my case and his wife, Attorney Donna Mobilia the GAL in my case making some great money. So it is not just CPS or DHS. Can’t wait to run against Debbie Stabenow in 2018. Wonder what she is going to have to say about the corruption.

          August 19th, 2013 10:51 pm Reply
  • Rebecca

    I hesitated and was very nervous when I told my doctor about our cows milk formula. She wanted to know because my child was a preemie, and he started out having a slow time gaining weight (before starting the formula). So it was medically relevant that she asked, but boy was I scared to tell. And so by being so intimidating, doctors and the state are making it so no one will tell them anything. then when a parent really does need some guidance, they’ll never get what they need because the parent will be too scared to confide in them. not like they know too much about kids and nutrition anyway, but still…

    August 9th, 2013 3:20 pm Reply
    • Deanna

      We are not supposed to be scared of our government, our government is supposed to be scared of us.

      August 12th, 2013 5:11 am Reply
      • John

        Well, they are scared. This mother didn’t bring her premie in for medical appointments, which is typical for MaineCare clients. If the mother wants to kill herself off in various ways, that’s her adult privilege, but if she is inadvertently starving her infant, then perhaps a conscientious physician should not allow such behavior when a simple solution is available.

        September 7th, 2013 3:39 pm Reply
        • N

          Starving her baby? You are underedu cated. Why take a baby to the dr unless the child is sick? So it can get sick from people in the waiting room? Well checkupsare for vaccines.

          December 30th, 2013 3:51 pm Reply
    • Rose

      I agree, this is a real problem. Sarah’s DO friend wrote a good post last week about the good aspects of conventional medicine. It can be helpful. However, I, too, learned not to tell my kids’ pediatrician much of anything, after repeatedly being told to give my preemie Ensure powder to help him put on weight, etc. So I basically ignored the doctor when he said the baby wasn’t gaining weight. This was my fourth baby, and I’d heard from doctors throughout my mothering/breastfeeding experience about how my babies didn’t gain enough weight/follow their growth charts. So I tuned out the latest doctor. A couple of months later, I was told my preemie was severely anemic, something only picked up by the one-year old blood draw. I felt horrible. What a tragedy, this breakdown of trust between parents and medical professionals.

      August 12th, 2013 10:23 am Reply
  • Daisy

    And yet the states have no interest in protecting kids being fed Kraft mac n cheese or Fruit Loops. Oy!

    August 9th, 2013 3:17 pm Reply
  • Vicky

    That’s why I keep what I do for my daughters to myself. Granted, our pediatrician is on the crunchy side and allows us to decline vaccinations without pressuring us, I do not tell her about the egg yolk or tell her that instead of inhaled steroids all my five year old needs to keep asthma away is FCLO. I want to keep myself well below any imposed radar that will tell me how to raise my child according to corporate lobbied rules and regulations. I love the WAPF but my raw milk, nonvaccination lifestyle is my little secret.

    August 9th, 2013 2:46 pm Reply
    • Jessica Walker

      I get that FCLO is feremented cod liver oil, but what is WAPF? thanks so much.

      August 11th, 2013 6:02 pm Reply
      • Diana

        WAPF = Weston A Price Foundation :)

        August 11th, 2013 8:09 pm Reply
    • laura m.

      Vicky, even though I’ m retiree, I never mention to doctors about my health food ritual (coc. oil, eating butter, wheat grass, food supplements, etc.) because it is none of their XXXX business. Good idea for all age groups to avoid vaccines. It is unreal the number of vaccines kids get today that didn’t exist in my time! I know several younger couples who won’t have kids because they know the gov. agenda : control freak agencies, anti family to the hilt, to incl tax breaks for couples that live together and not marry. I would encourage every young person today not to breed; America is without hope, headed into the abyss of Fascism and dictatorship and the train has left the station without brakes. Prepare and get with close knit friends for security/bartering when this country collapses.

      August 12th, 2013 4:50 pm Reply
      • Ebony

        #Operationdepopulation … Its sad man

        August 15th, 2013 10:31 am Reply
      • John

        And yet, when you need medical attention, where’s the first place you go? The health food store?

        September 7th, 2013 3:37 pm Reply
  • Kiya Tabb

    Here in West Virginia, our legislature passed a law this year requiring our DHHR to sign off on ALL vaccine exemptions. Exemptions can no longer be made by a doctor. It’s INSANE.

    August 9th, 2013 2:38 pm Reply
    • Lael

      Oh my! That is horrible, Kiya!

      August 11th, 2013 5:51 pm Reply
    • kristi

      I would FN move!

      April 6th, 2014 12:40 am Reply
    • Kaylee

      You can buy home made formula of goats milk all day long if you know who to call. Fed all four of my babies goats milk that was raw and they have never been sick. Screw the state.

      May 31st, 2016 11:27 pm Reply

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