Why Antibiotics Today Could Threaten Your Life Tomorrow

by Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist January 4, 2013

Contrary to the opinion of the conventional medical establishment, there is no free lunch when it comes to antibiotics. Doctors for the most part are still handing out prescriptions like candy to their patients despite the continuing and growing problem of antibiotic resistance.

There is now a strain of tuberculosis (TB), the scourge of the last century, that is completely resistant to all antibiotics.  Doctors have nicknamed this TB strain “TDR”  for Totally Drug Resistant.  As of January 2012, a dozen patients in India were infected with this TB superbug.

The problem with Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) infections continues to expand with babies and children representing a large chunk of the cases.  I’ve been contacted by more than one young mother recently who was beyond desperate to resolve a MRSA infection in her child – an infection which was resisting all conventional treatments like antibiotics.

Beyond the problem of antibiotic resistance, however, are the long term effects of even a single round of antibiotics.  The expectation in the health community that you can just fix the damage with probiotics and/or fermented foods and that gut flora magically returns to normal seems to be far from accurate.

Evidence is now emerging from multiple sources that gut flora may actually be permanently altered by drugs or, at the very least, the damage persists for several years.

Gut Damage from Antibiotics Persists for Long Periods of Time

The Journal Microbiology reports that the generally acknowledged precept that use of antibiotics only causes disruption of the gut flora for a few weeks is highly flawed.

Gut flora does not quickly return to normal after a round of antibiotics.

Even a short course of antibiotics can lead to resistant bacterial populations taking up residence in the gut that persists for up to 4 years – maybe even longer.

As a result, researchers are urging prudence and restraint in the use of antibiotics in order to prevent treatment failure for patients that have resistant bacterial populations still residing in their intestines from previous courses of antibiotics.

What this means is that taking antibiotics today for an illness that is not life threatening may in fact lead to a growth of superbugs in your gut that could actually threaten your life down the road and prevent antibiotics from working for you when you desperately need it.

Could Damage to Gut Flora Be Permanant?

Dr. Martin Blaser MD of New York University’s Langone Medical Center who writes in the August 2011 edition of Nature, has this to say about damage to gut flora from antibiotics:

Early evidence from my lab and others hints that, sometimes, our friendly flora never fully recover. These long-term changes to the beneficial bacteria within people’s bodies may even increase our susceptibility to infections and disease. Overuse of antibiotics could be fueling the dramatic increase in conditions such as obesity, type 1 diabetes, inflammatory bowel disease, allergies and asthma, which have more than doubled in many populations.

As evidence, Blaser goes on to say that infections with H. pylori, the bacterial cause of ulcers, has plummeted in recent years.   H. pylori, as it turns out, is very susceptible to the same broad spectrum antibiotics used to treat children’s ear infections and colds which are doled out without much thought at most pediatrician offices.

Shockingly, the majority of children routinely receive up to 20 courses of antibiotics before the age of 18.   In addition, between one third and one half of pregnant women receive antibiotics during pregnancy.  The high C-section rate is also a contributing factor as surgical birth negatively affects the composition of gut flora in children as they completely miss out on exposure to Mom’s friendly bacteria as they travel through the birth canal.

This is a lot of antibiotic exposure for our younger generations and the implications for those children who don’t acquire H. pylori due to excessive antibiotics appear to be dramatic with a higher risk for both allergies and asthma.

Blaser’s research group has also observed that lack of H. pylori in the human body affects the production of ghrelin and leptin, 2 hormones that play a factor in weight gain.

Preservation of the MicroBiome

The composition of a person’s microbiome, not only in the gut but also on the skin and everywhere in the body, has huge implications to long term health.    Altering this balance with antibiotics not only negatively affects the variety of bacterial species present but also promotes the retention of resistant bacteria in the gut for up to 4 years and perhaps far longer.

Preservation of your personal microbiome is critical and affects not only your health but the health of your children as parents bequeath their microbiome to their offspring.

Blaser observes that:

“Each generation … could be beginning life with a smaller endowment of ancient microbes than the last.”

If Dr. Blaser and the other researchers are correct, it seems that people need to guard their microbiome from the assault of antibiotics in the same manner that they protect their home and possessions with locks on the doors.

Bottom line?

If your illness is not life threatening, skip the antibiotics even for something like strep which even WebMD admits will almost always resolve without drugs or complications.  The risk to your future health is just too great otherwise.

 

Sarah, TheHealthyHomeEconomist.com

Sources:  Long-Term Impacts of Antibiotic Exposure on the Human Intestinal Microbiota, Microbiology, November 2010

Short-term antibiotic treatment has differing long-term impacts on the human throat and gut microbiomePLoS One. March 2010

Antibiotic Overuse: Stop the Killing of Beneficial BacteriaNature, August 2011

Are Antibiotics Always Necessary for Strep Throat?

How to Repair Your Gut After Antibiotics

How to Kick Strep Throat Faster and Better Without Antibiotics

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  2. When my youngest son was born he had a temp of 102 degrees which went away quickly after delivery and never came back. Thankfully, we had written in our birthing plan that our son would not be given any injections, medication of any sort, or have any medical procedure performed on him without our consent. Because the pediatrician was VERY persistent (to the point of being ugly about it) on giving him antibiotics BEFORE they had tested him for the cause. When we refused repeatedly, they became very angry and acted like we were horrible parents. Of course his tests turned out fine and he is doing wonderful, no problems whatsoever. All this to say, not only are antibiotics dangerous, but doctors go WAY overboard with them. And ,sadly, the medical community at large refuses to even explore natural treatments.

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  4. My 10 year old is having oral surgery on Friday and they want to put her on antibiotics as a preventive measure against infection after the surgery. I do not want to comply. Would you agree with me on this that it is unnecessary? Anything you would recommend her take to serve as a natural replacement? Garlic? She is taking fermented cod liver oil.

    Thanks.

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  7. Great info, but yes, definitely discouraging. I have had to give my daughter antibiotics 3 times in her life (she’s 9 now), and hate to think I have damaged her forever. I am a very “crunchy” mama, but these times were when infection was out of control and none of my natural methods had worked.

    So, I’m wondering – what now? A very useful adjunct to this article would be something that gives a little hope as well – like lots of suggestions for returning the body and flora to balance, as much as possible. List of ideas? Or links to other articles on that topic? Thanks!

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  8. I was always told to eat yogurt while taking antibiotics. The probiotics in the yogurt are supposed to restore the “Good bacteria” while the bad & good are being destroyed by the antibiotics. How do you feel about this suggestion?

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  10. I’m new to this entire thought process, so,please be nice :)
    My 8 year old son has been on many rounds of antibiotics in his lifetime due to sinus infections and bronchitis. He has a twin sister who has probably had antibiotics twice ever. They are raised the same way, so it’s always just been “the way he is”. He has asthma and many allergies.
    Several times in his life he has had problems with his bowel movements. But usually a course of Miralax gets things moving. This time, however, nothing is helping, everything is just causing miserable stomach cramps. His large intestine in completely full of feces and hasn’t changed in two months. His pediatrician has referred us to a gastroenterologist. It was not until I ran across this article that I realized its probably his lifetime of antibiotics causing the problem.

    If you have any suggestions for help, I would appreciate them greatly. He’s miserable and I don’t know how to help.

    Thanks

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    • Erin, I’m so sorry you and your son are dealing with this problem. Have you tried enemas? They would only be a short-term solution. You don’t want to become dependent on them, but they can usually help relieve constipation, in my experience. If your doctor did not suggest them and instruct you how to do enemas at home, I would think that was a huge oversight. After getting relief with enemas, I would then work on his diet. That might mean delving into information on the GAPS diet, which is designed to heal the gut and eliminate the results of leaky gut, which can include allergies and many other health issues. The GAPS diet can be restrictive at first, but you gradually add back many foods. And it includes probiotics to re-establish the friendly flora.

      I’d make sure he drinks ample water, too.

      In any case, that is what I’d do. Since he is in such discomfort, you might need advice or help at first from a health professional if you decide to try enemas.

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    • Erin, if I were you I would make sure he has an enema or colonic irrigation soon to address the immediate problem. You could find a natural health practitioner to do this. Then work to heal his gut dysbiosis that has resulted from multiple rounds of antibiotics. There is another thing that may sound off-putting but is being embraced and heralded by many as a wonder treatment and that is fecal transplants (usually from a healthy family member) to repopulate the intestinal tract.

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    • Thank you for your responses so much. Did more reading on this site. I’m taking him to a chiropractor tomorrow to see if he can get some relief. We’ve never been, but it can’t hurt to try. I will inquire about the enema or irrigation too. I’m reading up on the good bacteria, etc, to try and figure out where to start. Again, thanks for your responses!

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  12. Charles E. Abrahamsen, MD January 6, 2013 at 8:59 am

    Sarah, I have been reading your emails and watching your wonderful videos for years. I am not a fan of WebMD or antibiotics, but in my usual “check the primary source” i followed your link to WebMD after reading your “Even WebMD states that antibiotics aren’t really needed for strep after all.” You quoted WebMD as saying “Strep throat will go away in 3 to 7 days with or without treatment. Doctors usually treat strep throat with antibiotics even though they may not make you well faster.” The link you gave (“Source: WebMD”) is http://www.webmd.com/oral-health/tc/strep-throat-topic-overview. Sarah, I couldn’t find that language in my search of the WebMD webpages on strep throat. Can you answer with a link to the webpage from which you took the quote?

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  13. I am a registered nurse and have been told that untreated strep throat can lead to heart damage
    . I have a degenerative Mitral Valve and have had to have heart surgery and many other procedures since I was 42 years old. I believe that my heart problem stemmed from what probably was strep as a child. It was diagnosed as the “red measles” at the time. Therefore, I would be concerned about not treating strep. What are you thoughts on this?

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  14. I am going to start the Body Ecology Diet this week. I am 31 and have been on more than one course of antibiotics in my life and have definitely had digestive issues with them. I think there is always hope even for someone with severe digestive issues or even if they’ve been on antibiotics for years. It just takes work unfortunately.

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  15. Excellent article! I am going to share with my clients. Despite my advice some of them still take the poison when they have the sniffles not realizing the long term damage they are doing. And some of them even give these to their poor children! Alas, those are usually the same ones that are feeding them bagels and donuts for breakfast.

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  16. So what about the babies who do come in via cesarean and Mother was given antibiotics? Is there hope in the slightest if followed by a life time commitment of fermented foods and traditional cooking? My son was born via cesarean 8 months ago and since we have been working on re-balancing our bodies. I hate to live in fear that we are forever doomed…

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    • Keep doing what you are doing. With your diligence over the course of years you both will begin to reestablish NEW good flora. It won’t be identical to those you lost but you can’t cry over spilt milk. The new microbles will be a base to pass on to the next generation. Gotta start somewhere.

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  17. I would love to know your thoughts on this regimen for boils. My daughter’s kindergarten class had an outbreak of boils, likely spread in the class bathroom. Our whole family, in turn, got boils as well. Ou pediatrician did not want to give antibiotics (like the other kids were getting) since they rarely cross into a boil. His recommendations were to: add 1/4 cup of bleach to a bath (pool level of chlorine) and soak for 15 mins twice a week, use antibacterial in the shower instead of soap, bleach all washcloths and underwear, and not to reuse towels. He said MRSA doesn’t respond to bleach, so this would be much better than lancing the boils to test them. Ours cleared up faster than those on antibiotics. My OB/GYN winced at the bleach, but most aren’t fond of pool-levels of chlorine anyway.
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    • Boils also respond well to cleaning the area affected very well and applying tea tree, or eucalyptus, or iodine to the area with a Q-tip, cleaning the boil all the while with the Q-Tip about twice per day. I’ve used the essential oils undiluted with a carrier oil but it does burn a bit. Begins shrinking them right away. Sometimes they burst. Just keep them clean like a regular cut and it should be fine. I suppose that’s why the bleach works too.

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  18. Sarah – I thought H. Pylori was an unfavorable bacteria to have in the gut. As I read your post, it’s the first time I’ve read the opposite. Where can I get more information about H Pylori being favorable?

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  19. I have used Garlic oil many times along with homeopathic remedies for ear infections in my kids. I have 4 kids, my youngest two (because of what I learned since they were born) have never had antibiotics!! My older two boys have each only been on meds 2 times each and they are 7 and 9. I now know that they didn’t really need it, but nothing I can do about that now. I was on antibiotics several times a year as a child and my parents fed us crap food. It sucks, but you can’t control that. I just hope that someday my kids appreciate how they were brought up, foodwise and medicine wise and keep it going for themselves and their own families :)

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  20. I wish that I didn’t have to take antibiotics. However I was born with cystic fibrosis. I’ve taken an oral antibiotic every day for most of my life. When I’m sick I get massive doses of 3 different IV antibiotics. I would love it if I didn’t need them, but unfortunately I do.

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  21. ACV is always on my list when we get sick and oregano oil, black cumin seeds, extra vit d, coconut oil.
    For ear infection or cold 1 drop of peroxide in each ear. While lying on your side let it sit in each ear for about 5 mins then drain. It will reduce the duration of the illness

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  22. After reading the other comments, I realize I have more to say. I am 67 years old, but when I was a 24 year old young mother of three and they were having ear infections again and again…a friend suggested I see her pediatrician, a DO MD. Dr Viola Frymann changed our life, our diet and our health. My children did not have another cause for antibiotics while they were growing up because I changed the kinds of foods I bought and fed them. As they grew up and went out into the world, they started eating what everybody else was eating. They started to get colds and flu but their health has been very good and strong all their lives. I believe due to having such a good start with their diet.

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  23. First i must say that i am a HUGE fan of your blog and ideas … and i thank you for such amazing work … but i must confess: the more i read your blog (i kind of read most of it already) the more i feel doomed and that made me really depressed … i cannot eat entirely like you and the WPF suggest because where i live there is no access to most of the things you suggest … i took so much antibiotics during my lifetime and i messed up really good and now i hear that there is no way out … i spend a fortune buying the supplements and getting them delivered to my country … and i became obsessed with fermented food and everything good i can get my hands on … but no matter how hard i try i always get the message loud and clear from your blog (and many others who are similar) that i am doomed and it’s not going to work … i just wanted to let you know how desperate this almost dogmatic view to nutrition might seem to people … sorry if i was too harsh

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    • Sasha- For 9 years, I wrote a column for my local paper. It was to be about events in the community or light-hearted issues of general interest. But some weeks, coming up with material to write about was difficult. Either things were too quiet in town, or I simply felt like I had nothing to say in particular that week. I was always thankful in those times for a piece of news that i could spin and turn into a column. If I didn’t write a column, then I didn’t get paid.

      Why am I telling you all this? Because perhaps when a blog post is expected as often as Sarah’s come out, it becomes difficult to find something that will appeal to everyone, but it still has to be written, so she simply goes with it. I can’t speak for Sarah, but it seems like running a blog would be a horrendous task; not only to continue to come up with interesting topics, but to research them, fact check them, etc. Sometimes the info she shares is going to be a downer, but the bottom line is that, it is informative.

      But overall I get the jist of what you are saying. When you follow all these blogs the overall message can get heavy on some days. Don’t eat this, avoid that, make sure you eat more of that! UGH! Its maddening. I was getting to the point where it was overwhelming me too! So now, on many days, I scan the info and put it on the back burner. If I ever need it, I’ll Google it and then do further research from the bloggers I respect. You aren’t the only person I’ve seen express this message. It seems like many people are feeling overwhelmed by all the messages of doom and gloom on many of the sites I frequent. Its stressful and exhausting! So, I just decided to say “F it” and eat well, sleep well, laugh hard and play daily, and let the rest worry about itself!

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      • I agree with Susan. Ultimately you have to find what works for you. I have just about done it all – and I’m only 36!! I did a traditional type diet back in Europe, then went the lowfat route. Then went back to somewhat traditional diet, then WAPF, then gluten free, then GAPS and now… well, it’s a GAPS style, somewhat traditional whole foods is the best I can describe!! I do the best I can. Like you, because of my situation I can only get some things in the ‘best’ category: grassfed local beef, organic produce, etc. but not others (pastured eggs here are not that great). My bottom line is this: you can only do the best with what you have right now. GAPS has taught me that miracles are possible, even with substandard food (not local, grassfed, organic, etc.). So keep on plugging!! Do the best you can, take small steps in the right direction, etc.
        The quote above only that the evidence ‘hints’ that flora may not recover. Who’s to know for sure??? This may mean that some people may simply have to eat more fermented food for longer, take a stronger probiotic, etc. but they may heal. So what if we’re only 95% or 90%? Who’s to say??
        P.S. Stress will do you no good – and will only harm you in the long run.

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        • Yes, I agree not to get too crazy about every new thing that you learn; I also have to say that I am working my way through the Weston Price book and unless I misread, it seems that once some of these folks that he studied went off and then back on their native eating, their health problems began to relent. The human body is an amazing thing and has “talents” that we just don’t fully understand. So, trust that when you are doing the best you can, learning more all the time and praying for God to direct you, it will work out. God bless all those who are searching for TRUTH.

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  24. Sadly, after doing tons of reading, I gave up and began to give antibiotics to my 2 and half year old for a uti, (proteus penneri). I read that D-Mannose was ineffective against this bacteria, and that she risked liver damage. Does anybody know of any alternative treatment? Either way, I think that I will have to complete this treatment anyway. It has been one of the most difficult decisions I have ever made since becoming a parent. Sarah, do you have any advice for me? I feel defeated. I am giving her Culturelle in between the two daily doses of Septra. I really, really did not wanted to give it to her and always allowed her to heal everything naturally in the past, but this time I got really scared.

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      “During my first pregnancy, I was sick for 9 months. During my second pregnancy, in the fourth month I was referred to Phyllis. I went from throwing up 3-5 times a day, extreme exhaustion, constant nausea, and within one day, of taking the remedy prescribed, I went to throwing up once a day and within 5 days, I was cured and had a beautiful pregnancy and beautiful healthy baby. When Phyllis first began treating me for the insistent vomiting, I was so malnutritioned from not being able to keep food down, I woke up with an ear infection, pink eye, and a sore throat. She was able to provide me a remedy that cured my ailments without antibiotics.”

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  25. Rita Janzen Talbot via Facebook January 4, 2013 at 8:34 pm

    @ Margaret. Would tea tree oil have worked on an ear infection? I shop with melaleuca, so ofCourse I have some on hand, just never heard this before. I reluctantly took my daughter to the dr for amoxicillin last week. I didn’t know what else I could do for her.

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    • Friends also used garlic oil on a bad ear infection their toddler had, very successfully. Knock on wood, we haven’t had any at our house.

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  26. I can’t remember the link at the moment, but I heard recently that a doctor cured a disease that had to do with bad bacteria overgrowth using a “fecal transplant.” Not an entirely pleasant idea, but it has the potential to quickly replenish gut bacteria to healthy levels.

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    • Hi, Amber. I’m pretty sure you’re talking about curing an infection with Clostridium difficile (C. diff, for short) with a fecal transplant. C. diff can be caused by a number of things that disrupt gut flora, including antibiotic use. It is notoriously difficult to treat and sometimes it recurs despite persistent treatment. Fecal transplant can be used in some of these cases.

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  27. Hi Sarah,
    I’ve been wondering for quite some time now… what are your thoughts on rice cakes? I’ve can’t make up my mind whether to put them in the same category as popcorn or processed cereal… Do you think they’re suitable for a healthy diet?
    Love, Leanne — a fellow foodie & certified nutritionist with a huge passion for “alternative health” :-)
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  28. The website is for WHO facts on TB. Being in the health field, this is something I am concerned about. Over prescription of antibiotics is common, mostly because people are uninformed and think it will help viral infections, asking for it. Physicians can fell pressured to prescribe it not wanting to lose patients, or just by incompetence. I have seen some Drs starting to prescribe probiotics when patients are on them, which I think is a good step toward greater awareness of the problem. As for TB, many cases or drug resistance are because of noncompliance due to poverty or lack of quality medication. The course of treatment is 6 months, and some people just stop taking them. That only wounds the bacteria, and what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger goes for bacteria as well. Thanks for educating people in the judicious use of antibiotics.

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  29. Carrie Nordin via Facebook January 4, 2013 at 6:31 pm

    my 7.5 yr old son sounds like he has just developed bronchitis. i was going to take him to the doc today but i know that he will come out with a scrip for antibiotics. what are my alternatives????

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  30. This reaffirms my choice to not use antibiotics just recently to treat a skin infection in my daughter. It felt like a bit of an experiment, and I did not know how serious the infection could be, so I was ready to pick up the Rx if needed. However, we successfully navigated it by removing grains, sugar, and dairy from her diet for almost a week, used colloidal silver, oil of oregano, and liquid garlic. She broke her own fever and the infection visibly appeared better within a day, improving each day thereafter.

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  31. I am wanting to start using alternative medicene but am not sure where to start. When i take my little one and she has an ear infection or a uti caused by her kidney reflux the doctor always gives her meds. She is only 7 months old and has taken three different antibiotics. How do i find out what to give her to prevent and also to treat. Please help.

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  32. Tabatha Lesmeister via Facebook January 4, 2013 at 4:57 pm

    Miranda, I have often wondered the same thing about my daughter, bc I took 2 rounds of antibiotics during her first two months, oh how I regret it! I was in a new-mom haze. She has struggled with several allergies and eczema to this day (she’s 14 mos) and I often wonder if I caused or contributed with those antibiotics I took.

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  33. Reading this article and people getting lax about taking their FCLO…I am going to go take mine because I too have been lax!

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  34. Juliana Sutton via Facebook January 4, 2013 at 2:01 pm

    Sheena Davies there are several natural, effective remedies for mastitis; Blue Violet Leaf tea, citrus essential oils, and an awesome herbal combo called Happy Ducts by WishGarden herbs. Also, repeated mastitis infections can result from a lack of silica (a mineral) in the diet. For more info you are welcome to contact me via fb or the store I manage ~ Indigo Forest (734) 994~8010 ~ we are a holistic family store located in Ann Arbor, MI.

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  35. Corey N Mindy Bauder via Facebook January 4, 2013 at 1:58 pm

    Colloidal Silver is one of the strongest antibiotics in nature. I’ve used it to treat infected wisdom teeth prior to teeth removal, sinus infections, pink eye, etc. Great stuff and it will not damage your healthy gut flora!

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  36. Ginger, thanks…been taking good probiotics for years; avoided sugars, seen great nutritionists and alternative docs. Candida is just overly persistent and especially reactive to fermented foods…likely started after a double round of Cipro and Bactrim 5 years ago.

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  37. Rebecca Vander Weit Campbell via Facebook January 4, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    Where would you all suggest I purchase fermented cod liver oil? Any online resources?

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    • Green Pastures is company in America that makes fclo. There website it greenpastures.org. There are other sites who carry some of their products, but, of course, are not as comprehensive.

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    • Yes, through Metametrix you can get a GI Function Profile. Find a doc at their website (metametrix.com) and then shop for one who will order the test and allow you to pay the lab up front. That way it’s as cheap as it gets.

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  38. Morgaine Donohue via Facebook January 4, 2013 at 1:03 pm

    Speaking of, Im on a round of augmentin right now. I noticed a rash last night on the sides of my face, around my ears, and as of today its spread to my temples. Is that normal?

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  39. Ginger Jilek via Facebook January 4, 2013 at 1:02 pm

    Chris- if you can’t tolerated fermented food or cod liver oil, I would suggest a lot of wild caught fish, flax seeds, chia seeds(all for your Omega 3) organic free-range eggs (for your vit A and D), and probiotics until your candida can get under control. Avoid all sugars!

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  40. Lindsey Miller via Facebook January 4, 2013 at 12:47 pm

    Efje use h2o2 dilute to three percent and gargle it will pull the infection out! It does work I have tried it and I didn’t need a dentist!! Although if I didn’t do that it would have been a filling..
    Order it from amazon Bobbys brand I use costs ten quid and you can use it for so much!

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  41. Sarah Couture Pope via Facebook January 4, 2013 at 12:44 pm

    Amanda Ruth That’s a great way to say it .. using antibiotics mindfully. Doctors and patients alike just knee jerk and go to the meds without considering the ramifications down the road. Nothing wrong with antibiotics .. they are truly a wonder class of drugs but we need to not get complacent and use them without vigilance and prudence.

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  42. Tonya Jones via Facebook January 4, 2013 at 12:39 pm

    Efje read the book Cure Tooth Decay. I recently had an abscess on a tooth that had a crown (very painful) they recommended that I have the tooth removed. Instead I cut out refined sugars/grains, took probiotics and cod liver oil and it healed :)

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  43. Sheena Davies via Facebook January 4, 2013 at 12:32 pm

    I have problems with chronic mastitis that doesn’t clear up without abx :( I hate hearing things like this and I don’t know what I can do differently. Weaning is not an option

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    • I got mastitis so bad that my chest was so full of infection my chest popped out the side, it was bigger than a quarter. I healed it with taking 1000 grams of vitamin c every hour for a couple of days. I did slippery elm packs three times a day, oils that you would think would be good for the infection, and soaking in the tub three times a day in Epsom salt, right after the slippery elm pack. I also ate more fruits and vegetables, and I think I did a apple cider vinegar pack too… It was a lot of work, but payed off.. Oh And lots and lots off rest!!!!

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      • When I had mastitis first time, I called the on-call physician at our local hospital and he diagnosed it OVER THE PHONE and prescribed antibiotics. I asked at least 3 times whether he wanted to examine me to make sure that was what it was, answer: no. I felt worse than before I called as I was desparate not to use antibiotics. It occurred to me to call a natural health clinic. It was Sat and a doc (naturopath) was in and said he’d need to see me to confirm I had mastitis and made time to do so as I felt that bad. He spend over half an hour wih me (way longer than ny doctor I’d ever been to before) evaluating me. He prescribed a homeopathic remedy specific to my constitution. I did the warm castor oil compress he also recommended and took my homeopathic remedy and slept. Within two hours the mastitis was gone! No antibiotics necessary. I used it again when I started to get mastitis at a much later date and it worked instantly. Now I use homeopathy for everything (has to be prescribed for you specifically) by a trained homeopath, as it is NOT a one-size-fits-all formula like regular drugs. I cannot recommend it enough. It has always worked on my daughter with colds etc. as well :D.

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        • I seem to get mastitis a few times with every child… I have four now. The first time I took antibiotics and was told to wean my 18 month old. It was absolute torture. I have since learned to recognize when mastitis might be coming on, and use alternative methods. First, I just nurse through the pain. The mastitis is not as bad if the breast is empty. Next, I use warm compresses. I favor a strong solution of chamomile tea. Chamomile is naturally antibacterial. I soak the cloth in the hot tea, and then hold it to the breast until it starts to cool off. I repeat this several times. If I don’t catch the mastitis early, sometime I will have to use oil of oregano internally to fight off the infection, along with the warm compresses.

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          • I used a cabbage leaf compress with great results. Simply blanch cabbage leaves, put on your breast with a towel and leave it there. I would replace it every couple of hours, and I continued breast feeding. It was better within a few hours and gone by the next day.

  44. Nicole Bialko via Facebook January 4, 2013 at 12:31 pm

    Brittany, doTERRA is a company that sells essential oils. You hear the name a lot because they have a lot of consultants around (like Pampered Chef, etc). I’ve heard they are good quality, but I was a bit put off by their “Certified Pure Therapeutic Grade” mark because it makes it sound like some authoritative third-party is approving them but really if you look around on their site you find where they admit its a label they gave themselves to represent the “quality” they offer. Nothing wrong with that, just rubs me the wrong way. I buy from another company that I’ve found to have very good quality but is half the price. ;)

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    • If you understand the CPTG it is simply a mark of the consistent potency and purity of doTERRA’s essential oils. The plants/oils are sourced indigenously and always harvested at their peak, and only the part that contains the highest quality of the oil is harvested. CPTG is a new standard of excellence. More than that, it is a guarantee to customers that they can depend on getting consistently high quality essential oils. From one batch to the next the potency will be the same. The third party testing is rigorous and offers a high level of comfort to users. CPTG means there are no fillers, inorganics or undesirable trace elements, just pure essential oil. It is a higher standard and level of testing. Many oils are recommended for aromatic or topical use, but not internal. Why is that? I find it very troubling. Are there perhaps undesirable trace elements or fillers in the oil that might be harmful if ingested orally? I find it alarming that people don’t realize that those same elements will be ingested when inhaled aromatically and absorbed through yours skin when applied topically. I find CPTG a great comfort and wouldn’t use anything else.

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  45. Sarah Couture Pope via Facebook January 4, 2013 at 12:17 pm

    Lauren Snyder Grosz I totally agree .. it is so easy to let that daily dose slip. My husband got lax this year and got a nasty chest infection that no one else in the house got (because the rest of us were taking our dose!). He got over it without any drugs thankfully using just alternative methods but he won’t get lax again because the next time might not be so lucky.

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  46. Lauren Snyder Grosz by the way, you can be thankful that your daughter responded to amoxicillin which is a mild antibiotic. If she had had many rounds of antibiotics in the past, it is likely that it would not have worked and she would have needed stronger meds and multiple courses of antibiotics. So good for you for making sure she hardly ever had antibiotics prior to her pneumonia.

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  47. Kimball Duncan Young via Facebook January 4, 2013 at 12:09 pm

    How would you recommend someone deal with preventing problems from the drugs needed for surgery and detoxing afterward?

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    • Prior to WWII, when the pentagon made penicillin widely available, vitamin A from cod liver oil was considered to be an effective anti-infective. (Just learned this from Chris Masterjohn’s excellent research).

      My cousin’s son had pneumonia and was given antibiotics. Two years later, this formerly handsome boy now has disfiguring cystic acne. My daughter, who was a healthy athlete in high school, was prescribed augmentin for an ear infection, and has been struggling to recover from a crippling rheumatoid arthritis. Not sure the antibiotic caused the RA, but it might be a contributor.

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  48. Trish Terry via Facebook January 4, 2013 at 12:02 pm

    We use DoTerra essential oils in this house instead of antibiotics! Please send me a message if you need more information on how to use them!

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  49. My daughter is 11 and has only had one prior round of antibiotics. This Christmas she was diagnosed with bacterial pneumonia and was on Amoxicillin for 10 days. I’ve been really focused on getting her to eat lots of fermented veggies. I’d love to hear your thoughts on how to deal with this type of illness sans antibiotics. Thank you in advance.

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    • There are two things we’ve found really helpful for our kids coughs/colds, and one of those has been used to treat pneumonia successfully! The Biocueuticals Immune Factors (elderberry & zinc) is great for shortening the length & severity of coughs and colds. The Dr Chris’ Lung & Bronchial Formula is the BEST one for lung support we’ve come across. It’s helped resolve pneumonia and other respiratory issues, and has strengthened our microprems lungs (damaged from his early birth and all the time on ventilation). And sometimes, we just have to use the antibiotics. My son especially has had quite a few courses in his life so far. Not ideal, but they are livesaving at times! :-)

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  50. Efje Schmidt via Facebook January 4, 2013 at 11:55 am

    How would you get the infection out of a tooth abscess? (for my sis) We tried everything I know and still had to use antibiotics :(

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    • Efje – My son has a cap on one of his teeth that gives him fits, abscess every other month or so. We use two drops of Oil of Oregano in a small cup of water – swish until he can’t any longer and then swallow. When he starts to get a fever from it I add some colloidal silver to the mix and do this a few times each day. He also scrubs over it with his toothbrush and homemade toothpaste with coconut oil it and when it gets large he trys to push the pus out – ick!! We are trying to keep the tooth in there until it is ready to fall out. We’ve also started eating ghee and grass-fed butter along with Fermented Cod Liver Oil it help heal from the inside. Hope this helps!

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      • Efje: Olive Leaf works very well for chronic infections. You can use capsules or liquid, depending on the infection. Sometimes both can be used at the same time. You can mix the liquid olive leaf (available online from iherb.com or Vitacost – cheap) in warm water and gargle/swish it in the mouth, you can put some (straight) onto your finger and rub it onto the tooth area, too. Olive leaf capsules can help to heal the gut, too, by opening the capsule and sprinkling it onto your food – works ok with salads, I haven’t tried anything else. I used the liquid for an infected toenail several years ago and it worked beautifully. It works fairly quickly, too.

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    • I use high doses of Blue ice fermented cod liver oil, and a tea of a Chinese herb called She Gan with my patients with good results. Take a handful She Gan root (6-8 slices) rinse and boil on medium boil in 4 cups of water for 30 minutes. Drink warm and swish the tea around in the mouth. Obviously absolutely no sugar including fruit and honey.
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  51. Sara Stewart Vanderbilt via Facebook January 4, 2013 at 11:54 am

    I had a dr just give us some to “kill everything in her system” before she even had an infection (?). No thank you.

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  52. Casey Staats via Facebook January 4, 2013 at 11:51 am

    I took antibiotics for FOUR years to treat Lyme Disease. I regret it now, as I believe they robbed me of my fertility. Prior to taking abx, I was able to conceive my two children quite easily. After abx, I have been unable to get pregnant.

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    • we are currently battling lyme with antibiotics (in my husband). Looking for alternatives. For now they are keeping symptoms at bay but the idea of doing this long term makes me incredibly uneasy to say the least because I get the gut issue. We are finding amazing healers who are doing incredible things with Lyme (and other chronic diseases) that involve much less antibiotic but most do use some.

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      • I don’t have lyme and am not an expert, but I’ve heard Stephen Harrod Buhner has a lyme healing protocol that is herbal and apparently works well. You’ve probably looked/heard of everything, but maybe that could be useful. :)

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      • The Yahoo group Lymestrategies may have some ideas for non-drug treatments of Lyme. I haven’t been there for a few years, but it was a very active group that discussed Lyme disease and other tick-borne infections and related illnesses, with an emphasis on alternative therapies.

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      • Our naturopathic physician is treating my son with A-BAB, by Byron White formulas, to treat Lyme. It can be a long process, but no antibiotics!

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      • I am an acupuncturist who 10 years ago got a tick bite with the classic red ring, and did a few weeks of Chinese antibiotic herbs along with 2 rounds of a parasite cleanse kit by Renee Ponder Herbs, the best parasite kit I’ve found. My husband also got 3 ticks deeply embeded all with the red rings 3 years ago. He did the same thing, and both of us got no signs of Lymes disease. Nature has remedies for our ailments. We need to trust the natural approaches. It is good to get an acupuncturist you trust and let her/him help guide you through this.

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