Child Suspended from School for Kombucha in Lunchbox

by Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist October 12, 2012

The lunch police have struck again.

First, there was the story of a preschooler at West Hoke Elementary School in North Carolina who was given a highly processed, cafeteria lunch containing pink slime chicken nuggets on January 30, 2012 because the school decided that the turkey and cheese sandwich, banana, potato chips, and apple juice her mother packed was not nutritious enough.

Now comes the story of an elementary school boy from Newport Beach, California who was suspended from school this week for the kombucha in his lunchbox that school administration said violated the school district’s drug and alcohol policy.

The boy’s mother contacted me 2 days ago the very afternoon her son was suspended in a plea to help her resolve the situation.

The trouble apparently started because the kombucha drink was packed in a glass bottle which is the appropriate container for this healthy, vitamin and probiotic filled beverage.  The mother even took care to safely place the glass bottle in a foam sleeve as I’ve demonstrated in my videos which is exactly what I do for my own children so that if the bottle is dropped, it would not break and cause harm.  It is important to note that the mother had sent kombucha to school in her son’s lunch many times before with no problem.

When the lunch police noticed the glass bottle safely tucked into the foam sleeve in the child’s lunchbox, they confiscated it.  The next morning, the boy was called into the Vice Principal’s office and interrogated about the drink and where he got it.  The school even called in the Police Officer assigned to work with all the schools in the area.

The Police Officer told the boy that the kombucha was illegal and very dangerous if he takes any medications – antibiotics or anything.  Then, the officer asked the boy point blank if he takes any medicines.

Most outrageously, the Vice Principal told the boy that he may have to transfer out of that school and that she was looking into it.  She even tried to enroll him in an alcoholics class for teens!   The boy ended up spending the entire day in the school office and then was suspended for 5 days for violating the school’s drug and alcohol policy.  The issue was also reported to the Newport-Mesa School District.  Lest the school or the district deny the child was suspended or try to spin the story, the boy did indeed SIGN a 5 day suspension form.

It is important to note that these events took place without the school even attempting to test the alcoholic content of the kombucha or conducting due diligence of any kind which would have revealed that kombucha is a healthy beverage similar to apple cider and clearly not the equivalent of beer or wine.

The child’s distraught mother managed to get a meeting with the school’s Vice Principal the next morning who informed her that the Principal had decided to retract the suspension and not pursue the issue further.  The child was then immediately allowed to return to school.

Unfortunately, the incident had already been reported to the Newport-Mesa school district so it is possible that the parents of the boy could face additional disciplinary action if the school district decides to pursue the matter.

The worst aspect of this incident is the extreme embarrassment, emotional trauma and shame the child no doubt experienced for being called out by the lunch police and then interrogated like a criminal the next day by school administration and even a uniformed Police Officer!

When I talked to the Vice Principal on the phone yesterday, she acted as if the incident was minor and that everything had been resolved satisfactorily.  What?  Giving a child the third degree in the school office with a Police Officer standing by and no parent present to defend him is no minor scene!

This incident could have far reaching implications for the child’s emotional state and could even result in bullying or snide remarks from classmates for years to come!

For all you traditional cooking Moms and Dads out there who also send healthy homemade foods and drinks in your child’s lunch, it may prove worthwhile to have a discussion with your children about this story and what to do should school administration ever harass them about the contents of their lunchbox.

I will keep tabs on this story in the coming days and if the Newport-Mesa School District decides to do something ridiculous like pursue disciplinary action against this family, I will be sure to let you all know so that the phone lines can light up and public pressure exerted to restore sanity to the situation.

**Update:  Following the publishing of this article, the Newport-Mesa School District issued a press release regarding this incident.  Click here for the full transcript and rebuttal.

 

Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

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  22. Okay, so they backed off. There is still the matter of a police officer lying (aka perjuring) himself, by advising the child that something about which the officer knew NOTHING was an illegal and dangerous substance. That officer certainly needs to be disciplined.

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  23. No surprise in how ignorant people in positions of power can be. If I had to argue this case, I would bring in scientific evidence that most fruit juices contain more naturally occurring alcohol than kombucha. We don’t hesitate to give kids a big glass of apple or grape juice now do we? The more I study it, the more I am convinced that we have become a society of sports worshiping, brainless, TV watching, worthless zombies. Doesn’t anyone voice some rage anymore? I can’t be the only one who finds this kind of story outrageous. Speak out sheeple!!

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    • What next: laws prohibiting beer at schools? The tyranny of not allowing young children to drink alcoholic drinks at school reminds me of Jefferson’s drunken
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  42. Kombucha does contain alcohol…so if that is ok with you, you can give your child kombucha at home, but schools are obligated by law to ban any alcoholic beverages.

    I am currently drinking my own homemade kombucha.

    If you want to blame anyone, blame the law which makes alcoholic beverages (even of a low amount) illegal. Schools have to follow the laws, don’t they?

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    • Correctly prepared kombucha has all the sugar converted by bacteria into beneficial organic acids instead of having the yeasts feeding on sugar and converting it into alcohol. If you do not know what you are doing, yeah, your proverbial “yeast patty” is going to make beer out of your sweet tea solution. Anyone who is competent in making their own kombucha is not going to have alcohol in the finished drink.

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  45. Having been born and raised in Newport Beach, I can honestly say that this is far from surprising. Ignorance and abuse on this scale is the status quo in that town.

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  46. Ok it sounds like the school may have gone overboard and could have treated this different like talking with the Mom and given her a list banned drinks and a warning.
    I tried One of these drinks and It wasn’t for me tasted like Vinegar anyways The label indicates it has alcohol in it even though it might not be alot its still mentions alcohol and any products with alcohol are not allowed so you have to abide by the schools rules but not allowing the child to return to the school over one drink is obsurd! As a Mom of a toddler I would not knowingly give my child products with alcohol and one must be careful when giving a child fermented un-Unpasteurized sometimes these health drinks hinder not help.

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  47. Perhaps the Nazis (Ie murders of millions) are not the police or administrators but the parents failing to realize that Kombucha does contain alcohol, and it varies…from brand to brand and batch to batch. In California, the stronger brands have over the legal amount of alcohol and thus they are labeled Must be 21 to Purchase: contains alcohol.

    If that offends you, you should work to change the alcohol standards in your community.

    Calling people Nazis who are trying (even if misguidedly) to protect the child is something only a Nazi could do. In California, if a child brings a brand of Kombucha to school which is over the alcohol limit, the law dictates that it should be prohibited. If you don’t like the law, change it….but calling people Nazis is not only Nazi in style but when you call someone such names (sometimes it IS appropriate for mass murders) is the last way to win them over to your viewpoint.

    American cops tend to be rather fascistic, as a norm, but many are very friendly and professional. Lumping all together (i.e. stereotyping) is in fact a key feature to the propaganda efforts of Nazi regimes. All Jews are……..all liberals are…….all Muslims are….all home schoolers are…………….this is the rhetoric of fascism,racism, and oppression.

    To see this rhetoric used to indict people who were dealing with the FACT that kombucha does have alcohol, and in some cases it violates the legal limits…..just makes me sigh…..

    Here’s a solution: find out from the manufacturer what the alcohol content of your kombucha is and see if it meets legal limits. If it does, show that to the school so they are not afraid they are ignoring the law which prohibits alcoholic beverages to little kids.

    It is easy to call someone a Nazi; it takes a little more effort to understand the others’ point of view and try to deal with the obligations they feel. The problem in public schools is not teachers or administrators but parents who would rather denounce them than work with them.

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  48. I do agree that this is ridiculous. From the experiences I had in elementary and middle school, the teachers and administrators are power-hungry busybodies. With that being said though and if I were the mom, I would send the kid to school with a healthy lunch and unopened bottled water from this point on and let him have the kombucha at home. If the school lunch nazis want to target him again, then it’s time to get a lawyer involved.

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  51. I am generally quite satisfied with having been a public high school teacher for most of my life. Sadly, there are times, like today,
    when I am so very ashamed of the way those in charge of high schools unnecessarily abuse the rights of the students.
    The boy who was threatened with discipline for having a bottle of kombucha tea because it contained 0.5 percent of alcohol, a quantity consistent
    with the vanilla extract used in making muffins, will learn the very sad lesson that schools that claim to teach rationality do not
    act rationally. In many cases hard core adherence to zero-tolerance policies does more harm to young people than would be the case if
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    a very harmful manifestation of zero-tolerance.

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    • I was in school long ago now, but when i was in 5th grade “The Peanuts” (Charlie Brown) cookbook was banned because it called for Vanilla Extract, which was alcoholic.

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  52. BC (and anyone else who might be interested): Read “NEA: Trojan Horse In American Education” by Samuel Blumenfeld. I think this book offers the best history of American public education, bar none (and that includes Gatto and Iserbyt, both terrific as well). It’s an absolute eye-opener. Without a good grasp of where we came from and why, we can’t possibly understand where we are, let alone know how to proceed.

    If anyone else has read Blumenfeld’s book, I’d love to know what you thought of it.

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  53. My what a crazy response from the teachers and others at that school. I felt anxiety reading this-I wouldn’t have thought that teachers ,etc could be so ignorant and cause such trouble to a kid.

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  54. It is a say day indeed when we should inform our children to say nothing until their parents arrive on the scene. That day is now here. The police are not our friends, have no legal obligation to protect us and are trained to lie. Please remove your children from the government indoctrination centers that are run by a bunch of brain dead products of government control and teachers’ unions.

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  56. Abbi, they didn’t interogate (sic) a preschooler….they took his home lunch away and gave him chicken. It was an elementary student who was questioned. Before you call people idiots, it would be wise to get your facts straight.

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  57. I can’t believe they interogated a preschooler like he was a college grad! how the hell is he supposed to know what they were talking about? all that kid probably knew is a police officer was going to take him to jail over her drink. I mean your a little kid, the grown ups take your drink, sad its bad, and ask if you are on medications and how the hell are you suposed to know? and they want you to leave school and go to a place with teenagers and a police officer is in the room, are you going to jail? oh no!

    this is beyond stupid. you don’t talk to a little kid like he’s a grownup. thats why parents sign contact sheets. “hello mam’n we don’t know much about kombucha and the glass bottle scares us, and we think its some kind of alcohol, by the way is he on antibiotics?”
    geeze people are idiots.

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    • All trolls are leftists. Only rightwingers are pure, racially and ideologically. Take your child out of those communistic mixed race schools and keep them from mixing with minorities and other undesirable types. All public school officials are fascists!

      All governmeet workers are commies. The global elite of Rothschild bankers controls you local public schools. Thomas Jefferson said that public education will be the ruin of democracy, which is why his proudest achievement was the fouinding of the University Virginia.

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  58. Sheilla Paige via Facebook October 15, 2012 at 12:32 pm

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  60. The mom and child should forget being angry and sue the &%*( out of the school, principal, and police officer involved. They should put a video on the internet describing everything that happened and we should all help spread it. The principal’s contact information should be given and he/she should be removed. The tyrants will do things like this as long as they know they can. Ordinary citizens must tell them they CAN’T.

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    • In my career as a public school teacher, I found that the administration ovesrreacted precisely because of parents constantly threatening to sue them over minor issues. As a result, they react defensively. Those making the threats are the ones causing the
      behavior they are whining about.

      Schools, like corporations or families, make mistakes. You can fix a mistake without suing someone (making them even more paranoid or calling them a Nazi.

      And calling someone who disagrees a leftist troll is clearly bigotry, as it substitutes a prejudiced stereotype for a counterargument. Working with the schools achieves far more than making threats and spewing hate-speech. Schools are still locally run. If you don’t like the Board, elect new members. If you disagree with a school’s policy, talk with them about it. No one has ever been persuaded by being called a Nazi.

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        • <<<Schools, like corporations or families, make mistakes. You can fix a mistake without suing someone

          Not in my experience. (regarding public school officials).

          I've tried that. Suing is the only thing these public school officials understand to get them to quit being so abusive by suspending and arresting innocent students.

          When did it become against the law to have your own natural colored hair you were born with???

          That is discrimination based on race (genetics).

          although the public schols then claim it's not discrimination aginst race. They didn't suspend the school for his/her race (genetics), they suspended him/her for having a hair color at school the rules say aren't allowed it at school.

          That it doesn't matter if it's his/her natural undyed hair, It's still a prohibited hair color.

          Oh yeah, and dying your hair any color (blonde, brown, etcetera) is also against the school rules since dyed hair isn't allowed period. Wearing a wig is also against the school rules. Shaving all your hair off (the only other way these pareents and kids with prohibited natural hair can think of to obey the rule) is also against the school rules and prohibited and also gets them suspended.

          so just exactly what are these kids whose natural hair and natural hair color are progibited and against school rules supposed to do???????

          Despite what the public schools claim, that IS indeed discrimination based on genetics. (race).

          though they claim it isn't since there's other kids of the same race who don't have that hairr color naturally.

          Yes it IS discrimination based on genetics.

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  61. I’m not sure I get the people on this site! Yes there are reasons to home school. And yes there are countless schools that are bad but its the way that you all assume that every parent is a good responsible teacher. All parents aren’t created equal. It seems that by the posts here that every home schooler is gonna grow up and cure cancer?! I said this earlier but for every well mannered thoughtful-beyond-their-years home schooled kid I’ve met, I have also met an equal number of socially inept, undisciplined idiots who’s parents think they’re little darlings. And did I mention the Creationism freaks among your ranks?? I’m sure most of you are doing right by your children just as I believe most schools are doing right by their students. But this alternate universe you live in where communist have taken over our schools and are brainwashing our children and feeding them Twinkies for lunch, borders on crazy! I also said this earlier but it bears repeating. There are many reasons why a parent would choose to home school, so I am not lumping everyone in the same group. But to those who stated that their reasoning for taking their kid out of public schools, is because of people like the principle, you are as big an idiot as the guy in the article! I’ve found that most people home schooled or public school educated seem to think they are smarter than they are! If they didn’t do so well in school, the school is broken. If they don’t do well on tests, the tests are skewed. If they had disciplinary problems, they school doesn’t understand creative types. Dumb people are dumb, and smart people are smart! Where you are schooled may help you better utilize those skills but it won’t change person underneath. But hey since you live in this bubble of yours, there’s probably no one there to tell you how stupid you sound!

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    • BC you sound very frustrated over an exchange that should have been very simple. There are good home schoolers, parents and public schools, and there are bad home schoolers, parents and public schools. A difference of opinions. You speak against stereotyping and “lumping” people into categories but that’s what you have done in reference to not getting the people on this site. Sad how someone who is an adult can’t communicate in a respectful manor at least in writing where you are provided the opportunity to stop, think about it, and proof read you’re responses. “Creationist freaks?!” Very disrespectful wether you are the product of a private, public, or home schooling setting.

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      • Did you proofread this response? My tone has been disrespectful. To those who have been disrespectful.(Except for a tin foil hat comment) If you believe in creationism…. yes I lump you with birthers, those who believe Armageddon is just around the corner(every year it seems the world is about to end), those who think Christ was Jesus’s last name, those who believe George Bush brought down the towers, those who think the moon landing was fake and yes, even those who still think the world is flat. Is that disrespectful? Maybe, but I find the whole creationism thing disrespectful. Science and religion aren’t enemy’s. You can be a devout Christian and still believe in science.
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        I will resist because now no one else is commenting and I’ve been stuck in a conference room for the last two weeks. At first I just found the comments hilarious and was having a little fun(and I’m still having fun). But the amount of people who wanted to engage was overwhelming and if you check out some of their post, you might find a few things that might be construed as offensive. I did make several generalizations, sometimes to prove a point, and at others times just to tease the other person. If you were offend by that, I apologize. I WAS WRONG! But I stand by the points I was making.

        PS- I can’t believe I’m the only one here commenting via cell phone. Do you have any idea how hard it is to scroll up in a box no bigger than a centimeter, then try to poke at the place you want to correct with fat fingers. Sheeesh! And yes, i’m sure sheeesh is spelled incorrectly. :0)

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        • You are all over he place. Why does my religious belief have anything to do with Kambucha being served in public schools and what has happened to this little boy? Or if I think some of your comments have been rude and disrespectful? Seems like you just like to debate. I’m sorry, but I honestly, just am not going to make the time for it and their would be no purpose in it. My mind wouldn’t be changed. Would yours? In response to above, I am a Christian, who believes in Jesus Christ (not really sure what kind of CHRISTian doesn’t??) and I also believe in science. I’ve seen it prove my beliefs over and over again. I personally find the belief that NOTHING exploded and created everything, or magic space rain rained on rocks for millions or years leading to the creation of everything we have today, disrespectful. So I guess me must agree to disagree. Happy blogging. :)

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        • I think you mean ” Jesus’ ” (plural possessive) and “enemies” (more than one) not “enemy’s” (belonging to the enemy.) There’s a great book, “Strunk and White” that does a great job of explaining English usage. The better people understand you, the easier it will be to change the world for the better! (Sent from my iPhone, BTW.)

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          • Now post 40 times. Then we can talk. But that was a pretty clever post. Short but witty. I’m guessing people understood. They just don’t like what I’m saying. I like the BTW too. ;0)

            MK you are right. I won’t change your mind and you won’t change mine. I do luv to debate, but I’m not sure that’s what we were doing. But I do have good news for everyone here! I have been freed from my conference room jail! So say good night to the bad guy! I am now having a stiff drink. Feel free to talk about me when I’m gone, because I know I’m talking about you. This has been highly entertaining and informative! I now have a few good books to read(once I learn how to read). I got advice on grammar and I received a science lesson from a creationist. Not a bad week after all! I will leave you with a little somethin’ somethin’ my mother used to tell me. If you can’t openly state and discuss your opinion out of fear of ridicule, then maybe it’s time to question what you believe. An opinion that can’t stand up to scrutiny or ridicule, isn’t an opinion worth having. Have a blessed one. :0)

      • You asked a question in a post above and I didn’t respond rudely. And you should proof your own posts before criticizing mine. Principle vs principal. I made the same mistake and I’m going to give you the benefit of doubt, and assume while typing, you missed the “a” and auto correct changed it for you.
        And I have never been very good at turning the other cheek.

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  62. I attended public schools through college and also taught special eductation in publicschools. I think students need both a socialized educational setting (there is nothing like a good discussion with students from various backgrounds or opinions to stimulate the desire to learn more and sharpen critical thinking skills and expressive ability) and homeschooling.

    My public education, from very humble schools, which gave me the ability to succeed at the excellent University of California at Berkeley, gave me the skills and knowledge to earn a fellowship to Harvard Graduate School of Government. At the same time, I always learned from my brothers and parents at home. One of my kids is a college graduate; the other opted out in his first year of high school. Both are successful, with the dropout now running a successful small corporation.

    Those who trash public education often don’t know what they are talking about, as they lump all schools and teachers together. There are many excellent public schools, and many bad ones, just as there are many sincere homeschooling parents and some who do a bad job. The sad fact is that schools reflect the communities they serve; in poor, trashed communities, the schools tend to be chaotic; in affluent communities, the schools often are at an elite private school level. Believe me, I have taught in both.

    One of the great advantages of public (or private) schools is the exposure to excellent teachers. In my life, my great inspirations were a few teachers who motivated me to excell and reach for the stars. I had some bad teachers too. But the lasting influence were those extraordinary teachers who gave me encouragement and spurred my educational aspirations.

    There is no war between public education, which Jefferson saw as the foundation of democracy, and homeschooling, which utilizes the passion of interested parents to educate their kids. Often the reason for homeschooling is religion; I don’t see why you can’t learn algebra or physics (which few parents are qualifed to teach) at school and learn religion in church and at home. The public education scene allows students to mix and learn from others of different religions, backgrounds, etc. This exposure to diversity, lacking in exclusive home schooling, is one of the great virtues of public education and is the reason that it is the keystone of a democratic society.

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  64. I live here in Newport Beach and my son goes to here as well. My brother sends me these types of government invasive tactic kind of emails often. I couldn’t believe that it was in Newport. I don’t know…it’s always shocking when it happens in your own backyard. I am facebooking this and letting every Mom I see know about it!

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  65. The Powers that be that are now in charge of our executive branch, are the lunch Nazis. They are the ones pushing all this nonsense.
    They, and the United Nations want to take all of your parental rights away from you.

    I suggest you all read up on what the UN, and the US Dept of Education, and FDA, are doing to you and your children..right under your noses!

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  66. The primary point is missed in this story. Modern schools are child abuse. The bullying, etc was mentioned as an effect of this ‘incident’ – not the fact that an environment where bullying could occur for being ‘different’ was ‘normal’. ‘Schools’ primary functions are as indoctrination centers; bullying and ‘peer pressure’ is part of that ‘progrom’. Education is a secondary consideration.

    I am reminded of the dog-owners who spoon-fed the melamine-laced, Chinese, toxic dog food to their pets as they were dying – not knowing that it was the food that waskilling them. In this case, schools ARE the harm, and parents fail to realize that they cannot be ever ‘help’ a child, because they were designed with the primary purpose of prepare children to die in war to protect a rich King’s overseas investments. Get you children out of school-torture facilities and form neighborhood cooperatives of like-minded parents.

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  67. the real problem here is that when facing these pre-programed tyrants, we talk about how there is EMOTIONAL TRAUMA and the CHILDS MENTAL STATE COULD BE HARMED, when mentioning our defense of such evil behavior. when the only true emotion the child or the parents should have is ANGER. NOT hurt feelings, this is a true problem within our society, IT must be fixed, we must change this way of thinking or all will forever be lost.

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  68. School police can stick it! My 6 yr old takes her lunch, she’s a huge fan or roasted seaweed chips, which are awesome and loaded with even more awesomeness, and she came home one day and said a teacher told her she couldn’t eat her seaweed. When I asked what the teacher said, my daughter said “the teacher said, don’t eat that, I don’t want to see it!”
    The nerve! I volunteered in the lunch room the next day, the teacher wasn’t there, but I let the principal know how ridiculous it was.

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  69. So, you’re mad at the school? Need I mention that the parents in question are sending their child to a government run institutionalized indoctrination center? And they were dumb enough to break the rules? Are we really suprised that in today’s overreactive nanny-culture police state that there was overreaction? Also, are we aware that this whole stupid episode could have been avoided by using a thermos? Just Sayin’

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    • <<<Also, are we aware that this whole stupid episode could have been avoided by using a thermos? Just Sayin’

      no it couldn't. From what I read, most public schools have now banned having theremos's also.

      The students are not allowed to bring any from home or anywhere else.

      And are not allowed to have any at school, either,

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  71. OK, I am about as libertarian and health-minded as they come, BUT why are people so stupid? Can’t you sheeples just act normal? Why Kombucha? Give your kid some healthy veggies and fruits and fresh fruit juice. Why even subject him to get bullied like that or be the weird kid that brings a glass bottle sippy cup to lunch? I have a theory that most of the problems on this earth are best exemplified by examples like this. The school admin are totally in the wrong for infringing on the child’s rights and for following the Rothschild agenda to hurt us in every way possible. BUT, come on, the mother is a complete idiot too. This example also illustrates why people hate Californians (both the nosy admin and the overly-crunchy mother who probably does not put as much effort into making sure her son knows logic or can read/write.) sorry to rant, but you know I’m right. Just act normal people. Please. The world depends on it. And please, eat kombucha in your homes, not out in the open so you can show everyone how health conscious you are.

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    • Matt, my libertarian comrade, you have, in your post, made totally unrelated anti-
      Semitic allusions, as well as claiming, as do all people who live in shitty places, that Californians are hated. Why is California the most populous state, if people hate us?

      Rednecks, racists, and grumps hate Californians. But if you have ever traveled throughout the world, you will find that when you tell people you are from California, their eyes light up and they smile. Perhaps in the Old Confederacy, Californians over half of whom are not “white”) are hated. Perhaps it’s sour grapes at living in a craphole; perhaps its hating minorities; perhaps it’s just needing a scapegoat to hate for reasons of self-loathing.

      Kombucha is full of probiotics and very healthy. To argue that a mother, because she gives her child healthy food out of arrogance, should not have them take Kombucha to school, is to promote an absurdity based on a lie. Parents give their kids healthy food because they care about their health.

      But blaming the “Rothchild agenda (code word alert: anti-Semistism)” and the much hated Californians and advising the mother not to show Komucha in public (as tho it were a form of dietary pornography)……is laughable.

      Come on Matt, you have never tried Komucha, never even seen it, but here was a chance to badmouth not only the “Rothchild agenda (gee what does that mean? Mandatory Komucha for school kids; health standards for school food?) but those
      goddamned Californians, with their education, their good jobs, their high pay, their unmatched beauty of landscape, their wonderful weather…yes, those bastards: we hate them. So lighten up and go Komuch….your digestive system will thank you. And if you are ever out here in California, please leave soon, as we don’t need more haters.

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  74. Maybe it is just me – but this just sounds hysterical on the school’s part.

    Is it possible we have so many rules and regs that we’ve created an atmosphere of craziness?

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  75. i live in a state (pennsylvania) where you cannot find alcohol anywhere outside of a bar, wine and spirits shop, beer distributor or beer deli. they sell kombucha in the franchise grocery store behind my house (price chopper) i believe below and to the left of the eggs. the level of ignorance some people exhibit in regards to this sort of thing is dumbfounding and concerning

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  76. Reminds me of a line from Pink Floyd’s, “The Wall”.

    ” LEAVE THEM KIDS ALONE! ”

    Seriously, folks, find some way, ANY WAY to get your beloved children the heck out of those nonsense schools! “Public Education” was the WORST idea of a control system to be envisioned by the likes of John Dewey! Real public education was when the local communities independently operated their loacl schools.

    Time is now to start thinking about those neighborhood schools where certain of your well-educated and straight-shot talking neighbors can be the best influence your children will need.

    Very, very sad days in this country a-commin’!

    ( And BTW: Kombucha Tea has never been made illegal in these United States as far as I’ve heard! )

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  77. I went to school in that very school district, and I am not surprised. It is Nazi country down there… thank God I got out of there halfway through high school. we just have to keep fighting back, they’re counting on us roll over and be good little sheep.

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  78. Yall should have seen the state troopers face when he found a baggy of multivitamins in my car while he was illegally searching it and harassing me.

    Thought it was a big bad drug bust, put me in cuffs for over an hour, grilled me, yelled at me, fingered and fondled all my multivitamins. Called in backup.

    What a waste of taxpayer money, try and hire some LAW ENFORCEMENT that has a bit more than a ROOM TEMPERATURE IQ.

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    • <<<Yall should have seen the state troopers face when he found a baggy of multivitamins in my car while he was illegally searching it and harassing me.

      Thought it was a big bad drug bust, put me in cuffs for over an hour, grilled me, yelled at me, fingered and fondled all my multivitamins. Called in backup.

      What a waste of taxpayer money, try and hire some LAW ENFORCEMENT that has a bit more than a ROOM TEMPERATURE IQ.

      okay, that scares me. Because my state has now passed a law where we MUST keep vitamins and medication in a baggy. They're not allowed to be in the original prescription container.

      Now I'm afraid we could get pulled over and arrested for it like you were with hours of interrogation also because 1. the cops don't know the laws that they are trying to enforce." 2. there are contradictory laws still on the books from before regarding this situation. 3. we're required to keep it in baggys even when we're in other states, but the other states' laws might require they be in the original prescriprion containers, which we can't even in the other state because it's against the law to have them in such in my state and therefore no way to bring them (the predscription containers) to the other states without violating the law in my state by having them in illegal original prescription containers in the car instead of the legal plastic baggies.

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  79. Last year, our local health food store had to take the Kombucha out of the case because of the high alcohol content. It was allowed back only when the alcohol had been reduced to legal limits. It was pretty powerful!

    Kombucha can have a high alcohol content….that is a fact. But if the state allows the stores to sell it, it should be legal at schools. I make my own kombucha….I don’t know the alcohol content. I can’t believe parents can kid their kids to drink kombucha….it is an acquired taste, it tastes like vinegar.

    As a teacher in San Jose, I asked the district nutritional chief if we teachers could occasionally be offered an organic salad. She said: the cost is prohibitive. I said: we are willing to pay more for organic. I got no support from anyone.

    Then I asked if we could have soup without meat (I and another teacher were vegans), and she said: we cannot obtain soup without meat. That response was so totally idiotic that I gave up completely. No one else cared. The food they served truely was crap. Everything came out of a can, and the kids preferred the off-campus prepared pizzas they sold. The nutrition chief said that they could only obtain what their vendor furnished.

    I was asked to believe that the district, in a city of one million, was unable to find a vendor who sold soup without meat. Within blocks of the school where I taught, there were many stores which sold soup without meat……oh forget it!

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  80. Please see the larger picture. This is about turning all the children into the property of the state. This is about destyroying all parents’ rights. This is why these incidents are happening all over rhe world with increasing regularity.

    David Icke has been writing about such things for 20 years and virtually everything he has had to say has or is coming true.

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    • <<<Please see the larger picture. This is about turning all the children into the property of the state. This is about destyroying all parents’ rights. This is why these incidents are happening all over rhe world with increasing regularity

      yes. you are correct. At first I thought it was just happening in the U.S., but then I noticed it's happening all over the world.

      Unfortunately, most people probably don't realize it's happening all over the world.

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  81. I doubt the kid suffered any trauma and was probably glad to get out of class for a day. Besides, its good training for learning how to live in the police state.

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  82. Everyone righteously indignant about this report should contact the vice principal of this school and reply some of the most scolding, unkind messages possible.

    -Uzziel-
    III

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  83. Jeffrey Von Stetteb October 13, 2012 at 7:02 pm

    This would be a great case for an attorney to take probono. Hopefully someone sees it here and signs on to help

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  84. Oh hell yeah, I would’ve ripped into that dipshit VP and made him give me money back for the drink he took. I would’ve given HIM the 3rd degree as to why he interrogated my son before contacting me. these idiot public school servants need to get a fucking life!

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  85. If my child ever experiences something like that, im getting a lawyer. ive been through things like that as a youth, and no one, not even a police officer, will tell my child what to do. if they do so, they will not only be told to shut their mouth, but i will protest that school and do whatever it takes to get that cops badge. if i only knew now what i knew then, i would not only have a few ignorant teachers fired, but a few ignorant police officers out of reign as well.

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  86. What is most chilling about this story is that it simply _has_ to be the case that the school officials were laying in wait for this opportunity – either because it had been observed that certain people were bringing Kombucha to school, or this specific child had been observed doing so. Someone had it in for him and his family. It seems like a stunt that fascists would pull – less to do with reason, or with the drink, than an overwhelming desire to do harm and to exert authority.

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  87. As a member of law enforcement, I get upset any time I read that a police officer ‘was used to intimidate’ somebody. More often, law enforcement is contacted as a part of the investigatory process not as an intimidation tool. That does NOT mean that I support what happened here. I do NOT! However, before you lump the officer into this whole mess, please realize that he/she was just doing his/her job. Believe me, officers do not agree with everything that they encounter. What really galls me is that people who label us as ‘intimidating’ have no problem pointing us out to their children in public and saying, “he/she is going to take you to jail if you don’t start behaving.” I’ve had this happen countless times and it sickens me.

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  88. As an educator who teaches in a public school (and has to do lunch duty and sees the horrible sugar and carbohydrate lunches kids bring from home), I am saddened to see so many comments criticizing public schools and educators in general because of this incident. Do I think the matter was handled properly? NO!!! Not by any stretch of the imagination. But does that warrant an all out attack on ALL public schools? I hardly think so. I’ve seen plenty of messed up, socially inept home schooled kids walking around. Should I protest against ALL home schooled children? NO! I believe parents have the right AND responsibility to educate their children however they best see fit, either personally or by proxy of a school system.

    What really bothers me is that so many are quick to use negative energy to criticize. Imagine the possibilities if the same people used their energy in a positive, proactive way.
    Join forces with others who are like minded. Educate the community. Enlighten school systems. Volunteer in your child’s school/classroom. Teach a community class about benefits of preparing healthy meals.

    The problem’s been identified. Just about anyone can rattle off a quick negative, cruel, reactive message. What good will that bring? Very little if any.

    But the strong in character will use this horrible situation as an opportunity to be the catalyst for meaningful positive change. So, put your money where your mouth is. Invest your time in becoming the solution to the problem. Help those who are less fortunate (and in this case, less educated about healthy foods) than you.

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    • <<<I am saddened to see so many comments criticizing public schools and educators in general because of this incident

      It's not just because of this incident. I've experience it firsthand in public schools all throughout my schoolyears.

      <<<But the strong in character will use this horrible situation as an opportunity to be the catalyst for meaningful positive change. So, put your money where your mouth is.

      I am. I've been silent on the issue for WAY WAY WAY too long. Not saying anything is just simply letting the abuses continue. Warning people by saying something and rebealing all the illegal abusess by the public schools, public school teachers, principals, adminstrators and staff is the correct thing to do.

      I will no longer be silent about it.

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    • <<<What really bothers me is that so many are quick to use negative energy to criticize. Imagine the possibilities if the same people used their energy in a positive, proactive way.
      Join forces with others who are like minded. Educate the community

      revealing the abuses committed by the public schools IS educating the community. So you are very obvuously against educating the community despite your statements otherwise.

      The public schools here (and I found out later also the public schools in other states and police departments ) have instituted the "see something say something" program REQUIRING students to report suspicious behabior they see 24/7 even off school campus off school hours even if those people don't attend that school and their activitties are completely legal (but the student thinks it's suspicious) to the public school staff who then calls the police on those individusuals. (and also REQUIRES the students to report illegal behavior they see.) So now in the U.S. you can get arrested for completely legal things you're doing just because a public school you do NOT attend since you're not a student and even if you're not a minor just because the principal and staff of that school consider it "suspocious behavior" like eating a bowl of grits, since they never seen that kind of food before.

      And since the schools say it's required to report these illegal activities under DHS, Obama's citizen taslforce and school rules , then the public schools should not be angry at the people here for reporting their illegal behavior.

      After all, they're the ones REQUIRING people to report illegal behavior they see even off school campus off school hours whether the suspect is a student or not, a minor or an adult.

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  89. That is just one of the many reasons we did not attend public school. Homeschooling is a great option and they can drink all the Kombucha they want.

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  90. It is truly shocking to see what schools are serving children to eat at school. It is as if all nutritional wisdom has been erased. I can only imagine how strange it would be in the public school setting for a child to drink kombucha from home instead of a coca-cola. Kombucha is still feared by the mainstream as being unsafe and an unknown. I have recently been substitute teaching in schools and yesterday I was required to give the students a snack that the regular teacher had purchased and distributes each day after morning math lesson. I was shocked to read the ingredients of the popcorn and pretzels, containing partially-hydrogenated oils, corn syrup and preservatives. Never mind the possible GMO ingredients! I noticed an almost immediate change in the behavior of the class, as kids became almost too wild to manage. In addition, about half of the class of 20 fourth graders receive special services for either being on the autistic spectrum or having some other learning difficulty. It is heart breaking to have to fulfill the agenda of the public schools after being immersed in traditional foods. I kept thinking that if the kids were being raised in France, for example, the situation would be quite different as teaching children to appreciate and taste different foods is part of the national agenda of public education (I just finished reading “Bringing Up Bebe by Pamela Druckerman).

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  92. This district needs it’s ass sued. It’s REQUIRED LEGALLY to notify parents just to start with. There are so many infractions here that it is mind boggling.

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  93. oh that is so frustrating! I can’t believe they had to go through all that! Friggin ignorant people!! And your supposed to be a school! Your supposed to TEACH!!!!! ERRRRRR

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  94. What astounds me is that the parents were not immediately called about this. First of all, this is an elementary child, his MOTHER packed his lunch, so if she packed water, fruit juice, kombucha or whatever, it wasn’t like he really had a say. He brought to school the lunch his mother packed for him. Do they really think elementary kids are walking around going shopping, making their own lunches with their parents unawares? Really?

    This is what stands out to me about schools these days, they think they all of these ‘children’ are capable of reasoning and responding as adults would in any given situation. Rather than try to LEARN FROM the child, or use these as opportunities to TEACH children rather than knee jerk reactions, jumping to conclusions and jumping right off to PUNISH rather than try to understand the situation. That is what really drives me crazy.

    I understand a teacher being ignorant and ill-informed, all they have to do is simply ask the child, oh that looks interesting I’ve never seen a drink like that, what is it? And if they were confused they could simply walk to the library and google, “kombucha” and learn themselves a little before making so many “ASSumptions”.

    Again I am just appalled that the parents were not sought out before making ANY accusations or punishments towards the child, until they were informed what the substance was or was not and how it got there and why. Middle and Highschoolers would be a bit of a different situation since they are much more able to think and do for themselves and understand the situation to explain, but still parents should be called first and foremost regardless.

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  95. It’s not really lunch police…that’s just what the overly dramatic are calling the lunchroom staff who are there to make sure the kids are ok. Not fighting, not making messes , etc. It’s totally not OK to leave a lunchroom full of kids unsupervised. Of course, obviously someone there overstepped their bounds, and the subsequent fiasco was ridiculous. But by no means does this type of lunch inspection thing go on everywhere, regularly.
    It’s interesting to me that people get so worked up about these articles that only seem to tell HALF the story or less.

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  96. you are condemned if you do wrong and you are condemned if you do right seems like sometimes we are fighting a losing battle as parents.

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  97. I haven’t read all the posts butfor this childs future I felt compelled to post this.

    The family needs to track his records for years in the future to make sure this doesn’t end up in there. They may say it isn’t and can appear not to for a time and then resurface. Drug and alcohol are serious charges, especially at such a young age. It will probably end up in there with no redress/explainsion of their error. He can and will be marked a trouble maker despite the facts.

    My nephew had a bit of trouble in elementary school where he was being bullied but the teacher/school branded him the trouble marker even though he had no prior record. It was retracted when his parents threatened a law suit. “It went away” but turned up later only for the school board to have to get involved.

    Hope this helps all who may have to face trying time at school.

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  98. Julie Drassinower via Facebook October 12, 2012 at 10:36 pm

    This is an isolated incident. And no, all public schools are not terrible. Why do homeschoolers always have to denigrate public school?

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  99. Hannah Bragg Townsley via Facebook October 12, 2012 at 9:32 pm

    I really appreciate your efforts to keep us informed. Have you ever heard anything (any dangers) about applying Vicks to children’s feet for their coughs. I have not used cough syrup for several years now, as placing vicks on the children’s feet with socks has worked so effectively. I used Baby Vicks on my 6 wk old’s feet when he was so sick and he got well after the virus took its course. Just was concerned as to what the limitations would be. Thank you for your time.

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  100. MY 7 YEAR OLD SON (IN 1974) TOOK HIS HOME MADE LUNCH TO SCHOOL. HE WAS DIAGNOSED WITH ADD AT THE AGE OF 2 AND WORKED WITH A DOCTOR. THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IGNORED EVERYTHING INCLUDING HIS TREATMENT. THE TEACHER WOULD TAKE HIS LUNCH AWAY AND FEED HIM THE SCHOOL LUNCHES SERVED AND THEN GIVE ME A BILL. HOT DOGS, ALL PROCESSED FOODS, NO FRUIT UNLESS CANNED, FRENCH FRIES NO VEGETABLES….KETCHUP. NOONE LOCAL WOULD ASSIST SO THE AIR FORCE TOOK OVER. THIS WENT ALL THE WAY TO WASHINGTON DC WHO TOOK OVER THE ENTIRE CASE AGAINST THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. I THINK MY SON DESERVED APOLOGY FROM THE PEOPLE INVOLVED AND TODAY HE WOULD BE ABLE TO FIND AN ATTORNEY TO TAKE ON THIS CASE. FORTUNATELY WE MAY BE MAKING PROGRESS IF SOMETHING WAS DONE FOR THE CHILD…AND TO THE SCHOOL. HELP THE CHILDREN NOT ATTACK THEM. DURING THIS TIME I WAS SUFFERING WITH SEVERE BACK PAIN AND SPENT A MONTH IN THE HOSPITAL AND THE LAST WEEK, AFTER THREE WEEKS ON STRICK BEDREST IN A PRIVATE ROOM WITH A COMPLETE BATHROOM BUT I WAS NOT ALLOWED OUT OF BED) WAS GIVEN BED PANS, AND BED BATHS AND BANANAS AT EVERY MEAL AND ORANGES EVEN WHEN THEY WERE NOT LOCALLY REASONABLE TO PURCHASE. AFTER MY OPERATION I LEARNED OF TREATMENT OF MY CHILDREN. KIDS THREW MY ADD CHILD’S SHOES ON THE SCHOOL ROOF AND COULD NOT REACH THEM. MY MOTHER WAS STAYING WITH THEM AT THIS TIME I WAS IN THE HOSPITAL. THE SCHOOL LAUGHED AT HER WHEN SHE WENT AND ASKED FOR THE SHOES. THEY TOLD HER TO LET HIM JUST WEAR ANOTHER PAIR….HE HAD OUTGROWN ALL HIS SHOES AND DID NOT HAVE ANOTHER PAIR TO WEAR AT THAT TIME. PEOPLE ARE BULLIES WHEN THEY ACT LIKE THIS. THE SCHOOL WAS PRIMARILY HIGH RANKING MILITARY OFFICER’S KIDS. THE SCHOOL SYSTEM TRIED TO ”BULLY’ FUNDS FROM THE GOVERNMENT \EVEN THOUGH THEY RECEIVED THE HIGHEST RATE CHARGED IN THIS CITY NO MATTER WHAT RANK THE HOUSING AREA ON BASE WAS FOR….LOW RANKING ALL THE WAY TO THE BASE COMMANDER AND THE LARGE MILITARY HOSPITAL COMMANDER ETC…..BUT THEY DID NOT THINK THAT WAS ENOUGH…..I AM GLAD SOMEONE IS FINALLY GETTING THOSE SCHOOLS AND BRINGING OUT THEIR MEANNESS. THEY KNOW BETTER AND I RESENT HOW THEY TREAT CHILDREN.

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  101. Dear Sarah and readers, the Newport-Mesa Unified School District has issued a statement regarding this story. I hope this will be helpful to clarify some of the issues and what was and is being done to rectify the perceptions and policies.

    Newport-Mesa Unified School District’s Statement Re: Alleged Action of Suspension for Possession of Kombucha Tea Drink

    For Immediate Release: Friday, October 12, 2012

    Newport-Mesa Unified would like to respond to a recent article posted in The Healthy Home Economist titled, “Child Suspended from School for Kombucha in Lunchbox.”

    No disciplinary action was taken and the student was not suspended. The parents of the involved student met with the school principal to discuss and resolve any issues that resulted from Wednesday’s incident.

    The issue resulted from the student being in possession of a beverage called, Kombucha, a tea, which states on its label that it contains 0.05 percent alcohol. The substance came to the attention of school officials through other students who reported that a student had alcohol. Having a substance on campus containing any level of alcoholic content is a violation according to District policy.

    The article also references police involvement. The Newport Beach Police Department provides two full- time School Resource Officers who work with our Newport Beach and Corona del Mar campuses. Police were not called in specifically for this incident. The SRO was already on campus and participated in a routine discovery process.

    All this being said, the incident itself and the perception of how it was handled is something the District is committed to correcting. School districts implement policies and procedures to ensure consistency of practice. For most circumstances, the practices work. However, this was a new situation.

    Seeing the need to review some of the practices regarding policies and procedures regarding discipline, the Newport-Mesa Unified School District Board of Education has requested the Superintendent to research programs that would emphasize a more nurturing approach to the discovery process and avoid overly aggressive practices when dealing with the discipline process.

    Laura Boss
    Director of District Communications
    Newport-Mesa Unified School District
    lboss@nmusd.us

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    • Nice words, but I believe the Mom – the student was suspended, until she intervened. Don’t act as if nothing happened to them, I’ve been in a crazy situation like this, and it’s extremely emotional and difficult – the school never admits error and it had long lasting negative impact on my child.

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    • Wow. It was not reported by another student, it was reported by the food police. Also, school police or not…this is an officer employed by the Newport Police Dept. and was in uniform. I don’t appreciate this cover up statement, nor playing down how intimidating a uniformed Police Officer was to my son. The fact that she works with the school is further insulting. They should have never let her harass him!!!
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    • Dear Laura, are you running for a political post next? That yarn of malarkey sounds ripe for some seat on a school board and next, maybe congress. I’m sure you’ll go far. Your “side of the story” paints the mother and child here as lying rule breakers, yet lacks the insight of common sense. This wreaks like PR for a large corporation or celebrity attempting damage control. Furthermore, it’s quite a surprise that the school system would be sending people to an internet blog. Further proof of our tax dollars hard at work. Maybe if y’all educated yourselves on nutrition and did more for the teachers, people such as these fine readers and parents wouldn’t want to devote all the extra hours and loss of their own potential employment to educate their children themselves. We all know how it works. The school gets allotted a certain dollar amount per attending student. That’s what the fuss is about. Unfortunately, if you try to hold a town hall meeting to boost attendance, the parents of the kids already in your care wouldn’t likely show and the same parents who home school will likely have their children out for a cultural event in the evening. Much like our current dueling political administrations, you won’t get my vote. I think your letter and your entire job is a waste of public time and money.

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  103. This is one of the problems with, for example, the EU’s zero tolerance for drink driving. ANY alcohol in the blood and damn, you are gone. That eliminates the tiny amount of alcohol in most fermented foods, like, the amount you get in ginger beer or, far less in the case of fermented vegetables.

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  104. As an elementary school teacher I have some major problems when people’s first response is to yank your child out of school! I have 20 students in my class and feel that each one is worthy of a first class education. A caring parent will assist their child in whatever they feel the teacher does not cover to ensure a good education. I have a third grade daughter and a pre-school daughter and I supplement their education with values and Bible class at home. We also work on science experiments and other topics of interest. The school system here in WV where I work has done a tremendous job of educating children and my children love their schools. The largest problem we face here is not lunch police (we are glad they are fed) but the lack of caring parents. Some of our students are ONLY fed at school and do not eat dinner at all! Our lunch standards here are very high. Our school lunches must be whole grain, contain a vegetable and fruit choice and all our bread is home made every day it is served. The chicken and beef must be from a reputable USA company and the children can only have low fat or fat free milk. Yes there are still problems and my children pack most days but to say home school is the ultimate choice is not always true. I have three degrees as a teacher and I would not home school my children as they are very social and learn from the ill mannered children at school how thankful they should be for our God fearing family and close friends. If you shelter a child too much they will not know how to deal with those around them when the need arises as real life is all around us. I have many friends who home school and just as many who do not. The children are all well educated, just in different ways.

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  105. It’s good they have somewhere to turn. Interrogating a child without a parent or guardian present? That is actually CRIMINAL, and it’s amazing to me they’re not calling for the resignation of the administrators over this. I’m surprised the police officer isn’t also being called to the carpet over this.

    I make and enjoy Kimbucha myself. I’m glad there are people out there who are willing and able to introduce beverages to their kids that isn’t soda or syrupy juice. However, I think it’s a mistake to send Kimbucha with your child to school.

    If you’re worried about the child being teased by peers and teachers for getting into trouble for having Kimbucha, why didn’t you stop and consider that such a thing would happen for drinking such a strange beverage in the first place? My Mom used to make me peanut butter and banana sandwiches on wheat bread when I was little and I caught so much flack for it.

    Also, I’m sorry, but “No glass containers” means just that, not “no glass containers unless rules don’t apply to you for whatever reason you come up with on your own or read on a blog somewhere”.

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    • I should also point out that I didn’t care about the flack I caught for having banana instead of overly processed jelly on my sammitches. I loved them and I knew my Mom made them for me because she loved me.

      I’m more concerned, and identify, with the fear and mistrust this poor kid may have of teachers, principals, and police officers going forward.

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    • <<<why didn’t you stop and consider that such a thing would happen for drinking such a strange beverage in the first place?

      what you call strange other peole would call normal depending on where they're from.
      So how are we suppoded to know what the school will consider "strange"?

      For instance the public schools here consider "grits": a "strange" food. While the schools where some of my cousins are in the hills down south consider it "normal" food.

      If my cousins moved up here, how would they know that their "normal food" is considered "strange food" by the school and can get them suspended, especially when the school rulebook doesn't mention it at all. There's nothing in the rule book that specifically says grits are not allowed to be brought to school in your hommemade lunch.

      However, the school would just use the rule about "no unusual items allowed" or usually what happens, they would suspend them by using the rule about "causing a disturbance at school is not allowed" because all the other students would be causing a commotion by calling them "hillbillies" for bringing hillbilly food. yet the school would clain the other students didn't cause the commotion, that my cousins did, because their would not have been a big commotion and distrurbance by the other students if my cousins had not brought "unusual items" to school which is clearly against the school rules.

      And that's not the only food. Some schools consider Italian food "strange" food. One of the public schools near me in the next city over now has an Asian principal who would consider some normal food here in America as "strange" and some as "racist". depending on who's eating it. That is, depending on what race is eating it.

      It's okay if blacks are eating fried chicken, grits, and greens, but if a white person is eating fried chiken, grits, and greens at that public school, then they get suspended for "being racist against African-Americans" because you know, "only African-Americans like fried chicken, grits, and greens". Yes, my white cousins woud get suspended from that school also just for eating their normal southern food. Although for a different reason given by the school, "racist" instead of "strange". And my cousins are not racist.

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  106. A mother smart and savvy enough to provide such a nutritious lunch can do great job of home educating her child. It’s bad enough to deal with bullies who are students, but school officials too? How do these people get in these positions anyway?

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  107. It’s common sense to handle every situation uniquely. To say the school has overreacted is an understatement and in return they have inflicted emotional trauma to a child. I have grown kombucha and shared it with many hundreds of people and the alcohol percentage is on average under a third of a percent when made at home. Many people have to consume kombucha and other fermented beverages such as water kefir and milk kefir just to be able to pass a bowel movement. The parents might not have even been aware of the alcohol in the beverage. You can not become intoxicated off of these beverages but I understand this might not stop a young child from trying. You would have to drink gallons for any effect to take place and you would become sick from the overwhelming amount of beneficial bacteria and yeast far before you would get close.

    I understand the school’s policy and I understand the parents should have talked to the school first but what the school has done in response is atrocious. The human body produces its own supply of alcohol naturally on a continuous basis, 24 hours a day, seven days a week. It’s called endogenous ethanol production. They have obviously made an exception for this natural process so it would have been possible for the school to use common sense and negotiate the situation before blowing it out of the water and harming the family.

    It’s because of the inappropriate methods the public school system uses to handle matters that I’ve chosen to homeschool and many parents do the same. For the short time that I was in public school with my two sisters years ago we had several issues come up that were enough for my parents to pull us out.

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  108. It seems the prevailing message after reading the comments is kombucha is good, public school is not so much. The exception is BC who believes that if we all surrender to giving our kids the same prescription, even if it’s toxic and potentially deadly to some, then eventually someone will see enough people get injured or even die and possibly do something effective about it. Am I getting this right? That’s what I’m reading. More people need to get in there, have something go wrong, too, and complain for the situation to get corrected. After looking at how drug companies operate and how many casualties of vaccines it takes before a parent gets a meager payout but still sees no sign of responsibility taken by drug manufacturers or changes w/ the laws but to further favor the status quo, I don’t see how anyone could blame a parent for not subjecting one’s kids to the experiment. Everyone has a choice and if it works out for someone to be in public school, that’s great. Thinking it’s irresponsible or unfair for parents to think beyond the system is just inaccurate and very limited in the scope of logic.

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    • Why is this argument so hard to grasp?! If you take a child out of public school, you lose not only that child’s input, that child’s parents(chaperones, PTA meetings, coaching, etc) and depending on what state you live in, you actually lose funds. This is a fact! This is your right! I would fight for you to have that right. But to say it doesn’t have an effect is ridiculous! Just because you all keep saying the system is broken, doesn’t make it so. The vast majority of college students are public school educated. The vast majority of business executives, public school educated. The arts are dominated by public school graduates. They have produced Rhode scholars, academy award winning actors and directors, Nobel prize winners, civil rights leaders, Olympic and pro athletes, great poets, play writes and designers. Can homeschooling create these folks? YES! But that broken system is still churning out some pretty productive citizens. Your system works very well but cannot possibly suit the needs of an eclectic, constantly growing population. So enjoy your right to educate your child how you choose, but your broken system, faulty foundation talk, is just that, talk!

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      • Oh and the rest of your comment had little to do with the conversation? That’s where the schitzo comments come in. There’s a boogie man around every corner?! Mind control, brainwashing and drugging its citizens seems to be all you peeps think government does. Your dinnner parties must be a hoot! lol!

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  109. Kristen Latkowski Sloboda via Facebook October 12, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    @ twyla robinson and FYI, I must admit I have gotten a slight buzz from drinking a whole bottle of store bought Kombucha and have suspected for a while that it has alcohol levels high enough for the FCA to want it labels so. Article below states as much as 3%. I will assume that like me not knowing this, the mom who packed it probably didn’t know either. I do think the school totally over reacted. hehttp://dinersjournal.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/25/kombucha-may-be-treated-like-alcohol-government-says/

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  111. Getting back to the point – kombucha is not a controlled substance. It is not illegal. You do not need to have your kids lie about what it is when they bring it to school nor do you need to ask permission from the school as to what to send in your kids’ lunches. The whole idea of food police is insanity. This boy did nothing wrong. The people who interrogated him should be held responsible. I do think we should get soda and candy vending machines out of schools, but no one has the right to be policing these kids’ lunches. It’s all crazy. And the poppy seed thing – really??

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  113. Does anyone know what school it was in Newport Mesa? My kids attend Newport Beach Elementary so it would help to know which school it was since I we are a Paleo household and I do brew my own kombucha lol

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  114. Why can’t you still be apart of your child’s education if they go to public schools? I’m not asking a community to raise my child. The system is only there to support me and my goals for my child. You people are acting as if the moment your child enters the school your role is over! Please! My son is literally a genius. I don’t know where he got it from but he is. Lol! But I do know where he gets the majority of his education from. ME! And I wish I had other passionate parents in the system.
    Your child benefits in the short run! But he will spend more on car insurance to insure one those uneducated public school kids doesn’t still his car. He will have to have a great alarm system to prevent the uneducated from breaking in! Not to mention the amount of taxes he will pay to house the uneducated in prisons. And even if he does all this he still may get mugged by one of those uneducated. Once they leave your house, they will still run into the rest of the world! The best way to protect your child is to make the world they live in a better place!

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    • I completely agree that parents can be deeply involved with their children’s education while they attend public school. However, the assumption that homeschooling our children is the equivalent to removing them from society altogether and that it is a cop-out on the system is just that; an assumption. I have homeschooled all six of my children. They are all bright, engaging, happy people. They have a wonderful work-ethic and a thirst for knowledge and understanding. They have and have always had a wide circle of friends and involvement in their church and community. They care deeply about social issues and making the world a better place. And we have a wonderful relationship. All of this can be accomplished because of your involvement in their lives and not whether they learn their ABC’s and calculus away from home or at the dining room table.

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      • I’m not saying they won’t have contact with the rest of the world. I was making a point about those used this ignorant official as their rationality for taking them out of the system. They could choose to view that situation as an opportunity to educate. To increase the knowledge of the general population and possibly the nutrition of a group of kids in their community. That does not absolve the school of their responsibility in that situation. Im sure your kids are great! I’m saying that the way u did it, had consequences. I’m not saying that I would never home school. I’m saying that I see the benefits of group education on society as a whole. What if the family’s that give their kids Kambucha were in that school. Their parents attend PTA meetings, where things like this can be discussed. In that scenario not only could your kid could drink what he wants but you have educated the masses as well.

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  115. I am a public school teacher and have lunch duty…I am the lunch police. I cannot believe the lunches children show up with. A plethora of drinks (rarely water and when it is water it contains flouride!), white bread, tubes of flavored, colored and sweetened yogurt, candy, the heinous “lunchable”, etc. Believe me, the cafeteria lunch seems downright awesome in light of the horrors in most lunch boxes. As I scope out what my students bring for lunch it is no wonder that I have squirmy, hyperactive children in my classroom.

    As for the kid and his komboucha…this lunch cop would have stood on the cafeteria table and led a cheer in his honor…

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  116. US is so dumb. Boy am I ever glad to be Canadian!! For starters, we don’t have ‘lunch police’!! If the teacher has a concern regarding the child’s lunch, they call the child’s PARENT! *gasp!*.

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  117. I agree that the police being brought in is big problem. Let them question my son without me around and they will get an ear full. Then I’m gonna sue! But what I was so surprised at, after reading the posts here, was how many people here don’t see the social damage that is done when parents pull kids from public schools. It only benefits your kid! And only in the short term. Public schools die, not because they’re controlled by ignorant a$$holes(which they are sometimes), but because some parents give up! Yes ,dealing with the system is hard but any real change is! WHAT ARE YOU REALLY TEACHING YOUR KIDS?! If my government is broken or my schools are broken its up to me to fix them. Don’t abnegate your responsibility to the whole to the benefit the one!

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      • BC, it is not my nor my children’s responsiblity to assimiliate into a system which was faulty to begin with. As a socially responsible adult it is my job to raise responsible, reasoning, productive adults. If as adults they want to help with ‘real change’ when they are emotionally, intellectually and physically capable, then I would wholeheartedly support them. If you want to fix the system by keeping your children in it, I’d love to know how it works out for you!

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        • Yes the system has some serious problems, ONE of which is that students, parents and resources are taken out of it! So while actively helping break the system, you ridicule and denigrate it?? There are plenty of children who came up the thru the public system, who are those things you mentioned also. My point is Thanks for the help! Not!

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          • I did not attack, ridicule or denigrate the system, simply pointed out that it was faulty from the beginning. It is an interesting assertation that homeschoolers are helping to break something that has already been broken by not participating in the brokeness, hmmmm. I think I may have struck a cord with you, did something I said ring too true? Have you been able to create positive, meaningful change from within the system? I do not disagree with you about children who came through the system well, I am one of them. I also believe that there are good schools out there, just not near enough. I assert that it is in spite of the system, which continues to degenerate to this day.

          • If you live in the states your tax dollars are going to the system. You are a part of it whether you like it or not. Yes, I am arguing for the system(In this case). If you don’t want to fix it or participate in it, that is your choice. And your right. However, if you choose to spout off about how bad the system is, you should be prepared, if say a teacher, a principle, school administrators or any other concerned citizen challenges your ideas. Maybe it’s a futile effort, to work from within but unless you have something constructive to say then all you’re doing is mouthing off!

    • no. I remember very well what it was like when I was in public school. Which was the entire time I was in school.

      Sending your kids to public schools IS “child abuse”

      child abuse is illegal.

      The ones taking their kids out of public schools and homeschooling them or sending them to private schools are the ones who are doing the right correct thing.

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  118. As disappointing as the ignorance display by this administrator and their staff was, what I find the most disturbing is the growing trend of “police state” tactics that are allowed to take place in schools. I was a police officer for 10 years and would NEVER HAVE DREAMED of conducting investigatory questioning of a juvenile, especially an elementary school aged one, for a suspected offense this minor without their parent or other interested adult present to be my point of contact (minor as in non-life threatening or of imminent danger – true underage drinking is a serious issue, of course).

    The youth of today are being desensitized to totalitarianism one brick at a time: fenced schools, police displaying explicit and reflexive solidarity with authority over the accused, invasive questioning without responsible and intelligent representation – I could go on. I do not believe this is because of some “Illuminati” conspiracy. It’s because today’s parenting generation is uninvested in the youth. It is simply “easier” to warehouse the kids these days while we go out and earn a living. Unfortunately, we’ve now also allowed them to become a new surrogate family responsible for accountability and discipline in their life as well.

    This behavior needs to cease on everyone’s part.

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  119. Stephanie Pruett Amuso via Facebook October 12, 2012 at 12:57 pm

    The parents should have just poured it into a drink thermos so the lunchroom monitors would never have known!

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    • <<<The parents should have just poured it into a drink thermos so the lunchroom monitors would never have known!

      haven't you heard? Theremos's are no longer allowed in public schools.

      They suspend students for those also, if they bring them.

      And lunchboxes aren't allowed either. They get suspended for bringing those also.

      That leavves paper bags, (plastic not allowed because it's dangerous and kids can get smothered in it), but they'll probably start suspending kids for bringing their lunch in paper bags also since that is what winos use.

      Some school districts such as Chicago have even outlawed the students from bringing lunch from home altogether. The ONLY thing they are allowed to have is the highly unnutritious school-served lunches. With all the unhealthy gmo and all the other unhealthy stuff.

      Of course, the reason the school states they are doing this is so that the "kids will be healthier".

      I saw statistics that the most fat obese kids currently in the U.S. are the ones who eat the school-served lunches.

      The ones the public schools claim are the "healthiest" and "healthy".

      Yet the same schools complain if they find out the parents are serving the same kind of stuff (or even the same thing) to the kids at home and call child services on them for serving the kids "unhealthy food".

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  120. Thank you, Sara, for bringing this story to our attention. My heart breaks for this family. The trauma that this boy and his family have gone through is unconscionable. I would like to suggest, for all families that pack healthy lunches for their children to take to school, that they make an appointment with the principal at the beginning of every school year. They can bring with them a sample of the type of food that they will be sending in their child’s lunches. Then ask the principal if there is going to be a problem with that. By educating the administration beforehand, situations like this can be avoided. If lots of families begin doing this, then a change can be brought about in a peaceful and non-confrontational way, and most-importantly our children will not have to defend themselves against bullying adults.

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      • I don’t think you need permission from the principal or anyone else in the school for what you send in your child’s lunch box. Frankly, it is none of their business. Is anyone approving the principal’s lunch? I know this is well intended, for sure, Muriel. From what I have seen of school lunch served in the cafeteria, schools are no role model for good nutrition and what if the principal disapproved of your choices based on his or her belief about what is healthy? I just think that sets a scary precedent. The point really is that it is none of their business and you have the right to feed your child as you wish.

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    • I think it’s a little over the top to meet with the principle and ask permission to feed my child healthy food. sounds a little unreasonable to me.

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  121. Why on earth do American schools have so much control over what their kids eat when the kids in question are bringing food from home? I’m not American, so I find this hard to make sense of.

    No wonder so many parents are opting for home-schooling.

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  122. Lanna Kroger via Facebook October 12, 2012 at 12:46 pm

    OMG people the amount of alcohol as a by product of kombucha or water keifer is less than 3 percent.. I wonder what toxins are in pink slime… probably illegal too… Kombucha is sold in the grocery store for crying out loud!!!! IT is not enough alcohol to make even a toddler tipsy____ can you even believe the insanity of our world.. YES HOMESCHOOL cops, principles, teachers and lunch nazis bullying our kids and the world wonders.

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  123. While I agree that the actions of this school were extreme and heavy handed — I also think that there are so many other things that a child can have to drink at lunch time. If the child drinks kombucha at home, before and after school — then perhaps a different, healthy drink could be substituted at lunch. Balance in all things is a good thing.

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  124. I am a fairly new follower of yours (4 mths or so) and I think you have a lot of wisdom that you freely give and knowledge about a healthy lifestyle. However this post seems a little over the top in sensationalism. I don’t disagree that the school was out of line but to pose this “boy”, whom you reference later into trying to be enrolled in teen counseling (which means he is probably a young man). I’m sure there are 2 sides to this story and I’m sure he and his mom isn’t just simply a helpless victim. Most people aren’t these days. My point is- I expect you to tell the WHOLE story and present a point that will help your readers without emotion.

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  125. Back in the 1960′s my mom packed papaya juice and healthy food for me to take to school.The teachers and many students ridiculed me. It took a couple visits to the principal’s office by my mom so I could just bring the stuff. I had been severely allergic and this diet (along with homeopathy and vitamins) saved my life.
    In the 1990′s my son had severe anxiety before school and could only eat a raw carrot for lunch. He ate normally at home. The lunch police reported us to Child Services. It took a note from an endocrinologist to the school board to let James eat his carrot.

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  126. WTF??? Why was the police officer even allowed to interrogate the child without a parent present?!?!?! How dare they do this to a small kid and then brush if off as a minor incident? Not only their statements about Kombucha are ignorant, and they have no right to take it away from the child… but the way this situation was handled is appalling. The principal and all adults involved should be suspended… If it were my child I would contact a lawyer.
    Thank you for helping this family to deal with this situation!

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  127. Good lord people, get a grip. What I take to be the real issue is that GLASS BOTTLES are not allowed in schools. Yes, the way the school handled it was pretty horrible, but if there’s a “no glass” rule at school, then there you go. No. Glass. Allowed. I don’t care if the bottle has water, air, milk, or hippy-dippy-whatever — it’s not allowed. I think it’s perfectly reasonable to say no glass at school…

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    • Yes, it is reasonable for a school to disallow glass, but if they do, they need to inform the parents and be consistent. The disturbing thing is that the parents were not called. I doubt if anybody would have jumped all over this if the school had taken the bottle, given the child a glass of water and called the parent to inform them that glass is against the rules.

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    • Jennifer, the fact that the police officer told the boy that the kombucha was illegal and very dangerous if he takes any medications and asked if the child takes medicines indicates this was not about the container. Glass may have been secondary, or an initial red flag to school officials on the lookout for hidden alcoholic beverages, but the bigger issue was their assumptions and blundering, bullying actions concerning the contents.

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  128. Why dont you contact the superintendent to have this vprincipal educated to proper disciplinary actions. And then contact the local media and have the school reported.

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  129. Our school serves “Peanut butter and FLUFF” sandwiches everyday as a choice. Yikes. Then preaches the “new healthy initiative” the district has adopted. Yeah, right.

    It kills me how no one even ask questions about what it was or what was in it BEFORE they ripped into this child. Good grief.

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  130. Wow, that is just awful. That poor child having to go through that. How dare those people treat a child like that without even knowing the drink. So judgmental. People are always quick to judge without knowing the facts. I cook and bake all vegan food and some assume things about vegans that are completely inaccurate. I would have been furious if it had been my child.
    Brandi @ TheHealthyFlavor.com

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  131. How old was the boy? Elementary school age could be anywhere from 6 to 12 or 13… they mention “boy” and “child” which to me thinks it is a very young boy (around 6-8) but then why would they want to send him to a teenage alcoholics class? I am curious. I don’t really think the age matters except to satisfy my curiosity.

    The first paragraph was even more shocking to me, about the pre-schooler with his turkey sandwich!

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    • <<<The first paragraph was even more shocking to me, about the pre-schooler with his turkey sandwich
      yeah,!!!!! exactly what was so "unnutritious" about that lunch? It contained all the food from all the basic 4 food groups I learned in school were nutritious and that we need so many servings of each per day daily for the entitre rest of our lives because they are nutritious.

      turkey sandwich with cheese-turkey=food from the meat group & cheese=food from the milk& dairy group. The bread on the sandwich=food from the bread & cereal group

      Banana=food from the fruit and vegetable group

      yet they take the whole lunch away from her and give her only processeed chicken nuggets which – food from only the meat group, if there's really any meat in it at all.

      So she doesn't get anything from the bread & cereal, milk& dairy, or "fruit & vegetable food groups because it (those) are "unhealthy" and not allowed at the school (the same with her turkey (real meat), but the same kind of fast-food chicken mcnuggets as served at McDonald's is allowed because it is "healthy".

      Idiots are running the public schools.

      "Have you ever wondered what part of the chicken they put in your chicken mcnuggets?"

      think about it. ;)

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  132. Stacy Hester via Facebook October 12, 2012 at 11:28 am

    Thankful we homeschool. The parents should have been contacted immediately with any concerns, allowed to explain and the child should have been left alone.

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    • <<<Lawsuit!

      That only works if you can afford to file a lawsuit.

      Most parents I know of aren't rich enough to be able to afford to file a lawsuit.

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  133. Twyla Robinson via Facebook October 12, 2012 at 11:23 am

    Does this have anything to do with that whole scandal that happened when Lindsey Lohan’s blood alcohol monitor went off after drinking a bottle of GT’s kombucha? That got a lot of publicity and caused a lot of misunderstanding about the drink, which has obviously permeated this particular principal’s office.

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  134. Twyla Robinson via Facebook October 12, 2012 at 11:23 am

    Does this have anything to do with that whole scandal that happened when Lindsey Lohan’s blood alcohol monitor went off after drinking a bottle of GT’s kombucha? That got a lot of publicity and caused a lot of misunderstanding about the drink, which has obviously permeated this particular principal’s office.

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  135. When you sign your children up for Public School, you sign your rights as a parent away. They have the right to do a lot more to your children without your legal consent. I am not being harsh here. It is the truth. Do the research. There was a case where they were doing “emergency drills” and took the the elementary children off campus without telling the parents. It was within their legal rights.

    I love Kombucha and am really sorry for this parent, but it really seems a sign of the times how far reaching the gov’t has become. Thank you, Sarah for speaking out and helping this parent.

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  136. Why were the parents not informed? The boy went home after they confiscated the drink, they could have easily sent a note home…

    Ridiculous.

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  137. Amazing. I do the exact same thing, although I sort of did expect my kindergartners glass bottle to be confiscated because it’s glass. But nothing has happened since. Maybe I’ll make sure to address it on Monday with his classroom aid who is in charge of lunchtime supervision so we don’t have any issues like this. How traumatizing to sit in front of a police officer and get drilled and then have it be swept under the rug. Typical public school drama. So glad we got out of that system.
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  138. They should do a lawsuit, the more attention to this kind of abuse, they will b more careful next time. It’s Newport beach- I live close- law suit nation… It’s sad that gt’s kombucha started labeling it as having alcohol n some places requiring a 21 or older purchase, doesn’t help the case. They can inject our children w the 2nd most deadly chemical on the planet, but kombucha shud be jail time. My daughter takes inner Eco in her lunch, pretty soon coconut water fermented will be a crime too

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  139. If there was a real police officer there, and not just a school security person, then isn’t this totally illegal? The parents can press charges. It is against the law for the police to question minors without a legal guardian present. Perhaps they consider the principal the legal guardian while the child’s at school?
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  140. I homeschooled, so avoided that crud. (well, now he’s facing some of the stupidity in university) anyhow, when my son was young, he had a card I printed out, the info’s out there on the net, basically, it gave instructions that he did not have to answer any questions by authority, without a parent present, and contact info for parents. rather than answer questions (outside of, who you were, parents, phone #’s) he was just to take the card out of his wallet (Thomas the Tank Engine wallet, when he was real little) and hand it to the person in charge & wait.

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  141. I actually think it would be great to give us the contact information for the principal and the superintendent of schools in that district so that we can inundate them with calls now. They should be ashamed of their actions and I do believe that being proactive and drawing attention to this matter would help to prevent something like this from happening again. I home school my kids and live in Vermont, and maybe if they realized that this issue is getting national attention, they might be hesitant to continue with this kind of behavior. It is inexcusable that they did not call his parents in to be with him during his interrogation, and they have no business telling him what he should be eating anyway.

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    • I was wondering the same thing– what on Earth would have made any school official even notice this kid and his drink in the first place?

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      • For the first month of school I sent my two kids with homemade kombucha in glass swingtop bottles. I told them to just say it’s tea if a kid asks. A few days in my son told me that he got a little teased by the kids he sits with and asked if he was drinking beer. I asked why they would have asked that and he told me that when you open the bottle it pops, loudly, and there is a little spray and some “fog” that comes out of the bottle.

        To @Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist- What kind of info should we arm our kids with in case of confrontation? I haven’t had a problem yet, but I certainly don’t want something like this to happen!

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  142. Kombucha bad – diet soda fine. Ugh.

    We have reached the point where the state & the hired “professionals” who carry out its dictates believe they own our children. They view parents as assigned caregivers who can be replaced at any time. Incidents like this reflect that belief. As bad as this case is, I know of one more appalling.

    Home or private schooling for those who can make it work is the only way I see to keep children out of the clutches of this monster named public education.

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    • Its only good for your child while other children suffer. The system is broken but it requires good people to commit to help fix it. Walking away isn’t always the answer.

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      • What most people don’t realize is that it doesn’t matter how many good people or good solutions you throw at the problem. The system is broken beyond repair. The very foundation it was built upon is faulty. It doesn’t matter how many excellent building materials you use to prop it up later if the foundation is crumbling. The building will fall eventually, and my children will not be crushed by it.

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        • see my post below! Your kids will be crushed one way or the other. They don’t live in a vacuum. These choices have real consequences!

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          • Do you think I’m not preparing my kids for the real world? We have traveled to 4 continents with them, and they communicate well with everyone. We’ve even taught them wilderness survival skills. They are hardly sheltered or backward. Do you fall for the argument that homeschooled kids are socially inept? It’s simply not true.

            I’m sorry if I come across as just a tad grouchy here, but I get weary of correcting this assumption.

          • And also, I maintain that my kids will not likely be crushed. They and their homeschooled friends will be pulling victims from the wreckage and resuscitating them. We are not uncompassionate, just unwilling to invest in something that cannot work.

          • to Lauren below. I’m saying no such thing about your children. I’m making the point that those same things you mention can be achieved in public schools. The rest of your comment, I’m sure I understand??

  143. Ditto what Rick said. We send our children to school with either raw milk or home brewed kombucha everyday. What is happening to this family so outrages me that I’ll be all the more ready for the fight.

    Any government that seeks to erode the basic freedom of deciding for ourselves what we eat and what we feed our children ca not be trusted to protect any of our freedoms.

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  144. Suspended for packing kombucha in the kid’s lunchbox? Now them’s fighting words! All the other kids guzzling the Red Bulls and other assorted neurotoxins contained in the tons of soda products get a free pass? Oh yeah, that’s right, most homemade kombucha is FREE (so no profit margin for the school cafeteria….) thanks for posting healthyhomeeconomist!

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    • SO RIGHT about Redbull, etc. I would go to Pubmed or another such site and print off reams of the latest studies looking at HFCS and GMOs and list all the foods that contain it and all the ills they cause. Then I would toss this encyclopedia size printout on their desk.

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  145. Mydarlings Forreal via Facebook October 12, 2012 at 11:04 am

    awful… let the children eat that crap get reactions/behavioral issues.. then the school nurse suggests that the child has a learning issues & therefore recc to place on drugs.. Nice going govenement. Oh then for each child that is labeled & on gets on a drug recc by nurse/princ the school will get thousands of dollars.. Did anyone know that?????

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  146. This is outrageous, and an unbelievable development. I remember when these drinks were pulled off the shelves a couple of years ago due to their suspected “alcoholic” content, and then I’ve been hearing that in certain states there are signs in the store now which state that you have to be 21 or over to purchase them. How ludicrous! My son has been drinking kombucha every day of his life for the last 4 or more years, and has never become drunk on this beverage. My whole family consumes it daily, and would not be without it. My son also has kombucha in his lunch nearly every day at school (and when it’s not kombucha, it’s raw milk – another substance that is also considered problematic by some). If this happened at my son’s school, I’d get in the face of the person who was responsible so fast, it would make heads spin.
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    • Yes they re-released their original formula and you must be 21 to purchase. You can still buy the reformulated drink if you are under 21. It seems currently you can only find the originals in the pacific northwest. (Just went on a cross country road trip and only found them in Monterrey, California.) Ridiculous, yes…

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  147. I think hose school officials should realize that they are modeling the same type of bullying behavior they are trying to stop.

    Calling the child to the office summarily. Not allowing the boy to have a parent or a friend at hand. Threatening with a transfer. Asking leading questions. Lying! Kombucha can cause a problem with medications?

    I suggest parents buy a Farm-to-Consumer Legal Defense Fund magnet for their son’s lunch, and put 703-208-FARM on his cell phone speed dial. Was he read his rights? Did he have the opportunity to request counsel? This burns me up.

    Our school system needs to model appropriate behavior.

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  149. I will be sending my son to school with Kombuch next week…. I welcome this kind of fight. What do you expect from the People’s Republic of Cali…. Surender your liberties.

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    • You realize this happened in the most right wing county in California, right? The “People’s Republic” folks aren’t taking anyone’s civil liberties here. Orange County is solid Republican and Tea Party land.

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      • The far right and the conservatives along with neo-cons are closer to communism than any other branch of political pundits in the US. What they’ll have you believe however is that it’s the left, socialists and the undecided who resemble the communist gov’t. Take it from someone who spent 15 years of his life under a communist regime – don’t drink that cool aid.

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  150. Merina Amos via Facebook October 12, 2012 at 10:59 am

    Idiotic. Seems just about right for our one-size-fits all school system. Homeschool. We had some of our own first hand experiences with this kind of stupidity. It gave us the courage we needed to make the switch from public schooling.

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  151. Merina Amos via Facebook October 12, 2012 at 10:59 am

    Idiotic. Seems just about right for our one-size-fits all school system. Homeschool. We had some of our own first hand experiences with this kind of stupidity. It gave us the courage we needed to make the switch from public schooling.

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  152. I,m horrified but not surprised. My son brings lemonade kefir in his lunchbox everyday. I pack it in a glass bottle with a silicone cover in a neoprene bag. I’ve already talked to him about what it is and I’ve basically told him to say it’s just home made lemonade. I hate to do it but I don’t want him to be the victim. I’ll do the explaining if needs be. Yesterday I was the surprise story reader at my daughter’s kindergarten class. I made Sara’s lemon poppy seed mini muffins with coconut flour to bring for sncak. The kids gobbled them up but then preceeded to take out their own snacks that they had brought. More horror. I saw candy, chocolate pudding and all sort sorts of sugary junk. No turning back. It made me so grateful to have tapped into the traditional food community. I am going to offer to teach a healthy snacks for kids workshop at the next PTA meeting.

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    • You may have inadvertently caused a huge security situation. Heroin tests look for residue from the poppy, not the actual heroin because it is quickly metabolized. While it was nice of you to make snacks for the class, you could have gotten in a lot of trouble if they had done a random drug test on the class, the teacher, or you. You should have known that poppyseed would produce a positive result for heroin and should not have been given to children in a school environment. Worse still, if there was heroin in the school the poppyseed would have covered it up and you could have been fingered as an accessory.

      Prepackaged snacks avoid that and other problems.

      It’s easy to say you are horrified but the reality is there is heroin in schools, even at the third grade level (http://articles.nydailynews.com/2010-04-14/news/27061759_1_drug-bags-heroin-street-value).

      Which is worse, being too hard or too lax when it comes to drugs and alcohol?

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        • I think that Bill has a valid point. I don’t see it as critizism as much as a warning. With the original subject matter of the post, it isn’t too far away to see a problem if ANYONE decided or needed or wanted to drug test the teacher or any of the kids. It is true that a poppyseed muffin can cause a positive drug test.. and in the days of accuse first and ask questions later, I would be very hesitant to bake anything with poppyseeds and give it to people who did not know the issue with them.

          http://dsc.discovery.com/tv-shows/mythbusters/videos/poppy-seed-drug-test-minimyth.htm

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          • Thanks Connie, I watched it. Keep in mind, the myth buster dude eat a whole loaf of coke with poppy seeds. I fed 24 people one quarter tablespoon of poppy seeds. It’s a mountain compared to a molehill.

      • Bills right! Don’t give my kid a poppy seed muffin! You may think you were being all healthy n crap but I’m betting that if some of those parents, wouldn’t have wanted u to give them poppy seeds! You over stepped big time! There r plenty of healthy snacks that don’t have poppy seeds in them!

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        • I’m surprised you were able to bring in a home baked goodie. Schools for years in Fl have not allowed any home baked goods to be brought into the classroom. All goods must be commercially baked. School sights health and safety issues as the reason. But I too would have chosen something other then muffins with poppy seed. While in the military we were warned on numerous occasions to avoid things with poppy in it or on it as it could result in a positive drug result in a urine test.

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        • A “huge security situation” over poppy seeds in a snack?? That is the most ridiculous thing I have heard. And furthermore, if my kid was randomly drug tested in school without my permission, I would have lawyers all over their asses. This is beyond ludicrous.

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          • Did you see the link i posted about a third grader selling heroin to his classmates? It’s a huge security situation when an entire class of children would potentially fail a heroin test.

            Whether you like it or not, this is the world we live in.

        • BC thanks for the “healthy n crap” comment. I’m going to have a t-shirt printed for you….IT”S A HEALTHY N CRAP THANG….YOU WOULDN,T UNDERSTAND. I know you’ll wear it well.

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          • There’s healthy, then there’s stupid! A little math for you: Poppy = healthy but healthy doesn’t equal to poppy!(that sounded better in my head. lol) Those poppy seeds must be messing with your logic! Here’s a T-shirt for you: Healthy but stupid! Lol!

          • I don’t get why this is so hard to understand?! I would be highly pissed if my kid was given poppy seeds! You are not an authority and you are purposely going against the rules because YOU think you know what’s best for my kid! How about I fight for your right for your kid to drink kombucha if they want and you don’t give my kid poppy seeds because you think he should be allowed to have it! Seems pretty simple to me!

          • Thank you for helping us homeschoolers with our point: either you need to be there to keep your kids from getting undesireable ingredients that are not specifically banned from your school, or trust that the teacher does this in your place. The teacher allowed the poppy seeds to be brought, distributed and consumed. End of a simple story.

          • No, because this situation can be addressed within the system! Your well meaning uncle gives your kid a poppy seed, do you leave the family. How about that nice old lady from your church? Do you leave the church? What point? You address the issue. End of simple point! ;O0

          • What “situation?” Where is the rule barring poppy seeds in your school or is this a rule you are trying to impose on everyone else? If so, it’s not basketball anymore, honey, so no wonder people don’t want to play with you.

          • I don’t know where you live, (please tell me so I know not to move there) but here, parents aren’t allowed to give kids anything that isn’t pre-packaged or pre approved(other restrictions as well). You can argue the health of that all you want but Cathy is the reason that rule exist. I don’t want you giving anything to my kid that I don’t approve of. Your judgement may be sound but little Billy’s mom might be an idiot. There are rules for potlucks, bake sales and any other settings where parents are bringing food in. I live in CA and my son goes to good school but I still want that control. Everyone’s child can eat what they want and no parents or rules have been crossed. Seems reasonable to me. This whole post is about having the choice to send your kids to school and have them fed as we see fit. But when its reversed, its ok?!

          • And who doesn’t want to play? It seems quite a lot of people want to play! So much so I haven’t gotten any work done! ;O)

          • Thankfully here we have a good group of foodies in this area. Kids who can’t have certain items are not given anything brought from home. In other words, the burden is placed on them, not the entire school. It’s similar to the real world. If a child has allergies, they need to learn to say no thank you, or have a person in charge do so on their behalf. Your situation reminds me of the girl who successfully got the father-daughter dance canceled because her father is no longer living. I can’t have it! Nobody should! Whine! I have helped friends bake for public school parties where kids share their ethnic heritage. People bring ingredient lists for their items. (People can do this at home too!) This is what happens at potlucks that are outside of school events – don’t these kids participate in sports, church picnics or scouts or anything where they might get (horrors!) home made food? How will they learn what not to eat?!

            The homeschoolers and private schooled kids *aren’t* playing basketball with you, that’s why you’re so angry, right? They broke your game just by not participating. They’re bad for not helping fix it. They’re off playing soccer and baseball . . .

          • What are you smoking?? We’re not talking about allergies? And what does being foodie have to do with this? It’s funny your arguing this mess when this is the same argument people use to choose home schooling? I don’t want some strangers telling my kid what he can and can’t eat? Remember that? I’m not sure where you are but if you’re in the US, I guarantee there are more than a few limitations on what you can serve kids in public schools. Whether you know it or not? And I believe we’re making the same point about bake sales. List the ingredients and let me decide? You’re all over the place?? You’ve taken that basketball analogy a littttttle to far! LOL! I can’t argue against this flawed logic! This is my last attempt. Stay with me here! If little Billy’s dad decides to make his homemade weed brownies for his son’s 6th grade class because he thinks it has a calming effect on children, that’s ok? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pi_QRA8rVY
            What about little Tyla’s culture where they chew the coca plant? Ok with that too? What about a little Jack in the OJ before nap time because it helps the kiddies sleep better? Ok? No I’m not saying poppy seeds are the same. The system in this case is just trying to protect children and respect parental rights! THE SAME PARENTAL RIGHTS THAT THIS ARTICLE IS DISCUSSING!!

          • Bring food preprepared in packages with ingredients listed.
            Bring food made at home with ingredients listed.
            Your child (or the state, i.e., stranger) chooses what your child eats.
            Not all over the place.
            If you’re not talking life threatening allergies, why else would you impose your preference on the rest of the class? Do you go into Starbucks and demand that they remove their poppy seeded offerings?

            Weed is illegal in schools. Poppy seeds are not. Apples and oranges.

            And it’s “you’re” and “principal.”

            You keep saying that you don’t like people who rant and complain, but all of your comments are fairly offensive, rude and emotional to the point of hysteria. Yes, we get it. You don’t like poppy seeds. Some of us do – there are no rules saying they can’t come into schools. They are not illegal. There are even packaged foods that contain poppy seeds as an ingredient. They are not being force fed to your child if they enter school property, though. If you are not satisfied with this, you can put your energy into having your school add this as a rule! However, it would probably be more useful to teach your child to say, no thank you.

          • Are you daft! I’m not arguing that poppy seeds are illegal. Nor am I trying to impose my preferences! If bringing poppy seed muffins is allowed then so be it. I’m just arguing that some parents may object, which is why my school district has that rule. If yours doesn’t, then I guess that’s why you live where you live and I live where I live! Seems like a pretty simple argument! Allowed=do it but be prepared. Not allowed=Don’t do it! Your Starbucks comment is just weird! I’m not even sure what you’re arguing any more!

          • What exactly is your school’s rule? If you are arguing for the “system” then define it. The “system” is not federally prescribed and school districts vary. Is this “rule” that you are alluding to that no noncommercial goods are allowed into your school or that no poppy seeds are allowed into your school or something else entirely? And I’m curious to know (without the added “what are you smoking” and “are you daft” emotional interjections) how if you say “don’t give my kid a poppy seed muffin!” it works with your particular system if it is a store bought good that includes poppy seeds. The point about Starbucks is as adults we choose our foods. We should be teaching our children to make proper food choices WITHOUT imposing our proper food ideas on others. I’m also curious to know if kids are allowed to bring foods from home for their own lunch. (And again, your points are better taken and understood if they are systematic, leave out the emotional hype, and you’ll make better sense.)

            Food policy in my area school district had little influence on how we ended up living where we live. Job opportunities were a major factor, as I suspect is true with the majority of people.

          • I AM NOT ARGUING TO IMPOSE MY FOOD CHOICES ON ANYONE! If its against the rules then don’t do it! You can Google that info if you want, I get the impression that it won’t help with this conversation. But you are right about the language in my post. If I wanted to be heard I could have toned it down but it feels as if you’re just arguing with me for the sake of argument. You can refer to some of the other posts above to see that my district isn’t the only one with these restrictions. I have no idea about prepackaged products with poppy seeds? Thanks to you, I will find out!

          • I would be happy to Google your district and learn more about its food policy. What district did you say it was again?

      • This, in a nutshell, perfectly illustrates how far our society has fallen from sanity in recent years. Poppy seeds, for crying out loud! Sheesh.

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        • The next time I make them, I’m going to do a test. Let’s put all this histeria “n crap” to an end and then BC will have nothing to rant about. Actaully it’s clear BC will always have lots to rant about. I hear poppy seed have a calming effect. Try them! Maybe next time I bring a healthy snack to school I’ll try banana muffins. But then I have to worry about the alcohol in the bananas. Oh what a conundrum!

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          • Make jokes all you want. You shouldn’t be giving poppy seeds to someone else’s kid. You could look at this as a warning, but hey I’m sure none of the parents are like me! You’re wrong! Try to reverse the situation. I’m sure you can think of something that some people might find acceptable for their children, but you just don’t agree with. It’s ok for them to give your kid something to eat, drink or inhale? Because they think its ok?! Be careful spreading that logic!

        • No, you’re wrong and if you dont have the time to just Google it, I can provide you with dozens of sites! But the point is she has no right to give something to someone else’s kid that she knows some parents might not agree with! She thinks she knows best?! How is she any better than the school she’s complaining about! Keep your poppy seed muffins to yourself!

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        • That would be true if those cute little muffins weren’t being fed to cute little children, much smaller than the guy at mythbusters.

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      • OH my! Poppy seeds, heroin… geez. THIS IS CRAZY! There was a case in Dubai, you know, one of the most conservative, dry and dangerous places to be caught with a poppy roll on this planet. Where a man spent 4 years in the Dubai prison, for having a poppy seed roll after he got off the plane coming from the U.K. So what you’re telling me, is that the US has become worse than Dubai? How ridiculous is that notion? Do I believe it? Yes, of course, but why is it like that? Because we sponsor this system. Homeschooling your children is like putting a band aid on a headless corpse.

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    • When this happened to me it encouraged my mom and I to start a real food club at my school so that people that don’t know what they are eating (or never thought about it) can learn what real food is. I think that they should take that chance for a health class so that people can understand what this is all about.

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  153. This story illustrates the ridiculous power being wielded by an over zealous school administrator. Yes, this child will always remember this incident of being singled out by the powers that be, made to feel and look different (in a bad way), punished for nothing. The administrator should be publicly reprimanded by the school board and by the parents. I worked in schools and occasionally saw power wielding. It’s shameful.

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  154. Makenzie Akers via Facebook October 12, 2012 at 10:56 am

    Well since alcohol is a byproduct of the fermentation and since I brew my own I never take mine to work, and I would never send a kind to school with it. If it’s the kind from the store them that’s another story. Save it for an after school treat if it’s homemade. I agree with the school, but think the punishment is unnecessary. It was just a misunderstanding and a warning is all that is warranted.

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  155. Ugh, how insane! The public school system is out of control. I feel just horrible for this little boy! Reading stories like this really cement my belief in schooling at home. I’m thankful my kids can eat and drink whatever I as their mother deem good and healthy, without strangers coming in and bullying them. Personal freedoms are being trampled on more and more…. things we thought would “never happen” at school are happening more and more, and by the teachers, administrators and adult authorities, no less! Homeschool, baby.

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    • yup homeschool. my baby is 4 1/2 months and i’m sure smarter then the other kids her age as we already do ABC, colors, and shapes. As well as read to her. Homeschool Homeschool Homeschool

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    • I’ve said this before but it seems it needs repeating on this site. A lot! I don’t know your situation but homeschooling isn’t the answer for everyone. The more people who pull their kids out of public schools to home school or to attend private only weaken the system. Those left in the system will be the children who don’t have anyone looking out for them, single parent homes who work multiple jobs, orphans, wards of the state, foster parents not to mention the kids born to parents who don’t care! This is not socially responsible but at least YOUR kid will be OK!

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      • parents raise kids, not the community October 12, 2012 at 1:27 pm

        BC, I appreciate your wanting to look out for everyone so no one falls through the cracks, but “The System” IS the problem. It is your job as a parent to raise your children, teach them morals, teach them how to think and learn for themselves, it is NOT a community’s job!! If each parent did this, we’d have a community in unison with like-mindedness on how to behave. We’d have a heck of alot more children with better knowledge because they would have been taught how to learn themselves (to search for knowledge and find the answers to their questions themselves instead of taking someone else’s as their own). Nowadays, indoctrination and conforming is the norm in our schools. Look at where our nation is, how’s that indoctrination and conforming working? Yeah, we have a generation (each one getting worse), that lacks morals and confiction. Our children aren’t safe anymore. No matter what the school system or the community does, NOTHING replaces what a child learns from their parents. It’s not the community or the system that needs to step up, it’s the parents who feel it’s not their responsibilty to raise their own kids. When someone else spends the greater part of the day with your kids and not you, YOU are NOT the influence in your child’s life.

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      • OK, so I should sacrifice my children in order to perpetuate the cesspool that is the public school system? I think NOT.

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      • You’re basically saying no child left behind = ALL children left behind. It is socially irresponsible to say that all children should be and are equal (and is exactly what the state teaches.) We are all unique and incomparable, with different abilities, talents, experiences, families, feelings, etc. I believe homeschooling serves my kids best. Just because I care doesn’t mean I should treat my children like the “parents who don’t care.” Your suggestion just doesn’t make any sense to me at all.

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      • @BC – if all the “good” children from healthy families are pulled out of the broken, ineffectual system which is public school in this country, perhaps that will be the greatest catalyst for change! I’ve heard your argument before – in fact, the principal of a local public school said the same thing to *my* mom when she pulled me and my siblings out to homescool us. But the bottom line is, individual patents are responsible for *their* children, to protect them and give them the best possible education. As others have said, sacrificing them for some hypothetical good that may or may not come from keeping them in public school is irresponsible parenting to put it mildly. No, not everyone is able to homeschool. But many, many parents who *say* they aren’t able simply aren’t willing. Perhaps when it’s *their* child being bullied, sexually harassed, forced to eat unhealthy school food, slipping through the cracks academically, or otherwise suffering in the broken public school system, the so-called good of the community will fall to second place behind the welfare of their own child.

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        • Bullying isn’t acceptable! But what are you teaching your kid! Run away! Take your kid if you want just shut up while you’re doing it! You remind me of a friend who always complains about the “system!” It never occurred to him to do anything about it! Run for office, boycott, petition or any number of options would work but noooo, the system is too broken to fix. You guys are laughable! Bullying can happen to adults and just because you protected them as children doesn’t mean you can be there for them as an adult! And now they don’t have the skills to deal! But I’m sure you’ll always be there to tell how bad the rest of the world is and how great they are! Most of you act like you’ve staked out moral high ground but you just come across like selfish idiots bordering on schizophrenia! So please do us all a favor and shut up! Its distracting me from my futile attempt to change the world!

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        • Im gonna go out on a limb and say you don’t ask the doctor treating your child if he was home schooled? Some how they made it out of that broken system and you trust their expertise? You’re right about the people who say they aren’t able to. Most of us just don’t want to! What books do your children read? Any classics? What music do you listen to? Do you appreciate the arts? Who built your computer? Who designed your car? All of these examples are dominated by public school alum? But judging by your post, I’m sure you teach only from material generated by people home schooled. And you do so by candle light, while listening to a recording of your own singing??

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      • I just can’t help but wonder why you are such a cheerleader for “the system” when it’s obvious that it does NOT work for families, but to destroy families.

        Now, why would someone promote that? Why would someone discourage, repeatedly, those who will rescue their children from this system?

        You apparently were well-indoctrinated into the system that you would not only praise it for yourself and yours but also want others to stay in it. Why? Your arguments don’t make any sense, just from a common sense standpoint. Apparently you didn’t study very well in logic class or English or debate. Or, maybe the system failed you in providing an actual education. But they did great with the brainwashing. Your love for the system is obvious.

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  156. Nathan Fischer's Eider Janes via Facebook October 12, 2012 at 10:54 am

    Homeschool..just another reason. The school is ok with pumping pepsi or coke into your child though.

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  157. Erin Bark via Facebook October 12, 2012 at 10:52 am

    The teachers do not actually eat with their students in a public school. The lunch police are there keeping order and being strict. They are not required to be educated just show up for work and be good at taking misbehaving children out.

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  158. Natacha Dority via Facebook October 12, 2012 at 10:52 am

    Was it the kind with alcohol though? If it were then can you blame them? Stupid of the parent or guardian to pack that in a lunch IF it were the kind that contained alcohol. I think a parent/principal conference was in order though NOT a suspension, poor kid. :(

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  159. The very fact that there are lunch police in schools is ridiculous. If I were that mom, I would be proactive and go after the Newport-Mesa School District for harassing my child instead of waiting to see if they were going to take further disciplinary action against the family. So it’s ok to have soda and candy vending machines in schools, but bringing in kombucha is criminal? That boy needs to have an apology from everyone involved in this situation.

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    • “Why can’t schools just focus on … say … schooling?” Because the very purpose of the public school system is to indoctrinate the children so they will accept the STATE as their parents (parens patriae). No one commented that this child’s parents weren’t called – the police were.

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      • I totally agree with what you say the purpose of the public school system is–to indoctrinate children to accept the state as their parents. I JUST watched this documentary last night: http://agendadocumentary.com/ I encourage anyone reading this to watch the trailer and check out the website. We stand on the brink here at this point in history and if it doesn’t turn around quickly, it may be generations from now, with lots of heartache in between, before freedom is restored again.

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        • @Jill- I just watched the trailer you recommended because this is a subjest I have been studying for months. Although much of the information in it is true, I was disappointed with the political slant this documentary takes because this isn’t the fault of one political party over another. My research shows me that this is something being done on both the right and left. It was, after all, Papa Bush who kick started Agenda 21.

          I am in no way discrediting the film “Agenda.” i am sure that it is filled with a lot of interesting information. I just want people who are new to this subject to be aware that this goes beyond Democrat and Republican. It is all of them verses us. Period. For anyone who is new to how the government is slowly taking over our lives, I suggest investigating Agenda 21, New World Order, Bilderberg, FEMA camps, HAARP and chem-trails. Start layering the masses of information and it becomes very difficult to deny that something very scary is going on here.

          My friends think I wear a tin-foil hat, but look at the Executive Orders that Obama has signed in the last few months allowing our military to arrest anyone they see as a threat (NDAA) and the one allowing the government to come onto our property and sieze our food, livestock, seed and farm equipment. A quick study of most Executive Orders and you will see that in a heartbeat every single thing we know as normal will be taken away, roads shut down and all communication systems shut off. So, I might be the goober wearing the tin foil hat, but history does repeat itself and I plan on being ready.

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          • You’re so right about Communist infiltration – look at the big banks; privatize the gains; socialize the losses. And you think it’s just the Dems in on this?
            Think again.

          • Susan–as a lifelong conservative, I, too, started researching the subjects you mentioned a couple of years ago. While there is disinformation galore floating around, after a while the real stuff takes on a sort of shine and the astute observer can differentiate the wheat from the chaff.

            Shortly after “waking up”, I pulled my kid from his public middle school to educate him at home. The more I learn the more relieved I am for having taken this step; as a matter of fact, I find it astonishing that more parents haven’t made the same rescue mission on behalf of their children. Do I ever second-guess myself? Sure–I was raised within the system and was as brain-washed as any; it takes time to deprogram. However, even if my child learns NOTHING under my tutelage, he will be better off than he would be if he stayed in school. Of that I am convinced.

            Thanks for your thoughtful post. I have lost friends due to my “awakening” (and I never did trumpet my findings, only tested the waters in hopes of discussing); count your blessings that you have tolerant friends! Being awake can be lonely, though the tides are slowly shifting.

          • Susan2- I think it is really, really awesome that you pulled your child from public school. Good for you! I know its hard, but don’t ever doubt yourself! You are absolutely, without a doubt, teaching your child more than any public school ever could! I’m sure it must seem tough sometimes, but the best things usually are!! :)

            I have to wonder when friends reject us for thinking and believing as we do, if they will be the first ones to knock on our doors when the SHTF. Yeah, I may be a kook for saving food and water and doing other things to prepare, but I figure at worst I am well prepared for an earthquake if need be. What’s the harm in that? And if things become worse than that, I’m ready for that, too.

            You are correct that the tide is slowly starting to change, but so many people simply will not ever buy into this concept. Good little sheeple. In the meantime, you can come on over to my house and we can compare our prep lists. Just be sure to bring your tin foil hat!!

          • Susan, you should stop looking towards Natural News for your source of information. While the government definitely doesn’t have our best interests in mind, they aren’t plotting something ridiculously sinister as a lof of the subjects you mentioned suggest. No one is taking your pigs!!! Jesus, I swear, more and more people are turning towards tin foil hats. You’re more brainwashed for believing that rubish than believing the government is here to help us. And stop calling people sheeple, you’re a sheeple for buying into Glenn Beck and Alex Jones’ insane ideas. Next you’re going to start actually believing all the strife in the world is caused by lizard people who live in the middle of Earth who pull strings.

      • I agree with you I’d have that principal in front of a judge seeking damages so fast It would make their heads spin! The parents need to stand up or they’ll get away with it and continue to think it’s OK to do this to kids.

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  160. I can underr the kid. My parents went up to my school because I was placed in a school program that my parents weren’t aware of and I didn’t get breaks. My dad asked the teacher to accompany him to the principle’s office. My dad placed his hand slightly on her back and my teacher pretended to fall over then said my dad pushed her. So then I had students come up to me, asking me what my dad did. I got harassment from another student and he tried to break me. Teachers need to watch themselves. I bet they smelled the tea and since it smells like beer, they took it. Dumb.

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  161. “…and could even result in bullying or snide remarks from classmates…”

    Seems logical for the classmates to bully him, the school leadership and law enforcement already has.

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  162. Diane Keith via Facebook October 12, 2012 at 10:44 am

    Makes me even more thankful that I homeschool. However, regardless of your educational choices, this is yet another example of the government and its representatives are overstepping their boundaries…especially with regards to parental rights. It should not be tolerated.

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  163. Mel N Ian via Facebook October 12, 2012 at 10:44 am

    homeschool, yes, BUT for those who can’t that’s NO REASON for STUPIDITY!!! taking a stand for things as simple as health… aaaaarg… i’m mad… that’s just wrong

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  164. What to say, these incidents are becoming more common and are so sad to hear. What we deem acceptable is disturbing. They don’t even own up to the possible implications these types of bullying-style interrogations can have on a child, it’s sickening. I’m happy you were able to step in and help this family and also that the suspension was revoked but it should have never played out this way to begin with.
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  165. Oh, this is what we need, educators who are so uneducated that they can’t google the word Kombucha and LEARN that it’s not alcohol – Lacto-fermented does NOT equal alcohol. My 10 yr old could figure that out (if he didn’t already know that).

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    • There is actually a trace amount of alcohol in kombucha. Check the label of a commercially-produced brand for confirmation. It’s just such a small amount that it’s not effective, and it can be sold as a non-alcoholic beverage.

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  166. Carrie Rhodes Babin via Facebook October 12, 2012 at 10:41 am

    This would put me on the 10:00 News! I hope the child does not suffer from the experience, but becomes more aware of the the intrusion and ignorance of our government.

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  167. My in-laws live adjacent to this school district, so we know the area well. That town is well known for their heavy-handed, controlling attitudes in multiple ways and in every part of the town’s political structure.

    This just goes to show how very ignorant educators have become. They could pull the racial card if the boy had been of Asian descent, as this is a traditional Asian drink.

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  168. Just one more reason to pull him out of the school system and homeschool him, where he can eat real, healthy food without fear of intimidation and harrassment. Their system only survives and thrives as long as it has enough people in it.

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    • Yes because everyone has the time or the education to do so?? You are right about the system surviving though! I don’t know your individual situation but to advise everyone to take their kids out of the system is ridiculous and not socially responsible. The community would be better served if we all worked together to make the system better.

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      • You don’t need “education” to homeschool — you simply have to love your kids more than the school does and be willing to help them learn. If you can read, you can homeschool. If you are too stupid to educate yourself on how to homeschool your kid you probably should just turn your kids over to CPS now and be done with it. Time is another subjective manner– whose kids AREN’t worth the time?? You don’t need to school your kids 8 hours a day during traditional times– fit learning into your lifestyle. If you need to change your lifestyle to make room for your kids then…. do it! But stuff like this has been happening in the schools for decades now. Anyone who continues to send their kids to school needs to be prepared to yank them out. “The community” is not entitled to my kids’ suffering to try to fix a problem that is inherent in the system itself. Read up on John Taylor Gatto working for decades to ‘make the system better’ [and winning teacher of the year awards doing it] and deciding that it’s a futile effort. Trying to tape up a broken piece of plastic w/ my kids is ridiculous and socially irresponsible too. No thanks. If they screw up w/ my kid, they lose my help. And I say that as a homeschool mom of 5 that put my 2d in a unique public high school last year. The schools exist to serve the students, not vice versa.

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        • Me! Me! Me! For every well mannered intelligent home schooled kid I have met, I have met just as many who are socially inept idiots with little discipline. And the parents think these kids are GREAT! Not all parents are created equal as it is with schools! Yes I run into far more idiots from public schools but that just sheer numbers! There are many reason a parent could choose to home school. I’m not lumping everyone into one group. When your grown up child is car jacked, yeah I bet the guy did attend public school! That’s partly my point. Stop complaining about system you continue help break!

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          • Repeating over and over that homeschoolers help ‘break’ the system does not make it true. Again, I ask you, have you been able to produce meaningful change within the system? Perhaps your school is a good school, so then I ask, should you remove your child from the good school and put him/her into a troubled school so that you can fix the system from within? If you don’t, are you ‘breaking’ their school.

            I know plenty of teachers who homeschool because they refuse to put their own children into an unhealthy situation.

            If after my children have reached mature adulthood they want to tackle the broken system, I would absolutely support their efforts! But until they mature, it is my job to make sure that they are fed emotionally, spiritually and educationally healthy information.

          • There is no fixing the “system”, it is doing exactly what it was designed to do, produce low-reasoning worker bees. That’s the way our government and businesses would like it, the fewer people there are who are able to challenge their authority, the easier it is to keep us dependent on the “system”.

            This is not to say there aren’t noble people who go into teaching with the desire to “make a difference”, but the truth is they get squashed at every turn. Those in control only give lip service to the idea of helping every child reach their potential, the real agenda is to keep them under their thumb.

          • Fascinating. Guess what?
            The system is so FUBARed that it honestly does not deserve anyone’s children in it. There is a reason we are behind many countries in education and it is not the fault of Home Schoolers. It is the Public School system we continue to pump more and more money into with zero positive results. In fact we would be far better off if we looked at some of the best Home School systems and implemented some of their methods in the public School. We would likely get back in the top 5 for Education and could probably do it at far less cost then we do now being in the bottom of the rankings…

            If you are interested in fixing the system, then help remove the Federal interference so the State and Local people can fix this crapsandwich we have for an Public Education System. That one move would do wonders all by itself.
            Then learn what works from our Home Schoolers.
            Then get those idiots in charge to understand that kids are not cookies, our cookie cutter method of education does not work for everyone nor will it ever. We could probably get more kids interested in learning and more interested in Higher Education if we dispensed with the idiocy of one size fits all in education…

            As far as discipline goes, discipline is not the School’s responsibility and has not been since we dispensed with corporal punishment within said schools. Discipline is the parents job and that being crap these days for most kids is the result of far different reasons than how those kids were schooled…

            As far as idiots go, Schooling does not cure idiocy. This is made apparent by the moniker “Educated Idiot”. Idiots can go to College and get more education but they do not stop being idiots…

          • @Rage, there’s quite a few things in your post that I agree with. Public schools can learn a thing or two from the Home schooling system.
            If you are interested in fixing the system, then help remove the Federal interference so the State and Local people can fix this crapsandwich-AGREE. And I am actively fighting that battle.
            We could probably get more kids interested in learning and more interested in Higher Education if we dispensed with the idiocy of one size fits all in education…-Agree. This has been done to some extent, but we need to go a lot further.
            Your discipline comment?? I’m not sure we’re using the term in the same manner. Because, I agree, corporal punishment has no place in school.
            As far as idiots go, Schooling does not cure idiocy. This is made apparent by the moniker “Educated Idiot”. Idiots can go to College and get more education but they do not stop being idiots…-Agree
            While I’m quite certain that was directed at me, I still agree. ;o)
            Sure there are a few points I disagree with, but when you find you’re agreement with most of your opponents points, I see no reason to argue about the ones we disagree on.

        • Natural Nutrition Nurse October 12, 2012 at 4:48 pm

          Peek A Boo, I think we are kindred spirits. I love the work of John Taylor Gattos. Have you checked out the podcast School Sucks? My daughter already homeschools (16) my 12 year old son wants to go to middle school with his friends but tells me daily of the ridiculous crap that goes on there. He got detention during the second week of school for forgetting to have me sign a form stating military service. He was in detention with kids that had been fighting, sassing teachers and were caught making out on campus. I already opened a can of whoop ass on the school for this one. One more incident and he is out like it or not!

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          • Oh yeah, that would be the be a great reason to yank a kid from school?! There are reasons to remove your kid from a school but just because you don’t like the rules or you find the enforcement of these rules problematic?? What are you really teaching your kids! You guys remind of the kid who cries about the rules of the game so he takes his ball and goes home! You could change the rules, help create a different game or learn the rules of this game! That kid didn’t make any friends but at least he can drink kombucha and his mother loves him. lol!

        • Not everyone can homeshool their children. Some of us work full time! I agree that the public schools are crap, but we need to work to fix them, as well as do what we can to teach critical thinking skills during the time we have with our children. Stop voting for establishment politicians is a good step in the right direction!

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          • There are parents who work full-time and still educate their children at home. There are single parents who homeschool. I have friends who work opposite shifts so that their kids can be home educated. Another friend of mine is an engineer. She works while Dad (who used to be a public school teacher and says he would NEVER send his kids to public school) homeschools their three kids. If you can read, you can homeschool.

            If you downsize your life, you will often find that one parent staying home leads to a better outcome for the whole family, and supports homeschooling as well. If you are not willing to downsize or make the financial sacrifices that go along with being a one-income family, which is common, then of course homeschooling would be impossible.

          • Working for change is nice for future generations, but change is slow and I’m not willing to donate my time (and sacrifice my kids) to change the system. I put that time into homeschooling my kids.

          • The entire notion of – if you can read – you can homeschool is absurd. Anyone saying that is lucky in that department. While living in the US, my wife and I worked from morning till late evening and barely made the bills. Please, enlighten me on how, when getting home nearly kid’s bed time, would I been able to teach my children? Good one. I’ve since left the states and don’t have to worry about the abysmal school policies, disgusting and poisonous GMO filled foods and the prison like environment in schools. We made a decision to vote with our feet and not feed that system a single penny of our earnings ever again. They have failed us and they have failed our children, the last straw was the fact that my child was unable to attend a preschool, simply because she she didn’t get the flue vaccination. There are many things we can do for our children, homeschooling is one, but it’s definitely not the best of choices. Sending kids to public schools, teaches them about society and its rules and boundaries, children learn how to cope with social issues and learn to understand them from within. Homeschooling parents like to dispute that argument, yet this is 100% accurate. The reason why we see the flaws in the system, is because we had been a part of it and have a solid reference point. I think the best thing that you can teach your child, is that this world is their home, not a town, a state or a country. The most powerful message is that if you don’t like something, then change it, don’t hide out and hope for the best. We all want to give our children the world… well, it’s really that simple. Millions come to the US from third world countries, around 3 million Americans vote with their feet annually. That’s a fact. If you want to change the system, you must stop supporting it by financing it. The only way to do that, is to leave.
            Just some food for thought. I don’t expect and would never expect everyone to agree, leaving your homeland is not for everyone, but it does have benefits. I now enjoy 26 vacation days per year [by law], 30 sick days, great free health care and my children will attend great universities for free. In schools there are no cameras, no police presence and no GMO foods, for it is banned in my new homeland. By the way, for the right wingers who will without a doubt call me a commie – I’ve lived under communism before so please spare me your nonsense, and I now live in a western democratic society… it is possible. Think globally!

          • @Ralf: I’ll try to explain this so that you will understand. I’m not attacking you, so please don’t read snarkiness into what I am saying. Words can be easily misread in a forum such as this.

            1) If you can read, you can homeschool. Period. Means just that. You do not need a college degree, or courses in education. If you are willing to learn yourself, you can teach your children. Studies have shown absolutely no difference in outcome based on the parents’ education level. Willingness to teach is what is most important. For the record, homeschooled students surpass public-schooled students on all standardized tests, often by a substantial margin.

            2) If you are unable to homeschool because you are working to pay the bills, then you have a few options. Very few people are so genuinely poor that they require both parents to work from sunup to sundown to pay basic living expenses. Many however, are stuck because of poor financial choices in the past or present. Most homeschoolers I know sacrifice a great deal to stay home and teach their children, and quite a few have large families. We don’t have fancy cars, big houses, and the like. We personally do not have cable (don’t even have a TV), drive 10 year old cars, and use a prepaid cell phone (averages $10 a month). I make my own cleaners, cook almost all of our food, garden, and we rarely eat out or go out. We are willing to do this because the rewards (our children) are worth it. Now, if you *have* to have the latest gadgets, $100 a month phone, all the cable channels, big-screen TV, huge house, new cars, eating out all the time, etc., then yes, you probably have to work a lot longer to pay for it all. I don’t know your situation while you lived in the U.S., but there were probably ways for you to cut your expenses. It’s a matter of priorities. I want my children to have a superior education, other people choose gadgets. Their choice, not mine.

            3) Sending kids to public schools *does* teach them how to cope with social issues. It teaches them to shut their mouths, downplay their intelligence, avoid hard work, not to question authority, succumb to peer pressure, get bullied, have sex before they are ready for the consequences, take drugs and/or drink, and above all to “fit in” no matter what. I’m sure I’ve missed a few of the “benefits” of public school in this short list. Just saying something is “100% accurate” doesn’t make it true. I have yet to meet a homeschooled child who isn’t generally respectful and well-behaved (excepting some children with special needs who would be that way regardless of their schooling), and we have now homeschooled in three different states. I’m sure there are some poorly educated and socially inept homeschoolers out there, I just haven’t met any. I have, however, met many poorly educated and socially inept public schoolers, including members of my own family. My children, while certainly not perfect, get along with people of ALL ages, not just their peers, which is the true definition of socialization. Homeschoolers are actively courted by colleges/universities and employers.

            I’m glad you were able to vote with your feet. It sounds like you care about your kids. Unfortunately many parents do not, or at least their actions would imply that they do not. The fact that we are both reading The Healthy Home Economist would suggest that we have a lot in common in our food philosophies.

          • Raif – hands down, Europe has better food. However, what will you do when your new homeland becomes a Muslim majority, you have 365 of days off due to economic collapse or something else occurs that is in conflict with what you wish for your children’s schooling? You will have no option to homeschool. My family left communism too, but at least in the US, we still have choices. People aren’t shot in the street or disappeared . . . yet. All of the same underlying ideas with the state owing your children also exist in the EU. Moving elsewhere is checking out of the system as much as you say homeschooling is – you didn’t really do anything to change your community. You just found one that best fit your ideal. (Much like homeschool families.)

        • ‘“The community” is not entitled to my kids’ suffering to try to fix a problem that is inherent in the system itself.’

          Word. What is up with people who think I should let my kid suffer for years for the sake of bettering something that can’t be bettered? Prove my solidarity? How very noble… Humans are not made to fit into a system. Systems don’t breathe, humans do.

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          • If you have no interest in your community, so be it but you people shit on a system you help break! You guys are that whiny little kid who doesn’t like the rules of the game so he decides to take his ball and go home. Lol! yeah its your right but it doesn’t stop u from looking like whiny little B! And last I checked most of the advances in society have come from people who were the product of public schools! But those home schoolers sure can spell and while they have few social issues, at least their mommy loves them! lol!

          • Actually we have a great interest in our community, starting with the basic block of the community – the family. Your comment sounds like the kid nobody will play with because he dictates all the rules without any negotiation. So some people homeschool, you don’t think it’s best for you, but who put you in charge of “best” for the rest of us? Any why do you assume homeschoolers do so as a reaction? What about the wealthy who almost exculsively use private schools? I hope you make the same points to them.

          • I’m not dictating the rules. If the game is basketball, you must pardon all those silly kids who don’t want to join your little genius in trying to kick the ball in the basket! Then play by yourself and shut up! And let the rest of us go about our miserable game. It’s been my experience that those who are happy with their lives, don’t need to complain. They need to complain about “them over there” so that “us over here” can feel better! If you’ve done the right thing for your child then whats the need to complain about public schools??? Do you feel better??

          • Where is the rule that says I’m not allowed to homeschool aside from in your imaginary world?

            The only person calling their kid a genius here has been *you.*

            I am not complaining about public schools, only about the whiners who complain everyone should be there. I am thankful to have choices and these choices are within the “rules” of the game. We homeschool because it is our best option, not because we are angry at public schools.

            Sorry if you want to play basketball but have experienced others deciding to play soccer instead. If the basketball game is miserable, as you say, why would you expect others to stick around?

          • If you’re not complaining about public schools then I’m not talking to you! There is no rule that would bar you from educating your kids the way you like. And if there were, I would be first in line to fight it. I am talking to those who chose to bash public schools in order to justify taking their kids of out. You don’t need to justify why you took your kid out to me, but if you do so by bashing the “system” then yes you should expect someone might disagree,

          • I never took my kids out. They just never went. Most people I know headed into the kid rearing thing with the idea of homeschooling. There are reasons to homeschool that are not reactionary.

            If you tease the private school kids that they helped “break” the system, then aren’t you saying the system has long been broken? We’ve always had a significant number of kids in private schools.

          • I’m not against homeschooling! And I’m not the biggest fan of our public schooling system. But I am pro system! Many places don’t have a “system.” We are lucky to have some sort of system! If it’s broken, as a part of the community I feel obliged to help fix it. If you don’t then so be it! That’s another great thing about our system. You have choices! You denigrate the very system that allows for that choice. Yes, the public school system is your government. As with any other part of government here, if you don’t like it, change it! If you have no interest then shut up and get out of the way! And should you choose to mouth off about the “system”, using sometimes flawed logic. That again is your right. But its also within my rights to tell you how ridiculous your argument is.

          • And not that it matters, but I was not talking about YOUR kids. The jokes are directed at the parents. I am not making fun of anyone’s actual kids!

  169. wow…so sad. keep up posted! i’m in california with a young child in school who drinks kamboucha. IF anything happens to these parents, please let us know so I can bombard them with emails and phone calls. Maybe we can also get some of the kombucha companies involved like GT Kombucha to vouch for the family!

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    • Why? Because the processed food and beverage giants see the increase of these nourishing, traditional, homemade foods as a threat to their marketshare domination, and their minions the registered dieticians who oversee the school lunch programs are funded and influenced by the likes of Coca Cola.

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  170. Kimberly Alyssa via Facebook October 12, 2012 at 10:34 am

    unbelievable! i have heard other stories if schools taking kids healthy packed luncges and making them eat the fake processed gmo crap they serve! school lunches are a HUGE concern and its unacceptable that we allow it!

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    • Not only that – WHY wasn’t the explanation satisfactory to them?

      Shocking and sick how they seized on the opportunity to punish the poor boy.

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  171. Tina Zanetti via Facebook October 12, 2012 at 10:32 am

    Wow! Best to educate your kids at home, if you can. The only way to make sure they eat well and also learn values that no longer exist in school.

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  172. Thank you for helping this family, Sarah. What was done to that innocent child was inexcusable, and those responsible are unfit to have any authority over children.

    And to think that they never even tested the drink!

    What makes it even more despicable is that kombucha is far healthier than a soft drink in a plastic, chemical leeching bottle, which the school would have no problem with.

    And using a police officer to intimidate and bully an innocent child? Who only brought the lunch his mother gave him?
    Lunch police? Who the heck needs lunch police?

    These days, the public schools are often run like prisons in the old Soviet Union. For those who can do it, homeschooling is a great alternative.

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    • It’s time to contact a civil lawyer and sue those involved. They should bring the shock and awe right back to those autogenecidal school nazis.

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      • I agree!! Really school lunches are the ultimate unhealthy food!! We make most everything from scratch in this household. I am a spitfire and trust me the evening news and a lawyer would have been involved. Uneducated, uninformed, foolish bullies!!

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    • Sarah, please let this family know that they are now heroes in the eyes of many!

      Inadvertently and unwittingly, they have become the symbol of a nurturing family that takes the necessary steps to nourish and protect their children and provide them the best possible start in life in the face of commercially-driven forces that seek to thwart such efforts.

      This family is to be applauded!

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    • as far as the information i have..pink slim was only used in beef products…so pink slim nuggets was a bit much…and i can see watching what kids are bringing…but at some point we have to be the ones who get to say what our kids eat…rather it be a well balanced meal or lunchable….what one can afford as long as it was enough for nutrional needs…is all good in my book…people compain about how parents r not involved…and your not even allowed to pack a lunch…why bother…your rights have already been take bit by bit….

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      • “Pink Slime” is not an additive used in beef products. The processing industry introduced another method of getting more meat off the bones, separating meat from muscle & tendons, etc., reducing waste. I think they use steam. At any rate it lightened the color of ground beef. Some idiot reporter who saw it coined the phrase “pink slime” and all the other idiots sent the phrase around the world in record time. The Humane Society of the United States would like to see all animal use stopped entirely. They are not part of the government and trade on the name of the good local humane societies who do take care of stray animals. They have successfully, severely shut down the pork and chicken industries in two states and are working in all others. In 2011 only .4 of the budget went to animal shelters while 24% went to salaries, 39% went to fund raising!, 2% to pensions and 3% went to lobbying.

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        • Pink Slime is not an additive, it is what you get after the carcass of the pig or fowl has been run through the blender of mechanical separation. You should watch a video on YouTube of mechanically separated meats, though I suggest you do it on an empty stomach and with no children present. Beef is not allowed to be mechanically separated, thanks to mad cow disease, but chicken nuggets, unless labeled 100% white meat, typically are made of the slime. I am not as “natural” a cook as I hope to one day be but I check everything I buy and if it has mechanically separated meat in the ingredients I do not buy it or serve it.

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          • I do believe that the process is used on beef. The “pink slime” misnomer, when it was first coined, shut down some beef processing plants. Nevertheless the product is just as nutritious as original ground beef. I live in the heart of beef country so getting good beef is not a problem. However, in the large cities and the coasts one needs to beware of imported products. For instance the meat from Mexico does not have to undergo the rigorous inspections that our own does, especially for cleanliness. As for mad cow disease, only those animals which have been fed a diet into which other animal wastes have been mixed in are at risk to get it. Canada and Europe allow such practices. The United States does not.

    • How dare you accuse the officer of intimidation and bullying. I am in law enforcement and have had to respond to situations involving children, luckily none as crazy as this. The officer’s presence was a part of the investigatory process. The officer has a duty to make sure the child is in no danger. The only thing I read, regarding the officer, was that the officer warned the child of the dangers of the drink and asked the child if he was taking any medications.

      Since you feel so free to assume the officer was a bully, I choose to assume you are one of those asinine people who threaten children into good behavior by telling them, “that officer over there is going to take you to jail if you don’t start behaving.”

      Maybe children would not be “intimidated and bullied” by the presence of the police if parents didn’t turn the police into the enemy.

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      • Anne L,
        Pretty much every experience I have had with the police in the past 10 years, when I have been a victim of a crime, the police did not act like my friend. When police are running rampant as paramilitary squads, calling people “civilians” as though they themselves are not civilians and members of a military organization, maybe they wont be construed by an ever growing majority of the population as “intimidating bullies”. When police stop shooting people who are unarmed, then the “thin blue line” does everything they can to cover for their “brother in blue” for victimizing innocent people, then maybe I will take your words as sincere. Until the Police begin to act as men and women of integrity, who sincerely take their oaths to serve and protect the Constitution and the People assembled under it, I will continue to see Police Officers as a front line threat to my physical well being and my God given rights to Liberty.

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        • amen to that,
          yeah and thats the sad thing. what happend to the days when an officer of the law would see someone broke down on the side of the road and stop to help them out? ive been broken down and waved at cops to help and they just pass like they got donuts to eat.

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          • Wow, that’s a lot of talk coming from two people who have absolutely NO idea what it’s like to be a police officer. Smh

      • first of all, how DARE you assume that he wasnt. you and any officer that tells someone something they dont know about is IGNORANT. yes, because you can tell me all day the sky is green and im not going to agree with you. just because a cop said something doesnt mean its true. in fact, ive been lied to more by police officers than anyone else i know. and really….. here is more ignorance.

        “Maybe children would not be “intimidated and bullied” by the presence of the police if parents didn’t turn the police into the enemy.”

        maybe if they didnt turn themselves into the enemy we wouldnt tell our kids to stay away from them. maybe if cops didnt rape people we would feel safer with them. but no, they murder people. im not saying all cops are bad. but when your standing over a child, putting him in handcuffs because everyone thinks you have something you dont, and then get told “if you make any sudden movements im gonna plant your face in the ground”, tell me i shouldnt tell my children to think of them as the enemy. who do you think you are anyway? God. just because you say something it should go? no your wrong. and God will judge you all, with REAL justice. remember, the Nazis SS and Italian Gestapo werent armed soldiers. they were police. and they are the biggest terrorists out there

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        • You’re comparing police officers to Nazis and Gestapos? Talk about huge disrespect and complete lack of knowledge or regard for what the job of a police officer actually entails. Do yourself and everyone else a favor and educate yourself before you start spouting more garbage, you’re making yourself look bad. And do myself and everyone else involved in law enforcement a favor, don’t call 911 next time you need help. See how well that works out for you.

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        • As far as I’m concerned, police officers might as well be nazis. They are the scum of America (the only bigger scum are politicians). I wouldn’t ever think of calling 911 if I needed help to begin with anyways. Also as far as I’m concerned, most police officers have the IQ of a rock. They push innocent people around like it’s ok just because they have a badge and a gun. I honestly cannot think of a time in my entire life where a police officer has actually helped me, and I doubt I will ever see it happen in the rest of the years I have left on this planet.

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      • @ Annie L
        And what makes it okay for a police officer to give any kind of medical advise on the interaction between a drink he doesn’t understand with any medications the child may or may not be taking. That Annie L is asinine. When taking any antibiotics it is wise to eat/drink probiotics to replace the good flora the medication is destroying, which Kombucha is a good source of. And place explain how interrogating a child for 6 hours without his parents present or notified under the clause of “investigatory process” is keeping him safe?? smells like BS to me.

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      • No, the issue is that the PARENT should have been present before the child was interrogated by any school official if they suspected it was Such a heinous offense.

        This child should Not have been Suspended before a conference with the Parents, and an opportunity to clarify the whole situation. I understand the concept of ‘in loco parentis’, but the schools are so enslaved by “regulation” that the interests of children’s well-being has long ago become secondary.

        A case of much ado about nothing, and the school administrators need to “chill” a little bit, before blowing things out of proportion, which, in their overzealous, political-correctness, “zero-tolerance” policies.

        The schools have themselves become bullies.

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      • Disgusting!! The days of Officer Al, the kiddies pal are now gone. I tell my kids that if they need help, find a 7-11 clerk or a fireman. Too many cops hurt people too many times for no reason. The cops refer to us as “turds” or “civilians” for a reason. They can justify abusing the public when they have a “us-them” mentality and lingo. As far as a copper giving nutritional advice? I think the 7-11 clerk would also be a better source!!

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      • Anne, police are bad people. You are a bad person for being one. Police ALWAYS intimidate others. They routinely break the laws they are charged with enforcing, although nearly NEVER prosecute a fellow badged goon. By your own admission this officer was up to no good in that office. Your words “the officer warned the child about the dangers of the drink”. Now, since that drink carries ZERO danger, the officer was either highly ignorant (likely, considering they are ignorant of the laws that they are supposed to enforce, much less matters of health) or he was telling a malicious lie (also likely considering police routinely lie as a daily occurrence).

        We get that you are a member of the police cabal, and will always stand up for a fellow badged goon, but you need to recognize that everyone else realizes you and your buddies for the monsters that you are.

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        • Saying someone is a bad person for being a police officer is rather ignorant. That’s the same as saying all teachers and priests are pedophiles or that all vegans are stuck up nut cases; or all men are wife beaters and all women are unfaithful. Two of my friends are police officers, and they are two of the most fair, gentle, and trustworthy people I’ve ever known. Yes, that particular officer was ignorant and did not follow the guidelines, but one officer (or even several or a lot) do not define ALL officers. If you think someone who genuinely upholds the law is automatically evil, then I would question in which illegal activities you’re involved.

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      • maybe if police didnt taser people having a seizure or pregnant women or handcuffed suspects or shoot people in the back 47 times , we wouldnt be afraid. also when is a peace officer a medical professional or a dietician . stepped over the line , like the police almost always do.

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      • Nobody has to threaten their kids with police. You guys do it perfectly fine. While in High School, we were searched, stopped and asked questions every single day – while living in a predominantly white, suburban neighborhood where crime rates were lower than the standard conduct of its police officers. Up until I finally left the states, because I don’t want to raise my kids in a state of constant fear, each time I would get behind the wheel of my car I’d get paranoid and freaked out whenever a police car would enter the field of my vision. I lived in the suburbs and in NYC and had never had a positive experience with the police, EVER. You bully kids in school and in the streets, treating them like enemies, like the bad guys, what sort of mentality do you think these young people are going to develop once they enter adulthood? Each day you feed them fear and hate, and it is much worse in the inner city areas. The presence of a police officer in a principals office, which I had also been subjected to, is absolutely terrifying to a minor. Abuse on the part of the police in the states is uncanny, only in a dictatorship or under a communist regime have I ever witnessed such blatant disregard for human rights as I saw in the states.

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        • While your experience, if its not being overly dramatized, is terrible that doesn’t make every single police officer a bad person. If you think officers abusing their power only happens in the states, you couldn’t be more wrong. That whole statement is rather ignorant of you.

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          • Wrong. In my opinion one person speaks multitudes for the whole group. Once again I’ve never come across a friendly police officer either. You’re all gestapo-esque assholes in my opinion until one of you proves me wrong (which will never happen).

      • The issue wasn’t having a police officer there. Nor was the issue what the police officer asked.
        The issue is a) they did not wait for a parent before questioning the boy…from my understanding a child has to be 18 or emancipated before he can be questioned with out a parent/guardian unless the parent permits it.
        b) the officer did miniscule if any research on kombucha, which is foolish at best. Accusing someone of something when they don’t understand the components involved in the situation is also foolish.

        I don’t have a problem with police officers in general…though I do have problems with some police officers in specific…and they do cast a bad light on the whole…this officer didn’t handle the situation in the best way. Neither did the school.

        Our schools need to stop handing out judgements and punishments before fully investigating the situation and all its components.

        As for this lunch police crap, they need to keep out of it unless they see a kids eating only 2 candy bars and a pack of nutter butters for lunch. Or only 3 lettuce leaves. other then that it isn’t their business.

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      • “The Police Officer told the boy that the kombucha was illegal and very dangerous if he takes any medications — antibiotics or anything. Then, the officer asked the boy point blank if he takes any medicines.”

        The police officer was not quietly standing by while the school administration conducted their investigation. If this quote is true, then s/he was violating the law him/herself by practicing medicine without a license! Not to mention violating the kid’s medical privacy. And a cop should know better about interrogating a minor with no guardian present.

        s/ 2 cops in the family, so I know how they are SUPPOSED to behave — save your righteous indignation for someone who is buying it!

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      • Police should have refused to enter this outrage. The police should not have talked with the child without a parent present. Police that take part in B.S. like this ARE bullies and its high time you POlice realize it for yourselves and that many many people are starting to understand this.

        Was there an injury? No. Was property abused or destroyed (other than the student’s property)? No. Was there a threat of harm? No. Was there bullying and intimidation by the authorities in collusion (police, school)? Yes. Facilitated by police. And now, these bizarre actions are justified by blogger-comment police. ENOUGH.

        If police are so un-busy that they have time for calls like this, then there are clearly way too many of them.

        In addition, in all this mess, why didn’t someone just call the parent and ask what the drink was? Why are police and schools acting like they are the parents?

        I can’t believe anyone would send their child to these child prisons they call schools.

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    • This is very disturbing. That poor child was simply having lunch, and was essentially arrested! I seriously hope there are repercussions for all these people so they are made aware.

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    • In California, the kombucha I purchase is classified as a beer and cannot be sold to those under 21, because of its alcohol content. Some kombucha vendors, to avoid this law, water down the product.

      Schools should not be expected to do alcohol tests on beverages; it makes sense to ban all alcoholic beverages, including kombucha. If parents want, they can serve kombucha to their kids at at home, just as they can serve wine or beer.

      This whole fake uproar is about demonizing public schools. Did you see the 15 yr old who just invented a 5 second, 3 cent test for cancer in the news? He was inspired by his public high school science class.

      I love Kombucha, but schools have the duty to ban alcoholic beverages. I make my own also.

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