Paula and I Celebrate That We're Half Done!
It’s hump day! We are halfway done!
Are any of you still detoxing or have those symptoms gone away and you are now feeling terrific?
Any cravings or hunger?
Be sure to clue us all in via the comments section ….
Paula: Crashed on my couch last night at 7:30 pm and slept clean through until 6 am. I usually sleep pretty well but it has been most improved and more restful since starting this fast. Digestion is usually good with gas and bloating typically minimal or after foods that are rarely eaten but it is non existent on this fast. No headaches, blemishes or constipation thus far. ’Im feeling good and energy still higher than usual. That’s actually kind of scary if you know me.
I am still thinking the increased carbohydrates have something to do with this and will continue to experiment after the fast. Like I said I am a numbers girl. The first 4 days of the fast my calories have ranged from 2183-2663 and I am down 2 lbs although it could be from the heat yesterday and slightly reduced consumption.
Consumed 13 cups and weighed in at 116.6.
Richard: Played soccer really hard all afternoon. Had plenty of energy and the full speed running wasn’t a problem.
My joints and muscles feel fantastic. Drank about 5 cups again for the day in addition to 2 cups herbal tea and homemade kombucha. Sleeping great and everything is normal. I haven’t had any detox symptoms at all other than a bit of weakness/shakiness and some mild congestion the first couple of days.
Sarah: Felt terrific all day long. Didn’t nap and wasn’t hungry except for when I grilled up some grassfed burgers for the kids. The meat juice in the pan looked so tempting. I almost poured it straight into my mouth!
Had a small hive about the size of a dime appear just to the left of my left eye yesterday. No other hives appeared and it went away after a few hours. Strange. I haven’t had hives in decades. Perhaps more detoxing?
Forgot to mention that I sunned my belly again yesterday for about 20 minutes. I swear this helps keep my tummy flat. Have been doing this for years although the data is still very preliminary about the internal benefits to the body of direct sun.
I drank a full gallon of raw milk today as I really seemed to need it. Am trying to finish drinking earlier at night as having to get up to go to the bathroom at night from all the liquids is a bit annoying.
Weighed in again and am holding steady at 123. Woo-hoo! I think I’m going to make it!
Got a wonderful email from Vernon Hershberger giving a quick update on his hearing from March 2, 2012. He said he felt strengthened knowing some of us were fasting for him. He said the judge’s heart softened and he chose not to revoke his bail! He also allowed his son to videotape the proceedings after 30 minutes of insisting to the judge that this was his Constitutional right. He stays a free man able to live at home with his beautiful family – at least for now! Score one for Real Food Rights!
Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
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I can’t believe we’re more than half way done! I feel great. My skin continues to look better and better. I’m still suffering from mild constipation and mild congestion, but I’m not too worried. I think my hair might be “shedding” less, too! I’m up by 0.2 lbs, but I don’t mind gaining a little weight. I should try to continue to increase my milk consumption, too, to help with the constipation. My energy is good and I find my attitude is great! Keep at it, everyone! We can do this!
unrelated.. but i was in another argument last night with a mid-50′s male taking about 15 pills every day.. I tried to explain the dangers of each pill which led to him pull the “people are living longer than ever.. People died in their 50′s a century ago”, card.. I went in to my little speech but realized I’ve been stumpped here before.. I know as a country we live nowhere the longest and are nowhere near the happiest but I’m not sure where we stood 100 years ago as far as life expectancy and what would be a good way through this.. My gut tells me that taking 15 pills each and every day and being married to 3 scheduled doctor visits per month cant be normal but I do get stumpped here.. So, anybody.. What do we say to this argument..
Stumpped 20 somethings,
-Jason and Lisa-
Hi Jason and Lisa,
My dad, who is 76, tries to pull that card with me as well. Thanks to the V.A. Hospital he is on about 6 different meds, his immune system is poor–he catches everything, he cannot stay awake in the afternoons not to mention all the side effects from the meds that he experiences. He just got over a bout with hives due to the antibiotics they had him on! But I believe that one of the reasons we are living longer is due to the improvement in sanitary conditions. And what about their quality of life? My mother, who is 73, takes much better care of herself, is at ideal weight and still works a full time job!
thanks terrie and sarah..great points..
-jason and lisa-
I believe that the supposed increase in life span is due to the fact that infant mortality has decreased. When gov. does their figuring, it includes death of children, since we don’t have as many children dieing under the age of 5, that increases the over all life span of the total population. My husband tries to pull the same trick on me.
The people who were dying young were in the overcrowded, filthy cities where decent food was hard to find fresh from the farm. People living out on the farms lived long and well. The people who are living long now are those born pre WWII. Those born after are getting sick/dying much earlier. How may older parents are burying their children in their 40′s and 50′s these days? A LOT
Sarah, TheHealthyHomeEconomist\’s last post: The Milk Cure 2012 (Day 5)
Just had a high school friend die last week (just turned 50). His parents probably never thought they would outlive their child. Very sad.
Sarah, TheHealthyHomeEconomist\’s last post: The Milk Cure 2012 (Day 5)
actually, i read once that i was part of the first generation in history that was expected NOT to out live their parents..
-jason and lisa-
I would say the reason that the pre WWII folks are living longer is because, even if they ended their life with junk food, they began it most likely on raw milk, good quality meats, and lots of fresh air and “drity” veggies from unpolluted fields (giving them a wonderfully, nourishing start). This diet changes dramatically for their children. Dr. price says it take one generation either to or from a healthy diet to make a difference.
As an anthro major, many anthropologists believe that the human body has always had the ability to live “near” 100. Like Sarah says below, high mortality rate at birth, most likely due to poor sanitation, skewed statistics. Other factors such as infectious disease and the inability to fight it off, poor living conditions that include poor sources of food contribute to early death. The point is that the human body, and specifically homo sapien though probably not as far back as homo habilis (though some don’t consider this human), has never “worn out” endig in death in the ages of 40′s to 50′s and even 70′s. If given proper nutrition, living conditions and reduction of being eaten by a predatory animal, the human body has the ability to last quite long. I would cite my source with the anthropologists that support this line of thinking, but we lost our home due to the bad economy and most of my books are packed in storage.
Jason and Lisa, both my great grandfather and my grandfather, lived to be 102. Both great grandmother and grandmother lived to be 96. I think most of the statistics to cause the difference in life expectancy between then and now was due to infant mortality and less sanitary living conditions. However being too clean is also a problem. A little dirt and germs is good for the immune system.
Both my parents are still alive at 87 but are not as healthy as their parents were at the same age. I am 62 and not as healthy as my parents were at my age despite my best efforts in following a healthy diet. Some things seem to be out of our control and I hope things will turn around with the new food movements.
My Icelandic grandmother lived to 102 and her father 100. She outlived 2 of her children by many, many years. My maternal grandfather died of a heart attack at 70. My mother is 85, looks 75 but has physical issues my grandmother/her mother never had even though my grandmother abused alcohol and anti-depressants for many years. My mother abused sugar most of her life, she says she is off it now.
My fathers side of the family is a different matter all together, his father died when I was only 2 and his brother fairly young also, both from heart attacks. My father died of a heart attack 4 years ago at 85.
I am 60 and feel pretty good except for joint stiffness. I don’t plan on taking any medications if at all possible. My mother takes only 2 as she has a serious case of fibromyalgia.
My daughter is only 28, is very over weight and eats very poorly, lots of processed ‘food’, lots of junk. I shudder to think what she will feed my grandchildren, if she has any.
actually.. cant believe i have never thought of this before.. my great grandmother lived to 99 and all of her 11 children are still alive today and in their upper 70′s with pretty healthy spirits and lifestyles.. they all worked the farm earlier in life and branched out in their 20′s.. not one of them struggles with weight or any real health problems and my great grandmothers “carefree” spirit was passed to each of her children.. i really cannot believe i have never thought of that..
-jason and lisa-
Greetings fellow fasters! I actually started yesterday because I did a spiritual fast last Friday, which is no food or drink for 24 hours, so thought I’d better wait a couple of days. I was so excited to start this fast as it made so much sense to me! I have done a juice fast for about 3 days–by day 3 craved protein BAD. I have done the Lemonade Master Cleanse 3 different times and, again, by day 3 crave protein really bad. I read the book, The Untold Story of Milk, by Dr. Ron Schmid, ND a few years ago and it really resonated with me because I used to LOVE the milk I would drink while visiting my uncle’s farm when I was little. Many of my friends, as you might imagine, think I am nuts–mostly those that are vegan or vegetarians. SO–I created a blogspot so they could follow my daily experiences. If you’d like to check it out it’s http://www.wisdomofyourbody.blogspot.com.
Thank you Sara (and Paula) for this wonderful blog. I have been following you for about two months now and I really appreciate all the honest information you post. I gave the homemade formula recipe to many women who have recently adopted an infant or had a child that wouldn’t nurse (that’s a whole other saga–I’m sure).
Sarah, thank you so much for the update on Von Hershberger. I have been looking on the internet trying to find updates but had not found any for his portion of it. I saw something about there not being any oath on record for the judge, but that was it. Just another question for folks on the fast. How do you feel about Traditional Medicine’s Smooth Move Laxative herbal tea for those who might squeamish about enemas? I almost expecting to find that there is something in there that shouldn’t be! In about a year when I have weaned my baby I will be trying the milk fast. I waited 8 years for her. I am in no hurry to wean her (she is only 6 months right now).
oops, it is Vernon Hershberger. Maybe that is the reason I was having trouble locating much information! Grrrr….pay attention.
Nurse away!!! I nursed by youngest until she self weaned at 3 1/2. Nursing ROCKS! Go as long as you can and cherish every minute.
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@ Sarah: Instead of searching the internet for information, you can sign up for the RSS feed or the email notifications (daily) from http://www.thebovine.com or http://www.thecompletepatient.com
Both have been following the proceedings.
Loving reading all your comments !
Day 5 was good for me. I continue to lose weight, which is good, and my energy is increasing. I have lost 3.8 pounds. I am going to try drinking some lemon juice for the queasiness I frequently get after drinking the milk on an empty stomach. I am trying to post more detailed accounts of my day-to-day milk fasting experience on my blog but will comment here when I have time.
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Day 6 here for me. Feeling great and sleeping much better than normal. I feel like I have tons of energy and have been taking the dog for a walk the last two days while the weather is nicer. For the record, I am overweight and gained the majority of my weight after my hysterectomy in 2010 then foot surgery three months after. Ever since those surgeries my legs get achy and tired if I walk too long. However, these past two days walking at a good pace, I’ve gone over a mile and up our steep hill to the house without getting winded. That is NOT normal for me. Last night, my husband didn’t wear his jacket to bible study and decided to jog back to our house. I was cold and started to jog with him. Once again, I didn’t get winded. This is something I don’t understand? Why would this change something so drastically? I’m still overweight and out of shape but I feel so much better. Is that it? If this is how it’s going to be, I don’t know if I will stop the milk cure in 10 days. I may go longer.
Oh, I’m down another pound, to a number I haven’t seen in a long time.
Blessings
This is interesting to me because I am having the same experience! I am on day 8 and have lost 6 pounds but still have many pounds to lose. But I discovered yesterday that I can run quite a long time without getting winded! Love it! I plan to go running again tonight.
I’m glad I’m not alone in this. I thought I was imagining it.
After reading your posts, I have decided to do a milk fast. Can I still drink my whole raw Kefir or should I give that up during the fast?
Whole raw kefir is fine on The Milk Cure. Just no sweeteners or fruit added to it.
Sarah, TheHealthyHomeEconomist\’s last post: The Milk Cure 2012 (Day 5)
My Day 3 – Have had full energy every day so far, drinking a cup of milk on the hour. Went to Crossfit on Day 2, and did not even have to add any extra calories than my half gallon per day. So Day 3 I believe I went a cup or two under the 2 quarts. I do want to lose a few pounds. My Day 3 also included a detox bath with a mixture of sea salts, epsom salts, and baking soda. I haven’t indulged in a bath in years. Tucked myself into bed for awhile afterward, taking advantage of a quiet day with all souls missing but myself. Also made a scrumptious chicken dinner for the family. I was afraid I would accidentally eat something! I made a batch of microwave yogurt yesterday that should be ready for today, and ordered some kefir grains as well.
I too was unable to start on schedule, but will be starting soon. Was finishing up a Master Cleanse fast. I think that the elimination portion of this diet might be as or even more important than the fast itself. Financially it is difficult to spend the money necesary to do this fast on just lil ol me, but I will trust that my “Provider” will do just that and am looking forward to starting.
Miss Sarah, did you recieve my request for a advertizing package for Canine Carriages?
Hi Bob, no I didn’t receive anything about this. Sorry, I get so many emails everyday sometimes things slip through. Can you please resend? Would love to check out what you have to offer and see if something might work out for mutual benefit.
Sarah, TheHealthyHomeEconomist\’s last post: The Milk Cure 2012 (Day 5)
Wendy, just the idea of chasing milk with lemon juice makes me feel queasy! Tried putting both in tea at a restaurant once since they both arrived with the hot water. Instant curdle! But maybe you know something I don’t!
My update- Girl Scout cookies arrived in the mail yesterday! Talk about temptation! My friend promises me if I eat real food long enough they will lose their appeal. Hard to believe but that would be a good thing. Hunger pains about 9pm weren’t squelched by more milk so I gave in and had an avocado. Figured it was still better than a box of cookies! Back on the wagon today!
Your friend is right about GS cookies (and Pepperidge Farms, et al) losing their appeal. Many years ago a friend gave me Thin Mint Cookies for my early winter birthday that she had frozen in March for me…she knew the way to my heart at the time! It’s something you hear people say, but experiencing it is nothing short of a rather miraculous feeling for those of us who have “walked away.”
I think an avocado was a great choice! Maybe it was extra fat you needed?
I’ve noticed, too, over the years many junk foods have lost their appeal. Sometimes, I still get tempted but the way I feel after eating them (physically, not just mental guilt) is enough to get me to not do it again. Maybe it is just being pregnant, but it seems when I walk through grocery stores and see that aisles and aisles of garbage foods, I literally feel sick to my stomach.
I can taste MSG, artificial sweeteners and canola oil a mile away. It is getting hard to eat out and eat at other people’s houses. I hate to be rude and turn down their food or their invitations, but all the fake foods out there are gag inducing.
I so agree with you on this . Watching people in restaurants is really getting sickening. And also the food in stores . It does make me want to gag also . I know exactly how you feel. And i have no idea how to deal with friends and family .
Day 5 woke up feeling o.k. Had the kids make their own breakfast and was out the door for a little “field trip” I did forget my milk, but drank water instead. When I finally got home I guzzled down a glass right away! It was still cold, yummy going down! Later I still had good energy and was fixing dinner and trying to finish up the apple sauce I was making for the kids and started not feeling so hot.
Took it easy the rest of the night, husband and children were a little worried. No ER visit though and I went to bed with some water at the night stand. Slept pretty good, not like the other nights. But, my skin is looking GREAT!! I may look like a teenager by the time I am done here! LOL
I had to use my machine and my inhaler a few times.
I know Day 6 will be BETTER then Day 5
Thank you for my hug Sarah!! I needed that. You are hoot!! I can picture you looking around to see if anyone is looking and sneak a sip of those juices from the burgers..hee hee.
You are looking GREAT as well!!
Mary Kate, I’ve never seen your eyes looking as clear and bright as they did this morning. There is clearly less of a physical burden on you and it shows!
Sarah, TheHealthyHomeEconomist\’s last post: The Milk Cure 2012 (Day 5)
Mary Kate- just wondering if you have cf? I have seen your comments and there are some buzzwords that stood out… If so I would love to hear more about your management of it and how the milk fast worked for you.
Hello Sarah!
I cannot thank you enough for recommending this fast. I couldn’t wait to start so I began last Tuesday. That morning I woke up with itchy eyes, itchy throat and a stuffy nose, as usual, because I have always struggled with seasonal allergies. Although, I will say my allergies did subside almost completely after starting the WAPF principles in my diet four years ago. But, for some reason this year they had returned full force. So, when I started reading about this raw milk fast and how it can help all sorts of ailments, I couldn’t wait to see if it would help my allergies. It has been eight days and they have only flared up two times since going on the fast. Both times they were only for a short period of time. The first time was on the third day because I had eaten a couple bites of soup and the second was when I broke the fast by eating a small salad. I can only assume I am like a baby again and all I can handle in my gut is RAW MILK! All that being said, I am so happy to report that if I stick to the good stuff (raw milk) my allergies completely disappear!!! I am feeling great with energy levels continuing to amaze me and I am dropping weight of about 1lb per day on 3quarts a day. My goal is to lose 15lbs. I am getting there quicker than I expected. The first two days I did have some digestion issues with loose stools, slight headaches and fatigue. After the first two days, all I continue to have is the slight headaches and that is when I know my blood sugar is down. I pour myself another cup of milk and it quickly goes away. My husband’s goal is to lose 15-20 lbs and he has lost 6-8 lbs in seven days on the fast. He also broke his addiction to caffeine and sugar! The first four days he had a severe headache and had to take ibuprofen for the first two days. Now, he feels great and does not need the caffeine in the morning because he is full of energy. His job is very strenuous at times (garage door repair) but he has been able to complete his work as long as he drinks plenty of water and a glass of milk an hour. We are both doing incredibly well and plan to stay on the fast until we reach our weight loss goals. I plan to stay on the fast until I can introduce foods without any type of seasonal allergies returning.
Thanks again for spurring us on to do this,
Rachel and Jason G.
Rachel, I am very surprised by what you are experiencing. Never did I think The Milk Cure would stop seasonal allergies in their tracks. This fast has turned out so far beyond what I expected! So glad you joined in!
Sarah, TheHealthyHomeEconomist\’s last post: The Milk Cure 2012 (Day 5)
When I started the milk cure, I went off the allergy pill I was taking. It was a big thing for me because pollen counts in the NE and my normal triggers are active right now. I’m also happy to report that after being stuffy for a few days, my sinuses are great. I’ll say it again, I’m not sure I want to go off this milk cure on the 10th.
Rachel that’s great!! I am going to forward your reply to my workout buddy Steph who was just again today complaining about her allergies while we were working out outside. She needs to try this.
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Rachel and Paula – I am very inspired by this as I am suffering terribly with allergies right now. My question is, What happens with the milk fast is over? I can’t live on the milk alone forever…….. Please advise.
Sarah, I was wondering can you buy raw milk at the store or do you get it from a farmer? I’m curious how many gallons of milk you get each week, especially for this raw milk fast. Also, if sunning your belly really makes it flat, I have to start doing that. Nothing else is working!
I get it from a farm.
Sarah, TheHealthyHomeEconomist\’s last post: The Milk Cure 2012 (Day 5)
Day 6 of the cleanse for me- It has been nearly entirely raw milk, milk thistle tea and kombucha. Saturday night is my partner’s and mine only night out in months, so we went out to dinner. I only had raw food though and a small helping at that. Couldn’t say no to our only night out!
I haven’t had any real cravings and definitely feel my blood sugar has normalized for the first time in about 20 years. It used to be when I got hungry, I would be famished and my brain would go numb. I’ve tried following the “Diet Cure” by Julia Ross and supplementing with amino acids but it has never reached the level of equilibrium it has with drinking raw milk.
I also have a slight yellowing around the inner canthus of my eyes which is a sign of some liver damage. Once I noticed that this too was also clearing up I started focusing on my liver and drinking milk thistle tea along with the raw milk. It’s a nice supplement because it’s warm and all the cold milk is a bit rough on my stomach. It’s not all that warm in Northern CA yet.
As far as the condition of my tongue is concerned; it’s hanging in there. The color has come back a bit more and the coating has evened out so it looks like my digestions doing well! Bowels are regular and urine is regular (lt yellow and not cloudy). I think the warm liquids and allowing the milk to get to room temperature has helped a lot. Skin is also improving, sun freckles are even fading.
Have begun exercising and energy has been good, as well as hydration which was a great surprise!
In an attempt to increase the regenerative effects of the cleanse I’m also taking astaxanthin and fermented cod liver/butter supplements. This has turned from a cautious experiment into an exciting experience for me- thanks again for the inspiration and a new way to cleanse!
Yesterday was the first day that I had congestion and I still have some this morning. Am still drinking about a gallon each day. I stop drinking by 6:30 pm so as not to wake to potty at night. Weight remaining the same, I would like to loose some. Joints still feel good no pain or stiffness.
Day 6 and feeling energetic and relaxed. Was somewhat irritable yesterday from a heavy schedule and lack of sleep, but slept well. I have to be more regular with timing to be sure I drink the milk consistany throughout the day. Forgot to drink for hours yesterday and that may have added to irratabity. I only ended up drinking one quart. I do feel lighter though am not weighing cause don’t want to focus on weight loss and get discouraged. This fast is not about weight loss for me
. I’ll be happy to lose a few though and ok if I don’t.
Thanks Sarah and Paula. This fast is an excellent experience to do together for many reasons as we all know.
Day 5 – March 5
Today is my first day back into the “real world” (outside of all-day classes for the past two days) of food and family, etc. I’ve had 2 cups of milk (probably more than 8 oz each) and it’s 1pm. Not very hungry, no cravings, feel fine. I feel calm and centered.
I spent several hours with three children, ages six and under. We spent a few hours out in the warm sun, playing at the park. My energy, digestion, mood, everything has been great all day.
I am so happy I made it through Day 5! This is the first time I’ve ever done a fast. It really didn’t even feel like a fast because I was never hungry. I felt nourished and fed the entire time.
I am going to complete my fast today. I feel satisfied with what I did and I am looking forward to eating, for the sheer pleasure of it. I learned a lot about myself: that I usually overeat and that I don’t need to eat very much when I am truly nourished, and that I’m usually eating from a sensual desire, not out of hunger. I really enjoyed the SIMPLICITY of the fast. It freed up a lot of brain power and physical time for me, as I did not have to think about what to buy, make, eat. I really enjoyed it. I will be drinking a lot more raw milk from here on out. Usually I stock it for my son, but I will always have it on hand for myself now. I am thinking of using raw milk as a meal, once or even twice a day now. It’s so easily digestible, gives my body a rest, and is simple. It’s completely satisfying to me. It helped me greatly with cravings for sweets.
Thank You for this website and for all the work you do, Sarah! I tell a lot of people about this website because it has helped me so much, and has really inspired me on my journey of true health. Continued success!
I sure wish I was doing this with you all! I have does due to freshen any day now so maybe I’ll do it on my own in a few weeks. Maybe next year you could consider starting a little later in the spring, when there will be more milk flowing! I started the Milk Cure about a year & a half ago but only stayed with it about 3 days. I loved that I was not hungry at all & I had plenty of energy. Unfortunately I started having some allergy issued, which really surprised me so I thought it was wise to stop. I am temped to try it again, though. Eager too!
Eli,
This is just my opinion but even with allergic reactions I would suggest to keep going once you start. I have all kinds of allergies so for me this time of year is one of the worst. Every tree that I know I’m allergic to are all shoving out pollen right now and other than a slight sinus headache most days I have been feeling wonderful. No runny nose or cough! Your reaction last time may have been as much detox symptoms as anything. As you already know goat’s milk is the best so I would start this asap and see how long you can stick with it. Like several others have commented I am seriously thinking of continuing drinking raw milk as the majority of my food intake even after this fast is over.
Baby goats – awww!
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wondering if the problems with digestion will eventually go away on it’s own? I drank mostly warm kefir, some cold milk and kombucha yesterday and still having trouble. I’m going to try sipping milk instead of gulping today and hope that helps. I started on wednesday but ate on saturday so I’m kind of only on day 3. Also wondering how often you can use an enema before it causes harm and is a salt water flush a healthy thing to do?
Enemas are NOT salt water. It is just plain filtered water warmed on the stove to just above body temperature. Use 1 quart. You can use several a day safely if need be.
Sarah, TheHealthyHomeEconomist\’s last post: The Milk Cure 2012 (Day 5)
I actually meant drinking salt water like they do in the master cleanse. thank-you!
Day 7: Slight constipation today, better then the last two days. Seems the herbal ginger tea has helped. Do you think the constipation is a symptom of the detox or something else?
I just notices how good my joints have felt. I’ve been feeling really good. I’ve had two injured achilles that would just not get better and they seem to be feeling better each day. Maybe a coincidence??? Mind clarity has been obvious.
I am on day 6. The first couple of days I felt weak and shaky at times but now I feel fine. I don’t weigh myself but I just feel lighter. It is also nice to never have that “I ate too much!” feeling. I also had a slight headache off and on the first few days. I normally drink one cup of tea or coffee a day and love sweets so I think I suffered some withdrawal. The only real issue for me has been pain in my legs. This was bad enough that I had to take aspirin 2 nights in order to get to sleep-pretty discouraging since I haven’t taken a pain killer in years. I read the posts that suggested a lack of magnesium. I took a bath with epsom salt but can’t say that helped. So now I have added oat straw infusion – one quart each day and that seems to alleviate it some. If it wasn’t for this pain I could say I am feeling great!
has anybody been taking their body temp. in the morning when rising? i m interested to know if anyone’s body temp is going up during this fast. keep up the great work y’all! i will be doing this in late april when we get our creamy spring milk here in NY.
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mine temperture is rising! Right now it’s above normal. But this morning it was at 98.3 high for me!
I’m sure everyone has seen the recent headline: New Harvard study links industrial dairy to increased cancer rates.
“Dr. Ganmaa Davaasambuu, Ph.D., and her colleagues specifically identified “milk from modern dairy farms” as the culprit, referring to large-scale confinement operations where cows are milked 300 days of the year, including while they are pregnant. Compared to raw milk from her native Mongolia, which is extracted only during the first six months after cows have already given birth, pasteurized factory milk was found to contain up to 33 times more estrone sulfate.”
How often are raw milk dairy cows milked? Is there a need to be concerned about the
estrone sulfate in raw dairy?
So much depends on the practices of each individual dairy! The dairy I get my raw milk from is not certified organic but they are grass fed and she uses as little chemical/medical intervention as possible so for me the hormone issue is not a problem. Talk to your dairy men & women. If they don’t answer questions about their cows, their milk and/or their operations I would look for another supplier/dairy.
Generally cows are milked twice a day no matter the kind of dairy. Good dairy practices would dictate that the cow is allowed to nurse her calf for a few weeks before giving milk for human consumption. Again that is different from dairy to dairy.
Jeanette\’s last post: Raw Milk Journey Day 5
How often and how long cows/goats are milked is up to the individual farmer. I have 2 milking does and only breed them every other year (well into year 2 and the does give me a combined amount of 1 gallon a day – WOW). We milk them 2 times a day to keep up their supply. Many farmers breed every year and stop milking for the last 2 months of pregnancy (I have no need for extra kids, baby goats, every year). So I guess there could be increased estrogen in the first 3 months of being the doe being pregnant and being milked. If you are concerned about estrogen, maybe just buy raw milk during the months between kidding and breeding season ( approx. march – september).
I’m a couple days behind due to my schedule, but much energy level is much improved today. I’ve never done a fast before, so I was unsure what to expect…I do crave food when I cook something for my husband, but other than that, I have no cravings. I feel completely “normal” – for me that is.
Headaches are gone and my energy is up!
Oh I can’t WAIT to get my heifer bred this month!!!!
Day 6 for me. How exciting. Had a good nights sleep. Woke up refreshed and clear-headed and it is actually SUNNY here!!! but, cold with snow on the ground.
It has been a good experience and a good test of my will power. I considered quitting for a fleeting few minutes Day 4 in the afternoon due to unrelenting hunger pangs but I really want to see it through.
Yesterday felt fairly normal except bowel issues (lack thereof) yesterday and the day before. And not so great today. Wonder what I should do about that??? A quick enema really did nothing, but I don’t have any real side effects from not going that I can tell. Should I be trying to drink more milk?
I have lost 5 pounds in 5 days with no drop this morning.
Unlike most of you I have been very HUNGRY. No cravings just have hunger pangs a lot throughout afternoon and evenings, even if I have recently had a glass. Keeping it to a half gallon a day or less so maybe it just isn’t enough. I am drinking more water than normal, too.
I haven’t had a lot more energy or brain clarity than normal, but I do have quite a bit of energy as a general rule. Again, could be the weather, at least the energy part.
There may be a very slight improvement in the inflammation in my fingers and hand, better in the morning, worse as the day goes on.
Broken veins in my cheeks appear lighter yet again today.
Went for Epsom salts, the smells were wonderful coming from the deli, but I wasn’t tempted. I did have a hard time articulating a couple of times with sales personnel, seemed worse than normal.
I too, think I could easily have a glass of milk as a meal replacement once I get back to a normal eating schedule. It’s nice not having to think about what to cook, cleaning up, dishes, etc.
Oh, my body temperature was up yesterday, still low but up none the less and this is unusual for me.
Day 8 for me and feeling fine!
People here in Ky think I’ve lost my mind…but I feel incredible. I’d only planned for five days so I had a bite to eat last night, but I didn’t feel any fuller or more satisfied and I am fasting again. what I can say, is I have lost a couple inches on my waistline ( I dot weigh myself so no idea in poundage ) and I had no symptoms of pmdd this month. That surprised the hell out of me. I had a friend in CA message me and ask for details of the fast. So at least I have supporters somewhere…
Can anyone tell me if vat pasteurizing is ok? Is it best to stop drinking milk unless it is raw?
Tracey:
I believe Sarah said in an earlier post on one of the other days, to use only RAW milk for this fast.
Day 6, no more headaches, joints are great and like many of the rest of you I get hungry when I fix food for others. I go out of my way to make sure it is extra good and pretty because I think it is important to not throw any old thin at my husband because I am on a fast! I must say I am looking forward to each day and the changes it brings.
Yesterday, my fifth day, was great! I was really worried about my energy levels, since I am a teacher and need a lot of energy. But it was fine! My energy is very even. I was still a little tired in the morning because I didn’t have my tea. I really had no cravings and absolutely no hunger pains yesterday. Food still smells really good, but I am feeling so good that I don’t care. My skin is clearing up, and my bowel movements are fine. I haven’t had any signs of detox. I guess that’s good? Anyway, I feel wonderful! I don’t want to stop, lol!
Also, does anyone else have a white tongue from the milk? I mean my tongue is pink but the taste buds are white. Is that bad or is it just the milk? I scrubbed with my toothbrush and they were still white-ish.
Yes, mine is the same.
Oh good! Thanks!
OK! Sorry to jump off the awesome fast! But I need to get instant info on the GAPS diet! My husband has recently been diagnosed with Myelodysplastic Syndrome (say that baby 5 times!) This is where the bone marrow is making abnormal cells? He has had 7 unit of blood!! He has been recommended to get on the GAPS diet! So I am scrapping. I thought that someone mentioned an interview with a Russian gal (author of book?) Any info let me know! I start my fast tomorrow!! Yeehaa! Thanks a ton!
Cari
Cari\’s last post: The Milk Cure 2012 (Day 5)
I believe you’re talking about Dr. Natasha Campbell-McBride, author of “Gut and Psychology Syndrome” (GAPS). There are several websites, including a Yahoo group. Just goggle “GAPS”. Also, she has been a speaker at Weston A Price for several years, so you should check out their site to at http://www.westonaprice.org. Read the book thoroughly and understand why you’re doing this…the diet takes strict adherence for quite some time for healing.
Hi
http://gapsdiet.com/
GAPS – gut and Psychology Syndrome Diet
Dr natasha Campbell-McBride
If you are doing this program – there are support groups on the net to help
Also know that apart from the GAPS book and general guidlelines, there is a GAPS Intro diet as well. this may encourage faster healing of the gut and because it is stricter and more specific about how to introduce new foods, food intolerances can be better evaluated.
Good luck – I found the Intro a great experience and probably should do it again!
I have so much energy & I’m loving it !!
day 5 and feeling pretty great! Thank you for announcing the cleanse! I had decided a couple days before your post that it was time for some sort of cleanse, but I was delaying my usual green drinks and all raw fruits/greens due to the still-cold wintery weather here in Seattle. Raw milk has proven quite awesome! My energy levels have balanced nicely, I don’t feel freezing all the time, and I don’t ever feel hungry. The only semi annoying thing is that I have been waking at about 3am since the beginning of the cleanse. Perhaps my liver/gallbladder is working on something or I should stop drinking earlier in the evening to avoid having to wake to pee. Thanks again!
I can’t believe I have gone 5 days on a fast. The first 3 I had headaches but nothing else to complain about. (I never get headaches unless I don’t get my morning coffee so I think that was my problem…quiting coffee cold turkey) I have to say the best part so far is I sleep so much better. I work nights, so I switch back and forth from sleeping days to sleeping nights and that is hard to adjust to, but since starting this, I have been able to sleep both days or nights. I haven’t paid much attention to how much I drink….just drink when I’m hungry, but I’ve lost 5lbs. I can’t wait to get back to food, however. I love my meals but I’m going to eat less and enjoy it more. 5 more days to go. (I started one day later than the group)
I ended my fast already, but I did an experiment today… I noticed last Saturday, when I forgot to wear deodorant, that I didn’t smell bad all day (it was day 4 of my fast). So, today I went without deodorant again and had the same results! This may not be unusual for some people, but it is amazing to me
Usually, if I forget to use deo, I cannot leave the house! This detox was just what my body needed.
I am having a rough day today as I woke up with the roof of my mouth being swollen and lots of mucas. My face and every bone in it hurts so bad. I am truely hoping this is from the detox as I have no signs of a cold. No sore throat, fever, no runny nose. So I hope this ends quickly though It is almost 10 pm and I have felt terrible all day. I had 4 and a half glasses of milk and 2 glasses of water.
Hi, I just read about this, and I would like to have a go, although it will not be in the next few days. (And it’s not spring here in NZ at the moment
). I was wondering if you know by any chance what pressure the kidneys are under with the detox that comes with the fast. I’ve had a kidney transplant that works ok but not 100%, and I don’t want to put it under more stress. I know I’m not supposed to do liver detox because of that. Maybe I should shorten the time? And do you have to prepare for it like for other fasts?
there’s a free book on line you could read, go to http://www.milk-diet.com. I mentions healing kidneys, and also when the milk diet may not be good.