Debunking the Absurd Notion of Vitamin D in Mushrooms

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By Sylvia P. Onusic, PhD, CNS, LDN

The majority of the US population today, anywhere from 30% to 80%, are vitamin D deficient (1).

This is concerning because scientists have found that not only is it necessary for calcium absorption in order to build strong bones, but vitamin D plays a major role in many body processes such as brain development and plasticity, immunity and autoimmunity.

Vitamin D deficiency is strongly related to the development of diabetes, autism, psoriasis, tuberculosis, osteoporosis, multiple sclerosis, Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s Disease and cancer, even hypertension and psoriasis.

In addition, vitamin D helps to make cathelicidin which kills pathogens like tuberculosis in the body, herpes in the brain, and many others. In the research, colon cancer development is strongly linked to D3 deficiency (2).

Vitamin D has become a superhero.

Why the epidemic of vitamin D deficiency?

For starters, the best way for humans to get vitamin D is from the sun and most Americans today are sun-phobic with Helicopter Moms everywhere slathering up their children with sunscreen even before spending just a few minutes in the sun.

Traditionally sun bathing was considered optimum for health but in the last 50 years the sun has become the enemy.

Most sunscreens, themselves loaded with toxins such as parabens, titanium and other substances considered carcinogenic, are slathered on the body liberally with children most susceptible (3).

The medical establishment has warned about the dreaded skin cancer melanoma from too much exposure and accordingly most humans have cut themselves off the free and natural source of vitamin D that comes with sensible sunning.

Cod liver oil, which was long known to prevent D3 deficiency has been forgotten and shunned by some who say it contains too much vitamin A although cod liver oil was used for decades to cure and protect children from rickets, a potentially crippling disease (4).

During the winter, ultraviolet rays from the sun are not available in many places in the world, and it is difficult for many with their busy lives and those whose dietary choices preclude using fish and other animal sources, to get enough sun. Because vitamin D is so crucial to health, researchers are looking for other ways to supply vitamin D to a public literally starved for lack of this critical nutrient.

Vitamin D in Mushrooms?

In the past few years many blogs have expounded on the “glorious” vitamin D properties of mushrooms.

“Mushrooms are not only wonderful sources of vitamin D, but they offer us many opportunities for maintaining and improving health,” says mycologist Paul Stamets (5).

But that wonderful source he’s talking about is vitamin D2, which is otherwise made artificially from radiating ergot and yeasts. Just recently experiments showed that Vitamin D2 can also be produced from irradiation of some mushrooms or by growing them in the sun (6).  While this is an improvement over D2 supplementation which has been associated with adverse effects due to contamination (7), it still doesn’t hold a candle to Vitamin D3 obtained from animal foods.

Nothing Against Mushrooms, but Don’t Rely on Them for Vitamin D!

Mushrooms are great. I love to cook with them and to gather them in the forest.

For me, it’s an ethnic inheritance: my Slovenian father gathered them every Fall and my Mother’s Polish brothers did the same. Mother told me stories about long hours cleaning and drying mushrooms as a child but reaping the rewards later with tasty mushroom soup when the snow was falling. But we didn’t eat mushrooms for their nutritional properties back then but for their taste.

Now for the rest of the story.

The natural form of vitamin D that is active in humans is vitamin D3, also called cholecalciferol, which is much more efficient in raising and sustaining blood levels of Vitamin D.

Humans who get sun exposure between the hours of 10 AM to 3 PM in the late spring, summer, and early fall store vitamin D in their body fat which is released throughout the winter months, allowing them to be vitamin D sufficient throughout the year.

The body controls levels of vitamin D so no matter how much sun you get, levels will not rise too high to become toxic (8).  Still, sensible sunning should always be the rule!

Food Sources of Vitamin D3 (Hint: It’s not Mushrooms!)

Vitamin D3 occurs naturally in cod liver oil, fish oil and wild fish such as salmon, sardines, herring and cod which are the best sources, and is metabolized from them in the same pathway as is the D3 derived from sunlight (9).

Farmed fish are fed GMO (genetically modified) corn and soybeans and do not develop sufficient levels of vitamin D3 (10).

Natural D3 is also contained in blood sausage, some organ meats, butter and raw milk from cows on pasture, and eggs from pastured hens. Pasteurized milk contains a synthetic form of vitamin D3. Unfortunately fortified foods with synthetic vitamin D provide most of the vitamin D in the American diet.

Vitamin D3 supplements are made from irradiating lanolin from sheep skins (11).

Dangers of Vitamin D2 (Viosterol) for Pregnant Women

Shortly after its discovery in the early 1920’s, Vitamin D2 was patented and licensed to pharmaceutical companies. Dr. Weston Price wrote about synthetic D2, called Viosterol at that time, in his major work, Nutrition and Physical Degeneration in 1938, now in its 8th printing.

Dr. Price wondered if Vitamin D2 was indeed toxic based on the work of Dr. Wayne Brehm who published an article in the Ohio State Medical Journal about babies born to a group of women who took Viosterol D2 during pregnancy versus those moms who took only cod liver oil.

The mothers who consumed Vitamin D2 showed “moderate to marked placenta calcification,” and the skulls of their babies, “moderate closure of the fontanels,” a sign of abnormal calcification. Those who received Vitamin D2 plus calcium had “extensive calcification in the placenta and marked closure of the fontanels, with marked calcification in the kidneys“ showing extremely abnormal results (12). The Vitamin D2 was directing calcium into soft tissues and into the bones of the babies’ skulls which need to remain flexible during birthing and to accommodate further brain growth.

Are You Vitamin D Deficient?

How to determine if you are vitamin D deficient?

Doctors and laboratories judge deficiency by testing the levels of the vitamin D intermediate, 25 hydroxyvitamin D3, also called 25 (OH) D3, which is made from vitamin D in the liver and circulates in the blood.

If levels are:

  • 10-20 ng/ml: Rickets and osteomalacia, the classical diseases of vitamin D deficiency, occur between these levels.
  • 21–29 ng/ml and 20-40 ng/ml:  Subclinical vitamin D deficiency or ‘vitamin D insufficiency, These levels may contribute to the burden of chronic diseases, particularly osteomalacia, osteoporosis, and possibly cancer, cardiovascular disease, type 2 diabetes, and infectious and autoimmune disorders.
  • 40-64 ng/ml:  Proposed optimal range for D3 by some researchers.
  • 100 ng/ml and above:  Can lead to toxicity in the general population (13-14).

Symptoms of vitamin D deficiency (rickets in children and osteomalacia in adults) include bone pain and tenderness, dental deformities, muscle cramps, short stature (in adults), skeletal deformities (bowlegs, bumps in the ribcage, scoliosis).

The most common physical symptoms in children include bulges at the wrist, and banana shaped bowed arms and legs (15).

Vitamin D deficiency does not only show up in physical affects but neurological effects as well. Low levels of vitamin D have been linked to schizophrenia and autism (16).

Rickets was almost eradicated in the 1940’s when cod liver oil was commonly given to children but doctors report that it has returned “with hundreds of children developing the condition every year.” The signs are most obvious during periods of rapid growth and between the ages 6-24 months. Experts have connected this resurgence to the increased amount of time spent indoors at school instead of outside at recess, and at the computer or watching TV instead of playing outdoors out of the sun. British authorities blame the comeback on the popularity of vegan and macrobiotic diets, and avoidance of meat and dairy products (17).

After ingesting foods rich in vitamin D3 or after sun exposure, the provitamin D binds to a protein in the blood which takes it to the liver where it is transformed (hydroxylated) into 25(OH)D3, then carried to the kidneys where it is made into the active form, calcitriol, or 1,25-hydroxyvitamin D3 (18).

The major health effects from vitamin D come through calcitriol’s interaction with the vitamin D receptor (VDR) and the VDR’s interaction with the RXR receptor (the vitamin A receptor). Calcitriol is also made in cells in the breast, prostate, lung, skin, colon, pancreas, and brain which too have vitamin D receptors (VDR). VDRs are also present in the central nervous system and affect neurotransmitters and neurotrophic factors relevant for mental disorders. “Approximately 2776 genomic positions are occupied by a VDR and 229 genes show significant changes in expression in response to vitamin D3″ (19).

Since their discovery at the beginning of the 20th century, D2 and D3 have been used interchangeably and called collectively “vitamin D.” Pharmacy references have officially regarded these two forms as equivalent and interchangeable, yet this presumption of equivalence is based on studies of rickets prevention in infants conducted 70 years ago.

Vitamin D2 and Vitamin D3 are Not the Same Thing (but you can make a lot of money if you are a Vitamin D researcher and pretend they are)

In 1930 researchers already questioned the equivalence of Vitamin D2 and Vitamin D3 while working with cod liver oil verses Viosterol (D2). In 1949 the World Health Organization declared that the two were equivalent. But in the 1950’s preparations made with Vitamin D3 were found to be around 4 times more potent per unit as D2 (20).

Back to Paul Stamets, the founder of Fungi Perfecti and author of several articles on the web who is actively pushing mushrooms as a prime source of vitamin D.

Mr. Stamets is a mycologist, not a nutritionist or biochemist. He studies, sells and promotes mushrooms. In his articles, he incorrectly bases his claims on the premise that D2 and D3 are equal and equivalent which has been debunked by many studies in the past few years, but just recently rekindled by Dr. Michael Holick, one of the most famous vitamin D researchers in the world (21).

A 2008 study of Holick’s seems to give some credence to Stamets claims. Holick found that D2 is as effective as D3 in elevating blood levels of 25(OH)D (if you remember, the form of vitamin D that doctors and laboratories test to gauge vitamin D deficiency). But it seems that Dr. Holick has become a “flip-flopper” on his stance on vitamin D2. Just a year before, in 2007, he stated that “vitamin D2 is approximately 30% as effective as D3 in maintaining 25(OH)D levels, and up to three times as much vitamin D2 may be required to maintain sufficient levels (22)”.

And in an interview Holick insists: “Yes. I identified 25-hydroxyvitamin D3, which is the major circulating form used by physicians to measure vitamin D status in patients worldwide and the active form of vitamin D3 (calcitriol) back in the 1960’s (23)”.

Oh, how the profit motive can change things!  Holick says that he believes that D2 is effective “because of the early literature that proved it was effective in preventing rickets” (1930s), and he hopes that the food industry will eventually fortify foods with vitamin D and it will be D2 versus D3 because D2 is much cheaper to produce (21).  Interestingly, Europe does not allow food fortification with vitamin D2, folic acid or other synthetic vitamins.

Measurement is also an issue. Values for 25(OH)D2 in the Holick study were obtained by subtracting 25(OH) D3 from the total 25(OH)D. Levels of 25 (OH)D2 weren’t actually measured in and of themselves but determined from D3 levels (21).

It is well known that major U.S. food companies fortify their products with synthetic D2. This same study was funded by The Beverage Institute for Health and Wellness, a division of The Coca Cola Company. Futhermore, Dr. Holick is a paid speaker for the drug companies Merck, Eli Lilly, and the food giant, Proctor and Gamble, as well as a consultant for Amgen, Novartis, and Quest Diagnostics, the company that ran the laboratory work in this study. One of his fellow researchers named on the study is the Medical Director of Quest Diagnostics (21). Holick has conducted other studies on D2 in mushrooms funded by the National Mushroom Council (24) and on UV light funded by the UV Light Association.

In the same article the title itself is a bit deceptive: “vitamin D2 is as effective as vitamin D3 in maintaining circulating concentrations of 25-Hydroxvitamin D.” In reality, D2 forms 25(OH)D2 , and D3 forms 25(OH)D3 in the liver, two totally different substances with different pathways and pharmacokinetics (how they are handled in the body).

Vitamin D2 and Vitamin D3 don’t merge or metabolize in the same way at all (19,21)!

How are Vitamin D2 and Vitamin D3 Different?

Here are a few of the most glaring dissimilarities between Vitamin D2 and Vitamin D3.

  •  Their pathways are different.
  • Their structure is different
  • The half- life (how long half of the substance still remains in the system) of 25(OH)D3 is 3-6 weeks while the half- life of 25(OH)D2 is one week which means D2 isn’t around very long.
  • D3 forms the active component calcitriol,(1,25-dihydroxyvitamin D3) while D2 forms 1,25 dihydroxy vitamin D2, which is NOT calcitriol.
  • D2 dosent bind as well with the vitamin D binding protein (DBP) that carries vitamin D around the blood stream.
  • D2 interacts less with the enzyme in the liver which converts it to the intermediate form.
  • The enzymes in the mitochondria (the powerhouses of the body) convert D3 five times as fast as they convert D2.
  • Calcitriol from D3 binds to the vitamin receptor (VDR) up to 40% more than D2, and is able to potentially generate significant biological activity.
  • D3 can cross the blood-brain-barrier to interact with the many VDRs in most parts of the brain which indicates the presence and need for D3 in building the brain.
  • D3 has proven effective in clinical trials in preventing falls whereas no clinical trials have shown D2 effective. Studies have shown the effectiveness of D3 in preserving bone density in older adults and reducing fracture. No studies of D2 have shown that it prevents fractures.
  • D2 is less effective in raising blood levels in older men than in younger men (7,19,21,25,26).

These are just a few ways in which D2 and D3 are different from one another so it really doesn’t matter if mushrooms contain a lot of D2 and D2 raises 25(OH) D2 levels just as much as D3 raises 25(OH)D3 levels — they just aren’t the same thing.

Even if D2 is active with the VDR receptor at a much lower capacity (affinity) than D3, with excessive intake it may reduce the number of binding sites available for D3 at that receptor. A 2012 study using mushrooms treated with UV light and D2 supplements showed an increase in D2 levels but a decrease in D3 levels in subjects who ingested them (27).  Another 2012 study showed 9 times the decline in D3 compared with placebo in subjects taking D2 supplements versus subjects taking D3 supplements (28).

Other studies from researchers have shown that:

  • D3 is more effective in raising vitamin D levels in the blood than D2, up to 70% (1.7 times) greater (29); D3 is approximately 87 percent more potent in raising and maintaining vitamin D concentrations and produces 2- to 3-fold greater storage of vitamin D than does D2 (30).
  • 250 ug (micrograms) of D2 was needed to raise the D levels the same as 100 ug of D3 (18).
  • Over a period of 28 days, D2 and D3 concentrations rose to similar levels but D2 levels fell rapidly down to base values around 14 days, while D3 levels peaked at day 14 and remained above the base levels until 28 days (28).

Dangers of Relying on Vitamin D2 Instead of D3 During Pregnancy

At no other time in life is vitamin D status as important as in pregnancy. If Mom is deficient, baby will be as well. When a woman is pregnant her calcitriol levels (the active form of vitamin D) become extremely elevated, up to a 3-4 fold increase, dependent on the 25(OH)D levels made in the liver.

Pregnancy itself is the primary force behind this increased calcitriol and it is independent of calcium levels. Data has shown that a circulating level of at least 40 ng/ml to 100 ng/ml of 25(OH)D3 is needed to optimize calcitriol production during pregnancy.

There is strong evidence that a woman’s needs for vitamin D are not 400 IU as the government agencies recommend, but 4000 IU/day and 6400IU/day when breastfeeding. Studies have shown these levels of supplementation with D3 have been safe and effective, and infants had “superior vitamin D status.” (14)

Under these circumstances, who would want to trust the health of their baby to Vitamin D2 supplements or mushrooms?

Not me!

The best advice to avoid dangerous Vitamin D deficiency is to get safe sun exposure often and to eat plenty of foods high in vitamin D3, as well as liberal amounts of a quality fermented cod liver oil.

*Vitamin D is the generic name of the vitamin which has several distinct forms, called vitamers. Vitamin D is classified into five different classes numbered from 2–6. D3 is the active form in humans (25). Any reference in this article to vitamin D refers to D3, unless so stated.

About the Author

OLYMPUS DIGITAL CAMERASylvia Onusic is a board certified and licensed nutritionist with a PhD in Public Health Education.

She discovered her gluten sensitivity as an adult after experiencing serious weight gain, disabling arthritis and skin infections. She herself experienced many enamel defects and untold hours of expensive dental work.

One of her main nutritional interests is helping individuals and  families recognize the physical and mental conditions and illnesses related to early gluten sensitivity, celiac disease and other food-related disorders, and how to deal with them to protect the family’s health.

You can read more of her work at her website drsylviaonusic.com or connect with her via Facebook.

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Signs of Vitamin D Deficiency Most People Miss

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Comments (25)

  • Russell Eaton

    Thanks Sylvia for an excellent article on vitamin D. I have read that vitamin D3 supplements can be harmful. Here is what Tim Spector, a professor of Genetic Epidemiology at King’s College London, has to say on the matter:
    “I used to sometimes take vitamin D myself and recommended it to my family to survive sun-starved winters. However, a new study on the risks of vitamin D supplements (Vitamin D Supplementation and Increased Risk of Falling, Steven Cummings, et al, JAMA Intern Med. 2016) has finally convinced me that I was wrong.” Source: sciencealert.com.

    Do you recommend taking vitamin D3 supplements if sunlight is lacking?
    Russell Eaton, author, The Lipo Diet

    April 18th, 2016 6:57 pm Reply
  • Aidan

    They do use synthetic vitamins in Europe, well at least in Britain. They’re in everything :(

    August 3rd, 2015 12:18 pm Reply
  • paul

    D3 is the NATURAL D vitamin! It is what the human body was DESIGNED to cope with! Like it or not we are apes, and our metabolic system is way behind some people’s morality!

    If your diet requires supplements, there is a fundamental flaw in it! Like it or not we NEED meat / animal products to live a healthy life!

    Anything else – you are just kidding yourself

    July 28th, 2015 8:24 am Reply
    • Shanna

      Did you even read the article?

      “The majority of the US population today, anywhere from 30% to 80%, are vitamin D deficient”

      It is almost impossible to believe that that is happening to the society that actually consumes most meat IN THE WORLD! So obviously consuming meat – from US – is not the reliable source of vitamin D. Please think before you say something and maybe if you eat less meat your brain might start working again.

      The animals we eat are SICK! they never even ever see the sun ever, they are humiliated and spanked every day, they have a miserable stressed horrible life, and you eat them. So please welcome to the year 2016 in America where meat no longer has any vitamin D and that’s why we are depleted – because we eat this horrible product. You understand, meat eater?

      February 9th, 2016 5:02 am Reply
      • phbgjf

        haven’t you heard of “fish meat”?
        Before attacking someone try to think twice, you phyto-eater.

        March 30th, 2016 2:21 am Reply
  • Rose

    It sounds like you could not be more wrong about mushrooms and while some of your data is relevant most of it is out of context or seems skewed. You can easily find a wide verity of excellent research on mushrooms and they are applauded as a great source to add vitamin d to your diet with no side effects; like the toxins in fish (mercury) and supplements. usda.gov/SP2UserFiles/Place/80400525/Articles/AICR09_Mushroom_VitD.pdf. All I can say is that your article is the only one I found in many reliable sources that did not support mushrooms in the diet for improving Vitamin D intake in a normal diet.

    July 9th, 2015 7:23 pm Reply
    • Ronnie

      I noticed this too! Somebody at the sluethjournal has even written an article that directly references this article and debunks this article’s debunking “decomposing-the-myth-that-mushrooms-cant-produce-vitamin-d3.” It too, provides references, so I dunno what to think now.

      August 30th, 2015 10:59 pm Reply
  • Jonathan

    There is a home test for Vitamin D? How expensive? I’m gonna have to try and look that up. I’m curious, but don’t feel like having to go to a lab…especially if there is a cheap home method.

    August 19th, 2014 1:35 am Reply
  • Lily

    Can you still take cdo yourself when giving 1/2 tsp to baby and nursing? Would that be too much?

    August 18th, 2014 11:49 am Reply
  • Christine

    Hi I would like to know what dosage to start taking for Vit D green pasture cod liver oil. I am pregnant with baby no. 8 and believe I am getting much more sun than ever having moved to a farm 16mths ago. I was tested by my a Dr. with a deficiency of Vit D about 2 babies ago but did not realise the importance of raising the levels. I am now taking the vitamin Vitamin Code Raw Prenatal and my levels have increase within just normal range however they would like them higher. I am also on blood pressure meds (2 diff kinds) and have hated putting extra things into my body over the years. I am 31 weeks pregnant also taking coconut oil. What dosage should I start with regarding FCLO? Many thanks Christine

    August 14th, 2014 1:38 am Reply
  • CiCi

    I am sorry to see the author didn’t mention the importance of taking vitamin K2 (not to be confused with vitamin K1), in conjunction with Vitamin D3, and with magnesium and vitamin A, as well. If a person takes cod liver oil, there is no need to supplement with vitamin A. Without vitamin K2, vitamin D cannot do it’s magic with many of the benefits listed in the article.

    August 3rd, 2014 2:04 pm Reply
  • Portia

    Hi Dr. Onusic! Thanks for this post. I just started doing my own investigating into the best way to get whole food vitamin D3 since the sun isn’t always a realistic option. I am shocked to see all of the controversy over this ever so important nutrient! It seems as though there is much debate over whether or not mushrooms can contain D3. All of your points and research sound extremely valid but why do some scientists still continue to argue that they have done studies and find D3 in mushrooms? I am not talking about scientists who have ties to particular products but rather independent scientists. What do you think about the following article and how do you suggest getting an organic whole food vitamin d3 supplement when the sun isn’t always an option? Thanks! http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130422132801.htm

    August 2nd, 2014 2:07 pm Reply
  • Aleesha

    I really appreciated this article! I live in Alaska where during the winter months it is nothing but darkness. So we all have to find other ways of getting our vitamin D. Right now we are soaking up as much as we can since it is sunshine almost all day long. :)

    August 1st, 2014 12:43 am Reply
  • Jean Chao

    Hi Dr. Onusic,

    I’m interested In the vitamin D home test kit. Would appreciate info on how to obtain one.

    Thanks much,
    Jean

    August 1st, 2014 12:43 am Reply
  • Vicki K

    Re Vitamin D3, D2, and mushrooms article — I am allergic to lanolin so cannot take D3 supplements, they give me a horrific headache. When I rubbed lanolin cream on my husband’s feet, my hands turned red and were burned. Should I take the supplements anyway? I gave up on D2, which is what the docs give me Rx. It raised 25 OH level from 11 to 22 in ONE YEAR. I am fairly housebound, can’t get enough sun (heat and cold bother my illnesses). Someone suggested D3 from plants, Vitashine brand, would that be chlorella or ergot? I have a lot of candida too, I want NO yeast. My doc is not interested. HELP!! Thank you.

    July 30th, 2014 12:30 am Reply
    • Beth

      I suggest fermented cod liver oil by Green Pasture and the other foods recommended in the article.

      July 30th, 2014 7:51 pm Reply
    • Sylvia Onusic

      You are very deficient and best plan would be to actively work to raise D3 levels.During the summer think about ways that you could get outside for 15-30 minutes between noon and 200 PM. Taking D2 you raise D2 levels and even though your lab results increased, you read how impotent D2 is compared to D3. Best to use natural sources of D3 as in foods and cod liver oil. I am researching the possibility of a specific sun lamp in the production of D3. This might also be a way to go… my D is also low in the winter and I am careful to take cod liver oil daily. . I keep on top of it with the home finger stick test.

      July 31st, 2014 3:48 pm Reply
  • Aliyannas

    I find it incredibly interesting and funny that people would not stop and think about mushrooms and Vit D…the uh SUNSHINE mushroom. Mushies take 3 things to grow…..warmth, moisture and darkness. Where in the heck would they get it from?

    July 29th, 2014 11:37 pm Reply
    • Aliyanna

      OOOOPS!!! Fingers not as fast as the brain….I meant to say…Sunshine vitamin!!! Sorry!!

      July 29th, 2014 11:39 pm Reply
    • Sylvia Onusic

      Great comment. The mushrooms have to be artificially irradiated to produce D2.
      And in their natural state, as you explain, they do not grown in light, but in darkness.

      July 31st, 2014 3:34 pm Reply
      • Erik D. Schmid

        In reality, you are both incorrect. Many species will fruit in the sun. For example, Stropharia Rugoso Annulata (Garden Giant) is commonly referred to as a sun loving mushroom species.

        The levels of Vitamin D2 found in mushrooms will vary by strain and also by preparation. Drying mushrooms in the sunlight for a specific period of time increases their vitamin content exponentially as opposed to drying them in darkness. They do not need to be artificially irradiated.

        To be truthful, Mr. Stamets calls for mushrooms to be used as a supplemental aid to the diet, not as the sole source of the vitamin.

        August 18th, 2014 11:59 am Reply
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  • Beth

    Thank you for laying the mushrooms-vitamin D myth to rest, Dr. Onusic, and for providing such fascinating, detailed information.

    It was interesting to learn that Vitamin D3 supplements are made from irradiating lanolin from sheep skins. Can you tell us a little more about this, such as the process, the pros and cons, etc.?

    Also, I had thought that pig fat (lard) from pasture-raised pigs is also a good source of vitamin D3, since pigs metabolize vitamin D from the sun like we do.

    July 29th, 2014 12:37 pm Reply
    • Sylvia Onusic

      Lard from pastured pigs is a good source of D3. Thanks for that comment. Lanolin is irradiated to produce the vitamin D3 used in supplements but in a sense, it is artificial. Better to use natural sources as much as possible. And supplements don’t work for many people.

      For pros and cons, the vitamin D receptor interacts with the vitamin A receptor to make its magic. But if vitamin A from animal sources is lacking the ability of D will be reduced. Supplements can contain very high doses of D3 but no vitamin D. As for making vitamin A from carotene, many people cannot make the conversion, especially diabetics, children and ill people. I see carotene or plant sources of vitamin A in most multiple vitamins. Cod liver oil contains both vitamins as well as EPA and DHA so why not go for it? The fermented brand is the best choice because it is not made with
      heat. .

      To check your vitamin D levels, you con contact me for a home test that is simple and easy to use.

      July 31st, 2014 3:43 pm Reply
      • Beth

        Thanks for your reply. I’m assuming you meant to end this sentence with “A” rather than “D”:
        “Supplements can contain very high doses of D3 but no vitamin D.”

        Thanks for the reminder that vitamins A & D are synergistic and should ideally be consumed from natural sources in the right ratio, such as in the unheated, fermented cod liver oil and other foods discussed.

        August 1st, 2014 3:56 pm Reply

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