Independent Experts Identify Dangerous Viral Gene in GM Foods

by Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist January 24, 2013

My post on the how to keep Monsanto out of your home garden seems to have really hit a nerve with supporters of GM foods.

This morning, I received an email from the CEO/President of a large soybean seed company in the Midwest who writes:

I just read your article “The Four Steps Required To Keep Monsanto Out of Your Garden”.   I favor choice when it comes to the food you eat and agree with you on that part . I do not agree that it is right to attack Monsanto and all the good work that they are doing to increase yields for farmers to keep the price of food low enough so the poorest of the poor can afford to eat.  If we all had to eat organic many people in this world would starve due to the higher cost of food and lower production.

I respect your views but attacking Monsanto is not in the interest of poor people and world food production. GMO’s are not bad and have passed all the standards set by regulatory systems around the world and are proven safe. Thanks for listening.

My word for word email response?

Stop drinking the Kool-Aid my friend.

GMOs are far from “proven safe” as this CEO claims and the sob story that Monsanto is somehow helping the poor and starving people of the world is nothing but a PR stunt that while effective, has no basis in truth or reality.

As Mark Twain once said, “It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled.”

There are many highly capable and obviously intelligent people that have completely bought the scam that GMOs are safe and going to feed the world baloney.

Perhaps this most recent news out of Europe will give them a much need kick in the pants to wake them up to the reality of the situation.

Independent Experts Find GM Foods Contain Dangerous Gene

The European Union’s official, independent food watchdog group, the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA), is reporting that the approval process for GM crops failed to identify a poisonous gene discovered in 54 of 86 GM plants.

Most alarmingly, this viral gene known as “GENE VI” was discovered in the most widespread GM crops, notably corn and soy, which are heavily used in animal feed for livestock producing meat, milk, and eggs.

How did the viral gene get into the GM crops in the first place?

The problem starts right in the laboratory where GM foods are synthesized by an army of scientists playing God with millions of unsuspecting guinea pigs blithely buying unlabeled GM laced products at the supermarket.

These scientists insert foreign genes from other organisms (plant or animal) into a target plant using a technique which allows these foreign genes to “piggyback” on common soil or plant based viruses. 

Assumption is the Mother of Error it seems as these scientists had expected that the virus genes transporting the foreign genes into the target plant would not be present once the GM plant was actually grown in the field.   

The EFSA research (Independent Science News) has now conclusively shown that this major assumption upon which the supposed “safety” of GMOs is based is not the case.

Not. Even. Close.

How the presence of this viral gene could have been missed by the biotech companies, government regulators, and even university scientists is beyond comprehension.  

The EFSA research indicated the following:

This situation represents a complete and catastrophic system failure.

There are clear indications that this viral gene might not be safe for human consumption. It also may disturb the normal functioning of crops, including their natural pest resistance.

A reasonable concern is that the protein produced by Gene VI might be a human toxin. This is a question that can only be answered by future experiments.

Dr. Julian Little, chairman of the Agricultural Biotechnology Council (ABC) which represents the biotech companies, had this to say in response:

... nearly three trillion meals containing GM ingredients have been eaten without a single substantiated case of ill-health. The combination of these two facts can give consumers a huge amount of confidence in the safety of GM crops.

I guess Dr. Little isn’t really paying attention to the skyrocketing cases of food allergies and digestive complaints in the past decade or so, particularly allergies to corn and soy, the top two GM crops.

It’s always easier to just continue with business as usual and hide behind PR campaigns focusing on starving children and fudged reports about the “safety” of frankenfoods when the corporate bottom line (and the McMansion mortgage payment) is at stake, isn’t it Mr. CEO?

 

Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

Source:  Uncovered, the “toxic” gene hiding in GM crops: Revelation throws new doubt over the safety of foods

 

Comments (171)

  1. I live in Nebraska-the heart of fields full of corn. Most of this corn is used for feed for cows, high fructose corn syrup and bio-fuel. I’m sorry, when farmers claim “we need GMO’s to help feed the world’, it’s just bull****! They are fooling people, thinking this is corn that we eat in our food-besides hfcs. We don’t need corn to feed our cows-cows were not created to eat corn! And we don’t need hfcs to make us fat and make our kids act crazy! I’m just tired of that “let’s feed the world” excuse because what they are growing is for the wrong reasons.

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    • EXACTLY. Most GMO crops are NOT used directly for human consumption but are instead used for animal feed, chemical production, fuel, and corn syrup. Kindra hit the nail on the head!

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    • Kindra,

      Farmers only know what they are lead to believe! In order to make any changes the farmers are the ones that must be educated!! Bring the fight to the farmers. Every farmer in America will have to unite in order to make a dent in the damages that Monsanto and Gang have made. For now, farmers hands are tied. America, Stand by Your Farmer because they can not win this fight, alone!

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    • I live in IA, my brother-in-law farms in NE. A while back we were talking about GMO’s & he stated his renter turned the livestock into the field and they wouldn’t touch the ears of corn but foraged around it. He made the comment about what are we eating, if the animals wouldn’t eat it.

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  2. I agree with Kindra. The “we need GMOs to feed the world” myth is pretty deeply entrenched and widespread, even among many environmentally and socially conscious people. Nevermind all the safety concerns about GMOs. Fundamentally, we must improve access to fresh food and make smaller scale and subsistence farming a viable option again, both in the US and worldwide. If people can grow (or trade for) most of their own food, rather than needing income to buy it, that can solve part of world hunger. We have plenty of food here in the US but it’s mostly in the form of grains being fed to livestock!

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      • Excellent point! I try and buy Organic when possible. Had a group of friends over for brunch yesterday, wanted to add asparagus to the menu and almost dropped dead when I saw the Organic Asparagus was $8.00/lb vs $1.64 for the code 4### asparagus

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    • Great point. I can provide proof of this. Here in Germany, for example, GMO crops are highly regulated and often fined if they cross pollinate with neighbor crops. The opposite is true in the U.S. Here Organic produce, and Organically raised livestock that produce meats, milk and eggs are just slightly higher priced than ‘conventional’ items. Again unlike in the U.S.

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  3. The man is delusional. I just read an article about quinoa. It was a cheap, plentiful indigenous food, until it became popular. Now the price has tripled, at least, and the poor people of South America export it to rich Americans, rather than feeding their children. Now they use the money to buy – what exactly? Cheap Monsanto soybeans? The same thing is happening in Peru with the exported asparagus and is it Columbia? – wherever the tea roses come from. The land no longer grows food for the people, just mono crops for export.

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  4. If you spend any time really looking at what’s behind this, it’s pretty clear things aren’t as they seem. If you want a great source on GMO go to: http://www.responsibletechnology.org/ . And I certainly don’t find hungry people acceptable, but that doesn’t mean GMO is the way to solve it. Check out this article about what happened when Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack tried to pitch that explanation to a room fool of experts: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-smith/vilsack-mistakenly-pitche_b_319998.html

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  5. Not to mention the fact our society wastes nearly 50% of the food we produce. GMO’s will never meet the hunger needs of the poor. He’s sickeningly uninformed. I suggest he watch Dive! and read your blog more often. He will learn something.
    MissLoveB\’s last post: Live with intent…

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  6. Sarah,
    I congratulate you for your far-reaching blog. It is so easy for one to feel useless in affecting change in the world but here you are with your voice being heard. Thank you!

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    • Andrea Monsanto Troll July 9, 2013 at 7:20 am

      It really helps your argument Andrea S to have so many sites in your response to combat what Sarah has posted. Good mothers teach their children to keep hate and nastiness to themselves, but since your mother failed you, I just figured I’d point out that your comment was hateful and unnecessary. You would do well to drink your Kool Aid and let the big people discuss. TIA!

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  7. Whenever I hear someone say that Monsanto is somehow “saving the world’s poor…” I get a little queasy. First, many people all over the world have grown their own food for years and years. No need for GMO seeds to grow your own food. And the reason organic foods aren’t affordable for so many are many thanks to Monsanto and USDA being in bed together keeping paperwork and certifications at high costs for those trying to grow real food. How about the fact that I can buy local, pastured eggs for $3/dozen rather than buying free range eggs from the store $4.79. I think that I pay .21 per dozen than the cheapest eggs I can find at the store.

    Rather than thinking the solution is a scientist thinking they know how to feed our bodies the way we need, why not join forces with an organization that allows you to buy a goat and send it to the poor in foreign countries. Or the wonderful stories I’ve read of community gardens that feed so many people struggling financially in their own communities. There has to be a way to take care of our communities AND feed them well with real food. This victim mentality that we can’t take of ourselves and each other with organic food is a cop-out. I’m from the midwest as well and my tiny garden of non-gmo seeds and manure was way too much food to feed just my family and I have a ton frozen for the winter months.

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    • I never said that. But hey, like I didn’t say, it is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled.

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  8. How can anyone believe a big company in business to MAKE MONEY cares about the poor? Moreover, many of the foods Monsanto encourages farmers to grow is not indigenous to their area. The poor literally have no idea how to cook or eat the crops. A friend who is actively working with farmers in other countries to grow local food has been telling me that for years.
    I have a couple friends who worked for Monsanto. They were chemists who worshipped their company. I never saw such open adoration for a business. Until they got laid off quite abruptly. Monsanto, I believe, encourages such worship.

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  9. If they truly care about feeding poor people, maybe they could stop spending the millions they do on lobbying, litigation against organic farmers, suppressing research and labeling.

    Then they would be able to compete in a market without government subsidies and still make a fair profit. And poor people would be able to eat the food they choose, since without the government subsidies, it would all cost about the same….

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    • Exactly! The market is imperfect and skewed, leading to artificially low food prices. If we must subsidize food production, then perhaps we should subsidize things other than corn, to give other farming methods and food products a fair chance.

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  10. Wow, this must be the company comeback/sales pitch to tell the public!. Feed them this line and try to “guilt” people into accepting their views.
    It is crazy how agressive they have become. I recently lost a friend due to this propaganda. As their spouse works in the GMO industry (Sales), she attacked me during a conversation one day, telling me that I was ignorant and selfish to be sharing education on GMOs on my own FB page. I did not bring up this conversation and was not going to get into a debate while out at lunch. At the end of it, she told myself and our other friend that she could no longer be friends due to our differences on GMOs…

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  11. We used to live in UK where GMO food is not legal, but certain people are pushing to try to make it legal. Part of that push is through education of children. My son told us that one day in school they had an entire class dedicated to teaching the children about the benefits of GMO foods and how GMOs will eradicate world hunger and help save the environment. That same week there was a television show on Channel 4 about how people’s fear of GMOs is irrational. As far as I know GMO food still isn’t sold there, but they are pushing for it. The unfortunate thing is people like the person who wrote you this letter believe the hype.
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  12. There’s a verse from the book of Proverbs that says, “there is a way that seems right to a man, but it’s end is the way of death.” (14:12) Never have I felt so strongly about the truth of this in regards to the transformation that’s taken place in the food industry. Maybe in the beginning there was a desire to serve a better purpose?? But now I’d say that GMO is serving the DECREASE the surplus population – not help it at all! The love of money is the root of all evil……..

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  13. It is TOTAL BS. More and more countries are turning down GMO seeds, free at first but then the farmer has to buy them each year and the assorted required chemical sprays. Brazil recently cut ties with USAID specifically because they do not want to become monsanto seed slaves. Kudos to them and the other countries who see the initial free seeds as a long time impoverishing nightmare.

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    • What about the inconvenient fact that the GMOs are engineered to take MORE pesticide (Roundup) not less? Roundup on it’s own has been linked to cattle deaths. Ranchers are getting out of business – disproportional amount of stillborn calves.

      Professor Don Huber of Purdue University wrote to the Obama administration last term warning not to go ahead with the approval of GMO alfalfa. An entity was discovered (not yet named) in animal tissues fed GMOs (i& Roundup residue).. The Chinese government was so concerned that they contacted professor Huber about the odd, unidentified specks in animal tissue.

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  14. Oh, thanks, Mr.CEO. I just remembered I forgot to send Monsanto a Thank You card for creating DDT and Agent Orange. So wonderful.

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  15. I 100% agree that Monsato is no good and has destroyed the ability for small farmers to be competitive and independent….but the study referenced from France had a number of uncontrolled variables…and the study rats they used are ones bred to have short lives and are highly susceptible to genetic mutations (natural and environmentally caused) along with a number of other problems with the study. Show me 5 or 6 other independent, empirical studies that are much better designed and report GMO’s cause cancer then I will believe it. Navigating the sea of misinformation out there is tough, which is why I won’t let my biases overlook what the science really says.
    But that’s just the academic in me that’s bothered.

    All that aside- TOTALLY agree that our food production processes are completely out of whack- environmentally, health-wise, and economically. I buy organic produce when I can afford it, and I ALWAYS buy hormone and antibiotic-free meat

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    • Matt's Wild Cherry January 25, 2013 at 11:23 pm

      Sarah isn’t refering to the rat tumor study in her blog post. She’s referencing a more recent study that found a viral gene in the actual plant. The linked article has all the details. Click through to read them.

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  16. If the CEO of a seed supply company is reading your blog, well done. You are obviously reaching large groups of sheeple…I mean people.

    I’ve had an idea floating around in my head for a few years. Someday I’d like to start a non-profit to benefit the “poor people” in my community. I’d love to find people willing to turn their back yards into container gardens and then teach these people how to garden and prepare the food they grow. I’m not sure how to make it happen yet, but one of these days I’m going to bring good food to the poor, one backyard garden at a time.

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  17. Alternative headings for your CEO’s letter (and maybe even great headlines for a newspaper or TV report):

    Poor in America Forced to Eat Killer Virus OR
    “Philanthropic” Monsanto’s Hidden Agenda to Sterilize the Poor OR
    GMO Safety Experiments Now Under Way on Unsuspecting Americans

    Do I need a liability statement here? How’s this: “Just kidding Monsanto. I only wrote it for the laughs.”

    I don’t want to get sued and spend all my money on lawyers. Because if I did I might only be able to afford GMO foods, and I can’t have that!

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  18. I also thought it interesting when the news just (within the last week) presented an article about how half (really…50% was the figure given) the food produced in this world is wasted…either thrown out or it doesn’t get to the people who are supposed to receive it (think aid food) for one reason or another. If that is the case, would it not make more sense to figure out to fix this problem with the existing non-GMO’S crops instead of tinkering with what it took nature so many years to develop naturally?

    Just thinking…

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  19. Sarah:

    Interesting post, but a comment or two. First off, I’ve no love for Monsanto either, as I’ve heard many of the tales about the things they’ve done to farmers, and their fight against food labeling, etc. I also appreciate your effort to educate and enlighten, especially those who haven’t fully woken up yet to what they are putting in their bodies, but when you use phrases such as, “where GM foods are synthesized by an army of scientists playing God with millions of unsuspecting guinea pigs blithely buying” – you really come across as kind of crazy. No doubt you are passionate about what you do, but when you engage in hyperbole such as this, you are not helping those you really need to help: the casual reader and consumer who wants to make a change, or thinks there is something better out there, but isn’t quite sure where to go. Using such phrases destroys the more reasoned and calm approach you make in other parts of your response, which is a more effective approach to diffuse and dismantle the claims made by the Other Side, and win more converts to yours, rather than possibly push them away.

    Please, keep up the good work, but please, keep it Real.

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    • I completely agree here. I WANT to be able to send this to friends and family, to help them get it…but I can’t because of things like this. Hyperbole definitely discredits, even if the message is spot on. Facts, numbers, stats, well thought out discussions are awesome. But this isn’t that.

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      • Well said. I often get tired up about things as well and forget that by not exercising restraint, I am working against myself.

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  20. As someone who qualifies as “poor” under US federal poverty guidelines (although I would be rich under 3rd world standards), I don’t want to eat GMO foods. I’ve learned enough about these foods to know that all of the hype about GM is pretty much just that.

    It’s sad how misinformed some even educated can be about GMs. My husband is in law school, and one of his professors in a technology class, IMO, is a shill for the GM industry. He came home from one of his first classes with this guy telling me about how wonderful GM foods are and all of the amazing things that they could do with it, like making vaccines in food or making blue roses. Caused a couple arguments, and we have agreed to disagree. I personally don’t care if they use GM to make blue roses, or products that I’m not going to eat, but as far as food is concerned, I’d rather not eat a science experiment. When I was poisoning myself with aspartame, I didn’t know how I was damaging myself until more than a decade later.

    If we really have a food shortage, perhaps instead of having lawns we should start growing food as the norm instead. That’s what they did in the Medieval Warm period when they had an actual shortage of food; they grew food in every possible space that they could.
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    • I kinda believe life on this planet is a matrix, dependent on each other from the top to the bottom. This balance of life has been in place for eons. Then along came government protection of corporations.

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    • The problem with gardens instead of lawns is where you have them. A number of cases have been popping up where residents are being ticketed for having gardens in their front yards instead of lawns. Nice, neat gardens apparently belong only in the backyard where no one can see them.

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      • True, Virginia. It’s sad that people don’t find food beautiful. I love looking at other people’s gardens.

        If I was in that situation I’d build a pretty little white picket fence in front of it. Then if they still had a problem with it I’d paint things or decoupage the front outside of the fence. Ain’t pretty enough YET?!!! bastards.

        Useless is deemed worthy and acceptable while nutritious and vital is deemed unsightly.

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  21. ” If we all had to eat organic many people in this world would starve due to the higher cost of food and lower production.” The reason we have “organic” in the first place is BECAUSE of companies like Monsanto and their affiliates! They are the ones poisoning our food supply with chemicals! Before them, EVERYTHING was ORGANIC because that’s the way God created it! There was nothing else, and everyone ate just fine.
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  22. I posted this article on my fb page, and had someone reply against it. Here was one of the articles he pointed me to. Would you please read it and reply? I just don’t know what to think on any of this!

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  23. You know you are hitting the mark when you get a reply like that. I seriously doubt the writer has any interests in poor people and their ability to eat. That is just a smokescreen for a rather pathetic attempt to use moral persuasion in the absence of any intellectual argument.

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  24. Wow really? 3 million quiet guinea pig experiements somehow proves GM foods are safe? That’s what that Dr. had to say? Wow just wow.

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  25. Wow, has he never heard of the scores of Indian farmers committing suicide thanks to the ‘help’ they’ve received from Monsanto?

    I love how you set this pompous jackass straight!

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  26. Hi Sarah,

    I’ve been taking Bio-Kult probiotics for about 6 months now…love them. However, I just re-read the ingredients list and noticed that soy (soya) is included in trace amounts. Since I know you do your research, do you have any information about whether the soy in Bio-Kult is GMO free?

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    • Heather, you could easily contact the company and ask. I’m sure they have an email, phone number or other means of contacting with questions on their website.

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  28. GMOs feeding the world makes no sense to me – now that it is proven that yields are not higher with GMO crops. (And they need more chemicals.) They are just a patented annual money making replacement for established, working farmable land. If they really wanted to feed the world, Monsanto and the like would help plant their seeds on land not already being farmed and producing crops. They would help build irrigation to dry areas. GMOS feeding the world is nonsense. They have zero reason for selling their seed aside from controlling the food supply for profit and power.

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  29. Obviously the CEO has not done his research or he would know that only 5 or 6 countries around the world still have GMO foods in their supermarkets – everywhere else it is banned!! Lets think about that for a while… If everyone was taught proper nutrition, with community gardens, and we had more local markets – organic food would be a lot cheaper. Not only that but no cost added for pesticides and added cost for genetic engineering of plants. Also – the cost of cancer?? anyone??? That is much more expensive. Cannot believe someone that could be that high up in a company actually not know ANYTHING about this stuff.

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  30. Does anyone else see red flags when they read over the “email”? I’m just not feeling it. It doesn’t sound very professional, and is not nearly as well written as one would expect for a so called CEO/president of a large midwestern soybean company. The whole thing just sounds too contrived. And then there’s the popular but fake Mark Twain quote. Now I dislike GMOs just as much as most other people on here, but how about we take EVERYTHING with a grain of sea salt. Never stop thinking, people.

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  31. One of the last paragraphs in this post leaves me feeling a bit mixed… “I guess Dr. Little isn’t really paying attention to the skyrocketing cases of food allergies and digestive complaints in the past decade or so, particularly allergies to corn and soy, the top two GM crops.” I do not see how GM and soy/corn have anything to do with each other. If I read this correctly, the assumption is that because soy and corn are GM this is the reason why people have allergies to those particular foods? It has been pretty well documented that folks who relied on corn as a staple like the Native Americans in the southwest US had horrible dental carries and died at younger ages than their meat eating neighbors who avoided grains. We can’t really speak on their allergies, but I would suspect that if these folks had diseases such as these then we might safely assume immune function problems as well. I think this post is conflating issues a bit. Now, I would be more convinced if people were having issues to apples and lettuce that are GM, but that is not mentioned in this article really. Naturally allergenic foods are being held culpable for some physiological problems, but Sarah seems to point the finger at GM being the problem here rather than the nature of the food itself. I am not in favor of GM either, however, it is important to not confuse variables.

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    • Watch Genetic Roulette by Jeffrey Smith. It shows how GMOs damage the body. One problem that they cause is called leaky gut. Leaky gut leads to allergies, inflamation and a ton of other problems.

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  32. Rodale describes and has written wonderful articles regarding how Organic would be better at feeding the world – that would have been the best route to take. More people need to understand that

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  33. I hope you don’t listen to anyone telling you to tone down your rhetoric regarding this most important evil rush for power and control by Monsanto. People need to be shocked. People need to be informed. People must stop supporting Monsanto. Knowing how to do that is of the utmost importance. Thank you for being brave and telling the truth.

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  34. The reason mostly that the poor in developing countries are starving is because mega-corporations have driven them off their traditional farm lands and into the polluted cities. People are starving cause they can’t feed themselves anymore, not due to a lack of GMO produce.

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  35. Corn, soybeans, wheat, rice, & cotton seed, are subsidized by the government for the benefit of monsanto. These subsidies divert grazing land to row crops, reducing livestock production which in turn increases the price of meat. There is a difference between a welfare sod buster, and a real farmer.

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  36. What ever happened to “First, Do no Harm?” That needs to be the rule in EVERYTHING. PROVE it is safe, for the world to see. If it can’t be proved, then don’t eat it. Monsanto is just about the money and control. So obvious. So sad. To the families of the world, please take time to educate yourself on everything that affects your family. Do not put your trust in any but God. Test it to see if it is good. This means everything…education, food, medicine, religion, EVERYTHING. God bless you in your search for the TRUTH.

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  37. Let the Weeds Grow January 25, 2013 at 11:39 am

    …..to feed the cows, sheep, goats, chickens, pigs, ducks, etc. etc.

    Who needs herbicides or GMO herbicide-tolerant crap (I mean “crop”) anyway?

    Rotational grazing of grasses, and broadleaf yummies, is what cows and other ruminants thrive on. We eat them and we thrive. The universe is kind. No need to make war with pests, weeds, or each other.

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  38. GM foods are wrong headed! It begins with market share and profits and ends in extravagance for some and death for others. While I DO agree with the remark that GOOD food should be reasonably priced for the average person and even the poor person, I think both sides are wrong headed. The bottom line profit issue exist on both sides, and until health is really the PURE goal, I can’t be fully devoted to either side. Take the new ratfish oil drops. Amazing stuff! To give this ONE item to my family would cost $50 every 10 days. It’s outrageous and unfair. I understand the cost of making this in small batches, but this is what needs to improve. If everyone needs, step out, mass produce it and make it happen at a reasonable price. Then you get the Nobel Peace Prize. IMHO. We need to acknowledge that nature (God) produces the best nutrition, NOT MAN,and there needs to be effort toward making this a WORLD WIDE way of life. No one is stepping out and we’re spending a lot of money lobbying. This is my beef! My raw milk shouldn’t cost $9/gallon, for example. At six gallons a week we spend $54 on just this one item for our weekly groceries. Is anyone working to improve these standards. If tons more raw milk were sold, I’m not sure the price would come down. And, it should!

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  39. The CEO said he agreed with food choice but remember Monsanto paid billions to defeat prop 37, which would give people a choice. As we all know, it’s not about choice, it’s about greed. They want to squash every little farmer, own every seed and have complete control of all food. Has nothing to do with safety.

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  40. it isn’t just people. The incidence of digestive problems, epilepsy, obesity and cancer in dogs and cats has also increased exponentially. Just read the ingredient list on a bag of dog food and you will understand. Sick dogs who are taken off commercial foods “magically” get well!!! Just like people. Good follow up reading is from DogtorJ.com He supports the elimination of the Big 4 from ours and our pets diets: wheat, corn, soy, and dairy. he calls it the GARD. Science diet = science death

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  41. The truly sad part is that many of them believe these lies!! In reality a truly organic crop when planted intentionally with the proper nutrients an companion plants will outgrow the chemical laden GMO crap every time. The problem and prices are because our *ahem* government feels the need to make it dang near impossible for these growers to be truly organic, and charges them out the wazoo for trying!! I hope you keep hitting nerves with these idiots so maybe one day some of them will open their eyes and see just how much damage they are doing to the poor people they claim to care about by only providing tumor causing poisonous food at a price low enough for them to afford. Sadly it has become poison or starve. (I’ll get off my soap box now..)

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  42. That kool-aid is some good stuff, ain’t it? Let’s keep on burning our food (for ethanol) while prices for food keep going up and is there a reason GMO foods are not served in Monsanto’s plant lunch rooms?

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  43. sarah, look in to the meetings.. according to the lady this is a nationwide push.. the states are given an option to opt out but they are listening to the advice of their national dairy board.. worth a look!!!

    -jason and lisa-

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  44. URGENT!!!! everyone else, look on the facebook page, you dont have to have facebook to view it.. raw milk is under attack right now.. it is going on right now in south carolina but looks to be a nation wide push…..

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  45. So proud of you Sarah! Love how you take off the gloves and let them have it. Maybe it will wake them up to the real moral disaster…instead of feeding the poor, we poison them and cause sickness & disease then destroy land in the process.

    I pray ignorant people get wisdom.

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  46. You know what Mr. President/CEO? My family is large. I have 6 children. Four boys, two girls. The boys eat like horses! We live on a tiny, one income paycheck. We are considered very low income. We eat only organic. We “poor people” made a choice to cut out expensive junk food and we ONLY EAT ORGANIC! And we can afford to do this. hmmmm. If we can do this…. ANYONE can!!! Like Sarah said… “Stop drinking the Kool-Aid”! This kind of Monsanto stunt is only making you into a foolish fool. And that is just sad.

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  47. Sarah, you ROCK! I am constantly sending people to your blog for excellent articles and incredibly helpful videos. Thanks for being a warrior for healthy and traditional foods! Love ya, sister!

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  48. Sarah, I have posted on my website http://www.damseeds.com the following rebuttle against your blog ‘The four steps required to keep monsanto out of your garden’ Please read it and respond – You owe it to your readers to print truthful informatiion.

    William A Dam – President of William Dam Seeds Ltd

    Here is part of the rebuttle – Read the full version on http://www.damseeds.com

    In the past years, we as a seed company and an industry have been quiet. Many bloggers and individuals on the internet have been spreading rumours and falsehoods about our industry and Monsanto. Today this changes.
    First of all: I assure our customers: We are not owned by Monsanto — we are a family business — four generations working currently. I personally am saddened that people would come to this conclusion despite what we note in our catalogue about our family values. Besides, I’m sure Monsanto would not want to purchase us — we work way too many hours to be profitable for a multi-national.
    I was raised in a time before Social Media — but by no means am I naive of the technology. But I was raised that when you attack a person’s reputation you better have your facts straight. You cannot slander others — this is just wrong and causes pain to others. I call on all bloggers, tweeters etc — check for facts — build each other up, don’t knock each other down — this is Bullying!
    On January 23, Sarah from “The Healthy Home Economist” wrote a blog published as “The Four Steps Required to Keep Monsanto OUT of your Garden”. The problem is she does not check her facts and she seems to back facts up from other bloggers.
    Here is what Sarah said:
    Surprise!
    In addition, Monsanto has quietly been gobbling up many of the organic seed companies

    This is my response:
    This is the worst lie of all! Sarah — you have to be ashamed of yourself for not getting facts. Where do you get this from? You are not a seed professional and do not know anything about our industry. Monsanto does not own any organic seed companies — Period!!!

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  50. Congratulations for being so brave. Being political helps to get promotions and all that at work, but has never done good in speaking the truth. Truth is hard to digest most of the times. I came from Mexico and it has been very hard to find food here; I mostly have to go to 8 different stores to get what I want (notice I live in El Paso Tx and good food culture is not precisely the high value here). My family had a small ranch in northern Mexico, we actually never used pesticides or anything (since they are expensive) and it is clear than you get less product than when you use pesticides, hormones, vitamins, etc. One thing I am always amazed is the size of the produce here; in my farm the products were considerable smaller (strawberries, plums, peaches,… tomatoes) but they had more flavor..(seems to me than USA makes a lot of water to come in the fruit and veggies, therefore no flavor). For experience I can tell you, it is very expensive going organic (expensive not in money, but in work); we (everybody, even 5 years old) would get very early to help to take care of the trees, etc) and most of the adults were in the fields until very late at night. It is hard. Unfortunately Mexico is losing their traditions and going into what we called “more advanced” kind of living. The “advanced” being more comfortable style (like doing tortillas with non-treated flour, buying processed food, eating at fast processed chains). It is really sad. At the end, it was the poor value than general people give to good nutrition the thing than sent to my family out of business; we were just to expensive in comparison with the produce that is coming from China. Eating well costs, however people prefer buying expensive clothing, cosmetics, shoes, etc. than spend money in good food. About Monsanto, it is the only seed you can find in Mexico now; at the beginning, most Mexican farmers were naturally distrustful of US seed produced (Old Mexicans do not trust since the war in 1821), but we give it a try not knowing this (this was around 1985-88) and my grandfather did not like it at all. The soil was different, final product was different, the flavor was different, the animals did not like it.. and at the end, we turned to our original supplier of seeds (which by the way went out of business). I really think people like you are educating other people and are keeping good food still alive. Thank you for that.

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  51. I can’t remember the name of the movie that had Charleton Heston in it, but I do remember “soilent green”. For some reason articles like this make me think of “soilent green”.

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  52. No surpirse that a CEO would offer that type of response. After all, it is the “company line” with which we continue to be bombarded in order to keep us dummies in step with their “plan”. Oh, that they would spend as much time teaching poor farmers in the world how to farm their own land (the old-fashioned way), no one would be starving.

    Thanks Sarah. It’s you and others like you who have stepped up and pointed out the obvious. GMOs are not safe – never have been; never will be. I would like to recommend an amazing book written in 1972 but very pertinent today,. “The Secret Life of Plants” by Peter Thompkins and Christopher Bird. I found it at Amazon, and if you’ve never had the opportunity, I urge everyone read it and learn.

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  53. So we feed this dangerous gm food to cows, which basically destroys the health of the cow and over time kills all the cows. These sick cows are feeding the humans and passing on their sick cells and of course what you eat becomes you from the basic cell structure on up, your immune system, thereby eventually making everyone that consumes it sick until over time all the humans die too? Compromised immune system, one really bad bug and it wipes everyone out. Yep sounds like they’re up to something or just totally ignorant.

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  54. http://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/faqs/faqinsertedfragmentofviralgeneingmplants.htm

    “…this is not an official EFSA output. It was authored by a former member of EFSA staff and the current Vice-Chair of the GMO Panel in an independent capacity. This paper has been known to EFSA’s GMO Panel from the outset; Members of the Panel’s Molecular Characterisation Working Group are acknowledged in the paper for the advice given to the authors as the research was being undertaken. In accordance with its Science Strategy, EFSA encourages its scientific staff to contribute to the scientific literature in their specific area of expertise.”

    “… the data published in the paper ‘Possible Consequences of the overlap between the CaMV 35S promoter regions in the plant transformation vectors used in the viral gene VI in transgenic plants’ do not represent a new discovery of a viral gene nor do they indicate safety concerns in previously evaluated GMOs.”

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  55. we need, as Americans, to let “the world” feed itself. usually those talking about doing so are out to make a profit. and we fall for it every time, because most Americans would love to end world hunger, we want to help. this is not the way to do it, even if we have no other way. it would be better to not “help” than to force gmos on people

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  56. I run a small farmer’s market business dealing in vegetable plants for home gardeners and will only buy seed from companies with the safe seed pledge or a guarantee that they have non-GMO seeds. It just isn’t worth the long term health risk to play with the genes. I’m afraid that our water supply will be contaminated by all the round-up chemicals that make farming with GMO crops convenient.
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  57. And I’m pretty sure I remember reading in my research that GMO and related methods of food production actually DECREASE yield and sustainability. (That ought to particularly be the case once Monsanto owns patents to all the food crops on the planet. ‘Cause, you know, once their seed contaminates your field or garden, all that crop is theirs, too.)

    What the heck happened to common sense and sound logic?
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  58. my question is if cotton is now a GMO ( I had read that Monsanto was selling it to India) is wearing cotton(GMO) going to effect the body ? . . . for women they say to wear cotton next to the body is healthier (underwear) . . . is there any reason to worry ? just asking

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  60. Monsanto has frightened me for a long time now, ever since I heard that they not only own the patents for genes of plants they manufacture, but they also own the patent of the gene that controls how fast a pig grows, so now even it a farmer produces a pig from natural selection that has this gene, monsanto will take them to court. This company makes billions from taking something that is a natural part of nature, & a natural way every living thing improves their genes pool, & calming it as their own, & they should NOT HAVE THE RIGHT to do that.
    The scariest thing is, if they have already started to patent animal genes, how long will it take before they patent a gene humans share. We share 36% genes with fruit flies, 7% with bacteria, 15% with mustard grass, 21% with round worm, 85% with zebra fish & 98% with chimpanzees to name a few, so how long will it be before every one will have to pay for a gene that is part of our body, or even worse in our children.

    As I said, they HAVE NO RIGHT TO OWN GENES, if they want to work with them, then as long as they don’t do any harm, that’s ok, but for anyone to think they are doing it out of the goodness of their heart, then you are easily fooled. If they want to help feed the world, then they shouldn’t be making a profit, they should only making enough to cover cost, but that’s not what monsanto is about.

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  61. YOU ROCK!!!! Thank you for lam-blasting that CEO and his mumbo jumbo. your so awesome lol and i love love love your recipes and website. Muah! xoxo

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  62. Thanks for passing this along. Much appreciated.

    Re: your exchange with sir biotech CEO — You really can’t make this stuff up…. Choice?! Come on. There is no choice in this dude’s world.

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  63. Do all Monsanto goons write at a fourth grade level, or just this one? GMO foods “are not bad”? Oh, I’m so glad he cleared that up in language I could understand.

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  64. I believe this CEO should read the study done at Iowa State University comparing the difference in yields by industry standards and the way farmers that care about the land and farm the old fashioned way

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    • Are you serious? Those who are playing God are certainly not proving with double blind, neutral scientific studies that all of their tampering is safe for us. They’re just using us as guinea pigs. And when evidence eventually *does* come out, it is invariably that, oops, it actually *wasn’t* safe in the first place.

      How ’bout those trying to do things OTHER than the way they were done for thousands of years with no ill effects have to prove the safety and efficacy of their methods before those methods are imposed on everyone without our knowledge or consent.
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      • Well, for one thing we’ve never had as many mouths to feed as we do now, and the population is only going to continue growing. The way things have been done for thousands of years isn’t going to cut it any more.

        Secondly the safety and efficacy of these new technologies are indeed proven to a reasonable degree of certainty before they are “imposed on everyone”. Same way our courts work. If a proper double blinded study proves something is safe it will take another proper double blinded study with expanded scope to prove it’s unsafe, or to expose side effects or counter indications or whatever.

        This is how science works. It worked for tobacco, Vioxx, ephedra and countless other things, and it will continue to work that way.

        People like Seralini spread disinformation with shady research and the ignorant see things like “virus” in the works and spread paranoia, and this all gets taken as truth and people start seeing conspiracies everywhere. Find some good evidence and put your trust in that, don’t just believe everything you hear because it sounds good.

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  67. Have you had your head in the sand? #1, big businesses like Monsanto are the ones with the big bucks to fund the studies, so they can skew any research that is done any way they see fit. #2, if you truly believe things are thoroughly tested for safety before being released to the public, I have some beachfront property to sell you in the Arizona desert. MONEY talks.

    (And, actually, the way we were growing things for thousands of years was working just fine. GMO and related practices have actually been destroying the sustainability of agriculture throughout the world. Which, again, comes back to money. That’s exactly what big Agribusiness wants – for everybody, everywhere to be dependent on them to provide new seed – in exchange for money – every single planting season.)
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    • Do you honestly believe Monsanto has bucks so big that they’ve bought off every one of the third party researchers who have come out with studies time and again showing the safety of GM crops, as well as the journals and review systems studying the studies for their efficacy and methodology? Maybe you also believe they’ve been funding shoddy research that gets torn apart in peer review to further bolster their claims by disassociation? Prove it then.

      You may think skeptics of the anti-GM movement have their heads in the sand but I say you’ve got your head in the clouds. Provide solid evidence for your claims or don’t make them at all.

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    • I think we are mixing idealism and reality. It is easy to talk about idealism but very difficult to live in reality. The reality of large agriculture is brought on by capitalism, increasing shortage of farm workers, and the want of cheap products in North America. We are all to blame for this, not just one company. A thousand years ago people died of diseases, that are cured today, but today we have new diseases that will be cured by tomorrows science. Until the new world comes this will be the way it will be.
      Quote of the day – Every Minute of Anger is 60 seconds of lost Happiness.

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  70. Well, I guess you told him! LOL! I love it when the truth prevails! Thank you for sharing the truth about the horrors of GM food. We all have to fight this evil together.

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  71. Hi Sarah -
    The information that you are exposing to people is well founded – simplified, but grounded in proven results. Two years ago, before the first crops of GM alfalfa and sugar beets were planted (after pitifully brief consultation to Barack Obama – whose sole decision deferred the approval or went ahead with the planned distribution of seed stock by Monsanto) I contacted Prof. Emeritus Don Huber of Purdue University concerning his chilling discovery of a new, hybrid organism (basically half virus and half fungus) which thrives in the toxic environment created by the effects of Roundup (glysophate), which causes a host of diseases and infertility in the livestock which are fed on the crops. What glysophate essentially does, on a persistent basis, (meaning it does NOT bio-degrade), is interrupt the ability of non-resistant plants (ie: non-GM crops which do not have a genetic code introduced artificially, to combat the effects of glysophate on a molecular level) to absorb soil nutrients and minerals on a microscopic scale – glysophate is essentially a re-uptake inhibitor which blocks the receptors in the very finest roots of plants, which have evolved to metabolize these nutrients into the plant organism – thus, literally starving the targeted plants to death. Glysophate remains latent in the soil and water, slowly leaching further into the earth, and eventually, into the aquifers which entrap naturally filtered precipitation which drains into the ground. These aquifers are the source of the majority of irrigation water, and potable water which all living things require to survive. As it stands, there is nowhere on this planet which has not been tainted by glysophate, other than glacial ice. The atmosphere, soil and water are accumulating more and more of it every year, and it has been proven dangerous to life. I lobbied the Canadian and US governments to hesitate on the approval of the planting of GM alfalfa – an aggressively self-seeding perennial plant – until proper scientific study could be performed on the side effects of this new kind of ‘toxic micro-climate’ produced by the incessant use of glysophate and necessarily-increasing amounts of fertilizers needed to keep the crops alive (due to the literally sterile condition of the soil). Our pleas and petitions were ignored, and the alfalfa went to field. It is now absolutely and terrifyingly impossible to reverse the spread of the GMO alfalfa throughout North America, and eventually, the entire planet. Alfalfa is a grass…. They have accomplished the unthinkable at Monsanto – they have forever alterered the DNA of the biosphere of the planet, without having the faintest idea of what the repercussions will be for creating plants which naturally excrete lethal and persistent poisons into the environment, and the clinical trial is being done on YOU, your CHILDREN, and everything else that is alive. It is genocide, folks- plain and simple; and it is directly caused by the evil greed of a handful of immoral capitalist oligarchs. Joseph Stalin would be proud. We, personally, will probably only witness the initial symptoms of the burgeoning disease in our lifetimes – but after two or three generations, the ill-effects of this massive irresponsibility could be incalculable.

    The underlying reason for Monsanto to forcibly push Roundup Ready crops on the world so aggressively and unscrupulously, was to create a permanent demand for their precious herbicide, Roundup. Monsanto’s patent for the formula expired in September, 2000 – opening the glysophate production market up, to the corporation’s Agri-business competitors; Dow Chemical, Syngenta, BASF and Cargill (to name the four majors). By saturating the monoculture-driven, factory-farming system with RR-GM seeds, and legally binding the farmers to continue to buy new stocks of seed every year from Monsanto by the sheer nature of the tainted plants that grow on their dead land, it was neatly and diabolically sewn up. Monsanto has created the majority of it’s genetically modified cash crops, in order to sell increasing amounts of PESTICIDES. Monsanto is not in the food business – it is, in fact, in the POISON business – and always has been. Prior to the ‘discovery’ that dioxin was a persistent, lethal, and genetically toxic pollutant (“gee, I thought it was pretty harmless – didn’t you, Jim-Bob?”) – PCB’s were Montanto’s most profitable product (used as a coolant and insulating barrier in electrical transformers), since DDT (Monsanto’s first big cash cow) was banned in the USA in 1972 by the EPA, as a general-use pesticide, and eventually throughout the rest of the developed world by 1984; (it was still manufactured and sold by Monsanto in the hundreds of tons to impoverished nations, well into 1987) – due to it’s out-of-control and lethal properties, exposed in the book Silent Spring, by environmentalist Rachel Carson.(a thesis on persistent inter-generational toxicity of persistent pesticides as a cause for catastrophic declines in the populations of birds and other wildlife – published in 1962). Monsanto sued the Environmental Protection Agency for banning DDT – and lost. There has been a long-standing impasse between the EPA and Monsanto, in regards to the chemical manufacturer’s consistently irresponsible handling of the by-products of it’s industry – the most toxic man-made substances known to humanity. The disposal methods they employed, were basically of the ‘out of sight, out of mind’ variety (dump and bury), and were/are the cause of a few of the planets most devastating industrial waste leaks… Monsanto has always been an underhanded and dishonest player – illegally dumping millions of gallons of the most lethal waste chemicals in the world, all over the world. They employ an army of lawyers and lobbyists to protect their corporate interests (as well as a private militia), and have created a culture of conspiracy in the regulating bodies like the FDA, EPA and Department of Agriculture – which exist to oversee and police the corporation’s activities – by populating their ranks with scientists and bureauocrats whose educations, schools, laboratories and pensions, are funded by the very corporation they are meant to keep in check and balance – and penalize for infractions (would you slap a hefty fine on your boss for keeping his business profitable, and expect to have a job the next day?) Every time there is a regime change in the Government, those experts who no longer have taxpayer-funded jobs, are welcomed among the ranks of the faithful at Monsanto; and handsomely paid, in a revolving door manner. It is a sham, a lie, a cheat, and one of the most disgusting, wilfully planned and orchestrated – long-term abuses ever perpetrated on their unwitting victims – the population of the world. Read a little bit about the history of Monsanto, and develop your own opinions about how benevolent and beneficial that filthy, lying order is… Like I’ve said before, and I will say again – Monsanto must be tried for crimes against humanity at an international tribunal, dismantled completely and dissolved forever; and it’s entire vast wealth dispersed among it’s most worthy victims as reparation for the irreparable damage inflicted upon their lands and their people. Amen.

    Go ahead. Argue with me. I dare you.

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  73. Wow, Sarah…..your article about home gardening SANS Monsanto is just wildly pleasing, and I joined your email list faster than I could type my address. Pleasing too, are the many comments above mine. Let’s hope THIS is a virus that goes crazy and is one that can wipe out the diabolical intentions of the world’s toxic polluters and fascist corporations. One wonders initially how humans could be this nihilistic and ‘bad’. Indeed, but then we vow not to get bogged down in this depressing thought, but to move forward with speed and agility towards the goal: freedom from authoritarianism, freedom to practice peaceful means of living, freedom to pursue the avenues in which these diabolical forces are SHUT DOWN.
    Thank you for the article, and especially for that brief, humorous and thoroughly cogent response to the CEO….
    STOP DRINKING THE KOOL-AID MY FRIEND!!!

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  74. You want to save the poor? Give them land, give them seed (organic non gmo) and let them thrive on their own hard work. Don’t feed us this BS of feeding the world, it’s political not humanitarian.

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  80. The base truth is that many many cultures won’t eat the seeds produced by Monsanto and others. They don’t know what to DO with them!!!! Indigenous “poor” cultures have their own foodways and don’t want foreign seeds as food!
    I have a friend who works with a very large world food organization and he sees this all the time.

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  81. I really do not buy the “feed the poor” line. I live in an impoverish area of WI. My family is well below the poverty line and takes advantage of programs that the government provides for families like ours. I use my food stamps to purchase organic fruit and veggies, pasture-raised/ grass-fed meats, and other whole untainted foods. I grow my own veggies during the summer months and readily take advantage of the farmers markets. I am not going to poison my family simply because we are poor. People don’t need cheaper, easier food – they need to be educated on what real food looks like and how to responsibly feeds themselves and their families. If real foods became the mainstream, they would become more affordable.

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  82. Starving children? Monsanto doesn’t give a flying fig about starving children. But they certainly don’t mind poisoning them.

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    • Wait, what do you mean by disingenuous?

      It’s true that we need to look at the science for sure. I’m not 100% convinced that GMO would be bad under all circumstances and all variants. But I get pretty pissed off with the non transparency and controversy of it all. I mean, wtf. If you have done studies on rats that lasted more than 3, 12, 18 months, then report them. Shine the light and let’s take a look. Let’s track the data long term on this (since we’re conducting an experiment without informed consent anyway).

      Also worth noting — at least with Bt, I wish I could site the link, but there is definitely a difference in the metabolism and effect of Bt protein from the soil (naturally occuring) than when created in the corn itself. This shouldn’t be surprising, as we can’t currently place the gene precisely to my knowledge, which is why we use viruses as vectors. (If I’m off here, please let me know.)

      Things are never black and white — wish I had a feeling that I could trust scientists and the gov to look out for our best interest in areas that are so inordinately complex and difficult to study.

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      • ” If you have done studies on rats that lasted more than 3, 12, 18 months, then report them.”

        They have been done, and reported:
        http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonentine/2012/09/30/does-the-seralini-corn-study-fiasco-mark-a-turning-point-in-the-debate-over-gm-food/

        “Seralini’s research is anomalous. Previous peer-reviewed rat feeding studies using the same products (NK603 and Roundup) have not found any negative food safety impacts. The Japanese Department of Environmental Health and Toxicology released a 52-week feeding study of GM soybeans in 2007, finding “no apparent adverse effect in rats.” Earlier this year, a team of scientists at the University of Nottingham School of Biosciences released a review of 12 long-term studies (up to two years) and 12 multi-generational studies (up to 5 generations) of GM foods, concluding there is no evidence of health hazards.”

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        • those are two. you are right. have you read them? i couldn’t actually get the studies to see what was measured beyond organ weights, serum values of some things, etc. you only get answers to the question you ask. not saying they are flawed, but those are the questions i would ask. there ARE studies that indicate potential harm, increased inflammation, intestinal permeability, etc. What would be the rational response would be to understand why the studies are different, than to say it’s unequivocally safe.

          my point is not so much that NO studies have been done, but by and large most studies are done by the companies themselves, who tend to hold on to their data, and more often than not they are NOT multigenerational. http://maurin.bnk.free.fr/Domingo%20et%20al.,%202011.pdf

          the entire topic could use a dose of shut the f up and be real. if it’s safe, it will come out. if it’s not it will come out. no sense in hiding it. the seralini affair is a great example of the vitriolic behavior that is really uncalled for. he used the same rat strain monsanto did in their studies. could his sample size have been bigger, yes. is is discountable on that alone, no. it says more research should be done. and it needs to be standardized across groups, you have some context to put it in.

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          • Actually those are 24. Two meta-analyses of 12 studies each.

            RE: Seralini, it wasn’t just sample size, though that is extremely important. The way he ran the study with regards to feeding and animal care came into question also, especially with a strain of rat prone to tumors already. Without a controlled diet they’ll get sick regardless. His interpretation of the stats was dubious also.

            The whole point of scientific studies is to neutralize as many variables as possible and come up with results that can be replicated. This recent study with the pigs (http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2013/06/study-says-gmo-feed-may-harm-pigs/#.UcqcCtzV9VW) didn’t control the varieties of the actual feedstock, just whether it was GM or non-GM. Again there are questions about their statistical conclusions and their care of the pigs during the study. I’m sensing a pattern.

            There’s a reason scientists nitpick over these seemingly minor details in peer review and it’s not cognitive biases or vitriol. These studies need to be as objective as possible and when there’s all these poor practices weighing them down what should we really take from them? Especially when there are plenty of well reviewed studies coming to the opposite conclusion? Nothing if you ask me.

          • couldn’t agree more with the standardization and the need to be peer reviewed. you are also correct the variables on the food in the pig study on some things. you should also note, though, that all of the studies you mentioned are peer reviewed. peer review doesn’t mean much, anymore, unfortunatrely. you can see this in the gmo stuff and in many other places. which is a huge problem.,

            have you read each and every study that i linked to in the meta analysis? you’re right to question, as I do myself. but please don’t suggest that this thing is black and white and a closed book. and please don’t suggest that just because some gmo may be safe, that they all are. also don’t assume that because this is hybridization taken to the extreme that it is natural. we have seen a huge uptike in gluten intolerance and celiac in the past 30-50 years, which correlates with alteration of wheat (gmo and breeding) to increase the gluten content.

            you notice a trend — well, i notice a trend when monsanto spits out stuff like gmo being essential to feed the world, and lobbying to make themselves immune from liability. those types of responses are enough to make me question what the real story is. does that shut the book on it, no. but it’s a red flag.

            not trying to start a flame war here. i guess the main point i have is that this is a systems biology issue, among others, with a $hit ton of variables to be looked at, and i don’t think it’s been looked at from that lens. oh yeah, and kill the media, on both sides.

          • BTW — have you actually read the 24 studies cited in that article, or the actual pig study? Or are you basing conclusions off of other people’s analysis? How many of the studies have you actually read and put skull sweat into?

            I have to admit that I haven’t read into many of them, but curious if you have.

          • so, wait, in the pig study, are you suggesting that they should have been pastured vs cargill style? that might have been better to fully isolate, but it’s not really indicative of the stress that commerical pork is up against. (it does say though that if 60% of that style of pig end up with pneumonia due to the conditions, then i’ll take my pastured pork any day of the week). at any rate, you can’t point out things about animal husbandry unless you have a reason. here, the rates of pneumonia and other stuff is frankly on par with commercial pork. which is sad. but it’s true.

            as for seralini, sample size was actually larger than monsanto uses, and it’s pretty tough to bitch about not having the data to look at the statistical methods, but when monsanto won’t do the same, you have the pot calling the kettle black. not to mention, you can’t cite animal cruelty issues here without a basis. it’s frankly made up if you don’t have a good reason, other than the fact of the results being something other than you want them to be.

            it’s also worth noting, now that I have gone through your studies and several meta reviews, that while there have been a lot of 90 day studies on corn, there have been close to zero long term (seralini being one) . another exception may be the meta review you cited for which i can’t find the article for free. it’s possible there is something on corn over 90 days in there, but i doubt it. none existed as of 2011.

            in answer to me earlier question, I’m guessing you’ve just cited headlines, as opposed to trying to determine for yourself.

            as for me, there are enough “trends” that tell me to stay away — we do not need gmo to feed the world. gmo is predominately corn and soy. last i checked, there are huge markets for corn and soy derived products — yes, there must be so much of a shortage of corn and soy that companies have found ways to turn them into non-food, food additive, and anciallary revenue streams. most gmo corn and soy was not designed to be nutritionally safe, but to tolerate increasingly larger amounts of roundup and other pesticides. do NOT try to explain that round up is safe, either for the environment, or your health. since gmo for the time being tends to mean increased pesticides, you can’t count me out.

          • No I haven’t tried to analyse those studies because I’m not a scientist. There’s a reason we look to “peer review” and to other scientists replicating the data and not to some laymen to make a consensus on what the studies say.

            I’m simply not qualified to make any judgement on the validity of those studies so I see what other experts in the field say about them instead, and those experts say they are solid and the evidence adds up to a conclusion that GM crops are safe for consumption. What else is there?

          • I probably shoudl let this go — but both the pork and seralini studies you are critical of were peer reviewed. one of seralini’s studies was in fact an attempt to replicate Monsanto’s own studies saying they were safe. (Monsanto’s internal studies for regulatory purposes is NOT peer reviewed, by the way, at least not in the sense that it would be publishable.)

            it CAN get complicated, but you just have to apply critical thinking skills and see where things don’t add up. if the best that critics (and some of them laymen, not scientists) can come up with is sample size (which was larger than Monsanto’s) and animal treatment (may be an issue, may not be, but it’s grasping at straws to say it was an issue without evidence) then I think it warrants further inquiry and attempt to replicate. which, inadvertently, so do the French.

            i get that you feel underquaified, but it just isn’t that hard. some will be over our heads for sure, but sometimes you can sense the bs. for instance, there was a study a while back implicated eggs as worse than cigarettes for heart disease, because of, gasp, cholesterol. it turns out that the data in the study showed that those who ate the most eggs according to their surveys had the lowest cholesterol. 75% of the american heart association and the media to boot was all over this peer reviewed study.

            we simply leave stuff to headlines and supposed experts, especially those with an institutional and / or financial bias.

          • You forgot skewing of statistics, which is another big issue for both studies, and one where I am fundamentally lost with regards to knowledge. These kinds of things can slip through when unqualified individuals try to do something like review a scientific study and it’s why I refuse to do so when there are plenty of qualified individuals doing it already. There is no magic “believe in yourself and you can achieve anything” unless it involves trusting in myself to build a foundation of statistical interpretation and animal husbandry and then spend a few years building experience in those fields. Maybe some day.

            Regarding industrial biases, Seralini’s research was privately funded by anti-GM orgs while there are a plethora of studies that are publicly funded both in Europe and America that have come to opposite conclusions. Who has the bias?

  83. Great rebuttal! Maybe it would have also been beneficial to show how the people living on earth could live without GMO’s and not starve.

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  84. Great article, Sarah. I am in the process of writing my senator my view of GM foods. I am going to include the info here and try to get him to come around.

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  86. I am a 55 year old registered nurse. Four years ago I was diagnosed with gastroparesis. The etiology of this disorder in my case is unknown. I was dumbfounded by this diagnosis and it’s consequences. I was a perfectly healthy person who ate a healthy diet. Why has my stomach become paralyzed? I believe that it is because of the GMOs in my food. I do not take this lightly and will not take this sitting down. I am furious about this Montsano. Where are you now. I am not the only person on earth who this has happened to. I have always been proactive when it came to my health. Little did I know that I was being slowly poisoned by your company. My stomach has stopped working efficiently Montsano. So your GM plants are safe? I don’t believe it and will have to live the rest of my life with this painful condition that there is no cure for.Your experiment on me is over. I am going organic.

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  87. Monsanto uses the cspB gene from bacillus subtilis. Bacillus subtilis is a soil based organism and a beneficial probiotic which is included in a few over the counter products, Primal Defense, Bio-Kult and a few others. The isolated gene was researched and deemed non-pathogenic. I believe bacillus subtilis to be beneficial, but I’m not familiar with isolating gene components, so I can’t speak to it’s usefulness or whether there is a difference.

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  88. This a bit off topic, but a wide variety of microorganisms can be found in normal soil. These microorganism (bacteria) can cause disease in severely immunocompromised individuals, just as probiotics sold over the counter can also do likewise in immunocompromised individuals. If this be the case, I am to assume that normal soil based vegetables ( excluding Monsanto) are safe for immunocompromised individuals?

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  90. My pediatrician told me to make sure that my son who has several food allergies, does not eat any GMO’s. That is coming from a Doctor who has been around for a long time…I take those words of wisdom to heart! Thank you for sharing on this topic.

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  93. It’s astounding how the MYTH of Monsanto saving people with GM Crops even is believed by intelligent people.

    Here’s the reality GM Crops are engineered to be STERILE which means that after one season, they DIE and you have to BUY new seeds to feed your nation again the next year.

    This will Create MORE starvation in poor nations, who won’t be able to replace what little ability they have now to grow food, when they replace all their crops with those that require them to buy seeds from Monsanto FOREVER.

    The worst plan ever – and I can’t believe that anyone falls for this.

    I have a family friend is wealthy and has invested in Monsanto. He truly believes in his heart that they are helping the world. He had no idea, until I told him, that their seeds are sterile. He didn’t do his homework.

    STOP the plant to make the world dependent on a corporation for our food.

    Control the food, and you control the people. That’s Monsanto’s unspoken mantra.

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