For Clued-in Moms, Fever is a Friend

by Joette Calabrese, HMC, CCH, RSHom(Na) April 3, 2013

babyPut down that Tylenol.

Hang up the phone to the pediatrician’s office.

Don’t touch the analgesics.

You can do this on your own! Fever is not a bad word. It is your friend.

In fact, it’s the mechanism that the body has intuitively designed to cook off illnesses such as the flu, colds, ear infections and the like. And it serves an important purpose because it is the body’s way of curing the illness.

Did you hear me? Fever is the body’s way to rid us of illness.

Then why eradicate the cure by administering a synthetic drug, such as Tylenol, aspirin and the like?

Certainly, we don’t want our child to suffer needlessly, but by employing meds to suppress a fever, we’re chemically forcing the body to stop treating itself with its natural promise of resolution.

What Some (Good) Doctors Say

In the words of my all-time favorite pediatric hero, Dr. Robert Mendelsohn, in his book, How to Raise a Healthy Child in Spite of Your Doctor, “There is a common misconception that the height of body temperature is an indication of the severity of an illness…Research has shown that more than half of all parents consider a fever high at levels between 100-102. And almost all believe it is high if it reaches 103 degrees. These parents are also convinced that the height of a fever indicates how sick their child is. This emphatically is not the case. Knowing the level of your child’s fever will tell you nothing of how sick he is or if the fever is produced by a viral or bacterial infection. There’s nothing to be gained by measuring its climb and by doing so will only magnify your fears and upset the child. Even a temperate of 105 need not be a cause of concern.”

Even Dr. Sears is quoted on his site regarding normal childhood illnesses as saying, “Fevers are not serious. Many parents have a misconception that fevers are a bad thing and a sign that there is some serious underlying illness. This simply is not true. Fever is a normal and healthy response of the body to an illness. The body’s immune system releases chemicals that raise the body temperature. This is part of the normal infection-fighting process.”

Dr. Tomas Cowan MD, presenter at the Weston A. Price conference two years ago, made it clear that fever may be instrumental in warding off the potential of cancer in the future. He elaborated that every case in which the child is allowed to present a nice high fever, it potentially inadvertently protects from cancer later in life.

I know, I know. It can be difficult to resist the temptation to give children “a little something for that fever”. After all, we certainly don’t want them to suffer the pain of an ear infection or a sore throat. But, if we understand that the medications of commerce will often cause further affliction in the future, the choice is easier.

Ok, So How Do I Do This?

When a fever appears to be debilitating, what’s a parent to do? I reach for one of my lovely homeopathic cell salts…Ferr phos 6x. It’s the remedy that aids during any inflammation and may help the child get over the illness in shorter time and step into full bloom again with fewer accompanying symptoms.

Four pills is a dose, regardless of the age of the child, and it can be offered directly into the mouth every 4 hours for as long as the little one is sick.

Once the worst is over, then Ferr phos 6x offered in combination with Calc phos 6x is a great way to ensure convalescence. This combo is what I call the “finishing touch” to a good productive fever. The way I have used it for my feverish children is as follows: 1PM is time for Ferr phos, 3PM Calc phos, 5PM back to Ferr phos, and so on.

My favorite company for homeopathic cell salts is Hyland’s, which can be found at most health food stores, some with-it pharmacies and on-line.

When used correctly, homeopathic cell salts are not only inexpensive but nontoxic. That means no side effects.

Can you think of any conventional meds like this?

Yeah, me neither.

But That’s Not All

But these little cell salts don’t just stop at fevers. Ferr phos 6x is a premier remedy for anemia and frequent nose bleeds. I’ve used Calc phos 6x for my children’s dental issues such as teeth that were growing in crooked and premature cavities, growing pains, nervousness, insomnia and even fusing of broken bones. (Actually, that was for my father.) My time-tested tips and tricks as a homeopath have allowed me complete freedom from conventional pediatric dependency.

Take Away

In a world that encourages moms to depend on big pharma and its advocates and to feed our families on the fly, homeopathy, instead, celebrates the home, the cuddle of children and just the right dose of information.

But don’t stop here. There are 12 Homeopathic Cell Salts that you can learn to employ to empower your healing ability — low potency, very easy to learn, inexpensive to own, efficacious and safe.

Ferr phos 6x and Calc phos 6x offer rational medicine that empowers mothers and has done so for more than 150 years.

Long-established traditions. Informed parenting. Two little homeopathic cell salts. How easy.


Joette CalabreseJoette Calabrese, HMC, CCH, RSHom(Na) has a passion for teaching moms. Why? Because she was successful in raising her now-adult children without ever resorting to a drug. Her methods are simple: Clean living, nutrient-dense foods, staying away from the pediatrician’s office and knowing…really knowing…homeopathy. And one of her favorite homeopathic methods is to employ cell salts, as they are easy to master.

You may recognize Joette’s name from her regular speaking presentations at the Annual WAPF Conferences and her column in Wise Traditions, The Homeopathy Journal. To learn more of her tips and tricks to keep your family’s health decisions where they belong (in your hands) go to my web site -membership site.

Other sources:

Why Fevers are Fabulous: How to Manage Without Meds

 

Comments (167)

  1. I’m so sorry that you and your baby had to go through that. However, nothing in my article mentions ignoring or not investigating illness, particularly when it is long lasting.

    My point is to leave the fever alone and allow it to do its curative work. And that when a fever is suppressed, it may result in more serious illness.

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  2. Excuse me but my first baby almost died from a massive infection that required immediate hospitalization for weeks. Only sign? Fever. If it had been ignored he would be dead. You ALWAYS investigate a fever that goes on too long or with baby under six months.

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    • Brain damage is not caused by short term febrile seizures. Unless the child has epilepsy or another neurological disorder, febrile seizures generally last minutes and they have little to nothing to do with the height of the fever. Instead, they represent the velocity of the increase of temperature. Once the body adjusts to the new temperature, the seizures stop. by the time most parents get the child to the ER, the the body has adjusted to the temperature and they’re directed to simply take the baby home.

      If however, you can not be convinced of this after further reading, then its as simple as using the homeopathic remedies I discuss above.

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  3. Febrile seizures are a special situation in comparison to a normal fever in the average child. But febrile seizures are usually something the child will out grow and then you can begin letting the fever go at that point. My daughter has these seizures and we do treat her at a certain temperature. Hopefully they will subside in the next year or so. It’s hard to make the right choices as a parent but God gives us a wonderful maternal instinct that guides us to make the best choices for our children.

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  4. Ruth Morgan via Facebook April 7, 2014 at 1:48 pm

    Learned this years ago, before having children, by how my own body responded. Sweat out a fever, and feel fine the next day. Also, children’s bodies can withstand higher fevers than adults, so other than stripping them, I did nothing for feaver under 104 degrees. I also remember my mom saying way back in the stone age that it isn’t uncommon for a child to run a fever of 104. God gave us fevers for a very good reason, to burn up the germs!!!!!

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  5. Ahh my 2month old Dr. Says outright her goal is to get my children vaccinated, scares me by telling me if my 2mo has a fever of 100.4 (not 104) to take to e.r becausesshe isn’t vaccinated it could be something bad, should I still do this? My insurance basically only covers doctors like this unfortunately.

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  6. I wonder if it’s the opposite with febrile seizures. Could it be that the seizure or nervous system issue that is causing the seizure is what is actually causing the fever, not the other way around. The body could be showing a symptom of a fever because it is trying to fight the seizure. hmmmm… I wonder??

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    • Most febrile seizures (in normal circumstances) are simply an indication of the speed with which the fever climbs; not the height of the fever. Suppressing the fever whether with or without seizures is in my estimation, tinkering with what is intended to help finish the job.

      Read the book I recommended by Dr. Robert Mendelsohn or consider taking one of my courses. it goes into this deeper.

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  7. I’m not really sure how to even process this post. If the goal is to educate moms on why a fever is not a bad thing, you immediately make them defensive by saying they are not “clued in”. A defensive mom reading this post is not going to gather information with an open mind seeing as she’s already been insulted because she gives her child Tylenol. (Probably because she thought that was best.) I am all about being a well informed parent but I tend to steer away from posts that insult others lack of education right off the bat.

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    • The last thing I intend to do is disparage anyone and it surprised me that you thought that was my intent. My passion is to pass on homeopathy information so as to empower mothers.

      Having said this, the information I share is indeed about the lack of information that many moms have and here is my solution.

      I hope your interpretation doesn’t keep you from using the information I offer.

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  8. I know this applies to viruses in particular, but when a virus invades a healthy cell it controls all the functions (homeostasis for those who remember biology) and reproduces. Your body being brilliantly made, will start a fever. If a cells temperature increases then it is not infected with a virus , but if it is normal temperature , the body assumes its infected and then white blood cells go to work. It works faster when body can identify what is what.

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  9. Nancy Gardner via Facebook April 7, 2014 at 12:37 pm

    I think febrile seizure is the exception to the rule. Fevers are the bodies way of fighting something… If you stop it with Tylenol, does it take longer for the child to recover? I would think the infection would need antibiotics after that… I know when my son had a cold, the dr told me to give him Tylenol if he got a fever… Why do drs spread misinformation???

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    • Because they believe that mothers want something…anything so they offer it. Tylenol doesn’t cure; it holds back the fever which is the curative aspect of the illness.

      Febrile seizures are simply a response to the speed with which the fever heightens.

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  10. Tonya Coutts via Facebook April 7, 2014 at 12:10 pm

    While I generally agree with this, it’s really hard to not reach for that Tylenol with you know that your little one will have a febrile seizure if their temp gets to high. For my older son, I let him ride out the fever, but my younger has had several seizures from high fevers. What do you do then?

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    • In a child who doesn’t have neurological illness, such as epilepsy, febrile seizures are considered by pediatricians to not be unsafe. I urge you to read the links I include in my article above and consider learning about the remedies I discussed.

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  18. it doesn’t sound to me like your doctor friend’s advice was to drug a seizure down. his advice instead was to seek medical information, so as to check for certain infections if the seizing lasts for more than 5 minutes. in fact that’s about the length of time most febrile seizures abort, which is why he used that as his benchmark. most medical sources, including ER’s as well as pediatricians in the US will recommend that you not treat a normal febrile seizure. by the time you figure out what to do, they’re usually over anyway.
    we rarely want to cool down a fever, only keep the child hydrated.

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  19. it doesn’t sound to me like your doctor friend’s advice was to drug a seizure down. his advice instead was to seek medical information, so as to check for certain infections if the seizing lasts for more than 5 minutes. in fact that’s about the length of time most febrile seizures abort, which is why he used that as his benchmark. most medical sources, including ER’s as well as pediatricians in the US will recommend that you not treat a normal feeble seizure. by the time you figure out what to do, they’re usually over anyway.
    we rarely want to cool down a fever, only keep the child hydrated.

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  20. Fever is our friend and i have yet to find a source that shows that seizures are a concern during fever, so i agree with the ER doctors. as mothers, its critical to read up on subjects that frighten us, otherwise our angst will drive us to the medicine cabinet for drugs. Read Dr. Robert Mendelsohn’s book ‘How to Raise a Healthy Child in Spite of Your Doctor” (only $1 on Amazon)or consider listening to my CD’s (found on my site under Products). Learn how to use homeopathy and the myriad of common sense information that this entails and you’ll likely still hate witnessing febrile seizures ( they are indeed awful to see) but will gain confidence that they only indicate the rapidity with which the fever is climbing, not the height nor seriousness.

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    • When our daughter went into a seizure, my husband immediately phoned (i have no clue how he was so calm) a friend DR from Russia who was visiting our city in WA. He is a smart man and a REAL dr, not just a guy who went through medical school. Anyway, he said that if a child is continuing in seizure for 5 min, then to call ambulance immediately. Our daughter was, so we called 911. Our friend Dr says, that if the child is long enough in a seizure (which is like 10 min) brain damage will most likely occur. He said not to risk anything with seizures and always check for infection. Anyway, I personally think its best to avoid seizures. That time my daughter had her seizure I should not have put on a sweater on her before putting her in carseat to go home from mom house. I should have given her a tiny dose of medicine to keep fever at bay and keep her cool. Lesson learned ;(

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  21. What about when children are prone to febrile seizures? My nearly 1 year old daughter just had her first fever which I tried to treat naturally but had a febrile seizure. We called an ambulance and the ER told us “it’s normal and nothing to worry about, nothing you can do to prevent, it’s harmless,” blah blah blah. Told to alternate Tylenol and Motrin every 3 hours which I hate, but am too scared not to do after seeing my daughter in a fit.

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  23. Ok, siezures are crazy scary to see when your daughter has it. Im currently comming from the ER because my toddler went into a seizure from 102 fever. I never want to see it again. God forbid.

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  24. you’re not immune to it. keep trying. but if you don’t what to use homeopathy, the best thing to do for a fever in childhood illness is to do nothing, except keep them hydrated….other than read the references i offered especially dr. robert mendelsohn’s book.

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  25. I was right with you up to the homeopathy part. I’ve never had any discernible “luck” with homeopathic remedies. The more I try them, the more I want my money back for them. Any other suggestions besides homeopathy? Maybe, homeopathy is something placebo related and I’d have to believe in it more for it to work. LOL. Sorry to be a Debbie Downer. I just can’t waste any more of my family budget on something that has never helped us.

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    • no feathers ruffled here! but i do want to set the record straight that homeopathy is a complex medical paradigm. In my books and CD’s, I try my best to distill the remedy choice process down to the simplest formulas for every day use, especially for moms. if you’ve not had good luck, its not that the remedy didn’t work. it was simply the wrong remedy. remedies always work, but only if they are well chosen. and this takes attention to details and a bit of understanding of homeopathic principles to make a good selection. also, i might add, that many people hope to be able to treat chronic illness themselves. this simply cannot be done without years of specific training . i do hope that you’ll not give up on exploring homeopathy. i urge you to own a few good books on the subject and keep trying. all you need is one good cure in your family and you’ll be a devotee for life. i promise!
      i might also add that the comment below yours about quackery was in fact in response to another comment somewhere else on the blog and got out of sync.

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  26. I am totally new to cell salts and have fallen in love with the idea and use of them! I love that I am putting something natural into my body! Thank you for posting this. On the other hand… I am wanting to get pregnant. I am curious if I need to be taking anything outside of the 6 cells salts you tell us about for folic acid? It seems as if it is covered with in them, but I can’t quite figure out. Please help me out and direct me to what I should be taking to make sure I am getting what both the baby and I need.

    THANK YOU!!!!

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  27. What a timely article! Only a month ago, my 5-month-old was under the weather, and suddenly became extremely hot – 105 degrees! We reached for the Ferr. Phos 6x and within an hour his temperature had dropped to 103. For added encouragement, we re-read Sarah’s post about letting fevers work (I believe it was in an article where she referred to her dad’s treatment of Strep throat). We made it though and our son is healthier than ever now.

    People who say homeopathy is only effective via “placebo effect” haven’t taken the time to observe it work on children. I have. We have all 12 salts in our house plus a “travel” bag with our most often used types. I also highly recommend Diarrex, by Hyland’s.

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  28. A few weeks ago, I began following Joette on her site. Thrilled to see her here as well and looking forward to the next two posts. Thank you for the download. I actually didn’t see the purple box as I read the post until I read the email from your site that mentioned a free download. I am eager to learn more about cell salts!

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  29. Thank you Ruth Morgan. I am 46 and grew up with homeopathy. I never had anything to drive down a fever and neither did any of my four children or my grandkids. We used homeopathy and if the fever was 105 for more than 1 hour I brought it down by putting the child in a warm bath and gradually cooling it until the fever came down a bit. Homeopathy does work but you have to have the correct remedy which can be tricky.

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  30. Ruth Morgan via Facebook April 4, 2013 at 5:51 pm

    It’s sad how so many people don’t realize that God gave us fevers to fight the germs. I remember my mom saying that 104 was common in children & not to worry unless it spiked higher. I stressed this to my children so they wouldn’t bombard their children with drugs.

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  31. I was just caring for my 2 yo grandson recently for a weekend. He woke from his afternoon nap with a fever(99.6 – 100.6) about 3:30. I had to hold him. He would not be put down. We made a mug of Gypsy cold care tea. He drank 1/3 of it and then fell asleep again at 6:00 for one hour. Then he had the rest of his tea and a small bottle of goats milk and was back down by 9:00. I did not hear a peep out of him and he woke the next morning with no fever, back to his old self.
    When I raised my own children, I only treated them at night with Tylenol if they were extremely fussy and irritable. But now I probably would not do even that.
    So thankful for this place to share and learn.

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  32. Tracey Stirling April 4, 2013 at 2:43 pm

    Where can we learn more about the 12 cell salts? I would love to know more about how to use them for teeth coming in crooked. My 8 year old daughter talks in her sleep or gets up still asleep almost every night. I have had her on GAPS which has helped but not completely remedied it. I am wondering if there is a homeopathic remedy that would help her and if so how often would I use it?

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  33. I have been using Bioplasma by Hyland’s for the past 6 months. It is a combination of 12 mineral cell salts. The ingredients lists Calc Phos 3x HPUS and Ferrum phos 3x HPUS. I bought the Bioplasma because it is what a homeopathic pediatrician in the area recommends.

    My son is 8 months old and still nursing. I take 4 pellets 3x a day when he is sick (or I am sick) and hope it gets to him through my milk. I have occasionally given him 1 pellet once or twice a day hoping it will help him but hesitate because I don’t know how safe it is for him.

    Are you familiar with Hyland’s Bioplasma??
    Is there a reason you recommend “#1 and #4″ instead?

    Thank you!
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  34. I don’t like to give anything for a fever at all and have only treated a couple of times — and that was for other symptoms, not fever. Last May my then almost 3 YO had a fever with severe jaw pain and swelling (we suspected mumps but doctor didn’t test for it). We gave belladonna so he could sleep, after consulting with a homeopath. It helped. Had he not been completely miserable we would not have treated at all.

    To me it doesn’t matter how it’s lowered, it needs to be left alone to fight. And NEVER put a child in a cold bath or use cool/cold to try to lower the fever. The body will begin to shiver to maintain the temperature, it could spike higher or more quickly, and this could lead to a febrile seizure. Fevers in and of themselves usually don’t cause them, quickly spiking fevers do.

    My kids have never had a fever last more than 24 hours and often not even that. We usually treat symptoms with herbs if we need to treat at all, usually for comfort or to boost immune function.

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  35. Achieving a high fever is a sign of a healthy immune system. My child who had the highest fever with chicken pox was also the one who recovered most quickly.

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  36. This is dangerous misinformation! My father’s high fevers left untreated led to childhood seizures which then led to epilepsy for his entire life. He died of suicide due to the high does of medications he needed to control his epilepsy. At the very least, children should be put in a lukewarm bath and given fluids, but even fever reducer is ok in moderation.

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    • I agree Liz: there certainly is a time and a place for reducing a fever (SO sorry about your Dad!). And for seeking professional help, I might add. For the rest of the time, though, we moms could once in awhile imagine that good things are going on in these little slightly feverish bodies, without panic and hurrying to the ER. It’s a great time to be alive: to research something like this from several angles and seeking what feels right to you, the empowered parent with no (or at least minimized) fear, vs the modern tradition of expecting the worst to happen.

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    • I’m so sorry about your loss. I can’t imagine your pain.

      However, the blame is likely being misdirected. Its not the fever we ought to fear, its the Tylenol. Its not the sore throat, its the antibiotics. Its not the depression, its the psychotropic drugs.

      Childhood fevers do not cause epilepsy. They indeed may precipitate a pre-existing condition, but they are not the underlying cause. Unfortunately, its more convenient and legally safer for a doctor to blame your grandmother for allowing this or that when indeed, its often the iotrogenic treatment administered by the doctor.

      Epilepsy treated by drugs can indeed cause such deepening problems, but that ought to make us more wary of drugs, not an opportunity to point out how more of them would have been beneficial.
      I hope your grandmother was not aware of the blame being placed on her while she was still alive.

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  37. Dry fevers can kill. Every Mom would do well to have a few things on hand in case handling a dry fever at home ever becomes necessary. This can save lives.
    My then-2-year-old daughter developed a high fever in a very short period of time after a not-so-scary low-grade fever and throwing up for part of a day. The fever rose so quickly that transporting her from our remote location would have been stressful for her and dangerously long. She was delirious and began having spasms. My husband insisted we administer an enema of warm water and garlic, a remedy his grandmother always used. I hated the idea–my baby was suffering already and that sounded awful!
    He emptied a regular child’s Fleet enema (I still have no idea why we even had it in the house) and refilled it with warm water and garlic powder (crushed fresh garlic also works) and inserted it with her lying down as if we were changing her diaper. Her body soaked it all up immediately and the spasms completely stopped. He gave another dose and her fever dropped three degrees in two minutes. She calmed down completely and went to sleep. In the morning she was running around.
    After several less-scary experiences approaching a fever in this way I became comfortable with the idea, and in the 9 years since then, it’s part of my first line of defense.
    If there is a suspected blockage and you’re hoping to clean out the bowel before having it soak up anything, a cold water enema administered while the child is sitting on the toilet can take care of that; then warm water, garlic in water, or herbal teas may be administered while the child is lying on their back or on their right side.
    When an IV is not an option, and digestion isn’t either, this can SAVE LIVES. Before IV’s this was the FIRST thing nurses would do when a patient came to the ER. They gladly gave it up when poking looked less gross. Enema bottles cost next-to-nothing (the junk they sell IN them is worth little; dump that out), can be sterilized for re-use, take up little space, and give you options you shouldn’t find yourself without.
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  38. I hope this has been addressed by other comments, but if going the homeopathic route, it’s kind of critical that you follow the instructions (which are not on all homeopathic labels!) in storing and taking them. Hear me out here: a homeopathic is a FREQUENCY. It is possible to lessen the effect of the frequency by touching them, storing them near essential oils, or maybe in other ways. People who have no results from homeopathics usually do not know this. You need to pour them into the lid of the container (or onto a clean spoon), then carefully into your mouth without touching the inside of the lid. Then hold them under your tongue to dissolve as completely as possible. Otherwise, they may do little or nothing.
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    • I’m so glad you posted this. Thank you. I just started putting my cell salts in with my daily vitamin container… I won’t be doing that anymore! My midwives gave me homeopathics in the lid and I just figured it was a sanitation thing.
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    • Wendy…do you have any suggestions for travelling by airplane? I have some remedies I need to be taking and I don’t want them altered. Thanks!

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      • When traveling, I carry my remedy kit with me on the plane and make the officials know that they are homeopathic medicines that must not be put through x-rays, etc. In India and Dubai, they instantly recognized them as homeopathic and looked at me with an approving nod! Elsewhere, I’ve never had a problem , regardless of what part of the world i travel.
        Having said this, clients and students report to me that x-rays have not hindered the efficacy.

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  39. thanks for the transcript. I have been interested in simple homeopathic remedies and looking for something to get me started. this might do the trick!

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  40. I don’t have children myself, but I remember growing up in the 90s and hearing people saying from time to time that if a child’s fever gets too high or persists for too long that it can lead to brain damage. Is there any truth to such claims?

    Starting about two years ago I learned to question everything I heard about health and medicine, so if anyone could shed some light on this, I would be grateful.

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    • I remember hearing that too, and I was worried about it with my kids at first. Now I have learned differently, and honestly the article says it all. Fevers are not the threat, just a symptom of what’s going on. I just monitor fevers and give liquids to drink and cater to the kids a little when they feel crappy with a fever and it goes away. What I am interested in is the mention of letting fever run its course can prevent future cancer. I guess we’ll have to google it.

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    • As per Dr. Mendelsohn and the APA, fevers from an infection from a childhood illness will generally not go over 105-106. However, if there is another issue at hand, such as a head injury, then a higher fever may ensue and this would call for more drastic measures than simply allowing a fever to do its good work. There seems to be a general consensus among many astute pediatricians, homeopathic as well as allopathic that fever is not dangerous until it gets to 107 and that this is not what occurs in normal childhood illnesses.

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      • 107, are you kidding me? I was sick for a week with a fever that high when I was younger, and when my parents finally brought me in, I was in a fever coma for a another week. Spent another couple of weeks after that in the hospital. That was with a 106 fever. Anyone that says a fever must be 107 degrees to be dangerous shouldn’t be practicing medicine. I don’t know where you got your info from, but I doubt many “astute” pediatricians say that.

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        • I’m including a few MD’s below, but before I do so, I urge readers who comment to read the article in totality . I gave my sources in the article.

          The best pediatrician of them all, as far as I’m concerned is Dr. Robert Mendelsohn. I mentioned and linked to his book in the above article and encourage every parent to own his books. All of them.

          I knew this question would arise, which is why I directed readers to his writings. if you’re truly interested, that is the source I recommend.

          He states that that there is no set standard and that the AAP makes changes frequently.
          This is evidenced by the “new and improved” statement frm the American Academy of Pediatrics:

          “Contrary to what most parents think, there’s no evidence that fever itself can increase the risk of adverse outcomes like brain damage, wrote Janice E. Sullivan, MD, of the University of Louisville, and Henry C. Farrar, MD, of the Arkansas Children’s Hospital, and colleagues.”

          “Appropriate counseling on the management of fever begins by helping parents understand that fever, in and of itself, is not known to endanger a generally healthy child,” they wrote.

          “According to the guidance, which was published in “Pediatrics”, physicians should help parents understand that fever is not a primary illness; rather, it is a physiologic mechanism that has beneficial effects in fighting infection. It retards the growth and reproduction of bacteria and viruses, enhances neutrophil production and T-lymphocyte proliferation, and aids the body’s acute-phase reaction.

          However, it appears to be a common belief among parents that they must attempt to normalize their child’s temperature to prevent danger. Parents should also be instructed that antipyretic use does not prevent febrile seizures.

          Thus, physicians should communicate that the primary goal in treating fever should solely be to improve the child’s overall comfort level, the researchers said.

          Dr Barton Schmitt, MD says it’s not until fever reaches 108 that brain damage can result.
          Dr Richard Besser of the AAP says there are new guidelines, a new document (It sure took them long enough!) in which new standards are indicated. He calls the problem “fever phobia”.

          Dr. Carly Wendler says there’s generally no damage to the brain until a fever rises to 107.6 and the general consensus is that it will not reach that frm normal childhood illnesses, only from heat stroke or head injuries.

          There you have it. An old time pediatrician, the American Academy of Pediatrics and a sprinkling of others.

          How could anyone ever really know what the cause of this illness or that is truly from? Its speculative and these speculations arise from the theories of the day. And as you can see, they change regularly with still no true consistency.

          Now, perhaps we can put it to rest that coma, brain damage, seizures, or life long epilepsy can be blamed on something other than a fever from normal childhood illness.

          I guess it really IS important that we do our homework.

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  41. My name is perry. I’m Joette’s 25 year old son, a pilot and flight instructor and I also do the tech work for my mom. I’m writing because I saw a comment here that was derogatory towards homeopathy. I just can’t let such a remark go unchallenged.

    Blogs are not the place to offer dissertations, but I could write one because homeopathy is integral to my and my family’s health. I should also mention that also I drink raw milk with raw eggs daily and lots of bone stocks and I enjoy cooking from scratch, but my friends are astonished when I tell them that I’ve not ever taken any drugs. Until they get to know me, they think I’m lying.

    My brother and I live together and we keep our homeopathy kit in our apartment. It has helped us and our friends out of many fixes.

    Here’s why I don’t own Tylenol, aspirin or antibiotics:

    I’ve witnessed my grandmother having a migraine and she fully recovered within minutes. I used to see my uncle hobble with arthritis in his knee until my mom gave him Rhus tox to take over a period of weeks. I saw our cat that was nearly dead come to life within 24 hours after Sulphur and our flock of chickens fully recuperate from fowl cholera with Cuprum. My Paternal grandmother used to have arthritis, my dog used to have cysts and a friend of mine used to get cold sores.

    For those who wonder if this is possible, they might also ask our European, South American and Indian counterparts. They too, count on homeopathy for their medical method.

    In the slightly corny words of my younger brother after a ski accident….”Homeopathy rocks!”

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    • Thank you Perry for putting it out there! I really appreciated your view as a child that grew up in this way of all natural healing and the affect it has had on you as an adult now. Grateful for your comment. :)

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  42. What about essental oils. I do allow my children to have fevers but use the oils as well. When my daughter had a fever for a few days with the flu I finally gave her some peppermint oil and it brought it down, so she could rest. What your your feelings on the oils?

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  43. Thank you so much for making people THINK!! “Modern” people seem to be clueless about their bodies and the innate abilities and purposes of symptomology. In the absence of the cell salts, letting your little one play in a warm tub and letting it go cool helps, as well. Fevers are GOOD – it means that the body is doing what it’s supposed to do. Don’t interrupt that process.

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  44. Natalie Scheuber April 4, 2013 at 10:49 am

    I agree with the fever is not a bad thing idea. The problem I have now is that my son recently have seizures due to high fever. He had no fever one moment and the next he was having a seizure. Now, fear is an issue for me. I have been told that this probably would not have happened if the fever had raised gradually rather than spiked so hard. There was not anything I could have done at the time and I know that (I don’t have any guilt about it). So do I go forward and not treat fevers because I couldn’t have treated the ones that caused seizures anyway as they happened to fast? They tell me this type of seizure does not cause brain damage (the are very short in our case).

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    • As per Dr. Mendelsohn, a seasoned pediatrician, as well as a the APA, the cause of seizures is indeed as a result of a fever rising quickly. I can’t urge yo u enough to read his book. The link above will take you to Amazon and the cost of the book is about $1.00 plus shipping.

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  45. Great article!! I never treat fevers anymore, not for about 5-6 years. But I was not aware of the homeopathic remedies mentioned to work alongside the fever. I agree and fully believe that fevers are a GOOD thing and if you let your child’s body work, they will be sick less often and their illness will be short lived. My kids rarely get sick, but next time one of them gets a fever I will be referring back to this article and try the remedies alongside the fever. I love homeopathy!!!

    On a side note about homeopathy, my youngest daughter (3yrs old) suffered from severe car sickness – she would throw up and be in distress, no matter what about 45 minutes into a drive, whether she had eaten, not eaten, drinks no drinks, nothing made a difference. A friend recommended Coccolus Indicus (sp?) and it has worked like a DREAM!!! The sea bands never helped her and I didn’t want to use gravol. I’ve used this remedy on 6 different long car rides since December 2012 and she has not thrown up once! Even if she’s awake the entire trip. Homeopathy is amazing and anyone who is hesitant – don’t be! Just go for it, you will be amazed :). Thanks for all the great info :)

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  46. Thank you for the encouraging article! My baby girl suffers from repeated ear infections every time she teethes. While I haven’t heard specifically why Tylenol isn’t safe I have heard and been applying the leave fever be concept at my chiro’s suggestion. It really is a learning process to revamp everything you thought you knew! I look forward to continuing to learn how to treat my family is a way that encourages their immune systems to become stronger :) Quick question…are your cell salts from Hyland’s Kids Kit? And where did you get them?
    Thank you again for your encouraging article right when I needed it!

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    • there are no cell slats in the Hyland’s KIds Kit. But you can buy them on line from Hyland’s. They’re also found at most health food stores and we also have a cell salt kit that comes in a nifty nylon carrying case in my office. The price is a bit more, but the case is convenient for diaper bags and travel. Please feel free to call my office if you have any trouble finding them.

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  47. Carol Lucas Hoskins via Facebook April 4, 2013 at 9:36 am

    Thanks for sharing! I’ve knwn fever was a friend, but didn’t know about these helps.

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  48. Three of my children ran high temps, over 105, consistently. It wasn’t rare for them. I tried homeopathy for awhile. After a few hospitalizations, I threw the homeopathic in the trash and gave them acetaminophen and/or ibuprofen. No more hospitalizations! We do let a low grade fever run its course and use nutrition/herbs for support. But I won’t trust homeopathy.

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    • Agree Sharon! We have had some high fevers (which I initially blew off as nothing; I’m a nurse, so I probably blow off too many small illness related things, but that’s a whole other story) that were actually a sign of something more serious and ended up hospitalized. Thankfully fevers don’t happen very often for us, but a high fever over 102 always gets a call to the physician, as that seems to be an indicator that something serious may be going on (I’ve had bladder/kidney infection, infected and almost ruptured gallbladder, kiddo and hubby with blood in urine/kidney dysfunction from undetected strep, strep that showed up with same symptoms as appendicitis). Low grades fevers and common illnesses are rare for us (yay), but a high fever gets this momma’s attention!!

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  49. Annemarie Scolari via Facebook April 3, 2013 at 11:53 pm

    I really like Oscillo. It doesn’t do much for the fever but it does a lot for the symptoms. When everyone and their dog was getting vaxed for that h1n1(?) or swine flu, I just stocked up on Oscillo. I’m going to check out the other stuff Joette recommends. You can never have too much homeopathy in your drug cabinet. :)

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  50. Thank you for the information Joette. Are these the usual steps you take for children who experience febrile seizures as well? I do not like giving medications, but my children (ages 2 and 4) can also spike within 3-4 minutes and I have not yet found a natural way to prevent them. I use tepid wash cloths and baths, but that doesn’t seem to be sufficient and I worry that too many seizures will have a more negative impact than acetaminophen. Any ideas?

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  51. Phoebe Zimmermann via Facebook April 3, 2013 at 11:16 pm

    Phoebe, have you actually used these with your kids? Does it work? It’s hard not to be skeptical…

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    • I’ve used these remedies for over 25 years and have taught thousands of mothers to do the same. I’ve yet to hear that they don’t work, unless the directions were ill followed. Mother Teresa administered them to the poor in Calcutta. Gandhi insisted that the Indian Government employ them. Germany considers homeopathy a part of their medical system. The British Royal Family has depended on homeopathy for over 3 generations. Prince Charles is an advocate.
      If you don’t mind, I’m curious as to what part of this presentation encourages skepticism.

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  52. Lydia Kou via Facebook April 3, 2013 at 10:07 pm

    Yep, I’m familiar with reasons for letting the fever do its work. Always good to have some extra tricks up the sleeve, though. I’d probably be most likely to use compresses very briefly only if my little one was extremely uncomfortable.

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  53. This is good information however my Anthroposophical/ Homeopathic GP has said fevers to 103-105 are okay never over that so long as your child is not showing signs of febrile convulsions once they are you need to bring their temp down quickly but gently and he would recommend Weleda Chamomilla Suppositories and they do work really well. It is common practice to use them in Europe but not sure if they are available outside NZ or Europe. There are many other ways to bring down a high temp gently like with lemon wraps etc.

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  54. Mamatha Balasubramanian via Facebook April 3, 2013 at 10:04 pm

    I usually don’t treat fevers but the last time my toilet had a fever, I gave him Belladonna 30C and he was back to his normal self in less than 30 minutes.

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  55. Ellen Lindow via Facebook April 3, 2013 at 9:55 pm

    @Lydia Kou and others, Please keep in mind as the article makes the important point it is best not to try bring it down. We only ever tried this a couple times and after a few days of fever, just so he would fall asleep, and just barely affected it. The best results were always to let things run their course.

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  56. Amelia Owca Hinote via Facebook April 3, 2013 at 9:47 pm

    It depends on each illness, the level of discomfort and the child’s ability to rest/sleep to fend it off. Bathing is great, but make sure to watch for dehydration, making sure child is consume liquids often!

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  57. Ellen Lindow via Facebook April 3, 2013 at 9:42 pm

    And we loved having Dr. Robert Mendelsohn’s book. Still sits on our book shelf even though our child is grown and on his own now. Thought if it right away even before I got to the article. :)

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  58. Ellen Lindow via Facebook April 3, 2013 at 9:39 pm

    It is VERY rare for a fever to get over 104 and in most cases that would be from a tropical disease or the like. Our son is 23, healthy VERY strong immune system and we never brought down a fever when he was young. He got over anything in about a 1/4 the time of any of his friends, and most of the time caught nothing at all. Homeopathics were always a favorite in our house. A German Naturopath Family Physician wrote in her book we own, that a safer way if one must lower the temp a little, is to use cool, NOT cold, compresses on the calf muscles. This will not shock the body, but as the blood circulates it will slightly cool the body until the patient is more comfortable. It is sad that still after almost 25 years so few parents still know the basic immune system function of a fever.

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  59. Lydia Kou via Facebook April 3, 2013 at 9:36 pm

    To those worried that fever is “life threatening” (comment apparently deleted) the American Academy of Pediatrics says that fever “is not the primary illness but is a physiologic mechanism that has beneficial effects in fighting infection. There is no evidence that fever itself worsens the course of an illness or that it causes long-term neurologic complications.” http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2011/02/28/peds.2010-3852.abstract

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  60. lol I am sure she didn’t mean it that way. Far to many people give their kids medicine if they have a slight fever which doesn’t help fight the sickness. You may already know but the reason we get fevers is because the heat aids in killing the virus, bacteria, etc…. Our bodies are truely amazing machine if we just let them do there jobs but yes like you said when it becomes life threatening I am giving my kids tylenol, advil and quickly going to the hospital. Has never happened to us before (via hospital) but that is what I would do if I couldn’t tame it naturally

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    • The higher the better. it will top out at about 105-106, if its a normal childhood illness. if its suppressed, the bacteria or virus will not be “cooked” off. it will naturally fop off there. fever doesn’t generally go any higher unless there’s a head injury or heat stroke.

      A nice high fever, gets it done and over, instead of lasting for weeks or requiring a repeat performance weeks later.

      Think sauna.

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  61. Alice Marie Carey via Facebook April 3, 2013 at 9:33 pm

    Not for babies though I thought? Can’t they have seizures? I usually let mine go and I thought you could for older children. But what about babies?

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    • febrile seizures are not life threatening and not even dangerous. additionally, they have little to do with the height of the fever. they instead represent the rapidity of the rising temperature.

      I probably should have offered some information on how a parent ought to take Ignaita 30 or another soothing, nerve remedy for when their child gets a fever. its the parents’ fear that reaches for Tylenol, the phone or the cool baths. If its important enough to parents to get this fever thing straight, I urge purchasing the book I recommend (about $1.00 on Amazon) and the free download of my script in the purple box above.

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  62. It is so good to see this information getting out more and more. It is a message that needs to be repeated as there is so much indoctrination to the Tylenol approach.

    Thank you!!

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  63. Janet Grear via Facebook April 3, 2013 at 9:30 pm

    Fevers are helping you in most cases, they are killing the bad bacteria in your system. Not many become life threatening so it certainly does make sense. You don’t want to bring down a fever that is your body’s way of fighting illness.

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    • My pediatrician told me that it depends on the behavior of the child. If a child has a high fever, but is still responding and behaving “normally” (fussy is normal when sick), then the child is ok, but if the child is limp, lethargic, screaming, or otherwise behaving oddly, no matter the fever temperature, then something is wrong and head for the ER.

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      • This is the part that confuses me. My kids always scream/cry uncontrollably or act lethargic when they have a fever. I don’t even bother measuring their temp anymore… or rarely do. However, I start to panic when they refuse to drink anything at all for hours on end…

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        • One of the best ways to aid in keeping them from dehydrating , is to coat the bottoms of the feet and the palms of their hands with olive oil. Its an old European trick that can help in retaining moisture. Another good way to keep them hydrated is to make pop cycles from fresh juice and even toss in some of the cell salts I mentioned above. Some kids will go for something cold. ice chips with fresh lemon and raw honey can also be tried.

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  64. There is not one single reference here. No explaination of what a cell salt is. Obviously it is a salt, what make it related to cells? There is NO explaination of how it works.

    Come on. If we are supposed to think for ourselves and we aren’t supposed believe the establishment, do you think you could throw us a little bit of a bone here.

    FYI-A google search revealed little else. How can I give these to my kids without having a full knowledge of what they are??

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    • Christa, not sure how what you are googling, but if you google the recommendations listed for cell salts in the blog you can find lots of info.

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    • Christa,

      I wouldn’t give my son homeopathy treatment without consulting a homeopathist first – do a preventative treatment, and then receive some advice for ‘what if’. After our consultations, mine is always available by email for advice at any time of day (well almost) at no extra charge, and the medications are really cheap so it’s easy to justify having them on hand, just in case.

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    • I guess you didn’t read my post in its entirety. The details of what, how, when and where are in the free download offer. Space restrictions prohibit getting into the details in a short blog post. As you can imagine, anything worth knowing is worth investigating.
      I hope you take advantage of the free download.

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    • Indeed, not only did I offer more info, but I’m giving it away at no charge. The text explains what cell salts are as well as how and when to use them. My offer is in the purple box above.
      Enjoy!

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    • joette calabrese April 4, 2013 at 5:01 pm
      I guess you didn’t read my post in its entirety. The details of what, how, when and where are in the free download offer. Space restrictions prohibit getting into the details in a short blog post. As you can imagine, anything worth knowing is worth investigating.
      I hope you take advantage of the free download.

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  65. I would warn that you do need to take some preventative measures when dealing with a fever, especially in a young toddler or infant. Whether or not you are going to turn to Tylenol or Motrin to lower the fever, or the homeopathic cell salts recommended in this article, you must do the tried and true methods of lowering a fever through the use of tepid baths or cold wash cloths. My youngest son had a febrile seizure that lasted 45 minutes when he was 20 months old. The cause was a high fever. It was the scariest thing I have experienced. I had heard of febrile seizures, but never knew how serious one could be. I think mothers need to know that in addition to giving a homeopathic cell salt, or a commonly prescribed over the counter pain reliever, they must also do whatever they can to naturally to bring a fever down.

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  66. Kristina campbell April 3, 2013 at 7:07 pm

    What about a 17 day old baby? My newborn recently had 102.7 after having been GBS positive and untreated at a home birth. They were concerned about meningitis and to my extreme dismay, gave him IV antibiotics. We were hospitalized for 4 days due to an extreme respiratory infection that required oxygen and lung/sinus auctioning and respiratory treatments. It ended up being RSV and those antibiotics were unnecessary, which just saddens me so much. I am drinking,y kefir every day in hopes to help recolonized his gut through my breastmilk. But, would you have NOT gone to the doctor with a fever of 102.7 in such a young baby? It is so hard to now what to do… The system scared me to death that the fever could be GBS related. Sad mother~

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    • Kristina, don’t be sad or feel guilty over the action you’ve taken. You did the best you could with the circumstances you were under. I can’t offer you a lot of information (I’m sure there are plenty of people on here more informed than me) but I heard on the Healthy Life Summit during the Donna Gates presentation that she recommends small drops of cultured juice to help populate a babies digestive tract (not store bought pasturised sauerkraut (etc), but the real deal). Maybe that would help? Or perhaps you could put some probiotics on your nipple prior to feeding? Look into this yourself, they’re just my random thoughts at this point.

      Best of luck. The fact that you’re on this site and using kefir means you’re giving your baby a great start and you’ll see the benefits of your actions in the future :)

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    • Any baby that is less than 6 weeks old with a fever over 100.4 should be taken to an ER for evaluation-urine, blood work, and an LP. The main concern is meningitis and the goal is to give the baby antibiotics as soon as possible. The reason for this is due to an infant’s weak immune system. If you wait to give antibiotics, you could be starting treatment too late and the result is potentially fatal. This course of action would be taken regardless of your GBS status. I work at a pediatric ER and have seen hundreds of newborns brought in with fevers. The same process is followed for each one.

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    • A high fever in a new born is noteworthy in that it can represent a more serious illness. However, it doesn’t necessarily mean that the fever ought be artificially reduced. Instead, it might mean its time to investigate what the underlying cause could be.

      The most important job on earth is in being a mother. Put a LOT of time into learning how to use homeopathy, how to recognize illnesses and how to use alternative treatments. Become well informed and independent hence self empowered. And don’t beat yourself up. Take this experience as your turning point and begin right there.

      Get Dr. Mendelsohn’s book, that I mention above and download the free script I offer in the purple box above.

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  67. Great post! I don’t have kids, but when I get a fever I do my best to keep warm and encourage it, since my recovery is faster and more complete when I do this. I think that’s perhaps why we feel cold when we have a fever – it’s our body’s way of making us do things to stay warm, rather than cool down.
    Mali Korsten\’s last post: Be Slow To Take Offence

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  68. Are you saying homeopathy is quackery? The German state medical system recognizes it and funds homeopathy therapy and a vaccine injury was FABULOUSLY helped by it.

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    • I’m merely saying, it has never worked for us. Maybe we’re immune to it. I’m only asking for another suggestion, not trying to ruffle feathers or hurt anyone’s feelings or defy conventional wisdom.

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  69. My cousins 5 month old baby had a fever of 103-104 for a couple days before she took her to see the doctor. He told her its an ear infection and said there is nothing else that will get rid of the infection because it was passed to him by someone. Well, I have 2 babys myself, and I do not use homeopathic remedies for certain reasons, what could I do if my baby has that? If I dont do anything, will it go away? When is the limit to when my baby can still be safe and I take her in to see Dr…who I KNOW will prescribe antibiotics…ugh. Actually, my baby had a stuffy nose and was coughing a little while back, and I took her in. They said ear infection but her ears were not bothering her and no fever, so I didnt bother with antibiotics. Even though the dr told me all sorts of things like her ear drums can pop because of the pressure. I gave her non homeopathic immune boost liquid that was for babies and all natural. She was totally fine. But Im wondering about times when baby has high fever. In my culture people freak out of high fevers. My mom will make me take her in!

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    • Joette Calabrese, HMC, CCH, RSHom(Na) April 3, 2013 at 8:52 pm

      If your doctor is still prescibing antibiotics, then its time to find one who doesn’t. Or, of course, you can learn to do this yourself. Interestingly, some pediatricians have decided to not treat ear infections other than offering an analgesic for pain. They beleive that a ruptured ear drum is an acceptable method of completion to ottitis media.

      I can’t encourage moms enough to take control of these simple childhood illnesses, hence mimizing long term problems. If you don’t use homeopathy,(although, I can’t imagine why not), then get a hold of Dr. Mendelsohn’s book that I recomend in the text.
      Your baby is YOUR responsibility, not your mom’s. Do your homework and then hold to your earned ideals.

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      • Just last week I had a terrible ear infection. I was home all day with a throbbing ear and a fever, I read about different home remedies and the one that worked the best was fresh onion juice… sounds odd, but it worked!!

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    • For earaches you may want to try colloidial silver. It’s very effective, non-toxic and very inexpensive if you learn to make it yourself. Colloidial silver also works on a host of other maladies.

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    • The logic is interesting… “Your baby’s eardrum might rupture [thus causing a hole], so we’re going to put a tube in [make a hole] to drain the infection that the antibiotics didn’t get rid of [and by the way, your child now has compromised digestion for who-knows-how-long].” I have seen this time and again! One winter 18 of twenty 18mo-3-year-olds in our Church nursery class had tubes put in. This is not natural.
      Do these babies need probiotics to reduce mucous in their bodies? Moms, look into that one if you feel it’s a possible cause. Is there a deficiency (water? sleep? fat?) or an excess (sweets? contention?) that is causing extra stress that could be addressed?

      Natural remedies (even IF the eardrum bursts; a natural precaution the body takes when it is needed; ruptured eardrums heal when the infection clears, just like cut ones do) include (but are not limited to):
      -cut a button of garlic in two; place cut side inward over the ear canal (if this freaks you out, try it on yourself first; of course make sure it’s not small enough to go INto the ear canal) and cover with bandage tape to hold it in place.
      -Garlic oil (garlic infused into olive oil; stinks, but works) can be used to massage downward from the back of the ear, down the neck. Essential oils like lavender will also work, as will a mullein or lobelia or plantain poultice/tincture/ointment (mullein is a wonder for clearing congestion–lifesaver for mastitis!– lobelia is antispasmodic and offers quick pain relief; plantain is great for clearing infection)
      -a drop of colloidal silver in the ear has cured screaming-pain-ear infections in my little ones in less than 5 minutes, with no recurrence; if your little one can keep that drop in by lying on their side for at least a minute, it works best; but sometimes in-and-out is enough anyway.
      -Feel the glands in your baby’s neck: you’ll likely find a marble-like hard spot just under the jaw by the infected ear. gentle downward massage or even gentle pressure helps the congested glands to get the signal to move it. I don’t understand it, but I have had results with it, and have friends who swear by it.
      Wendy\’s last post: Easter: rooted in what??

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    • For ear aches crush some fresh garlic in extra virgin olive oil. Leave to infuse for a bit (can’t remember how ling but maybe atleast 15 min) Strain, warm the oil in a water bath to body temp and use a pippete and drop into ear. It works for us every time! This is dr Natasha Campbell Mc Bride’s recommendation.

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