The One Thing You Should Never Tell Your Pediatrician

by Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist December 19, 2013

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One of the most rewarding aspects of blogging for awhile is when random strangers come up to you while you are shopping or eating in a restaurant to tell you that they read your blog or watch your videos and love it. This may even happen while you are out of town as I discovered on vacation last summer while shopping at the Pike Place Fish Market in Seattle.

I love it when this happens as it provides a tangible, real world connection to the virtual work I do everyday and the positive impact it is having on people’s lives.

This wonderful experience happened again the other day while I was in the checkout aisle at the store.  A young mother named Vicki stopped to say hello and said that she read my blog and really enjoyed it. She then went on to mention that my video on making the homemade raw milk formula had been especially helpful to her and that her baby daughter has been thriving on it for the past 2 months.

She also mentioned that her Pediatrician said at a recent checkup that the baby was growing so well and was very, very healthy.

At that point, I got very worried and asked Vicki if she had told her Pediatrician that she was using the raw milk formula to feed her child.

To my great relief, she told me she had not mentioned it to him and didn’t ever intend to.

You see, it is very risky to ever tell your Pediatrician, or any doctor caring for your child for that matter, that you feed your child raw milk. Whether that child is a baby, toddler, or adolescent, the American Academy of Pediatrics is becoming more and more hostile toward raw milk by the day and you risk having the Pediatrician tattle to Social Services if you choose to feed your baby or child this wonderfully healthy, traditional food that has nourished humans for millenia.

Not only has the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) Committee on Infectious Diseases and Committee on Nutrition officially warned that babies and kids should avoid having raw milk, but the AAP’s policy statement, published a few days ago in the Journal Pediatrics, endorses a complete ban on the sale of raw or unpasteurized milk and milk products in the United States, shockingly even including raw milk cheeses that have been aged for more than 60 days.

Dr. Jatinder Bhatia, writing for the group, said the following: ”Contamination during milking or storage or milking from cows that may be diseased, exposes the consumer to severe and life-threatening illnesses.”

If you think that a doctor would never call Social Services on a patient that feeds her children raw milk, think again.

Consider the recent nightmare of Alorah Gellerson of Brooklin, Maine who made the mistake of telling a doctor about the homemade raw goat milk formula she proudly and carefully made for her healthy, happy, three-month old son Carson.

Social Services quickly same knocking at the door after the doctor reported Alorah and threatened to take Carson away and put him in foster care unless Alorah switched to store bought commercial formula.

Can you believe it?  Your conventional Pediatrician would rather you feed your baby GMO frankenformula never proven safe for human consumption instead of a homemade, nourishing formula made with raw milk from pastured cows or goats.

The world has officially gone mad, my friends, at least where food is concerned and conventional Pediatricians are leading the charge.  Be sure to opt out of the craziness by staying silent at the doctor’s office and proactively sourcing safe, healthy, nutrient dense raw milk for your children.

Sources for Grassfed Raw Milk

Interested in making the homemade raw milk formula for your baby instead of GMO commercial formula if you are unable to breastfeed?  Click here for a how-to video plus recipe. If you need sources for the raw milk formula ingredients, click here.

Need grassfed raw milk for your older child?  Click here to find a local farm near you.

Need more information on the safety of raw milk? The book The Untold Story of Milk: The History, Politics, and Science of Nature’s Perfect Food is a must read to help you mentally bust through the misinformed, anti-raw milk propaganda of conventional nutritional circles and governmental entities such as the Centers for Disease Control (CDC).

Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

Sources:

Raw Milk should be Banned in US, says Group of Pediatricians

Pediatricians favor ban of raw, unpasteurized milk, products

AAP Policy Statement on Raw Milk

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Comments (305)

  1. I completely agree with this. I only ever bring up health issues I have concerns with, otherwise I don’t discuss my practices with my pediatrician. Unfortunately, this means I can’t tell my doctor how happy I am that my child is healthy and strong due to what I DONT give him: GMO’s, vaccines, chemical-laden dairy, etc. It’s a very backward world we live in.
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    • The thing is that you have to answer a lot of questions to just get to see the dr. They want to know cup or bottle, where they sleep, what they eat and drink, etc. Even those innocent questions can blow up in your face if you answer raw milk, sleep in my bed, etc etc. More and more I believe it is dangerous to even see a pediatrician unless there is a real problem that you can’t solve at home. Even then, maybe I would see a GP first so they wouldn’t be so fixated on every little thing I do with my kid.

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      • Mrs Brittany Barrett January 27, 2014 at 3:21 pm

        true!! they get so forceful and demanding of an answer! I am not able to remember all the details if i lie to them so i just stopped seeing them. my 15 month old last saw a doc for a weigh in at six months; because we do not vaccinate, and use homemade formula, oh, and he sleeps with me, we chose not to go back. We were only going to the doc for weigh-ins anyway! My son still drinks the homemade formula but i omit a lot of the ingredients since he eats the foods that have those important minerals in them, anyway. I have also chosen to use EOs and herbs in his bath, bottle, and skin for healing instead of drugs of any kind- my kid is chunky and strong for sure!!

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    • I totally agree about not telling pediatrician about raw milk. When I am asked, I say he is on commercial formula, to avoid confrontation. Now I don’t like to lie, but this is a justifiable lie , in my opinion, because my boy is so happy and healthy and has no health problems and it is really none of their business. I I also dono-vax, no-grain and organic homemade baby food for my son as well.

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    • Breast milk #1 best. I cld not breast feed; yes, processed cows milk can be too hard to digest for some babies but I believe it has more to do w/processing than the cows milk. But,if baby is having symptoms of not digesting switch to Goats milk it is easier to digest. Both of my children brought up on raw goat milk; they were very happy & healthy! I’d say common sense approach best and all the genetic engineering & processing is causing much more problems than good quality, healthy raw foods always best option.

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  2. This is an important topic. Thank you.

    My own raw milk farmers were recently court-ordered to release the contact information of all of their share holders to the state health department. The health department contacted each of us by phone or email to “educate” us about the dangers of raw milk and ask if anyone had had diarrhea in the past month. (Several children who drink milk from this farm had gotten E coli., and the health department was trying to find the source. It appears that they’ve given up the hunt after not being able to pin it on my farmers.) Anyway, thankfully they emailed me rather than calling me, but I had decided to not let them know that I have a child, much less that she drinks raw milk.

    Be aware that if you mention raw milk to doctors, the health department, etc. you are putting your farmer at risk as well as your family.

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  3. I, too, saw how this past Monday the American Academy of Pediatrics called for a ban on all raw milk products, especially advising children & pregnant women not to drink raw milk or eat raw cheese.
    Boy would they be thrilled with my household…I, as a pregnant mama, can’t get enough of my farm fresh milk and neither can my toddlers :)
    Also, we go to an amazing holistic doctor who supports (not to mention encourages) our choices.

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  4. My 29 week preemie was fed breast milk for 3 months, then raw milk formula until he fully transitioned to solids around 13 months. Every time we went to the pediatrician she exclaimed and raved about how wonderful he was doing. We REALLY wanted to tell her why he was so healthy and developing so well… raw milk formula. But we knew better and kept our mouths shut. She accepted that we weren’t going to vaccinate, but we didn’t want to push it by telling her about the raw milk formula. He’s now three, and you’d never know he came so early. He’s never had more than a cold, and never had OTC meds or antibiotics. We haven’t been back to the pediatrician in a year and half.

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  5. I was shocked when I told my pediatrician that I used raw milk, and he said ‘many people really believe in raw milk. Just make sure you are getting it from a clean, reliable source.’ This coming from a very ‘modern medicine’ doctor. He’s been awesome as we go through this whole ‘eating right’ process :) That said, I’m sure there are many many doctors that would not be as understanding.

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  6. Wendy Miller Standridge via Facebook December 19, 2013 at 9:54 pm

    I actually think our pedi would embrace this whole-heartedly and pat us on the back for making such a healthful choice. Of course he would warn us to be UBER careful. But, this is a luxury afforded by living in a super small town where most Pedi’s are thrilled to death if mom and dad are even cognizant enough to know there is such a thing as milk you DON”T buy at the store.

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  7. Julia Greer via Facebook December 19, 2013 at 9:54 pm

    Our pediatrician raves about how healthy both of our former preemies are and says “Keep doing exactly what you’re doing” at every well-baby visit… I take that to mean continue their raw goat’s milk (which I conveniently just describe as “organic formula” when asked). :D (It was hard enough to find a ped who is okay with our not vaccinating… I didn’t want to be a COMPLETE trouble-maker!)

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  8. Kelli Hamilton Adams via Facebook December 19, 2013 at 9:55 pm

    Yep, we lie to out pedi. I did tell her that we dropped Children’s Claritin and use essential oils for our son’s allergies, and she seemed genuinely intrigued.

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  9. Leigh Gatny Foster via Facebook December 19, 2013 at 9:55 pm

    Raw milk formula? If you want to feed your baby with what has nourished babies for thousands of years, then I’d say raw BREAST milk is the way to go. Baby tummies have a hard time with cows milk. Since it’s made for cow babies, not people babies. Raw, not raw-I don’t care. Cow milk for cow babies and People milk for people babies in this house!

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    • No kidding? And what do you do if you don’t produce adequate milk? Let them shrivel up and die? Yay for breastfeeding (seriously. I’m nursing EBF baby #5 as I write this) but let’s not be so narrow minded as to think everyone is able to breastfeed. And whatever your opinion is, raw milk is a much better option than frankenformula.

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      • It’s true that not everyone can breastfeed, but I don’t get where you go from that to raw milk. It may be natural, but it is designed for a growing calf or kid, whose needs are very different than those of a human baby.

        I think if you can’t breastfeed, I’d rather use something designed to mimic human breastmilk than something intended for another purpose all together, such as organic formula It may not be natural, but it is much closer to following nature’s clues than raw milk is. I mean, there’s a reason no other species drinks cross-species milk . . . It’s just counter to evolution

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          • And I’ve seen lactating dogs with kittens nursing off of them. And we had a baby goat this year that was sucking off the lactating cow when he could.

        • Well considering our current generation’s problems with obesity, heart disease, autoimmune conditions, diabetes, on and on and on…In the event that I COULDN’T breastfeed (and trust me, I plan to do everything in my power to BF), I am 10000% more comfortable with healthy cow milk than powdered frankenfood that is mostly GMO soy and corn syrup…not to mention all the “flavors” thrown in and the “thickeners” made of who knows what and oh yeah, a lot of it still has whey or some other dairy derivative…

          In the event that I could not breastfeed, I would NEVER feed my babies commercial formula. I would absolutely feed them a homemade WAPF-style formula that, yes, would include dairy. Sorry, I get your point about dairy and I personally limit it, but if your options are “give your baby a formula made of actual real food” or “feed the baby weird GMO frankenfoods that have been linked to a whole host of problems later in life”…weeeeelllll, it’s pretty clear to me.

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    • I was a breastfeeding mom for each of my children, but when I had twins, they stopped growing. No weight gain for over 3 months. I started supplementing with raw milk formula and they drank it like they were starving. Never had an issue with supply, but just wasn’t making enough for two. They both started sleeping through night, my son’s constant ear infections went away and they were more content in general. Sometimes moms need a little help.

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    • Well yes, ideally raw breast milk would be fed to EVERY baby, but sometimes that’s just not possible. My milk dried up when my baby was 4 months old. I was heartbroken! I looked for advice and found things like, “Pump and nurse frequently to increase supply,” and “Eat lots of oatmeal,” and “Drink special lactation teas.” None of those helped! Looking back, perhaps I would’ve been able to continue had someone told me what I REALLY needed: “Eat plenty of FAT and PROTIEN! Stop worrying about losing the baby weight and just EAT. Tell your husband you can’t go back to a job where you can’t pump for 7 or 8 hours at a time until your baby is older!” No one tells you those things, though. They tell new moms how to shed the baby weight by “going veg!” and how to choose a good sitter when you go back to work, then sadly shake their heads when the “unavoidable” happens and Mom needs to supplement with formula.

      Thankfully, I got my facts straightened out by my next pregnancy, and babies 2, 3, and 4 did a marvelous job nursing! I wish I’d known what I know now for my first child. I’m thankful, however, that I was able to make a nourishing raw milk formula for him since my body didn’t make enough of the BEST kind of milk to feed him. I’m sad that he didn’t get breast milk, but I’m sure glad that I had another option besides that powdered garbage in a can that passes for baby food for so many other children!

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    • I sympathize with Kate, its awful that we have to learn to lie, when we are correct in the first place. (really horrible) – I wouldn’t want to have young children in the world the way it is today . (and I hope my adult children do not have children – so far so good) (and also to Leigh – cows milk may not be ideal as human milk, but their are cases where human milk cannot be had and babies need galactose to grow their brains properly (which is only in animal milk as well as human) and goats milk is actually missing something that infants need even thou it is a smaller more appropriate protein than cow milk

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      • Colleen I think you’re referring to folic acid. That’s the only thing that is missing from goat’s milk really. It’s a slightly more complete milk than cow’s milk, but it still requires some supplementation to make it into formula.

        As far as peds go, most of them are walking talking quacks. That’s why we have a general practitioner instead. He’s not old, but he’s old school and just a laid back country doctor. He doesn’t force vaccines and is happy to talk to you about it. He’ll even talk herbs or recommend herbs if that’s what you want. We’re very lucky. When we were seeing a pediatrician, back before they all banned kids who weren’t vaccinated, they threatened to call social services because we were giving our 1 1/2 year old daughter goat’s milk to drink while I was at work. She still nursed and ate solid foods but they went into spasms over the lack of folic acid and b12 or something. I don’t remember which it was. Anyway, I just got some good quality vitamin drops and plunked a couple of drops in her milk every day just to get them to shut up.

        You’d think that they’d be happy speaking to folks who don’t feed their kids a bunch of food from boxes or give them bottles full of kool-aid, but no!
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    • I am a grandmother raising her grandson because his mother is unable. I raised him on raw milk formula till 12 months and then switched to straight raw milk. At 18 mos he is thriving and you’d never guess he spent the first 6 weeks of life in the hospital. I would like to point out that the formula is made with gelatin so that the protein in the milk is more digestible for babies. I’m sure thousands of caretakers can attest to the fact that this formula is, indeed, not hard on a baby’s tummy.

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    • Loretta Mae Forman, in many states it is illegal to sell raw dairy products for human consumption. In Florida, for example, farmers are licensed to sell those types of products for animal consumption ONLY. Of course, as the buyer, you can do whatever you want once you’re back at home.

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  10. This is sick! Big Brother is always watching and judging! We switched our 7 year old to almond milk because it is better for him, and the drs look at us like we are crazy for not giving him cow milk from the store. I couldn’t imagine the looks that we would get if we gave him raw milk in any form (which would be illegal here, we are a state where raw milk sales are banned).

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  11. I totally lied to my pediatrician about this, and that was about 2 years ago. He absolutely THRIVED on raw milk formula when I had to supplement. Told our ped we were giving him Earth’s Best. NOPE. Even though it’s legal in Pennsylvania, I’m not stupid. I know the rhetoric.

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  12. Nellya Petrovna Canfield via Facebook December 19, 2013 at 9:58 pm

    Crazy! That’s another reason to avoid pediatricians all together, except possibly a yearly well check.

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  13. Tina Mackey via Facebook December 19, 2013 at 10:01 pm

    My daughter thrived on goats milk formula when breast milk (shared from friends) was unavailable. I never dared tell the pedi that we did raw goat milk or milk sharing!
    Leigh, please take into consideration that there are extreme cases in which women cannot breast feed.

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  14. Christine Banford via Facebook December 19, 2013 at 10:02 pm

    I left my peds practice when my son was 3. I changed to a wholistic family dr. that told me not to give my son milk unless it was raw milk. My thinking is if you have to lie to your doctor, you need to get a new doctor.

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  15. Katie 'Lano' Clements via Facebook December 19, 2013 at 10:03 pm

    Because twizzlers and Cheetos ARE 100% acceptable to feed to a growing child but whole natural foods could possibly be dangerous and life threatening…great read, thanks for sharing!

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    • I actually know a young girl who would only feed her son twizzlers and cheetos. Eleven months old and eating candy and garbage. I asked her why she never fed him fruits or veggies. She told me that he doesn’t like them. Really? Called child services on her and they didn’t do anything about it. I am 23 and I don’t even have a child but seeing girls that are younger then I am putting their children through that boggles my mind.

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  16. Chris Nagy via Facebook December 19, 2013 at 10:04 pm

    I might open my mouth just so I could go toe to toe with them. Just try me, this Mom is educated and well studied on it.

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  17. my husband is from Vermont and grew up milking cows. He is actually rather upset that, even if I wanted to drink raw milk, it’s super expensive. He said they used to squirt it at each other and drink it still warm from the cow!

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  18. Yep, it’s a scary and true commentary on our relationships with our pediatricians, not to mention teachers and other caregivers who are being trained to spot and report anything outside the recommended norm. So sad how our mainstream culture is evolving. But, there is hope! There are many following a different health and nutritional way.

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  19. For those using raw milk formula when did you start your infant on it? My first child I was unable to have a good breastmilk supply we want to have a second child but i don’t want to use store formula if my supply is low. Juat would like feedback. I drink raw milk myself

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    • I would have started my newborn on the raw cow milk formula from WAPF instantly if I had known about it. It took me awhile to find it so she was on an organic powdered formula from Whole Foods until I could educate myself and gather everything. Highly recommend it. It’s a lifesaver for any mom who cannot breastfeed!

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    • My son was adopted at two days old and we started him on the cows milk formula as soon as we got him home he has not had a drop of commercial formula since coming home. We are very fortunate to have a close family friend who also gives us breast milk he gets about half of each. He is 2 months now and doing great our pediatrician is impressed. I go to a holistic child center staffed with mostly MDs all they asked me about it was whether the formula had probiotics and vit D i said it did and they left it at that. We LOVE this formula and as adoptive parents are so thankful for it.

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  20. Leigh Gatny Foster, what would you recommend for families who adopt their babies then? Or moms who’s milk supply just will not come in, no matter what they try? Try and be open minded. If breast milk isn’t a possibility, then raw cows milk formula (or goats milk) is then next best thing.

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  21. We saw a new integrative pediatrician yesterday. He said he normally tells all of his patients to avoid all dairy but he is perfectly fine with raw.

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  22. Shannon Conshue via Facebook December 19, 2013 at 10:31 pm

    So glad we live in Mexico and can make these choices for ourselves. The raw goat or cow milk is cheaper then the boxed or jugged stuff in the big stores.

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  23. Heidi Brenneman Dowd via Facebook December 19, 2013 at 10:41 pm

    My grandparents had 8 of their 10 children die before the age of 1. the reason was diarrhrea. they gave their babies non- homogenized milk. They subsequently used a “wet nurse” to feed their children. raw milk can kill. If you can’t breast feed, use homogenized milk. You are taking your babies life in your hands.

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    • I wonder what time was it?
      Here is some interesting facts from the timeline of milk production:
      “In the early 19th century, the alcohol distillery business in the United States began to grow. Large amounts of swill (spent-grains) were produced as a byproduct of whisky and other alcohol production. Many distilleries opened dairies and began feeding their dairy cows with the waste swill. The low nutritional content of the swill lead to sickness in the cows and in the humans who drank their milk.” (from: http://milk.procon.org/view.timeline.php?timelineID=000018)
      The raw milk that this website is talking about produced by responsible farmers that do not use antibiotics or GMO or other bad stuff.
      Sure raw milk can be dangerous if handled un-properly, it is also can be good and nourishing.

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  24. Nicole Daglas Gerrard via Facebook December 19, 2013 at 10:43 pm

    Heidi I think you mean pasteurized. Homogenized is just the process of shaking the milk to death to keep the cream from separating.

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  25. Jessica Thomas via Facebook December 19, 2013 at 10:47 pm

    I suggest just not going to a pediatrician unless you have reason for concern or an emergency. The well baby checkup are just to push vaccines and check for ” neglect”. If you are choosing not to vax then there is little reason to go.

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  26. My daughter did so so well on the homemade raw milk formula! Beautiful and healthy :). Despite having a very supportive pediatrician I always kept a can of store bought organic baby formula in my cabinet in the rare case that someone questioned me or came to my house. It never happened but I felt like I was prepared to do what I had to to keep my baby with me. I have no problem lying to misinformed people to avoid a confrontation.

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  27. As a parent, you are responsible for making informed decisions in the best interest of your child. Recommended health guidelines are made specifically with the best interests of your child in mind. You do not necessarily have to agree with them but you should realize that you are risking your child’s health and increasing their chances of contracting a disease or virus by giving them raw milk. Yes people have lived for thousands of years off of raw animal milk, however it is a different world today. I’m not saying that it’s a bad choice or one that you should not have the power to make, I am merely saying that you should consider all of the possibilities. And as for bashing the pediatricians, who would you go to if your child did come down with something due to your choice to give him or her raw milk? Would you still think the pediatrician is an evil and condescending domineer?

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    • Linda, we do not think all peds are evil. I think it is important to notice that there is a staggering amount of potential dangers out there that we ALL have to navigate. My sister in law was “fired” from her pedi doc, when she asked for a delayed vaccination schedule. Would you say that this pedi doc was evil? No, but he flatly explained that he works for the government and can not care for any patient that won’t adhere to their protocol. Unbelievable. After working at a hospital for 29 yrs, do you think I have ever seen medicine/doctors/nurses/other medical staff/drugs/etc. hurt or kill a patient? You must do your own homework, as it is a parent’s responsibility. I took my daughter to have a tooth filled yesterday and had my dentist, whom I have always had a good relationship with, jump all over me, because I requested not to use amalgams, but something more bio-friendly. Stunned, he told me that I should stop studying and do not concern myself with this. I am reeling from this, as I have a mouth full of amalgams that I can’t affford to take out, and I have adrenal exhaustion, heavy metal issues and numerous other complaints. Don’t I wish my mom and dad had know 40 years ago, and asked that dentist not to put that crap in me? Not trying to be rude, but choose for yourself and STUDY to find out what is best for YOU. That is what freedom means.

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    • “Yes people have lived for thousands of years off of raw animal milk, however it is a different world today.”

      Oh that is true! Dairy farms are so much cleaner now, machinery helps with efficiency and protection against bacteria, animals who ARE sick can be quickly dealt with due to modern veterinary medicine…why, sounds to me like it would be better today to drink raw animal milk than ever before…and if the generations before use lived through raw dairy gathered in worse conditions, think about how much better WE are.

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  28. Allison Alexander via Facebook December 19, 2013 at 11:04 pm

    The thing that gets me is that baby formula ISNT EVEN STERILE! Many times it has had E. coli in it, so the APA and the FDA all need to shove it! Pasteurization isn’t even a full proof sterilization process anyways. Not to mention the waves of radiation they put it through.

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  29. Jessica Thomas via Facebook December 19, 2013 at 11:07 pm

    I did not say they don’t know anything. I said go if you have a concern. I have taken my kids in a couple times for things I felt need their expertise. I don’t feel a bi-yearly/yearly checkup is necessary if there are no health or developmental concerns.

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  30. When we first started seeing our holistic pediatrician, we didn’t realize how great she actually is. We started seeing her so that we could avoid vaccines without fear tactics or constant suggestions to convince us to “wise up.” Our pediatrician actually RECOMMENDS raw milk! My son can’t do much lactose yet, but I use it to make several types of yogurt and milk kefir.
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  31. Thanks for bringing up this important issue! I figured it was a bad idea to alert my daughter’s Ped. about her consuming raw milk and yogurt. I have some important, and bad news to share along those lines.

    Just this week, it was announced that the CDC’s January edition of their Emerging Infectious Diseases Journal will be presenting a new “study” conducted by the Minnesota Dept. of Public Health, which apparently exposes how raw milk is sickening so many Minnesotan children, thus being far more dangerous than *ANYONE* ever imagined. The article will be available to the public next month online (I can send you the link once it’s up), and here’s a link to the synopsis: http://www.cdc.gov/media/eid/2014/1.html
    Also, USA Today did a charming little piece on the study this week.
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/12/11/raw-milk-food-poisoning/3985549/

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    • Thanks for the USAToday link – read it. Read the comments, too, and not everyone is fooled by the propoganda.

      They’re gunning for raw milk……and last week it was for multivitamins!

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  32. Heather McClain via Facebook December 19, 2013 at 11:21 pm

    unfortunately, I think there is more to be hush about than just this topic. so sad. I feel like our rights as parents are being stripped away by the regulations and rules being put into place by the government. :(

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  33. Slightly off the subject matter, but back when I used to take my children to a pediatrician (I avoid them altogether now), I noticed on the intake questionnaire a question if guns were kept in the house. Even back then I instinctively knew not to answer that ” loaded” question.

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  34. Suzanne Simmers Sanderson via Facebook December 19, 2013 at 11:30 pm

    After reading this post and the comments, as some people referenced ethics and starting a petition against the AAP, I think it is unethical to advise anyone not to be honest with their pediatrician…in the slim chance that a baby is ingesting raw anything that is contaminated, and the baby gets sick, and the parents fail to inform their pediatrician, you are putting that babies’ life at risk…as far as comments re; vaccinations, has the incidence of polio, measles, mumps decreased to almost zero….will your child be able to attend school without vaccinations (the answer is no)..disappointed in this post and the seemingly lack of regard for all the lives doctors save and help

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    • Suzanne, you are somewhat naive. If you are “reading” ingratitude in this post toward doctors who are saving lives, you need to re-read with an open mind. Sounds like you have already made up your mind. Hard to get new/good information into a closed mind. Breast milk is raw milk. There are times that not being totally honest with someone, might SAVE your life. Think Nazi Germany. Do not believe that every person of authority has your best interest in mind. Be respectful, but be wise. I have a relative that is a pedi doc and I have the utmost respect for her, not because we agree on everything, but because she genuinely cares. It is that quality that we seek.

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    • Regarding your statement, “will your child be able to attend school without vaccinations (the answer is no) – “, you are ill informed. I don’t claim to know how it is where you live but where I live you can get a religious vaccination exemption from the health department and your children CAN attend school. None of my children (5,8,17) have had any vax and all have attended public school at some point.

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  35. I an not trying to put anyone down. I just don’t understand why those of you who are natural and make things home-made and don’t vaccinate bother going to a medical doctor at all. I too practice these same habits but I have not nor my family been to a doctor in years. We would only go to the E.R. for a broken bone or other emergency medicine. Doesn’t going to a medical doctor open yourself up for any trouble they want to give you when they report to your insurance company, social services, etc…?

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  36. Suzanne, you are either a doctor yourself or married to one, or you don’t research the facts, doctors pockets ARE lined by big pharm, and most definitely pediatricians as thy have the most to gain. Do know how many vaccines children get now days compared to 20 years ago? More than 3 times as many and why is that is all these viruses are being eradicated? This garducil is killing young girls, I personally know one who nearly lost her life due to that poison, and answer me this….why do they need to give a vaccine for cervical cancer to young boys now? When was the last time you knew of a boy or man with a cervix ? Why then do you think this is happening? If you think for one second doctors don’t do this to our children for the money you are out of you mind! I could go on and on, but if you want to tell your doctor by all means do it! But the rest of you I’m sure know better! Well I’m not big business, just a mom and a grandma, and I know better, I could curl your hair with stories, but you go a head and keep living in your fantasy world of wonderful doctors that love everyone and have your best interest at heart, but just know your snow globe may break some day and you will have to face the REAL DEAL!

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    • The vaccine is to prevent the virus HPV (human papilloma virus) which is a major cause if cervical cancer. It is spread through sexual contact and makes most certainly become infected with it and that’s why they are vaccinating males.

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  37. Dr Jatinder Bhatia, MD who is quoted in the AAP’s press release and was an author on the policy statement was on the board of The National Dairy Council (http://www.nationaldairycouncil.org/EducationMaterials/Pages/JatinderBatia.aspx). It appears the National Dairy Council is anti-raw milk (makes sense that Big Dairy would be against this because it hurts their business). Other than AAP being a backward organization that cares about medicine but not health, I’m guessing the only other reason they support this ban is because they have a mutually beneficial relationship with National Dairy Council and/or Big Dairy.

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  38. Barbara Sonin via Facebook December 20, 2013 at 12:41 am

    We have the primary responsibility for our own health and that of our children. Doctors are caring, dedicated people, but the vast majority of them drink whatever the current Koolaid is regarding nutrition, supplements, and prescriptions. Even with a doctor who seems trustworthy and understanding, share only what is necessary for them to carry out proper care. And take all advice with a HUGE grain of salt. Never take a prescription, stop a supplement, or move away from natural foods to packaged ones without doing your own research.

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  39. Lisa Vaught via Facebook December 20, 2013 at 1:21 am

    I am fond of keeping doctors in the dark as many feel my nutritional views are hooey. I even find myself at odds with our naturopath as she opposes eating butter, red meat and dairy.

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  40. Christa Sabin via Facebook December 20, 2013 at 1:24 am

    I grew up on raw milk, didn’t know any different. Don’t drink it now because after my dad sold his cows we bought regular milk from the store. But it’s a shame it’s too expensive to buy here in Cali .

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  41. Julia Scott via Facebook December 20, 2013 at 1:56 am

    I disagree with this article; the whole reason milk is pasteurized is to take care of E. Coli, Salmonella, Listeria, and other harmful bacteria. Round about the time your child starts coming down with sever diarrhea, vomiting and fever, I hope you start singing about the fact that you give your child raw milk to the ER doctor who’s going to be working to save your child’s life. If you, as an adult, want to make the choice to drink raw milk yourself and put yourself at risk, by all means, have at it. But consider what you’re exposing your baby to when you feed him/her unpasteurized milk. People have romanticized ideas about raising their children the way people of the past did (and without vaccines). But the facts remain: Lives are saved by pasteurization and vaccines. Oh, and lying to your Pediatrician is also fairly unwise; how do you know the allergic reaction your child is having to something is not related to the raw milk? Doctors are also scientists and understand compounds and how components of food/medicine affect the body on the cellular level. How much do YOU know about those things? And don’t even get me started on vaccinations…

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    • Julia, you are another of the “thought police” and if you want to decide for you, please do so. STOP trying control the rest of us. You may find out that you are wrong about something…something that could harm you or yours. Quit pointing fingers and do some more research. Educating yourself is not against the law. I am a 29 yr healthcare veteran and I have been on the inside. Watch carefully, as the older healthcare workers are willing to question, but the younger ones often are not. That is how they want it. The truth on most issues is being repressed, and if you don’t believe it, fine. Just stop pushing your opinion on others. That is the real issue. Who gets to decide? Are you the authority on your family? You should be, unless you show yourself unfit. That is freedom.

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    • I live in France – the country of raw milk cheeses….we’re still around. Based on your ‘research’, we shouldn’t be.

      We’re also the country of meat eating and low heart attacks. The French Paradox may not only be about the wine….

      There’s something to be said about the live enzymes in raw milk products. It has significantly helped my asthma.

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    • You have noticed that the author may get monetary payment from products she endorses (just like the “Big Pharma” she despises). And she has a disclaimer that her blog does not substitute for medical advice from doctors. Why need this disclaimer?

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  42. If you know your source for the raw milk, you should be fine. The concern is the commercially produced raw milk. It CAN be unsafe in that situation. My theory is that if I know the cow’s name, and can shake the farmer’s hand, it is likely very safe. When you go to the grocery store, you are agreeing to take your chances.

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  43. Jessica Thomas via Facebook December 20, 2013 at 3:52 am

    I do not think all doctors are bad, I actually think most of them mean well, but who do you think controls what they are taught? Big pharma! You dad sounds like a wonderful doctor. In today’s day and age it is harder to find a doctor who hasn’t been brainwashed by big pharma. I live in a rural area and don’t have a whole lot if options for pediatricians. When my son was born I had to drive 2 hrs for his newborn screening, just to find a pediatrician I trusted.

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  44. Robin Kelman via Facebook December 20, 2013 at 5:42 am

    There have always been things to keep to yourself in dealing with Pediatricians, or family members, for decades if you don’t follow mainstream thinking. I learned to take the antibiotic scripts just not fill them, not mention my daughter was on raw goats milk after age 2 and many others, shes now 27. We only did limited vaccinations and even then some Dr. would not see you because of. At least now you have the support of the online community to find other like minded individuals.

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  45. Olichka Russian via Facebook December 20, 2013 at 6:34 am

    For generation people relied on raw milk and were healthier than we are right now. Because pediatrics sign an agreements with pill and formula companies they will do anything to push it on others just to receive their commissions. I say find a right pediatric who would support your beliefs and guide you in supportive direction as we all know mother is the best doctor for her child.

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  46. Lisa Schrafft via Facebook December 20, 2013 at 7:38 am

    This is incredible. Lie to your doctor by omission, then get pissed and sue them when they have trouble trying to figure out what could be wrong with your kid when they finally do get sick. Makes total sense.

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  47. I am so blessed to have a holistic family doctor who loves to hear these things and whenever we are there we’re always in a passionate discussion about avoiding GMOs, using natural remedies, etc. Of course, we so seldom go to the doctor at all for anything because this lifestyle enables us to care for our children at home and not run to him for every sniffle, but it’s great to have his years of expertise as a conventional MD, coupled with his conversion of his entire lifestyle and practice to holistic approaches. He no longer takes our insurance though, so our trips there will be few and far between now. The great thing is he does consult over the phone for simple questions :) I’m still on the hunt for a holistic pediatrician that will take our insurance though, our previous one moved to Dr. Tennpenny’s center a while ago.

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  48. I work in EMS. I see the fine work of doctors daily. No thanks. I’m ok with being my families doctor. It’s not hard. Getting an education in allopathic AND holistic medicine isn’t hard and you can do it yourself, despite what Harvard may tell you. It is pointless to argue with people who are set living a life full of lies.

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  49. I would think it would be a no brainer that if you can’t tell your doctor things like this, you should seriously re-think bringing your child to them in the first place???…

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  50. On the topic of lying (outright or by omission) to the pediatrician…. keep in mind that once your kids get to be a certain age (in our case it was around age 14), the doctor may want to see your teens alone, in order to question them about “private” things, such as what goes on in your household that the child may not wish to share “in front of the parent.” My kids have been asked about their sexuality, whether or not I abuse them, if I drink alcohol and get drunk, if I do drugs, if my boyfriend makes them uncomfortable, if they have any “concerns” about me, and whether or not we have guns in our house. So if your kids are too young for that now, start thinking ahead to how you intend to handle this, once they are older. You may wish to have conversations with your children about which types of questions are overly intrusive, and how to avoid answering them but still getting the most out of a doctor visit. In our case, my children had “questions about the questions” and they and I discussed ourselves, what they had been asked by the doctor. As well as how to keep private things private, and repercussions about expressing “concerns” to doctors and school counselors, teachers, etc. This is a very tough one because sure, if my kids are being abused by anyone (including me! which they are not) I would want them to be free to go to “a trusted adult” for help. But these days, over-zealous reporting to CPS is much more likely to happen, and that is how innocent, loving families get investigated and children removed from parents.

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  51. Hey, Suzanne!
    You CAN put your unvaccinated child in school. Most states have waiver forms to sign stating your religious, philosophical, or medical reasons not to give shots. This even works for college.

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  52. lesley from kent (UK) December 20, 2013 at 11:36 am

    I breastfed my kids until they were nearly at school – and didn’t dare let anyone know. By the time they were 4 – it was only an evening comfort feed, but boy did it comfort them. They loved the closeness of it – and, I fear, that was very very definitely totally raw and unpasteurised.
    I love this blog – an episode of sanity in a mad, mad world.

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  53. Argh … So frustrating… I tried so hard to nurse child #1, and just could not produce enough to keep her happy. It was a horrible cycle of trying to also pump, comfort a not totally satiated baby, no sleep and no talk about a REAL diet for a new mom. I made it to 13 months, barely, since she was eating whole foods by then. When child #2 came, the cycle started all over again, and I surrendered to the fact I needed help to supplement. Fortunately someone steard me toward Weston price and the rest is history. Everyone’s health has improved, and I watch all of my immediate family members struggle with ill health. They think I’m crazy that I only buy pastured eggs! What’s wrong with the super market??? Ha! Ladies- NOT ALL OF US can PRODUCE enough milk for our babies no matter how badly we want to!!!! I am a living example. Ignore the propaganda, it’s not in your individual best interest anyways. It’s for the masses who don’t care or don’t have the RESOURCES to care. Find the best supplementation possible- whether raw milk based or top-notch organic formula.

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  54. My mother breastfed my older brother, but had such poor nutrition she couldn’t breastfeed my two older brothers and myself. We drank cow’s milk and the cow was milked in the barn. Grandma poured the warm milk thru cheese cloth into a churn for her butter and buttermilk and the rest she put into gallon jugs and put into the ice box.
    She didn’t have a refrigerator, just the ice box and it was a fascinating thing to watch the man deliver the ice and all those things are long gone. But, what they had back then was common sense and cleanliness. We all went to the same family doctor from the cradle to the grave and no specialists were needed. That said, it’s a shame you have to lie to your doctor, but if it’s to protect your child, so be it. There is too much government intrusion in our lives already.

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  55. We recently changed to a holistic pedi who is great and totally in line with the whole no vax or alternative vax schedule, which we were please about. But doesn’t wants us to not to feed dairy to our children irregardless of raw/not. Which I don’t get?

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  56. Connie Wilson Sauceda via Facebook December 20, 2013 at 3:16 pm

    I try and keep my doctor in the dark on most things that don’t really seem any of his business. Just remember nothing is private anymore. With O’care it will get even worse.

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  57. This story is totally true. I speak from experience. My story goes like this; I went to a new pediatrician who was recommended to me by a friend whose husband is a doctor. She knew of my lifestyle choices and thought he would be more open to my unconventional parenting decisions. I was seeking a new pediatrician because I was tired of my current one’s angry lectures and scare tactics as a result of my continuing refusal to vaccinate my 2 little boys. So, I tried out the new guy. He was nice. He seemed open. We could actually calmly and throughly discuss issues, which I had not had with my now previous doctor. I was seeing him for my new baby who was born a little on the small side as a result of a malformed placenta and velamentous cord insertion. I was exclusively breastfeeding. He is baby #5, so I was very familiar with newborn behavior, development, nursing, the whole thing. There was no doubt in my mind that he was right on track developmentally; he was holding his head up, he was alert, he nursed like a champ. He was just tiny. After a few visits for weight follow ups, the new doctor was also not satisfied with the weight my baby was gaining, and wanted me to put him on commercial formula to help “get him over the hump” and “give him more volume.” I expressed my many legitimate concerns about this, we had a good discussion, but in the end, that was his strong recommendation. His nurse even sent me home with a half dozen cans of newborn formula in a nice zippered tote bag. I brought the formula home, but could not bring myself to give him any. I finally decided that if I simply MUST give him regular formula, I at least wanted it to be organic. So I called my local WalMart, and they said they carried one brand of organic infant formula. I went and bought it, brought it home, and gave my baby a bottle. I felt sick about it, and began to look on Sarah’s site, which is always my first go-to place for any questions or concerns I have about anything, as well as for recipes and things. Thankfully never disappointing, I found her wonderful video and recipe for the homemade raw milk formula. I was so excited and immediately called the woman who owns the farm food store where I buy my organic food and get my raw milk, and asked her about the homemade raw milk formula. She said she had all the ingredients in her store, and that she has other customers who make it and have had success with it as well. I finally felt good, that if I had to give my baby formula, that at least it could be something I could feel good about giving him. She also gave me some wonderful literature from an issue of Wise Traditions, including a self perspective write up by Sally Fallon Morrell that really gave me a heavy and emotional slice of humble pie about why breastfeeding simply does not work for some women. But that’s another story………..

    The next visit in to the new doctor, I was feeding my baby a bottle of the homemade raw milk formula. The nurse was very pleased that I was feeding him the formula and asked about it. I happily shared that I had found a recipe for the raw milk formula that allowed both me and the doctor to feel good- I was giving my baby formula like he wanted, but it was a formula that I could give him with a clear conscience. But when the doctor came in, he was not sharing my joy. We began having another lengthy conversation, this one ending with the ultimatum that either I stop giving my baby the raw milk formula and switch back to the store formula immediately, or he could no longer be my doctor. I understood where he was coming from, and was hoping he would be as equally as understanding of me, and I thanked him for everything, told him it was nice meeting him, and left his office feeling good that I once again did what I felt was the best thing for my baby.

    A few weeks pass, and I get a call from his nurse. She was friendly, and said they were wondering how the baby was doing, and if I ever wanted to come in for a free weight check just to check on his progress, that I could do so at any time. She sounded nice enough, so I decided why not? I had not been to another doctor or had him weighed since the last visit, so I thought I would like to see where he was at myself. I stopped by not long after that. Never saw the doctor, just her. She was still friendly. She asked if I was still giving him “my mixture.” I told her I was. She weighed him. He had gained a little. I was pleased. She seemed pleased too. She gave me more commercial formula and we said good bye. I thought everything would be fine. She saw him. He had gained weight. I thought I was all clear. Then a few days later, I get a message from a lady from my County Health Department. She had gotten a call from the new pediatrician and wanted to do a home visit to check on my son. I was so angry. And so scared. I had read stories on Sarah’s blog about parents getting their babies taken away for refusing to vaccinate or follow conventional “wisdom.” I was terrified thinking that that could be me too. I didn’t know what I would do. She came. We had a good visit. She did everything that the doctors did in the well baby checks. The only low mark he got was for gross motor because he didn’t hold his head up as high as her developmental chart said he should. My husband explained that since we don’t have carpet, we don’t like to put him on the floor much. She seemed satisfied with that. I was still scared, thinking that that didn’t help my case. But she left. Without my son. That was about 4 months ago. I haven’t heard from her since. But I now live in fear that she will one day pop back in my life again. She will decide that he is still too small, that she doesn’t like that we still haven’t had him vaccinated yet, that I could still lose my child. He is now a healthy, happy, sweet 7 month old boy. I still nurse him, and still occasionally give him the raw milk formula. With the exception of those one or two bottles of regular formula I regrettably gave him way back when, he has not had any junk penetrate his body outside of some things that I eat or drink that he gets through nursing. He is proudly my only baby to be 100% UN vaccinated, even with vitamin K. But I will always live in fear that with the way things continue to go with our system and parents losing their rights of their choices for their children, that I will forever be a target as long as I continue to not vaccinate my 2 younger sons and not take them to regular doctor visits. That makes me believe that our country is no longer “land of the free.” And it’s really very sad.

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  58. We are blessed that we have a holistic-minded pedi!
    It wasn’t until I read her book that I realized she used to practice conventional medicine. This woman survived 9 back surgeries and breast cancer-followed by a double mastectomy! Her book is an amazing tale of how changing her lifestyle saved her life and why she practices the way she does.
    Check it out!
    http://www.amazon.com/How-The-Chiropractor-Saved-Life/dp/0982598815/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1387577395&sr=8-1&keywords=how+the+chiropractor+saved+my+life
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  59. First, I highly support healthy lifestyle choices that do not always reflect what the AAP or FDA chooses. That being said, although raw goats milk is closest to human milk, it does have a high sodium content that may cause adverse reactions later in life with the liver. If there is EVER a question of infant nutrition, please consult an IBCLC.

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  60. Madalene Kesner via Facebook December 20, 2013 at 7:04 pm

    I’m considering reporting you to the health dept. You are a menace & are putting the health of children, sick & elderly people in deathly danger. You have no idea the consequences of what you’re doing! I feel so sorry for you & all those you’re advising!!!

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  61. Lori Stevens-Nicholas via Facebook December 20, 2013 at 7:13 pm

    I would have liked to have seen a disclaimer at the end of this saying that if there is something wrong with your child that they are having trouble diagnosing that you do need to tell your Dr at that point.

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  62. Wendy Miller Standridge via Facebook December 20, 2013 at 7:18 pm

    By super small I mean we dont have one in our town at all. we drive 40 miles to the one we see. There are 2 to choose from there. 20 miles the other direction one has 4 to choose from. 15 miles south one would have 2. I live in rural Texas where folks think its pretty normal to actually do this sort of thing (“live off the land” so to speak). i hope I don’t get lashed out at. Some people on this thread are getting rather persnickety with others who don’t agree with them.

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  63. The problem here is that there is no practical way to establish the health benefits, while there are demonstrable risks of serious life threatening disease. Is this simply another example of a naturalistic falacy – that because something is less processed it must be better for you? Are parents going to accept responsibility when their child contracts tuberculosis or diphtheria from drinking raw milk?

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    • There certainly is a “practical way to establish the health benefits” of raw milk. It’s called research. Problem is… no one is going to pay for it. Big dairy obviously paid off the APP. I’m sure they’re behind all the studies against raw milk. There’s no money for any big business to make by proving the health benefits of raw milk.

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  64. My niece’s physician took her baby off of organic formula that she had switched to, and back onto the GMO version: imagine that!

    But then the little guy wasn’t doing well, and a nurse had her go back onto organic.

    What’s going on with doctors? Are they willfully ignorant, or pressured into giving bad advise?

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  65. Peoples Laundry via Facebook December 21, 2013 at 6:05 am

    Nourishing a child should not be a conspiracy. If you’re going to hide what you feeding your child then you should ask yourself why you are hiding it. Dishonesty is never a good idea when it comes to your child’s health. Your doctor should be involved in all aspect of what you feed them as food is what promotes wellness and growth and that is one of the tools he /she uses to measure the health of your child and thereby prescribe meds and treatment that are compatible with foods your child takes in.

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    • Did you miss the part in the article where women have had their babies taken away because they were honest with the pediatrician about what they’re feeding?

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  66. I just couldn’t keep quiet here. The secret to nutrition whether in milk or other foods is the word RAW. There may not be as many vitamins in raw goats milk as there is in the fortified vitamin enriched formulas but there doesn’t need to be. The vitamins found in raw foods are natural and are easily absorbed and utilized by the body which means that the volume of vitamins can be substantially less and yet do a superior job at providing nutrition. The problem with the the enriched formulas occurs because the vitamins are failed attempts to chemically mimic the very complex natural system of nutrition found in raw foods. Cooking and pasteurizing foods easily destroys the fragile vitamins and enzymes found in raw foods. The chemical knock off vitamins aren’t that fragile but the body doesn’t know what to do with what I consider to be a chemical poison. Just my two cents

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  67. My baby is 15 months and thankfully, I’m still breastfeeding while she transitions to solids. She’s been to the pediatrician only once in her life when she was a few weeks old, and it was a disaster when he told me she wasn’t gaining enough, and gave me a prescription for a pill that is meant for nausea during pregnancy with a side effect of producing more milk! Can you imagine? I was disgusted and went home crying that I wasn’t providing enough for my baby. With lactation help and proper nutrition, I was able to increase my supply, and help my daughter improve her suck, which turned out to be the main problem.

    The only reason I went in the first place was because some people I really trust pushed me to, and told me I won’t feel calm until a doctor sees her and tells me everything is okay. Do you think its important for us to have a pediatrician and/or bring our baby for well check ups? I prefer to avoid them completely, but seeing this blog makes me wonder if there’s a good reason that i’m not aware of.

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  68. Well Suzanne if you so choose to have these beliefs that up to you , I don’t care one hoot about all your nonsense, anything written by MDs is a waste of my time, as far as risks, I’ll pass on trusting most doctors…. They are too much of a risk for free thinking, educated people. As far as all there schooling, they receive no education on nutrition, real nutrition, they would rather push bottle feeding on a mother than take the time with a poor woman having trouble and teach her all the natural way to increase her my supply or why all those vaccines are killing children rather than helping. Putting helmets on infants so they can make an extra buck, my list could go on and on……so I happy you’re happy, but no amount of articles written MDs will ever chance my mind.
    Merry Christmas

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  69. Sarah, I am a new subscriber to your wonderful blog as a result of a gal in Fla. sending me a very interesting article. I now light up every time I see your blog – with joy that is! I am an expat Canadian living in Denmark and my daughter, doing diabetic research in Copenhagen, is about to have her second lovely daughter any day now. I’m going to include your blog as a sort of ‘stocking stuffer’ for her! As for doctors at any level, one can’t be too careful these days! The first thing they don’t understand is that medicine is NOT a science, but rather an evolving process of trial and error! A Very Merry Christmas to you and yours from a Happy Reader in Denmark!

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  70. I’ve been giving my daughter raw milk since she was 3 (she’s 8 now). One of the best moves I ever made. I was fortunate for a period of time that she had an incredible pediatrician that was not anti raw milk. Of course, I knew the docs position on natural products ahead of time before mentioning anything. Unfortunately, the pediatrician is not practicing in a pediatric office anymore because of many road blocks by peers,. So when I discuss milk with the new pediatrician, I just say it’s whole milk. It’s a shame that we can’t feed our children completely healhy nutritious food without being criticized. But hey, all of that GMO, preservative laden, multicolored dead food is better for us, right? (said with much sarcasm)

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  71. Milk is very nutritious. It has tons of great stuff in it. That’s why we feed it to our babies. However, the nutritious qualities of milk also make it a great environment for other things like E. coli, TB, and other pathogens. Pasteurization is just a way of heating up the milk to reduce the number of these pathogens so your baby doesn’t get sick. It’s so hard trying to figure out what’s best with all of these different sources telling us to do different things. I mean what does raw even mean? I would never eat raw meat or eggs. I mean all these words like raw, natural, ect SOUND good, but what are they even really telling us about how safe or effective these things are?

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    • Jpseph, if you study, you will find that people are getting E.coli, Salmonella, etc. from food that is purchased from grocery stores and fast food places. The odds of getting something from those places is astronomically higher than raw milk. It is important not to be a fear monger, and know the real facts. I am willing to bet that most moms are dead serious about protecting their kids and relentless to find the truth about that. I am. I have worked with senior citizens for 30 yrs and guess what? A huge number of them drank RAW MILK! Often, it saved their lives. Start asking some older folks..they have wisdom to share.

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      • You are comparing apples to oranges (raw milk vs literally every other kind of food) in terms of disease risk. If you compare raw milk to pasteurized milk then its clear that raw milk has more risks associated with it.

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      • You see I just don’t know about all this. The article from the AAP says, “From 1998 to 2009, consumption of raw milk products in the U.S. resulted in 1,837 illnesses, 195 hospitalizations, 93 illness outbreaks, and two deaths.” It seems like consuming raw foods are opening children up for unnecessary infections for the sake of trying to live an all natural life style. As for talking to older folks about this the article says, “Before pasteurization of milk began in the United States in the 1920s, consumption of raw dairy products accounted for a significant proportion of foodborne illnesses among Americans, and resulted in hundreds of outbreaks of tuberculosis and other serious infections” Again, I’m risking my child getting TB because a farmer made a mistake or I made a mistake storing it. The risk of these terrible infections just don’t seem to be worth the risk for marginally more vitamins/pro-biotics.

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  72. I just wanted to say that after having a placental abruption, I asked my OB/GYN what I could do next time diet-wise to minimize the risk. She actually told me to drink raw milk! :) Of course, she did back up my home birth, so she is open-minded. Not all doctors are bad, but definitely be careful!

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  73. I don’t think this kind of advice should be given out by someone with no real medical experience. Lying to your doctor (even lies of omission) can make it hard to diagnose illnesses properly when they occur, and it makes it impossible for your doctor to advise you of the risks of a choice or signs of a complication.

    I also wonder how responsible people here would feel if a woman took the advice on this website, and contracted toxoplasmosis during their pregnancy from raw milk. Or if a baby contracted listeria. What then? I’m not asking about legal liability either, I am asking about moral responsibility.

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  75. So let me get this straight, you feel so right about something that you need to lie about it rather than provide evidence based studies to support your decisions. And you may collect monetary payment to help support your website from these products that you are “recommending” to the gullible. Even Consumers Reports and Angie’s List do not accept payment from products and services industry so as to not sound biased in their recommendations.

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  76. It is so scary to think of how SS can take your child away just for trying to make healthy choices! I only take my baby girl to a chiropractor every few months because I am honestly scared to risk that by going to a pedi. My daughter is in the 95% percentile for height & head circumference & average on weight. She is a totally healthy healthy baby & I couldn’t be more proud! We breastfeed, but I love the idea of using raw milk instead of formula ….heck anything is better than that stuff!! I will send your recipe to a new mom who is having to supplement at nights. (i cringe just thinking about it) :)
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  77. I had a wonderful pedi, he supported me and was encouraging even when he disagreed w/ some choices I made for my son (delayed vaccination), and I was very open w/ him. I think I mentioned the raw milk one time when my son was a year and we were trying it out. But it didn’t make the notes or start a conversation. I transferred to him when my first child was 6 weeks old and absolutely trusted and loved him and we enjoyed every visit.

    When he was doing the 3 year appt for my 3rd child, I remember saying “She’s mostly drinking milk for her calories. She doesn’t eat a whole lot, but tries a little of everything. I figure the milk is doing it’s job.” and he looked at me w/ all seriousness and a hint of a smile and said “You feed your children raw milk, don’t you?” I gasped, I hadn’t been HIDING it, but oh no! Caught keeping my kids super healthy and beautiful and w/ the questionable raw milk (I had just been through a state wide ban on buying clubs and helped organize an event around the hearing, etc.). He went on (seeing my frozen face) “I tried it this summer in Maine and it was AMAZING. Where do you get it here?”

    He was an anomaly among Dr’s, and I’ve not had the blessing since moving of finding a Dr w/ such an open mind and willingness to consider other options. I totally believe you should be direct and honest w/ your care providers to have the best possible care, but that only works if your care provider actually has the wisdom and understanding to use the information you give to them wisely. Which is not even usually the case. I think parents have to exercise caution in trusting medical professionals if they are wise and discerning. For their child’s safety and that of their family. But if we can start supporting professionals who are able to really think and approach their clients with a scientific and respectful view, then by all means, lets weed out those medical professionals who can’t learn to really think but can only spout propaganda.

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  78. It is simply amazing to me that these so-called specialists would rather have children fed manmade foodstuffs such as high fructose corn syrup, Crisco (originally meant as an industrial lubricant) and/or margarine, etc.

    My heart goes out to the Amish, the Mennonites and anyone still owning and operating their own dairy. It must be absolutely horrific to have to deal with such ‘professional’ idiots.

    Having grown up in the ’70s in Midwest America, I can look back and see how our country set off on the wrong foot to imbibe such lies as the ones I’ve read on this site. Our country is in a most deplorable situation and I truly hope that somehow, someway we can get back to where we really need to be.

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  79. Wow. I cannot believe what I just read. I am a 50 year old woman who by choice never had children and this is just one more reason that I’m glad that I didn’t. I’m in shock. I never knew this. How can these doctors tell you what to feed your children!? I watched a documentary film on cancer that I had purchased from Dr. Mercola’s website and my husband and I just couldn’t believe that the doctors and the state would take a way their child and put the parents in jail for them choosing not to harm their child by giving only natural treatments and not radiation and chemotherapy. This seriously, is just one more thing that scares me about our world. I’m sorry that you mothers who are doing the best for you thriving child are having to deal with these conventional doctors that will report you to social services. I’m in shock. Question: If you cannot trust your conventional pediatrition, how do you find out how to care for the baby, feed the baby, skin care for baby, homeopothy for baby, etc? I know, some of you may be laughing at that question, but I never had children, and I’m totally against vaccines and hospital births and such, regular soaps and denatured food. It feels really good to me to know where my food comes from–my farmer.

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  80. Courtney Purcell Shaughnessy via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 11:42 am

    I can not stand the Skeptical OB. I stay away from that website. It’s nothing but fear mongering.

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  81. Crystalina Ketterman via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 11:47 am

    We’re vegan. Don’t tell your doc that, either unless you want to hear all about that doc’s ignorance of plant-based nutrients.

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  82. Kerry Boulware via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 11:49 am

    More like just avoid! No need to lie because I have no reason to go. My baby just turned one, has been on raw milk formula since day one (adopted) and has not been sick one day of his life! No fever, nothing! So no need to even step foot in a peds office. And if I had to take him somewhere, a peds office would be the last place!

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  83. Julie Jabaley Wilborn via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 11:49 am

    Hilarious. The entire article is so wanton for logic that it is embarrassing for an educated “professional” to have written it. It begs the question: if these excellent protocols, policies, and professionals were truly doing their job and caring for people and their overall health, why on earth would people be running from it in droves, and the more educated the faster they are running??? Necessity is the mother of invention.

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  84. Bethany Leisure via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 11:49 am

    Wow she’s so hateful, and she discuses how they took the boy away to prevent illness. That’s like arresting someone for a crime they may or may not commit in the future. Can’t she see the oppression?

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  85. Rhonda Skeens Weishampel via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 11:53 am

    Why are doctors so ready to believe any government study or think they know what’s best for people? I would think doctors would realize the government and food industry are hand in hand making us dat and unhealthy for the sake of money.

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  86. Sarah, I want to take this opportunity to thank you for all that you are doing to bring such important information and issues to light. I have learned so much from following your blog. It is not easy to be the messenger, especially when those currently benefiting from people being in the dark think they have so much to lose. I applaud your efforts and consider thought leaders like you so important to the awakening happening all over the world relating to people taking control over their own health and freedom.

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  87. Brandy Mills via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 11:56 am

    I can’t handle reading this article. I wish she would be honest and tell how many people these highly trained doctors killed last year or spinach even. And how many did responsibly sourced raw milk sicken and kill? Not quite as many…why isn’t she bemoaning eating melons or salad?

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  88. WOW! I’d sure like to know where this VERY MISINFORMED dr practices? This is exactly why I distrust/like drs….they are not educated in nutrition only what lines their pockets…this is the perfect example!
    I’m so very thankful to you Sarah for all you do, that letter caused my BP to elevate a bit, meet to eat some beets, oh wait maybe I should go get some meds from another misinformed MD!

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  89. She is simply the product of her education. She doesn’t even mention how pasteurized milk is often laden with hormones and antibiotics. My pediatrician actually supports raw milk, real food and my decision to regarding vaccinations. But in the past with other doctors I have definitely felt that they don’t need to know everything.

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  90. Tracy AndDustin via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 11:57 am

    We actually avoid the doctor. I’m with them 24/7, they’re with them 10 minutes – who knows more? lol Off to the doctor for things we can’t handle – stitches breaks – ugh – I’m just not good with injuries… but as far as health, we stay away from fast food/ eat lots of raw things, stay on top of health, stay away from sugar (as much as we can, dern kids!), get outside, and fight the good fight.

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  91. Shannon Madsen Bohr via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 11:57 am

    Keep doing what you are doing. The truth angers people. She omits many facts from her article like the number of people who fall ill from pastured products each year.

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  92. Kathleen Rose via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 11:59 am

    although I understand what you are saying regarding raw milk and really have no major issue with it, I also find that telling people not to tell their doctors things for fear of CPS also creates fear mongering. In many cases CPS is there to help families who are struggeling.. CPS does not “take away your children” the court does. I think care needs to be taken when making these broad statements.

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  93. Rebekkah Smith via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 12:03 pm

    Well, luckily, over here in South Carolina where raw milk is super legal, my pediatrician is supportive and many of the nurses at his office drink raw milk. :)

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  94. Amy Dewire via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 12:06 pm

    Anyone familiar with that blog knows it’s all sensationalism and twisting of words. Always has been, always will be. That’s the only reason she has a following, people love drama.

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  95. CPS is getting to be like the new IRS sticking their noses where they need not be, I have a huge problem with them, and it only takes one small detail for a good smart parent to lose their children because SOMEONE else feels they should be raising their children for them. Never lie, Sarah NEVER said to lie, but she is soooooo right on about not volunteering the info. It’s non of the dr business if you choose to feed your kids raw milk and organics, drs still tell you to eat low fat diets and we know that foolish! So don’t kid yourself about the good ole CPS, yes there is a need but they have become to big for their own britches

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  96. Jen Ward via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 12:08 pm

    Is this the skeptical OB? She is not currently licensed to practice medicine- hasn’t been for over 20 years. She comes of as insane in a lot of her diatribes.

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  97. Michelle Norah via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 12:09 pm

    So… If you feed your child CONTAMINATED food that child will get sick? Well, gee, that’s an amazing revelation.

    All the things she lists in her rebuttal are true, you can get very sick from contaminated milk. But you can get equally sick from contaminated spinach, meat, melon, peanut butter and a host of other foods that have had recalls in the last couple years.

    Oh yes, feed your child soy formula. That’s far better than formula made from milk…. *sarcasm*

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  98. You rock Sarah! Keep on fighting the good fight! It is easy to see the difference between your article and the “doctor’s”. You identify with other caring mothers, whereas the crabby, know it all doc identifies with other crabby, know it all docs. The question is who truly has the children’s best interest in mind and to me the answer is clear..their mothers!

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  99. Sarah 'Duncan' Zimmerman via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 12:13 pm

    I usually agree with almost everything your write — including this article. I went and read her article about you and in her comments was a link to cases where people have either died or gotten extremely ill from e.coli tainted raw milk. Until that link, I hadn’t seen that anywhere. What is your response to that article? I have been wanting to switch over to raw milk (once we can afford it), but now I’m wondering about the safety! I realize these are rare cases compared to all the benefits of it — but I don’t want my kids to be a ‘rare case’.

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  100. Well visits are a big waste of time and money! If the child fell and need stitches or lord forbid something far worse then yes by all means, but REALLY just to see how much they weigh and listen to the dr rattle on about stuff you don’t believe in, it’s a waste of your time and insurance money!

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  101. Sarah Zimmerman, if you want to read or google raw milk you really should, BUT DO NOT use Web MD as they are still in the dark ages. Natural news is a good source and I highly recommend it! It changed my mind for ever. I will God WILLING never go back! Please do your research but do it wisely!

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  102. Olga G. Rivero via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 12:18 pm

    OH WOW! I really could care less where she received her degrees, or how, as a professional she thinks she has the final say in how I know what is best for my child. Her MD status has and always will be my employee, nothing more than an opinion given. In a nut shell the public needs to better define any medical professions position in this world. Stop allowing the medical community to make decisions for you in regards to becoming knowledgable for your child’s sake! You, as the public need to understand, they work for you! Stop letting the medical community bully you into doing something that will harm your child, or you!

    Due to health related issues 3 years ago I could not produce breast milk(even with natural help) a very sad day for me, but if it was not for Sarah’s help, I do not know what I would have done. The homemade formula was my answered prayer.

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  103. Jodie Hagan via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 12:21 pm

    I just read about how a pediatrician bullied a family into the Hep B shot.she said if they didn’t do the shot she’d call CPS and have the baby taken away. They did the shot.

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  104. Rebecca Girouard via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 12:25 pm

    I’ve heard there is a refusal to treat patients who don’t comply, all for “legal” reasons… time for self care.

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  105. Holly Walsh via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 12:26 pm

    yes, what i tell my doctor about what happens IN MY HOME is definitely a need-to-know basis!!! this doctor is a total arrogant dick.. no wonder people lie to her. the only thing shes a professional in is NAME CALLING AND BULLYING!! are you sure she isnt working for a pharma company??

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  106. Rachel Boehmer via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 12:26 pm

    The whole thing about the government taking away children is getting scary. I will not vax, i will make formula, i will drink raw milk, I will eat healthy and I will not let the gvt run my life.

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  107. She just answered her own question. Many people would lie to avoid oppressive twats like her who, unfortunately, are in positions of authority. Our society is structured to appoint positions of power to those less suited to the task and these are the results.

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  108. Oh my crazy!!! You don’t have to tell the doctor everything remember they work for you!! And they are practicing on you and your children and they don’t know everything, And at many times misinformed …case and point when I was young 19 had my 2 child the doctor’ mind you told me to give her conduced milk with karo syrup !!! (Gasp) and I did I was young and uninformed !!!! And to this day she has many issues with her stomach and so on!!! So get informed and make your own choices on what’s best for you are your family. I have learned so much from Sarah and I am very thankful of her site and info!!!

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  109. Susan Faia Eaton via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 12:48 pm

    Poor Amy Tuteur, MD. I have precious time with my healthy kids that drink Raw Milk and love the WAP diet and won’t even waste my time reading her rebuttal. Maybe when I want a good laugh and have some time I will but not today.Thanks Sarah for all you do. You are the best.

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  110. People must look elsewhere than USA for truth… In my country everyone drank raw milk when I lived there..when I was told that raw milk is illegal here in Michigan I thought they were joking!!! But ofcourse here in good o USA cows no longer are fed their natural diet, so yes I would heat the crap out of that milk too if I chose to drink that… People sadly are very disattached from nature… We will not see change unless we start learning from nature and teaching that to our kids!

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  111. Michelle Norah via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 12:58 pm

    And yes, CPS can take your children. Short term until court, but while they have custody any number if things can happen.

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  112. Stefanie Jones via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 1:03 pm

    This is crazy. Sorry Sarah for that misguided rebuttal. We are proud of what you do and very glad you do it. Don’t let them get to you :)

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  113. Teodora Nutas via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 1:07 pm

    I always say that if you can’t inform people and make a change in good in their life, don’t scare/put fear in others. What a shame. Don’t even bother!!! You are great in what you bring to us!!! Keep up the good work!!!

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  114. Sandy Lasoff Polentes via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 1:07 pm

    a lion never loses sleep over the opinions of sheep!! Keep spreading awareness, Sarah!

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  115. Deb Holter via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 1:10 pm

    The only problem the AMA ever “fixed” for me was a broken leg. they are great at emergency medicine, but for real healing turn to diet, exercise and holistic healers.

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  116. Karleen Wiley Mauldin via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 1:11 pm

    “disease laden natural products” — Wow. That’s quite a “doctor knows ALL” statement there, isn’t it? Perhaps she’d rather you stick to Chicken Nuggers & Pepsi.

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  117. SawlFamily Matt Bogusia Sawl via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 1:16 pm

    The society gets sicker and sicker.
    I am sure this is due to people consuming raw milk and `unsafe` natural foods.
    Of course it isn`t due to all the garbage officially approved by all knowing authorities and `experts` like her :-/
    She is control freaks` advocate

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  118. Zoina Konomi via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 1:33 pm

    she is not worried why would someone take a “random” persons advice to lie or hide information instead of trusting an expert like herself! i guess she is missing the point again…fyi she is really boring and repetitive :) don’t even bother with her :P

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  119. Jodie Hummel Godush via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 1:42 pm

    The venomous attitude of her writing alone disqualifies her from being seen as an impartial fact finder to me! You must have confused her with the facts, because she sure has it all wrong!

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  120. BarryandYanna Griffin via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 1:46 pm

    Disease laden natural products?! LOL Really?! It’s a wonder we made it this far as a race eating that trash. But now that we eat FDA approved nutritious foods we are so healthy.

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  121. Tracy Beteta via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 1:50 pm

    This doctor sickens me. I couldn’t even finish reading the entire article. She thinks that we are all a bunch of illiterates. I know that she is more of the problem than the solution. It’s just sad that people will believe her because she has M.D. behind her name and her article may turn parents away from nourishing their children with raw milk.

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  122. Vike Sandiford via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 2:12 pm

    She’s coming from an industrialized medicine viewpoint and her mind is shut tight. she probably still believes in sterilized karo syrup formula. don’t worry about her.

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  123. Kim Sankey Nikolai via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 2:13 pm

    I am astounded by the stupidity of Dr Amy! She is even more close minded than my own sister who is a Registered Dietician, feeds her family processed foods and won’t listen to a word anyone has to say about whole foods much less raw milk.

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  124. I’ve always found myself somewhere between slightly amused, curious, and a little scared when I see this combination of an absence of logic and critical thinking, a disregard for primary research (let’s be honest her entire rant is underpinned by a fervent, pious faith of some and a seething distrust of others), and the use of the term “science” as if its utterance excuses her lack of personal investigation into the full body of research (both for and against), as well as her lack of fidelity to basic, legitimate scientific principles.

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  125. Gregory Oehley via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 2:21 pm

    When my now 3-year old child was a new born until she was about 1 year old , she was fed raw milk formula which I learned to make per your video. My wife did everything she could to try and breast feed but was not able to produce enough milk. During that time, my child contracted either the noro-virus or the rota-virus and she was frequently vomiting. Our pediatrician was not in the day we took her for a check up. The pediatrician that saw us that day happened to also be the owner of the clinic. When I told him what formula I was using, he got very angry with me and strongly advised me to stop. I told him that I had done thorough research on it. He was rude and stormed out of the room and ordered a barrage of tests for her. She would not drink pedialite, and only wanted her formula. When we went for the follow-up visit with our regular doctor, the tests revealed that she was in excellent health!! I never did see or hear from the other doctor again…..

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  126. Sarah Dicken Hillman via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 2:29 pm

    What is so wrong with it? I drank raw goats milk growing up and we were totally fine. I have heard of maybe one or two cases of someone getting sick and I dont even know very much about them. If milk is so deadly why werent our ancestors croaking over left and right? If the natural ways are so horrible why are we so much more healthy in general then the rest of the population listening to the mainstream dr. that are sick and obese? And how dare she condemn Sarah or the Price foundation for their credentials? How many CDC and vaccine company reps and heads actually have a degree relating to health? And what gives them the right to decide what is dangerous for our children? We are the parents, that is our RIGHT! And her comments about Sarah benefiting from it financially, are you serious?? What about all the ties between government agencies and vaccine companies? And going out and buying raw milk from a local farmer doesnt benefit Sarah. And the other comment about Sarah’s disclaimer…I’m pretty sure Sarah didnt choose to put that up because she actually believes it, but because of liability issues from pom pis people like this one. I may not have a degree from Harvard, but I am an intelligent, thinking human being, who’s opinion matters just as much as hers. Keep up the fight Sarah! You are an inspiration and strength to the rest of us that dare to stand against the narrow mindedness and bigotry of others.

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  127. Michelle Rowton James via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 3:02 pm

    Ha. This OB is an embarrassment to herself. She’s simply showing fear at that face that there are patients that know more than she does!!!

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  128. I can’t stand the Skeptical Ob, she is so grotesquely biased. According to her everybody should just have scheduled c-sections and feed their babies conventional formula. I can’t stand her opinions and I think she flaunts her education like other people flaunt designer purses, she is shallow and close minded. Her education was a waste.

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  129. There is not one single useful thing that women ever says. The things she says isn’t worth the cost of ink and paper. She is against anything remotely natural and endlessly bashes home birth and unmedicated birth. She hasn’t practiced in ages and she really needs to get her own life and leave people alone.

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  130. Helen Rosner McDonald via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 4:12 pm

    I say Lie… they wouldn’t know what to do if the child was seriously ill anyway…

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  131. Monika Pyszynski via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 4:18 pm

    I grew up in Europe and drank raw milk since I was a child and loved eating liver. I’ve had strong immune system and never got sick till I moved to US and started to eat crappy processed foods. Once I’ve learned the truth I’ve switched to organic non GMO foods and I’m back to eating chicken pate from the European stores here in Clearwater. I’ll be trying GAPS detox to repair my gut flora. Thank you for all the wonderful information you post. It’s sad how blindsided some people are. The truth is that Europeans are a lot more healthier than Americans because we do eat differently. I’ve never seen such a heavly overweight people till I came here. It was a shock.

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  132. Deborah Gordon via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 5:20 pm

    Not all MD’s: you just need to inspect their waiting room. No friendly literature, probably conventional. Weston Price journals, relax!

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  133. Tiphany Myers via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 5:28 pm

    I made the mistake of going to her ‘blog’ and posting. it’s a bunch of trolls, so don’t waste your time. People need to do what they feel is right. If you don’t think your doctor is on your side, you’re probably right. End of story.

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  134. Beth Coleman Nickles via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 5:34 pm

    Wow. This is a woman on a power trip – how sad for her that she believes her medical degree from 1979 makes her exempt from doing real research on current health issues. How Big Brother to support the government in taking children away from their parents for not forcing a SAD diet on them. George Orwell is rolling in his grave.

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  135. Jennifer Sirois Scherer via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 6:00 pm

    Went to my sons yearly check today an told the dr I’ve been buying milk from a farm and my son has been drinking more milk because of how delicious it is. Her response was, “is it pasteurized?! Cause some people buy embrace milk and that would be REALLY bad.” Hm, mouth zip.

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  136. I left a reply with them. She can stick it where the sun don’t shine!!!!!!!!!! effing freaking errrrrrrrrghhhh so mad at this part in particular!!!! “Imagine that! Social Services wanted to take Carson away for no better reason that to spare him a painful illness, hospitalization and even death. The nerve of those people.” I want to put HER in care of Social Services!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so freaking mad

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  137. Frances Queen via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 7:08 pm

    I would rather drink grass fed cow milk raw than consume any gmo laden, junk added to it store milk. As a matter of fact I have been telling my man for a long time I would like to get a cow to have my own milk, I’d know where the cow came from and I’d know what I fed it (pasture grass). I guess those of us who were lucky enough to be raised on real milk should be grateful it was the normal thing back then. I so wish some things had never changed, no GMOs to worry about and people truly where healthier back then, WHY? Because so much was grown at home, it was REAL food. Funny how people started getting so much sicker when the government started telling people what to eat, drink and pretty much breath!

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  138. Agree with many comments but doctor’s (MD) are not awful, as many people wrote. My husband and I are physicians and take our children to a pediatrician who also practices alternative medicine. The pediatrician feeds her kiddos raw milk, as do we. Don’t like gross generalizations about anyone, especially ones who trained for ten years post college to help people and went into debt for thirty years for said training.

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  139. Robert And-Tammie Rogers via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 8:58 pm

    It used to be that MDs were unquestioned “authorities.” Their words were the gospel truth. Now, there are too many ways to get knowledge for one’s own health, and they don’t like it.

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  140. Lorinda Thompson via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 9:54 pm

    This lady is wrong. She puts anyone who practices alternative medicine in the same boat. I think MD’s have their place and I’m glad to have them, but she makes it sound as though they have the right to decide what is ok for you and your children.

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  141. Stephanie Armstrong via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 9:57 pm

    MDs are not bad, just as Registered Dietitians are not bad. You just have to find the ones who will support you in your beliefs!

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  142. Ricki Lindsay via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 10:09 pm

    I still hold with the little guy…this kind of public bickering is not good for those of us who want freedom of choice. I still hold with “what they don’t know won’t hurt me”. We don’t have the power of the Big Pharm and I’d rather not be on their radar.

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  143. Lindsey Brown McKinney via Facebook April 1, 2014 at 11:30 pm

    absolutely ridiculous! Maybe she should’ve done a little more research as Weston A Price certainly didn’t publish his studies in the 1800′s….

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  144. Kirsten Wise via Facebook April 2, 2014 at 7:02 am

    this has nothing to do with raw milk, because my baby was BF…. she (6 months) died 3 weeks ago from what has not come back yet ‘SIDS’ laying on her back on a blanket taking a nap on the floor. I still got a hard time about co-sleeping, or putting her down other times on her belly. But be careful, because when something terrible happens to you, you question EVERYTHING. ‘What are all these weird jars around your home’ ‘Were you giving the baby tonics and kombutcha?’ not that anything is the real reason, but being a mom this happens. The same with practitioners, they want to label WHY…WHY, WHY. It is very, very hard. they see strange cases, and sad, sad stories. I worry every minute about this, and that cps is going to come take my other kids away since none were vac’d. I worry, did that tempered egg yolk I gave her make her sick? Did that pig dad slaughtered a week or more before somehow make it microscopicly to her??? I worry to death this is somehow my fault, or that I will be labeled as so…. was it botulism from dirt???? Stay safe and never say never, it might haunt you when least expected.

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  145. I want to know what cows milk they studied….. commercially raised cows that a PUMPED FULL of chemicals to increase that and lower this or NATURAL grass fed. I want to see the study comparing the two different raised cows……then maybe Ill agree with what the drs say. Although we ALL know what it will show….

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  146. Peg Miller Manley via Facebook April 2, 2014 at 8:47 am

    I wonder where medicine went off track ? Man kind has thrived for millions of years with no 20th century help … Now we have all these “health” guidelines and we are the sickest we’ve been ????? Crazy

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  147. Peg Miller Manley via Facebook April 2, 2014 at 8:48 am

    Plus DcF is terrible just look at the Conn teen who is held in state custody use to be able to ice skate and now wheel chair bound !!!!

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  148. Janise McKenzie via Facebook April 2, 2014 at 12:26 pm

    We’ll it doesn’t take a genius to figure out that Not telling your pediatrician All what you’re feeling your baby is in fact “lying by omission”. However I think that once our freedom to do what we want with our bodies, labor options or with our babies with good intentions is threatened; one feels compelled to do what they need to, to not have these rights taken away from the medical and pharmaceutical nazi’s.

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  149. Aypril Porter via Facebook April 2, 2014 at 2:01 pm

    It’s amazing that someone so “educated” as a “real MD” could be so close minded and ignorant!

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  150. Gloria Cotton via Facebook April 2, 2014 at 5:37 pm

    “conventional MDs are dangerous to your health … classic establishment fear-mongering to keep control of patients “cradle to grave”. ”

    Exactly! xo

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  151. Gloria Cotton via Facebook April 2, 2014 at 5:37 pm

    “conventional MDs are dangerous to your health … classic establishment fear-mongering to keep control of patients “cradle to grave”. ”

    Exactly! xo

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