Two Autistic Children Awarded Millions by Vaccine Court

by Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist January 16, 2013

Deny, deny, deny.

This is the favored approach the government and tow the line pundits in mainstream media take when it comes to the issue of whether vaccines cause autism.

Newspaper and magazine headlines and TV talking heads repeat the anthem ad nauseum that no link between vaccines and autism has been found and that parents need not be concerned about the uneducated, nonscientific “rumors” swirling on the internet that claim otherwise.

You have to wonder how the pro-vaccine lobby with its head hopelessly stuck in the sand is going to squelch this news.

Just days ago, the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP) also known as “vaccine court” awarded millions of dollars to two children who rapidly regressed and became autistic after a round of routine childhood vaccinations.

The first case involved a child named Emily who suffered a severe vaccine reaction to DTaP at 15 months old. MMR, HiB and Prevnar were also given at that time.

The second case involved 10 year old Ryan Mojabi of California in which the government admitted that the MMR vaccine caused the brain encephalopathy or brain dysfunction Ryan suffered within five to fifteen days of receiving the shot.  Encephalopathy is considered a “vaccine table” injury, in other words, a compensable adverse reaction to vaccination.

Likely key to the prosecution was the testimony of family, friends, and neighbors of the children who testified under oath that the children were normal and perhaps even advanced for their age before autism took hold after routine immunizations.

Seizures, spiking fevers, a measles like rash of red spots all over the body and ultimately brain encephalopathy were reported following the shots.  The witnesses said that the children never fully recovered from the adverse vaccine reactions they experienced, losing eye contact, language, and social skills – all hallmark symptoms of autism.

These are not the first cases of autistic children receiving compensation from vaccine court.

In two other cases (Polling and Banks), the government conceded that encephalopathy triggered after immunization did result in permanent brain injury and ultimately autism.

How Much Longer Can the Obvious Be Denied?

Very, very quietly and without any media attention to the matter, the cases keep piling up of vaccine court awarding compensation for children who became autistic after routine vaccination.

Vaccination proponents will no doubt argue that the autism that resulted was unrelated to the post immunization encephalopathy the children suffered which is the vaccine table injury that permitted the compensation to be awarded.

Those with any common sense will note that the encephalopathy or brain dysfunction suffered from the immunizations no doubt played a huge role and was most likely a key factor in the rapid, regressive autism these children experienced.

No matter whether you are for or against vaccination, one thing can be agreed upon:  childhood vaccinations can and do indeed result in brain encephalopathy and permanent brain damage.

Whether or not this vaccine induced brain damage is called autism or not is nothing but a game of semantics.

Autism is as autism does.

 

Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

Sources:  Vaccine Court Awards Millions to Two Children with Autism

Tell Congress That Vaccine Court Has Ruled CA Boy has Autism from MMR

Mojabi v. Department of Health and Human Services Settlement Documents

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Comments (129)

  1. What a tragedy. I cannot even imagine how the parents feel. No amount of money can compensate for something like this.

    The failure of the news media to cover these stories demonstrates the power and influence of the vaccine industry. These stories should be front page news, but they never are.

    Everyone who considers vaccines for their children should know about this.

    Thank you, Sarah, for telling the truth the media will not touch.
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  2. I agree, it’s such a tragedy. Fear was not the deciding factor when we chose not to vaccinate, but the chance of my child suffering brain injuries from something that I allowed to be given to her is much scarier to me than any childhood illness that she may never get.

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    • There is no scientific evidence that vaccines cause autism. Any study that has concluded that vaccines cause autism has been proven to be flawed or misleading. Diseases that the US and other countries vaccinate against, such as Polio, Meningitis, and many others have been almost eradicated. For this reason, vaccines are probably one of the greatest scientifc discoveries for mankind. Many of the diseases that we are vaccinated against cause permanent physical damage, permanent mental damage, and even death. Countries that have had large shifts away from vaccines have seen alarming increases in the number of these diseases returning. Even if it was possible for vaccines to cause autism, in which it has never been proven to do, I would rather take that risk, than risk the serious consequences that result from not vaccinating. People say that the chances of their child getting one of these disease if they are not vaccinated is lower than the risk of them getting autism if they are vaccinated. If everyone stopped getting vaccinated, the chances of getting one of those disease would continue to increase until everyone was at a high risk. Its called the herd effect.

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      • Josh did you read the article or decisions? The herd immunity theory has not been tested regarding humans. It was originally postulated regarding gets off cows that had natural immunity among herd members, and that a rare of 68% having natural immunity would keep an outbreak from occurring. Again, never studied in humans or vaccine related immunity. For some vaccines, the efficacy rate is as low as 30%, and they don’t prevent all forms of the illness (like type f measles as I last checked out one form of pertussis), not even transmission-a child who does the to the vaccine can oftentimes still carry it and pass it to others. And which countries? The biggest decrease in diseases has been seen after the introduction of proper hygiene, sanitation, and running water.

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        • I do apologize for all the mistakes… I’m on a new phone and using Swype, which I’m very new to. My phone also wouldn’t allow me to scroll up and check my typing.
          *herds of cows, rate of 68, and one form of, does take to,

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      • What Josh says about the incidents of disease decreasing as vaccine use increases may be true. However, as vaccine use increases so does incidents of autism, auto-immune diseases, asthma, and allergies in our young population. How do we explain these statistics? As a university trained biologist I was surprised to learn that scientists are not actually scientific. For example it was recently discovered by a scientist that ulcers are cause by bacteria, not stress or diet, and are easily curable with proper anti-biotic treatment. Although this scientist followed the scientific method his published peer reviewed results and conclusion was largely dismissed by the scientific and medical community. That is until the rejected scientist infected himself with ulcers and cured himself with the new treatment.
        My point is we now live in an age of information. Whether this information is misinformation or not is for us to discover. Just consider that our society is capital ($) based, and so when there is an immense pharmaceutical industry in business to make money on curing ulcers and GERD with Prilosec, Nexium, Prevacid, etc it is unlikely that the public will be presented with unbiased info.

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        • The children in the post had a severe reaction to the vaccines, most children don’t have that severe a reaction.

          I’m sure you can find a bunch of things that correlate with autism but that doesn’t mean they are the cause.

          Personally I think that autism is an autoimmune disease, one component of an autoimmune disease is leaky gut. Many things can cause leaky gut and leaky gut can be the cause of many things.

          Vaccines “may” cause leaky gut but so does crappy diet, food intolerance, NSAIDs, being too clean, antibiotics, triclosan, the list goes on.

          I’m on the fence about vaccines but I am really glad I’ve never had polio.

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      • My almost 4 year old son was diagnosed with Autism right before he turned 3 years old. I had been on the look out for him since he was 2. When I started learning about Autism I had no idea what to look for and it turns out I had been missing signs since he was born. My son is currently fully up to date with vaccines and though there is a correlation between vaccinations and Autism there is no sound evidence proving that vaccinations cause Autism. I fully stand behind the decision to vaccinate my child as he was born with Autism and who am I to blame something as wonderful as a vaccine for bringing this burden upon my family. My child is not a burden he is a joy and will probably be smarter than most of the children he ever comes into contact with. Just because he has social issues does not mean he is any less than anyone else. “Different not less,” a wonderful quote from non other than Tempil Grandin. My son is a joy, and Autism pshh I would take that over Polio any day.

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  3. Awesome for the family! Just awesome! Not surprising it won’t be aired via news outlets. One day… One day- Jennifer, yes last year Italian courts ruled MMR causes autism …didn’t see that on the news either. I hope I’m alive when truth is fully set free to all

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  4. Little by little the truth is coming out.My son is 6 and his body was so toxic and his immune system so weak 2yrs ago i decided to try detox and change diet add supplements.He could not fight off the common cold.His last vaccine at 4 he could not walk for a few days.Today he has eye contact back and we are working with a holistic doctor.The just found yeast overgrowth which can affect the brain.

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    • My little boy is now 7 and has Autism. We too have done dietary changes along with supplements using a medical doctor that follows the DAN method. It has helped a lot. The thing that has been most helpful is ABA therapy We do around 30 hours a week. I think the combo of the two has made all the difference in the world! My little guy went from completely non-verbal to now in a general education classroom, reading, writing and WAY to verbal! Good luck and keep your head up. It is one slow and hard earned miracle to parent and kiddo on the spectrum.

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  5. Rebecca Kiesz-Meyer via Facebook January 16, 2013 at 11:53 pm

    Is there any vaccine that the parents of this community believe is a “good” vaccine to give to their children?

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    • There are homeopathic ones called homeoprophylaxis that work differently and are safe and effective.

      There are also homeopathics that can help remedy the toxicity of conventional vaccinations. An experienced homeopath can help. Also check out a book called The Solution by Kate Birch.

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    • It depends on the child, the vaccine, and the child’s environment. For my family, none are good. For someone working in infectious diseases at a hospital, all have potential. For a wound caused by dirt and that is deep yet does not bleed, tetanus would be strongly considered. But you cannot rule for everyone else based on your family either.

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    • But there is a way back! Isn’t that exactly why people like Sarah are spreading all this news, info, and education? That is why she works unceasingly to give us all the details! She talks all the time about GAPS diet and lifestyle and offers education for how to apply it practically. The link to the GAPS site is gapsdiet.com and this diet was first studied and applied by DR. Natasha Campbell to heal her own son of autism exactly, if I have it right. So let us be positive about the road back, ’cause I firmly believe there is one for any parent committed to healthy life and the health of their children. My opinion, I would still rather prevent all vaccination than try to heal from damages done. I agree with Megan, there are no good vaccines out there, God did not make or sanction them; what He did do was give us all the tools we need to take care of ourselves, if we use the intelligence, brains and protective instincts we will know these are things to avoid, then follow the good principles of food, health and wellness He instated in the first place. Just another tip for anyone who struggles to learn all the traditional food lifestyle in a hurry, I would love to share my best resource. As I learn about how to make and get all healthy food I use Sunrider Whole Foods to stand in the gap for total nutrition. Sunrider offers the very best of whole food, they come to us in convenient, supplement form, gourmet fast food to help us with concentrated whole food nourishment, so healing to to the body that it promotes immediate and effective cleansing, nourishing and creates body balance for complete healing and disease prevention by the Philosophy of Regeneration that they are best know for, a claim to commitment I have never seen another company out there make. Sunrider is also a networking family of support and education, although the their philosophy is basic and simple there are many Sunriders who will stand by you to offer info and support as you eat your way to higher level of health with these powerful foods as your foundation of healing. It does not require any degree in education, as these great foods are just that, FOODS, for anyone and everyone at every age and stage including babies children and pregnant women! My 3 children have never seen a doc in 7 years of life and never had antibiotics ever! We will depend on these basic foods for ever to help us live above the effects of our toxic world!
      You can learn more at http://www.sunrider.com or on my own website at http://www.balanceforbeauty.net if you wish to use this great resource to help you gain control of your health and environment. I live to offer my support to anyone interested, just contact me through the webpage or by email at lorrainepenner3@gmail.com. The Best to all…..

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  6. Meredith Johnson via Facebook January 16, 2013 at 11:59 pm

    I mentioned this on the Today news “Today Moms” fb site today….got blasted that the award was “no fault”…had to remind them that the whole darn “vaccine court” is no fault, by design….

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  7. Charlene Connell via Facebook January 17, 2013 at 12:00 am

    now if you have great documentation made at the time of injury, AND you have tons of money for lawyers, you too can get awarded monies for your brain injured child is an un-documented case which will only aid your family. Not mad at the family, mad at the govt who knows it is still going to get away w/ this 99.999999999% of the time and will keep gambling w/ our children.

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  8. Thank you for this honest post. I always say, point to the money!!!! VAERS, VICP, the truth is in the numbers (and money) regardless if the media reports it.

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  9. Courtney Wiemann via Facebook January 17, 2013 at 12:07 am

    In my son’s case, I always thought his MMR didn’t cause his autism, it worsened it as he had symptoms before. But more and more I’m realizing pre-MMR he had sensory processing symptoms. He lost all his speech and eye contact during the 4-5 months of explosive diarrhea following his MMR. In fact, he saw a neurologist for his large head (family trait… haha!) and low muscle tone at around 12 months and the neurologist even said flat out “I don’t see any signs of autism.” His autism struggles are significantly speech/communication centered, and with some diet changes this spring, including probiotics, he’s begun to break free. He’s continued to improve with more diet changes, and he’s going to be beginning GAPS in the near future. More and more I’m realizing that if it weren’t for that drastic gut (and resulting neurological) damage from his MMR, he might “only” be dealing with SPD… hmm…

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  10. In 1996 the raise the amount of vaccines that was suppose to be given to a kid for no real reason we had no outbreak no epidemic.Some of these kids are being born with weak immune system probably from the mother. Our food is toxic GMO and as soon as a baby is born the baby is being pumped with toxins it does not take a person with a PhD to see the body cannot heal itself .We have become a generation that wants everything fast from food to cleaning etc and now we are paying the price our kids are being born with weak immune system our elderly ppl will be full of Parkinson and Alzheimer Dr Mark Hyman wrote a book called the UltraMind solution and he speaks about the epidemic of broken brains in this country from autism,ADD Parkinson depression etc and how he detoxed ppl full of toxins and things change

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    • This is just more evidence that we must keep our guts healthy, healthy, healthy !
      young people should be taught about real nutrition from real foods before they
      begin procreating! remember, our “bad” gut is passed on to our babies at birth.
      All health begins in the gut…(so does disease) It horrifies me that newborns are pumped full of toxic vaccines from birth on… These innocents deserve better than that. I hope everyone shares all their good knowledge with others…. Keep talking the talk. Our health care system is so broken, that only a crisis may be able to restore things ?

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  11. Wow. Great post. We don’t vaccinate our children but we recently had to vaccinate our sweet cat (just the rabies vaccine) in order to be licensed to do foster care. (Thank goodness they don’t require you to vaccinate your kids for it.) We tried to get out of it because we don’t believe in vaxing our animals either, plus she is strictly an indoor cat and would not be exposed, but they wouldn’t give us and exemption and we wouldn’t get licensed without it. The dr. examined her, found her to be in perfect health and injected her. Very shortly after (I think a couple of weeks) we noticed a huge growth on her chest. Now our cat who was never sick before has a huge tumor. Of course the dr. said it couldn’t possibly be related to the vaccine she got right before. The nurses, however were not convinced and asked my husband for more information on vaccines as they couldn’t deny the possible/probable correlation. Perhaps an underlying issue she had and finally the vaccine was the straw that broke the camel’s back. Who knows… I know this is in no way as serious as precious children. But it just further confirms my convictions on vaccines, especially since I suffered from several side effects from them as a child including seizures.

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  12. Shauna Engel via Facebook January 17, 2013 at 12:55 am

    shockingly typical of the mainstream media to ignore such things….so sad..i think i recently saw a movie on vaccines and some of the info was on one of those kids I think…?..(The Greater Good) what a long hard fight those parents had…UGH

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  13. Jenny Lynne via Facebook January 17, 2013 at 2:51 am

    This is probably going to shock you too, but about a year ago there was a court case in Melbourne, Australia that got a similar outcome. It had a small spot on page 13 or something of a newspaper – that was barely covered over here…

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  14. Sara James via Facebook January 17, 2013 at 8:02 am

    I looked up the Italian court hearing- are you talking about the one from the summer of 2012? It’s not “news” so to say, but worth reading.

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  15. Too bad the media won’t even touch this story if not vehemently deny it all out of fear of loosing the biggest sponsor that lines their greedy golden pockets. PR lobbyists are likely putting in overtime to create their rebuttal propaganda that the general public will no doubt eat right up. They will continue to aggressively label anyone and dismiss any claims of wrong doing instead of consider the truth for even half a second. Their world would be shattered. They would probably have to rethink just about everything they trust and they lies they were fed and believed in as being a truth

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  16. i wish this had been written more maturely but perhaps using certain offensive words was the point to get attention not sure.., i think a few things can be offensive to parents with autistic children or anyone for that matter like saying things such as “Those with any common sense ” that just isn’t nice especially on a topic that is already red hot. And i don’t have an autistic child and i am against vaccines totally and can still see how the use of the word “normal” and other things that were said were done so with no compassion or thought. please re write this in a kinder manner so this information can be shared and taken seriously as it should be i was going to share it on my blog but will now be looking for another resource with a kinder approach. one that can stress the point show the facts and the importance without attacking people.
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  17. Janet McCulloch Waller via Facebook January 17, 2013 at 11:33 am

    I didn’t vaccinate my 2 sons when they were babies in the 70′s. It was a real hassle when they went to school because nobody had even heard of this. I never gave my babies aspirin either. I never gave my children baby jar food. I made fresh vegetables and then ground it up. With fruits too. Actually all food. After breastfeeding was done I bought fresh goats milk. I was a real pioneer and took a lot of heat for it but it was worth it. I believed in it. Amazingly it took 40 yrs to bring this to the courts and of course win. And the media still will not cover it? All I can say girls is do what is best for your babies. They will live heathy lives and maybe some day thank you!

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  18. This just makes me so sick. All of our kids are teenagers and fully vaccinated and as far as I can tell, they are “normal.” I have only learned of vaccine dangers fairly recently, only after my daughters had the Cervarix vaccine. Again, as far as I can tell, no harm.

    But now I am heartsick that I did all this to my kids, in a very well-meaning way. I truly thought this was good parenting — always I have wanted to do the best possible for my kids.

    I now will wonder if the Cervarix vaccine is going to impact my daughters’ reproductive health, effects that may not show up right away.

    The only vaccine we didn’t give our kids was the chicken pox vaccine, because they were lucky enough to contract the actual disease when they were preschoolers.

    And they only received on flu vaccine each, 4 years ago… since then we have refused (I have never had a flu shot).

    Knowing what I know now, I would not have vaccinated them at all and I wish I could turn back the clock and undo the vaccinations.

    Here’s the other thing, I was born in the early 1960s, and I had very few vaccines, comparatively speaking. I am not aware that I experienced ANY adverse effects from them. And I even received the smallpox vaccine. I have strong and early childhood memories and I do remember being vaccinated — yes, even as a baby. (and I got nowhere near the number of vaccinations my own children received). I think it was partly my own experience of vaccines as “no big deal” and also a “smart” part of preventive care, that lulled me into believing that responsible parents vaccinate their children.

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  19. What about families who are losing their children because diseases, like Pertussis (Whooping Cough) are making a comeback, thanks to all the parents NOT getting their kids vaccinated? You can’t completely ignore the other side of the argument. Well, I suppose you CAN, but such ignorance puts MY kids and family at risk because yours aren’t vaccinated. For horrible diseases of the past, like Polio or Rubella to stay under control, (note – they have not been completely eradicated, just kept at bay through vaccination), there needs to be a high enough percentage of the population vaccinated for there to be a “herd effect” and the community at large to maintain protection. As parents, we all face difficult decisions in keeping our kids safe and healthy, and weeding through the plethora of information and misinformation available is a full time job, to be sure. But too many parents aren’t getting all the facts and are putting other lives at risk with their choices.

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    • Are you vaccinating? If so, I’m not sure what you’re worried about. Unless, of course, you think they don’t actually work.

      I don’t vaccinate my kids… well, let me rephrase. I did vaccinate my first. She is vaccine-damaged. With the DaTP, she ended up chronic, reoccurent epilepsy (she was a little infant), and with the MMR she spiralled into world of regressive autism within HOURS. BOTH were reported as adverse reactions by the hospital staff, not me, and it was explained that it was pretty much what this article outlines – inflammation of the brain.

      I haven’t vaccinated my other children at all because no one can explain to me why this happened and I’m not willing to expose my other children. This decision was not reached lightly but in cooperation with their very pro-vax doctor.

      But I am also a very careful and diligent parent when it comes to managing my children’s health, and I do not let them out in public when they are ill and I’m very aware of the fact that they may be carrying the illnesses that you list – and we isolate ourselves appropriately when ill in an effort to keep it contained.

      Which is better than most people who *do* vaccinate, I might add, who always send their kids to school with this and that illness and get my immuno-compromised and neurologically-damaged child sick. Thanks guys.

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      • Your last two paragraphs are well said. We should keep ill children at home for the sake of the community. Nothing should be taken for granted. Well done.

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        • EM, I totally agree with you. Over the years, until my youngest were 15, I was fortunate enough to be able to be a stay at home mom. I think that made some difference, in that I was always available to care for them when they were sick, to keep them home to rest and get better faster, and not expose others.

          However, I was also angrily aware that teachers and most of the other students would go to school when extremely symptomatic with illness (fevers, coughs, sneezing) because… teachers do not have enough sick leave or support of the administration to stay home when they are sick…. parents who work also do not have adequate sick leave to keep young children home and care for them.

          This is a horrible problem! I could get angry all I liked, but what could I do about it?

          My kids caught many of the illnesses “going around” the school.

          I now know that vaccines compromise developing immune systems, probably for life. It is much better for most all of us to be exposed to the illnesses, NOT the vaccines, to give our immune systems a workout and develop natural immunity.

          The same is true for how many of the people who go to work and school when sick, take care of themselves: antibiotics and over the counter meds which continue the assault on one’s immune system. They “can’t afford” to take off work or school, because our society has ceased to allow people to just be sick and convalesce. We might be fired from our jobs. Instead, society seems to want us all to go out to work, on commuter trains, to schools, to drug stores, to hospitals and doctor offices when sick, to keep spreading our germs and keep compromising our immunity.

          Used to be a time when sick people would confine themselves to the home, be taken care of by family members, and maybe the doctor would pay a visit to the patient.

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    • I’d like to see a response to this, just out of respect to those who are on the ‘other side’ of this school of thought. In addition, I know several families whose children are battling cancer, fault of no one. However, they are now immunosuppressed as are elderly folks, what about the risk to them? While I am not taking sides, I’d appreciate seeing both sides respectfully represented. The great part about America is the freedom to have an opinion and express it.

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    • I’m surprised no one has said this already, but the vast majority of children who contracted Pertussis in the recent outbreaks were considered “adequately vaccinated” (i.e., had recieved at least 3 doses of DTaP) by the CDC. If the DTaP vaccine is effective, then why are vaccinated children coming down with Pertussis? It puts the herd immunity theory into serious question.

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    • Unfortunately, many vaccinated against whooping cough have contracted it !
      Do not be lulled into a false sense of “security” Our responsibility is to foster
      good health.

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      • I remember on a daytime talk show DECADES ago, the subject was: can you children’s vaccinations give you a disease?

        On came a woman in a wheelchair who had contracted polio through the vaccination of her child.

        One person I know gave a mild case of the swine flu (they were vaccinated for it) to their spouse (not vaccinated). In fact, there are recommondations for persons vaccinated to not be in the vicinity of those in fragile heath.

        So, vaccinated folks: you want unvaccinated folk to stay home? Time to realize you’re Typhoid Mary!

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    • this is plainly nonsense…if you think about it.The whole herd effect nonsense is a ridiculous con.If vaccinations are effective…why would anyone worry about some kid who hasn,t had vaccinations?
      Please…can anyone find ANY independent EFFICIENCY figures for any vaccine…and secondly, when it comes to commercial livestock…why are they all slaughtered and not vaccinated when outbreaks occur …Why are only animals…including humans…of no commercial value, vaccinated?

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    • It’s ignorant comments like this that give the anti-vaccine movement a bad name. One can refuse to vaccinate based on good evidence of post-vaccination injuries, while at the same time enjoy the benefits of sometimes necessary medical treatment. Trusting God and going to a doctor are not diametrically opposed to each other.

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  20. These vaccine manufactures/BigPharma know exactly what they are doing. As long as they keep the American people dumbed down and use fear tatics, they will continute to get away with literally, murder! You can’t even sue the doctors or anyone for that matter if they suspect it was in fact the vaccine that made their child sick – why? Because most don’t even know about the VICP – Vaccine Injury Compensation Program. It is us up to us to inform others, and take our health back ourselves because the news media will keep the propaganda rolling…

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  21. this may seem a bit off subject, but I’ve been “attending” The Healthy Mouth Summit online since Sunday, healthymouthsummit.com, and there have been several speakers talking about how toxic the fluoride in our water is, and how to get off it, as well as talking about the mercury in our amalgams in our mouths. Got me thinking about the mercury in the vaccines. dr David Kennedy DDS spoke about the dangers of these 2 things and how to avoid them, and more importantly, how to detox from them. He has videos on YouTube. Just type In his name including the DDS. Also Dr David Getoff naturopath4you.com. Several of the speakers have said the fluoride attacks every part of our bodies. There is nothing good about it. To get to my point, could avoiding fluoride and doing detox from mercury help reduce/reverse some of these autism symptoms? I know the GAPS diet works for many. Could adding in these other two things help? Possibly the detox methods would be too much on a young person’s body in addition to what GAPS is doing, but how about working to avoid the fluoride? Especially because it is in our water and with the GAPS diet we drink so much bone broth. I know Sarah talks about filtered water. Now I see why it is so important.
    The online summit is free. They have 3speakers each day and you can listen any time during the day to them. Then the next day there are 3 more speakers. It runs thru Sat. Healthymouthsummit.com.
    I am old enough to have not had to deal with what you are all having to cope with, both for myself and my children, but, thanks to all I have learned from Sarah and from all your many comments on this subject, I refuse all vaccines my doctor suggests. I am now working to remove my many amalgams and to detox from all the damage to my body. Even though when you post comments you are writing about your children, I see similarities with what has been going on for my physically and mentally for several years. My dentist told me yesterday that our bodies can cope to an extent for years with toxic buildup but then along comes some intense incident, for me the death of my mother, and the body can’t take it anymore and collapses. I’ve been strangely ill for 5 yrs now and been working for 2 yrs now to try to regain my health on my own without all the grand ideas, or lack thereof, of the medical community. I think what I am learning in this online summit and what I have learned from all of you is really making a difference. Thank you all so much.

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    • Cathleen, in addition to GAPS and the detox methods in the HealThy Mouth Summit, there are homeopathic approaches to detoxing from vaccines. Check out CEASE therapy. Also see a book called The Solution by Kate Birch, among others.

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  22. Am I reading this correctly, that a child can develop Autism or brain damage at any age after being vaccinated?
    My 6 yr old is due for his Kindergarten shots and now I am really confused as to what to do.

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    • Say NO.
      Sign the school waiver.
      They will try to scare you with epidemic just say no problem and stick with your NO
      Stay with it.

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  23. Vaccines do not cause autism. Some forms of autism have a regressive component. The child develops fairly normally and then begins to regress. That it SOMETIMES happens around the time of some vaccines does not mean the vaccine caused it. This is correlation, but not necessarily causation. Autism rates do not change when vaccines are reduced. There are many good scientific studies that show that people still develop autism even when they don’t get vaccinated and millions of people get vaccinated without getting autism. Also, the courts are not scientific research arenas. This isn’t where we look to get good evidence of something. The notion of vaccines causing autism is a classic example of people collecting information that supports their preferred position and ignoring information or not seeking out information that refutes it. It is confirmation bias coupled with our tendency to see causation where there isn’t. Sharing stories on the Internet is not the way we find out about the world. Carefully looking at ALL the data-supportive and not supportive- over large groups of people, not just neighbors and people online, are the way to get at the answers. When that is done, no relationship is seen between vaccines and autism. I think the healthy economist is practicing pseudoscience. When people stop vaccinating because they are falsely scared, they put themselves and others at risk of disease and death. Yes, people do get injured from vaccines. And they get injured from not getting vaccines. But the number of people helped FAR exceeds the numbers that are harmed. I challenge any anti-vaccine person to show me good data that demonstrated that it is safer to not vaccinate than to vaccinate.

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    • I am a regular reader of this blog and fall somewhere in the middle when it comes to vaccination. We are still researching the issue and are finding plenty of info on both sides that is quite compelling. So far, it seems that both sides do a great job of gathering information that supports their position, while ignoring/glossing over the evidence that contradicts it. (Since you’ve already firmed your position quite well, let me ask you – have you ever read anything by Neil Miller? I am thinking of his Vaccine Safety Manual primarily. He’s the classic anti-vaccine spokesperson, and his book is full of study references.) I wish there were a really non-biased arena where people could come and not get blasted for being on either side, but be able to ask questions.

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    • David…do you know of any independent, EFFICIENCY (not efficacy) figures for vaccines please? love to see some as i haven;t managed to find any as yet…..or any figures for the percentage of vaccinated who then catch the targeted disease?
      That would be great.Thanks.

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    • Good to see that Huffington Post is reporting this. The article linked above is by David Kirby with the headline Vaccine Court Awards Millions to Two Children With Autism.

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  24. Yeah, as far as I know, ther is no form of “autism” that regressivly strikes at age 10! Poor kids and parents. Vaccinations are a barbaric practice and a perpetration upon innocents.

    My own serious health issues seem related to vaccines as well, both horribly in childhood and when I went to live overseas at age 19. I’m 51 now, and have never fully recovered, have lived an extremely restricted difficult life, been unable to make a living despite having a vivacious and ambitious personality as well as high intelligence and dedication level. I hope the money these families got can in some way make up for what is irreplacable. My heart goes out to them.

    Thank you a million for sharing this and for fighting the good fights.

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  25. Hope it is all right to quote directly “The heavy array of vaccines given to young children in the U.S. doesn’t appear to cause any health problems, a government advisory body said Wednesday…The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommend two dozen (count ‘em 24) be given to kids before age 2, with as many as five vaccines given per doctor visit.”
    Rest assured, though, the health advisory body “recommended parents’ concerns about the schedule continue to be heard.” WSJ – Thursday, January 17,2013.

    I am not saying this is so, but what if there were a link between big pharma and the government? Say, as in the case of the dairy industry and the advisory board for the government sanctioned food pyramid? Tobacco, anyone?

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    • There is totally a link between big pharma and the government. There’s a revolving door between the two at top positions.

      I don’t know if this is still true, but I doubt much has changed. A few years ago when I was researching vaccines, EVERY “expert” on the panel that makes vaccine recommendations to the CDC regarding the vaccine schedule had ties to big pharma. Not only that, but many of them had a vested financial interest in selling more vaccines. They were patent holders. It’s a HUGE conflict of interest, and in my opinion, it’s criminal.

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  26. Whoever that guy is here who says vaccines are not the cause of autism, please know and hear from me that I became EXTREMELY ill, damaged, and could never recover fully EVERY time I ever got any vaccines. I did not get autism (thank God) but have been barely able to endure all the hellish and ongoing, miserable, barely manageable, nightmarish challenges to my health and to merely somehow survive all my life. The worst problems came within two weeks of a vaccination (so finally I realized that and stopped getting them around age 23!)

    Whether vaccines cause any nameable break in health, or something which is considered “ideopathic” or not-perfetly-traceable and provable, the anecdotal evidence is clear that they are seriously and permanently, severely damaging.

    I was a science major in college, studying to become a biochemist. I couldn’t finish my degree and work in my field due to many “ideopathic” illnesses and issues which showed up strongly after getting vaccinated. I know the value or lack thereof in ancedotal evidence, and I subscribe to scientific method strongly. But sometimes the obvious truth is staring us squarely in the face, and we avoid and navigate around it, when a tad of opened eyes and common sense is golden, and saves lives from being destroyed.

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  27. Saidy, The Huffington Post is a terrible place to go for science-based information on medicine and health, in my opinion. They do the same thing there as they do here, rely upon non-scientific information that only supports what they already believe. Their articles are full of logical fallacies. If you cannot spot those, you may very well think the authors are on to something. But I regard the HuffPo like I regard a tabloid. It is full of breathless hyperbole, not reasoned thought and solid evidence. Please, I encourage you to get medical information from medical researchers or people well-trained in medical science.

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    • Ummmmmm…no thank you. Medical information from medical researchers?? They are trained by Big Pharma. You are completely blind to what is going on here. Brainwashed is what I call it, like sooo many other Americans. Our government, CDC, FDA wants to dumb us down. Too many people are actually doing their OWN research and are learning that vaccines are, in fact, dangerous. These people posting OBVIOUSLY have done their research. I know I have. And the MEDICAL way, as you say, causes damage. Why on earth would they trust the MEDICAL field once again? Just like someone above posted..I would rather pass on vaccines to avoid vaccine injury on a disease that my child probably WONT contract. I choose to nourish my children properly, aviod GMO’s, aviod vaccines, aviod anti-biotics, aviod toxic chemicals as much as possible (flouride, amalgam, parabins, sulphates), use organic foods and healthy supplements to build a strong immune system and let their body do its job and heal itself. And when my children get sick enough to see a doctor, see what my pediatrician says (because I do believe there is a time and place for them) then treat with my homeopath/naturopath. Not every child’s immune system is the same..we cannot treat them all the same. I am very fortunate and BLESSED to have healthy children and I can honestly to say it is because I have made INFORMED decisions. It is awesome that people are not “just trusting their doctors” anymore and actually being pro-active! I LOVE that there are blogs like The Healthy Home Economist to educate people and spread awareness!! We could ALL learn something.

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      • P.S. I do believe there’s more than 1 way to become autistic. I do believe that some children are predisposed but I do NOT believe 1 in 88 are predisposed. SOMETHING is happening to these healthy happy children. I do not think it is a coincidence that these symptoms are happening within hours of vaccines. That is ignorant if you ask me. The Medical Doctors are great at convincing otherwise. Sorry, I am not going to fall for it. The “medical research or people trained in medical science” can form their information any which way they want to.

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      • Heather: Homeopathy = Placebo Effect. I wouldn’t waste a single penny on a homeopath.

        I agree that medical science has often gotten superceeded by political needs (the SAD diet, My Plate) and commercial blindsiding (statins), but I haven’t seen anything out there that makes me wish I had never had been vaccinated myself, or that I would prevent my children (if I had them) from being vaccinated, selectively. Some vaccinations are more worthwhile than others. Yes, for a few, vaccinations turn out badly, but our world was subject to a lot more lethal diseases before them. (And we were eating better then, too, so vaccinations have had to play a role.)
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        • Homeopathy helped me get out of a neuropathy side effect of the polio component of a multi-vaccine. Nobody’s going to tell me it didn’t. Of course I went to my mainstream doctor first, who refused to acknowedge it was a side-effect. And I got a gazillion useless drugs for it.

          Say that homeopathy isn’t useful to the German government sponsored health system.- homeopathy is sanctioned by them alongside allopathy.

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          • I am selective about vaccines. Being that I am old enough to know people who had polio for instance (but this vaccine is no longer needed). I did not take the flu vaccine this year — in this case, flu is so mutable the vaccine benefits do not outweigh any potential problems. (And yes, the flu is endemic here in New England right now. No regrets.

            Homeopathy: dilute something down so there is no molecule whatsoever (well, maybe in some cases maybe ONE) in a preparation. Okay, that’s simply magical thinking, which is exactly what is behind the Placebo Effect.

            I think the German government has some good things going for their health system over ours, but homeopathy is NOT one of them.
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          • I WILL take useful vaccines. I vaccinate my cats but NOT against feline leukemia, because I totally agree that this one is “evil”. They don’t go outside (although one was outdoors by accident for two days this past year.) I have to give them rabies shots because if they ever need to be boarded (for surgery or other reasons), otherwise they cannot. I seriously think each potential vaccination needs to be evaluated alone as a stand-alone event. I had childhood measles, and my parents thought they might lose me, which is one part of where I stand on this issue. Measles is NOT dead from the world.
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  28. They will lie to you, but you DO NOT have to vaccinate your children. In Texas, you can request an affidavit from Austin and present this every time you enroll your children somewhere. People do not know the law and insist that it is the law. They are ignorant and you have to teach them. Do immunizations work? We got the whooping cough on two separate occassions from children who had been immunized. Go figure!

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  30. “Mom of a few” — I live in TX and have decided not to vaccinate my children — can you please share with me where I might be able to request an affidavit? Thank you!

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    • I’m not sure if Texas laws are the same as mine, but they should have a release form at your children’s school. The school nurse should have the form. They will most likely lecture you regarding “the risks” of NOT having vaccines (which I personally think it is the opposite) and then you sign the forms. Our nurse told me they would keep my child “IN QUARANTINE” and I said “PERFECT! Call me and I will gladly come pick him up!” :) People have NO idea how simple it is to opt out when it comes to public schools. They try to scare us into it by saying they need all their vaccines..but that is not true. there are also religious forms you can fill out if the school doesn’t provide the release form for you. Also, never sign a refusal to vaccinate form! READ….http://www.whale.to/vaccines/form.html. Good luck!

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  31. im going with david on this one. when my son was diagnosed, the developmental pediatrition told me that vaccines causing autism has been ruled out considering that autism is a GENETIC DISSORDER. and it wasn’t just his developmental pediatrition, it was EVERYONE i went to see in and out of the medical field before and after he was diagnosed. and for those of you who do not know this, during the fertilization process when the chromosomes are exchanged, the xx carries over to the xy. that extra leg on the xx (on the bottom right of the last x) is either difformed or not fully developed and once it carries over to the xy gene, there are known to be abnormalities. this is what you call a malfunction or a fluke. how could a vaccine cause autism if you are born with autism… without having the vaccines in utero? thats like calling yourself a natural blonde when you were really born a brunette. just because you went to a salon and put some chemicals on your head, you are naturally that hair color? no. don’t side with jenny mccarthy (even though i love her) and don’t think that FDA or the govt is trying to make us see the real picture while the curtain is down. this is not the case. there are soooo many theories or what i like to call “excuses” to what really causes autism. but, you can challange a scientific theory until that theory is proven a reality.

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  32. Ok so our family might go to the Carribean next spring. Our 2 year old is currently unvaccinated. she still breastfeeds 2-4 x/day. Are there any vaccines at all that you would consider getting for her? I need advice please.

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    • My advice to you would be to talk with a good homeopath in your area. There are remedies/nosodes that he/she could give instead of vaccines. Then you could make the choice to vaccinate or not. One amazing book out there is “The Vaccine Guide”. I’d take a look at that before you make any quick decisions. Good luck and go with your gut!

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  33. Daniel a Köenig January 18, 2013 at 5:13 am

    Sadly, too many Americans have the attitude “Don’t confuse me with the facts; my mind’s already made up!”

    One of the reasons people vaccinate is that they are too ignorant (or else too lazy) to feed themselves properly. Having said that, it’s becoming harder and harder to find food worth eating, in most cases.

    Grow your own, frequent the Farmer’s Markets, and use the biblical guidelines regarding what’s good for your body and what’s not (e.g., Leviticus 11 and Deuteronomy 14), and you’ll be a long way down the road to health–WITHOUT vaccinations!

    This blog is also one of the best resources in the modern age to help you get back to healthy eating and healthy living. Thank you, Sarah, for all you do!

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    • What I get when I bring up the vaccination issue with people is: why would the government allow anything that is bad for us?

      I have a hard time explaining without sounding like a conspiracy theorist…..and
      you know how appreciated they are!

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  34. unfortunately, controversies like this, perpetuate the craziness in our society to blame and sue anyone and everyone whenever something goes wrong. It’s rampant and out of control. What has happened to personal responsibility? I worked in medical field 15 yrs I have seen firsthand how things can go wrong. If a pt having surgery has a pre-existing unknown condition, the outcome is not always successful but the doctor and hospital get blamed. Personally, when I see the photos of some of these litigious people I’m appalled by their unhealthy conditions !! The best protection is radiant health… for both men and women. We have strayed much too far from real food, ancient wisdom and traditions …. Money cannot make a wrong right and often life comes full circle and bites you back.

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  35. David just like the pharmaceutical companies are behind alot of the medical reports and backing up alot of media and medical journals.I understand what you are saying and what i am saying that one size does not fit all.some kids have recovered from autism with getting rid of the toxins.36% of autism is or maybe genetics.Do you have a child on the spectrum? And it think a parent knows it’s child before any medical report.This is big money in medicine and you can say whatever you want but i think there is something bigger than just genetics.

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  36. My son, Joshua, just died Dec 8th 2012, after 35 years of autism struggle. He died of colon cancer in the end, which I believe was also a result of being in the autism spectrum. He, and we, fought digestive problems his entire 35 years. As a result of having bowel problems and being very afraid of society, he remained inside and concentrated on his small eBay business, books, and TV. Obviously, the lack of sunshine and outdoor exercise contributed to the cancer. I feel guilty for not ‘forcing’ him to go outside more, etc., but on the other hand, it is also difficult to force anyone to do something against their very nature. In his case the nature having been changed as a result of the MMR vaccine and very ineffective treatment. My wife and I cried and prayed frequently for those 35 years and are still crying and praying. Our hearts go out to each and every one of the victims we read about. One of the last things Joshua told me was that he just wanted to see justice brought to the Pharmaceutical companies before he died. He had amassed a lot information and knew, fully, the corruption between the ‘Pharmies’, as he called them, and the U.S. government agencies who are supposed to be our help rather than enemies. Speaking of the Pharmies, they were even complicit in his death. Once determined that he had the terrible cancer, the only choices were Chemo, Radiation and Surgery. None of these actually cure or stop cancer. In fact, after a lot of research, it is proven that the Chemo actually weakens the good cells subjecting them to further growth of the cancer. The Pharmies have even convinced the medical establishment to withdraw the license of any Dr. who tries any other method of treating cancer. All of this corruption between the mentioned parties goes unchecked in this country, while both autism and cancer are being successfully treated in other countries around the world. For an example of the complicity, there have been studies by the very same Pharmies proving natural treatments worked against at least cancer, but the studies were put into storage and never disclosed because the Pharmies could not patent the process using natural ingredients. They would rather continue to collect the average $350,000 per cancer patient that it takes to keep them alive a little longer before dying anyway. Joshua, knowing this, opted to try a couple home remedies, but the cancer was too far advanced and he did succumb as mentioned. We concurred with his decision in light of the fact that with the autism/people problems and finances, we could not see taking him out of the country for treatment. As Joshua hoped, I also hope to live long enough to see the people responsible for these tragedies brought to justice. However, being 73 years of age, I do not see it happening in my life time. I am sure of this much, however, we have a true and loving GOD and He will not take kindly to those folks when they stand before HIM at judgement time. If Joshua were here, I think that he would advise both the victims of autism and their parents to just keep LOVING each other and getting all the information available, especially outside the normal medical facilities, and keep trying the different natural remedies until successful.

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  37. my son never had any of the vaccines, i had worked in the medical field and got ” underground ” reports regarding the harms of these so called benefits so opted to forgo them. he was diagnosed with Autism and ADHD along with countless others diagnoses, and it’s not GENETIC, it was a because of a very poor diet.

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  38. Since biomarkers for autism appear before most childhood vaccinations, I am seriously thinking we need to look at diet of parents prior to birth or even conception. Those poor Pottinger cats, for instance. (That study makes me sick, but if we can learn SOMETHING USEFUL FROM IT… let us do so.) I have been looking into the info on epigenetics, and this makes sense to me. I suspect timing for vaccinations is playing into the hands of those who want an instant 1-2 answer — we need to look earlier in a childhood history. AND yes, I am going to think to blame a large part on our SAD diet these days. (AND what we take in from nations that don’t have ANY health controls, simply it because it is THERE, and available for us to eat…)

    I will be selective about vacs. But I will be intelligent about them, as well.
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  39. Sara James via Facebook January 18, 2013 at 10:53 pm

    When the autism rate is 1:50 in some states and the known cause of autism is unknown, meaning vaccines can worsen the situation, I’d question them big time. 1:50…that is too close to home for me.

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  40. That is one i meant one size does not fit all our kids food is toxic everything we us on our body is toxic it is only natural for the body to have autoimmune issues,which alot of these kids have at least i know my son.It does not take a person with a PhD to see something is wrong here and plus alot these doctors are not thinking on their own they are just puppets for big corporations.If we don’t wake up from the sleep we are in not only babies will be affected the elderly too.Which will be us in the future.

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  42. Vaccines are a travesty of our times, but it are typical of most allopathic approaches. Rather than do no harm, which should be the medical motto (it is with osteopathy), they do harm in the hope that good comes out of it. As tragic as it is, 1 in 55 boys being diagnosed with autistic spectrum conditions, the main problem is not vaccines, but the condition of the gut (esophagus, small stomach, small and large intestines) in most of these individuals who cascade into serious physiological conditions. Therefore, the reason why some succumb to vaccine overload, while others can manage the toxins coursing through their systems. I believe that up to 65% of all conditions that people seek medical relief for, including panic attacks and depression, as well as autism, would not be as prevalent and would be mitigated if folks had a robust, thick mucosa lining their gut along with beneficial flora. The real focus here should be restoring the gut so that when toxins are encountered, the body can resist them. The bodyecologycom diet was an early pioneer in their area; the GAPS diet is a great expansion upon that idea of restoring the gut. The vaccine triggering the autistic reaction is symptomatic of gut simbosis. Everyone should be following the GAPS diet as closely as possible, and these conditions will cease to be commonplace.

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  43. jennyfromtheblock March 21, 2013 at 12:54 am

    Just wondering how medicine, doctors or vaccines can be all that bad considering the shape our planet is in. Our food and air is more contaminated than it was 100 years ago, however our we live a lot longer than they did 100 years ago. I’m assuming medicine and vaccination plays a huge part in this?? As for autism, I have no experience with that, I’m questioning it myself because I recently read “house rules” jodi picoult and my son has his 2 year visit coming up. I vaccinated my daughter as recommended, she’s 7 and had no problems so I’m leaning toward vaccinating my son as well. Especially since it never crossed my mind not to until I read that book. (and it is fiction, although I’m sure she did her research.) Being a parent iis the hardest job in the world, hands down, we all want what’s best for our children. I don’t want him to be autistic, nor do I want him to get a case of the measels. I don’t want to offend anybody, especially if you have seen your child go from typical toddler to ASD after a vaccination, but for me I just don’t see a connection, and I’ve been reading quite a bit. Reading about it and living it aren’t the same I know, its just my conclusion thus far.

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  44. These are still correlations, not proof of causality. Was the autism a pre-existing condition brought on by the trauma associated with the encephalopathy? Is autism brought on by brain damage the same as naturally occurring autism? And if it is, that still does not account for the fact that autism generally has been shown again and again to have no link with vaccinations. Encephalopathy may indeed cause Autism. But encephalopathy is the least common side effect of vaccination and it is unscientific to draw the conclusion that autism following encephalopathy is evidence that ALL other cases of autism are related to vaccination. Also, most cases of encephalopathy DO NOT progress to autism, or some, in mild cases lead to temporary autism-like symptoms that clear up eventually. Autism does not “clear up”.

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