Why Vaccines Are Scientific Fraud

by Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist January 4, 2011

I have a number of posts on this blog discussing the dangers of vaccinations, the two most popular being Six Reasons to Say NO to Vaccination and How to Resist Pediatrician Pro-Vaccination Tactics.

A frequent argument that people in support of vaccination use to respond to these posts via email or commenting is that vaccines are an effective tool in the fight against infectious disease as they have stopped countless epidemics and that I am basically a heretic for suggesting otherwise.  These comments typically point to the “science” behind vaccines.

To show you that these arguments hold no water and that any “science” in support of vaccines actually consists of fudged data by Big Pharma and spouted ad nauseum by conventional media outlets, consider the following from the Vaccine Information Coalition:

Diseases were on their way out long before vaccines arrived …epidemics have their own lifespan…

According to the World Health Statistics Annual 1973 — 1976, Volume 2, there has been a steady decline of infectious diseases in most developing countries regardless of the percentage of vaccines administered. Researchers pointed out that infectious diseases disappeared as the result of sanitation, improved public water supplies and personal hygiene, better distribution and increased consumption of fresh fruits and vegetables.  From 1850 to 1940, diseases had declined 90% and were at an all-time low, just when vaccines started to be introduced.  In addition, diseases for which there was never a vaccine also declined dramatically (turberculosis, typhoid fever, scarlet fever among others).

You will notice from these three charts, that in each and every case, the epidemic was already decreasing dramatically – long before the vaccine was ever introduced!

Note also that in medical textbooks, the chart showing the decline in the polio death rate is only shown from the point of the first red line forward!   This leads medical and nursing students to erroneously believe that the polio vaccine was responsible for the decline in the disease which is simply not true!  As you can see from the chart, polio was already well on its way out before the vaccine which is the same story shown in the charts for pertussis (whooping cough) and measles as well as other infectious diseases that didn’t have vaccines.

Now you understand why your doctor is so very misled about the effectiveness of vaccines.   The control of medical and nursing school curricula by Big Pharma through big research grants and donations is what makes the perpetration of this scientific fraud possible.

The real reason for the decline in epidemics – running water, improved sanitation/personal hygiene, and greater access to fresh fruits and vegetables doesn’t make anyone – or should I say – any corporations any money does it?

Here is another very informative and eye opening link with many graphs showing that, on average, 90% of the decline infectious disease occurred before the advent of vaccines!

 

Sarah, TheHealthyHomeEconomist.com

Sources:  Vaccine Information Coalition,Decline in Disease (used with permission)

Vaccinations: Parents Informed Choice (scroll down to see vaccination charts)

 

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  4. It’s quite frustrating to listen to all of you discuss the “research” you do. Browsing the Internet with your mind already made up, looking for information to support your already made up minds is simply not research. You can call it pointed education. I truly wish you could see what true research is, what it does, and how it saves lives. My boy is 2, been fully vaccinated, and has never had as much as a fever. My anecdote means nothing more than yours…it’s a nice story that proves nothing.

    Please don’t judge. It’s very off-putting.
    If you want to come across as a bright, loving community, be it.

    • Sarah, TheHealthyHomeEconomist

      Your son is 2, so that means he’s had between 26 and 36 vaccinations right now (multiple vaccines per shot). By the time he’s 12 he will have had 68 on the current schedule (I’m sure more will be added in the coming years). Why don’t we revisit your comments in about 10 years time then and still see if your son is just fine after about triple the assault on his system than he has currently experienced?

      • Wow. Seriously?
        The only reason I added a comment was to encourage this community in general to be more caring, less self-righteous, and less judgmental.

        Somehow, that’s exactly the opposite of what you offered.
        I don’t pretend to have everything figured out. Neither do you.
        I don’t know how many more vaccinations he’ll have. I have to do more “research.”

        And finally, thanks for the kind words about my son. It appears you hope he becomes quite Ill so you can have made some sort of point. Why don’t we “revisit my comment” in 10 years when your son has a preventable disease. Oh wait, that (thank God!!) likely won’t happen because most of his acquaintances parents were stupid, clueless, and careless enough to blindly follow real science.

        Please. Stop the attacks. Not everyone has the same opinion. Negativity breeds negativity.
        Your choices are fine. They are yours. Don’t judge others for making different ones.

        • Sarah, TheHealthyHomeEconomist

          Hi Brian, I just suggested that you rethink your position. 2 years old is hardly enough time to judge whether your son is vaccine damaged. I know very few children these days that are surviving the onslaught unscathed. I certainly hope your son is fine, but the odds are not in your favor. Take a look at the no vax kids in your community. A lot less problems, it is obvious to see. Play the odds for your son’s sake. Don’t believe companies that have a financial interest in injecting your son with 68 vaccines and keeping him sick the rest of his life. A great plan for residual income, no?

          Just wondering how you can possibly argue with the charts on this post. They come from government records. Simple charts. No opinion, no judgement. See for yourself that the web of lies about vaccines that you choose to buy is false. Do it for your son before it is too late and you have lifelong regrets.

          • Sarah, TheHealthyHomeEconomist

            By the way, Brian, I do not apologize for giving people the shock treatment on this blog with regard to the misinformed decision to vaccinate. Sometimes a good shock is what people need to wake up. Somebody has to say something. I am infuriated by the lies of doctors, the media, and government about this subject and I will say as I please. It’s my blog. If you want lies about vaccines and the so called “science” behind them, there are plenty of other websites to go and salve your conscience about your misinformed decision to poison your child. Read the label on the vial of poison that is being injected into your son’s arm, over and over and over again. Look at the charts that do not lie. Wake up and stop kidding yourself.

          • Sarah, TheHealthyHomeEconomist

            Brian, Check out this video and website by Dr. Mayer Eisenstein MD, who since 1973, has observed virtually no asthma, allergies, ADHD, ADD, autism, in over 35,000 cases of unvaccinated children.

            (website getting revamped currently so is periodically unavailable)

            Wake up, wake up, WAKE UP!

          • Your charts are hilarious. There at a lot of other government carts that say the exact opposite. For some reason you readily dismiss them. I though you said earlier the government cant be trusted in this area. Double standard here?

            I appreciate you calling what you do shock. That’s Exatly what it is. A collection of “research” that is presented to simply get people all excited. A presentation to convince the convinced.

            I appreciate the video. I could link to a host of other videos and government graphs that would more articulately and convincingly make their point. But why’s the point?
            We each think the other is hogwash.

            Your shock sensationalism will only get your followers more fired up and the rest of us more annoyed.

            People. What you read here is one side. This is not education. This is not research. This is opinions. Anyone can gather some graphs and stats and make an opinion.
            Those of you who have actually done stats know there are two sides to everything, and honestly, you can prove whatever you want with statistics. It’s what you chose to report And present in the end. There’s is ALWAYS bias. On our end and on yours.

            Wake up wake up wake up!!

            Wake up wake up wake up.

          • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
            Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist June 25, 2011 at 10:29 pm

            You are right, the medical textbooks use the same graphs but they cut them off at key points to make it look like the infectious disease continued its downward fall shortly after the vaccine was introduced (as I discussed in the post, but you probably didn’t really read it, did you?) Look at the ENTIRE graph as I have it posted here to see that the decline was well underway long before vaccines came onto the scene. Charts for other infectious diseases such as scarlet fever for which there are no vaccines show the exact same thing.

  5. How long does artificial immunity really last? I received all the scheduled MMR shots as a child. In my mid-twenties, as part of routine pregnancy blood work, it was discovered that I was NOT immune to these illnesses. Not immune to measles, mumps, or rubella in early adulthood after having had all my shots!

    It was recommended that I get a booster shot after my baby was born since contracting one of these during a subsequent pregnancy would be disastrous for the unborn child. I consented to have the MMR booster. Eighteen months later, newly pregnant, another round of routine blood work… STILL NOT IMMUNE.

    Conclusion: vaccines do not protect.

  6. Spot-On Sarah! – these graphs ALONE are the beginning and end of the argument – i am just so amazed that people cannot “get” this immediately–
    Ravi

  7. This chart is stuff I’ve pulled from research but haven’t seen it all in one place like this so well visualized! My three children 5,3,1 have not been vax’d and I don’t plan on it! They are super healthy, sure we get bugs here and there but we get over them with rest and proper nutrition. I’d like to add that I worked at a small pharmacy as a tech when I was in college. It was then that I started to distrust Big Pharma. I saw the reps using rolling carts to give samples to doctors along with VAST amounts of Olive Garden and the like, to get them to prescribe drugs. (while elderly would have to choose food or medicine) Then the reps would come to visit us, hand us pens and ask about patients that were taking certian meds and how the pharmacist could get them to change to their drug. (BEFORE HIPPA). Then one day a rep came in she worked for the same company that first put out the chickenpox vax. She did not rep this drug, she was a mom of small children. She said she would absolutely NOT be giving the vaccine. She cited two reasons. 1. The reason it was brought to market was to reduce moms days off work and 2. We don’t know the long term effects of it, what it will do to them when they are 40 or 60.

    Guess what… we still don’t know what it will do to them when they are 40…it’s not been around long enough! This started raising my eyebrows… then I worked with Autistic children. Children that had been vaccinated and had astronomically high levels of measles titers. Another that had severe mercury poisoning that kept recurring, even though treatment had brought levels down, (and all reasonable measures to eliminate the source had been taken).

    Thanks for your post and speaking out about vaccines…

  8. Hi! I’ve never been a fan of vaccines but wanted to listen to my pediatrician so my 4 year old and 2 year old have recieved vaccines, but on a much slower schedule. I would only allow 1 or 2 per visit. But after reading this, should I just stop any and all future vaccinations? They are very healthy, my oldest does have a very mild (mold) allergy and her nose is stuffy a lot. They get a cold once or twice a year. Oh, and I am adamently against the flu vaccine-my children have never recieved that! At least I am doing that right :)

    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

      Hi Stephanie, I see absolutely no upside and only major downsides to vaccinating ever for any reason. There are homeopathic nosodes for every disease if there ever was an epidemic that was a concern. There is no use for ever having a shot.

      • While vaccines are fraudulent, so is homeopathy unfortunately. Don’t ever waste your money on any fraud or con. If you want a way to treat colds, viruses, etc. use herbal medicine, vitamins, etc. It’s easy to see that homeopathy is fraudulent if you take the time to read their studies. From a common sense scientific perspective it’s clear it’s fraud simply because water does not have memory. That’s one of the silliest arguments I’ve ever seen used to con people, but many people get fed up with mainstream medicine and then will blindly believe any alternative they are told. But read some homeopathy studies and notice they never use control groups, and they use such small sample sizes.

  9. Good article and I’m glad to hear many of you learned this information before getting vaccines. I was crippled by the flu shot and I never really even questioned what was in a vaccine when I went and got that shot. I just figured the flu wasn’t fun, why not get the shot?? Never looked into it anymore than that and now I’m disabled in pain everyday. Do all you can to show people the evidence. I was an engineer so if I had seen the real science instead of the media “science” I sure would have listened, but I never saw it and never knew it existed. So our knowledge now will help some I’m sure, even though we have the media and the most profitable industry in the U.S. against us.

  10. http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/10/ff_waronscience/all/1 — an article that is well-written by a science writer who addresses some valid concerns with the concept of not immunizing for certain diseases. I’ve also read some Andrew Weill who indicates that yes, there are some things we don’t need to immunize against, unless one is in a specialty field (nurses in certain places may need to get hepatitis B, for instance, but the majority of us have no need for it). That article addresses needs, but it isn’t on line as far as I can tell, and I no longer have a copy of the AARP magazine that had that article in it.

    Veronica, wow. Thanks for the support but I don’t have the harsh assessment of Sarah that you have. She’s a strong believer in her position, and I don’t think she has considered all the angles, but “bullying” — I didn’t feel bullied, honestly Part of my response earlier was my fault, as I missed seeing the accreditation for the graphs when I went to that website. Late at night, tired, whatever. Still, I don’t think those graphs tell the full story.
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    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
      Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist January 26, 2011 at 6:21 pm

      Diann, considering that I made the decision to not vaccinate some 13 years ago and have read tons of info since then that has done nothing but reaffirm this original decision, I would say that I have definitely considered all the angles.

      There are other, much better options to preventing infectious disease in your child and/or allowing them to get over it quickly with no long term effects without shooting them up with poison and risking lifelong autoimmune, chronic problems the rest of their life.

      • I made the decision not to vaccinate any of my three children – starting back in 1975 when my first was born. But I started doing “research” (strictly out of curiousness) back in the spring of 1971 when my sister gave birth to twins. One was vaccinated on the then “normal” schedule. The other twin was not, because she had to have several operations due to a hernia (I don’t even remember now what sort of hernia, but it had something to do with her intestinal tract). The infant who was not vaccinated until after she was 1 year old did, and still does, much better in life, health-wise. Maybe a connection, maybe not. To me it seems logical that spacing vaccinations farther apart, if you feel you must have injections to survive, is prudent. It’s also prudent, IMPO, to stay away from clustered vaccinations – MMR, DTaP, and others on today’s roster.

        I just feel that doctors should be more upfront with the information concerning vaccines, but it’s more like they are trying to hide something. They get VERY defensive if you question the need or ask for the insert from the box containing the vaccine. To me, that is a very suspect attitude to embrace if they truly believe in what they’re doing.

        It seems to me all we’ve done is trade measles and mumps for bigger stuff like leukemia and MS and lupus – all autoimmune diseases, which, in my personal opinion, come from damaged, compromised immune systems after certain vaccinations and drugs are used on children whose bodies are still developing a natural immunity, which is then stunted or cut-off by the chemical invasion.

        I like to read the information at the NVIC site (National Vaccine Information Center) but Barbara is usually so busy doing interviews and giving lectures that she doesn’t send out new information often enough for me!

  11. it’s clear that that website vacinfo wrote that it came from WHO, who knows whether that us true. what it seems to me is that you do quite the same…..read and believe everything a like-minded website or Dr tells you. Who says I believe the pro-vaccinational propaganda? Uf you actually read what I write you would reslize that the jury us still out for me. I clearlr just wanted to know whete all of your forceful opinions come from because you dont seem to fairly look at data from all sides. Also, I actually have read Dr Cowens book….. and agree there is research out there on people going into ca remission from an infectious disease but I seriously question his ideas of it being good that your kids got pertussis. good thing I didn’t sign up for his upcoming conference I guess…. wouldnt want to believe fall for something so hook line and sinker!

    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
      Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist January 18, 2011 at 10:48 pm

      Beth, my opinions are so forceful because I HAVE researched both sides. My father is an MD as are others in my family. I was bought into the pro-vaccine propaganda for many years. Fortunately, a good friend suggested that I do some research before I vaccinated my first child. I did my research and was horrified at what I discovered.

      You ask for the source of the graphs, I give it to you and you are still questioning ???? Why don’t you apply that same skepticism to the pro-vaccine nonsense. It would serve you quite well.

    • Beth and Diann,
      Save your breath. Sarah is too defensive to have a discussion with. And before any of you ask why I keep coming back (watchmom3), its because I’m fascinated by the train wreck that is this supposed ‘conversation’ that Sarah is having with her readers. Sarah continues to make assumptions about the rest of us who she is assuming are pro-vaccine just because we ask questions about her sources, challenge her defensive posturing and ask probing questions. So the result is, she tells us that we are delusional, brainwashed and naive without even knowing whether we actually are anti-vaccine or not. Also, Sarah continues to say that she has done the research, and those of us who have also done research must be reading sham websites, textbooks and meeting sham doctors. How is it possible that a bunch of us are reading the same “fake” research and somehow Sarah is the only one with the REAL research. Sarah–do you somehow have access to some secret database that the rest of us can’t see? It is beyond insulting that anytime a health professional has come on here to engage you in a discussion you’ve dismissed them summarily. Why do you think you have all the answers? You have told them that they are brainwashed and that they are owned by Big Pharma. Your narcissism is appalling. Go ahead, laugh at me for attacking you. So many of your posts have been you laughing at your posters, telling them in mocking tone that you are mightier than they are. This is about real people trying to have real discussions with them and they with you. I agree that you should not engage with people who come here and outright say nasty things to you, but so many posters have tried to engage you conversation and you have shut them down immediately. Why such defensiveness right out of the starting gate? Why are you so angry at people?

      For the record, I did not vaccinate my son and never told you that in the beginning because you decided early on that I was pro-vaccination.. but I would never use you, or suggest your site to friends for information because your tone and demeanor towards anyone who challenges you is bullying. You are not enlightened. You are defensive. You might have some good ideas for your family but the gospel of Sarah is damaging and I feel badly for your children if they are given the role model of a defensive mother who laughs at people who challenge her and doesn’t care to be open minded to conversations that affect everyone, including them. I think I’ve watched this train wreck long enough and now watchmom3 I will go and pray as you told me to do in another post. I will pray that people find better ways to disagree. To stop polarizing themselves and to stop thinking they are better than others and to stop thinking that the only way to make a point is to shoot others down.

      • Wow. So, I’m just going to address one point, because your post is just too over the top to consume any more of my time. I’m thinking the reason Sarah doesn’t pay more attention to the ‘medical professionals’ that comment on here is because they do not use correct grammar, spelling, and sentence structure. Which would imply that they are not actual medical professionals. Just thought I’d point that out.

      • Hey V – since when did Sarah become YOUR research assistant?? all you nay-sayers harassing Sarah – get off your collective duffs (that’s *sses for you delicate types) and dig into this FOR YOURSELF –

        and try this: START with this question – WHY SHOULD I TRUST A HUGELY-PROFITABLE HEARTLESS CORPORATE ENTITY (BEHOLDEN ONLY TO IT’S SHAREHOLDERS) TO ASSURE ME THAT WHAT THEY WANT TO INJECT DIRECTLY INTO MY CHILD’S BODY AT SUBSTANTIAL COST TO ME (AND PROFIT TO THEM) WITHOUT ROCK-SOLID EVIDENCE THAT EVERY LAST COMPONENT OF THEIR BREW IS SAFE, THE SCIENCE IS SOUND BEYOND QUESTION AND THE RESULTS AS GUARANTEED AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE?

        cause if yer stupid enough to not get and read the arm-length small print legal side-effect disclaimers that accompany every single vaccine shot and research the potential hazards of having each and every component of that vaccine INJECTED DIRECTLY INTO YOUR CHILD’S BLOODSTREAM, then you are flatly a lazy, irresponsible fool. (guess i don’t hide my contempt for uninformed parenting, do i?….)

  12. Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
    Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist January 18, 2011 at 10:26 pm

    I have to say that Diann and Beth .. your comments make me laugh as you folks are so quick to ask for “sources” and “proof” when the benefit of vaccines is questioned but do you ask the same questions of the provaccination propaganda? Heck no! You just swallow it hook, line and sinker because the websites look “professional” and come from folks with lots of letters after their names.

  13. Diann, I’m still waiting for any type of professional/ medical citation but seemed to have been ignored as soon as I ask for that in my above post. Graphs from medical textbooks with a part chopped off… Where is that statement coming from? Pertussis protects you from asthma? please tell us where you get this info from?

    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
      Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist January 18, 2011 at 10:21 pm

      Pertussis protects from asthma was explained to me by Dr. Tom Cowan MD at a Conference in 2007. He told me this after I explained to him that my children had pertussis and he said that was great because they would never get asthma. In his book Fourfold Path to Healing, Dr. Cowan explains how infectious disease typically has a benefit to reducing the chances of chronic illnesses.

      Also, regarding the source of the graphs, it is pretty clear from the source I have at the end of the blog post that this info comes from World Health Statistics Annual 1973 — 1976, Volume 2.

      • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
        Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist January 18, 2011 at 10:31 pm

        Oh and I should also add that not only do none of my children have asthma or allergies, they haven’t even EVER had a respiratory infection since having pertussis 4 years ago. Pertussis strengthens the lungs considerably and has lifelong benefit to the child. I am SO GLAD my children had pertussis. One of my children was even a baby at the time. Would I vaccinate them for it if I could go back in time and do it all again? NO WAY. It’s the folks who are so afraid of their kid getting so much as a cold and getting vaccine after vaccine that have the sickly kids that need antibiotics to get over a simple ear infection. Vaccines turn kids into physical weaklings.

      • One doctor and one book making this allegation don’t make it true. This is a nice theory, but it hasn’t been proven. And I actually tried googling it just to see if I could find where your sources might be and saw NOTHING about this, so it’s not even a widespread theory.

        I am so glad that your children have been healthy. I am not so sure that pertussis can be the reason why. My own (vaccinated, never had pertussis) son is 4 and has NEVER had a respiratory infection either. He has had mild head colds, but has never needed antibiotics or had anything more than a very mild, dry cough.

        It’s great that our children have stayed healthy, and I’d like to think that breastfeeding him until he was two, feeding him good, balanced nutrition, lots of exercise, keeping him away from places like daycares, indoor playgrounds, and other germ factories, and not exposing him to second-hand smoke also helped. But honestly, it’s probably just been a combination of good genes and luck.

        • Sarah, TheHealthyHomeEconomist

          Your son is only 4? That’s the typical age(3-4) for vaccination induced asthma to begin. Age 4 is not a very good measure to say the child is healthy or not and has survived vaccination unscathed. He hasn’t even been to school yet or been around lots and lots of germs everyday, everywhere. You also don’t know if he if fact has a vaccination induced learning disability which can be there and not be noticed for several years yet. The chances are high, I’m afraid. I know few children these days who emerge from the insane vaccination schedule without some damage of some kind.
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          • I didn’t say he had emerged unscathed (though so far, he has done just fine), I said he hasn’t had any serious respiratory illnesses, which is what you had said was a hallmark of you not vaccinating your children. I think it’s just a child-by-child basis on who has a naturally stronger immune system.

            I will be 100% happy to eat my words on this and offer a public apology on this issue if you can show a peer-reviewed journal article (or even a variety of credible sources) that proves that pertussis prevents asthma.

          • Sarah, TheHealthyHomeEconomist

            What confounds me is when folks ask for peer reviewed scientific studies that would refute Big Pharma’s stance on the importance of vaccination when the peer reviewed journals are controlled by Big Pharma? It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever! The info I posted was from an MD who has written extensively about how infectious disease reduces the chances of chronic disease (such as asthma). It’s not just pertussis/asthma link. There is a particular type of cancer that is cured by getting strep .. another is measles curing kidney disease. Dr. Cowan writes about this link in his book FourFold Path To Healing which does have a number of sources cited.

            Bottom line .. when you suppress infectious disease – an increase in chronic illness is the result. Hence, children today who are fully vaccinated have an epidemic of chronic illnesses such as asthma, allergies, diabetes, autism, and the list goes on and on. Children that are not vaccinated suffer from chronic illness OF ALL KINDS at greatly reduced rates. I don’t know about you, but I don’ need a peer reviewed study to tell me the obvious. The kids I know that are not-vaxed don’t have the same chronic illness as the ones who do. I’m making the decision for my kids NOW. I’m not waiting 10-20 years and beat myself up that I wasn’t more aggressive in protecting them.
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          • Sarah – your article stands as a beacon to those who can see by it’s light – really – don’t waste your time on the likes of Grace – i know you are trying to be “polite” but each of these people have the whole internet of information (and misinformation) at their fingertips and if they do not have the intuition, intelligence and just plain curiosity to investigate this issue after your very good stimulating article – continuing to demand “more evidence” from you – don’t waste your time-

            anyone who has learned that “peer review” journals regularly flatly refuse any research results that differ with the accepted status-quo of current medical dogma will never get it that the system is completely and totally rigged – and they can only be let free to bungle up their lives and the lives of their children – you’ve done your part by exposing these other vtruths – kudos and let go.

            one more thing for those whole think peer review science journals are in any way a guarantee of authenticity/truth or proofs- (ironically from a peer-review journal!…) :

            Why Most Published Research Findings Are False
            http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124

            this is all a big card game – and Big Pharma has all the aces.. cause they printed the deck- the only way to win (like with nuclear war) is not to play.

          • ps – bet some serious research went into Grace’s last post:
            Smoothie Test- First Attempt And- Second
            mmmmmm good – and how much sugar do i use?

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  15. Well, I would like to share an experience my family had about 5 years ago… A skunk came up to our back door and attacked our momma cat and 5 kittens. Well, it was a horrible event, and we had to put down 11 cats. I was overwhelmingly grateful that my dogs were locked up; however, when I made that comment to my vet… guess what? I told him that and also they had rabies vaccines, and he said, “That doesn’t matter; there are over 200 strains of rabies, so the chances that your dogs had immunity is small.” Now, imagine my surprise to know that our yearly /biyearly shots for them were a gamble!!! I check everything now, ESPECIALLY what goes in my kids! Atta girl, Sarah! Keep your voice out there telling the TRUTH! God bless! Watchmom3 in Texas

  16. Thanks. However just looking through their site, they don’t look particularly professional (as in remotely convincing). There is this concept that autism and vaccinations show up at the same time in a child’s life — I think there is chronological synchronicity going on here, Vaccinations are given for childhood diseases at about the same time developmental issues are noted… because before that timepoint, autistic and “normal” behavior is not readily distinguished.

    I went through a vaguely-remembered hell with measles. My mother went through a fully-remembered hell with mumps (which meant she recognized the couple I got as a child, andand dealt with thie issue immedately.
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  17. I do agree that these childhood diseases were declining in incidence due to better sanitation and hygiene. However, having suffered through measles as a child (it was touch and go), another reason was better understanding of how to care for those afflicted which also had a role. They gave my brother the measles vaccine, and I can tell you if I were ever to have children they’d get most of the vaccinations. Especially for measles.

    Yes, I’d look though each one, and make judgements based on research I’d do in the literature. Declining doesn’t mean they’re gone, or can’t stage a comeback. These diseases are cyclical, they aren’t eradicated (although polio is pretty much gone).

    I would, out of curiousity, like to see your graphs’ citations.
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    • Diann,
      These graphs are simple historical data – you can easily reconstruct them yourself if you need “proof” -

      and as for your disease “comeback” yes – they may – but in the absence of the conditions that made them epidemics the last time around, they cannot be epidemics again – clean up sanitation, strengthen the immune system and it’s a done deal – that’s why we HAVE immune systems and have managed to evolve to this point at all. Check the history yourself – China with huge populations – has never had the epidemics that ravaged christian Europe – European cities were built like open sewers – literally – where excrement flowed into the town wells – the east respects the body as a temple in itself- the christian west defames the physical, preaching aspired immortality in the NEXT life – the east historically kept their bodies clean and balanced, the christian west glorified saintly self-flagellation and denial/vilification of all that is physical in this life – the results are evident in our respective histories.

      and , i know this is blasphemy to say to a woman – but please, Diann, do not have children, because until you learn that good healthy nutrition and reasonable sanitation are the ULTIMATE game plan for healthy vibrant children and people in general, then you will just continue this man-made horror of the pseudoscience of vaccines (yes, it is a pseudoscience) and damage and sicken your offspring as well.

      Until idiot parents stop knee-jerk reactions of corporate-induced fear and start demanding the same “proofs” and assurances from the government and big pharma that they demand from us crazie “vaccine deniers” then the horror will continue and big pharma will continue to sheeple the masses into their sickness-inducing machine for huge, immoral profit.

      Ravi, Daiasolgaia
      and YES, we are mad-as-hell that anyone would try to force us to do something as horrifically unnatural as inject poisons in our children!
      another viewpoint? go here: http://daiasolgaia.com/?p=939

      • Really? You just told a woman that doesn’t agree with you not to have children until she agrees with your viewpoint?

        Wow. Just. . . Wow.

        And you are mad-as-hell that other people want to encourage you to do the right thing? Yet you deign to say who should have children (people who agree with you) and who should not (those that haven’t seen what you see as the truth)?

        The beauty of being a parent is that we do get to make choices for our own children. Most parents I know are just doing the very best they can with the information that they believe to be true to make good decisions on everything from what our children eat, to how much they sleep, to what sunscreen we put on their little bodies. Just because we might make different choices doesn’t make someone a bad or good parent, it means we are different and approach things differently. Though I do believe in vaccinations, I have done so by doing my own research, it just led me to a different conclusion than yours. But I would still think and hope that we would see eye to eye on other issues and that we could learn from each other on other things. I am friends with many people who don’t vaccinate (or don’t breastfeed, or who let their infants watch television, or give their kids sweets and soda, who don’t serve organic milk, fruits, and veggies). Would I make a different decision, sure. Would I agree that I can still learn and benefit from a friendship with them, ABSOLUTELY!

        Make the decisions that you want, have the children you want to have, even blog about all of your research, information, and science. People can hopefully take everything they read on-line (here and elsewhere) with a grain of salt and do their own research, find their own information, and look into science from a variety of sources. However, when you have gotten to the point in your own mind where you can justify saying what you did to that woman, then you really need to step back and evaluate yourself as a human being. It isn’t blasphemy to say such a thing, it is wrong and shameful on so very many levels and you should be ashamed.

        • oh – i hit a sacred cow with my comment Stacie? – i mean Grace… (“Grace” just popped over to spank me for my strong opinion at DaiaSolGaia under the name of Stacie…)

          well – here’s another one to chew on for you and other increasingly defensive guilt-ridden parents that are having an inkling that they have taken some pretty stupid undue risks by allowing fear, big pharma doctors and lazy ignorance to drive them to vaccinations –

          i believe that the informed and even un-informed act of allowing this toxic brew of untested, unproven, ill-conceived, un-regulated (in production) and wholly theoretical poisons to be injected into your child’s young, physically impressionable and vulnerable body (when it has a natural immune system of it’s own that is worlds more effective than anything modern science has yet or ever will concoct FOR PROFIT BTW) – that act is tantamount to child abuse.

          i’ll even go so far – just to boil your blood a bit hotter, Stacie/Grace- that not doing due diligence and feeding a child ANY soda, HFCS in ANYTHING, candy, refined grains, processed foods of virtually ANY kind and depriving a developing child’s body of good animal fats, proper sunshine and vitamin d-rich foods, and fresh meats and vegetables – NOT doing that is also equally tantamount child abuse.

          so grapple with that, all of you who will get your dander up – do your damn homework as parents of the children who will be trying to drag humanity into a more enlightened age – ’cause at the rate of decline we’re creating now – the human species is doomed to be a sidenote in the history of this planet – and very soon.

          Diann is simply uninformed and seems content on arguing from her ignorance and lack of realistic perspective. Yes – i have an opinion and have paid the price of having an opinion in innumerable hours of reading, research, discussions, living life and having a (exceptionally healthy un-vaccinated, well-nourished) child.

          let the attacks begin – and please – make it good.

  18. But what research are you looking at? What are your sources. I have never read anything stating a child who gets pertussis is immune to asthma. Please site a source for this – id love to read it. Stating “these children with allergies, ADD, autism, asthma and a host of other chronic autoimmune diseases for the rest of their lives” implies that MOST children who are vaccinated have these issues. This certainly isn’t the case. Do you feel that most unvaccinated children are 100% completely healthy. Not the case either. Simply a matter of risk vs benefit. And I don’t hate nor dismiss people who choose to unvaccinate (obviously) i’m just simply looking at both sides and feel the vaccinating one is a bit stronger.

    I just wonder – do you truly feel this if we could get rid of vaccines altogether, that we would be a healthier people? You don’t think any of these diseases will come back? Because they already have in places with plenty of sanitation and fresh produce (really?) I also wonder If you had planned to travel to a part of the world (apart from your assuming affluent or middle class one in which you have access to a clean home and real food) would you bring your unvaccinated children and expose them to these diseases with the believe they could fight them off? Do you use pharmaceuticals for anything?

    I think the thing that bothers me is that your opinions are so forceful and your rebuttals are so defensive. This is what makes me think your statements are mostly opinion with loose sources to back it up.

    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
      Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist January 18, 2011 at 10:38 pm

      Why are you so bothered by my opinions, Beth? It seems you can’t handle anything that shakes up your perfect view of the world that vaccines have somehow saved mankind. I would never get any vaccinations if I traveled to third world countries by the way. Why do you assume that the only way to deal with infectious disease while traveling is with vaccination? There are other ways to prime the immune systems before traveling, say with homeopathics. But, then you would call that quackery, no? We are not on the same page, Beth. It’s pretty useless to try to convince folks of your way of thinking, which is why I dismiss you folks so readily when you come and comment on my blog. It is a waste of my time.

  19. The thing that frustrates me reading all this is – does everyone really have all the facts? Have you really done your research, or do you just choose to follow like-minded people to yourself, thus, possibly putting your children in harms way.
    Sarah, Pertussis is a VERY BIG DEAL. Im sorry your children had to suffer with it, and I can just hope that they didn’t infect any other unsuspecting children in their community. I am a medical professional who takes care of children. Its sad to see some erradicated diseases making a comeback – even though we have running water and sanitation???
    This being said, I too and skeptical about some vaccines, will they harm my child, etc. Yes, its scary. But its a solid case of risk vs. benefit. I am one of the biggest skeptics of the modern medicine, but vaccines save lives. bottom line.

    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
      Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist January 14, 2011 at 9:02 am

      Not sure at all how you can make that argument Beth when you examine those graphs I put on this blog! Facts are the facts .. infectious disease was on its way out LONG before vaccines came into the picture. It was improved sanitation that made the difference primarily along with better access to fresh produce. Why is this so difficult for folks to grasp that what they have believed might possibly be incredibly wrong? Why is this so hard for people? I don’t know. All I know is what I have learned through research and if you want to believe the “vaccines saves lives” line, go right ahead. I’m opting out.

      • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
        Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist January 14, 2011 at 9:05 am

        Oh and pertussis is NOT A BIG DEAL. It is beneficial to kids to get whooping cough you know why,, THEY WILL NEVER GET ASTHMA. A few weeks of coughing as lifelong protection from asthma, yes ma’am give me one of those. Folks are trading their fear of a mild infectious disease for a lifelong chronic condition. Do some people die from pertussis? Yes, they do. But not many. Not in sufficient numbers to warrant mass vaccination for it and curse these children with allergies, ADD, autism, asthma and a host of other chronic autoimmune diseases for the rest of their lives. The risk/reward ratio is HEAVILY on the side of NOT vaccinating.

        • Seriously, Sarah, this is getting ridiculous and borderline scary.

          Pertussis does not prevent against asthma. Please share where you got this misinformation. And pertussis can be epecially dangerous for children that already have asthma or the very young (newborn) that cannot be vaccinated against it.

          And everything you just said right there? THAT IS THE VERY ARGUMENT FOR VACCINATIONS? Sure, a few people die from vaccinations, but not many. People are trading their fear of mild side effects for a lifetime of risk of not being protected against truly deadly diseases. Poeple are dying, but not in sufficient numbers to warrent mass vaccination refusal. The risk/reward ratio is actually HEAVILY on the side of vaccinating.

          There are, unfortunately, proven side effects (even rarely death) to vaccinations. Fortunately, they occur in very small segments of the population (though I have every sympathy in the world for those are ill-effected), but things like allergies, ADD, autism, and asthma have never been proven to be caused by vaccination administration. Causation and correlation are two very different things. Correlation can be easily skewed and misconstrued. Study samples have to be very large (think thousands) to estabish a true correlation and then many, many very carefully designed studies need to be done to establish cause. That hasn’t been done. It has been attempted, but when the numbers are all said and done, the proof isn’t there.

    • If vaccines save lives and prevent disease, why are those diseases making a comeback? When you can answer that logically, with or without “science” (which is normally bogus and paid for by the very people who support those scientific findings, of course) I’ll believe in vaccinations – maybe.

      Jonas Salk admitted that polic vaccines caused polio – to his colleagues only, not to the general public. How sad that he was such a fornicator for medicine and money.

      Dr. Mercola had an article on his site within the past week containing a video of one of the developers of many vaccines totally admitting that he was well aware of things like SV40 live virus vaccines being very damaging to the human body, but it didn’t stop them from using these things on us peons. (You can find the video at YouTube by searching under Dr. Hilleman or maybe just Hilleman or something similar).

      Doctors love it when you agree with them, don’t they? They don’t love it when you don’t agree with them but they’re great pretenders who make you feel as though they like the idea that you’re questioning things and staying “on top of things”. Ha. Nothing could be further from the truth. When you “question” authority, they laugh behind your back because they think they’re superior to you. In truth, they aren’t. They are just zombies who have been brainwashed by the curriculum in a medical school – a curriculum that really hasn’t changed in over 100 years to any degree of intelligence. They still teach that drugs are superior to mother nature, and I find that so very wrong on so many levels.

  20. It sounds like you all are very blessed to have healthy children. I have a 5 year old that was born with multiple birth defects. She spends so much time in the hospital and is just lucky to be alive at this point. Two years ago she almost died from influenza. Yes, the same kind that to a healthy person could just be a minor inconvenience left my daughter so weak that she couldn’t blow a bubble out of a wand. It is very scary to watch that happen. She has been hospitalized 25+ times. Sometimes it is for surgery, but more often it is for a virus that she needs a little bit of oxygen to help her fight through it. Most of the time, it is not necessarily for medicine but for the round the clock care that she needs.

    It is frustrating to me that you can’t see a need for any vaccines. I have learned through the past 5 years that all medicine is based on is theories and you have to choose which one is best for you. That does not mean that what is best for my child is best for yours or vice versa. I have had to become her greatest advocate, doing research, listening to doctors or as one of you put it “theoreticians”, and deciding what is best for MY child. I vaccinate my daughter– any and every vaccine that is available because it is what is best for her, based on all of the research I have done. I don’t do it blindly. I do it because I feel the short term benefits may help keep her around until next year, at which point, I will gladly deal with any long term problems.

    In the end, nobody can definitively say whether the decline in diseases is because of better sanitation or vaccines. You have to look at the data and decide which theory you support. It does not make one way right or another wrong. It does not make one group better parents. In the end, it is each of us doing what we feel is best for our children. I have had many doctors compliment me on my involvement in my daughter’s care. I don’t make it easy for them because I don’t follow blindly. I want to know why they want to do something and what the pro’s and con’s are for everything. I have gone through many doctors to find the team that works with me and is what I feel is best for my daughter. There is a purpose for the medical field and it is not all bad. When you find the right kind of doctors, who treat you as part of their team, medicine can be an amazing thing! It just has it’s time and place and is up to each individual to decide how it fits best in their life.

    • Lynae, The plain, bald fact is that your child’s NATURAL immune system will never be able to develop on its own as long as she is hospitalized, drugged and then insulted with vaccinations. Not possible. That child needs healthy, nutrient-dense foods in order to build up her system to fight things on its own. You won’t find that in a hospital.

      Don’t you think that 25+ visits to the hospital is a little excessive given that you have so much faith in drugs and vaccinations? Why are those things not helping her? I’ll tell you one reason that makes sense to me – - it is because our bodies are biological, not chemical. We are not meant to be sustained by chemical concoctions dreamed up in a laboratory. We are biological beings who need life sustaining foods, and I’m not talking about some frozen version of healthy food which you’d find at the supermarket either. It doesn’t take long to learn to cook healthy, high fat (good fats), body-sustaining foods.

      Whether you believe in God as the creator or what you believe, it doesn’t change the idea that our bodies need good nourishment in order to be sustained, as well as an unlimited supply of clean, filtered water. I would venture to say that just improving those two areas of your daughter’s life, plus getting away from the current medical paradigm of drugs for everything, would do more to sustain her and make her a healthy, happy child, than anything else.

      But that’s just me.

    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
      Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist January 6, 2011 at 6:01 pm

      Someone sent me this article yesterday and it is a load of Big Pharma propaganda if I’ve ever seen one. Someone with half a brain can read this and see it for what it is. I especially like #2 “Myth” that vaccines don’t contain toxic chemicals? What? Is this “journalist” (or should I say mercenary) for real? Has this person even read the list of ingredients on a vaccine label? It is also debatable whether thimerosal is not in the vaccines any longer because the thimerosal is only filtered out and how much is actually filtered out remains in question. The Health Advocacy in the Public Interest (HAPI) did a study on some vaccine vials that were labeled “thimerosal free” and EVERY SINGLE ONE contained thimerosal. You see, the “filtering” process doesn’t work very well! If you believe this article has merit, than I truly feel sorry for you.

      • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
        Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist January 6, 2011 at 7:37 pm

        Ok, yeah, that was kind of harsh. Sorry about that. I simply cannot fathom that anyone would take an obvious propaganda article like that seriously. It is totally beyond my comprehension as a thinking adult.

        • Sarah, if you think your response was harsh, you should have seen the one I did after I read that poisonous propaganda. I had to rewrite it completely, because it was too extreme.

          I was truly angered by this garbage. I had to stop reading it after the absurd claim that vaccines do not contain toxic chemicals. Not only do they still contain Mercury (because, as you pointed out, the filtering process does not work well), they contain aluminum, and formaldehyde, and many other toxic chemicals. The purpose of that article was to convince people who believe what they read in the papers that vaccines are completely safe.

          It is propaganda, pure and simple. So many people are not use to thinking for themselves, and simply believe what they read in the official media, just because it is there.

          We have to think for ourselves, or we are lost.
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  21. I am just catching up, and feel I have to weigh in on this issue. I am 62, and in 1952, I was in the second wave of those immunized, right after the “polio pioneers.” In those days, polio was a terror even in the most advanced of cities. it was thought to lurk in cold water, and it did shift around in breakouts in different areas. I was terrified of catching polio and having to be in an iron lung, a tube your body was placed in with just your head sticking out through a gasket – you lay in it on your back with a mirror over your head so you could see who was in the room. it would breathe for you. As soon as the vaccine was widely given, the breakouts began to wane. Now, it would seem the virus no longer exists in the first world countries. But the vaccine had to be given to short circuit it, just as the smallpox vaccine did.

    Was polio caused by DDT? It was not used as a pesticide until 1939. Franklin Roosevelt contracted polio in 1921, as well as many others, mostly children and young adults then and earlier. Okay, then why did the death rates from measles, pertussis, and polio begin to drop? Care began to mature, and treatment advanced thanks to WW2 advances in medicine and introduction of antibiotics. More survived. Obviously, unlike polio, measles and pertussis persist to this day.
    So, I don’t buy that vaccinations don’t work, but I do believe that most of them are totally unnecessary in this day and age. And, made in the modern environment, they indeed probably do more harm than good. For ages, many kids survived the basic childhood diseases – measles, mumps and chicken pox. More survived from the 50s on, because we benefited from modern conveniences and sanitation. The deadly aspect of these diseases evolved into a nuisance.
    But modern science needs to make money, so they create vaccines for things that are not widespread serious problems. And then they insult the immune system by combining many different diseases in one shot, then multiply the insult by scheduling doses in close succession and decreeing too many boosters. And pay a lot in advertising to make sure you panic.
    Do I get flu shots? Hell no. Did I get yellow fever and Hep A shots when I went to Cameroon Africa? Yep, because those are things my immune system has not been exposed to. My immune system was in good shape, and I had no ill effects. Will I get a shingles vaccine? After watching the misery and after effects of bad cases among people I know…well, I’m thinking about it. A friend’s grandchildren (3, unvaccinated and home schooled for that reason) are currently suffering through terrible cases of whooping cough. But their lives are not threatened. My dogs get initial shots, and that’s it except for required rabies. None of that annual bull.
    I guess my bottom line is that I don’t want to throw out the baby with the bath water. I believe that vaccines do work, but their use it totally out of control. Most are not needed despite what doctors say, and many do more harm than good. They are simply another tit on the cash cow.
    Glad I got that off my chest. Love ya, Sarah!

    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
      Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist January 5, 2011 at 9:31 pm

      Thanks for chiming in with your thoughts and experiences Marianne! I really like how you are obviously thinking deeply and logically about the whole thing which is much more than the vast majority of folks ever do! :)

    • I thought I should say that DDT was just the last and most commonly used of all the organochlorine pesticides. Two others made before DDT even as early as 1890 also cause polio just as DDT does. Also you can see every country that has polio today online at a polio tracker site. Then look at the list of countries with polio…they all use DDT. Latin America used to use DDT and have polio problems, however once they stopped using DDT they no longer had polio and have never had it since then. Pretty amazing right?

    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
      Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist January 5, 2011 at 1:19 pm

      Of course measles is killing people worldwide, but it is in third world countries where running water, sanitation, and access to fresh produce and other foods is limited to nonexistent. If these countries were as advanced as developed countries like the USa in living standards, measles would disappear on its own. You don’t need a vaccine and vaccinating these people won’t do any good as it will lower their immunity and make the problem worse. Look at the graph I have above … measles deaths were basically gone in this country long before the vaccine ever came along!

  22. My brother-in-law got a tetanus shot recently and THEN read the accompanying circular after he got home to find it also contained the Whooping Cough Vaccine. He called the clinic about it and was told it was now “mandated” to be included. Don’t know if this mandate is just for Virginia or nationwide. Two days later he was in bed with the flu. If he was “in the medical box” that would have been another paycheck for the doc and Big Pharma. Do ya THINK there is a method to their madness???

  23. kristin konvolinka January 4, 2011 at 9:25 pm

    Point well made! The charts really hit your message home. I agree with you whole heartedly! One point those on the pro-vaccine side bring up often is that whopping cough is increasing in Southern California. How would you answer that challenge? Has the vaccination rate for whopping cough declined?

    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

      I’m wondering why the pertussis outbreak would favor the pro-vaccination side? Wouldn’t this show that the vaccine doesn’t work or at least the immunity lasts a very short time (they are wanting college students to get booster for this now!!!)? There has been a whooping cough outbreak going around my local area for the past 2 years off an on (all 3 of my kids have had it). As talked about in this post, epidemics have their own lifecycle and vaccines won’t ever change that. Perhaps its time for pertussis to make a bit of a comeback after years of being dormant after declining so dramatically in the mid 1900′s from improved sanitation and the like. Folks’ immunity is certainly depressed compared to then with all the sugar and other processed foods being eaten nowadays.

      • As WordVixen pointed out below, most or all of the the people suffering from the pertussis outbreak were “properly vaccinated”. Perhaps the vaccinations actually spread pertussis, and vaccinated people spread pertussis to those who were not vaccinated.

        The UN actually admitted a couple years ago that a polio outbreak in Africa was caused and spread by a polio vaccine.

        Maybe all these diseases would disappear if they were not kept alive and spread by vaccinations?

        After all, as Sarah showed in this post, they were disappearing before the vaccines were introduced!
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    • I’ve seen on numerous sites that the majority of those in the California pertussis endemic were fully (completely up to date including boosters) vaxed for pertussis. Apparently it’s well known that the vaccine is only 85% effective, particularly if the immune system is compromised- which, oddly enough, vaccines compromise the immune system…

      I did find this quote: “Of the 18 students in the recent Cobb cluster, 17 were properly immunized with five doses of DTaP vaccine, which protects against diphtheria, tetanus and pertussis, health officials said…” here, and I believe another stat that I saw a few months ago was that the percentage statewide was something like 73% of those with pertussis were fully up to date vaccinated.
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      • kristin konvolinka January 6, 2011 at 11:09 pm

        I wasn’t sure of the immunization status of those who came down with pertussis. Oddly enough I heard it as an argument in favor of vaccinations (on the radio) and I wondered the same thing. I of course, didn’t do any research before asking my question here…so thanks for the great responses! Sanitation among other things have minimized many diseases and extended our lifespans tremendously. I think we’ve taken advantage of our relatively new found prosperity and managed to drug, vaccinate and poison ourselves (with high sugar diets and chemicals among other things) into sickness again. Too bad we couldn’t leave it well enough alone.

  24. Joyce, I don’t know if this would make any difference at all, but I know that when my youngest child was vaccinated, the doctor gave him half doses because I was so worried. He said that “a taste” was just as effective as the whole thing. As I said, I don’t know if that would make any difference, but it might be worth looking into.
    Yolanda\’s last post: Mayonnaise – a method

  25. This is very uncharacteristic for me but I have to weigh in on this and ask a question. My son, now 16, was damaged by vaccines. I know there are people on both sides of this issue and don’t mean to start another debate and I have no proof, but I know in my heart it is true. He has had many issues which we are overcoming through much hard work. Anyway we decided we would never again be bullied into vaccines. BUT we are in the process of foster to adopt through our state agency. As long as the child is foster they belong to the state and the state decides issues like vaccines. Is there anything we can do nutritionally or otherwise to negate the effects of the vaccines we will be forced to give? I don’t think we can do a delayed schedule as some are mentioning either. Are we just stuck allowing these children to be further damaged as well?

  26. What to do when you travel to third-wolrd-countries often? twice a year at least. I am originally from Mexico City, they do not have as many mandatory vaccines as in the USA. However, I am vaccinating my children, delaying schedules according to Dr. Sears book, because I am afraid they may caught something during our frequent trips. Any thoughts?

    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
      Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist January 4, 2011 at 7:06 pm

      Hi Marta, I get this question by email a lot. I really should do a blog post on it. Anyway, what you do is get homeopathic vaccination .. they only last a short time but usually long enough for a trip. Also make sure you take fermented cod liver oil and butter oil and take them together every day. Taken together, they boost immunity tremendously. Whatever you do, don’t get the shots. Folks who take them risk destroying their health with chronic fatigue, and other autoimmune disorders. The small risk of infectious disease is simply not worth it and there are steps through homeopathy etc to avoid the vast majority of what little risk there is.

      • Please indeed do a full blog post on the above question… I’d love to have all that info in one place. My wife and I travel a lot and are very undecided on vaccinations for our 7 month old daughter. Right now she’s unvaccinated and we’re just not sure who to believe and what route to take. Thanks!

      • My husband is going on a mission trip soon and is required to get certain vaccinations. Where do you get homeopathic vaccinations? I found a typhoid vaccination that comes in a pill form with a bovine source and does not have the chemicals that are in the injection version. Is this what you’re referring to. PLEASE help; we have to address this very soon, and I do NOT have peace about his getting injections.
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  27. I was born in 1949. As a child, I suffered through measles, mumps, rubella and chicken pox. I remember as a young child the fear in our home that I would catch the dreaded polio that was so common then. It was such a relief to my parents when they were able to get the polio vaccine for me. I remember that the shots hurt! Back in those days, there were no disposable hypodermic needles! I recall that when I had the measles, my mother kept me in a room with dim lighting because of worry about my eyes. The mumps was not pleasant, to say the least. I was quite ill and the side of my jaw, where the lymph node (s?) were was very swollen. Rubella, as far as I know, is not dangerous to the victim, usually, but can cause birth defects if a pregnant mother is exposed. I remember my aunt coming to visit, and Mom showing her my back and asking her what that rash was. That was rubella. I don’t remember the chicken pox. I just know that she said I had them.

    We raised 6 children, beginning in 1972. All of them had the vaccinations, except there was no chicken pox vaccine available at the time. All of them had chicken pox, and the oldest two had them twice. The first time it was because they were exposed to a lady who had shingles. My 3rd child, a boy, was very ill with the chicken pox. He had a terrible painful rash, all over his body. The worst was in his diaper area. He had 104 F. temperature for 3 days running. It was awful. I called the doctor’s office and was told, “It’s ‘only’ chicken pox.” Now I know that some individuals can die as a result of it. I did not know that at the time.

    In 1976, we lived in rural Nebraska. About 1/2 mile from our home was an old graveyard that had been used in the early 1900′s. There had been a pertussis epidemic and you could see families layed out, child after child next to each other. It was very sad. In 1978 I knew a lady who had a baby boy. When the child was born, unbeknown to the mother, she had a mild case of pertussis. The baby caught it. He ended up in the hospital and his coughing was so violent that he hurt his neck in such a way that she could only nurse him on one breast. He had to be held a certain way. He survived, certainly, but it was scary, nonetheless.

    I, too, was always worried when it was time for vaccinations for my children. It was hard to decide what was the best thing to do. I looked at it this way…. vaccines are far from perfect. There are risks, and yet it is the best thing we have at present in addition to taking as careful care of our health and the health of our children as we can. It would have been riskier for my babies to leave them without vaccinations.

    I have an influenza vaccination every year. The last time I caught influenza, it caused me to have a serious episode of anxiety/depression. I know that sometimes the vaccines don’t work, but for me, it is not a choice, but a blessing that there is something I can do that can make a difference. I also take very good care of myself, and I keep natural remedies around. I make elderberry syrup and keep oscillo on hand at all times.

    I think the jury is still out on this issue. In decades to come, perhaps things will improve on many fronts.
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    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
      Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist January 4, 2011 at 6:47 pm

      Yolanda, you can thank flushing toilets and sinks with running water for easy hand washing, cars instead of horses with all their mess in the streets, and food distribution that brings you fresh produce year round for your children’s health, NOT vaccinations! The jury hasn’t been out on this issue for decades, it’s just taking this long for the public to wake up to the scam of vaccination. My three children have ALL had pertussis. It is no big deal! Now, if we lived 100 years ago, yes it might have been a different story. But, no vaccination would have saved them then and it wouldn’t save them now. The thing that got us through the illness easily was their health from eating Real Food, not a cocktail of poison shot into their arm.

      • I am wondering if you would have the courage to say to someone who lost a child to pertussis in the recent outbreak in California “It is no big deal!” .

        Of course, I understand that most babies/children who get pertussis will surivive and their parents may feel like it is no big deal. But when it is your child that falls into the 1-2% catergory that die from this disease it is a totally different story. I have a feeling that it would be a big deal to them. Just expected a bit more compassion.

        (BYW_ Have three kids of my own. Watched my own daughter at age 2 stop breathing and turn blue and still for several minutes from a seizure. Thought we had lost her. It was the worst few minutes of my life. Can’t describe the feeling of total and complete agony when you think your child is gone. )

    • I’m with you Yolanda. I have done my family genealogy and have seen with my own eyes the children in my family who died of diseases they never would have died of today. Would small pox have been eradicated without vacination? I don’t think so.
      The graphs above are hardly current information Sarah, I’m sorry. Also not trying to be mean but do you really think ” Big Pharma” mercenaries troll your blog? I don’t really think they care what you think. I’m not saying this to insult you Sarah, I’m sorry if it sounds that way.
      Sarah if one of your children were bitten by a rabid animal would you want them to have the vaccine made by “Big Pharma” or go with out? I think I know the answer to that one. Why are all other vaccines evil?

      • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

        Big Pharma does indeed care about the message that is being crafted in alternative news outlets like blogs as this is where most of the resistance to its drugs/vaccines is building. To think otherwise is simply naive. When I started getting nasty messages with my first vaccination post last year, I had an attorney well versed in these things email me privately to tell me so and warn me.

        People are paid by Big Pharma to pose as “regular folks” with sob stories of dying babies and children that vaccination miraculously saved. And no, I haven’t fully researched the rabies vaccine, but I would likely go the homeopathic vaccination route and not rabies jabs if one of my children were bitten so please don’t assume you know my decisions for me, eh?
        Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist\’s last post: Why Vaccines Are Scientific Fraud

  28. Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
    Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist January 4, 2011 at 6:27 pm

    Am still waiting for the nasty comments from the Big Pharma mercenaries who troll blogs that question their propaganda to start appearing. Perhaps actual graphs and charts illustrating their lies scared them away? Awww, c’mon. Aren’t you going to insult me???? :)

    • Big Pharma is too busy researching, producing, and distributing life-saving medications to bother with your piddly little blog and your “actual graphs and charts”.

  29. Kate @ Modern Alternative Mama January 4, 2011 at 5:02 pm

    We haven’t vaccinated either of our two, either, and won’t. And people just don’t get it. They think we’re basically playing Russian Roulette with our kids. But I’d say vaccinating is a whole lot more like playing Russian Roulette, really. And my kids have had their share of colds and minor things, but…nothing serious. People just don’t get it. They’re scared.
    Kate @ Modern Alternative Mama\’s last post: Organic Clothing- Worth it or Not

  30. Does anybody have any experience dealing with the public school system and not getting the vaccinations? I stopped getting my kids the flu shot when I found that they and my husband end up sick the years they have it and not the years they don’t. I also read the article on the flu being a Vitamin D deficiency and am looking into working more Vitamin D into our diets.

    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
      Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist January 4, 2011 at 6:21 pm

      Hi Sara, here’s a link to a state by state vaccine exemption guide for schools:

  31. Kate @ Modern Alternative Mama January 4, 2011 at 4:56 pm

    This vaccine was actually only invented in order to reduce adults’ missed work time, due to caring for sick kids. They said it would save money and increase productivity. That was really the ONLY reason, they did not believe that chicken pox was at all a deadly illness. However, today’s new parents DO think chicken pox is deadly, because “why else would we vax for it?!”
    Kate @ Modern Alternative Mama\’s last post: Organic Clothing- Worth it or Not

    • I just read recently that because of the chicken pox vaccined, many are now getting shingles later on.

      • i believe if you have had chicken pox the virus stays with you and you are at risk to get shingles. I have a few elderly relatives who never had the vaccine but in fact had chicken pox as a child and later developed shingles.

  32. Vaccines are the medical-industrial complex’s biggest con job right after their cancer con job. No one needs vaccines just as its absolutely ridiculous to fill a cancer victim full of toxic chemo when its toxins that cause cancer to begin with. Kids are ill today because their overburdened with heavy metals, chemical toxins, and poor quality food. The parents keep shoving McJunk down their innocent children’s throat yet they complain when the kids are ill.
    I congratulate all the parents who do their research and stand up for there children, those parents who do not vaccinate.

    • To imply that those who do vaccinate are not standing up for their children is foolish.
      Furthermore, to claim that all vaccines are a waste, con-job, etc.. is preposterous. The majority of Doctors recommend them. It is the same with global warming… lay people may not believe that it is happening but the vast majority of scientists do. Whom do you want to believe?

      • Your first two points are fair, but the second two are tenuous, which weakens your point. Please, can we remember that everyone is likely trying to do their best by their kids? We all sign informed consent forms before any medical intervention. Let’s make sure every person holding that pen is truly informed, then let them consent or not as they choose, without condemnation.

      • Our child contracted Kawasaki disease from the Hepatitis B vaccine. It is a proven FACT that this vaccine causes Kawasaki which is noted in the New England Journal of Medicine. Now our child is living with 12-15 aneurysms in his coronary arteries. We have also almost lost him many times due to vasculitus caused by it. The media has not reported this disease being an epidemic! His Cardiologist was seeing 3-5 cases a month in Florida and in New York. The numbers are also scewed due to misdiagnosis. At the beginning stages it looks like an infection or the flu-high fever, rash, strawberry tongue. The child can die very easily from a heart attack-aneurysms. Never again will we vaccinate. There is no doubt that there is too much money involved in the process. Seriously, look the H1N1 where Kathy Sebelius-Head of Health and Human Services was over dramitizing the facts regarding this virus. Also, you have retired Heads of Big Pharma that now work for the FDA! Don’t you think this could be a conflict?!
        And, Global warming is a proven hoax! Did you not read about the scientists who admitted about “Fudging” the numbers in England? Many Scientists lives have been threatened who have not agreed and are now in court fighting. There is an agenda behind global warming (Propoganda) and it is “Green” alright ($$$$$$$$$$$$$$)! George Soros and Al Gore have been making lots of money off of Global warming. When Cap and Trade Legislation was introduced, Obama said, “Our electric rates will necessarily skyrocket”. This further proves the agenda of using this ideology which (Green) is weakening our economy, leading to the U.S. demise as a strong economic force. Billions of dollars were given to Green companies who are now closed. Sure, if I convince you the world will end then I can jack up prices on everything-Oil, Food and Electric!
        By the way, we do have a Recycling company so I encourage “Green Capitalism”, in other word do it “Without” government money! And, we MUST have oil period! These jobs which are high paying, would get the fires burning on our economy. Do you really think China and India will stop using fossil fuels? That will never happen and they are laughing at us because our politicians are manipulating us in this way. Only Big Corp’s in bed with government are using solar panels in their businesses because they pay no taxes! They are the ONLY ones who can afford to do it! Furthermore, our children are being manipulated into this ideology! For example, in public schools now they have taken God out of the picture so our kids can worship the “Earth” instead! Al Gore says in his speeches, “Don’t listen to your parents, you know more than they do”. Get the picture?
        Don’t be manipulated by the media in bed with elites!

  33. Hi Sarah – I learned last fall when I was doing my own vaccination series on my blog that the paralytic form of polio was actually caused by DDT. You may already know about this, but when I found out I was outraged. Not only was it caused by DDT, but surprise surprise, it also WASN’T contagious! It only affected around 2% of the total people who came down with polio, period. The non-paralytic version of polio was largely asymtomatic in most individuals, and those who did experienced flu-like symptoms that did not permanently harm them. So the two forms of polio were completely different, and the paralytic form was caused by a harmful chemical used as a pesticide! There is simply no end to the untruths about vaccines. Thanks so much for posting this information.

  34. I love you Sarah! Thank you for this info. I felt cohersed and tricked with my first and vaxed until he was 15 months skipping only the chicken pox. Chicken pox? Really people? Just deal with it! Anyway, we suffered through many long nights with our 2 month old, 4 month old, 6 month old and were even convinced to give him Tylenol immediately on receiving the shots which we skipped at 2 months but did at 4. Oh I just feel awful for bombarding his body like that with junk. The saddest thing was I knew instinctively not to do it and tried to refuse the shots in the hospital when he was born but I called the pedi to make our first appointment and they told me i had to do it!

    The second one has never had shots, or even been to see a doc for that matter, I can weigh him and measure him at home tyvm! Pediatricians are nothing more than vax pushers. Ok, sorry, don’t get me started!

    It’s just nice to see some real data to support what my heart knows is right Sarah so thank you truly!

  35. We travel to/work in places where these diseases (and many others) are still worrisome. We did everything we could to mitigate the risk of the vaccines but on-site precautions cannot completely mitigate the risk of the diseases themselves, making vaccination sensible. I nonetheless encountered scare-tactics when I requested a delayed schedule for our child.
    I only add this because the anti-vac vitriol bouncing around the blogosphere is based on the “SAL” – standard American lifestyle, which not everyone enjoys. Education, yes; judgement, no.

    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
      Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist January 4, 2011 at 2:32 pm

      We have such a great need for medical personnel who know the truth and are not swayed by the Big Pharma content control in medical and nursing school. Good luck to you for entering the den of wolves! I’m sure you will be adequately prepared to handle it with much grace! :)

  36. Thanks for another illuminating post. It’s the old cascade effect of mistaken consensus. If you hear something often enough, you accept it as truth. And doctors are no exception.

    I was interested in reading about the role vaccines play in the development of our digestive and immune systems, as well as the impact of other medications, antibiotics, foods and environmental toxins, in the newly revised edition of Gut and Psychology Syndrome by Dr. Campbell-McBride. The lady whose child has eczema may want to read this as well since it’s a related sign of gut dysbiosis — which can be healed, and probably should be healed so it doesn’t develop into something worse down the road.

  37. I was one of those moms that listened to everything my pediatrician told me. I believed every word. I truly believed vaccinations were important…and good…and needed. Then I started to hear the other side. I stopped vaccinating my kids at age 2 and 3. Granted, they have had many vaccinations up to that point. And I have regret for that. But I now thank my Lord and Savior every day that He protected them and gave me the information I needed to make an informed decision, and not a follow-the-heard decision. BTW – since I have stopped vaccinating – they are more healthy, rarely get more than a mild cold in the flu season, and when they do get sick, they are easily treated homeopathically. If you still vaccinate, I encourage you to take time and do your own research. Don’t take my word for it, don’t take your doctor’s word for it. Really look for and at the real evidence. God Bless!

  38. Does anyone have any insight on the tetanus vaccine? I have decided not to vaccinate, but was wondering about this one in particular.

    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
      Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist January 4, 2011 at 2:15 pm

      Hi Jennifer, I had a tetanus booster when I was 19 in order to compete in my college sport of choice. It had a severe neuralgia that started the very next day that gave me severe pain in my chest everytime I took a breath for the next 3 months. If I had it to do over, I would not have gotten this shot and would have found a way to opt out. I do not believe the tentanus shot to be any safer than the others.

    • Kate @ Modern Alternative Mama January 4, 2011 at 4:59 pm

      It is not necessary. Tetanus is an anaerobic disease, meaning it can only thrive in an environment that lacks oxygen. That means even if you step on a rusty nail or something, it it’s open to the air, it does not have tetanus on it. Supposing you were on a farm, and there was a rusty nail in the back of a shed caked in mud…and it actually had tetanus on it…and you stepped on it…. You’d have a 9O% chance of being absolutely fine. Does that sound like something you need to be scared of? Tetanus also is known for causing one of the highest numbers of vaccine reactions, and also for being the least effective (it caused SO many reactions that they had to keep decreasing its strength until it basically doesn’t do anything.
      Kate @ Modern Alternative Mama\’s last post: Organic Clothing- Worth it or Not

      • I’m a biologist and this is not really true. Though Clostridium tetani is an anaerobic bacteria, it forms spores which can survive in very hostile environments. The spores are found in soil, feces and dust and are very resistant to both heat and antiseptics.

  39. God bless you, this is an excellent article. I wrote a comprehensive post (to which I will add a link to this one) at tinyurl.com/vacscreed with tons of good links and info for anyone just starting the research. But you cut to the heart of the matter and don’t beat around the bush: it’s a fraud perpetrated by Big Pharma. Thank, you, thank you, thank you.
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  41. I am just learning about this with teenaged children who have dutifully received all their vaccines. However, the pediatricians are now pushing the cervical cancer vaccine at my 16-year old. Even I notice the commercials state more about the adverse side effects than the actual benefits. My daughter thinks I don’t love her when I tell the doctors no, but she will just need to look at the big picture.
    I am going to pick up the book Toxic Sludge is Good For You at the library today and can’t wait to read even more about how we’re all being duped.

  42. Thank you for this imformation. I will be sharing with my husband. Unfortunately he is still of the “if something would happen I’d feel responsible” mentality when it comes to vaccinating. I, on the other had have the same feeling except with regard TO vaccinating. Our son has has his 2 month vaccinations, spread over two months but I am trying to convince my husband that he does not need to get any more. It’s a work in progress!

    • Danielle,
      I’m not for vaccination, but I can understand dealing with a husband who is could be difficult. You might want to look at the alternative schedule that Dr. Sears has and doing them later. You could also take out the flu vaccinations. When I was looking at the schedule, I realized that there are tons of flu vaccines. (We don’t have kids yet, but a friend of mine is pregnant and making this choice, so I’ve been doing a lot of reading.) Also, have him listen to some of the videos that Mercola has on his site. It is scary because there are so many people who talk about the horrors of the diseases they vaccinate against. The media does a lot to make us fear EVERYTHING!!!!! Good luck.

    • When our oldest daughter was 2, my husband was also hesitant about not vaxing. I asked him to read Vaccines – Are They Really Safe & Effective. It goes into detail regarding each vaccine giving you info on the disease, the history of it, when and how the epidemics declined (like Sarah’s blog today, but in more depth). After reading it, he was OK with not vaxing. Today, 13 years later, he is a strong supporter of not vaxing. There are lots of books out there today on the subject. Try your local healthfood store if they carry books.

  43. Medicine has done much to make people passive about their own health, and also much to harm them. I first saw the statistics on epidemics with vaccines alongside them in a book called Medical Nemesis by Ivan Illich (1982). After reading that book, I was never the same. I began to see doctors as technicians rather than theoreticians, and the thinking individuals were few a far between. For a while, I argued with them (and was a terrible patient, I’m sure) but later I learned that no good can come from that. It’s like arguing with your mechanic. Once you’re in the shop, and your car’s up on the rack, you’re in a position of vulnerability–both physically and psychologically. Women know best about that feeling, but men experience it, too. Nowadays I go to doctors to get a diagnosis, as that is their specialty, and then I go home to decide on treatments. Home is where you can research at your own pace and be a thinking individual.

  44. I made the decision to not vax either of my children. My older one is almost 6.5 and has just now been really sick for the first time (bronchitis). My younger will be 1 year old in 2 weeks and has been healthy as well. He does have eczema (which shows up when he’s fighting a bug) but is otherwise healthy, with an unbelievable amount of energy and a great appetite. Both of my kids have been BF: older for 3 years and younger still going strong. I have never regretted my decision not to vax (my younger has already been through roseola and I never even knew what it was !!). In fact, I pat myself on the back every time a new vaccine comes out or I hear about another side effect…. I’m so glad I educated myself before I stuck my kids. Now I know I will never do it. And don’t even get me started on the almighty flu shot !!! LOL

  45. Yes, this is what I noted when I made the decision not to vaccinate my children. However some people don’t see that (no matter how much you try and tell them!). They want to think they are doing something good by obediently listening to their doctor, that they are saving their child from certain doom. They don’t want to do the research. It’s like big pharma is taking credit for something they never had anything to do with because it’s the only way they can make big money.

    Actually, IRL, it seems most people don’t even know what they are vaccinating against and just do it because, even alternatively minded people. One friend said that anyone who doesn’t vaccinate their kids should be locked up for endangering society. Yeah, like my kids are going to spontaniously develop these diseases and infect the world. And this is my most like minded friend who is supposedly all organic, crunchy granola, and medically alternative open minded!
    Carla\’s last post: Meal Plan Monday January 3rd- 2011

    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
      Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist January 4, 2011 at 8:38 am

      Probably the only reason your friend is into organic and crunchy granola as you put it is because it is now “hip” to do so. I’ll bet she wasn’t into it back when it wasn’t cool 10 or 15 years ago. It’s funny how some folks think they are out of the box when in fact they are just inside a slightly larger one.

      • Well, she’s an older friend (I’m 35 and she’s in her 60′s) and did stuff like homeschool when it was illegal and had an allergy-free home for her kids before environmental allergies were known and raise all their own food so I wonder if it is more of a generational thing.
        Carla\’s last post: Meal Plan Monday January 3rd- 2011

        • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
          Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist January 4, 2011 at 2:03 pm

          That could well be. The baby boomer generation was heavily sold on vaccination back in the 1940′s and 1950′s so it really takes an enlightened and freethinking person in that age group to break out of that line of thinking.

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