BREAKING NEWS: Studies Show Measles Vaccine Spreads Virus

by Sarah Healthy Pregnancy, Baby & ChildComments: 72

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This important news just in from GlobalNewswire regarding the Disneyland measles outbreak:

Should the Recently Vaccinated be Quarantined to Prevent Outbreaks?

Health officials are blaming unvaccinated children for the recent measles outbreak that started at Disneyland. However, with no known status for over 90% of the cases, one blood test showing the patient’s measles was actually a reaction to the MMR vaccine, and only 9 cases confirmed as wild genotype B3 measlesanother likely source of the outbreak is a recently vaccinated individual, according to published science.20

Scientific evidence demonstrates that individuals vaccinated with live virus vaccines such as MMR (measles, mumps and rubella), rotavirus, chicken pox, shingles and influenza can shed the virus for many weeks or months afterwards and infect the vaccinated and unvaccinated alike.1,2 3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,19

Furthermore, vaccine recipients can carry diseases in the back of their throat and infect others while displaying no symptoms of disease.11,12,13

“Numerous scientific studies indicate that children who receive a live virus vaccination can shed the disease and infect others for weeks or even months afterwards. Thus, parents who vaccinate their children put others at risk,” explains Leslie Manookian, documentary filmmaker and activist. Manookian’s award winning documentary, The Greater Good, aims to open a dialog about vaccine safety.

Both unvaccinated and vaccinated individuals are at risk from exposure to those recently vaccinated.Vaccine failure is widespread; vaccine-induced immunity is not permanent and recent outbreaks of diseases such as whooping cough, mumps and measles have occurred in fully vaccinated populations.14,15 Flu vaccine recipients become more susceptible to future infection after repeated vaccination.16, 19

“Health officials should require a two-week quarantine of all children and adults who receive vaccinations,” says Sally Fallon Morell, president of the Weston A. Price Foundation. “This is the minimum amount of time required to prevent transmission of infectious diseases to the rest of the population, including individuals who have been previously vaccinated.”

Please note the image below can be found at the following link on page 113:

care of immunocompromised patient

“Vaccine failure and failure to acknowledge that live virus vaccines can spread disease have resulted in an increase in outbreaks of infectious disease in both vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals,” says Manookian, “CDC should instruct physicians who administer vaccinations to inform their patients about the risks to others posed by those who’ve been recently vaccinated.”

According to the Weston A. Price Foundation, the best protection against infectious disease is a healthy immune system, supported by adequate vitamin A and vitamin C. Well-nourished children easily recover from infectious disease and rarely suffer complications.

The number of measles deaths declined from 7575 in 1920 (10,000 per year in many years in the 1910s) to an average of 432 each year from 1958-1962.17 The vaccine was introduced in 1963. Between 2005 and 2014, there have been no deaths from measles in the U.S. and 108 deaths from the MMR vaccine.18

The Weston A. Price Foundation is a 501(c)(3) nutrition education foundation with the mission of disseminating accurate, science-based information on diet and health. Named after nutrition pioneer Weston A. Price, DDS, author of Nutrition and Physical Degeneration, the Washington, DC-based Foundation publishes a quarterly journal for its 15,000 members, supports 600 local chapters worldwide and hosts a yearly international conference. The Foundation phone number is (202) 363-4394,,


1.        Outbreak of Measles Among Persons With Prior Evidence of Immunity, New York City, 2011

2.        Detection of Measles Virus RNA in Urine Specimens from Vaccine Recipients

3.        Comparison of the Safety, Vaccine Virus Shedding and Immunogenicity of Influenza Virus Vaccine, Trivalent, Types A and B, Live Cold-Adapted, Administered to Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV)-Infected and Non-HIV Infected Adults

4.        Sibling Transmission of Vaccine-Derived Rotavirus (RotaTeq) Associated with Rotavirus Gastroenteritis

5.        Polio vaccination may continue after wild virus fades

6.        Engineering attenuated virus vaccines by controlling replication fidelity


8.        The Safety Profile of Varicella Vaccine: A 10-Year Review

9.        Comparison of Shedding Characteristics of Seasonal Influenza Virus (Sub)Types and Influenza A(H1N1)pdm09; Germany, 2007-2011

10.     Epigenetics of Host-Pathogen Interactions: The Road Ahead and the Road Behind

11.     Animal Models for Influenza Virus Pathogenesis and Transmission

12.     Acellular pertussis vaccines protect against disease but fail to prevent infection and transmission in a nonhuman primate mode

13.     Study Finds Parents Can Pass Whooping Cough to Babies

14.     Immunized People Getting Whooping Cough

15.     Vaccine Failure — Over 1000 Got Mumps in NY in Last Six Months–over-1000-get-mumps-in-ny-in-last-six-months.aspx

16.     Impact of Repeated Vaccination on Vaccine Effectiveness Against Influenza A(H3N2) and B During 8 Seasons





Comments (72)

  • Wendy

    The child in the photo has chicken pox, not measles. It’s sad that these diseases have become unfamiliar because they have long term benefits, like reducing the risk of chronic diseases.

    June 13th, 2015 12:59 am Reply
  • Melissa Coffey

    As of 3/15 John Hopkins took off the warning for chemo patients to abstain from being around recently vaccinated individuals. I am horrified by this disgusting move that puts these patients at RISK. Unbelievable.

    March 12th, 2015 12:08 pm Reply
    • Brian Rogers

      I noticed that! Sneaky. Page 113 is missing the text from the image above.

      March 14th, 2015 1:25 am Reply
      • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

        Yes, Johns Hopkins removed it the day a press release showing what was on that page got airtime from CNBC. CHICKENS! They will only stand by the truth that immunocompromised patients need to stay away from the newly vaccinated when the general public doesn’t know about it.

        I have both downloads though, a before and an after. Should do a post with both of those showing what cowards and liars the Kimmel Cancer Center is.

        March 14th, 2015 7:27 am Reply
  • Alison

    John Hopkins has removed that patient guide from their website recently.

    March 7th, 2015 2:22 pm Reply
    • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

      No, it just got moved to another page. The link is on my post about the measles virus is spread by recently vaccinated individuals.

      March 8th, 2015 7:15 am Reply
  • Dee

    The John’s Hopkins photo-clipping was removed, but only because they’ve revamped their site.

    Here’s a link to the new one

    It’s on page 31 where it speaks on the topic of shedding.

    Took me a while to locate this, using various search definitions.

    February 9th, 2015 12:19 pm Reply
    • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

      Thank you! It is a really long document .. I found the info on page 113.

      February 9th, 2015 5:30 pm Reply
  • Crystal

    If we eliminated smallpox worldwide, why was my whole ship/battlegroup required to get the smallpox vaccine while we were on our deployment? If there was no smallpox, then there would be no reason for continuing to inject people with the vaccine.

    February 7th, 2015 4:01 pm Reply
    • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

      This is an excellent article!

      February 7th, 2015 1:08 pm Reply
    • Debbi

      Wow, that is an excellent article. I am printing it to give to friends and family members. Thank you for posting.

      February 7th, 2015 10:15 pm Reply
  • Lana

    Dr. Tetyana Obukhanych, Ph.D. in Immunolog explains why she does not vaccinate her own child. This is a lecture strictly dealing with measles. As someone who has done hours of research, I found there is information in this lecture, I had not heard anywhere else. I see a few comments here on this blog regarding a mother’s ability to pass immunity on to her child via breast milk, and found it very intersting to hear an immunologist explain that only mothers who acquired measles naturally can pass on adequate levels of protection to their babies. The very population who is most vulnerable is left unprotected now BECAUSE OF THE VACCINE. If effect, the vaccine has taken a mother’s ability to protect her child away at the time when the child needs protection the most.

    February 7th, 2015 3:40 am Reply
    • Lana

      Also, in the lecture is discussed an interesting study where an outbreak of measles occurred on college campus right after a blood drive. This provided the unique situation where it was possible to test antibody levels in the blood of vaccinated students some of whom were affected by measles. It’s too much for me to go into but basically what was realized is that there were only 25% who were high responders and still had antibody levels adequate to protect them from the disease. The low responders experienced full blown measles. The thing I found disturbing, and would like to do further research into this, is that moderate responders could experience flu like symptoms and not even know they had the measles, yet still have the potential to pass it on.

      February 7th, 2015 4:07 am Reply
  • Andrea

    Sarah, thank you for this information! I have a couple of genuine questions: if these vaccines shed for weeks after being administered, and the vaccination rates being what they are, shouldn’t we be seeing MORE (and not less) cases of measles, chicken pox, etc?
    My other question: I’m pregnant. Should I be concerned about my child catching the measles? Is there anything I can do to proctect my unborn baby, in case I were to be around someone with measles?
    Thank you in advance for your response!

    February 5th, 2015 1:53 pm Reply
    • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

      Vitamin C and Vitamin A are the best protection from measles and also for recovering without complications if you get it.

      With regard to the risk of live virus shedding …. as an example, the chicken pox vaccine has suppressed chicken pox in kids but because they shed the virus with no symptoms for weeks after getting vaxed, it has caused an epidemic of shingles in older people whose immunity is weak. At least when kids got chicken pox, they stayed home and stayed away from others. Now, they are making older adults ill instead.

      February 5th, 2015 9:04 pm Reply
      • blanca

        hi sarah,

        can you please explain more about this, i’m confused. the chicken pox vax came out in 95 i believe. most older adults have had chicken pox as children from natural form. so if the children who are shedding the chicken pox virus are getting those older adults the virus because of the vaccine, shouldn’t they not get shingles because they already had chicken pox?


        February 6th, 2015 2:05 am Reply
        • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

          the chicken pox virus never leaves the body completely after you recover (it’s in the same family of viruses as herpes) … you can get shingles later even if you’ve had chicken pox before (or get exposed to it from a child shedding the live virus from vaccination if your immunity is low). I’ve written a post about this … total scam by the pharm companies. Create the chicken pox vaccine and then clean up with the shingles vaccine too. Unfortunately, shingles as an older person is HORRIBLE and very very painful … can even cause death.

          February 6th, 2015 7:28 am Reply
          • Jennifer Marie

            Actually, what you’re saying is the exact opposite of what the NHS in the UK says. They say exposure to the chicken pox virus in adults who have previously had chicken pox is actually BENEFICIAL in PREVENTING shingles. They are against chicken pox vaccination for the general population, but for the opposite reason! To quote: “If a childhood chickenpox vaccination programme was introduced people would not catch chickenpox as children (as the infection would no longer circulate in areas where the majority of children had been vaccinated). This would leave unvaccinated children (there will always be a few who are unable or choose not to have the vaccine) susceptible to contracting chickenpox as adults when they are more likely to develop a more severe infection or a secondary complication, or in pregnancy when there is a risk of the infection harming the baby.

            We could also see a significant increase in cases of shingles in adults. Adults who are naturally exposed to chickenpox (such as through contact with infected children) receive a natural boosting of their chickenpox antibodies which prevents the chickenpox virus (which remains dormant in the body after chickenpox infection) from reactivating in their bodies in the majority of cases and causing shingles.”

            Personally, I am in favor of vaccinating for chicken pox, but just wanted to let you know that at least one medical body contradicts what you’re saying here.

            March 19th, 2015 2:00 pm
  • karen meadows

    I understand why this subject causes such strong reactions, but the energy put into bickering is energy that could be directed into campaigning for changes that would benefit all. Whether pro-vax or anti-vax the level of debate displayed in many of the comments here serves only to generate yawns from the unquestioning masses and derision from healthcare decision-makers. Surely we can up our game.

    The ‘n=1’ arguments from both camps are pointless. If you decided not to vaccinate your child and they have never known a day’s illness this *might* be evidence that you took a great decision for your child. Arguing that it proves vaccination as a concept is dangerous is completely illogical. Conversely, the fact that your grandmother was left deaf after contracting measles in the 1930s proves that measles can be a dangerous illness but does not prove that vaccination is the best thing for everyone everywhere. I have an adverse reaction to tetanus jabs and refuse them but that does not prove that my immuno-compromised neighbour should have done the same when he cut his hand badly on rusty garden secateurs.

    I suspect there are some important elements to the vaccination question that most people on Sara’s forum could agree upon and could put energy into pushing for instead of engaging in zealotic rants. What about the following as ideas?

    1. Doctors should never try to coerce through shunning, shaming, blaming or scare-mongering, whether about vaccination, antibiotics, cancer treatments (see my final para) or anything else. Efforts should be focused on educating the vast swathes of parents who are largely disengaged about their children’s health not on ‘converting’ those who have arrived at a view after much thought and research.

    2. Parents need clearer information about the diseases for which vaccination is recommended. They are not all equal in their prevalence or impact. For example, here in the UK children are not routinely vaccinated against chicken pox, which is seen by most parents as a miserable but not (usually) dangerous disease (in fact ‘chicken pox parties’ are popular on the basis that it’s better to get the illness over and done with at a young age ). On the other hand, most children here are vaccinated against rubella because of its potentially devastating effects on the foetus if contracted by a pregnant woman. I’m not arguing that these policies are *right* just that some vaccines may be more or less justifiable than others. How do parents who are neither fervently for nor fervently against vaccination make an informed choice about TB jabs for example? These have been routine in UK schools for decades. On the one hand we know the disease is on the upsurge again and that historically it was one of the biggest killers (even among those ancestors who were incredibly well-nourished by today’s standards); on the other we have antibiotic treatments that had not been dreamt of when the UK vaccination programme was launched. Parents need better, clearer, regularly updated information.

    3. All vaccines should be made as safe as possible, with the fewest and safest preservatives. Common sense dictates that injecting anyone (young or old) with mercury or other known toxins is risky at best and a recipe for long-term disaster at worst. Even if your general stance is totally anti-vax you won’t be able to opt out should you (or your teenage children) decide to travel to many parts of the globe, so pushing for all vaccines to be made as safe as possible presumably matters to you too.

    4. Parents should have a right to be know which vaccines contain (or are cultured using) foetal material. This is far from clear. Equally unclear is the question whether alternative methods could be used. Just as we expect clinicians to respect vaccination decisions made on health grounds, we should also expect them to respect vaccination decisions made on ethical grounds.

    5. Clear, urgent and accurate advice is required on the confused issue of disease being spread by the newly-immunised. This must be a comparatively easy one for the medical community to give sound advice on, but there seems to be a complete absence of joined-up thinking.

    5. Parents should be free to opt in for some vaccines and out for others and in all cases the vaccination programme should be the gentlest possible. It seems that almost every developed country has a different approach. Rather than arguing in the dark about whose approach is right and whose is wrong, more money should be spent on research into the long-term health outcomes of vaccination and non-vaccination and less on scaremongering, half-baked ‘health education’ material. Yes, vaccines are a rich revenue stream for Big Pharma, but that in itself is not an argument for throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Artificial joints are a rich revenue stream for their manufacturers but few would argue that it’s better to be wheelchair bound than to have a hip replacement.

    Disclosure: My children are young adults so I am not in the position of having to make vaccination decisions for them now. I live in a country that has a comparatively gentle vaccination regime compared with the US and we have a supportive family doctor. We opted for our children to receive some vaccinations but not others. I am not a clinician or a scientist but do work in the field of medical ethics. My son developed a malignant brain tumour at the age of 8, so I have a better understanding than most of the awful dilemmas facing those of you with children with cancer. If deciding on vaccinations is difficult, deciding whether or not to allow your child to receive experimental treatments for cancer is on a whole different level. It makes you realise how difficult it is to get clear, useful, unbiased data, how easy it is to be emotionally blackmailed into going along with the default view of the day, how much advances depend on people having the guts and determination to challenge that view in a calm, reasoned, intelligent way AND how much damage is done to the credibility of such campaigners by people who jump on the bandwagon lusting for a fight and apparently incapable of seeing that these issues are tortuously complex and will never be resolved by bad-mouthing.

    February 5th, 2015 6:17 am Reply
    • John Gregg

      I disagree. I believe a lot of good can come from information like this.

      February 6th, 2015 7:02 pm Reply
  • Stephanie

    Sarah, thank you for all you do! Never give up! Never stop shouting the truth from the roof tops. I believe that the vaccine industry will collapse on itself within 10 years. We have to keep speaking up about it though, to educate the people who follow the media and CDC blindly and do not do their own research. People need to wake up! They shake their heads at us, but one day they will be lowering their heads in shame when they realize the truth. Unfortunately, how this will occur is by more deaths and injuries by vaccinations.

    February 4th, 2015 7:57 pm Reply
  • Dawn Papple

    “another likely source of the outbreak is a recently vaccinated individual, according to published science.”

    Then, you cited my article. Nowhere in the article did anything state that the Baltimore case was likely a source of any outbreak. It said the opposite actually. That was an entirely different strain, and it was an attenuated strain. And nothing I found in any way indicated that she was likely to transmit it to anyone. In fact, everything said the opposite. Just because a person gets sick from the attenuated virus doesn’t mean that they are contagious. The published science, as you stated when using my article as a source, actually indicates that it would NOT be contagious.

    I’m all for vaccine choice, but I oppose misinformation.

    February 4th, 2015 6:00 pm Reply
    • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

      True, as those who been recently vaxed and have no symptoms whatsoever can make others sick with measles which is why they are supposed to stay away from immunocompromised people.

      February 4th, 2015 6:06 pm Reply
      • Jared

        Do you have any evidence that suggests that measles, contracted from the vaccine, can spread to others? Ive not been able to find one documented case.

        In your article you cite the recommendations form John Hopkins to immunocompromised patients where they say to avoid those with recent vaccines. However, this does not prove that there have been documented cases of vaccine strain measles has spread to someone other than the recipient of the vaccine. It simply suggests those with severely compromised immune systems should stay away from those who just received the MMR vaccine. This is very different than saying you can contract measles from those who just received the vaccine. Do you have documented cases to back up your claims?

        The way you misquoted the article from Dawn Papple seems very irresponsible from a journalistic perspective.

        February 6th, 2015 12:16 am Reply
  • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

    Yes, just like the time I blogged about the page on the CDC website where it clearly stated that 100 million people had been vaxed with a polio vaccine in the 60’s and 70’s that was tainted with a monkey cancer virus … it was taken down the same day that post went viral. No worries … the waybackmachine is always there. Here’s the original page on the CDC website that is now gone:

    Anyone know the original link on the Johns Hopkins website? We can get an internet archived copy that way.

    You just gotta wonder when folks are going to wake up and see the monopoly game the authorities are playing with this vaccine issue.

    February 4th, 2015 5:08 pm Reply
  • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

    I’m assuming by your email address you make your living injecting poison into children?

    February 4th, 2015 4:32 pm Reply
    • Fred

      Poison???? You are insane! That “poison” saves lives!

      February 5th, 2015 2:48 pm Reply
      • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

        Inject away, my friend!

        February 5th, 2015 8:57 pm Reply
  • Abbey

    I have read your article with curiosity but I have also checked the sources you cite. I am so curious for example why in your introduction you cite the article (20.) as evidence that a recently vaccinated person may be responsible for one or may cases of measles in the Disneyland outbreak. There is nothing in that story even remotely to that effect. “…health officials did suspect that the baby was suffering from a reaction from her MMR because she had no connections to the measles cases that began in California, didn’t travel, and hadn’t been exposed to anyone who had been recently ill. Still, out of an abundance of caution, health officials acted swiftly to trace contacts and obtain further laboratory testing from the CDC in Atlanta after the initial measles test showed the girl was positive for the measles virus.” I am a college-educated mother with critical thinking skills and a talent for reading comprehension… and a pretty good fact-checker. I am vaccinated and so is my daughter because there is no science that says it’s safer for all or even some of us not to do it.

    February 4th, 2015 9:08 am Reply
  • Cathy

    Ok here goes. The MMR vaccine as well as some other well known vaccines are what are made up from live attenuated viruses of LAV. The are certain things in viruses and bacteria make then able to cause disease, attenuation is a method of removing those things on the virus or bacteria that mean that is can cause the disease. This is done by altering the RNA in the case of viruses. So you have a live virus that can’t cause disease but will have antigens on it that will stimulate the immune response so the body makes antibodies against the virus and those antibodies will also work against the pathogenic version that can cause disease. The body will respond with the typical immune responses so you’ll get maybe a slight fever, you won’t feel 100% and the injection site might be sore or you might feel nothing depending on your immune system. This is because your body is getting rid of the LAV if you have a more violent response to the vaccine that most likely means one of two things 1. you have an immune system on overdrive or 2. and more likely you already have a good amount of antibodies in your system to the same antigens that just got injected and the more antibodies the more fever, aches and miserable you feel as your body fights the LAV. This is why a large number of vaccinations shouldn’t be given at the same time. Because your immune system is trying to battle numerous “infections” at the same time. Now what happens with an LAV is it will multiply in your system until your immune system can get rid of it. So yes your body is going to shed virus during that time but it will be LAV not an infectious virus. The reason that LAVs are preferred in vaccinations is because they mimic the growth pattern of the pathogenic virus because they are then without the ability to cause disease. So you inject a fairly small amount which grows in the body until the immune system has got into gear and gets rid of the LAV. So now you have someone who has a good number of antibodies that are in their system ready to fight if they get infected with the pathogenic one. Now, people can shed LAVs for a long time if they are immunocompromised . Being immunocompromised means that you don’t have a good enough immune system to get rid of the LAV out of your system so it says in there and of course you will shed it. This is why they don’t want newly vaccinated people in contact with immunocompromised people. What can happen in very rare cases is the LAV can mutate back to a virus that can cause disease. It’s also possible for someone to be vaccinated and come into contact with someone with the disease at roughly the same time. It’s rare that it can happen but it is possible. As for people that have been vaccinated getting the disease that is possible 1. the antibodies either weren’t sufficient that their immune system generated or they have decreased with time everyone retains antibody levels at differing amounts. The other possibility is the vaccine that they were injected with wasn’t properly stored and wasn’t as effective because of it. correct storage is in a temperature calibrated refrigerator that is temperature monitored 24/7 as is the room that the fridge is in. Remember this is a living organism so it’s actually pretty easy to kill off if it’s not handled correctly.

    February 4th, 2015 8:41 am Reply
  • Heidi

    When you post statistics of death by measles you start in 1910. Perhaps in another article you could explain how Weston Price discovered robust health in populations untouched by western nutrition. People all over the internet claim vaccines stopped certain diseases. Wouldn’t Weston Price have given us a much wider and more comprehensive view of human disease and immunity, one that goes way back before the western diet? I would bet the populations Price studied had zero deaths by measles. This is probably because measles itself arose in the context of the nutritional degeneration of the species that Price saw rapidly decaying peoples’ teeth during his lifetime, as well as the horrific pollution produced by industry that overwhelms the body’s ability to detoxify and cleanse itself, rendering it weak and vulnerable. If people looked beyond western culture, could they still claim vaccines stopped certain diseases?

    February 4th, 2015 12:20 am Reply
  • Shar

    Thank you for posting. Funny how I knew this almost 21 yrs ago. I read up on vaccinations and the ingredients and concerns and did not vaccinate either of my kids, now age 19 and 21. In the materials I did read back then it did say that those vaccinated were contagious after their Vaccine. One way of spreading was changing their diapers after immunizations, this was in materials I read back then and it covered those in households with other children and the exposure that could result after a vaccine. So this is old news to me. But funny how most people dont read up or know this. Yet anti vaccine people are uneducated? Heck I read everything I could get my hands on before making a decision. Most people I know who do get vaccines just follow blindly what the government says to do and buy into media hysteria.

    February 3rd, 2015 8:38 pm Reply
    • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

      There’s a reason the smartest people and college educated mothers are opting out of vaccines for their children in the highest percentages. Although I know plenty of people without a college degree opting out too, but they tend to have amazing critical thinking skills.

      February 4th, 2015 8:11 am Reply
  • Nettie

    You are correct in that healthcare workers are not give the live attenuated intranasal influenza vaccination (FluMist) because they may come in contact with a patient whose immune system is severely compromised who must be in protective isolation (e.g., an isolation room of a bone marrow transplant unit).
    As for the number of Measles deaths, I am curious how many were actually from the virus itself or from complications of a secondary bacterial infection caused by the virus altering the immune system. Penicillin was not discovered until 1928. This could explain the higher death rate prior to 1930’s. Not to jump diseases but most of the deaths from the Geat Flu of 1918, were due to a secondary bacterial infection call Haemophilus Influenzae and not from the actual flu virus itself. Again, Penicillin had not been discovered yet. Today H. Flu infections can still be a complication of a viral infection but can be treated with antibiotics.

    February 3rd, 2015 4:29 pm Reply
  • Sara

    The cdc has done genotyping on nine of the cases and found them to all be genotype B3. The vax is the A genotype. The B3 genotype was active in the Philippines prior to the outbreak and was likely brought over. Do you any resources linking the current outbreak to genotype A? There was a genotype A outbreak in 2008 but I would like to provide evedence on the current outbreak. See link for source:

    February 3rd, 2015 3:52 pm Reply
    • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

      Thank you for this. This was not known at the time of the press release. The WAPF has updated its press release and I’ve incorporated the changes.

      February 3rd, 2015 4:51 pm Reply
  • Susan

    Labs can differentiate between wild type and vaccine strains of measles. Disneyland was caused by wild type measles. Articles such as these, that portend knowledge of epidemiology are not doing anyone a service.

    February 3rd, 2015 3:43 pm Reply
    • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

      90% of the Disneyland cases are of unknown status as of this writing … only 9 to the wild type and 1 case was a case of measles due to the MMR itself.

      February 3rd, 2015 4:52 pm Reply
      • Brian

        Is your argument that only 90% of the problem is driven by the anti-vaccine people so others should not blame them?

        February 4th, 2015 7:26 am Reply
  • Carrie

    Thank you for this information. I am an advocate of Chiropractic care I found after my children were raised and had been vaccinated. I still fear for the long term affects that may happen after 30 years. We just don’t know. People need to educate and stop living in fear. The amount of vaccines babies and kids receive today is abusive to me, especially when the CDC lies…

    Thank you for the information!

    February 3rd, 2015 3:28 pm Reply
    • Laura Hayes


      I don’t want to post something super long here, but after I read your word “abusive”, with which I wholeheartedly agree, I thought you might be interested to read the comment I made to Lyn Redwood’s recent measles article. Unfortunately, they don’t post comments with their original paragraph formatting on SafeMinds, so it’s one big paragraph, but I think you’ll appreciate it nonetheless :) Laura Hayes

      February 3rd, 2015 4:47 pm Reply
    • Laura Hayes

      One more for you, Carrie! I wrote an article today about what I am now calling “Vaccine Trafficking”. I thought that you, and other readers of Sarah’s excellent blog, might find it of interest, too :).

      February 3rd, 2015 4:53 pm Reply
  • Alex

    Except for the fact that a lot of your cited sources are very old (1995-2007) in which these ‘studies’ have been proven otherwise.

    February 3rd, 2015 1:06 pm Reply
  • Brenay Brock

    I just spoke to the CDC info line and you are wrong. They advise that there is NO RISK of communicating ANY of the diseases in the MMR vaccine. Go to the source instead of pseudoscientific articles that reinforce your personal bias.

    February 3rd, 2015 12:55 pm Reply
    • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

      Oh really? Then why does Johns Hopkins hospital recommend as proper care for the immunocompromised patient to stay away from those recently vaccinated with MMR and other live virus vaccines?

      When will people get that the CDC lies?

      February 3rd, 2015 1:10 pm Reply
      • K

        Live attenuated vaccines are contraindicated for any immunocompromised person. This is because there is a chance of it converting to a live virus and with no immune system to fight it off, those people are doomed. Just look at all the precautions one needs to take when around such people. So this article used the correct information to convey the wrong message. Any person who receives the live or live attenuated vaccine will shed that virus for a week or so. Just like Sabin live polio vaccine which got replaced by Salk killed virus one. Live attenuated vaccines do, however, provide a better and stronger immune response and protection, compared to killed ones. And US military still gets live adenovirus vaccine, but they don’t go around visiting immunicompromised people.

        February 3rd, 2015 8:31 pm Reply
      • Mike

        For the same reason immunocompromised people can’t be vaccinated…their immune systems are not functioning properly. First problem with the claim would be that if the measles virus in the vaccine as capable of producing measles in a person with functioning immune system, it would give them measles. 2nd issue is that if they were shedding virus at a rate to cause infection, the everyone would in effect be immunized via this “infection”. Also the citation on 100 deaths via MMR is simply not true. The only vaccine routinely administered that after follow-up investigation that has shown an attributable death was DTaP, and there was one for that vaccine. VICP list is based on a correlation between receiving a vaccine and an “injury”. All serious ones are investigated individually by the CDC. As an aside, while there have been no deaths in the UIS due to measles in years, world wide deaths prior to widespread vaccinations (1980) were ~2.6 million, down to 540,000 in 2000, further down to 145,000 in 2013. The decrease in deaths 2000-2013 follows an increase in vaccination percentage from 73% to 84% prior to age one. Nearly all of the fatalities occur prior to age 5

        February 3rd, 2015 8:52 pm Reply
      • Ed Kline

        Because there is a huge difference between immunocompromised people and the rest of us. People with AIDS get diseases you and I cannot get. Healthy people do not get measles from people who recently had the MMR vaccine. Unvaccinated people who are exposed to people who actually have measles get it over 90% of the time.
        Also, and this is no small thing, when an outbreak occurs at a place like Disneyland, and the CDC shows that 9 cases are genotype B3, what do you honestly think the other cases originating from the same time and place are? You claim that 90% of the other cases are of unknown status as if this is somehow evidenciary. So far we are 9 out of 10, it’s not looking so good for genotype A.

        February 4th, 2015 12:51 am Reply
      • Ed Kline

        And taking instructions for immunocompromised patients and applying it to the general public is not ‘published science’. Its like saying that because people with AIDS can get Kaposi Sarcoma, so can the rest of us. You’re a very well educated woman, you should know better than to do that. Those instructions are contextual ( the context being for immunocompromised people ) and not applicable to the public at large. If that;s the best you got, you ain’t got much.

        February 4th, 2015 1:00 am Reply
        • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

          Um, that was just one of the examples. It is published science that the public at large not just the immunocompromised can catch measles (both vaccinated and unvaccinated) from a person recently vaxed with live virus.

          The level of denial by many in the pro-vax community is shocking! I understand what scientists must have endured centuries ago when they first told folks that, “Guess what? The earth goes around the sun, not vice versa.”

          February 4th, 2015 8:05 am Reply
          • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

            Reading comprehension is key here. Not 9 of 10 cases, 9 of nearly 100 cases (as of this writing).

            February 4th, 2015 8:07 am
    • Ignacio

      Wasn’t the CDC the place that also said Ebola would not come to the US? Or that handled Ebola without contamination suits till a scandal broke out? Right CDC ftw

      February 3rd, 2015 2:34 pm Reply
      • Kennyboy019

        The CDC said that Ebola would not SPREAD here, and it has not. Cant do anything about the people who get infected somewhere else and bring it over.

        February 3rd, 2015 5:41 pm Reply
  • Kelli

    Bravo, Healthy Home Economist, on this important perspective and annotations! I love Sally’s comment regarding quartantine after vaccination. It’s about time someone pointed out the truth of what is happening on the community level vs. blindly accepting vaccinations as the only solution. We will never hear this common sense advice from the powers that be, but would be a great way to help spread outbreaks. That, and bolstering the immune system with Weston A Price dietary guidelines!

    February 3rd, 2015 12:43 pm Reply
  • kelly

    If that was the case wouldn’t logic point to even more breakouts during the times when vaccinations were at their highest? Where in fact the breakouts have risen as vaccinations declined.

    February 3rd, 2015 12:39 pm Reply
    • AJ

      From my understanding vaccination rates are at an all time high right now in the US. A few months ago, the Today show stated NATIONAL vaccination rates are over 98 percent. Sure there are pockets where rates are lower, but that isn’t neccessarily where the outbreaks are. For example, the Amish don’t vaccinate and they haven’t had any outbreaks in decades. I don’t even see how rates could ever even get much higher because there will always be a percentage that are too young or immunocompromised and can’t be vaccinated at any given time. Back in the 50s it was observed that once 55 percent of a population had Measles that the remaining 45 percent seemed to experience herd immunity. This was later stretched to cover those that hadn’t had measles, but just had been vaccinated for it. The number has increased over the years until today it’s 99 percent that need to be vaccinated in order to obtain herd immunity. It seems more likely that herd immunity doesn’t exist in vaccinated population at all. I’m not sure it exists at all. But instead of recognizing that these illnesses are cyclical in nature, we will probably see an additional dose of measles vaccine added to the schedule

      February 3rd, 2015 3:33 pm Reply
      • Sarah

        Which Amish community are you referring to? Remember that every community has its own rules. Here in northern indiana the Amish groups do vaccinate and in fact advertise vaccination clinic dates in their newspaper.

        February 4th, 2015 4:01 pm Reply
    • Tracy

      That is definitely a valid question, and one that should be considered. Another explanation, though, could be the higher rates of breastfeeding (back when measles vaccinations began) combined with mothers that had contracted these diseases in childhood and therefore passed immunity on to their children. I don’t know if there is documentation on whether measles immunity is known to be passed from mother to child, but there is so much intricacy to breast milk that science has only begun to plumb the depths of. With the decline in breastfeeding, and now larger populations without natural (and therefore, lifelong) immunity, these together could explain the sudden outbreaks with a disease many thought was eradicated. In other words, those early vaccinations occurring when measles was already in decline may not have caused the measles outbreaks that are occurring now, because more of the population would have had natural (and, generally, lifelong) immunity. If that were the case, the vaccinations would have been a moot issue to those who had contracted and recovered from the measles. But with an artificially immune population, perhaps we might expect to see increasing outbreaks as the vaccine-reliant population’s immunity dissipates?

      February 3rd, 2015 4:26 pm Reply
    • Mel

      Another two reasons could be due to the over use of antibiotics in society and the increased immunization schedule affecting and weakening individuals immune systems. As time continues things may only get worse.

      February 3rd, 2015 9:57 pm Reply
  • Laura Hayes

    Thank you for covering this, Sarah. I, too, have written an article about this very recently. I thought that some of your readers might be interested to read it, also:

    February 3rd, 2015 12:32 pm Reply
  • Cora

    Thanks for posting this. If not for your vigilance, I might never have seen that article. Sharing it widely now.

    February 3rd, 2015 12:31 pm Reply
  • Daisy

    Thanks for the facts, but you failed to mention a few numbers. You said:
    The number of measles deaths declined from 7575 in 1920 (10,000 per year in many years in the 1910s) to an average of 432 each year from 1958-1962.17 The vaccine was introduced in 1963. Between 2005 and 2014, there have been no deaths from measles in the U.S. and 108 deaths from the MMR vaccine.

    Could you provide the number of deaths from measles from 1963-2014 (and please include deaths resulting from measle related complications) Vaccinated vs. Non-Vaccinated? Also, if you could include stats on complications as a result of contracting measles? i.e ear infections, lung infections, convulsions, inflammation of the brain (encephalitis) that often causes permanent brain damage or mental retardation.


    February 3rd, 2015 12:06 pm Reply
    • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

      There is a chart of measles deaths in the link to resource #18 all the way back to 1900.

      Very inconvenient truth, deaths from measles were basically gone long before the vaccine came along. Check it out.

      By the way, your list of complications from measles reads like a laundry list of adverse vaccine events! LOL And, with death and long term chronic illness much more likely from MMR than measles itself, it seems Mother Nature’s route is quantitatively and qualitatively safer than getting vaccinated not to mention the threat to the community as MMR vaxed children are shedding live virus for weeks everywhere they go.

      February 3rd, 2015 12:37 pm Reply
      • Karen

        Sarah, thank you. I was curious about the number 17 link as well. When they talk about deaths per year way, way back is that world wide or in the US alone. Also in the years just prior to the release of the vaccine, again that 432, it doesn’t say (maybe it’s implied in a .gov source) that it was a US alone total.

        February 3rd, 2015 2:48 pm Reply
  • Holly

    Great resources…thank you!

    February 3rd, 2015 11:51 am Reply
  • Joan Smith

    Finally! I’ve been waiting to hear this balanced report. I have not heard any mention on the news saying whether the individuals who have come down with the measles are vaccinated or unvaccinated. Just dire warnings that not vaccinating your child is so dangerous, do it right now. I’m wondering how long it will take before vaccination is imposed on all children.

    February 3rd, 2015 11:26 am Reply
  • T

    To reinforce what this article is saying: I have a friend with an auto-immune disease. Her niece was recently administered her 1 year old live virus vaccines and my friends doctor told her she was not allowed to be around the baby for at least a full week so as not would not catch any of the viruses in the vaccination.

    Thank you for the article!

    February 3rd, 2015 11:10 am Reply
  • MaryM

    My daughter (now 19) got measles FROM the vaccines! I didn’t know better at the time. The doctor said it was normal and not to worry about it, and they still did the whole series on her. It seemed wrong to me then, but there wasn’t internet. Ugh!

    February 3rd, 2015 11:09 am Reply
  • lisa

    Thank you for the information, and thank you for taking the time to put together a great list of references.

    February 3rd, 2015 10:57 am Reply

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