Six Reasons To Say NO to Vaccination

by Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist May 25, 2010

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Vaccination is an extremely controversial topic these days. Whatever side of the aisle you may fall with regard to your opinion about vaccination, one thing is for certain. The choice to vaccinate or not to vaccinate is a decision that has the potential to greatly impact the health of you and most importantly, your children for the rest of their lives.

As a result, this decision should not be taken lightly and it should not be made in a vacuum.   In other words, don’t just take your pediatrician’s word that shots are safe.    It is possible for doctors to be wrong.    They are human, after all.   In reality, your doctor is simply parroting the standard line about vaccination from the American Medical Association (AMA) playbook.    If you think you are getting their honest assessment, think again.

You should neither assume shots are dangerous just because your friend down the street doesn’t vaccinate her kids.

The key here is education;  making an informed decision by investigating the facts with an open mind and knowing exactly what you are getting yourself into before you commit to do anything.

With that in mind, the list below will briefly detail to you the reasons why I did not vaccinate my own children and will never consider a shot for them for any reason even in the event of a so called “pandemic.”    Please remember that I come from a medical family.   My own Father (retired) is a MD as is my brother and my cousin (who was a pediatrician, now deceased).    My husband’s mother is a nurse.    There is no shortage of opinions on this subject in my family, I can assure you.

So, don’t use family pressure as an excuse to do what you need to do once you investigate the facts for yourself and make an informed decision.   There is no more foolish choice than to do something because it is someone else’s wishes and not your own.    It is your body, after all and these are your children.   There is no one on earth who knows what is best for them except you and your spouse – not even and most especially not your doctor!   Make your decisions feeling confident in this knowledge.

#1:   Pharmaceutical Companies Can’t Be Trusted

Let’s just list a couple of the (many) times over the past 10 years where a drug or drug regimen has been deemed unsafe and downright dangerous and yet the pharmaceutical companies covered it up FOR YEARS in order to continue raking in the profits for as long as possible.    This should be an easy task.

How about hormone replacement therapy for women?    The standard of care for a menopausal woman for over 40 years was HRT.   Even women with no complaints were advised that this treatment was helpful as it reduced chances for a heart attack and cancer and even helped them feel younger.    Were any, I repeat ANY of these claims true?   Not a whit.   Breast cancer risk is doubled for women on HRT,  41% increased risk for stroke, 29% increased risk of heart attack, and the list goes on and on.

How about Vioxx?    Before this dangerous drug that caused thousands of deaths from heart attack and stroke was finally removed from the market, evidence surfaced that Merck had withheld information and even doctored reports on its dangers years before.    As of November 2007, Merck had agreed to pay $4.85 billion to settle approximately 27,000 cases from victims claiming injury or death of a family member using Vioxx.    While this is a huge sum of money, in reality it represents less than one year’s profits for Merck.   Does it pay for a drug company to lie about a drug’s safety and efficacy?   You betcha.    The risk of payouts to victims from getting sued is lower than the lure of huge and long lasting profits while a drug’s patent protection remains in effect.

I could cite other examples, but I’m trying to keep this post as pithy as possible.   Please comment if you have other examples of pharmaceutical company deceit.    It will help others reading this blog who might still be on the fence about this issue.

Remember the old proverb, “Fool me once, shame on you;  Fool me twice, shame on me”?    These corporate behemoths have proven themselves to be completely untrustworthy based on past behavior.   In a court of law, if such a company were an actual witness, an attorney would never put them on the stand due to a serious lack of credibility.   Are you really going to take these companies at their word that these shots are safe when money and profits are impacted by their answer?

#2:   ALL Vaccines are Loaded with Chemicals and other Poisons

Here is a list of some of the damaging ingredients in the vaccines on the market today:

MSG, antifreeze, phenol (used as a disinfectant), formaldehyde (cancer causing and used to embalm), aluminum (associated with alzheimer’s disease and seizures), glycerin (toxic to the kidney, liver, can cause lung damage, gastrointestinal damage and death), lead, cadmium, sulfates, yeast proteins, antibiotics, acetone (used in nail polish remover), neomycin and streptomycin.  And the ingredient making the press is thimerosol (more toxic than mercury, a preservative still used in many vaccines, not easily eliminated, can cause severe neurological damage as well as other life threatening autoimmune disease). These vaccines are grown and strained through animal or human tissue, like monkey and dog kidney tissue, chick embryo, calf serum, human diploid cells (the dissected organs of aborted fetuses), pig blood, horse blood and rabbit brain.

Can you imagine injecting this stuff directly into your child’s blood?   At least if you ate these ingredients, your body would have a chance to detoxify and eliminate them before any permanent damage could be done.   But, to inject them right into the blood is the most damaging and lethal approach imaginable.    How could anyone possibly think injection of such a cocktail of poison could in any way help preserve and enhance your child’s health?

It sure didn’t make any sense to me.    And, here I am 12 years later, still very happy with my decision NOT to vaccinate my children.

Sadly, I know many Moms with 20/20 hindsight who greatly regret their decision to vaccinate.    I don’t know ANYONE who has not vaccinated and regrets their decision, however.     Which group do you want to be a part of in 10 years?

#3:   Fully Vaccinated Children are the Unhealthiest, Most Chronically Ill Children I Know

One thing that completely confounds me is that there are no studies comparing the health of unvaccinated children to the health of vaccinated children.  This seems like such an obvious study and it should have been conducted decades ago.    Why hasn’t it been done yet?   My guess is because the health of the nonvaccinated children would so totally blow away the health of the vaccinated children that the discussion about the dangers of vaccines could finally be put to bed and the case would be closed emphatically in favor of those that accuse shots of causing chronic illness and auto immune disease.

Update since this post was written:  Vaccinated children are found to be more chronically ill than unvaccinated children with rates for autism, ear infections, ADHD, asthma and allergies as much as 30% higher than unvaxed children.

Take an informal poll of the folks in your circle and see for yourself.   Observation is a powerful tool, so put it to use.   The kids with the most problems – allergies, asthma, ADHD, autism, coordination and other gross motor issues, etc sure seem to be the ones that are right on track with their vaccination schedule, don’t you think?

Even more powerful, ask Moms with several children, some of whom are vaccinated and some who are not.    In my own circle, the Moms I know who have one or two older kids who are fully vaccinated and the younger kids who did not get any shots tell me that, hands down, that the unvaccinated children are healthier and have less problems.

Someday there will be a study that shows that unvaccinated children have many less health problems than their vaccinated peers.   Don’t wait until this study is finally done because it will be too late for your child.

#4:   Other Countries Are Waking Up to the Dangers of Vaccines

In 1975, Japan raised its minimum vaccination age to 2 years old,    The country’s infant mortality subsequently plummeted to such low levels that Japan now enjoys one of the lowest level in the Western world (#3 at last look).    In comparison, the United States’ infant mortality rate is #33.

In Australia, the flu vaccine was recently suspended (April 2010) for children under 5 because an alarming number of children were showing up in the emergency rooms with febrile convulsions or other vaccine reactions within hours of getting this shot.

Need I say more?

#5:   A Number of Vaccines Have Already Had Problems/Been Removed from the Market

Here is a brief list of some of the vaccines that have caused serious injury in recent years.   Please comment with others that you know of if they are not on this list:

- In Feb 2002, GlaxoSmithKline removed the Lyme Disease vaccine from the market citing poor sales when in fact a number of folks who received the vaccine reported symptoms worse than the disease itself such as incurable arthritis or neurological impairment.

-  The Rotavirus vaccine (Rotashield) was removed from the market in 1999 due to an association between the vaccine and life threatening bowel obstruction or twisting of the bowl!   Interestingly, my pediatrician at the time (who was a lifelong friend of our family) had highly recommended that this vaccine be given to my newborn baby at the time.   I trusted my instincts and said no to the shot – am I glad I did!    My pediatrician (remember, lifelong family friend) subsequently dropped me as a patient.   Guess he wasn’t such a friend after all!

- A warning was issued concerning the second Rotavirus vaccine (Rotateq)  in 2007 as it caused the same twisting of the bowel problem in 28 infants (16 of which required intestinal surgery).    This second vaccine has not yet been removed from the market as far as I know.

- Another vaccine that has had a lot of problems but is not yet withdrawn is the Gardasil vaccine for adolescent girls.    Fainting, paralysis, slurred speech are just a few of the reactions reported and yet this vaccine continues to stay on the market.   At least 1600 adverse events have been reported since its approval in 2006, yet doctors are continuing to recommend this shot to their patients.   Why this vaccine hasn’t already been removed from the market is astonishing.

If the vaccines above have had serious problems, the others probably do too as vaccine manufacturers follow the same basic formula when coming up with each new shot.

#6   You Can Always Get Vaccinated, But You Can Never Undo a Vaccination

Procrastination is usually considered a character flaw, but in the case of vaccination, delaying the decision for as long as possible plays to your advantage.    The longer you wait to vaccinate your child, the better.   A child’s immune system continues to develop for years after birth.    The blood/brain barrier does not fully develop until adolescence.     The longer you wait, the more likely your child’s immune system will be able to handle the onslaught with minimal damage.

If you don’t know what to do, don’t do anything!

Conversely, you can never undo a vaccination.   There are holistic therapies that can detox a child from the vaccine’s poison, but the damage that is done can never be 100% repaired.    And, I have NEVER met a fully vaccinated child that is healthier and more robust than a well nourished, unvaccinated child.   Period.

While I would like to convince you to never vaccinate your child, if I can simply convince you to delay it for a few years that is certainly better than vaccinating a baby.     If you can simply commit to waiting until your child is school age to vaccinate, so much the better than if you vaccinate as a toddler and so on.   Time is on your side and waiting is the best policy when it comes to shots.

By the time your child is older, more research will have been done, you will have an opportunity to learn more and become more comfortable with your decision to wait.    Who knows?    Your attitude of wait and see may turn out to be permanent.

Sarah, TheHealthyHomeEconomist.com

 

Comments (739)

  1. To anyone wondering,

    I’m 15 years old, and I have never had a single vaccination since I was born. I repeat, NEVER had any sort of vaccination. The closest thing I’ve had is when they prick your skin for a blood test. I am perfectly healthy. No allergies, no disorders, no nothing. I eat healthy, have the vitamins, and wash my hands often. I haven’t had anything life threatening, can’t remember when I last had the flu. Last time I had a cold was at the beginning of the year, which is to be expected for a high school student. All these vaccines are total trash, in my opinion. To those people that think it is necessary to put all those chemicals in it, NO, its not, there are safe ways, but the companies don’t want to pay for it. To anyone wondering whether or not they should vax their children as soon as they are born. I turned out fine, no health problems whatsoever. Your child is more likely to get problems from those vaccines. I’m living proof that vaccines are unneeded to humans. Our bodies are amazing things, don’t fill it with trash. Some immune boosting vitamins and healthy foods daily and you are great!

    -Josh

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  2. There are valid points here, but I’d just like to point out that if you’ve never met someone fully vaccinated that’s been healthy as a horse and rarely gets sick, you haven’t really met all that many people. Because you haven’t met me and I’m one of those people that rarely gets sick…and by rarely, I mean the last cold I had was two months ago and the one before that was easily 3+ years ago. I can’t even remember the last time I had the flu, I’ve never had pneumonia, and the last time I had any kind of ear ache was when I was in diapers.

    As to the rest,
    #1 – No, pharmaceutical companies can’t be trusted because they are corporations out for profit. In the ideal world where people were honest, it’d be different, but it’s not. So everything must be taken with a grain of salt. That being said, it’s hard to argue with results for vaccines that have been around since the 50s and have been proven to work. Doctors also can’t be trusted and if you’re unlucky enough to get one with an elitist demeanor, man, do I ever feel sorry for you! They don’t like telling you side effects of drugs because they know you’ll resist their efforts to take the medicine if the side effects are particularly gruesome.

    #2 – Vaccines probably ARE loaded with a bunch of preservative junk we wouldn’t ordinarily touch, but what alternatives are there available to make sure that the vaccines are uncontaminated by something growing in them? Besides, when the last time you inhaled second-hand smoke, car exhaust, Sharpie fumes, or anything remotely smelly and full of chemicals? That’s all poison too and we’re exposed to it on a daily basis. Who’s to say that doesn’t affect our immune systems as well?

    #3 – Actually, it’s a bit of a toss up there, at least from what I’ve seen personally. I’ve got a co-worker whose grand kids aren’t vaccinated and are home schooled and they’re always sick, along with their parents, who may or may not be vaccinated. She herself has said that they inherited really crappy immune systems through her. I’ve got two other co-workers who have fully vaccinated kids and go to public school; one set of kids gets sick all the time, along with their mother and the other set only gets sick occasionally. My father used to get sick all the time, but he started taking extra vitamins with my mom and he rarely gets sick at all now…and this is for a fully vaccinated, publicly schooled guy who almost died from whooping cough when he was a little kid. My mother, brother, and I are all vaccinated and went through the public school system; while my mother doesn’t get sick much anymore, my brother does occasionally because he’s in college. Frankly, I think a very large contributing factor is what kind of immune systems we end up getting from our parents and what we’re exposed to all throughout childhood–I played in dirt right up until high school, but have helped with yard work since I could hold a rake, so maybe my immune system is better for it. My parents kept a clean household and taught my brother and I to wash our hands regularly. There is no autism, asthma, ADHD, or allergies (beyond an inherited lactose intolerance) in my family. So I take that claim of vaccinated children getting sick more often with a grain of salt.

    #4 – Good for those other countries, but were there other factors involved? Like contaminated vaccines?

    #5 – I haven’t been a fan of the HPV vaccine since it came out, since it seemed like a hasty release in reaction to the discovery that HPV causes cervical cancer and there’s no way to tell if it was or was not appropriately tested. I still wonder if it will cause fertility problems in the people that have gotten it, though I hope that is not the case.

    #6 – I would rather people waited or spaced out their vaccines than never got them at all. The diseases the usual childhood vaccines protect against are things that can really do some damage if there are complications. So, yes, you can’t undo a vaccination, but you also can’t undo paralysis from polio, sterility from mumps, miscarriage from rubella, pneumonia from measles, or lockjaw and death from tetanus. Wash your hands after going to the bathroom, after you play with an animal, or handle raw meat, and cover your mouth when you sneeze (and then wash your hands if it wasn’t into your sleeve). If people just washed their hands, I’d be infinitely happier. People are filthy. That’s why we get norovirus outbreaks in schools and assisted living facilities–someone didn’t wash their poopy hands.

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  3. I believe in vaccines but I also come from a country with universal healthcare where the medical industry can’t afford to cheat because the state buys medical supplies in bulk and losing such a big customer is ridiculously bad business. There are also tests done to make sure the children vaccinated aren’t allergic to the various chemicals in the vaccine.

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    • Where are you from?!? After studying a lot on this subject it is clear to me that many vaccine issues would be completely resolved if people would look at the health of the child before the vaccines; including what they may be allergic to. The majority of children do not have allergies, but sooooooooooo many do that there are a lot of parents that are logically opting out bc we have this one size fits all attitude about medcine. A country where the gov tests for allergies is a smart one doing preventative things for the people that would save money in the long run I’m sure.

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  4. Just thought I’d share this study done in Japan for anyone wandering around the comments section like I just was. They bred mice to avoid developing autoimmune disorders then injected them several times with antigens (they used Staphylococcus entertoxin B). After 7 injections their immune systems stayed intact, upon the 8th they started to develop autoimmune disorders.

    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/salud/salud_vacunas131.htm

    C’mon people…

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  5. I fully agree with this article. Vaccinations are dirty and cause so much harm/damage. I stopped bringing my daughter to her pediatrician because we disagreed on the matter. I’m glad we did though because I disagreed with most of her viewpoints. The body is amazing and possesses the ability to heal itself when the necessary tools are provided. Vaccines are NOT one of them.

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    • I completely agree with this article as well. I really dont understand the ignorance of the unvaccinated causing the vaccinated to get sick n die. How is that possible when in general, the unvaccinated arent even the ones sick? Its the vaccinated. The fact is you cant control the entire world. There will always be people from other countries that come here and are not vaccinated. If you believe vaccines work, then its not possible for you to be at risk. SO the only reason theres any kind of concern is because they DONT work. And people will continue to believe that vaccines wiped out certain diseases when in fact, better hygiene and access to clean drinking water is responsible for that.
      I dont make a habit of criticizing someone else’s parenting. I dont agree with others doing it.
      My responsibility is to my children, not the whole world. I do what is truly best for them, not what someone else who doesnt know my child thinks.

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      • Yes your children are your responsibility, that’s true. BUT I’m finding it very very sad that you think vaccines didn’t aid in controling and erradicating diseases when so much scientific research has proven otherwise. Yes, clean water and better hygiene has greatly helped, but vaccines where a part of it too……

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          Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist October 7, 2014 at 7:53 pm

          There is no scientific research proving vaccine efficacy. It’s just been repeated so often people think it’s true.

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  6. am having a 2 months old baby to whom we have already given some vaccination , then only i came to know about the side effects of vaccinations, can i stop the vaccination now or it will give severe effect please advice as soon as possible….

    please reply

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    • You do not need to continue to vaccinate and your baby will be totally fine. The sooner you stop vaccinating the better for the immune system. No vaccine will improve the health of your child, nor will the immune system be healthier from vaccination. We have four healthy children who have never been vaccinated.

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  7. I am a nurse and have also studied as a nurse immuniser and I would never force anyone to have a vaccine, some people really believe in vaccinations and others are opposed to them. As an immunisation nurse I questioned the number of vaccines children were given per visit and I was very concerned about single vaccines with multiple viruses in them. However I was severely attacked by those who believe in vaccines and many of them had no medical training.
    Whilst I have no problem with single dose vaccines given independently, I am very concerned that children receive multiple vaccines given at one time and the vaccines containing multiple viruses. I also have a problem with mandatory vaccination, because it violates people’s civil liberties, human rights, and privacy. Furthermore I am not convinced that the immunisation schedule is safe or effective in preventing diseases.
    Now as you can see, some nurses are very honest about their concerns. Luckily I didn’t have to administer many vaccines, because I really don’t support the vaccine agenda particularly after doing my own research on the issue.

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  8. Umm….really? The information you site has little do with childhood vaccines. And while I’m against vaccinating kids at 30 minutes old and then pumping them with 26 more vaccines, there is something to be said about having vaccines against polio and smallpox and other incurable deadly diseases especially in a world that shrinking and becoming more and more global. Have you thought about what would happen if your kid got measles, rode the bus and infected a newborn?

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    • Ummmm…really? Are you aware that as of 1972, there is no longer vaccination for small pox? Are you also aware that the last reported case of smallpox was in Somalia in 1977?

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      • You realize there hasn’t been a case of small pox since the 70s BECAUSE of vaccines and the disease is now eradicated. No need to vaccinate for a disease that kids have no chance of getting. I’ll gladly vaccinate my child against diseases they can get.

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        • Smallpox vaccine INCREASED smallpox cases and only a small number of people ever got it; somewhere around 15%. The real reason there is no small pox anymore is the quarantining of the people who had it and their contacts. Please, do some research. And I sincerely hope your child is not harmed by your uneducated and misguided belief.

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    • Just because polio and measles may affect somebody doesn’t mean they will “die from it” or that it is a deadly disease. In fact most of the people who did catch such diseases didn’t die yet the CDC exaggerated the number of people who did die in order to claim that this was an epidemic. Moreover, it is stated that within 30 days of receiving a vaccination, if the person shows symptoms of the disease, he/she is said to have already had the disease. Doesn’t that make you question the safety of these vaccinations? We are too trusting in our medical industry that clearly profits on the decline of our health. Maybe you should check your facts and develop a more informed conclusion. The body has the ability to heal itself. Western medicine has made us ill and will keep us ill until people realize that there are better approaches to optimizing our health and immune systems.

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  10. please be informed before vaccinating. A little goes a long way, and you do not need to vaccinate before one year of age!

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  13. Death the Day of Vaccination May 8, 2014 at 4:10 pm

    I see this is a very controversial subject, I came to this site looking for answers and with most issues dealing with infants there are several opinions. I did not give birth to my twins in Feb. this year however was placed as their guardian at birth. They have been in my care since birth, 1 girl and 1 boy. We started at the maternal mother’s home, where I’d moved in to give her a chance at mothering her 5th & 6th child as the others had been taken and placed with our mother thru Children Protective Services.

    From the beginning both babies were congested. The girl however recovered. The boy continued w/ his congestion and it was brought to the attention of the pediatrician at every visit. The baby boy’s symptoms progressed from normal congestion to labored raspy breathing, not so much that he couldn’t breath on his own but enough to cause concern again brought to the attention of the pediatrician at the 3 appts. prior. The last 3 full days of his life he also had problems w/ his poo, which turned from green to a very dark more consistent substance that appeared oily, he being the heavy eater he was could not drink his bottle at night and became very irritated. I called the pediatrician on the 2nd day after hours and when no return call was made I waited because their two month appt was schedule the next day and thought it to be a passing bug as he seemed to be better in the day. I’d also gone over the concerns with the doctor, who also had the family history of food and natural allergies, anemia (one sibling with sickle cell anemia) and another with diabetes. He gave his explanation and recommendations and continued with their vaccines at approx. 2:30p. The doctor said the babies may be cranky, have fever which is less common now and sleep more.

    Twins run our family with 4 sets on the maternal side over two generations. One of the mother’s of the twins, who are now adults, would wake the other when one woke to feed and change them at the same time. I practiced this only in the evenings as their normal schedule was to wake within an average of 30 mins from the other. This evening however when the baby girl woke at 11:30p, I checked on them both and feed her near her brother watching him sleep but leery of waking him because of the doctor’s words. At approx. 1:15a my partner woke me from the couch to let me know the baby girl was warm, I’d turned the heat on when we arrived home to warm the home and hadn’t turned it down. I felt her and didn’t believe it to be a fever, before taking her temperature, I was removing her clothing. My concentration was on her, my partner felt her forehead again and then her brother’s and said ‘see she’s warm and he’s cool’. When I touched him he was too cool and I noticed mucus in both nostrils…. a few hours later after I tried reviving him w/ the assistance of 911, the medics did what they could to revive him and the emergency room doctors all tried saving him he was pronounced. That was on April 17th, 2014, 3:30a.

    There’s an autopsy being preformed which has ruled out the visible or natural causes thus far. The toxicology report can take a few more weeks. Without the results I do not know whether the vaccines caused his death but I and a few other’s in the family have had adverse reactions to the flu shot. The department of medicine recommends almost to requirement the vaccines that he had. I was not given the sheets to read over explaining the several different types of vaccines he had. He was 4 wks premature and just at what’s considered under weight. If born early shouldn’t his 2 mos shots been conducted at 3 mos? If sick shouldn’t they have been delayed until he was better? If I had woke him when his sister woke would he still be here?

    Consequentially last Thursday his sister had a very hard time breathing and it took us over 5 minutes to regulate her. It was before 7a in the morning and I again left an urgent message w/ the doctor’s answering service. While waiting on the call I placed lil baby girl on the couch next to me with my hand on her chest and tears in my eyes as I watched and felt her chest move up and down. Again the doctor did not call back. His office opened at 9a, I called at 8:58a and 9a am (no answer) at 9:03a I was able to reach the office and told them what happened and asked if I could bring her in. Instead of listening to my concerns the doctor told me why not to worry, he didn’t say research shows but might as well have. During the conversation with him I told him I believed she had allergies to pollen and possible congested like her brother had been. His response, Baby Boy was congested? I’d also asked him about the warnings I read during that sad evening when the medics wanted to know what vaccines he’d received. The warnings said do NOT take this vaccine if you have severe allergies. I asked at 2 mos. how would we know, the doctor’s response was we wouldn’t but the risk (meaning reactions or fatalities) is low.

    People, especially babies, are not guinea pigs were are individuals and although research shows we must be taken on a case by case basis. 100 or 100000 study cases and the determination is not my baby’s case. Baby Girl has a new physician at an amazing office, nurses who care and don’t give you the feeling they are running babies through an assembly line.

    Although many of you may not agree with the article above please if you have babies consider your family history and research, research, research. Allow the vaccines that do NOT give warnings and the alloted intervals and wait the 6 to 9 mos to have for your baby to have an allergy test done before allowing the others. (Baby Girl had her’s and we are waiting on the results) Argue with the doctor for what you’ve found, I did but did not push the issue once he gave his lame rebuttals. Vaccinate or Not?

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    • This is an incredibly sad story and I feel for your family’s loss. The doctor did not seem to be concerned with the health of his patients but more so keeping vaccinations on schedule at all costs. Clearly your child required more attention and this was flagrantly overlooked. May we not allow this child’s story to be forgotten and continue to warn others about the dangers of vaccinating babies at such an early age. There is enough money keeping stories like this in the dark and funding the pro-vaccination agenda. We need to do our part as a grass-roots resistance to these practices. Thank you for sharing this and may God watch over you and comfort you always.

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    • I am so sorry for the loss of your sweet little boy. Glad you have a new physician now.

      Please get a copy of Neil Miller’s Vaccine Safety Manual as soon as you can, and watch Silent Epidemic (free on youtube) and The Greater Good if you can. There is another book, Vaccine Epidemic.

      Of course, many many studies have been done, and an honest look at many of these show that there ARE vaccine dangers. A lot of politics are involved with vaccines.

      Please, please hold off until you are sure. I would love to talk more at katiecrystal23 at yahoo.com, too.

      God bless you and your family. Again, so sorry for your loss. Your little boy is with Jesus.

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    • Keep in mind correlation is not causation. There are too many unknown factors that play a role in IMR. The numbers represented are from a relatively small sample size. Especially from all the data that is availble to draw from.

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      • And by the same token, we can’t say that vaccines “eradicated” disease just because it appears to have declined around the same time (which with polio is obviously not the case and instead polio was re-classified–much more narrowly that time).

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  17. This is not a credible source to make such a decision: protecting your child from preventable, horrid diseases..or not.

    This is a blog; a badly-written, heavily biased one at that.

    JUST LOOK at countries that do not have vaccination capabilities – they’re literally parents half across the world begging for vaccines for their children.

    Everything on this post can be easily argued as invalid. Shame on any parent leaving their child vulnerable to polio, mumps, rubella, etc b/c of garbage websites like this.

    Get your child vaccinated. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO IT! You think you’re sticking it to the corporations by not protecting your child against hepatitis A, B?

    You think you’re protecting your child from poisons and chemicals by not vaccinating them? There is more mercury in a can of tuna than a flu vaccine… anything can be a poison if used improperly. Antibiotics are poisons, but they have therapeutic advantage in certain doses….

    All chemicals used in vaccines are to invoke a stronger immune response within the host – THIS IS HOW LONG-LIVED IMMUNITY IS CREATED.

    You may not need a flu vaccine for yourself – but by protecting yourself, you prevent spread to weaker-immuned individuals… herd immunity. It’s real. It works.

    This Jenny Macarthy, Jim Carry Green Movement crap is going to kill thousands of children before statistics catch-up and start showing the public – AGAIN – how unbelievably retarded not vaccinating their child is.

    To those who don’t vaccinate, I weep for your children.

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    • I am using this comment in my report about vaccination against measles, do you have any qualifications that I could refer you with to help my argument in my report

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    • And I think your stupid for saying people who don’t vaccinate thier kids are retarded … Your retarded everyone has the freedom of speech it’s thier kids not yours , don’t judge and if a study has not been done to kids that’s vaccinated and kids that are not who are you to say anything if you have a stupid comment keep it to yourself , this blog is informative to people and parents looking to do information on this type if thing every kind if information is good information it depends on what you as a individual does with it… I get that you have a opinion but try and be more open minded and more polite Thank You! Ladies your the mothers only you can make the decision what you feel in your heart is always the write decision weather you decide to vaccinate or not

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    • I have never been vaccinated… You shouldn’t weep for me… I am 31 and in great health. I had far less health issues as a child than my cousins who were vaccinated. I did catch chicken pox… From my vaccinated cousins. And it wasn’t that bad lol. I had never set foot into a doctors office until I had my son at 17 whom I vaccinated because his father wished it so. 13 years later I have a 5 month old. She is perfect. Breastfed. Would you believe my vaccinated son would have to be rushed to the hospital with high fevers 3 times by the time he was my daughters age with ear infections and she has never been sick. So from personal experience I’d say the eveidence is clear. I had two sister and one brother. My sisters are near 40 and in perfect health. One sister is a teacher and believe it or not we aren’t spreading diseases to people around us so I call BS.

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    • You have been brainwashed, much the same as the majority of sheople who believe government propaganda that we need to let them inject our innocent children with harmful substances. As mentioned in an earlier post with regard to high levels of harmful metals ingested they travel through the digestive system giving the body a chance to rid them before entering the blood system. These butchers are injecting these harmful chemicals and metals directly into the bloodstream of innocent children. Shame on you for allowing this and more shame on you for giving educated PEOPLE a hard time for wanting to protect their children from corrupt government scare mongerers and dodgy pharmaceutical corporations.

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  19. I’m sorry, besides being a parent. What are your credentials? Are you a doctor? Scientist? Epidemiologist? Any parents on here should do their homework before opting not to get their kids vaccinated. This means talking to health care professionals and not listening to your friend who knows a friend of a friend that had a child have an adverse reaction to a vaccine.

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  20. As a neonatal nurse, it is appalling that an article like this is considered “evidence” to not get your child vaccinated. There are no facts represented here. I feel sorry for those new mom’s who are getting fed this information from the media instead of listening to health care professionals who have studied and had first hand experience with this for years. This is a serious situation and the “information” displayed here is irresponsible.

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    • i am in full support of you… who ever you are. Firstly if you are trying to discredit this person by asking there credentials, who are you and what has motivated you to writ this. If you where a doctor or nurse they you would know how annoying it is, when people use non academic articles to back up their writing. So i pose this to you have you ever herd of a case with absolute circumstance where vaccine has altered the life of a child. Furthermore if you find it please present it to me. I am currently looking for such information and had to stoop to as academical low and accredited as your site to find peoples rash opinions towards vaccines. the truth is that there are some reaction, and there are suppose to be because the way in which vaccines work is by making your body fight off a lesser disease to be able to be prepared for a worse one.

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      • Will someone please translate Brayden’s comment for me? The prose appears to be some form of English but I cannot be certain. My degrees in English Writing and related fields are failing me in this instance. I was able to glean from it that he supports vaccinating children. The remainder however remains cryptic.

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    • i think you should just remove my comment
      for your sit to be successful it must be completely bias and my opinion ruins it

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  21. Everyone against vaccinations are morons. Vaccines have eradicated diseases such as smallpox and have protected millions against other harmful diseases. The number of people who have suffered as a result of vaccination pales in comparison against the number of people who have benefited. I don’t know where some of these anti-vax people get there information from but clearly it is from no-one who knows what they’re saying.

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    • Diseases are never eradicated! Smallpox and several other illnesses are less and became radically less before mass vaccinations were introduced! main reason is : huge improvement in general communal hygiene, personal hygiene..cleaner drinking water, a bit better nutrition did go a long way! Now that poverty is making a come back even in Europe “eradicated” TB is back in shocking numbers! Big cities, lots of people indoors /classrooms, factories, , not well ventilated offices.. etc/ are hotbeds of infectious diseases. Logically, fresh air, regular exercise, work on fresh air.. is a “remedy” or by modern term “prevention”.Just remember the so often mentioned big pests , plagues of medieval times.. they all happened in big European cities…, while village dwellers, who were not confined usually always stayed intact! Read Bocaccio’s Decameron! Also in Eastern Europe we did not have big plagues either, because there were no big cities, and village dwellers did not get the infections! Also there was no hunger, even the poorest peasant had relatively good nutrition, and best quality drinking water! People who did not die in constant wars did live long and healthy lives.. without vaccinations and medical establishment. XIX. century XX. century population without medical “care” well lived and lives into their late 80-s 90…but younger generations now with all the “benefits” of “health care” industry.. are starting to have shorter life expectancy, and live that shorter lives with lots of ailments which are being “managed:

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  22. I came here looking for some anti-vacc evidence, something solid that would change my mind. This article sounds like it was written by another internet-educated fear-mongering moron. And the comment section is the same as all the others I’ve read — a million people all claiming they went to medical school and now they hang around blogs making very non-educated comments.

    Very disappointed, but not surprised. Thanks for bringing mumps, whooping cough, and polio back from the dead. Disgusting, uninformed, ridiculous.

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    • Rich! Don’t be theatrical! me myself and everybody in my generation did go through all of the childhood diseases.. no one died.. everybody is protected for life… we all all alive and relatively healthy. BUT younger generations who had all crap vaccinations are suffering from dozens of ailments we haven’t even heard about, an will never be Healthy! My daughter’s pediatrician with 40-45 years of experience said from the vaccines “they might not get that certain illness we are vaccinating against… but they still might… BUT THEY WILL GET ALL OTHER AILMENTS we can and we can not even dream about” Children with chronic upper respiratory symptoms, cold and flu like symptomps, diabetes, allergies are all long term “side effects” We try to avoid one single illness and bring along 10 others…..” A lot of parents who are doctors of medicine did not vaccinate their children.. and recommended the same for friends and family….it is easier to treat measles , rubeola, chicken pox.. etc than manage “conditions” for a lifetime.. what is going to be shorter than ours or our mother’s and grandmothers.

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  23. Dear Lord…I don’t even know where to start. Honestly, though, I doubt it will matter as you probably have your mind set and aren’t going to respond to reason or science. But that would be making an assumption.

    Point 1: Don’t trust pharmaceutical companies. Really, that’s your first point? Don’t trust science either then since some scientists have been wrong and some have lied about their science…like the guy who said autism was linked to vaccinations. Don’t trust any group then since there will always be groups that are out for themselves.

    Point 2: Vaccines are full of poisons! And bread is made from the same stuff that they make yoga mats out of. Did you also know that water is toxic? It can kill you after all.

    Point 3: No study’s have been done showing that vaccinated kids are healthy and your “experience” says that they’re not. How about: “Vaccination Status and Health in Children and Adolescents” by the NIH. They showed that health isn’t dependent on vaccinations…not that vaccinated kids are unhealthy. The point of vaccinations isn’t to make them healthier…it’s to prevent diseases that can kill. Do you not understand that distinction?

    Point 4: Other countries. So, the study this is based on just shows correlation and does not, at all, show causation. The prevalence of autism has also increased at the same rate as the number of automobiles in the road. So, I guess it’s obvious that it’s cars that are causing this.

    Point 5: Some vaccines have been pulled so get rid of them all. Ever heard the phrase throwing the baby out with the bathwater? Yeah, that’s what you’re doing.

    Point 6: You can always get vaccinated. Sure, you can, but a vaccination doesn’t do any good once you’ve contracted the disease. You can also always buy life insurance or car insurance or you could brush your teeth anytime, so you may as well put those off until you really decide you need them…you know, once you die, once you’re in a car accident, or once you don’t have anymore teeth.

    None of your arguments were based on science and most were argumentums ad populum which is a type of logical fallacy.

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    • We tend to believe since the XVIII. century that science is the ultimate good, true reliable source of what is right and what is wrong. However for the last good half a century science is rather a marketing vehiculum. Now days “scientific research” is totally governed by business interest, many times mere joke. When I here about “scientists and researchers in “London” or “British researchers” I know the rest of the report or article is going to be a mere nonsense.. e.g British researchers found out that if we don’t sleep well we will be irritable.. and staff what even the illeterate did know anywhere 500 or 2590 years ago… and that is becoming labeled as science more and more…. Progress is never linear / big lie/ always circular, and science is definitely not at it’s progressive phase now.

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    • Thank you! Typical answer.. you don’t have the knowledge to decide about your health or your child health.. never ever in the history of mankind’s liaison with nature “natural sciences”deep intervention into the coarse of nature was proven to be ultimately beneficial in the medium or long run! What medicine does in the name of science is overdoing, out of balance and proportion. Whatever was meant to be good, but administered now in overwhelming amounts .. is turning around and becoming harmful. We have fallen over on the other side of the horse.. from no remedy.. to too much… from hunger… to obesity… from overworking to joblessness… , from strenuous work to no exercise at all.. and these phenomenons are becoming our biggest enemies now! ‘arány-erény” alias proportion is virtue!” In small amount remedy in big amount poison” true predicament for human endevor!

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      • “It’s best to use moderation in everything, including moderation.”

        Are people on here truly upset at folks reading reasons to delay injecting their children with who knows what, at least until doing their own research?

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  24. Thank you… People like you are the reason that completely preventable diseases such as measles is having a resurgence.

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    • Isn’t it funny how the more vaccines the CDC keeps adding the vaccine schedule, the more prevalent these diseases seem to be? Didn’t they just add a 3rd dose of the MMR this past year? And now there are all these measles “outbreaks”.. or at least that’s what they call it when 15 people in a population of 9 million contract a disease.
      Were you aware that the MMR vaccine is a live virus vaccine that can shed the virus to others? If anything I should be concerned about being around a vaccinated person. Hate to burst your bubble but It’s not the unvaccinated people causing these outbreaks, it’s the vaccinated. Speaking of bubbles, feel free to go live in one if you don’t like that there are unvaccinated people all around you… And I assure you there are plenty considering 70% of the adult population doesn’t have the recommended boosters.

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      • A population of 9 million? Are you talking about the United States? The United States has a population of around 317 million. If you can’t even get close on that fact, I wouldn’t trust anything you say. This virus is attenuated, meaning it’s virulence factors are no longer viable. A virulence factor enables microbes to achieve infection and disease. If the microbe is avirulent than it becomes just like the billions of commensal microbes already living in your body. Very rarely does this virus transition back into the virulent form and cause disease.
        A little information from a place called the CDC:
        Each year about 60 people in the United States are reported to have measles. But in 2013, 189 people have been reported to have the disease. This represents the second largest number of cases in the U.S. since measles was eliminated in 2000.

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        • I was actually refering just to the population of New York where recently 15 people have been confirmed to have measles.
          According to the CDC, there were 86 cases of measles in 2000. So being that there were 189 cases in 2013, somehow 103 more cases (in a population of 317 million) is considered an outbreak?
          And I will correct myself. It was in 2011 where the 3rd dose of MMR was added to the childhood vaccine schedule. I would hardly call it a coincidence that this happened to be the year with the highest number of cases of (222) since 2000.

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        • Und was?????? reports.. statistics…. does not really matter if 60.. 66.. 189. 236 etc in a population of 300 million. There are many more which are not on the statistical bulletin…. anyhow mild childhood disease, which does have it’s role in early immune development, and simply and easily treatable! What about the epidemic of childhood cancer, diabetes, autoimmune diseases, all sorts of allergies, autism etc.. numbers already in the hundreds of thousand s and millions… not easily treatable.. potentially lethal, but definitely crippling life long conditions.. What about those high rocketing numbers of cases, what we did not have before this crazy frenzy of vaccinations? Measles has never been eliminated.. reports were made about elimination…… the plague is not eliminated either.. making a comeback.. such as cholera, Tb etc… with a growing number of people living in utmost poverty…… rich part of the world is trading relatively mild illnesses for much worse,and is beating the tam tam in joy! I prefer the known bad than the unknown heralded good…

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          • Thank you, couldn’t have said that better myself. I’m so fed up with people saying that this new era of sick children being diagnosed with cancer, autism, diabetes, etc is no way related to childhood vaccines. BULLSHIT!!! I will gladly take a weekof the measles over a life long disease like diabetes.

          • Measles was eliminated in the United States in 2000, check CDC’s website. It is purely irrational to say vaccines are the cause of autoimmune diseases, cancer, allergies, and autism. That’s like me saying, as ice cream sales increase, the rate of drowning deaths increases sharply. Therefore, ice cream consumption causes drowning. Correlation doesn’t equal causality. Undoubtedly, there are several factors that contribute to the increase of those conditions. For example, genetics, lifestyle changes, environmental pollution, better diagnostics, less exposure to microbes (not from vaccines but from merely not being outside as much, over use of sanitizers, inappropriate use of antibiotics ect), and unhealthy eating. If you can provide an original peer-reviewed medical study that can even link vaccines to the conditions listed above I would gladly read it. And yes, you can trust scientific research papers. I conduct research at a university and I can assure you in no way is there any business/pharma conspiracy theory behind most lab findings. Scientist aren’t in research for the money, we don’t get paid much. We go through 8 plus years of schooling for the love of science and the search for truth. I don’t know any scientists who would fudge the data, possibly causing harm to human beings, I’m sure there are some out there ( Dr.Wakefield or I mean Mr.Wakefield). Lastly, I’d take asthma over being paralyzed or died from polio any day.

        • I would like to correct this statement of yours: “Hate to burst your bubble but It’s not the unvaccinated people causing these outbreaks, it’s the vaccinated.”

          So before we blame the unvaccinated and vaccinated for new cases of a once eradicated disease, we look at something called epidemiological studies. They actually have linked the measles cases in the United States to foreign travel. Specifically, in unvaccinated Asian adopted children carrying the Measles virus.

          “Measles Outbreak Associated with Adopted Children from China — Missouri, Minnesota, and Washington, July 2013″

          http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6314a1.htm

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        • Your application of the straw man argument is showing (and causing you to appear desperate in your attempt to discredit her). Nowhere did she state or intimate that the US population was 9 million. I surmised (not ASSumed, as did you) that she was referring to the population of the State of Georgia (in which the CDC is located). It’s population as of 2012 was between 9 and 10 million.

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  27. I think you are a terrorist. How do you explain vaccinating the developing world and all the good it’s done for the poor in those countries? You are not a doctor and your dad is creating a bio hazard.

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    • What information do you think is compelling? I would like to talk you out of that decision of thinking twice before vaccinating. Please don’t read this ladies webpage to get your healthcare advice. She is not informed about medicine in the slightest, though I’m sure she thinks she is. Non of her arguments above make any real sense. Talk to a doctor if you are really thinking twice about vaccines.

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      • DoYouEvenResearch? July 29, 2014 at 8:58 pm

        http://vran.org/in-the-news/measles-what-health-officials-arent-telling-you/
        I was born in 1970. I had the Mumps when I was a child. My dad did it on purpose by taking me over to a friend’s house whose child had it already. We both lived. Amazing.
        I knew kids at my elementary school that had the Measles. They came back to school a week later.
        At 30 years old, I contracted Chicken Pox from a boy who was 6 years old. Guess what? We’re both still alive and fully functional.
        Whooping Cough? In 1900 the WC fatality was 10.2 deaths per 100,000 people, but by 1935 it was 1.8 deaths per 100,000 people. ~80% reduction due to Vaccines? No. Public sanitation and health improvements. You want citations for those numbers? Read Public Health Reports April 23, 1943, Vol. 58 No. 17.

        If you don’t read this whole article below, which you probably won’t: At least scroll down to the “How do vaccinations work” section and read about the differences in how our autoimmune system reacts to naturally incurred diseases as opposed to vaccines deposited unnaturally directly in our bloodstreams.
        http://vran.org/about-vaccines/general-issues/doctors-speak/the-case-against-immunizatons/

        Do your own research on both sides of the coin, then offer articulate cited rebuttals or insights.
        That being said, I’m not sure if I received the Polio vaccine, but I’m okay with it if I did.
        Less than 1% of polio cases result in paralysis of the limbs (usually the legs). Of those cases resulting in paralysis, 5-10% of the patients die when the respiratory muscles are paralyzed. (From CDC Polio page)
        So out of 327,000,000, 3,270,000 would possible have paralysis at which 327,000 people would die.
        In the early 1990s, an average of 4 million people got chickenpox, 10,500 to 13,000 were hospitalized (range, 8,000 to 18,000), and 100 to 150 died each year.
        Approximately 122 000 people died from measles in 2012 – mostly children under the age of five. Severe measles is more likely among poorly nourished young children, especially those with insufficient vitamin A, or whose immune systems have been weakened by HIV/AIDS or other diseases. If your child eats healthy and you take your kid to the doctor when symptoms appear then you really shouldn’t worry too much about the Measles. Or Mumps. Or Chicken Pox. Or Whooping Cough.
        Poor nutrition causes nearly half (45%) of deaths in children under five – 3.1 million children each year. (wfp website hunger stats)
        All unintentional injury deaths
        Number of deaths: 120,859
        Deaths per 100,000 population: 39.1
        Cause of death rank: 5
        Unintentional fall deaths
        Number of deaths: 26,009
        Deaths per 100,000 population: 8.4
        Motor vehicle traffic deaths
        Number of deaths: 33,687
        Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.9
        Unintentional poisoning deaths
        Number of deaths: 33,041
        Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.7
        Just throwing some relativity out there.

        Who is really making the profit from vaccinations? Research that.
        Research who is paying Kroger or Walgreens or Dillons to give us free flu shots and why.

        Here is an excerpt from an interesting article:
        http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/01/24/new-evidence-refutes-fraud-findings-in-dr-wakefield-case.aspx

        ” … a team from the Wake Forest University School of Medicine in North Carolina are examining 275 children with regressive autism and bowel disease – and of the 82 tested so far, 70 prove positive for the measles virus … the team’s leader, Dr Stephen Walker, said: ‘Of the handful of results we have in so far, all are vaccine strain and none are wild measles.

        This research proves that in the gastrointestinal tract of a number of children who have been diagnosed with regressive autism, there is evidence of measles virus. What it means is that the study done earlier by Dr Wakefield and published in 1998 is correct.

        That study didn’t draw any conclusions about specifically what it means to find measles virus in the gut, but the implication is it may be coming from the MMR vaccine. If that’s the case, and this live virus is residing in the gastrointestinal tract of some children, and then they have GI inflammation and other problems, it may be related to the MMR.”

        The lead researcher, Stephen J. Walker, Ph.D., was also quick to state however, that this does not necessarily mean the MMR vaccine causes autism. Still, his research notes the same connection that Wakefield’s team did, which is that many autistic children have chronic bowel inflammation, and have the vaccine strain of the measles virus in their intestines.

        That was in January 2012.

        The whole purpose of this blog was to get parents to quit just being sheep and to think about what they are doing with their child’s health in terms of vaccinations. She gave her opinion and that isn’t needing to be judged. The whole regime of vaccinations has it’s pros and cons like anything else does. She is just trying to get people to research and judge for themselves.

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  28. Some of the above comments make me (feel sadly about our society). I am a mother of two teenagers and a 5 year old. I followed everything by the book ( the suggested book) with my teens all shots up to date down to the tee. They were both sick quit a bit. My 5 yr old did get his first round of vacs and then I was just like (no) and I made the decision with his dad that we were not going to get all of that stuff pumped into him. What really surprised me was the amount of shots that had increased from when our teens were younger. Here we are 5 years later. To date he has never been on an antibiotic. Same environment as the older two. Goes to daycare..church…grocery store….park…..yadda…yadda…yadda….. I stand behind the decision we made 100% because the proof is there. Now that teen girls are reaching a certain age they are shoving the HPV Vaccine down my throat, again I refused. This has been a year or so ago, and now they are having many doubts about this vaccine. It is up to each family to decide what is best for them – No Vaccines is the decision for this family.

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    • I understand as a parent you are concerned for your child and this whole natural movement with organic food, homemade this and that is very popular right now and I can see that it is influencing the way people think about healthcare. I love the organic, homemade part… awesome, keep it going! But when it comes to healthcare the fact is most people don’t have a good understanding of the human immune system, biochemistry, microbiology, ect. to make such a huge decision about their child’s health. The lady who runs this page has maybe a basic knowledge of immunity but that’s not enough to listen to her. You also can’t compare your children’s health, every immune system is so different and that’s the main reason you are seeing that one child so resilient towards illness. I encourage every parent to have a serious talk with a medical doctor or even a college professor about how vaccines work and why they are needed. That’s it, don’t read anything online (except this), go to a professional (not a ND or Chiro, sorry but in my opinion they are not professionals. I worked for a Chiro and she knew nothing about science. She thought the microwave changed the molecular make-up of food! It does not by the way).

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      • I actually did try to have a serious talk with a medical doctor about my concerns about vaccines recently when she was trying to push the HPV vaccine on me. I am actually unable to get vaccines for medical reasons however I still wanted to see just how much she knew. I told her I was concerned about a lot of the ingredients in this particular vaccine and came prepared to this appointment with printed out vaccine inserts. I started listing off the ingredients to her that concerned me most and as I was speaking, she told me to stop being ridiculous and if any of those ingredients were actually in the vaccine, she would surely know about them. I handed her the insert and told her to take a look for herself. She laughed out loud and told me that she’s a doctor and knows what she’s talking about.
        I can assure you I am not the only person who has tried to have a serious talk with a doctor about vaccines only to be pushed off like this. I do have a degree (maybe not in medical sciences) however I do know how to read.
        I will add to this by sharing that I at one time also said naturopaths weren’t professionals. I thought they were a bunch of quacks out to take our money…. that was until one of them saved my life! I ended up in the emergency room one night with what I thought was appendicitis. After numerous tests, and a CT scan, the doctor told me it’s not your appendix, you’re fine, go home. I was hunched over in so much pain I could barely walk. When my co-worker saw how much pain I was in at work the next day and after sharing my getting no where in the ER experience, she recommended I go to a naturopath and I was lucky enough to get in to see one the same day thanks to a last minute cancellation. With some quick tests, she determined that I had heavy metal poisoning which had caused my gull bladder to become extremely inflamed, almost to the point where it was going to explode. She started me on chleation therapy immediately and within a few days, no more pain. This was over 4 years ago and to this day, my gallbladder is normal and I have not experienced any more pain . Turns out the heavy medal poisoning was also causing all my food allergies. Guess who’s allergy free now? If medical doctors are the professionals, why didn’t they think to check my gallbladder? They checked my appendix and when they saw it wasn’t the problem, they sent me home.
        I will say that everything happens for a reason. This experience opened my eyes to the naturopathic world and how amazing it truly is. Turns out my body can’t digest heavy medals properly (which makes me unable to receive any further vaccines)… Guess I’m now a threat to the world of herd immunity…. Insert sarcasm here.

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        • Please explain to me how some naturopath explained to you that your Gall Bladder “was about to explode”. I can almost guarantee you that your Gall Bladder was sufficiently evaluated for anything “emergent” by both your CT scan and your blood tests. Pain is not evidence of an emergency, and there are many causes for abdominal pain that cannot be evaluated in the emergency room.

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        • I’m sure your doctor is just sick of people questioning vaccines, although she should not have reacted in that manner. Sorry to hear about that. But metal toxicity isn’t caused by less than 0.5 mg of aluminum, that’s the typical amount in a given vaccine (HPV vaccine 0.225 mg). Toxic metals, including “heavy metals,” are individual metals and metal compounds that negatively affect people’s health. Those heavy metals include, arsenic, mercury, selenium, beryllium, cadmium, lead, hexavalent chromate, and mercury. Aluminum is not even among the most dangerous metals. In very small amounts, many of these metals are necessary to support life. However, in large amounts, they become toxic. Even though you claim you can’t digest heavy metals properly, you have the ability to handle a small amount of heavy metals or you would be died. Therefore, you can handle the very small amount of aluminum from a vaccine. Plus, aluminum is the third most abundant element in the world, you inhale more aluminum in one day than from several vaccine shots. Also aluminum phosphate is unable to be digested in our bodies and that’s the form found in some vaccines and others have a phosphate buffer in solution. Finally, if the dietary chelating worked so well why would you be worried? Simply do it again after the vaccine.

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          • There is a big different between injecting vs ingesting aluminum and other heavy metals. By injecting mercury instead of ingesting it, you are essentially by-passing your inner filtration systems. All of the mercury in a vaccine enters the blood stream which can cause many negative side effects. When you ingest mercury, the amount that reaches your blood stream is much less than the actual amount you consumed. So yes, I could just do chleation again if I ever had to however why go through that? Why inject myself with these horrible ingredients (aluminum, formaldehyde, benzethonium chloride
            , DNA from aborted infants, and human serum albumin) just to name a few when I can simply say No to vaccines. I’ve already had measles,a nd whooping cough when I was younger (despite being vaccinated) as well as the chicken pox. I survived and I’m still here.
            If vaccines are right for your family, I hold no judgement. Vaccines are however not a fit for me and my family so I will continue to refuse them. Besides, if my kid suffered a vaccine injury and I had to quit my job to take care of him for the rest of my life, who would I hold financially responsible? You can’t sue the vaccine manufacturer so who’s left? Hope you get a case with VAERS?

          • This is for the comment below, for some reason I can’t reply to Margot’s comment. Yes, your right there is a difference in the defenses between ingesting, inhalation, and injecting. But your still only injecting a very small amount into your blood stream and your blood has good defenses as well. Mercury is only in the flu vaccines by the way, not in any other vaccines. As far as mercury causing “negative side effects”, which you can’t even name one, that’s methyl mercury and the flu vaccine uses ethyl mercury which does not accumulate in the brain. You can look up numerous peer-reviewed scientific studies about this on pubmed. Yes, there is DNA from embryonic cells (not infant, which implies a fully developed human) and other molecules. But in the end that’s all they are, molecules, not infants or animals. Formaldehyde is also produced naturally in the human body as a part of normal functions of the body to produce energy and build the basic materials needed for important life processes. This includes making amino acids, which are the building blocks of proteins that the body needs. You obviously don’t have even a basic knowledge of chemistry, biochemistry, and basically science, so maybe you shouldn’t be making any decisions about your child’s health.

          • For the record, I did take chemistry classes in University however you do not need to have a science degree to understand the wealth of information that is now readily available. I’m not refering to google but instead to medical journals and doctors from around the world. People who once used to work for the pharmeceutical companies are coming out and telling the truth. You don’t need to have a science degree to understand that when we were kids, we got 6 vaccines and now there are 49. You don’t need a science degree to understand that there are many children suffering aliments that used to not be (and yes, I know that not all are vaccine related but some are). You don’t need a science degree to see first hand a child who was perfectly healthy and normal, developing ahead of schedule, only to stop walking, talking, and meeting milestones after a particular dose of a vaccine. You don’t need a science degree to see the many side effects that are possible from a vaccine. Ever read a vaccine insert? This will be my last reply, I’m not going to sit here and argue with someone who is obviously pro-vax.. Like I said, do what is right for your family and I’ll do what’s right for mine. I hope my kids catch these mild diseases like the measles and chicken pox to gain life time immunity to it. We need to quit living in fear that we are all going to die from these so called “deadly” diseases.

  29. Healthy Home Economist = Bored Housewife with Relatives in Healthcare. Definitely a great source of information. I get all my facts from her.

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  30. If anyone reads this as anything other than an OPINION ARTICLE, please kill yourself…..or inject yourself with one of those vaccines with the ‘poison’ in it.

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  31. The only video you need to watch about vaccinations (and it’s only 1 minute and 30 seconds long!):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhk7-5eBCrs

    Perfect for if you don’t trust “Big Pharma” or “White Coats” to tell you what you need to know, due to their grand plot to kill everyone over the course of hundreds of years just so they can take everyone’s money, which makes ABSOLUTE sense.

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  33. Good job. Way to lead the charge for diseases, I’m certain that if there was a god of Smallpox, TB and Polio, you’d be its sycophantic, simpering high priest.

    I’ll take your 6 reasons and return with a single, overriding one:

    BECAUSE I DON’T WANT MY CHILD TO DIE FROM A PREVENTABLE DISEASE.

    But clearly, you do. Words cannot express the contempt I have for you, and the legion of lackeys who can’t be bothered to research the facts for themselves. See:
    http://www.mamamia.com.au/vaccinations/anti-vaccination-advocate-takedown/ for the reasons why you are wrong, wrong, wrong.

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      • Herd immunity is most definitely not a myth; Dr. Blaylock is just about the only MD/PhD out there who believes this. And yes, your unvaccinated child is a health risk to vaccinated children. Vaccinations give us a good protection but not the best protection, getting a disease will insure the best protection against future exposure, that is if you survive. If your child has the measles and comes into contact with children who are vaccinated, the high concentration of the virus can overload the vaccinated child’s immune system and they may possibly acquire measles. In an era where most people in developed countries have not experienced the horrors of an outbreak of smallpox, polio, whooping cough, or diphtheria; have not watched a child die of bacterial meningitis; or have not witnessed the anguish of a mother who gives birth to a malformed child because she contracted rubella during pregnancy, it is EASY to take the benefits of vaccines for granted and to focus instead on the very rare side effects that are the inevitable cost of such benefits. One last note,pharm companies don’t make that much money off vaccines, especially now because of all the lawsuits from alleged vaccine “side effects”. They make way more money selling blood pressure meds and cholesterol meds. So they really have no reason to push vaccines so much, except to save your life.

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      • Sarah, to put this as simply as I can, you are absolutely wrong about vaccines.

        You don’t cite a single peer reviewed medical literature. Shame on you.

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      • To be perfectly honest, you may want to do some independent research into various people and cases where children have or have not been vaccinated and ask the opinions of several of those mothers. I understand that you come from a “family of medical people” (quotation marks, not inverted commas) and hence since you come from one, single, family you are more likely to be subjected to the same, negative views. A bit of social logic there I suppose.
        In addition to that, try studying the history of medicine as well. You may learn some nice new things about vaccines and inoculation that you never knew before.
        Personally, I think that I’d be able to write a pretty convincing article myself why one should get children vaccinated. Quite easily, for that matter, since I wouldn’t even have to use citations in the same way as you did. Lesson in persuasion – using statistics and data with credibility massively boosts people’s chances of siding with you.

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    • Dear Angry Father1

      Your child is not going to die of preventable diseases. Many of us did not die, but your child do have high chance of contracting so called “conditions” such as a bunch of autoimmune diseases, asthma, allergies, neuromotorical symptoms , childhood diabetes…. and many more. Medications your child will be ‘on” somewhat not so slowly, but steadily will undermine his not good health.. leading to a relatively short and quite miserable life under constant “medical care” Instead of a bucket load of toxins in the form of vaccines and medications children should spend lots of time outdoors with physical activities, should eat real food instead of fast food crap and “friends”, and yes they should go through childhood diseases preferably before age 10… and then be med free for the rest of their long and healthy lives!

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      • I think it’s sad that you say, ” Many of us did not die from preventable diseases”.

        20th century annual morbidity: Smallpox- 48,164, Diphtheria- 175,885, Pertussis- 147,271, Tetanus- 1,314, Measles- 503,282, Mumps-152,209, Rubella- 47,745, Hib- 20,000
        I think you forgot a few people who didn’t survive.

        After vaccines made for each disease above. 1998 Morbidity: Smallpox- 0, Diphtheria- 1, Pertussis- 6,279, Tetanus- 34, Measles- 89, Mumps- 606, Rubella- 345, Hib- 54

        Reference: Bacterial Pathogenesis: a molecular approach by Brenda A. Wilson [ et al.]

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  34. It is my understanding that you are not a medical professional, have not attending medical school and do not practice any sort of scientific medical care. The instances you have sited above are wither 1. without verifiable resources to consult 2. Based on unscientific studies conducted by people who wish to have their “research” back up their already held viewpoints. Your child may be just fine without vaccines but the decision you make to keep your child from being vaccinated has far reaching consequences that effect more than just your child. If you take your child into a pediatricians office to be treated for the Whooping Cough she contracted because you didn’t vaccinate, you put the health of every other child in that environment at risk. There are children who cannot be vaccinated because of age or other health issues whose lives you are risking because you chose to believe anecdotal studies when all scientific information contradicts your views. Further, to the person who said that children who lived 100 years ago did just fine without vaccines obviously doesn’t know that the child mortality rate in 1900 was 169 deaths to every 1000 living children. That rate is now 7 per 1000. Please learn how to read statistics before you start spouting ignorant information based on nothing more than a bias. Science has no agenda. Stop reading information which only supports your point of view.

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  35. Stop peddling this anti-vax bullshit already. We’ve all had enough. We will bully all of you until this nonsense is eliminated, one way or another.

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    • I hope those of you who occasionally invest too much time replying to the bullies have taken note of this comment. That’s what it is–not an attempt to boost the health of Americans, certainly not your children. Only to exert their will.

      Many people are committed NOT to health but to vaccines. The vaccine industry, the concept of vaccines keeping them well, something. And I believe there are paid trolls as well.

      Ignore them. Let the truth continue to go forth!

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  36. Dear Sarah,
    Thank you for being so concerned for peoples’ well-beings. I think you’re trying to do what’s right, however, your understanding of how vaccines work and how they are made is dramatically different from what I’ve seen. Compared the the practices I’ve observed, this article is very misleading and I am concerned that people will get hurt because of it. Would you be interested in talking over email? We could compare notes and try to sort out how our views of vaccines are so different. Medicine should not be filled with shadows and dark mysteries. Maybe we can help each other shine light on the issues here. You have my email…

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  37. Unless you thin that basically the entire 19th and 20th centuries were fabricated by evil governments, then you will be able to observe that vaccinations have universally and massively reduced child mortality rates everywhere they have been used.

    If this blog has convinced you that vaccinations are the worse of two evils, then Darwin was right and you have just been naturally selected.

    Vaccines carry a risk – a pretty small risk – but a risk nonetheless. If you think rolling the dice on things that wildly increased child mortality rates in the developed world less than a hundred years ago, some of which still affect the developing world, is better than the risk posed by childhood vaccinations, I can’t imagine that your risk perception is rational or evidence-based.

    By that logic, you shouldn’t take any medication ever. People can have adverse reactions to advil, right? So why not simply abandon pharmaceuticals entirely and settle in for a life expectancy of about 35? Or do you prefer to live to 80? Because that’s pretty new and it coincides fairly precisely with the development of pharmaceuticals.

    The sad thing is that your unvaccinated children will propagate illnesses that the rest of us don’t want to have. I’m not sure why you get the right to make others sick with your anti-corporate, anti-science, anti-political, anti-intellectual faith (faith is by definition belief in the absence of proof). Surely you could all move to an island so your children can be poorly together and not infect the rest of us.

    I’m not in it for big business or whatever elaborate conspiracy you’ve dreamed up – I just don’t want kids to die of preventable diseases. Yours, mine, anyone’s. But especially not mine.

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  38. The complete lack of evidence based claims in this article is very scary to me. There’s nothing wrong with questioning what the experts say and making educated decisions for yourself and your family. However choosing anecdotal evidence and fear based media coverage over years of proven safety and efficacy of vaccines as public health tools is shameful.

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  39. Hi, not sure if this was covered in the comments–wasn’t able to read through due to the sheer number of them–but wanted to mention that the minimum vaccination age in Japan is no longer 2 years.
    My daughter was born in Japan, and we spent her first year there, and I recollect having to explain to the doctors and nurses at numerous wellness visits that I was, in fact, opting out of vaxing at the time. I cannot remember clearly at what age they start, but I think it was around 6 months. May have been earlier…
    Cheers.

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  40. Please please PLEASE vaccinate your children. The points above are not based on any well reasoned science at all, particularly number 3 – “the healthiest kids I know”.

    The diseases that vaccines protect against are SO dangerous, and if you don’t vaccinate your child then you’re not only endangering their life, but those of everybody around them. You’re increasing the likelihood that your child will get a preventable disease, but also that they spread it to others around them.

    Diseases like Measles have the potential for really serious complications such as meningitis, brain infections (encephalitis), eye problems and occasionally even blindness. If we can eradicate it, why on earth would we choose not to?!

    Despite what some people on here are claiming, a LOT of research goes into each vaccination. As well as Phase I, II and III trials before drugs are approved for the market, post-marketing studies are also carried out to pick up anything unexpected. Reporting of complications is an obligation for doctors, and if there are any doubts, strenuous checks will be carried out to guarantee their safety.

    Vaccines aren’t just recommended by one government or drug company. The World Health Organisation, the FDA, the MHRA, NICE, SIGN…. these are just a few of the institutions that endorse this as the safest way to practise medicine.

    Does anybody out there remember Polio? It was an awful disease. Look up iron lungs if you don’t believe me. People were severely crippled and often couldn’t breathe without assistance. Polio is virtually eradicated now, thanks to the development of a vaccination. It wasn’t so long ago that this was a real problem, but vaccination has helped this disease become pretty much a thing of the past.

    A lot of medics would argue that vaccinations are one of the biggest medical breakthroughs in the past 100 years. The ability to prevent diseases such as diptheria, mumps, rubella, cervical cancer, hepatitis, meningitis C…. that’s amazing.

    I can’t make you decide one way or the other, but all I can do is plead with you to read some real science before deciding. Don’t take my word for it, read a medical journal such as Nature. This is such an important decision, so much so that it’s made me write an “essay comment” – my first ever. I can’t bear the thought that one of your children might one day suffer from an entirely preventable disease!

    I’ll stop preaching now!

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    • You can find studies to say either way depending on what you want to do, for just about anything.

      The question is, does any health organization that is not demonstrably corrupt (i.e., not the FDA or CDC) recommend vaccines? What studies are there not PAID for by the drug companies that are in favor of vaccines?

      Until a drug is proven, sane people lean in the direction of NO.

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  41. And the Darwin award goes to…..you idiots. I hope the shit vaccines help protect against make a comeback to teach all of you a lesson. If you people are that damn worried about Big Pharm being irresponsible, then perhaps funding should be in place for better vaccination practices instead of using caveman era health practices. Do you also bleed your children to balance their humors?

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  42. I am so confused. I really don’t know what to do. I recently moved in the States and I have a 2 year old daughter. I lived in Italy and certain vaccinations are mandatory and others not. My question is: are all vaccinations mandatory here in the States? I would like to send my daughter to daycare a couple of days in a week in order for her to learn the language, but before I do that, she has to get her shots (that’s what my pediatrician said). Can someone please help me?
    thank you.
    Giovanna

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  43. Not so long ago I heard on the news that in countries where polio vaccination wasn’t mandatory any more quite a few cases of polio were reported. They were so sure this disease was completely defeated. Polio makes the child disabled for life so, although I agree that it is good to be careful with vaccines, just as with everything, and informed about possible adverse effects, it is unreasonable to cancel or avoid them all. It should depend on a child as well – if the child’s health is weaker from the start, perhaps it is better to wait with vaccinations. My daughter is vaccinated though, as a baby, and I didn’t notice any bad consequences. .

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  44. I’ve looked at a lot of information about vaccinations, and everything seems highly speculative and based on no empirical evidence. I think the info in point #3 is a very weak argument against vaccination.

    “One thing that completely confounds me is that there are no studies comparing the health of unvaccinated children to the health of vaccinated children.”

    So if there haven’t been any studies about this, how can you say vaccination is bad? Based on the anecdotal evidence from friends and family?

    I looked at the article used in your update. One of the author of that article’s primary source was a survey, which hardly constitutes a legitimate study. To call it science is laughable. To date, only a little over 15,000 responses to this survey have been collected, and not all of those were from the US. According to the 2010 Census, the US population under age 18 was 74.1 million, of which 20.2 million were under 5 years of age. The sample size for that is minute.

    Another one of his sources mentions that research for the connection between vaccination and diseases/disorders is “still being conducted.” In other words, there’s no real scientific evidence. Rather, most of the objections are based on speculation, hearsay, and paranoia.

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  45. My daycare requires vaccinations and my state only has two legal exemptions – medical and religious. I am a christian but my faith does not teach to avoid vaccinations like judaism which teaches to avoid vaccinations because they are created in animals that are seen as “unclean”. My daughter has had her 2 and 4 month shots but I really do not want to continue. Any suggestions on how to avoid vaccination and still meet my daycares requirements?

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    • 100 years ago or more than 100 years ago there were very few given! Now, ways too much….sense of proportion and common sense lost! And we have no idea how long a fully vaccinated child or young individual will live, what debilitating “conditions” will suffer from…..and we don’t have to be doctors to see how many children are having cancer,asthma, allergies, autoimmune diseases, diabetes etc, which are much more severe than the childhood diseases they are vaccinating against in incredible amounts! And no matter what “science” says, children and young adults , and older folks did not have cancer as much as now, there were no allergies, asthma , autoimmune diseases… Who says the opposite is either ignorant or lying. The proverb is right “The known bad is often better, than the unknown”good”….The Eurasian race had several thousand years to learn to tackle with common accute diseases, not even mentioning how easy to treat them now… and the individual shall be immune for a whole life… who wants to trade it for unknown conditions to occur later in life with very high probability .. they are free to do that trade.. but those who stick to the “known bad” should have their freedom, too!

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  50. Hi, i have been trying to decide if i should vaccinate my children when I do decide to have them. Some websites say you should and others say you shouldnt. I just dont know what to do. So if you can be totally honest and let me know your thoughts. Also what are the risks if you dont vaccinate?

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    • If you care about your kids and others,VACCINATE!! If not, don’t bother with antibiotics, either, since you don’t believe in medicine. Sorry if I sound angry, but that’s because I AM!! My nephew has whooping cough, which was almost eradicated but is now making a comeback thanks to morons who don’t vaccinate. We are losing our blanket immunity and in my opinion, this is a public health issue and shouldn’t be optional.

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    • Every legitimate medical source around advises vaccinations for children! They are so important. The risks if you don’t vaccinate are that your child could contract a serious illness. Measles, mumps, meningitis C, diptheria, tetnaus, polio, rubella… the complications of all of these are so much more serious than any mild side effects you may temporarily experience from having a vaccine.

      You don’t have to believe me, but look at some of the big healthcare entities in the world – the World Health Organisation, the FDA, key journals like Nature or the BMJ.

      I am being totally honest when I say that I would 100% vaccinate your children. The arguments against just don’t have enough scientific backing. Even the article that started the original MMR scare has since been retracted by the author.

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      • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist
        Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist January 29, 2014 at 5:41 pm

        You don’t make decisions for my children or anyone else’s. You have no right to force the injection of toxins into anyone’s body except your own. What you are suggesting is the violation of a person’s biological rights. Absolutely frightening the lengths people will go to forcing their will and their view of the world on others.

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        • Sorry Sarah, I think you must have misinterpreted what I meant. Of course I wouldn’t pin anybody down and vaccinate them against their wishes, that’s unethical. The person who wrote this comment was asking for honest opinions about vaccination, and all that I meant was that I’m 100% behind the opinion that vaccination is a good thing – If I was in their situation I definitely would.

          Sorry if that was misinterpreted as me planning to violate human and biological rights!

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  51. I have been vaccinated and im pretty sure I am healthy and never get sick. I do think the vaccinations were a little bit better in the 90s then it is now. Well it seems that way in my eyes. But I don’t get the flu vaccine! nope! my body can’t handle it.

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  53. I hope your relatives/children will develop the illness that can be prevented by vaccines and suffer the consequences..and I really like to read you blogging about the suffering..

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    • Dear Diane!
      Thank you for all your good wishes! really heart felt! As someone who contracted all the vaccine preventable diseases, I am happy. Chicken pox, measles,rubeola, mumps..all between age 3-6, with no side effects. My whole generation did go through the same….. once we entered school, at age 6-7 , we were healthy no degenerative “conditions”, no allergies /we didn’t even know they existed/, no child hood cancer, diabetes, ADHD and stuff like that. Maybe those good old childhood diseases do have a role..and we should not consider them as enemies , usually there is always something good in the bad and vice versa! Human intervention into the course of nature for the first sight might bring partial temporary results.. but medium term, long term they will be more harm than benefit, and a source of human suffering.
      So, if I could go back in time… would opt for all of the “preventable” diseases versus all degenerative conditions now crippling generations for the rest of their lives. Mankind’s liaison with science for the last 40-50 years is becoming more of a “dance macabre” more destruction than construction. Medicine in particular could not come up with real cure for illnesses, therefore attention is targeted toward the healthy population.. but health as my mother language says is “egészség” meaning completeness, wholeness, having everythingthat can not be enhanced ….

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      • It seems interesting to me that you link cancer, diabetes, ADHD, “degenerative diseases”, and allergies all to vaccines. Where is the proof of this? Seeing as how we don’t know what causes cancer yet, it seems to me that you should be informing the CDC so that they can get right on stopping vaccine production and start destroying cancer. The question I’d actually like to ask, is isn’t possible that these “degenerative diseases”, (assuming you mean Autism Spectrum Disorders and others like that?), are more commonly found now because there are more people on the planet and modern medicine is an ever advancing science? Maybe we see Autism more commonly in kids these days because it has gone from a rigid one lane disease to an entire spectrum of disorders ranging from severe to mild.

        This whole page seems strange to me. With a child of my own on the way, whether or not I trust the big Pharmaceutical companies is irrelevant to me. Would I rather have a child develop Autism from a Polio vaccination, or contract Polio and end up paralyzed for life, or worse die from the disease.

        For more fear sites, please visit:
        http://www.jennymccarthybodycount.com/Anti-Vaccine_Body_Count/Home.html
        http://www.cdc.gov/VACCINES/vac-gen/whatifstop.htm

        Or better yet, we could all stop talking out of our asses and think about our children. Take out the fear, take out the anxiety, and think with a clear head. Telling someone you hope their relatives catch these horrible preventable disease is not a correct, smart, or down right okay response. But claiming that because you and your friend group happened to survive without any negative repercussions from these diseases is evidence enough to stop vaccinating altogether is just as ludicrous. We divide on an issue that would be better solved together, and thus Albert Einstein remains correct.

        “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” – Albert Einstein.

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        • The proof is direct personal experience, and other experience , I can verify the source and . truthfulness of, as well as essence of direct experiences of sociocultural communities,’”Kis mértékben gyógyszer, nagy mértékben méreg” alias “small quantity healing, big quantity killing” or “Jóból is megárt a sok” “too much of any good shall be harmful” Today’s trend of medical intervention is outrageously over any level headed limits, including vaccines, medicating everything, doing surgeries etc……Mankind’s ideologies constantly revolve in an endless hamster wheel of THESIS-ANTITHESIS and finally a SYNTHESIS.. applied for medicine: thesis: no enough cure, medicines. antithesis: too much medicines, natural progress is over medicalized…. this is where western medicine is at right now. We have fallen on the other side of the horse, slowly but steadily creating more problems that we had before. Next phase is the SYNTHESIS, and efforts to correct balance has started now, but of course who are interested in present status quo are doing everything in the name of “science” to ridicule those who dare to question. HUMAN INTERVENTION into the course of nature regardless it’s a biosphere a habitat, or human body, for a certain period in a limited amount can be beneficial for humans, but if it goes on too long applied too much, the result has been and shall be failure or disaster. And this is a much higher rule than research paper writing. Einstein, Oppenheimer, Edward Teller, John Neumann etc all realized that though they ventured as deep down in the”materia” as no one before,they could not find the answer.. they were looking for. They were everything but religious, but all concluded that there are higher universal rules “higher intelligence” as Einstein said what “runs the show” and science is a dwarf doomed to fail and fail over and over again! Einstein definitely did not consider universal, cosmological “higher” predicaments to be stupid and ignorant.. rather ignoring them!!!!

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    • That is a blog! Please please PLEASE read some scientific journals on the subject of vaccination and base your decisions on impartial, peer-reviewed, randomised-control-trial evidence!

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    • The person who conducted this internet research (not real research) is a naturopathic “doctor”. She said vaccines can’t eradicate diseases, so…. where did the variola virus that caused smallpox go….. hmmm weird. Don’t tell me it was mother nature. If you really want to educate yourself go find an article that has been peer-reviewed by other scientist and entered in a scientific journal, anything else is nonsense.

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  54. I am a concerned parent considering giving my child tetanus vaccine. There is so much literature out there, and I really appreciate your blog post, but are there more sites that you could direct me to? I want to hear a medical professional tell me the up-sides and down-sides.

    Thanks!

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  56. It is not productive to be lost in statistics….Churchill sad.. ” I only believe in statistics, what I falsified myself”.. it tells everything. The best approach in life is the “sound minded peasant” approach what is based on hundred and thousand years of DIRECT observation and experience, not governed by any institutional interest!
    And this wisdom teaches us, that too much interference in the course of nature, natural progress, is ALWAYS HARMFUL, even if it APPEARS to be good in fact it isn’t. Modern medicine is interfering way too much, science became a new religion what we the “subjects: are supposed to believe in blindly, if not we are heretics…. When we have to take the risk of having a potential illness taking it’s good old natural course /what mankind knows for thousands of years/ or to take the chance of contracting largely unknown degenerative diseases as a side effect of too much intervention in order to “prevent” everything…I rather take the good old method….” THE KNOWN BAD IS ALWAYS BETTER THAN THE UNKNOWN GOOD”

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  58. Unfortunately, there are so many studies out there that are biased. There are many interesting points made on both sides of this argument. In a scientific study to find out true cause and effect relationships, it is my understanding that the groups being compared must be the same with the exception of the variable being studied. I am guessing the parents (as a whole) who are choosing to not vaccinate their children are very careful with their children’s diets and lifestyles. I am speculating here based off the many, many comments about the organic diets and healthy lifestyles these parents cite. Are the studies comparing overall health of vax/nonvax children comparing children who are eating the same healthy diets? Just curious. If it is only looking at the general population, I would think there would be too many other factors to make a causal determination. I would truly be interested in the results of a study that did compare children who other than vaccinations live similar lifestyles. Of course, I know that all factors would not be the same because genetics play a role in our health too.

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    • “Scientific” is an alias of propaganda now days. Those so called scientific studies are written as how the corporation paying for them wants them to be written. Winston Churchill’s words are very much true about statistics and researches: “I only believe in statistics, I falsified myself”. Let’s rely on common sense, direct verifiable evidence, what we see and experience.. and what our forefathers have directly experienced. Unfortunately , we still believe that science is serving the benefit of humans.. look around.. !

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  60. My friend was given a hard time by her doctor for not getting the meningitis vaccine for her young daughter. A very short time later he daughter came down with meningitis. Very serious. The doctor ended up apologizing to her, He said if she would have gotten the vaccine her immune system probably wouldn’t have been able to fight off the actual disease (because it was dealing with the vaccine), and the little girl probably would have died.
    There are risks both ways. The best thing to do is educate ourselves. Make a decision, and support each other even if we don’t agree with each others end decisions.

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  61. I’m slightly offended that you say that nonvaxed kids are healthier overall. All of the children in my family were vaccinated, cousins, aunts, uncles, etc. And we are all healthy and had proper nourishment as children. My sisters and I played soccer and softball in school and rarely missed school. I missed more because I had ear infections due to mt eustation tubes not forming properly. I feel vaccines are a double edge sword. Yes they helped eradicate some dangerous diseases from the world, but they come in yucky goop. I don’t think there is as strong a correlation between autism and vaccines. I think our use of vaccines coensided with the medical worlds ability to recognize autism as more than someone who is retarded, schitzofrenic, or insane, or has a cold, unloving mother. I think that was all coincidence. Maybe the best cure to any disease is to just become a vampire.

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    • No.. you can not die of chicken pox…, or measles or rubela, or mumps.. I had all.. all my generation had them all…. no one died…, what happens with this carriage load of vaccines they are pushing now, is that kids might not have the disease they are vaccinating for/ some of them still does… but THEY CONTRACT ALL OTHER CONDITIONS! Meaning, constant upper respiratory infections, constant cold symptoms, and this is best case scenario.. what about asthma…. childhood diabetes, all sort of allergies to literally anything and everything. we did not even know these words…..usually they won’t tell you that there are children who die of asthma attacks, child hood diabetes won’t contribute to a long healthy life, simply said they DIE YOUNG after a miserable life! And I am not even mentioning tons of autoimmune diseases/ when and where the immune system , which is “bored” as not having it’s regular job is TURNING AGAINST ITSELF, creating nasty conditions….. and don’ even mention child hood and young age cancer…. heck no! THANK YOU NO! Rather chicken pox, rubela…..all my relatives in “poor” Eastern European villages lived well into their 80′s and 90;s, o only seeing a doctor when riding his horse or later his bicycle of course they were not vaccinated! Other than that, usually no one thinks about… but in “poor” Eastern european villages /95 % of population lived there/ there were no contagious epidemics, plague etc……. WHY????? Because of the settlement structure , fresh air, and not many people under same roof, or behind city walls……… epidemics ALWAYS spread when lots of people are squeezed together with poor sanitation or in closed environment/ classrooms etc/ WELCOME TO THIS MODERN WORLD, the best of all!!!! Medicine now creates more problems, than it resolves…….. just like politics…no surprise, because they are heavily related!

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        • Death wipes out a persons life, and this would happen more often to the aged and malnourished who acquire these diseases.

          But vaccine injuries give healthy kids, from childhood, an entire lifetime of living with incurable conditions like Gullian-Barr syndrome, Autism, various forms of brain damage, neurological, and the list goes on.
          Do the math – weigh the risk yourself, a disease that has short term problems that the individual can shorten and lessen by his own efforts, or a lifetime injury with which one has no choice but to accept lifelong impairments to ones life, dreams, health.
          And who is doing the lying, when those who receive legal judgements against vaccine manufacturers are required to sign statements that they will not publicize the cause of their children’s maladies. This misrepresents the truth about vaccines to the public. That’s a lie in anyone’s vocabulary.

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      • the thing is, if you get a “non deadly” disease it can lower your immune system and make you more likely to get a deadly disease

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  62. The question to why studies aren’t being done to compare vaccinated children to non-vaccinated children could be as simple as: it’s like comparing apples and oranges. Unless you sort out family traits, chromosomes, specific blood issues, it would be impossible to compare the two! How can a comparison be made when there are so many things to take into consideration? To just state because the one would blow the other one away is crap.

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  63. The reality is all of the diseases come from the vaccinations themselves, trust me I went through that personally and I will never i repeat never let my children get any kind of shot because your body was created to get rid of any diseases or anything harmful to the body.
    This article is factual not bias and the ones saying that they’re bias are in fact the ones being bias.

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    • do you know what bias means?
      the fact that Sarah is only supporting anti-vax views is biased, the fact that people complain about this isn’t.

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  64. I am 70 years old and had only a few vaccines in my life back in the ’50s. I have 4 non vaccinated kids who have always been healthy. I have grandkids who are non vaccinated and now even grt-grandkids who are not. I have a healthy family. Doctors are still trying to get me to take the flu shot and several other shots but I say NO every time. It scares the hell out of me when I see all the shots they are pumping into kids today.

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  65. You state that you need to research, yet your 2nd contention is all hype and baseless fear. You are stating how there are all these “chemicals” and poisons that you don’t know about and stuff that sounds scary. Yet to you, who probably has never worked as a pharmacist, doctor, or any major related to chemistry to judge the mixtures they put into vaccines is simply baseless. Your actions don’t only impact yourself, you are harming those who cannot get vaccines due to medical conditions, these people rely on herd immunization, that everybody else is vaccinated so they don’t get sick so you are indirectly harming these people and I’m asking you to stop. Your 4th argument is about how nobody “you” know gets sick etc. etc… however, the average human establishes 100 intimate connections with individuals giving you an extremely small sample size. Also please realize how unscientifically sound “your” experience is, before you start spreading unfounded fears about vaccines, please take your own advice and do more research.

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  66. The thing is, there’s a reason why nature deals out diseases and illnesses: natural selection. To me, the scariest thing we humans do is resist natural selection. Sad as it may be, Mother Nature kills children for a purpose – keep the healthiest alive. Make no mistake, she will find a way to remove the sickest kids – if it’s not Polio or Chicken Pox (!) then it will be Bird Flu (uh, remember that?) or some unknown sickness for which there will be NO vaccine. We vaccinate, as has been shown by many comments here, out of FEAR; fear of the unknown, or fear of the known (death), whichever. I wouldn’t tell anyone whether they need to vaccinate or not, but I would advise that when She wants you, and she will, Mother Nature will take vast numbers and she will start with the low-hanging fruit, children. She will know how to take our kids, but we will not know her method until afterwards. My take on vaccinations is this: take a deep breath, hope for the best, prepare for the worst (in your own way) and then go have some ice cream with the little ones. Anything else is guesswork against a far more experienced opponent.

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    • Agree….. a friend of mine, who is a big name obstetrician and gynecologist,already in his 60′s /somewhere in eastern Europe/ where people are much more honest and straightforward, always have been saying that children who are “prepared: well are going to do well… we don’t have to do anything with them.. those “who are prepared with sorrow” will be ill and ill again, even if the wind blows from the wrong direction”..

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  67. Outstandingly illuminating many thanks, It is my opinion your current subscribers might just want a superior deal more blog posts similar to this keep up the excellent material.

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  68. Hi Sarah,

    Most schools & daycares require vaccinations. Is there a way around this if I choose not to vaccinate my child? How did you deal with this?

    Thanks,
    Sinthy

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    • My 2 year old received vaccines up to now but after research, I want to opt out of any future vaccines. My doctor was PUSHING vaccines that were already done, over again, and for new ones early, I said no way and was forced to sign a paper to opt out. This document was just to get a OK health document for my son to receive surgery with a tooth pull. When signing the ‘refusal to vaccinate’ form you are agreeing that you are ‘endangering the health or life of my child and others’.
      http://www2.aap.org/immunization/pediatricians/pdf/refusaltovaccinate.pdf

      I did not have my glasses with me when I signed the form and was furious with myself later. Considering going back to the doctor having that document destoryed for something better written:
      http://www.docstoc.com/docs/7397844/Vaccine-Refusal-Form-Non-Self-Incriminating

      The other day I received a document from his nursery school asking to complete a medical report including list of vaccines report, and I know the doctor will probably write something about my recent ‘opt-out’ for vaccines. I am worried about the reaction of the nursery school, don’t want to make waves, but seriously think vaccines are risky.

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  69. Hi I was wondering what should I do if I’ve already vaccinated my child? He’s not done with all the shots but they’ve given him plenty! I feel like a horrible mother for not even thinking about doing research on this!

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  70. “Update since this post was written: Vaccinated children are found to be more chronically ill than unvaccinated children with rates for autism, ear infections, ADHD, asthma and allergies as much as 30% higher than unvaxed children.”

    Are you serious? That is some of the most biased, useless research I have ever seen. I don’t trust pharmaceutical companies but at least their research is better than that.

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    • We don’t have to believe any statistics, findings, reports, papers etc… we only have to trust our own practical,empirical observations and direct experience, and in higher knowledge than every day news.. In general, information being poured on us from any sort of main stream media outlet, and from major institutions of society, including political, cultural, economical, judicial etc establishment, including medical, health care field, is heavily influenced and dominated by diverse interest groups ! We have no chance to control the cards they are playing with! Therefore we have to return to good old ways believing what we observe, in our own life and community we have some sort of personal control of…..Science what we trusted in the last 150 years-has already lost the drive to try to serve humanity, and at it;’s present form it is predominantly serving only a few human’s interest, Institutions are lying, politicians, bankers etc..why should we blindly believe in the medical establishment?
      When I was growing up, in a European country , we had very few vax back then, our parents, grandparents hardly had any….they were and they are well living into their 80′s 90′s. While now vaccinated children are having a bunch of chronic diseases… and we still don’t see the end of the tunnel. Namely how long they are going to live, not even mentioning the fact that conditions from an early age corrected by medications will lead to further medications, what is everything but not health. This medical adventure, what was good and positive a while ago, to prevent illnesses is turning into it’s own opposite.. now an individual , who is healthy would benefit more not even going to doctors.Life of humanity revolves around thesis-anti thesis.Time is ripe again for a major shift in mentality!

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  72. i take extreme issue with you point #3 here. SHAME ON YOU for continuing to add fuel to the “vaccinations cause autism” fire. how many times does it have to be said that that “dr.” who published those “findings” has had his medical license REVOKED and the paper DISPROVEN because the “findings” were falsified and not accurate? i take a lot of issue with this whole article, but today i’m just going to point this out. again, SHAME on you, people out there are still blind enough to read this and fall back into this cycle regarding vaccinations and autism that shouldn’t even exist.

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  73. Hallo. I have 2 children.6 and 2. I did vaccination on both of them. As my son got his 9 month vaccination he was very sick after 2 weeks. He got ITP from the vaccination and almost died. Since then I stopped vaccination my children.

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  74. I have heard and seen this so many times about how getting your kids shot’s can hurt them. I just got my son’s 2 month shot’s but am nervous to get him anymore. 5 all at once is so much plus all the crap that is in them. Anyhow if i choose to not get him anymore is it bad because he already had his 2 month shot’s?

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  75. Geez! I WOULD LOVE some advice on this vaccination topic … I am heading to Central America for 3 months come September, (I am 23 years old & following the Weston A Price diet pretty much completely, I use the 80/20 rule though :) ) and I have been told I need about 6 or 7 vaccinations plus malaria meds. Something inside me is giving me a bad feeling about getting all of these vaccinations to go traveling (plus they are about 60-70$ a pop!!!) but they are MANDATORY and I don’t have any doctor I truly trust who can give me a different opinion. Since I will most likely not be able to travel without these vaccines, do you recommend I take any precautions to protect myself from any harmful side effects of such a huge chemical dose at once? My last vaccine was H1N1, I was furious after receiving it as I had a very very unpleasant experience & pain for about a year after at the injection site (super weird & scary). Anyone’s opinion would be insanely appreciated. I’m needing Hep A, Hep B, typhoid fever, tetanus, Yellow Fever, and they reccommend RABIES and MALARIA! NUTS!
    Thank you so much & Blessings to all.

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    • 1./ Where are you going exactly in South America?
      Are you going to be exposed to extreme circumstances far from civilization?

      If you are going as a tourist or will be there otherwise living a normal life /not drinking from contaminated water, working with infectious people etc../ you will be as if you were at home! They could recommend Hep A at home.. typhoid is very very rare, like a medieval ages epidemic when sewege and drinking water could flow together.. or when they could not bury thousands of dead bodies on battle fields for weeks and months..
      Tetanus: if you stab yourself, of someone stabs you with a long sharp object especially if it is rusty…. you should run to get one,,, but this might happen at home too..or if you get injured around animal feces…. you should getone
      Malaria: Only in season, when itis warm enogh.. andnow winter is beginning in the Sothern hemisphere,,,,, the mosquitos which potentially carry malaria /mosquito anopheles/ just like any other mosquitos, do like warm wet areas, and are activ only a fewhours in the evening /just like good old word moscitos in Europe…/ mainly at dusk between 7-10 PM. Ifyou are in such a warm wet area, in the evening use long sleeves, and long pants and some mosquito repellent.. nothing else. The same will protect you from yellow fever!

      I have been doing touroperation to some African countries. and have been there several times, neither myself, family and clients never ever encountered any health problems…. though urge is always stronge to get a load of vaccines if you call a doctor’s office!!!

      Finally, there is no COMPULSORY vaccination….. that is bullshit! Why would they care if tourists/visitors are vaccinated at all????

      Hope I could help

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      • Hi Estremadura,
        Thank you for your amazingly helpful reply. I will probably be heading to every country in Central America and possibly Venezuela and Peru (but have already been to Venezuela 2 times without any needed vaccines).
        I have done my Heb B, and have done one round of Hep A from a trip to Brazil a few years ago, so I’m thinking I will just do my second dose of Hep A to get it over and done with and that’s it. I will be traveling as a tourist, not working with animals or anything specific, I’ll probably be in small beach towns but I will, like you said, be living mostly like I do at home! Drinking bottled water and such.
        I think i’ll also skip the Malaria meds, and just take caution for the mosquitos. I have some recipes for homemade bug repellent so i’ll make sure I take plenty along with me as well as long pants and long sleeved shirts.
        I am actually planning to contact the embassies of each country just to double check and see if anything is MANDATORY, and if not, i’ll just complete my Hep A.
        Also, the travel clinic told me I’ll be needing a RABIES vaccine since I will be doing such “long term” travel. Ridiculous right? Even more ridiculous is that it costs about 350$!!!!

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        • Dear Hillary!!!!

          You rare welcome!

          Well.. there is no one standing at the port of entry checking for vaccination records of wealthy foreign tourists! And as you mention you are going to be a tourist , living and spending time at a highere life standard than 90% ofthe locals….. Venezuela has got luxury resorts, you won’tbe going into the “favellas” other than indiginous people millions of Europeans , Spanish, Italian, Germans etc do live there long term and don’t get vaccinated.
          I guess Peru because of the high elevations is going to be cold. so no mosquitos can survive! I wonder if any “drug pusher” doctor has mentioned an existing danger in Peru, however. And that is rare oxygen! One of my father’s friend, an engineer from Finland died there, his heart stopped.. and my childhood dentist died in Tibet… again the same, her heart stopped at extreme elevations /for her/ So she is having her eternal sleep on the high plateus of Tibet.. closest to the Gods!

          Rabies is ridiculous… the feral cat population and racoons in the US at our doorstep is more dangerous as far as rabies is concerned!

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  76. So …. have you ever stopped and asked yourself why so many people are falling victim to cancer, autism etc…. ? because no body ever seems to ask that question!
    I am not saying vaccines are on their own responsible for these diseases BUT i am 100% certain they are a major contributing factor.
    Just the comment ‘kids that are vaccinated are amongst some of the healthiest kids versus those that are unvaccinated just shows you have no idea what you are talking about, vaccinations are not intended to make you healthier…. they are intended to reduce the risk of serious health complications occurring from contracting the disease the vaccination is intended for but anyone who knows two bits about vaccines will know that the vaccinations are not 100% affective even when they cause no side effects which i am sure is very rare.
    Don’t say you know no one who has had side effects or lasting damage from a vaccine, how many people do you know with learning problems, low immune systems, etc…. etc… i could go on for ever.
    It is a fact that vaccines contain substances KNOWN to cause long lasting sometimes permanent damage to the body and the brain not to mention the link between SIDS.
    Our ever growing disease riddled population is not caused by the few parents who have the balls to not vaccinate their kids but by ‘our’ awful lifestyle choices…
    Vaccines, artificial sweeteners, preservatives, overuse of antibiotics, painkillers, other manmade drugs, refined sugars, processed meats, mobile phones, wireless signals, pesticides, chemicals in cleaners make-up and other beauty products.
    The way to stay healthy is to avoid these things and you can bet that non vaccinated kids are exposed to these things far less than ‘most’ vaccinated kids because the parents are aware of the damages that can be caused, so to say vaccinated kids are healthier is ridiculous!

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  77. Davanee wahlquist May 2, 2013 at 10:09 am

    Do you have to breastfeed if you don’t vaccinate? I’m worried I won’t produce enough milk… Please clarify so I can rest. Some say to breast feed then til 2.. I don’t know about this.. Help??
    Thanks in advance,
    D

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  78. Whoa! this must of been written by someone that doesn’t know anything. I’ve had every single vaccine that should be given to a child and I have never had an adverse effect to any. My baby will also receive every vaccine that his/her pediatrician recommends. There is no logical prove that vaccines cause cancer, autism, etc. Kids who are vaccinated are some of the healthiest kids verses those kids who are un-vaccinated. I don’t want my child(ren) to be surrounded by other kids who are caring deadly diseases. Polio, smallpox, mumps, measles and other illnesses have been virtually eliminated in the developed nations, because of vaccines…now that parents are choosing to not vaccinated their child(ren) these disease are slowly going to return and kill children. Now i understand that some cant get them because of allergies, but not getting your kids vaccinated for shits and giggles is straight up dumb!! VACCINATE YOUR CHILDREN OR KEEP THEM AWAY FROM OTHER KIDS!

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    • Finally someone is talking sense on this post! thank you Sarah Sweet for being level-headed and understanding the importance of vaccines. To all you people who don’t vaccinate their children, you do not understand the risk you are placing your own children at and the children around them are also put at risk by your stupid decisions. It is the 21st century and many life-threatening diseases have died out in the Western world due to VACCINES! Screw your head on straight and start looking after the health of your children and others around them.

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  79. I’m quite jaded by medical professionals because of many personal experiences, however I see that there is a time and place for medical intervention. My only wish is that Drs weren’t so narrow-minded when it comes to alternative medicine. A bunch of folks keep saying that Drs did after all go to medical school, but they’re practicing what they were taught so in effect it’s not completely their fault. I am surprised how few physicians truly study nutrition other then a a couple dietary classes. I’m convinced our diet has more to do with our health then anything else. But who am I right-I didn’t go to med school. Medicine is an evolving science. They’ve been wrong before and that’s fine. Just have the humility to admit it and not make complete blanket statements about us foolish crazy non-vaccinating public.

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  80. I know of a child that was unvaccinated that wasn’t as healthy as a child that was. Because you know she uh died. Whooping cough was all but eradicated – and this baby was too young to get the vaccination. She relied on herd immunity you know other people around her to be vaccinated so that she wouldn’t get the disease. Unfortunetly people in her community decided they didn’t want to give their children the pertussis vaccine so this little 3 month old got pertussis, her little body couldn’t handle it and she died. An easily preventable death in an non-vaccinated child who was not as healthy as a vaccinated one. Yeah the other children didn’t die… because they were older and their bodies were more able to handle the disease.
    What about those who are immunocompressed and can’t be vaccinated and rely on herd immunity (which requires roughly 75-94% vaccination depending on the virus) so that they don’t get severely ill.
    And secondly you don’t inject vaccinations into your child’s blood. If you have a dr that wants to do that they I don’t blame you for not trusting them. Almost all vaccinations are intramuscular and the ones that aren’t (like polio) are given orally…

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  81. on one hand audrey i agree with you on the fact that slavery should have been abolished but i completely juxtapose your idea that Neil Armstrong was the first man on the moon as i know it was none other than Daniel Goodall, i think this song summarises my thoughts.

    I like big butts and i cannot lie, you other brothers cant deny, when a girl walks in with the iddy biddy waist and a round thing in your face you get sprung.

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  82. Remember, that if one accepts scientific evidence of the dangers of certain drugs (which were only found to be dangerous by using scientific methods) one also has to accept scientific evidence in support of vaccines. Polio? Killing and paralyzing 10,000 children, plus, children in the US every year in the 1950s, now totally gone from this country because of vaccines.

    Smallpox? Worldwide deaths in 20th century estimated at 300 million. Deaths since 1977? none. Thank you vaccines and thank you to the scientific, evidence based process that got us here.

    Science has many error-checking mechanisms built in to the process. To argue that drug companies have to pull drugs because they are found to be deadly defacto argues that since vaccines, like polio, have been on the market for generations, they are thus not deadly.

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    • Well said. Not saying that vaccines are perfect – they aren’t, and children do die from side effects, but many epidemiologists say far fewer than would be lost to the disease – but I also wish that many of the “natural” products on health food store shelves had to go under as close a scrutiny that vaccines have to. And yet people flock to buy, somehow trusting the non-research and anecdotal evidence around those products far more than heavily scrutinized vaccines. This causes me great confusion, as it does my colleagues in the nursing profession.

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  83. DEAR ALL AND WITH RESPECTS TO BOTH SIDES , I AM FROM A SIMPLE NON WEALTHY FARMERS BACKGROUND ,,ALL MY GRANDPARENTS LIVED A HAPPY LONG AND HEALTHY LIFE ALL AVERAGED 97-104 YEARS OF AGE. MY MOTHER’S AUNT IS STILL ALIVE TODAY AND STILL ACTIVE ( ALTHOUGH SHE COOKS ONLY NO CLEANING ) SHE WAS BORN IN 1922…I HAVE ASKED MOST OF MY FAMILY ABOUT THIS VACCINE ISSUE ,NON OF THEM HAD VACCINES THEY DID NOT EVEN KNOW WHAT IT WAS OR WHY? AND AT MANY STAGES OF THEIR LIFE THEY HAD BEEN EXPERIENCING AND HAD BEEN EXPOSED TO APPALLING HYGIENE CONDITIONS ESPECIALLY AT TIMES OF WAR W 2 ,NO FOOD ,NO MEDICINE ,WE ARE FROM THE SOUTH OF TURKEY.SO WHATS ALL THE FUSS ABOUT???? HEALTH IS EITHER THERE OR NOT VACCINES ARE A LUXURY THAT SAYS NOTHING TO US ,I AM 48 NEVER HAD A SHOT N MY LIFE AND NOT EVEN 1 CAVITY IN MY TOOTH.

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  84. There is nothing better than reading through 2years worth of fools comments, in 1994 the uk pushed for the mmr vaccine to be made available to the whole country because of the idiots that didn’t get ther children vaccinated and started of the epidemic. 92% of the countries 7.4million children ages 5-16 go the vaccination and only 2 cases of severe flu where ever reported and seems as the vaccine was pushed through the months of October to December than flu from other sources seems highly likely.
    Don’t be silly people get up kids vaccinated

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    • You know, I don’t think the problem stemmed from just a few standard vaccines. Back when I was a kid we were vaccinated… and most of us turned out okay! However, today kids and babies are getting soooooo many more vaccines than we ever used to! Vaccines against dreadful diseases like chicken pox (really?? they tried to get my year 7 son vaccinated for it this year…), and Hepatitis B (for newborns no less! A baby just a couple of days old being vaccinated for a disease that’s generally sexually transmitted or transmitted via blood…hmmm), and then there’s HPV which hasn’t even been proved to WORK yet, and yet which has caused a great deal of harm to many young people (no, not all… but again, it’s against a disease that’s largely preventable, and well screened for…). Add to this the ingredients that are actually IN the vaccine, and the way many vaccines are manufactured (aborted fetal cells!!).

      If vaccination could be made completely safe, and was completely reliable, I’d be more on the side of vaccination. Right now I think it’s going too far, and the number of vaccinations being given to babies is beyond ridiculous. If you’re going to vaccinate, fine, but do your research… REFUSE to get a newborn vaccinated (unless it’s for a VERY GOOD REASON ie. the mother is a carrier of the disease), and spread out the vaccines over a longer schedule.

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  86. to Nicole Toole,
    I would tell your friend with the new baby to not get that vaccine and instead stay home with the baby. People can wait to meet the baby until they are older and more robust.

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  87. Fair enough to review both sides of a very debatable topic however we should compare quantifiable research not hear-say and rumors. I have a 9 month old son and reviewed this topic back and forth however in the argument of not-to-vaccinate I have yet to see any research to support. The argument is supported by hear say stories of “I didn’t vaccinate and see my kids are fine’, newspaper articles, doctors who say ‘in my opinion’ however they do not represented and entire field of medicine, and yes quoting the on the few incidents of a complication of vaccination (how many complications occur compared to how many vaccinations given – pretty low). There are complications in any medical procedure no matter how simple the procedure may be. Children have died from a simple tonsil or appendix removal unfortunately – wish it wasn’t true but yes it does happen – would you still have the procedure for your child? I can go on to the non-evidenced based material however let’s look at to vaccinate – there are many double blinded research studies conducted world wide to prove the effectiveness of vaccination versus non-vaccination. These research studies look at the short term and long term. Look at how we now see a resurgence of things such as Whooping cough and Tb.

    I respect every parents choice to do what they feel is best for your child especially as we all know becoming a parent seems to give everyone else a right to tell you how to raise your child :) (even if you didn’t ask their opinion). I do believe that making a decision based on research versus hearsay.

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  88. Sarah, what are your thoughts on the whooping cough going around right now and newborn babies? I didn’t vaccinate my children but my friend just had a baby and will be taking her to several large social events and people are telling her she needs to get the baby vaccinated at the very least for whooping cough. Thanks so much!

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  89. “Vaccination is an extremely controversial topic these days.”

    No it isn’t. The scientifically illiterate spreading conspiracy hypotheses does not a controversy make.

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  90. I have a serious and awkward situation…. I work for WIC as a Breastfeeding Peer Counselor in the state of TX. I have been demanded to come in and vaccinate or re-vaccinate this Friday or risk losing my job. The vaccines include varicella, TB test, TDap booster, Hep,….My problem is that I am pretty healthy and never get sick, even though I have a typical American diet….I had a very severe case of the chicken pox as a Kindergartener in 1983. My mother was going through cancer treatment at the time and died in 85. My father remarried and we changed pediatricians. Unless I have a letter from a healthcare professional stating that I have already had the chicken pox I am ordered to get the vaccine. I really do not want to have a shingles outbreak because I get this vaccine and already have the immunity. I have never had chicken pox outbreak since my initial one, even though I have been exposed multiple times. Any ideas will be greatly appreciated. I also do not want to lose my job.

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  91. Interestingly, the other day I came across an envelope of old speeches written c1902 (one was dated so I assume the others were of a similar era). The thing that fascinated me was one was about the evils of compulsory vaccination! Very interesting that over 110 years ago many people were wary of the dangers of vaccination and skeptical of its efficacy.

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  92. As a parent, you may not like seeing your baby or child being given an injection. However, vaccination is an important step in protecting your child against a range of serious and potentially fatal diseases.

    Vaccinations are quick, safe and extremely effective. Once your child has been vaccinated against a disease, their body can fight that disease more effectively if they come into contact with it. If a child isn’t vaccinated, they will be at increased risk of catching the illness.

    There will always be some children who are unavoidably unprotected because:

    -they can’t be vaccinated for medical reasons
    -they’re too young to be vaccinated
    -they can’t get to the vaccine services
    -for a few, the vaccine doesn’t work
    But if more parents have their children vaccinated, then more children in the community will be protected against catching an illness. This lowers the chance of an outbreak of the disease.

    The only time that it’s safe to stop vaccinating children against an illness is when the disease has been wiped out worldwide.

    For example, when every country had eliminated smallpox in 1979, vaccination against the disease was stopped. It’s hoped that polio will soon be eradicated, and that measles may follow.

    just saying.

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  93. As a parent, you may not like seeing your baby or child being given an injection. However, vaccination is an important step in protecting your child against a range of serious and potentially fatal diseases.

    Vaccinations are quick, safe and extremely effective. Once your child has been vaccinated against a disease, their body can fight that disease more effectively if they come into contact with it. If a child isn’t vaccinated, they will be at increased risk of catching the illness.

    There will always be some children who are unavoidably unprotected because:

    -they can’t be vaccinated for medical reasons
    -they’re too young to be vaccinated
    -they can’t get to the vaccine services
    -for a few, the vaccine doesn’t work
    But if more parents have their children vaccinated, then more children in the community will be protected against catching an illness. This lowers the chance of an outbreak of the disease.

    The only time that it’s safe to stop vaccinating children against an illness is when the disease has been wiped out worldwide.

    For example, when every country had eliminated smallpox in 1979, vaccination against the disease was stopped. It’s hoped that polio will soon be eradicated, and that measles may follow.

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  96. First I must acknowledge that I am an educated health professional and therefore I am biased in this opinion. The success of immunizations is it’s own greatest enemy. Take the MMR vaccine for example. When introduced in the early 1960′s, people were welcoming of immunizations. At this time, there were up to 400,000 cases occurring annually (Public Health Agency of Canada, 2013). Mortality rates for measles are as high as 5 per 1000 infected cause (Public Health Agency of Canada, 2013). This means that in 400,000 cases of measles, 2000 infected people die.
    I pose this question to any vaccine skeptic: Is it appropriate for all people to stop immunizing against MMR? I think it is unfair to only consider “one person not immunizing.” If it is appropriate for one person to not immunize then it should be appropriate for all of us to stop immunizing. If this were to happen, theoretically, disease and correlating mortality rates will increase to the previous 400,000 and 2000 persons/ year. How many people died of the MMR vaccine this year?
    Risk of disease outweighs the risks of immunization. In a world where we don’t see the impact of disease, we are distracted by the risk of immunization.

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  97. Pokey the Penguin January 31, 2013 at 8:34 pm

    Sarah, you are utterly retarded. Please kill yourself before you spread anymore of your anti-common sense garbage.

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    • what an awful thing to say Pokey. It seems that you like to say the worst things without the fear of people knowing who you are. That is typical cowardice that comes with trolling.
      If you disagree find a respectful way to say it.

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      • How many people are going to get sick and die from listening to this asshole? It’s better that she self-terminate. There’s no vaccine for stupid and she’s got a bad case.

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        • Again, Pokey, if you disagree find a respectful way to say it. You kill your message by being so hateful.
          Perhaps something like “I am really concerned about the advice that Sarah is giving, how many people are going to get sick and die from listening to her advice?”.
          It is not hard to be respectful and still disagree.

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  98. You’re posts are not based on any science and you are giving medical advice based soley on your opinion. You are endangering not just those children who will now get measeles or other childhood illnesses but those who they come in contact with. For a source, I live outside the US, in a country where vaccines are necessary to survive, and I am glad that people here have not forgotten how valuable the advances in vaccines are, and have not bought into the one autism/vaccine linked study which has been repeatedly discredited.

    Prove your statements with a scholarly reviewed, double blind study or stop posting this crock. You aren’t medically trained, you have only second hand knowledge of the science behind vaccinations, and should you wish to continue to post this, you should put a disclaimer that you do not support this view enough to take responsibilty for the effects of your views. If you are so confident that these vacinations are dangerous, goto a country where children die if they cannot get these vaccines. Then you’ll see what could happen without herd immunizations.

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    • I had all of the childhood illnesses. So all of my classmates. So had my mother, father, many family members, who lived up to 80-90, 90+ years wiht almost no medcal attention.
      I haven’t seen a doctor either for the last 30 years, and have no plans to see any of them for the next 30. I have had the most basic vaccinations, don’t take medications to prevent any deseases, either.
      Whole countries, and nations with 1/50 of “health care ” costs of that of theUS, do have similar life expectancy… Society in the US is overmedicalized, which costs tremoundously , and still one of the worst nation, health wise in the developed world!
      During hundreds and thousand years we have learned ways to combat accute illnesses, but we don’t know the mid and long term results of this medical and farmaceutical experiment, what we call western,allopatic medicine. We have never had so many chronically ill people, than now,, and not only the old!

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      • the reason the USAs health care costs so much is because it’s a war zone. in other country’s you get helped, end of. but in the US if there is a slight thing you are unhappy about then you get a lawyer and sue. this forces hospitals and other practices to charge ridiculous amounts of money as otherwise if they go sued they would go out of business (and i used this term as nobody will support a failing establishment and hospitals are no exception).

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  99. Not insulting anyone, but there are so many logical fallacies in Sarah’s arguments.

    In addition, there is little actual peer reviewed evidence that supports any of Sarah’s arguments. Merely saying that the doctors are being bought out by pharmaceuticals and replacing it with anecdotal evidence is not proof of anything.

    To any parents reading, I implore you to take the advice of professionals and doctors. Don’t put your children and society at risk.

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  100. Sarah, thank you for this post. I totally 100% agree with you! I will never vaccinate my child, (he is 8 months now) Happy, healthy and vaccine free. I don’t care what corrupted medical organ say about the vaccine, to me they are TOXIC!! It’s my baby and my choice. Doctors in this country are brain washed about a drugs and I don’t trust them. I use to live in Europe and i can honestly say that, the doctor approach to drugs is completely different, they ask you to try natural remedies before they inject you with drugs. So to all this people that decide to ruin their children life’s by injecting them with garbage I have one word; ignorance is bliss !!!

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  101. I didn’t vaccinate my son. He is the healthiest boy i know. If your child is vaccinated, why do you care? Vaccines do not prevent sickness. So sad how people are brainwashed. :( Doctors are regular people that went to school for a long time to have “m.d” after their name. Question: When you got your child vaccinated, did the doctor give you a list of all the ingredients? Lead, suflates, chemicals, preservatives, etc?

    Didn’t think so!

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    • It affects other children because your child could contract the disease, not be sick but allow it to use them as a host and mutate. That will make vaccine resistant diseases. You attack doctors because of their “title” but what experience do you have in this subject? Not articles read or podcasts you listen to, but actual experience? Have you participated in a double blind study of vacination vs natural immunization? Vaccines do actually prevent illnesses…. that’s exactly how they work. They aren’t created for pure profit, but out of a necessity to survive. If you don’t believe that leave your comfy suburaban life, and goto a country where your child wouldn’t last 5 years without contracting Malaria, Yellow Fever, Typhoid, Cholera, or some other awful disease. Then tell me how your alternative treatments will help him/her.

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  102. Sarah,
    this is a wonderful article and i applaud you courage in writing it.
    i am most amazed at the comments though…. its supprising to see ppl who said they vaccinated their kids spending so much time writing on the benefits of vax with only the FDA website as their “prove”. (i smell big pharma trolls)…
    its dificult for me to believe b’cos i have not seen anyone who actually researched vaccines and still got it willingly…. All the ppl i know that got their kids vax and that have actually researched vaxs are regretting it.

    though i am an African, i do understand the concept of trolls and a great article like this will definitely get trolls.

    Here in Africa, some (very few) of us know the dangers of this and we can point to our generation and our parents as example of unvacinated and yet healthy ppl.
    while growing up, some of us noticed that it was only the children of rich, educated ppl (as so, vaccinated ppl) that use eye glasses at early age, and have asthma… (i never knw what asthma was till i was 20 yrs old) have fertility problems and cancer…(???)
    our ancestors have no name for cancer because they never had the desease.

    i know sm ppl will disagree with me bcos holywood has trained u to believe that Africans are dying of malnutrition and deseases but just take a good look at the next olympics or new york marathon to see how strong we are (and ofcourse once u go black….).

    so, Sarah, thanks for this article, it is very helpfull in making my vaccination decisions. may the God(s) of your ancestors guide and be with you.

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  103. I fully respect any parent’s decision to vaccinate or not to vaccinate. However, I have a difficult time trusting any “medical” article or article providing medical advice or opinions that does not supply sources for their data. Reliable sources at that. Also, in an argument, it is most effective to provide supporting data relivent to the subject: re: your section on pharmaceutical companies.

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  104. This was just HIL-A-RIOUS! My favorite part of this article is when Sarah talks about the 24 infants harmed by the second Rotavirus vaccine. 24 out of how many?! Hundreds of thousands?! Side effects are common with any medication and the fact that you’re using such a miniscule percentage to sway people from vaccinations is ridiculous and humorous. Paranoid quacks like this just crack me up.

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  105. AGREE with everything you’ve said except this:

    “Conversely, you can never undo a vaccination. There are holistic therapies that can detox a child from the vaccine’s poison, but the damage that is done can never be 100% repaired.”

    My son was DXed with Autism at 3. I know he was poisoned by the vaxes AND my 8 dental mercury amalgams & crowns (since removed) in vitro. I know know that “autism” is heavy metal (mercury & aluminum mostly) poisoning as the symptoms are identical:

    http://www.vaccinationnews.com/scandals/feb_15_02/comparison_symptoms.htm

    But now he has recovered from this nightmarish syndrome. It took years, but we chelated the metals out using Dr. Andrew Hall Cutler’s protocol, a chemist who devised an inexpensive way to bind heavy metals, and dislodge them from your body. Nothing holistic here, just Chemistry 101.

    http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/chelationnetwork/chelation-the-andy-cutler-protocol/

    Once the poison has been removed, the immune system repairs itself, and the comorbid conditions (candida, eczema, GI issues, etc.) Amazing how the body can repair itself!

    I once had a child headed for an institutional life who now thrives in a normal school, without aides or therapies of any kind, free of any disability.

    Wish more than anything I hadn’t vaxxed, but there IS a way out for most ADD, ASD, ADHD.

    LOVE your candor! ;-)

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  107. This may have been addressed already, but I just couldn’t spend anymore time reading through all the comments (I have Thanksgiving dinner stuff to prepare.)
    Anyways, we are in the military and mover a lot, and every time we move I have to present my children’s shot records and show that they are up-to-date. My children were all vaccinated, it has only been recently that I started doing more research. So my question is this…what do you do about the schools that won’t allow children that have not received all their vaccinations?

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  108. I have a 7 month old daughter. She has not been vaccinated. I did not know much about vaccines or their ingredients or their risks until not long ago. I have made an effort to educate myself about them, all in the interest of my child. I wish I had done it sooner. I knew in my heart that it was so wrong to stick a needle full of god knows what into a fragile new baby fresh into the big scary world. All she needs is a warm soft breast and a loving mother, why would I subject her to the “schedule” of people who have no connection to her?
    What I kick myself for overlooking is how this does not only apply to us humans, but to our beloved animals too. I was on the fence about certain vaccines for my daughter, but without a second thought brought my beautiful 91 pound best friend to the vet for his bill of health and shots to go through Canada (as we were moving down from Alaska).
    At the vet’s office, they examined Toklat and gave him a CERTIFICATE of GOOD HEALTH. Then the vet gave him his Rabies shot and asked if I wanted to give him the Distemper/Parvo. He gave me the schpeil on all of the infectious dog diseases in the lower 48, some of which could be fatal. Sure? Why not (how can it be bad)? Stupid me. I will regret this for the rest of my life.
    He gave the shots, charged us 80$ and sent us on our way. Little did I know that I only had one week left with my magnificent white magical dog (yes, he really was that amazing.) We noticed that he seemed lethargic and sluggish that night, but seemed better by the next day. We thought nothing of it. We went for walks, went to town, played around the house, and he watched us frantically pack our belongings in our little sedan and ready for our move. 5 days later he became lethargic again. He didn’t eat much, wasn’t excited to go for a walk (VERY abnormal), didn’t jump for joy when my friends came to visit (also very weird) and didn’t do much at all. Except eat a lot of grass and throw it up. The next day when I came back from town, he could hardly walk- he was staggering and running into things. He had gone blind in one eye. I called the breeder who I had met by chance two weeks before and she advised me to buy some detox remedies which I did and proceeded to give him. She said that he’d had a seizure and this had happened to one of her dogs following the rabies vaccine also. Detoxing seemed to help, but against her advice I didn’t let him sleep in our room that night. I was too afraid of a 4 month old baby sleeping in the room with a 90 pound dog having seizures. He had more seizures in the night, and he had lost sight in his other eye. I knew because I tried to walk him around and he ran into everything. It was tearing me apart. Things were no longer looking up, and at some point that day he lost his hearing too. We kept him in the house, put all else on hold, and tried to comfort him, but he just stumbled through the living room- he couldn’t stay in one spot. He even climbed over the couch to get to his bed because he remembered that it was on the other side of the ottoman. It was so painful to watch. More painful was when he stopped pacing. He was probably so tired, he just fell against my husband who was holding him. Then he lay down on his side on the floor and he didn’t get up anymore. I wasn’t even sure if he could hear me anymore, he just laid there with a glazed look in his eyes, breathing shallow breaths with these occasional big heaving sighs. He lay there in a coma for five hours before I had to make the call to put him to sleep. My beautiful lively companion of four years who just one week before was ready to do anything on a moment’s notice was now beyond help. The only thing that could have caused this was the vaccines, in fact the vet had given me an OFFICIAL CERTIFICATE OF GOOD HEALTH to prove it.
    I have learned my lesson the hardest way. It has wrenched my heart enough losing my dog in this way- I think I would die if it were my daughter. I hate that he had to be my eye opener, but I am grateful for the service he has done for our family, which shall ever remain vaccine free.

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  113. I was reading this website and the posts. First of all it is ethically someones choice to decide if they imunize themselves or their children. But to be able to make this decision the person must be informed. Everyone has a different view on this issue but the CURRENT research shows that immunzing is safe and can potentially protect you and your family against potential life threatening diseases. The first issue is yes there are adverse reactions to immunizations just like there are to every medications. BUT, adverse reactions are ANY reactions that occur even if they are mild such as a sore arm after an immunization. So when it is said on this website that there have been 1600 adverse reactions to the gardisil vaccine well yes maybe that number was right but how many of those were serious reactions? The drug companies are requred to state all possible adverse reactions they recorded during studies even if only one person experienced that reaction and the gardisil vaccine * actual side effects (you will notice paralysis is not one of them) The side effects include pain, swelling, itching, bruising, and redness at the injection site, headache, fever, nausea, dizziness, vomiting, and fainting. Fainting can happen after getting GARDASIL. Sometimes people who faint can fall and hurt themselves. For this reason, your health care professional may ask you to sit or lie down for 15 minutes after you get GARDASIL. Some people who faint might shake or become stiff. This may require evaluation or treatment by your health care professional.
    Visit http://www.fda.gov/medwatch
    As of right now:
    Each day in the United States, 30 women are diagnosed with cervical cancer (about 11,000 women per year) and it is estimated that each minute there is a new case of genital warts in men and women.
    Now that you know that it is your choice to make the decision whether you want to take the chance to be vaccinated and possibly experience a side effect from the immunization OR you may contract the diease and experience the side effects from the disease which you may not even contract.
    The second issue is related to thimerisol and autism. There is no reliable research relating these two things. Thimerisol is ethylmercury which is excreted from the body by the intestines just like the food you eat. Methylmercury is the heavy metal that builds up in your body and can lead to poisoning and toxicity. Now the website claims that vaccines are poisonous and that drug companies hide things from us. Well the world health organization (which I believe works in the best intersest of the entire worlds health) has published studies on thimerisol among many other things and debunks the idea that it causes autism. *The Global Advisory Committee on Vaccine Safety concludes that there is no evidence of toxicity in infants, children or adults exposed to thiomersal (containing ethyl mercury) in vaccines.
    July 2006
    In 1999, concerns were raised in the United States of America about exposure to mercury in vaccines. This was based on the realization that the cumulative amount of mercury in the infant immunization schedule potentially exceeded the recommended threshold set by the United States government for methyl mercury. However, thiomersal, the preservative in some vaccines, contains ethyl mercury not methyl mercury. The Global Advisory Committee on Vaccine Safety (GACVS) first assessed this issue at a special meeting in August 2000. The Committee review has been ongoing since then.
    Expert consultation and data presented to the GACVS indicate that the pharmacokinetic profile of ethyl mercury is substantially different from that of methyl mercury. The half-life of ethyl mercury is short (less than one week) compared to methyl mercury (1.5 months) making exposure to ethyl mercury in blood comparatively brief. Further, ethyl mercury is actively excreted via the gut unlike methyl mercury that accumulates in the body.
    Four independently conducted epidemiological studies investigating associations and frequency of neurobehavioural disorders in relation to vaccination with thiomersal-containing vaccines have been completed in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and Denmark. The findings from these studies do not challenge the safety of existing thiomersal-containing vaccines in infants. Recently two studies were published alleging reduction of neurodevelopmental disorders in the United States of America following discontinuation of thiomersal-containing vaccines in the national immunization programme. The Committee found the conclusions made by the authors unconvincing due to the study design, and the data source.
    The GACVS reviewed available information on an ongoing thiomersal pharmacokinetic study in macaque monkeys and assessed the validity of animal models in studying associations between thiomersal and neurobehavioural disorders in humans. The Committee was informed of ongoing human neurobehavioural studies and thiomersal exposure in the United States of America and Italy and of a study on the suitability of thiomersal-free vaccines in multidose vial presentations, assessed by retained sterility for up to 30 days.
    On the basis of the foregoing, the GACVS concluded that the most recent pharmacokinetic and developmental studies do not support concerns over the safety of thiomersal (ethyl mercury) in vaccines. The Committee concluded, and advises accordingly, that there is no reason on grounds of safety to change current immunization practices with thiomersal-containing vaccines, as the risks are unproven. However, data for well-nourished neonates born at term cannot necessarily be extrapolated to preterm or malnourished infants. Studies on the latter group would be difficult to conduct, but the GACVS encourages further research.
    The GACVS will continue to review the evidence, including any epidemiological data, that might emerge from on-going studies.
    The GACVS is a scientific advisory body established by WHO to provide a reliable and independent scientific assessment of vaccine safety issues in order to respond promptly, efficiently and with scientific rigour to such issues. Membership includes experts from around the world in the fields of epidemiology, paediatrics, internal medicine, pharmacology and toxicology, infectious diseases, public health, immunology and autoimmunity, drug regulation, and safety.
    Now these are just some of the facts. I hope if you are trying to decide whether to vaccinate or not you fin published research studies that are peer-reviewed. They are your most reliable source not a website like this which claims you should make your own decision and then scares you with the writers own personal paranoid beliefs. Anything can happen and the best thing we can do is make an informed decision that we are comfortable with. Vaccines may not be 100% effective sometimes and well lets face it everyones bodies work a little differently but if we can take the chance and even if we are healthy and know we will be fine if we catch the disease we should think about the people who might not be able to fight off the disease we may be spreading to them.

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    • Where is the evidence that Gardasil ACTUALLY WORKS? Really? If I could see 100% clear EVIDENCE that Gardasil actually prevented cervical cancer, and that there were NO DANGEROUS SIDE EFFECTS at all from the vaccine, I’d consider vaccinating my daughter.

      As it is, I don’t believe there is any evidence it protects against cervical cancer, and it seems that the number of adverse side effects that people who have had the vaccine have experienced, actually outnumber the number of people who die from cervical cancer (and if I didn’t explain that well, if you get the numbers per 100,000 population, the incidence of dying of cervical cancer is lower than the incidence of side effect from the vaccine). No I can’t remember the numbers, but I HAVE researched this!

      Also, where I live they only vaccinate GIRLS with Gardasil. How very ridiculous! If you want to create some sort of “herd immunity” don’t you have to vaccinate 95% of the population? And as the girls who catch genital warts will, the majority of the time, contract it from MALES, then wouldn’t it make more sense to vaccinate ALL KIDS and not just female ones? (Really, that part strikes me as more stupid than anything else… how on earth does one eradicate a disease through vaccination while leaving over 50% of the population unvaccinated??!)

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  114. My son had started speaking a few words by one year, and after his round of vaccinations at 18 months, suddenly stopped those words. It was very scary! I began researching like crazy and determined to not vaccinate again! I started giving him raw milk, and started giving him cod liver oil pills every day (good for the brain!) The week of his third birthday, he began talking again – praise the Lord!!

    Now he is 6, and the doctor is really urging me to get him caught up with his vaccinations. Since we homeschool, I’m not running into any problems with the school district requiring it, thankfully.

    I’m wondering how necessary annual “wellness” check-ups are if a parent is choosing not to vaccinate ??? Would love some feedback. He is totally “well.” So, is it necessary? I am dreading a vaccination talk with my doctor – or even worse, the nurse! ) :

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  115. Sarah, here is a doctor who would agree with you completely. As for all you critics who want a highly educated doctor with excellent credentials who’s against vaccines here you go!!

    Dr. Palevsky received his medical degree from the NYU School of Medicine in 1987. He completed a pediatric residency at the Mount Sinai Hospital in NYC, and a fellowship at Bellevue Hospital-NYU School of Medicine in the pediatric outpatient department and emergency room by 1991.

    Dr. Palevsky began his career working as a pediatrician in the emergency room of Our Lady of Mercy Medical Center in the Bronx, NY from 1991-1995. He served as the Chief of the Pediatric Acute Care Unit at NYC’s Lenox Hill Hospital from 1995-1998, and continued on in the Department of Pediatrics at Lenox Hill until March 2000. In April 2000, Dr. Palevsky began his practice as the holistic integrative pediatrician for the Center for Health & Healing, an integrative and complementary care medical facility affiliated with the Beth Israel Medical Center in NYC.

    Since 1991, Dr. Palevsky’s clinical practice experience includes pediatric emergency and intensive care medicine, in-patient and out-patient pediatric medicine, neonatal intensive care medicine, newborn and delivery room medicine, and conventional, holistic and integrative pediatric private practice in NYC.

    Dr. Palevsky is a Fellow of the American Academy of Pediatrics, Past — President of the American Holistic Medical Association, a Diplomate of the American Board of Integrative Holistic Medicine, and a medical advisory board member to the Natural Gourmet Institute for Food & Health in New York City, Developmental Delay Resources and the National Vaccine Information Center.

    I highly recommend reading through his website: http://www.drpalevsky.com

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  116. I cannot understand what vaccinated children you are looking at, but mine are healthy as horses…. as is the rest of the household. We get sick SO infrequently, in fact, that it’s astonishing to me some times. We practice good hygiene, eat right, and take herbal supplements as well as vitamins. We are GREAT.

    I realize there are certain situations where people have been less lucky than my family in these areas, but you seem to put out the message that if you vaccinate, you cannot possibly be as healthy. This is ignorance at it’s finest, and untrue.

    I feel sorry for the new and confused mom (where we all have been once in our lives) who is researching this VERY important area for her child/children and happens upon this blog post. The way you come across is rude, uninformed, and completely one sided. It really doesn’t matter if your dad were a doctor or a diesel mechanic. Such a bunch of irrelevant information that seems to have been presented to make YOU sound educated enough. My dad drives an 18 wheeler for a living, and has since 1974. I cannot even drive a standard shift family car. I make no claims that put me at a position to give advice so high and mighty to people looking to learn the trucking industry. I’m a MOM, and in that area, I can ADVISE. But I would NEVER assert myself as you have here.

    Shame on you for discouraging parents and swaying them to only ONE side of the coin. I vaccinated my kids. I did my homework and made a decision based on what I believe, for ME and MY kids. PERIOD. What I would say to a new mom would be to weigh out options… do your homework, thoroughly, and do NOT listen to people who cannot look at 2 sides of the coin. I believe in weighing out options and deciding on each vaccination… not to be a sheep, but to be an informed, caring parent who can educate herself and keep my mouth shut and mind open when necessary. We must, as GOOD parents, weigh out RISKS TO BENEFITS… which is a very important area that you didn’t even go near. Shaking my head.

    Above all, you were very insulting to anybody who vaccinated their kids. Some people are not aware of options. They simply do not know that you can say no. You should be more helpful instead of so rude. Shaking my head again.

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  120. Ignorant Is The New Black (at least around here) September 15, 2012 at 4:54 pm

    Yet another case of someone who would rather blame all the problems of life on a vast, indistinct ‘power’ than assume any kind of responsibility or accept that life isn’t always fair. Hope that feeling of being “special” and “smart” is worth being so ignorant and selfish. I love how you keep telling people to do research or read the facts, when you completely ignore all information that proves how wrong basically ever you’ve ever said is. Simply refusing to acknowledge there are things outside your beliefs may work for a four year old, but when you have to deal with the real world that doesn’t cut it anymore.
    I personally hope that your kids die from (preferably vaccine preventable) diseases before they can breed, people as idiotic as you should be banned from reproducing.

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    • i completly understand everything your saying and agree with practically everything your saying.you thing the comment about her kids was pretty low. i mean she is a complete neanderthal, however i dont feel that wishing death upon her children was at all necssary. i know it wasn’t and im 14.

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  124. I believe your views are outdated and do not rely on valid research. You are making claims such as “HRT doubles the risk of breast cancer ” this is completely ludicrous and no study will show these numbers so where you get them is a secret. when you do quote numbers, you should always provide your sources so people like me can go to the source and see if the numbers come from a reputable study.

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  125. When my oldest son fell while carrying some glass jars, he cut his hand badly. He was 15 at the time. We took him to the emergency at the local hospital for stitches. The cut was very deep, but thankfully did not cut his tendon in his thumb. After the stitching was done, a group of four doctors came out into the waiting room to ask me what had I fed him that his blood was so strong. They said they had never seen such healthy blood. Well, I smiled and explained how it was not so much what I had given him as what I had not given him including vaccinations and white surgar. Nevertheless, it was only a week later when the local police, with the Child Welfare Department surrounded my house and took custidy of my children, accusing me of child neglect. As she left with my 4 children the Child Welfare Director told me, “And the first thing we are going to do is get them vaccinated.” It took almost one year before we were able to legally regain custidy of our children. We had been home-schooling also at the time. Finally, after five years of court battles, we came out totally vindicated by both the Criminal and Constitutional Courts. The judge in the District Court even accused the Welfare Department of acting like an inquisition and similar to those countries behind the then just dismantling “Iron Curtain.” This was in 1989-1990 until 1995. It was a difficult time, but our homeschooling was upheld and we were vindicated though received no compensation as we were financially unable to start a process against the government at the time, especially since our appropriate family and friends had deserted us. So, be careful, be meek, but find out what your rights are. My wife and I look back at those days as some of the most exciting times, as we were in the midst of the battle, often coming out on TV (and losing my job because of it as I was a teacher) and in the press. But it is better to live for something than die for nothing. Just yesterday, I was required to appear at the hospital to talk to a doctor because my children were not vaccinated. I had received a certified letter in the post. I told the doctor that receiving a letter like I had was very intimidating and that the government was using pyschological and social pressure to make me conform. Of course, she considered me a nut case when I refused to sign her papers, confirming that I did not want the vaccination program for my children. Maybe, I was wrong, but I felt, if it is not illegal to not have your children not vaccinated why do they put so much pressure on the individual to conform. Do we live in a democratic state or a dictatorship? Anyway, Lord help me to have wisdom and patience and not unnecessarily offend these “public servants.”

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    • “After the stitching was done, a group of four doctors came out into the waiting room to ask me what had I fed him that his blood was so strong.”

      What kind of hospital do you go to that they use such amateur language? Can “healthy blood” be “seen”? If it wasn’t “seen” by eye, by what metric do the doctors determine it’s so exceptionally healthy that they’ve never seen such a thing? Either you’re misremembering what was discussed (as could happen with technical language), thus distorting the story, or there is no truth to this. Or I guess the third possibility is that you went to some “hospital” with really, really subpar standard of care, in which case I don’t blame you for not trusting these medical “professionals.”

      If you are so anti-vaccine (for whatever concocted reason), take a stand and sign the medical exemption acknowledging that you’ve denied vaccines under informed consent.

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  126. This fear-mongering needs to stop. Instead of listening to this unqualified individual, find out from qualified medical professions, with scientific studies, why this article is complete bullshit.

    All this autism linked to vaccine started from Wakefield’s discredited paper in the Lancet, and those of you who actually did your homework will now know the paper was retracted and it was found that Wakefield committed serious professional misconduct in authoring that paper, and has his license pulled.

    Now would you trust this kind of study? Even if we disregard the history, let’s examine her arguments:

    1. Well… I guess no one should ever drive cars, or fly planes, since car crashes and plane crashes occurred in the past.

    2. The words “chemicals” and “poisons” are there to scare the uninformed – and these names can be very scary if you don’t know what they are. The heavy metals are in trace amounts (you get a bigger dose eating TUNA), and the toxic effects of others are widely exaggerated (glycerin being toxic? it’s less toxic than alcohol!)

    3. Anecdote – otherwise known as BULLSHIT in science. I can equally say “I know many mothers who are thankful for their children being vaccinated, and won’t have permanent side effects such as infertility from contracting mumps.” It’s worthless.

    4. She thinks correlation must mean causation – and really, that is the crux of the arguments of the anti-vaccine movement, as seen in all these comments.

    5. See point 1.

    6. This is just plain WRONG. The diseases the vaccines protect you against can have very permanent effects that Sarah deliberately omitted – she must’ve known about it since she “came from a medical family” – or she simply didn’t know, because coming from a “medical family” does not equal being accepted into medical school and being licensed to practice.

    At the end of the day, go to your primary care physician. Better yet, print this article out and bring it to them, and they will explain point by point why this is complete misinformation. There’s a reason doctors go through four years of medical school, and four or more years of residency. ANYONE can post bullshit on the internet, but maybe you should look at her qualifications first and decide.

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  129. I am 30 years old and have NEVER EVER been vaccinated in my entire life. My parents were extremely health conscious back in the early 80′s and did their homework, it’s a shame as you say a lot of vacuum mom’s these days just believe every word the doctor tells them and never take the time to do the research themselves. My brother and I are extremely healthy and never had any major health issues at all. We did get the chicken pox when were younger and it was fine, nothing some chamomile lotion couldn’t cure. I am about to have my 1st child and want to make sure I make an informed decision, I have done a ton of research and strongly feel that I will not be getting my child vaccinated. The pharmaceutical companies will have to find other ways to make money of me! Great article!

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  130. Has anyone had the experience with their child who, at birth had very dry skin, had the 6 week check and the DTap – IPV- HepB/Hib vaccination (I’m in New Zealand). A short while later, his dry skin became eczema, I would call it bad, but not terrible.
    I am now doing the GAPS diet for him.
    Has anyone had a similar experience and is doing GAPS? How are things going?
    Thanks

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    • Eczema is fairly normal in babies. Put some lotion on it. :) My daughter had eczema since birth, and still gets dry patches sometimes, but a good cream has really helped her, and it had nothing to do with vaccinations. She has sensitive skin so we use baby wash with no added fragrances.

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      • Thanks for your reply Healthy Mommy.
        I do wet wrapping and put some really thick lotion on his skin over night and am trying to put hard lotion bar moisturiser on him during the day. I never wash his skin with anything other than water.
        I can stop thinking about the relationship to his vaccination and his eczema appearing. So I’m being really careful about giving him anymore.
        Are you eating a traditional diet, or one that has no preservatives etc?

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        • Try washing her with castor oil on a soft cloth, then putting organic cold press coconut oil on her skin. Avoid perfumes in soaps for you and laundry as well. Some say lye soap helps also. Bathe often, even though you’ll hear the opposite, it helps to wash away irritants, keep the bath warm and short. Pat dry with a clean towel (no fabric softeners). Try doing the elimination diets, that seemed to help two friends with eczema kids. One of my friends kid grew out of it by 5 years old. My son had it mildly as a baby, never again after a year old. Can be lifelong, can be temp. My best friend had it until high school, then grew out of it. Lets not forget our body chemistry can change as frequently as every 7 years.

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  131. It’s ridiculous how much misinformation one person can spread. I will just point out a few. Glycerin- not dangerous, also found in many hand lotions, soup, etc..
    Vaccines are NOT administered “directly into the blood stream”. Most are administered SQ (under the skin) or IM (into the muscle). THAT is how a vaccine works. The body DOES have a chance to recognize what is going on, hence the anamnestic response kicks in.
    Neomycin- an antibiotic…which you already mentioned were in vaccines.
    Stating that the diseases prevented or lessened by vaccines are not fatal is absolutely absurd. The reason why YOUR kid doesn’t have to be vaccinated is because of all the moms who chose to vaccinate their own child. That is how diseases get eradicated. While your choices are fine for your own children, do not spread un-documented misinformation.

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    • Sarah, TheHealthyHomeEconomist

      Herd immunity is a myth. The reason I don’t have to vaccinate has nothing to do with everyone else getting vaccinated. Once again, something made up by pharma industry (herd immunity) taken as truth by the believing lemmings in medical and nursing schools. Herd immunity ONLY applies to natural immunity not temporary, artificial immunity from an injection.
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      • Anamnestic response is not a myth. Neither is the administration of vaccines. Nothing I stated warranted an accusation of being a lemming. This is simple biology. Herd immunity is demonstrated all the time in animals, hence the term. There are often distemper outbreaks in un vaccinated areas of the world. Once people start to vaccinate their pets, the prevalence and severity of the disease goes down. Similar to how human vaccines work. I noticed you mentioned homeopathic vaccines in a few of your responses…i was curious about them, which is what lead me here. I was hoping for some valid resources, but that seems to be the only post you haven’t answered of mine.

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  132. Hi Sarah, I live in Mozambique where polio and meningitis are real everyday threats. I understand not getting vaccinations in a country like the USA, but do these reasons apply for people living in third world countries? Can anyone shed some light on this subject for foreign readers, please?

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  133. I’m very uneducated about this topic.
    Aren’t certain vaccines requiered to be a part of the public school system?
    I’m in high school now and I remember in middle school everyone had to get their “7th Grade Shots” before you could even get your school schedule for the year (or quarter/semester).

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  134. Anyone remember Fen-Phen? I lost my aunt to this supposedly safe weight loss drug in 1996–after she’d already been to the doctor twice with chest pains and they told her it was nothing and sent her home. She went on a business trip and dies of a heart attack a few weeks later. I trust Big Pharma about as far as I can throw them.

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  135. Unfortunately I was following the advice of the medical community and had my children vaccinated. However, I have completely changed my opinion on this subject. No more vaccinations for my kids. Not that I want to diagree with your statement that vaccinated kids are the sickest. I agree with that statement. However, my kids are very healthy, despite the fact that they were vaccinated. I think the fact that I breast fed all of them, and we try to eat whole, nutrient dense, organic if possible, foods I have been able to fight off modern day “diseases” of childhood. It’s really a shame.

    When I was a child I probably had less than 20. Or I should say, there was about 20 on the recommended list. Now there is about 68 vaccinations for children up to the age 18. And now “they” are adding so many to the list its absolutely crazy into adulthood. I read somewhere that the increase in adults getting shingles, is because there are no more children getting naturally accuring chicken pox. Because the population has been vaccinated against chicken pox, adults are not getting their naturally accruing booster from being exposed to children. Makes you think twice that’s for sure.
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  136. I urge those with autistic children or other problems to look at a product called PCA-RX put out by Maxam labs. It might be called PC3 now, not sure. I am taking it myself for other problems. It is good for heavy metal detox too. It is very powerful and I have to take a little of it at a time or I have too severe a reaction. It’s a spray and parents have gotten wonderful results with it.

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  137. I have not allowed the hep b shot for either of my children in the hospital, but what is your, or anyones opinion on the vitamin k shot?

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  138. Hi Sarah,

    Interesting points you bring up and I both agree and disagree with them. The main one I would like to bring up is how you say the big pharma companies begin pumping out vaccinations to make more money. Yet if you think about it, and if they really are in it completly for the money, wouldn’t they begin to stop making vaccinations at all? Surely the extra cases of the disease, extra hospital and doctors visits and extra scripts and purchases of the same companies drugs to help the person overcome the illness would end up making them far more money than one vaccination per person would?

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    • I think vaccinations not only bring in more money to the big pharm companies but it is almost guarenteed money. How wise would it be to let a disease run rampant especially when you can’t guarentee that every baby will get that disease or that they will even be around long enough to make money off of if they do catch it? But it is almost a guarentee that the majority of new babies will get vaccinations and survive and it is not simply one vaccination per person, it is multiple vaccinations given multiple times throughout childhood. Also if the vaccinations create new health problems that require more medications then they profit from that as well.

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    • Vaccinations make the big pharma companies money because vaccinations make people sick. What do people do when they are sick? They go to their doctor to get drugs. Imagine a world full of healthy people? The drug industry would be out of business!!

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  139. Thanks for this. I have 7 children, the oldest 4 are fully immunized, the 5th a shot or two. The fourth was given his fifth dose of DTaP in July prior to starting kindergarten. In November, I received a phone call from public health saying that he was exposed to pertussis in his classroom. I took him to the pediatrician and had him tested. Positive. My two unvaccinated children (ages 3 and 2) did not get pertussis.

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  140. You people are crazy. The Autism-vaccination link has been discredited. You are clinging to bad science that has been disproved and retracted. Please, keep your polio/mumps/small pox-ridden children away from the rest of us. Are you listening to someone who has had years of medical training or someone with no training or qualifications? If you don’t trust your physician, get a different one, get a second opinion, get 10. It will be a long search before you find a board-certified Dr. that will tell you vaccinations are a bad idea.

    Good luck to your children. May their health hold out, no thanks to you.

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    • If you and your children have been vaccinated for polio/mumps/small pox, then how would me or my unvacinated children being around you potentially harm your health? Didn’t you get vaccinated to ensure you wouldn’t get sick from the disease if there was an outbreak? Think about it!!

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    • As stated many times previous to your opinion! Just because you have been vaccinated does not exempt you from contracting “said” diseases and becoming sick. This can happen all because you took those so called “preventive measures”. Alot of people wouldn’t have gotten sick at all had they not vaccinated themselves and their children. So what is the point in vaccinating? The immunity does not last, you will require booster shots to ensure effectiveness,(meanwhile a person who naturally fights any illness has the immunity for life! no boosters required!) who knows what ingredients they will have used to concoct this vaccination (since they are recalling vaccinations left and right). They are not even required to give you a full list of chemicals found in their vaccinations. Will it be harmful to you or your children? You don’t know, you just blindly follow that of the mainstream and get off lucky. If you happen to not be so lucky, the pharmaceutical companies are not even held responsible . They would never pay for the damage they can potentially cause, if proof is found a vaccination did harm to your person or worse your child!. In fact a live strain is active in your body and those of your children! So you are the polio/mumps/small pox-ridden culprits! Just let that marinate for awhile!

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  141. Oops, I forgot to include these. There are small segments of the U.S. that don’t have autism,

    The Age of Autism: ‘A pretty big secret’
    Read more: http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2005/12/07/The-Age-of-Autism-A-pretty-big-secret/UPI-68291133982531/#ixzz1leEvnat4

    The Age of Autism: Mercury and the Amish
    Read more: http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2005/05/20/The-Age-of-Autism-Mercury-and-the-Amish/UPI-19701116593191/#ixzz1leI2M51J

    VACCINATION — A MEDICAL ABOMINATION
    by Lawrence Wilson, MD http://drlwilson.com/Articles/VACCINES.08.htm

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  142. Interesting thread, I joined a forum years ago consisting of parents with autistic children. Parents should not be construed to be less knowledgeable concerning their children than doctors, they know how their child was before they were vaccinated & laboriously live the reality of their decision. Some links of interest:
    CDC officials discuss neurological damage from vaccines in secret meeting — Simpsonwood http://therefusers.com/refusers-newsroom/cdc-officials-discuss-neurological-damage-from-vaccines-in-secret-meeting-simpsonwood/
    Metals Linked To Alzheimer’s And Other Neurodegenerative Diseases: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/08/070813185007.htm
    Medical research is polluted by pharma-funded propaganda. Drug companies either do their own studies or hire captive Contract Research Organizations (CROs) to conduct studies, with the conclusion dictated before the study is started. Then they bribe prominent doctors to put their names on these bogus studies and articles that were ghost-written by pharmaceutical industry employees. http://therefusers.com/refusers-newsroom/challenging-medical-ghostwriting-in-us-courts-plos-medicine/
    These 2 messages are from the group I mentioned I found years ago, I don’t know if non-members can see it but I’ll post it in case you can. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/no-forced-vaccination/message/18610
    Baby Dies After 9 Vaccines in One Day. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/no-forced-vaccination/message/18597
    Lest you think the medical establishment has your best health in mind now or in the past you may find this an interesting read. It deals with a toxic metal poisoning in the 1800 – 1900′s and the attitude of SOME physicians.
    Beautiful Black Poison
    http://www.westonaprice.org/environmental-toxins/beatiful-black-poison
    “According to Boyd Haley, a researcher at the University of Kentucky, the mercury in thimerosal acts as an enzyme inhibitor that can negatively affect the immune system’s ability to deal with toxins introduced in the body, such as the various diseases in the vaccines themselves.1 When combined with other heavy metals present in vaccines, the toxic effect of the metals is intensified, the same way it is enhanced after exposure to multiple forms of mercury, such as methyl mercury (in fish), ethyl mercury (thimerosal), and mercury vapors (from air pollution and amalgam fillings). Mercury has a particularly synergistic relationship with aluminum. Mercury “eats away” at aluminum, potentially releasing more mercury into the environment or tissues. Consequently, scientists believe that the aluminum present in vaccines may exacerbate the toxicity of the thimerosal.2
    Many children experience external allergic reactions such as hives and eczema because of the repeated doses of thimerosal in the childhood vaccine schedule.3 Of far greater concern is the fact that the nervous system can become “intoxicated” or overwhelmed from exposure to mercury. Symptoms of mercury intoxication include memory loss, uncontrollable shaking and loss of balance–some of the same symptoms exhibited by children after receiving a vaccine (or two or three) containing thimerosal. Many of these symptoms do not appear until some time after the vaccine has been administered, which may explain some of the learning problems and mental disorders that could potentially be associated with vaccines. The fetus is also at risk of mercury intoxication if the mother receives thimerosal-containing injections while pregnant.”
    Hope this give you more ideas how to research some of the diseases we are afflicted with. You can also look up Dr. Sherry Tenpenny & Mary E. Tocco. Peace out!

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  143. Vaccinations are an extremely important thing to have done. People who are choosing not to vaccinate their children are contributing the overwhelming outbreaks of diseases that were suppressed for so long such as pertussis (whooping cough). Although I am a pharmacist, it does not mean I am part of “big pharma” who are trying to brainwash people to get vaccinated. I work at a hospital and genuinely care for people. Vaccinations were made for a reason and that was to prevent epidemics and mass amounts of death to benefit EVERYONE. Many of the reasons why children are getting autism and other diseases are due to the environment we live in today and from GENETICS. You may look at the ingredients in these vaccines and say they are toxic, etc, however what you don’t know is the quantity to hurt someone is way under the threshold. IT WOULD NOT BE MADE AND FDA APPROVED AND ALLOWED. You people really need to get your facts straight and become educated when it comes to the opinion that you have towards “white coats”. We work very hard in school and learn that vaccinations are safe (or else they would not be given) and to help the public understand that. Yes, there are some adverse effects that do occur to people, but that is only a small majority of the population that is affected, and the benefit clearly outweighs the risk. I take it as a huge insult the views you people have on pharmacists. We do not just count pills and call it a day; we take the time to research what we are giving to patient to promote safety and healthiness.

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    • Since you are proud of how you, as a pharmacist, take the time to do research, maybe you should look into this statement you typed in bold faced print regarding medicines being safe and trustworthy: “IT WOULD NOT BE MADE AND FDA APPROVED AND ALLOWED.”
      I actually laughed out loud. Ever hear of the word RECALL? If your trust is in the FDA, I feel sorry for you. Get YOUR facts straight and become educated before posting absurd comments.

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      • Bree, I hate to inform you but as a pharmacist you have been trained on how to make the drug industry nothing but $$. The FDA does NOT care about our health. They work together with the food and drug companies to make billions in profits!! I repeat, THE FDA DOES NOT CARE ABOUT OUR HEALTH!! I’m not calling you stupid, it’s just unfortunate that you are very misinformed about the truth. Remember the whooping cough outbreak in California not that long ago? 47% of the children who contracted the disease were vaccinated. Why would I give my child a vaccination and have to watch the suffer the dreadful side effects of it? I suggest you quit believing in the FDA, get YOUR facts straight and do some actual research on the subject before coming on here and telling everyone they are crazy for not believing in vaccinations.

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  144. I’m so torn on this. My son is almost 9-months-old (and therefore due for his 9 month shots…). We just moved and are in the process of finding a new pediatrician, so we have the opportunity to start over. He has had all of his vaccines up to this point, but I’m considering cutting them off here. Do you know of any negative effects off getting vaccines but not the boosters? Also, any tips on finding a pediatrician who will support a decision to not vaccinate? Is there a directory or anything? I know that when we were interviewing pediatricians when I wad pregnant, they told us that if we refused vaccinations, they would refuse us as patients.

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  145. I have to say I finally read through all your comments and there were some great points made on BOTH sides. I would just like you to build off of some stronger premises to create your conclusions. However, I believe in freedom of expression and I will defend your right to expression your opinion – not matter how many holes I see in it.

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  146. I like your frank, honest assessment. My boyfriend always reminds me that they call it ‘practicing medicine’ for a reason. I am thouroughly unconvinced that a doc that just prescribes a med for a symptom actually knows what they are doing. Most of them are probably downing energy drinks and coffee and wondering why they are so tired. Go ahead, be rude Sarah. This country needs tough love. People just don’t want to face the truth that companies with money are squashing modern science because they can. I don’t have children yet, but I do not look forward to having the vaccination debate. Looks like I need to start looking for a pediatrician who knows the truth now…. I don’t want my future kids on formula, drugs or a diet recommended by the FDA. This is starting to feel like a communist society more and more everyday.
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  147. Many are complaining that Sarah is “one-sided,”…. well, it IS her blog… and these are HER beliefs… If you went to a pro-vax article, those who don’t vax would be ridiculed! Shame on everyone for using “fear” to vaccinate or not! What is best for YOUR child is for you to do the research. Far too many parents out there vaccinate “because everyone else is doing it.”

    That’s what I would have done… except for some reason I began researching articles about those against vaccines and I chose to side with them! And Sarah is right, I am 28– and when I was younger it was definitely less than 10 mandatory shots– I think half that… now today, 60 some?! It is a BIG deal putting poison into a child’s bloodstream, direclty!…It is a BIG deal using human embryos (specific genectic makeup) into another human not yet grown. Think about your day old baby getting a Hep B shot… Hep B?! It’s to protect those that have mother’s with Hep B, Drug users, and the sexually active…. my newborn, no thank you! And to think that by the time my child may need the vaccine, the immunity is gone. Vacc Immunity isn’t 100% nor is it forever.

    If you want to vaccinate, fine. I choose not too, fine. I chose to listen to minorities in the field, like Dr. M. Einstein (sarah has noted him). And unfortunately for us, there aren’t as many of us– but we are here and we believe what we do. And if you are concerened about vaccs, there are doctors (Dr. Sears, right?), who suggests shots at a different cycle. It makes my heart sick for the 1/ 100 children who are diagnosed with Autism. The growing cases of asthma/ adhd/ allergies… And it’s not just children… adults have complications after vaccs, too. Not every injury caused by vaccs is reported, did anyone think of that?

    What we need is more studies. What we need is honest, truthful information.

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  148. Hi Sarah. I wish I would have had your blog before I gave birth to my son. He’s 8 months now and has a doctors appointment in a month. He’s been vaccinated up until now but now that I’ve read your blog And talked to some people I don’t want to go through with any more vaccinations. Is this going to be a problem since he’s had some vaccinations or can I stop at any time? Do I need to prepare myself for chaos from the pediatrician? Do you have any helpful advice? Do I need to go in there prepared with information? I’m a little nervous.

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  149. I am pro vaccinate all the way, however, I don’t ever spread around all the reasons you should vaccinate, I feel it is your choice and I have no right to try to convince you otherwise.

    I live in an Amish community where they have not vaccinated in their families for generations. These families have children with health/learning issues like everyone else, such as leukemia, down syndrome, lupus, cancers, Alzheimer, etc.

    I have never seen a difference in the behavior or health of a family who vaccinates compared to a family that doesn’t and I know plenty of both.

    Behavior and health issues spawn from poor diets. Our children, who have received all of their vaccines their entire lives, are all well mannered, healthy children. We have 7 children. Two of them have 1 allergy each, even though we live in the worst area for allergies in the country. None of them have ever been sick beyond a common cold/flu about once a year or so. None of them have learning disabilities or any symptoms similar to these. I believe the reason is because our children eat healthy. We eat our own or buy all fresh/ non-hormone added meat, eggs, milk, fruit, and vegetables. We limit the children to only one “unhealthy” snack per day, a small piece of candy, a few small store bought cookies, popcorn, etc. They only drink filtered water, 100% juice, tea, and raw cow’s milk. NO SODA, NO SPORTS DRINKS, ETC.

    It sounds like you will say whatever you think will freak people out the most, even when exaggerating the facts, just to get them to stop vaccinating. As for the drug companies, OK, they are not credible when making depression/heart/high blood pressure medications, but these are meds that you are exposed to for long periods of time. A vaccine is only one to a few doses broken up over time. As for exposure to metals, and all of the other ingredients you mentioned, why not share the real facts, like how there’s more aluminum in one soda can eroding into it’s content than in hundreds of vaccines. And how your vehicle’s exhaust gives out many of the toxins that you mention. And that there are MSG’s in almost every store bought food/drink including sprayed on “fresh” fruit and vegetables to add to their shelf life. When labelled, MSG’s can be disguised as natural flavor. These are just a few off the top of my head just to prove that unless you are completely organic, and I don’t mean shopping at Whole Foods or similar, then you have no grounds for saying that everything you listed is grounds for someone to not vaccinate. They will get exposure to all of these chemicals through their foods, water supply, air, and health and beauty products, like toothpaste and detergents.

    As for what you said about vaccines that are now deemed unsafe and taken off the market, Johnson and Johnson makes baby shampoo with cancer causing agents in it. Fluoride is in water and all of your store bought foods including fruits and veggies and fluoride is poison.

    I will add that autism is a huge issue in many countries, even the ones that have NO ACCESS to vaccines. This is how they proved that vaccines were not the cause for autism.

    Pollution, poor diet, daily exposing your skin to anti-aging regimens, smoking while pregnant, drinking while pregnant, doing drugs while pregnant, being exposed to any of these things while pregnant, using tylenol, ibuprophin, fluoride, or any of the other over the counter supposedly safe medicines are all things that our society exposes themselves to on a daily basis and you think it’s necessary to go to this extreme when trying to convince people to stop vaccinating.

    Think of the outbreaks of little babies and children suffering and dying with cases of small pox, polio, scarlet fever, whooping cough, etc that our ancestors had to deal with before vaccines. Go find an early American cemetery and you will find hundreds of infants and young children on the head stones. Most of them didn’t survive those outbreaks. Vaccines eradicated most pandemic diseases. The benefit of a vaccine far out ways the risk.

    I know that in 10 years I wouldn’t want to be part of a group that didn’t vaccinate, I don’t want to watch my children slowly, painfully die with something I could have vaccinated for.

    Now, I have a question for you. If you were dying of cancer and the only way you could live was to go through Chemo therapy or radiation, what would you do; roll over and die or poison yourself to live???

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  150. Hi Sarah, I know this post is old and I’ve tried my best to read through all the comments thoroughly to find the answer to my question but I don’t see it and I’m really hoping you’ll respond. Long, horrible, nightmare of a story but in short, my 2 year old was double vaccinated. Our new peds office had not updated her records before her appt and she received all 6 scheduled vaccinations in one go for a second time! I was beyond furious when I found out. I have three children, oldest 2 vaxed and will not vax again. Our newest is 5 weeks (natural birth at a birth center!). You said, “There are holistic therapies that can detox a child from the vaccine’s poison, but the damage that is done can never be 100% repaired.” What can I do for my sweet girl to help rid her of the poisons I let them put in her twice. I feel sick about it. She is a very healthy, robust little girl, not sick often and our whole family is greatly benefiting from our newly adopted Real Food mentality. I need to let this guily go and any info you could pass on would be appreciated. Thanks!

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    • I hope you find your answer. There is a wealth of knowledge out there for detosing for various things. I would start with a reputable homeopath and get a book about it and start googling, not that everything you read online is reputable, but it gives you a starting point of what to look into. God bless you on your journey. And I know that guilt, it will eat you alive. You meant no harm, and not one parent is perfect, also it isn’t your fault she was double dosed. You must forgive yourself, and focus all that energy on positive helps and changes for your family. I am sure you’re a wonderful Mommy, but looking back with regret can destroy your ability to move forward. Learn from the past, but make sure you forgive yourself Mom, you’re human too!

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  151. Well, isn’t this a heated blog… It always is. Well, for what it’s worth, here is my two cents…

    I have three kids, two of which were vaccinated fully, and one was not. My two that were vaccinated fully, they both have autism, my oldest son had a cancerous brain tumor and almost died in 2001. He was only 5 at the time. He still has his tumor but it has not grown since 2001.

    My middle child was given a round of vaccines in 2003 and suffered seizures, so from then he was no longer required to be given vaccines. For many years after his vaccines he sickly, diagnosed with seizures, autism, and ADHD. He finally recovered and “miraculously” is no longer considered autistic, ADHD and is very healthy now. But it took about 10 years for him to recover from his vaccines. The doctors cannot explain why he just got over his autism and ADHD, and say it must have been a misdiagnosis. But we saw Developmental Ped., psychiatrist and psychologist, plus many therapists, and all agreed on the autism diagnosis and ADHD at the time. I cannot say we have had a horrible experience with our Dr.s, as a matter of fact we have a great relationship with them and they are very open to the idea vaccines may have caused my three children their issues. We have even been considered for study in this area. In Dec. we see his nuerologist one more time, and if no seizures he will be deemed seizure free and will no longer need his seizure med.

    While I cannot say with 100% vaccines caused this, it sure points in the direction that vaccines were the cause. Even our doctors agree. With all the severe issues my kids have had they NEVER push vaccines for my kids, it is always a “Do you want to”. We have even had letters sent to the PS by our Dr.s excusing them from the vaccines, so we didn’t get hasseled by the schools. Sorry this is so long, but this is our story. We know seizures were caused by the vaccines, it had to be reported too. As far as my other children, well no more vaccines since my one son had his reaction to them and they are doing better but not as well as my middle child who received the fewest. We as a family have suffered, and like I said, it sure seems the vaccines are to blame for most of it.

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    • I didn’t realize this original post was this old, oops. I would like to add that I also blame all the bad additives in our food for the issues we see in children.

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  153. Hi Sarah,
    Great post. It’s always nice to see blogs/posts that support people educating themselves about what is or is not going into their body. I am a nurse and work in a hospital setting, but don’t agree with half of the practices I see. I try to be a voice that encourages patients to think before they agree to something and consent to it. Also, I work in labor and delivery and love a natural birth! While I do agree with your view point on vaccines I did want to mention that the vaccines don’t go into your bloodstream so to speak (or into the vein). They should go into the muscle (which I know it eventually leads to getting absorbed and perhaps that’s what you meant by “blood”). Also, more education for those that are reading this and choose to vaccinate themselves or their children. Please make sure that when the healthcare provider puts the needle into your arm that they ASPERATE before they inject it into your arm! That is the only way to know the vaccine is not going directly into your bloodstream/vein/artery. I have seen people give vaccines without asperating first, very UNSAFE! When all else fails just say, “please remember to asperate before you inject” if you are vaccinating.

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  154. One more anecdotal story. Nothing fascinating or dramatic though. I have 7 children. #1 was vax’d until age 2, which is when I learned I can refuse. None of the others were. Of the 7, the oldest is the only one who has asthma. She also had the worst struggle with eczema, and is sick more often. When pertussis (whooping cough) hit, she got it right along with the unvax’d ones, same severity. My then-6-week-old baby (who was somewhere around 12-15 weeks by the time it was over) never got it. My own opinion is that she was protected by being exclusively nursed, which I ramped up during everyone’s sickness to give her all I could of the antibodies I was producing as a result of the exposure that came with caring for the sick ones. With chicken pox, we tried *multiple* times to catch it, I eventually quit trying because I figured they’ll get it if they need to. When some eventually did, even though some of the siblings sleep together and we practiced NO quarantining of the sick ones, only half of the children got it. The oldest got it twice.
    I am sad at all the name-calling and insulting that has gone on in this thread, I realize (really, I do!) how frustrating this topic can be, but no one is ever convinced using those tactics.
    I definitely regret having the oldest vax’d, and do not regret not having the younger ones vax’d. Even in the uglies of pertussis, when I didn’t KNOW that no one would die, when someone asked me “don’t you wish you had spared them of this and gotten a little poke?” I still had no regrets.

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  155. Just to say, I have 2 sisters who both have 3 children, I hve one child. All of us got vaccinated with vaccines that are obligatory in Croatia, including shots for tetanus, MPR, hemophilius influenze, polio and so on. I also had my son vaccinetet with PREVENAR (streptoccocus pneaumonie) and we are all healthy. No mental, autoimune or other diseases. Only occasional common cold or running nose. And I have a lot of similar examples around me. I’m not saying all vaccines are good and nessesary, but please think again, if there were no vaccines we would be still dying from black plaque, but thanks to the vaccine the disease is eradicated!!!

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  156. Really? Ive not seen so many medical experts on one board ever. All vaccines are bad? Skip your kids polio vaccine so you can watch them die a slow painfull death. There is a LOT of misinformation on this board. Australia and the flu vaccine. It was never tested or approved for kids under 5. That was a government decision. A bad one. Drug companies are pure evil? Cmon are you telling my I can tell my mother to stop taking her insulin? Shes just a victim of greed? Too much. Gamma Globulin for tetnus? GG will help boost the immune system against a viral or bacterial bourne illness but doesnt nothing against a spore bourne illness like tetnus..

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    • Tetanus immunoglobulin silly. (see below)
      http://www.bgipharma.com/documentos/Tetanus%20Gamma%20eng.pdf

      And no your grandma shouldn’t stop her insulin (even though type 2 diabetes is reversable), but if she has type 2 diabetes, it is completely a disease of lifestyle and modern-day living. The food industry we trust to feed us cares little about our health, and the health-industry (drugs) we trust to make us well cares little about our food!
      HUGE PROBLEM. If you take a step back and look at the picture it is impossible to not realize that the MAJORITY of the problems that we rely on the drug industry for are OUR FAULT. Individuals and our culture as a whole for letting this happen. It all goes back to what we put in our bodies.

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  157. Just to add to my comment above. Another reason why my husband not keen not to vaccinate: he looks at himself and his own siblings and younger family members, they were all vaccinated and all are healthy and developed well. So in his mind he feels vaccines have not affected them badly.

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  158. I’ve been doing a lot of reading from various sources and I now do feel on the side of no vaccines and do not want to vaccinate my children any more. My first had all her vaccines up to age 18 months. My 2nd just had one. My problem is family pear pressure. Even my husband, is not on top of this topic. He is supportive but reluctant to do any reading so is undecided and would probably veer towards vaccinating but delaying. He asked me is there another country that has better vaccination schedules. Do you know of countries that have the least and most delayed vaccination schedule or evenly possibly non at all (wishful thinking!)? At least this way we could show to family members that not all governments are in agreement on this issue. I hope you can help! Many thanks.

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  159. I read quite a bit on both sides of this. I look for “the catch”, the ” oh reallllllllly” parts of articles on both sides of this issue.

    First of all, this idea that vaccinated kids are the most sickly kids this writer knows…well we now have a whooping cough epidemic that didnt’ exist before people stopped getting immunized for that. Measles is now back and being caught and killing people…and take a look in wikipedia on what life was like before the polio vaccine. People don’t have a clue what they are talking about. Before vaccines the infant mortality rate was horrible. Look on Youtube at at the Penn and Teller show on vaccines. I think people have the right to go either path, and everyone should respect that decision, but we vaccinate in our household and am glad for it.

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    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
      Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist August 16, 2011 at 12:28 am

      Please take a look at my post “Why Vaccines are Scientific Fraud”. Vaccines didn’t save us from polio or any other epidemic INCLUDING smallpox. A nonbiased objective analysis of graphs on the subject proves this point without a doubt. Check out the charts gleaned from government death records.

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  160. My 2 cents- I used to be provax. Until my child was vaccine injured. I think some ppl here have misunderstood our anger towards the establishment to be directed at them. Have some understanding & common sense. What does a passionate caring loving protective mom get out of spreading their opinion? Nothing. Look at where the fighting stance of a particular group comes from. Ours? Not bc were getting rich promoting our views. Not fighting to protect our assets or lavish lifestyle. Not trying to keep job security. Not parroting the same ‘ol lines bc we cant break a political promise we made in past.
    The prob is ppl r not doing the research for themselves until they “HAVE TO” & in most cases its too late-damage is done. But we do whatever it takes to help our babies. We become warrior moms. And when we become enlightened w the truth we become furious! Never underestimate the power of a warrior mom. We WILL BE THE ONES TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE!
    Think about this: If someone said to u jump in that pool, its fine its only 5ft, u will not drown. So u take their word, jump in w/out concern but realize once youve jumped that its really 9ft & u r drowning & need to be rescued by a lifeguard. What will happen when u get out & dry off? What will u say to the person that said it was only 5ft? Wouldnt u have a few choice words for them, that is if u didnt knock them out first? Now imagine the person who didnt tell u the truth was someone u trusted, like say A DOCTOR!!” Now imagine this happens to your child?!?! The anger increases tenfold!
    All this blog & others like it r tryin to do is open some eyes that are closed bc they think they r supposed to be closed. Our msg’s r not mean, evil, idiotic or full of fear. They simply come from mother instinct, intuition& love. And one day it will prevail!

    If theres only 2 things a parent indicisive about vaccines has time to read, these are the two links to click on. Both quite lengthy but extremely eye opening. For the sake of your child, pls investigate before u vaccinate.
    http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/package_inserts.htm -pkg inserts every parent SHOULD read. U read the ingredients on your child’s food pkg, why not what is injected in their blood. (but then again, those that blindly vaccinate their kids prob dont read whats in their food)

    http://fb.me/Yi9BSgDN -very revealing interview w a retired vaccine worker. This person shares alot of info, some of it shocking even to those already anti-vax.

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  161. Scheleta Phillips July 26, 2011 at 11:30 pm

    Great website!!!! Thank you!!! I have a question, I have 6 children and my husband and I decided to not vaccinate any of our children any further, however my 13 yr old, 11 yr old, & 9 yr old have had ALL there shots…my 5 & 4 yr olds…have had a handful…and my 3 yr old…probably just his newborns vaccines…but I feel SO horribly guilty about especially my 3 older boys who have them all….are there ANY ways to detox the vaccines out of there bodies? My 13 yr old, is pretty healthy, my 11 yr old has Petit Mal seizures (which we are seeing a Holisitc Practitioner and he has decreased my sons seizures DRAMATICALLY just by chaning his diet and thru chiropracting….NOT medications.) and my 9 yr old is “borderline ADHD”…my 3 littles ones are healthy…thankfully. But I just wanted to know if there was ANY way to reverse the vaccines? Feeling like a HORRIBLE mama here…and disgusted at the deception!!!

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  162. “If the vaccines above have had serious problems, the others probably do too as vaccine manufacturers follow the same basic formula when coming up with each new shot.”

    This is a huge logical fallacy. No matter what other research you have done, you cannot assume such a thing. What if I say some mothers have serious problems, are bad to their kids, thus other mothers are probably bad? All mothers (barring adoptive) are made following the same basic formula: sex. Doesn’t that mean, following your logic, that all mothers are bad? A few bad vaccines does not mean the whole system is bad.

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    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
      Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist July 20, 2011 at 1:22 pm

      Since all vaccines are manufactured essentially the same way, it is a highly logical argument.

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  163. I actually do agree that vaccinations are up to each parent, and I am terriied of some of the ingredients in them.
    However, where you lose me is in the lack of facts. All you have to do is Google some of the stuff you’re saying to find it’s not all true. Japan has mandatory vaccinations beginning at 3 months. Here is their vaccination schedule: http://idsc.nih.go.jp/vaccine/dschedule/Imm11EN.pdf
    My sister in law is Japanese and when I asked her, she said it has never been like that.
    Also in the “other countries” part, I lived in Sweden when my child was born. I was afraid to vaccinate and when speaking to my child’s nurse, I was given statistics and Sweden, who is near the bottom of the infant mortality rate worldwide, is just over 99% vaccinated. 99% is a lot for a country with such a low infant mortality rate. They’re even ahead of Japan in infant mortality.
    I really wish an article like this could be written without stretching the truth or inaccurate information. It creates the ability to debunk the idea that vaccination isn’t a good idea. Now, obviously, I am a mother and have neither the time nor the desire to fact check your entire article, but the parts I found suspicious, were indeed wrong. I mean absolutely no offense, just pointing out that sometimes being over-zealous causes us to lose credibility. And it’s a real shame in this case.

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  164. Did you ever stop to think for a minute that maybe, JUST MAYBE!!!, someone can research something just as much as you do (from both sides, even!) and come to a different conculsion than yours? And do you think it’s really necessary to call/imply that people who disagree with you are brainwashed/following blindly/stupid?

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  165. I have a kid damaged from both the MMR and the Dtap vaccines, and I am just now recovering 8 years after a tetanus vaccine injury that left me mentally, physically and emotionally drained… I don’t think that it is worth it to bypass nature’s immune system… I don’t believe in vaccinating any longer and all of my kids now have medical exemptions, but my daughter with the damage will deal with it for a lifetime, and my other children have suffered emotionally, physically, financially and so many other ways because of it… they have all missed opportunities we could have afforded financially and time wise because of the time and money recovering our daughter has taken. Statistically, I don’t believe that it is worth risking TAKING a vaccine any longer IF you are eating right, getting exercise and supporting a healthy immune system.

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  166. meh, we all are going to die at some point. I’d like to not die from something I could have prevented. I mean, sure we have an immune system, but we weren’t born super humans! I’m not a Misophobic in anyway, but I would like to safeguard my kids from eminent danger.
    I mean, what are you going to say to someone that had polio as a child? Oh, yeah I decided I would risk my health so I could be like you! Aren’t you glad? Yeah, they aren’t going to buy any of that b.s. (And yeah, I actually know someone who had polio as a kid, and I think he is all for vaccinations.)
    Oh yeah, thanks for calling me unhealthy for being vaccinated. I don’t know what your idea of good health is, but I think it’s when your body functions properly. And currently, my body is doing quite well.

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    • Sarah, TheHealthyHomeEconomist

      Think of how well you’d be doing if you weren’t vaxed? Feeling well is all a matter of perspective. I know plenty of folks who think they feel just fine eating junk all day long but when they stopped they couldn’t believe how much better they felt.

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      • but you can’t make that comment, you have one bit of information to handle that she gave you and that is that her body is fine and that’s all you can assume, if she had an allergic reaction to the vaccine she would know about it.

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  167. Thank you Sarah for responding. I’m sure your right. I have heard of things called tee shirt swaps etc… but I have a hard time knowingly exposing them in this way. Something about this just doesn’t seem right.

    Yes we are eating as best as our budget can afford. We have a good place to purchase all of our meats, a large garden, top quality raw cows milk, kefir….there is more, but I spare you “the list.” ;) At any rate I appreciate your opinion on the subject.

    Thank you for the time you put into your blog helping others.
    Linda

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  168. Hello,
    I have been reading your blog and am GREATLY appreciating it!!

    I have a 11 year old daughter who has not had chicken pox yet. (I also have three younger daughters 9, 5, and 3.) It concerns me that they have not had this yet. My older boys both had chicken pox, but my girls can’t seem to “find it.” …..lol. Any ideas? Should I even be concerned?

    (Hope you don’t mind my commenting on an old post.)

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    • Sarah, TheHealthyHomeEconomist

      Hi Linda, my kids haven’t had chicken pox yet either and I wish they would get it. I wouldn’t be concerned though. If they are not immunized, they will catch what they need to catch to keep their immunity strong. Nature has a way of dealing with these things so if they are healthy and eating good quality nutrient dense foods, they should be fine. There is little need to worry. There is always homeopathic nosodes for pretty much all infectious diseases you can name which you can use in an emergency.

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  169. Angela, I find what you said to be a very reasonable approach to vaccinations. It IS a a decion that should be left to the parents, end of story. I take issue with articles that come across as so one sided, as if there is only one choice. I did my research. In fact, I would bet I did more than some of the parents who choose not to vaccinate because they’ve “heard” bad things.

    As for knowing the status of each child in the school, I do have a bit of an in (I work in the school district and have registered many of them myself). By pointing that out, I was only trying to say that there are two sides to the healthy kids coin.

    My true feeling is that some kids can’t handle vaccinations. Something about their genetic makeup leaves them too vulnerable. And in a perfect world, the medical world would be working on researching that and customizing out healthcare based on our bodies and our needs. But this is the best we have right now and I felt that with our family histories (no major illness, no history of asthma, long lives, etc.) the risk to my kids was minimal. How many people actually research their family history before having a child? Not many that I know of. But what do you think influences your babies chances of haveing a healthy start more than that?

    I think the issue isn’t the big, bad medical corporations or the doctors. I think it comes down to uninformed parents. I also think that articles like this lead many people in the wrong direction. Instead of blindly listening to their doctor, now they are blindly listening to a different group. If I could reach out to every parent, I would urge them to question everything, but to also make decisons on their own. It’s YOUR child, it’s YOUR responsibility.

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  170. @Beth — No non-vaxer is trying to pass laws that make vaccinations illegal. You’ve made your choice and we can live with that. The problem is that so many pro-vaxers DO want to make it illegal not to vax. Parents are the final authority on this decision, not government. Period.

    I find it highly doubtful that you actually know the vaccination status of every child in your childrens’ classes. And if your kids’ health is robust, you needn’t worry about the “little one in the corner looking sickly.” No one has suggested that every child who is vaccinated is made ill from them. Some kids do seem to handle the onslaught well. Some suffer anything from mild fever to vaccine-induced encephalopathy to death. It’s just a gamble, and not one that every parent is willing to take.

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  171. I vaccinated my children…so sue me. I researched, read articles and studies, talked to many, many doctors, friends, family, and spent hours honestly weighing the options. And I still decided to do the full course of vaccinations. The only shot my 3 children don’t get is the flu shot. My kids are all very healthy. I get compliments on their health from doctors and dentists. We get colds (sniffles) that last 1-2 days. We had one round of the stomach flu last year. Between the three of them, they’ve had 2 ear infections (my oldest and my youngest). That’s it. No asthma, no chronic illnesses.

    My kids attend three different schools (one for daycare, one for preschool, one for Kindergarten). In each pool of children, I find the little one in the corner looking sickly 4 out of 5 days of the week is usually the unvaccinated one. The majority if kids I see are vaccinated and healthy!

    In my daughter’s daycare, one little girl whose mother proudly declared to be unvaccinated, was asked to leave the daycare for a month after coming in with one illness after another for months on end.

    Personal experiences change for each person. That’s why they are personal. I find your articles overall demeaning to anyone who doesn’t agree with you. I think a lot of parents might be more open to research and your “facts” if they felt they had the right to disagree with you.

    I did my research and I still disagree. So what does that make me? Stupid? Gullible? I read the wrong articles? I talked to the wrong people? Or just a flat-out bad parent?

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    • I did my research as well when making the decision not to continue vaccinating my son. I kept a very open mind. My son doesn’t become sick the way I see other children do (I don’t know if the other children are vaccinated or not) and he doesn’t miss school. He’s very healthy as well. However there are many different factors to keeping a healthy child, whether your child is vaccinated or not, there is also nutrition, their environment, and so forth. I don’t think its right to judge that oh this child is sick cause he’s not vaccinated or this child is sick cause he is vaccinated. It’s an individual choice. To each their own. To me in this day and age I don’t feel that it is necessary for my child to be injected with the vaccines.

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    • I have mixed feelings, and even though I have an opinion, my comment is very neutral! (read the whole thing to understand what I mean) – Sorry I don’t have any of my sources at the time, but please be understanding.

      I “want” to be “for” them… I work with young children everyday and have access to their medical information. I know there are MANY other facotrs to a child’s (or any person’s) health, but from my studies, the unvaccinated children ARE always much sicker than the vaccinated kids. We (or should I say “I”) keep track, and my personal records are that 73% of the time, the unvaccinated chilren (in my daycare) are more likely to get sick! That’s a HUGE number! I’m not sure (so don’t quote me on this) but I guess it’s because their little, and fragile bodies are too busy becoming naturally immune (sick) to the diseases. (Btw, parents at my daycare signed consent form so that I could do this study through out the past 2 years for my Senior Project in high school). Yet, even dispite these “staggering” statistics, I am still against them….

      My wonderfully-amazing boyfriend, just so happens to be Deaf (not that it is a bad thing, like most hearing people think – he is very proud of his Deafness, the Deaf culture, his language, the amazing community he is apart of, and so fourth)… but he became Deaf through a vaccination as a child at 18 months old (which got me thinking more about the immediate side effects of vaccines – and lead me to my research)… If that doesn’t get you thinking, read on… my sister lost her son (my first and only nephew) at just 4 months old to the pertusis vaccine (DTaP) almost 2 years ago. This was the most devastating thing my sister and our family has ever expirenced and I don’t think anyone else should ever have to feel that way (RIP Baby Ryan – Forever in our hearts).

      So while your kid might get sick a little more, are the risks of vaccines worth it?… Especially when you know it is still not 100% effective? Then again, these two random incidents that I just mentioned seem a little too coincidental to both be in my life… most people don’t ever encounter these happenings. I do know that it is a true fact that since the vaccines have been put out, many devastating diseases have slowed significantly or even stopped significantly, and someone else commented earlier, it probably IS the fact that everyone around the unvaccinated peaople are vaccinated, which keeps them from getting sick too. And unless everyone gives in, who is entitled to be the “special one” who just stays healthy because everyone else around them took the risk and they didn’t (even though my senior project statistics don’t prove that). How do we choose?

      While I could go on all day about the bennefits and risks of both options, I think everyone is entitled to their opinion and it is a VERY personal choice, there is no “right” or “wrong” decision in my book. Parents make TONS of tough decisions for their children, which could go in either direction. We all just want what’s best, no one is perfect and no one is God. However personally I will not be vaccinating my children (when I have them one day) because of my personal expirences (which to you is just a story, but for me is real life). Maybe one day I will change my decision, maybe science will advance by the time I have children and there will be more, and better information out there. Maybe there will be more options than just yes or no. But as for now I stand firm on my decision. We all must pray for our children!

      Good luck to all of you out there struggling with this tough decision!

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  172. This was just one reason (of many) why my three children have never been vaccinated. Thanks for the post, Sarah! I’m enjoying you’re blog; keep up the good work.

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  173. How long does artificial immunity really last? I received all the scheduled MMR shots as a child. In my mid-twenties, as part of routine pregnancy blood work, it was discovered that I was NOT immune to these illnesses. Not immune to measles, mumps, or rubella in early adulthood after having had all my shots!

    It was recommended that I get a booster shot after my baby was born since contracting one of these during a subsequent pregnancy would be disastrous for the unborn child. I consented to have the MMR booster. Eighteen months later, newly pregnant, another round of routine blood work… STILL NOT IMMUNE.

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    • Oh my God!!! It sounds like they are lying as far as immunity is concerned! If you are not immune, vaccines are nothing else but saline suspensions!!!!
      I had measles, mumps, rubella, chicken pox under age 6!
      Ever since , I haven’t been ill with anything, other than a few minor colds in really cold winters. Life long immunity can only be achieved contracting the desease. I had a titer test in 2004 and I was immune to everything, several times over the limit!!!!
      I am becoming more and more convinced that people who do not go for any sort of check ups, if they are otherwise healthy and doing good,in the medium and long run will enjoy better health! Because they definitely won’t be on all sorts of meds, and their bloodstream will be free from toxins.
      Medical science had it’s golden age in XIX. century early XX> century, understanding about hygene /what is not strictly medical/ was crucial in having longer lifespan! Surgeries, anesteziology, pain killing, antibiotics are good, no doubt… but everything with MODERATION! Now pain killers are becoming Killers, surgeries are done for many unnecessary purposes, we abuse antibiotics, and abuse vaccines…. so such as so many other great initiatives, a principle what used to be beneficial and productive is turning into it’s own opposite! Nowdays western allopatic medicene is close to 50-50, it does not do more good than harm….. but costs hell a lot of money for the whole society to run the business!!!

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  174. I stopped vaccinating my children when they were four and five years old. My youngest daughte,r now 29, is very pro-vaccine. Her feeling is that if you don’t vaccinate you are depending on others to do so to protect your child.

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    • I think for the majority of us, it has nothing to do with relying on the vaccinated community to protect us and our children from getting these diseases. Rather, we feel the risk of getting the disease is a far better risk to take than the risk of lifelong chronic illness, or, worse, the chance that our children will be one of the ones who suffer severe vaccine injury. As a non-vaxxing parent, I fully understand that my children are potentially at risk for contracting any one of these diseases (as, apparently, are any other children, vaxxed or non-vaxxed), and I am willing to accept responsibility for that. It’s the lesser of two evils for our family. Every family has to make this choice–which risk is the lesser of two evils for them? And the answer may or may not be the same for you as it is for me. And I’m okay with that; I just wish YOU would be okay with that, too.

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  175. Hello. My son is now 10 yrs. old. He is partially vaccinated. His last shot was when he was about 2 1/2 yrs. old. I started researching pros and cons about vaccinations keeping an open mind and decided to no longer vaccinate my child for a lot of reasons and the fact that the doctor kept on telling me to give my baby Tylenol afterwards which I don’t agree with. It really woke me up when I got a letter asking me if I would like my child to try the new vaccination for chicken pox that just came out. Chicken pox…I had chicken pox when I was a child and I dealt with it just fine and about a year later my son got chicken pox and turned out just fine. I was just thinking that our immune system needs to be able to fight something on its own in order to make it stronger. I had no problems with our family doctor or with the public school that he attends. I just needed to fill out a form and mail it in to the health department. Now my only concern is the tetanus shot? I don’t know enough information about it or if it’s really necessary.

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  176. Sarah,
    So you DO NOT recommend any vaccines at all? My baby is 2 months old and I’m still devating on what vaccines I should and should not give him. He has only been given one vaccine since he was born (Hepatitis B). What would happen if he is exposed to other children, what about chicken pox? ect…

    ~HHE Follower~

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    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

      Hi Aileen, that’s correct. None of my 3 children have ever had a shot. If my kids got chicken pox, I would be fine with that. I had it at 2 years old and I survived just fine. My kids have also all had pertussis. No big deal. Folks trying to avoid illness with all these gazillion shots (26 by age one! Is that not INSANE?) just results in chronic illness. Replace one demon with another. Brief acute illness that strengthens the body and develops natural immunity is infinitely preferable to chronic illness for one’s entire life as a result of being injected with toxins and poisons from vaccines (and then still possibly getting the acute illness anyway as vaccines work for only a few years!).
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  177. Hi there. I have a beautiful, nearly 5-month old daughter and vaccinations have always been a concern of mine. I am in the military community and am surrounded by many folks who just do what they’re told. So, when I declined newborn eye ointment, Hep-B vacc and Vit K shot at birth, I was looked down upon and made to feel like a terrible, uncaring mother. For some reason which I cannot explain, I have gone ahead and subjected my daughter to two rounds of “mandatory” vaccinations. My question to you is this: can I just stop having her vaccinated at this point? It seems such a silly question because I know it’s my child, my choice, but I feel like I’ll be scoffed and scolded, especially by military docs. Any advice would be much much appreciated as I’m clearly bothered by the subject. Thanks in advance! ~Jamie

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    • We are military as well. My son was vaccinated up to six months and then we just stopped, my daughter was never vaccinated. We have just told the doctors we don’t believe the benefits out weigh the risks and have never had a problem. We have been overseas for almost 10 years and haven’t had an issue with it. Hope this helps.

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  178. I’m not seeing much middle ground here. I’m seeing a lot of harsh words and judgment on both sides.

    My two oldest children were fully vaccinated. My youngest two were not because our beliefs evolved and we became more educated about vaccines. We eat healthy (home cooked, organic, well balanced, a lot of home grown, raw, etc etc) and are active. I haven’t really noticed any significant health differences in my kids.

    Imagine my guilt when my next to youngest child developed a strain of strep pneumonia that spread so fast and so quickly that she became septic and had other organs shut down. I know there are over 90 strains of strep pneumonia and not all are vaccinated against; yes, this was a strain that may have been prevented by a vaccine.

    I know whether to vaccinate or not is not a risk versus no risk choice. Given our beliefs but also having been faced with almost losing our child, we aren’t sure what to do. I don’t know if we will choose to selectively vaccinate now or not, and I’m not rushing to decide (I completely agree that vaccinating can be done at anytime, but it can’t be undone), but it’s a decision my family is now faced with again. It’s not as simple as vaccinating=good or vaccinating=bad.

    I know plenty of people personally who vaccinated their children and noticed reactions or regret their decision. Because I’m of the minority in my area regarding not vaccinating, I don’t know anyone else who has not vaccinated and also been faced with a life-threatening vaccine-preventable illness, but I know from first hand experience it is possible. It’s a heavy weight to carry. Has anyone else here been faced with a similar situation?

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    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

      Not vaccinating is not a guarantee of not getting illness. Neither is getting vaccinated a guarantee of no illness. Your daughter had a better chance to survive the strep by not being vaccinated than by being vaccinated. You have no reason to feel guilty. There are no guarantees in life but you have a much better shot at a healthy life with no shots poisoning your system and depressing your immune system. That being said my 3 kids all had pertussis – my daughter was only 15 months at the time. I don’t regret my decision not to vaccinate and would skip the shots again if given the choice.
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  179. Just one comment i want to say bout this. the part where she makes a mention about kids getting vaccines being alot less healthier than those not vaccinated. how they are very ill children or however she worded it. well i dont think this is true in all cases. my sister and i were vaccinated right on schedule and we are very healthy. very rarely get the flu and when we get a cold its gone within days. never been hospitalized except when i had my daughter. then i have a friend who does not vaccinate her kids and they are sick all the time with the flu or colds. i personally will not get the flu or h1n1 shot. even though it was pushed on me when i was pregnant.

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  180. renata rodrigues April 27, 2011 at 2:43 pm

    I just want remember the thalidomide’s tragedy…and i will leave Sylvia Plath’s poetry to you think about it.
    My little girl has 1 month and i don’t want to give that poison to her,but her father(my husband) desagree…so i know how it can be hard.

    Thalidomide

    “O half moon—

    Half-brain, luminosity—
    Negro, masked like a white,

    Your dark
    Amputations crawl and appall—

    Spidery, unsafe.
    What glove

    What leatheriness
    Has protected

    Me from that shadow—
    The indelible buds.

    Knuckles at shoulder-blades, the
    Faces that

    Shove into being, dragging
    The lopped

    Blood-caul of absences.
    All night I carpenter

    A space for the thing I am given,
    A love

    Of two wet eyes and a screech.
    White spit

    Of indifference!
    The dark fruits revolve and fall.

    The glass cracks across,
    The image

    Flees and aborts like dropped mercury.”

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  181. Please stop attacking eachother April 26, 2011 at 8:57 am

    I like this article and read all the comments. There are a lot of good points. But Sarah, the way you treat people whose opinion is different than yours is very unprofessional. If it is true that vaccines cause harm, then there is no reason for you to be nasty toward others. Present more evidence: real, hard evidence. Then let the intelligent people who read your material decide for themselves. After all, isn’t that what this article is supposed to be about?

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  182. Thank you so much for this fantastic article. Is there any research/anecdotal evidence about whether vaccinations in adulthood also cause allergy, ADHD etc. ADHD for example manifests at a particular age, what if you vaccinate after that developmental stage?

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    • anecdotal:

      My grandmother never had chicken pox.

      My mother never got chicken pox.

      I was exposed to chicken pox as a child more than 5 times (as in my mom placing me strategically in a room so that I would get them over with with the other kids from school) and never got chicken pox.

      at 18 years old, 2 weeks before my high school graduation, my doctor pushes the chicken pox vaccine and I agree.

      Guess who graduated with chicken pox and 102 degree temperature?

      Also, since then I have had bouts of shingles.

      I consider myself lucky, and am very grateful for my wellbeing because I have seen the videos and know that things could have been a lot worse.

      I am not a parent but I would not vaccinate my children. This is based on experiential evidence (not just the story above but a couple more very direct incidences of vax reactions), which seems to be the best evidence for me and my life in most cases.

      But I do not judge others for the choices they make. And I think that it really depends on a lot of factors, including health history of parents/lineage.

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  183. I have 2 kids and both of them are fully vaccinated. They are healthy, very happy, and very very smart kids! I have a friend who has 2 kids as well who are not vaccinated. Her kids are constantly sick(one who had an ear infection so bad the ear was bleeding)! All of my family members kids’ are vaccinated and are rarely sick. And no one has austism! I am very happy with my decision to vaccinate my kids. It is my job to protect them, and that includes illnesses. Everyone is going to have opinions about vaccinations, but until I see 100% proof that a vaccination is the cause of autism, cancer or whatever other aliment, I won’t give a second thought about vaccinating my kids. And when I say proof I mean proof. Not linked.

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  184. Wow, you’re all putting the population at risk by not vaccinating your children. Autism and vaccination correlations were false the doctor who first published the paper that started it all was found to have several conflicts of interest the paper was removed and he basically lost his ability to practice and his research was declared fraudulent. Look at infant mortality rates before and after the major vaccinations were made mandatory. Even look at the flu vaccine for swine flu that came out last year. The outbreak could have been much worse. I loath people who are quick to shun modern medical treatments and science based on fringe opinions. Yeah sometimes doctors and pharmacists make mistakes but I’d still put my life in the hands of the people who have dedicated their lives to researching whats best for us and who have large agencies regulating them so they can identify mistakes quickly and try to fix them before I refuse treatment based on the opinion of some reporter who read an article about some erin brockovich type who uncovered a vast conspiracy and decided to scare a million people by casting pharmaceutical companies as evil corporations out to destroy humanity.

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    • I had never heard of anyone not vaccinating their children until I found out my friend wasn’t 3 years ago. I agree with you 100% that people are putting others at risk by not vaccinating their children. The sad part is it will be the children that will suffer if they were to get a disease like polio(which is unheard of now, but not completely gone)!

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  185. Well, this is an old post, but I’d still like to make a quick comment.
    First, that is amazing list, mo garcia! It shows once again that so-called “modern” medicine is really just a profiteering racket designed to keep people ill. Almost all those useless procedures lead to further problems alter on.
    Most diseases we see today are man-made thanks to enviromental toxins, chronic stress, and nutritional deficiencies. But in conventional medicine’s ignorance they only ever look at germs and genes. Vaccines are actually part of a much larger problem that refuses to aknowledge the underlying cause. Thats why vaccines aren’t the only way to prevent viruses. It proves just how much “modern” medicine is a hoax. Why are kids getting cancers, autoimmune disease, and viruses so frequently? Horrible diets, of course. And their completely overloaded with toxins such as pesticides, phlates (found in plastic), flouride, and the myriad of crap most parents use to clean their house. The EWG even said that pesticides are one of the worst cancer-causing chemicals ever. Even in countries with good regulation (such as most European countries) people aren’t entirely protected from these toxins.

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  186. Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

    Wow! Thank you for this eye opening list! My mother was pressured to have xrays of her pelvis when pregnant in the 50′s and 60′s and always refused knowing that commonsense-wise, what a foolish thing it would be to expose the baby to that radiation while in utero. Of course, this was proven correct and the foolishness of vaccines will also will one day be recognized by the majority as complete idiocy, but for now, only the out of the box thinkers are able to grasp this.

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    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
      Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist April 25, 2011 at 11:40 am

      Let me add another one to that list .. routine HRT for menopausal women which was touted for over 40 years to reduce heart disease risk and cancer risk but now has overwhelmingly been proven to INCREASE a woman’s chances of both heart disease and cancer.

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  187. I just want to add to your list of medical mishaps or common practices that modern medicine without any scientific support that have been done in my lifetime only to be proven wrong in the final analysis.

    Routine Repeat Caesarean Sections – based on one doctor’s opinion in 1916.
    Routine manual probes of the uterus after delivery in a woman who has a previous caesarean section.
    Routine ultrasound scans prenatally.
    Routine X-ray pelvimetry on all pregnant women and their babies.
    Routine administration of DES as a vitamin to all pregnant women to prevent miscarriage
    Routine administration of DES to girls who are at risk of being too tall.
    Routine administration of DES as a postcoital birth control pill
    Routine use of DES as a cattle fattening agent
    Routine Radium boxes on thymus glands.
    Removal of thymus glands during heart surgery
    Removal of the thyroid gland because of cancer caused by the radium box in childhood.
    Routine episiotomies
    Routine enemas to laboring women upon admission to L&D.
    Routine IVs
    Routine silver nitrate drops to all new mothers.
    Routine tonsillectomies
    Routine antibiotics for all infections.
    Routine vitamin K shots or drops.
    Routine circumcision for all male babies
    Routine shaving of the pubic hair for all women admitted to L&D
    Routine ear tubes for chronic earaches
    Routine separation of family members at crucial points in illness and life.
    Routine use of pitocin for the management of third stage of labor.
    Routine use of ADHD medication to children who are bored in class.
    Routine early cutting of the umbilical cord
    Routine manual removal of the placenta.
    Routine amniotonomy.

    All of these routine procedures are/were carried out without any scientific studies to support them, just the convenience of the staff and the medical personnel.

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  188. “Ms. Healthy Home Economist, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”

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      • That was a quote from a movie. But movies are probably some sort of conspiracy devised by the American Film Institute, right?

        Look, here are the facts, which I can actually cite to a valid source (as opposed to your moronic “vaccinated children always seem sicker to me” argument):

        Morbidity from smallpox has decreased 100% since the introduction of the vaccine
        Morbidity from diphtheria has decreased 100% since the introduction of the vaccine
        Morbidity from poliomyelitis has decreased 100% since the introduction of the vaccine
        Morbidity from measles has decreased 100% since the introduction of the vaccine
        Rubella, mumps, tetanus, and pertussis all have reductions in the 95%-99% range…all since their respective vaccines were introduced. (CDC. MMWR. 1999;48:243-247.)

        And there are literally hundreds of other sources citing similar data. Give me one study–other than the one that was revealed to be falsified by ignorant whackos who share your point of view–that supports your point. Just one, from peer-reviewed literature please. (FYI: “The Healthy Home Economist” who knows a couple doctors doesn’t count.) Can you do it?

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      • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
        Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist July 3, 2011 at 8:46 am

        Her name is not really “Grace”. This same person is hopping around to anti-vax blogs and posting the same silliness.

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    • Normal people don’t post like you. Surely you’re a ‘Pharma’ guy. Upgrade your posting style if you want to be effective. Sheez……..

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  189. Lauren, you need to wake up. I haven’t received one vaccination but I’ve lived a healthy lifestyle and have never gotten any real illness and barely a sniffle. All without these big pharama poisons. Your argument is invalid.

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    • Eustace, you haven’t gotten sick because EVERYONE ELSE is being vaccinated. Thanks to you and all the other sheep believing this moron, you will now have the increased risk of contracting a deadly disease. Good luck with that!

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      • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

        Sally, I’ve written another post which details and shows charts that indicate that these epidemics were on their way out LONG BEFORE vaccines came on the scene. Better hygiene, running water, better distribution of food (fruits and veggies), the car (no more horses pooping in the streets) are the reasons why. NOT some toxic brew injected into the arms of millions of lemmings.
        http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/2011/01/why-vaccines-are-scientific-fraud/
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          • Actually, I win. Having read your article, I have come to the zen position of no longer being angry at people who don’t vaccinate their children. This will be the Darwinian weeding out of the lesser members of our species. Having been fully vaccinated myself, and clearly having fully vaccinated my children, my lineage will go on to prosper. I now thank you for your article and hope you continue to write delightfully hilarious articles that will enforce the rise of a more intelligent, vaccinated human race!

          • Um, really Sarah? Because in a comment above, “Maureen you are CLUELESS. Your adult children got what, 3 vaccines? The kids now get upwards of 60 last I checked. WAKE UP! Your ignorance and closed mindedness is embarrassing you.”, you certainly didn’t hold back.

            And what about the time you told a woman not to have children until she agreed with you? Yes, that was an excellent line of argument.

            But at least we finally agree on something. You know you’ve lost this argument. I don’t even think you believe the things you say yourself. But you sure like the ad revenue you get from clicks and hits on your site whenever you post about this topic.

          • Sarah, TheHealthyHomeEconomist

            Grace I am very intrigued why you are hop scotching around every single one of my anti vax posts and leaving these ridiculous comments. Why are you even bothering to read them when you are clearly not in the slightest interested in the information they contain? I never told a woman not to have children until she agreed with me?? I have no idea what you are even talking about!

            Oh and I just refreshed myself on this info .. children get 68 vaccines by age 12 and the CDC vaccination schedule recommends 141 for adults! Can you in good conscience really support this insane overmedication of the population? What number will cause you concern? 100, 250, 500? Where will you draw the line or will you just keep accepting these new shots like a good little sheeple?
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          • Sarah, it’s hardly intriguing. I have read each one of your posts on this topic and others (not just anti-vax) and am continually stunned by what you write. You are such a hypocrite that it is amazing.

            #1: You quote studies that are founded by anti-vaccine camps as if they are gospel from God himself and yet you discount every. single. study put forth by other groups that don’t bring the results you want. Bias can work both ways and the sad part is that you fail to recognize your own.

            #2: You continually yell and scream at the “big pharma” companies for trying to make a profit. Well, NO one I know is in the business of helping people be more healthy for free. Chiropractors, DOs, naturopaths, massage therapists, nurse midwives, etc., all charge for their services. So do pediatricians and pharmaceutical companies. You yourself make money from this blog and say that you “see nothing wrong with that.” Well, guess what, I agree with you on this point. There IS nothing wrong in having a service to offer and profiting from it, but it is the height of hypocrisy to say that it is wrong for pharmaceutical companies to profit from producing medications and yet make money for the BlogHer hits you get from people reading that article.

            #3: You always say how negative pro-vax people are and how they call names and are mean. Well. . . Sarah, I have seen you belittle people right and left. You call them names/condescending terms when they disagree with you (“Sheeple”/moron are just two examples), completely dismiss any good points that the opposition might make (and surely, there must be a few good points to be made in there somewhere – just as anit-vax people do make good points, too), and you make broad, sweeping generalizations (pediatrics is a waste of time as a subspecialty – really? There aren’t any good pediatricians or reasons to see someone who specializes in children’s medicine. Have you ever met a child with a pediatric form of cancer? Those children need specialized treatment and their parents would probably be very surprised by your opinion.), yet you are derisive and quick to point out when anyone else (but you) does the same.

            I “hop around to all of these posts” because I wanted to see what your “over-all” tone was. And what I left with was a bad taste in my mouth. I could even understand your bitterness and contempt if one of your children had been injured by a vaccine, but what I find instead is that it just seems to be in your nature to look down on people that don’t “agree” with you. I read your bio and it is just such a shame that your talents are being put to better use.

            Oh, and for the record, I actually came to this site because I had some concerns about continuing to vaccinate my daughter since a bad site reaction at her 6 month visit. A friend recommended your site, so that’s how I ended up there. I still have concerns about vaccinations, but the way that you shame people, provide incorrect data, lie to your readers, and fail to produce one single credible source for all of your claims, has me looking elsewhere for answers. If you are truly trying to educate people, do that. Don’t make them feel bad or “stupid” or wrong or a “sheeple”. If you truly believe people are being misled, then try compassion, not being condescending. Create a safe place to come for information and not for judgment. Anytime someone tells me that they have the “only” truth, I immediately become suspicious, because truth isn’t like that. It tends to lie somewhere in the gray, somewhere in between the “two sides.” There are good and bad parts to modern medicine, good and bad parts to alternative medicine – both have their place and just need to be used responsibly. Healthy living is obviously far more about what goes on outside the doctor’s office than in. There are bad doctors out there, who are motivated only by profit and would put that above the needs of their patients, but there are many wonderful MDs who are quite the opposite and care very much about the well-being of your family and children (and some of them just happen to be pediatricians). But dismissing them would be like me saying that all anti-vaccine people are quacks, nuts, off-their-rockers, etc. I don’t believe that. I believe most are just parents trying their very best to do the very best for their families – especially their kids. That’s what I came here hoping to find, and left, very disappointed.

            I won’t be back, because this is your page and of course, you have the freedom to post what you would like. And I have the freedom not to read it and find the information I am seeking elsewhere. I just hope that some of my responses to other comments make people think a little about what they have read here.

          • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
            Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist June 15, 2011 at 8:54 pm

            Hope you feel better now Grace. You say you won’t be back, but I seem to keep seeing comments from you? What’s that all about? Something about the info is just too irresistable I guess. The truth does tend to do that to people.

            And for the record, I never called anyone a moron. I’ve been called a moron plenty though. :)

        • Grace- I think it’s strange that you are quick to jump on Sarah for being aggresive, when you have been nothing short of aggressive yourself? Is it WRONG- or is it a bloggers prerogative?? I think I personally would be hesitant to be as firm as Sarah —but after so many angry, defensive and slanderous posts on MY blog– i think the tone in my voice would change :o)

          Knowing how passionate people are from “both sides”, I think it would be prudent to quit pointing fingers and be willing to do more research than you’ve ever done. It took me 2 years of intense research to be confident in what we were going to do for our family.

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  190. This article must be balanced with other FACTUAL information. Most of your comments are strictly opinion and have no clinical basis or citation. Such as the fact that the introduction of a pneumococcal vaccine for infants and children that was introduced in 2000 has led to a 96.6% reduction rate of invasive pneumococcal disease in children (Hicks LA, et al. J Infect Dis. 2007;196:1346-1354). Our children are not being vaccinated simply to be vaccinated. Vaccines are crucial for the sustained fight against LIFE-THREATENING diseases like measles and others. My 2-year old son has been vaccinated and is an extremely health and intelligent little boy. I am expecting my second son this summer and he too, will be vaccinated. You are entitled to your opinions, but don’t try to undermine educated parents like myself and our decisions.

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  192. Wow. I simply cannot believe the nerve of people who make posts like this. Skepticism is a virtue, but only when well placed. The increase in antivax mentality is the cause of many of the recent preventable disease outbreaks, especially among children. If you don’t want to vaccinate yourself, that’s fine. However, by refusing to vaccinate your children, you are not only putting THEM at risk for diseases which could kill them, you are putting other peoples’ children at risk as well. I will certainly agree that overmedicated children are a problem these days, but preventing them from being vaccinated for potentially deadly diseases is sheer idiocy. There is a REASON life expectancy is so great in this day and age – one such reason is that we are able to prevent childhood mortality from many diseases which used to be huge problems. Some examples are polio, measles, mumps, rubella, and smallpox.

    Don’t put your kids at risk. Get them vaccinated. Oh, by the way? Your ignorance shows with this little gem:

    “…human diploid cells (the dissected cells of aborted fetuses)…”

    That isn’t what diploid means. Diploid cells are cells with 2 of each type of chromosome, or almost any cell that isn’t an egg or sperm cell. Egg and sperm cells are haploid cells, and have only one of each chromosome. Please, for the sake of the wellbeing of your readers, educate yourself on what words mean before you use them.

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    • Allyson, do you work for a pharmaceutical company? Using insults and inciting fear seems to be the main method for promoting vaccines.

      By the way, YOUR ignorance shows through in your post. Pharma has widely documented and defended their use of aborted fetuses to develop certain vaccines.

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      • cogforlife.org is an excellent website for information on the use of fetal cells in the development of vaccines. It also lists which vaccines are from fetal cell lines and which ones are from other sources, such as chicken embryo. Our pediatrician was very surprised when I showed her the info – listed in the vacc. insert. More info to use to become educated.

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      • you over shot the point she wasn’t denying that they use egg cells and fetuses she was commenting on the incorrect use of terminology (diploid/haploid), read the post properly and you will se she made no comment on them not using them.

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    • Huh? You actually said the unvaccinated are putting everybody at risk? Why the outrage? You’re protected, aren’t you???? Because…..YOU’RE VACCINATED!!! Yes, what else?!

      And the rest of us that aren’t……….you’re putting US in danger. How about researching the virus transfers of recently vaccinated people in the OTHER DIRECTION?

      Please quarantine yourself next time you get a vaccine: this way you’ll show respect for those that don’t choose another way. Thank you.

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  193. Hi Sarah, just thanking you for a wonderful article. As a new and very happy parent of a healthy – unvaccinated – 1 year old boy, I am so grateful that we had information at our disposal that helped us protect our baby. So far he has NOT been sick even once – not a sniffle, not any problem at all. And this despite the fact that I was sick with flu for a good week , and he was exposed to a houseful of our close family who were all infected. Nothing. Common sense tells the open-minded person that vaccines are (in the vast majority of cases) unnecessary. We humans have lived and thrived for 100′s of thousands of years on this planet and we have never needed vaccines. Clearly its the pharmaceutical companies that need them more than human beings.
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  194. You said, “In my own circle, the Moms I know who have one or two older kids who are fully vaccinated and the younger kids who did not get any shots tell me that, hands down, that the unvaccinated children are healthier and have less problems.”
    That is what I have experienced with my older two vs. my younger three so far. I wrote about it here: http://www.raisingknights.com/2010/11/raising-healthier-kids-my-experience.html
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  195. I have said it once and I will say it again. You are a nut. The more you post, the more I feel the need to say something.

    You are too high and mighty for your own good. You are telling people to not get their kids vaccines. Nice. Why not sign the death certificate for them as well? You are a huge nut. Nothing more.

    I wonder if nuts are healthy???

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      • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
        Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist March 29, 2011 at 2:57 pm

        Interesting though, your comment about how the more I post, the more you feel the need to say something. Why do you even read my blog if I’m such a nut? Something must ring true to you deep down even if you don’t consciously admit it. Can’t tear yourself away from the truth, can you?

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  196. Thank you so much for posting this article! It makes me feel less crazy for not vaxing my toddler. We were going to do a delayed and selective schedule at first but then I started reading more and decided to hold off all vaccines until she is school age and we can make better decisions. I want to avoid vaccinating completely while my husband wants her to get a few. Hopefully we can meet a compromise by age 5. I am shocked at how many from the medical profession think I’m a horrible and ignorant mom for not vaxing…I guess they’re brainwashed by the pharmaceutical companies.
    I think the most important point is you can’t undo a vaccine! I can ‘undo’ delaying and not vaxing but parents who choose to vaccinate cannot undo their decision and while they argue that they were vaccinated and are ‘normal’ I argue that I wouldn’t know that would be the case with my child until it was too late. I’m a teacher and I see too many kids suffering from ADHD, autism, and other issues that are just a ‘fluke’ according to the medical community but I believe its from our vaccines and things we feed our kids (like the MSG…oh hey wait, they also put that in vaccines)!

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  197. Just wanted to say that I suffer from an autoimmune disease. It started around the time that I started a job at a hospital and had to be vaccinated for HepB. I had my first child just before this and had him fully vaccinated by 12/18 months as well. None of my other 6 children have been vaccinated. The oldest is dyslexic, has attention problems, cannot stay on task. He is otherwise very bright but cannot focus. He also still wets the bed nearly every night at 13 years old. None of the other children have these issues.

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  198. Just wanted to say thank you for this article, helps to know I’m not alone. Trying to turn a crowd rushing for the door is a very hard thing to do, even if turning will save their lives. I appreciate the time you have taken to put this out and the many other articles you have written. I’m just getting started on the reading and like what I’ve seen so far! God Bless, Katie: Mother of 7

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  199. Great article. I shared w/ my facebook community :) I started off vaccinating with my oldest.. and now my youngest (fourth) has not had any. It’s so important to get people thinking about who they are allowing to make the decisions for the health of their children. It’s sad that our society has succumbed to lies perpetrated by a huge industry and our government puts a big ‘old stamp of approval on it.

    I think it would be great if your article also included information regarding the fact that the CDC is run by former pharmaceutical employees. The fox is guarding the hen house!

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  200. I have 4 children. The eldest (born 1982) had one dose of DPT which was given late. He then had a persistent and whoop cough which lasted the whole winter. After this we tried to give him just DT for the next vaccine but were stonewalled. So we started to research. Due to this we made the decision for him to have no further shots and the other 3 children had no vaccines at all. They are now 28, 25, 23 and 20. The eldest two had one ear infection after a swimming lesson. None had antibiotics until adulthood. The 23 yr old took a while to breathe when born. At around 2 she suffered croup and was given a homoeopathic remedy and that cured her. Around 9 she had a anaphalactic reaction to an unknown substance. I firmly believe that vaccines would have been dangerous for her. My youngest has some health issues which are yet to be diagnosed. Again I believe that vaccines would have severely affected her immune system. I live in NZ and was involved with a group who supported parents of children who had adverse reactions to vaccines. Many found the medical professionals they encountered would not admit that vaccines were the cause. For some 80 that were accepted as vaccine damage only 3 made it to the official statistics. One was 8 weeks prem and so still 2 weeks prem when given his “6 week” shots. He is now in a wheelchair due to cavvine induced spastic quadraplegia. His reaction caused a health department warning that premmies should not receive shots until 6 weeks after their due date. After divorce I was a single mum with low income. We live in a city and our diet was very average. We did take regular Vitamin C and only used homoeopathic medicines. Do I think the world would be better without vaccines? Yes I do. Any graph (see link above for one) will show how much these diseases had declined prior to the intervention of vaccines. I have to wonder if these diseases would no longer be around without vaccines. Can someone tell me why we no longer have the Black Plague? It disappeared prior to vaccines. Herd immunity? This was effected by the population having come in contact with the illness over generations and everyone having natural immunity which mothers passed on to their babies. Did you know that vaccinated mothers do not pass immunity to their babies? One problem with the herd immunity theory is that fully vaccinated children are still getting these diseases. It is true that the only cases of polio in the last 20 years came from vaccinated children. My children had measles and chickenpox as youngsters with no issues. I accept that there is a risk with the diseases but it was our choice to take that risk rather than the risk of vaccines damaging their immune systems. Some of the people above who have chosen to vaccinate have done so at a timing and in a manner which has lessened the risks to their children. I applaud them for that. Others who have completed research and still decided to vaccinate have made their choice as I did with the willingness to live with the risks. What I find hard is the multitude who have no idea that there are risks from vaccines. And for some of these it will be too late by the time they have a vaccine injured child.

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    • Just wanted to point out that the Black Plague is still around.

      Reference to article: http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/829233-overview

      “Unlike smallpox, the plague never will be eradicated. It lives in millions of animals and on billions of fleas that reside on them. It is a disease of the desert, the steppes, the mountains, and the forest.”

      I believe here in California, there was a reported case of Bubonic plague as recently as 2006. I know that where locally where I live, the US Forest Service has found instances of squirrells being infected with the black plague. I believe it is still easily treated with antibiotics.

      To me, the biggest issue we will face is the fact of antibiotics no longer working due to resistance. Sadly, I do not think that in twenty years we will be celebrating the end of all infectious diseases . Instead, I believe that most of our antibiotics will no longer work and we will get the “joy” of watching our children and families die of staph and strep infections, pneumonia and other diseases treated with antibiotics today.

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      • There are natural antibiotics such as tea tree oil, colloidial silver, and vitamin C.
        However, “modern” medicine instead of researching alternatives to antibiotics continues to arrogantly overuse antibiotics. Many of these natural alternatives are actually superior to the conventional ones.

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        • You are so right – my sister just found a rememdy for a long term (YEARS even) problem with mucus and sinuses.

          She had seen an allergist and wasn’t getting anywhere. Her results came back that she wasn’t even allergic to anything.

          She just started gargling twice a day with salt water, and PRESTO – not much time after the mucus wasn’t there……a miracle really! No meds — no side effects.

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      • So that I just read your post. I am a nurse and I just had to complete a “annual training” module. Well I laughed aloud when I read the
        QUESTION: “Which is a good step in the fight against antibiotic-resistance”?

        I got excited…thinking ohh maybe it will actually address antibiotic over-usage….

        ANSWER: “Getting all your vaccinations”.

        HUH?!?! I’m. just. plain. confused.

        The majority of vaccines (flu, mumps, measles, rubella, polio, HPV, rotavirus, hep B, hep A, chicken pox…..) are for VIRUS’!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How the heck does ensuring that we have those help the COLOSSAL issue of antibiotic-resistance organisms?

        And it’s interesting to note the complication what some vaccines have brought to microbe mutation and virulence. The first HIB shot was only for 7 strands, recently they created a whole new vaccine with 13 different strains in it because the old vaccine caused new uncommon strains to become common and virulent. Hmm…

        Anyways– I suppose the assumtion on my o-so-informative training module was that if you do get a bacterial vaccine (pneumococcal/menigococcal/Hib) you are “preventing” yourself from getting that specific strain (not for sure) and being one less person who might need an antibiotic for an infection….and one less person to contribute to the antibiotic resistance issue from OVER-USAGE. Hm… that’s kinda a stretch. I think a better answer would have been:
        ANSWER: STOP TAKING ANTIBIOTIC FOR NOTHING-NESS….colds, flus, aches, ear-infections, skin infections, sinus infections….t
        he list goes on and on. Now that would REALLY help this huge issue…that I completely agree Sarah T….is killing and will be killing more of our family then we could ever imagine. A completely man-made epidemic brought on by the ABUSE of medicine.
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    • Yes, another red flag is: you get the vaccine, you get a reaction. But never, NEVER is there a correlation. Oh, really? That’s just some AMAZING coincidence, isn’t it.

      That’s another reason to question their good faith…..

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  201. As far as I am concerned, vaccination is an organised criminal enterprise dressed up as disease prevention.

    “Belief in immunization is a form of delusional insanity.”
    Dr Herbert Shelton, USA

    “I was shocked to find that this whole vaccine business was indeed a gigantic hoax.”
    Dr A Kalokerinos MD, Australia

    “Vaccines contain substances which are so noxious they should not ever be injected into a human body.”
    Dr Viera Scheibner PhD, Australia

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  202. Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

    Welcome SLee! Thank you for your comments. This blog is for people who THINK for themselves, not people who blindly follow the crowd or what their doctor/school nurse/nutritionist says. There is no substitute for personal responsibility when it comes to health.

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  203. I just discovered your website! Awesome! Thank you! I have 3 boys 11-15. 2 were home births, the middle a C-Section. He was breach and I tried to deliver him vaginally, but it wasn’t happening. My boys all got vaccines, but at my schedule and not exactly what was populary given at the time. They are healthier than most and when they do get something it last only a day. They are very athletic and active. They eat well. They were nursed for their first 8-12 months as often as they wanted. They nursed until they wanted to stop. Between the 3, they only had a total of 5 jars of baby food, none of which was ever finished. They hated the taste of dead canned food. What they got was whole food, what ever was on my menu was on theirs, mashed according to need with breast milk or water. My middle son who was born at a well respected hospital is the one who has the most “health issues”, sinus issues and dry skin and when there is something that gets us, he seems to get it the worst. He slept in the hospital bed with me the whole time but he did get that dose of the epidural. A friend who’s kids have never been vaccinated, are much more sickly than mine. They eat organic. We do as we can and afford to. But we focus on eating whole foods and rarely have soda or fast food. For us it’s about balance. My sister is Rubella, born during the German Measle epidemic of the mid 60′s. My kids got the MMR vaccine at a later age than the doctor would have liked. The Polio vaccine was spaced out more and they were given the “dead” vaccine instead of the live which was creating the new cases of the disease. It was a huge epidmic and it would be horrible for it to come back. The pertusis vaccine given was one that was given in Japan and later made it to the states. I think there are a multitude of factors that play a role in how vaccines affect our kids. And for sure, they are given way too many, way too soon for their tiny bodies. But beliefs and emotions play a powerful role in our overall health as well.
    Health is in our hands, not the hands of anyone else. Only we can know what’s best for ourselves. Thank you for this wonderful forum!

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  205. Thank you for this article. The only thing that really bothered me was when you said ” Fully Vaccinated Children are the Unhealthiest, Most Chronically Ill Children I Know” I go to a church with other young couples. Altogether our church has 20-30 young children – children between 2-8. My children have all been vaccinated and are among the healthiest group of the bunch. If they get sick it lasts a day. With they exception of my youngest mind you. he has eczema really bad. However they also rarely have a cold too. My brothers family has never been vaccinated but the have allergies and asthma just like their mom. Anyway i also know that things depend a lot on good diets and stuff which we eat pretty healthy. Thanks again for the informative web site

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    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
      Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist January 11, 2011 at 5:24 pm

      Hi Digitalangel3, comparisons between individual families may vary as you suggest and have observed. However, in general, if you observe all the children you know who are vaccinated versus the unvaccinated, the differences are huge. And, you are so right. Diet is a big part of sustaining whatever health a child comes into the world with. A nonvaccinated child that eats junk food all the time will obviously have issues. Generally speaking, unvaccinated children comes from families that are more diet conscious than not. Thank you for commenting with your personal story.

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    • My 2nd child has had bouts of asthma, and my 4th suffers with eczema, both which have been controlled by diet and lifestyle … I can only imagine how much more they would have suffered had I relented to healthcare professional’s constant badgering and given into the big V …

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    • What about my friend who’s been a music teacher at a Lutheran school forever? His observation is: why at noon does the school nurse have to hand out so many meds to the children? This according to him never happened 30 years ago. At most you would have ONE kid needing attention……not a dozen.

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  206. Imagine being an R. N. , working in an NICU(neonatal intensive care unit), working with premature(as young as 22-23 wks. gestation) and sick babies, working at a pediatrician’s office. & not vaccinating my kids(or myself). Not something I necessarily advertise:), but if a parent asks me, I tell them the truth- that after much research, we have decided not to vaccinate, but is up to them to ask questions, do their research, and decide for themselves

    Good conversation all around, from the blog to all the comments, for & against:):). Just good to be talking about it and not blindly following(as with anything:)

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  207. Sarah,
    You seem pretty skilled at finding evidence to counter the mainstream theories about the efficacy of vaccines, so I thought I’d send you the latest article out today to see what you’d say about their attempts to talk about the Myths associated with the anti-vaccinaton movement. http://www.usatoday.com/yourlife/health/medical/2011-01-06-vaccinemyths06_ONLINE_ST06_N.htm?csp=34news

    On a related side note–I would like to point out something that I find ironic in your postings about the vaccines. As much as I read your vaccine postings as well thought out and researched, I also find that there is a tone of fear in them that is ironic to me. You say that the Drs and Big Pharm want to scare us into getting vaccinated. Yet you also use the tone of fear- “Someday there will be a study that shows that unvaccinated children have many less health problems than their vaccinated peers. Don’t wait until this study is finally done because it will be too late for your child.” Point is–i’m a social worker, I work hard to build relationships with the families I work with based on trust, optimism, hope. Making them afraid drives them away. Don’t you think you might go a long way to build relationships with people who DON’T agree with you by using other tactics then your own version of fear mongering? I can read your posts and take your research at face value-you have valuable things to say. Where you lose me though is you throwing your hat into the fear ring. Its a tired trick. Our culture has become consumed with fear. We are paralyzed by fear. See: Glenn Beck-King of Fear Mongering. It just all sounds manipulative to me at this point “do that, don’t do this”. Its exhausting. 24/7 media and blogs like this don’t help in our country’s dire need to reduce fear and accusations as our main forms of communication.

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  208. “Someday there will be a study that shows that unvaccinated children have many less health problems than their vaccinated peers,” you say. This is your hypothesis, why don’t you run the study? Especially since you seem to know so many unvaccinated children?
    And please don’t comment on well run studies if you haven’t read them! “How about hormone replacement therapy for women?” How about it? Did you read the study? I wasn’t done on menopausal or even peri-menopausal women. A women had to be age 70 or greater to get in the study! By that time the ravages of Alzheimers and cancer had made their inroads. What was the govenment thinking, giving HRT to 70 yr old women??
    Be very careful what you publish about reports if you haven’t read the original studies and conducted your own analysis.
    I personally know 2 unvaccinated children in one family, one is blind the other deaf from diptheria (you know the one, it’s in the DPT vaccination, along with whooping cough).
    I agree, the drug companies are not innocent, and need more regulation especially for the phase 4 trials which are supposed to log adverse affects after FDA approval. Vioxx would not have remained as long as it did if these studies had been properly conducted and docs had not been “bribed” to prescribe them. The same is true for Neurontin and many other drugs.
    Definitely, do your homework, investigate, but not on sites like this! Go to the original studies. And Don’t put our children at harms risk. As the number of unvaccinated children grows, so will the epidemics. Like the polio epidemic when I was a child. I lost playmates and many that didn’t die,now have permanent limb damage and are starting to require joint surgeries.
    Those who don’t learn from history must repeat it.

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    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

      Here you go, Ann. At the time I wrote this post, I didn’t know about this info by Dr. Eisenstein. I wrote about it in a subsequent post which I guess you haven’t read. I don’t expect it to convince you though. You seem quite happy inside the box of conventional thought on health and wellness.

      Check out this video and website by Dr. Mayer Eisenstein MD, who since 1973, has observed virtually no asthma, allergies, ADHD, ADD, autism, in over 35,000 cases of unvaccinated children.

      Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist\’s last post: Monday Mania- 1-3-2011

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      • Hey Sarah, I have a tip for you. If you want to support your argument with facts, you need to quote more than one MD’s anecdotal evidence. For someone who seems so well read, its surprising that you cant distinguish between anecodotal evidence and a scientific study.

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  209. This would be worthy searching out, but I read a while back about a study among Amish children (who are not vaccinated) that revealed that the only Amish children who could be found with autism were those who were not born in traditional Amish communities, but were adopted in AFTER receiving infant vaccinations. I quit having my children vaccinated at the time their 12-year old booster shots were due, after finally researching the subject (though I did refuse the chicken pox vaccine when they were little). I wish I would have researched the topic before they were born. Both of them have food allergies and my son has struggled with hyperactivity and attention issues. I always tell my kids to refuse all vaccinations until their children are at least 2 years old, which will give them the time they need to thoroughly research each disease and vaccine for those diseases (before giving in to pressure to go with the flow….and then hope for the best).

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    • Again, there are a lot of other factors here. They don’t have Tylenol, for example, which is showing to contribute to/possibly activate the gene responsible for some types of autism. They don’t have the prepared food that we have. They don’t have the technology that we have. They don’t live in the pollution that others do. There are some VERY different environmental factors between the Amish and the average American – I do not think you can make a blanket statement saying that they don’t have autism because they don’t get vaccinated.

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      • Sorry, but as an ex-Amish, I’ve got to correct this one. There is Tylenol, Advil, Excedrin, on and on and on… There is plenty of processed food as well. Yes, mostly garden produce and home grown meat, but OH the white flour, white sugar, cream cheese in everything, kool-aid all the time, dessert two or three times a day… And, yes, most don’t live in the thick of smog, but pollution is everywhere, air, water, land…

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        • I’m from an Amish area in northern Indiana, and they’re at McDonalds all the time….and Dairy Queen.

          If you go to one of their bakesales, things are done with the worst ingredients….Cool Whip, etc.

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    • Hyperactivity and attention isn’t an issue… why on earth would you call that an issue? Especially in a boy? My son is the same way… extremely hyper and with the attention span of a gold fish. Just because it’s hard for him to sit still or listen to a set of directions, doesn’t mean he has issues, even if he seems out of control in our uber-civilized, structured to one type of person, systematic society. He could be considered a great warrior in other countries for all anyone knows, certainly not a boy with “hyperactivity and attention issues”. These aren’t necessarily symptoms, these are also personality traits.

      Sorry, that comment struck a nerve, can you tell? lol :) It goes along with all the over-diagnosis of ADD in boys especially. I think the ADD statistic should be thrown out the window of all medical arguments, because it’s bogus, it’s not a disease or a disorder, it’s a different way of functioning/thinking. There are techniques of tailoring the environment to suit the needs of a child with an ADD-like brain, it’s not that the child is defective and incapable of learning. We have such a factory way of educating our children, and we expect them all to be able to thrive in it, just insanity to think that way.

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  210. I’m in the Army; I don’t have a choice in whether or not I get vaccinated. However, military hospitals won’t refuse to treat unvaccinated children, but the schools at overseas bases won’t let non-vaccinated children attend, and the childcare centers on post won’t let your children in, either.
    I already commented on another vaccine-related post, but I’ll say it again: When you don’t vaccinate for at least the basics, you’re a parasite, depending on herd immunity to keep your child’s chance of contracting a potentially fatal or maiming disease low. Nutrition is not the only answer; these vaccines were developed because even before industrial agriculture, these diseases killed. I can perhaps see waiting until 2yo; I can see turning down something like HepB, which is generally sexually transmitted, until the child is older. But a blanket refusal to vaccinate is, I think, foolish.
    Regarding the vaccinated kids being less healthy…. well, you might look up the phrase ‘confirmation bias’. When you have a pre-set idea, you tend to notice and remember evidence that supports your theory and ignore/forget that which doesn’t. Which, I suspect, is the case here. I and my siblings were all vaccinated and we were perfectly healthy, thanks. I think you’re skewing the data on this idea, though it may be subconscious on your part.

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    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
      Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist December 19, 2010 at 9:22 am

      Kasi, you are completely ignoring the fact that children today are getting 68 vaccinations by by age 12 whereas you and I got THREE. Also, healthy is a matter of definition. I just scratch my head when people tell me they are “healthy” and then go on to describe all the aches, pains, and other problems they suffer from. Most people don’t even know what healthy really is.

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      • Okay seriously, to argue that “I think what I think becasue I want to think it and everyone else is lying because they can” is a TERRIBLE argument! And not scientific at all. If you want respect and for things to change from a large number of vaccines to few or none then you have to find actual evidence that supports that it is significantly better for the majority to not be vaccinated. I have read through this article and the majority of replies and I’m sorry Sarah but you routinely belittle and even put down people that have an opinion in favor of vaccines for the same reasons that you do not favor them [ i.e. I have relatives/people I know that have been vaccinated and are healthy, or I have seen children that have suffered severe imparment due to the disease that a vaccine would have esally prevented].
        Many of the responders here that have stated that they are not vaccinating their children are also living an altogether different life-style than the average American family. So yes, when you eat grass grown in your own backyard, live a 100 miles away from an average city and rarely socialize with anyone that has a different opinion than you (inlcuding stupid non-parents who pedal the lies of big pharma), then yes your children will not get polio (that has a higher statistical occurance of life-long paralysis than tetanus does of temporary neralgia0, or mumps (that causes extreme pain and frequently leads to sterility), or tetanus (which if it has already entered the blood stream from a puncture wound, which is when a tetanus booster is reccomended, no amount of soap and water can get rid of).
        And secondly, rabies is 100% fatal if not treated early. PERIOD. Yes you might try and say that there is this homiopathic blah, blah that can make things all warm and fuzzy, but in the end…rabies is 100% fatal. And it was 100% fatal before big pharma was every around.
        Yes there is an increase in occurance of autism, asthema, ADHD, diabetes, auto-immune disorders, mental health problems, developmental delays, etc…in the last few decades.
        And yes, the US has one of the worst infant mortality rates of any industrialized nation.
        However, most of these increases in diseases/disorders have to do with 1) a better and more in-depth understanding of the condition and more accurate diagnosis for patients that were previously just “strange” or “odd” or “shy” (this most specifically applies to autism as it is a spectrum disorder and Asburgers is the most commonly diagnosised part of the spectrum and many of these children would have just been thought of as “funny” in past decades) 2)some of these diseases are now over diagnosised (such as with ADHD or even auto-immune disorders that disappear after childhood?!?) and used as an excuses or scapgoat for out-of-control or just generally sick kids who need little more then discipline or rest or time to grow out of it! 3) Many of the countries that have better infant mortality rates than the US also do not attempt to save and maintain the life of infants born extremely premature (24, 25, 26 weeks gestation and around 1-1.5 pounds) like is expected in the States. Also many of these contries have socialized medicine [however not an advocate of that either] and have more responsible citizens that take advantage of all that healthcare has to offer both during their pregnancies and day-to-day life. Preventative care is one of the BIGGEST determanents of better health even before vaccines or location of where you live. Also these countries provide financial assistance to mothers after delivery until toddlerhood (most at least the first year some even beyond two years) to allow parents to stay home with their infant and encourages breastfeeding (I’m a huge supporter on this one!). 4) Yes the “heard effect” is real! When 95 out of 100 people get vaccinated against illness X then all 100 are protected against it because it is less likely that the other 5 will get it the disease since it is not being spread amoung the other 95 people. That is just basic math there! Deny it all you want, but just because you say that is it not the truth doesn’t mean that it isnt the truth. The color red is always red even if you try and say that you think it is blue.
        Finally, the reason that vaccines were created or even thought up in the first place is because the actual disease suck! People and specifically kids and babies DIED from many of the illness as recently as 50 years ago. The reason small pox doesnt exsist anymore is because of vaccines. The reason that you and your children are safe against diptheria, typhoid, polio, and mengitis is because everyone else’s kid is being vaccinated against them and so are/were all their parents. And even something like Gardisil is helping…HPV is contracted from sexual contact. However there is currently no way to test male partners for this disease. So female partners only find out that their partner had it when they test positive for it on a Pap smear. HPV has a high rate of developing into cervical cancer that can lead to death, hysterectomy and even cervical insufficancy (when a pregnancy can not be maintained beyond approx 22 weeks and a woman spontaniously goes into labor and delivers a baby that is born alive but to young and underdeveloped to survive and so a mother must sit there and hold her child as it dies in her arms attempting to fight to breath when there is not enough lung tissue to allow oxygen exchange and the baby eventually dies, sometimes in minutes sometimes hours!) all because she did not receive a vaccine that might make her feels dizzy or light-headed for a little bit of time but would have protected her against the disease that lead to half her cervix being destroyed and holding a dying child.
        And speaking of dying children; what about all the parents that choose not to vaccinate and end up loosing their children to purtusis (whooping cough), measles, or cholera (as previously pointed out thousands are dying from in Haiti currently)??? Is it a fair risk to maybe lose your child or have severe, long-term imparement such as paralysis or an inability to have children an even trade for a small and undefined risk of a few children getting childhood asthema, being ill-tempered or have 3 extra colds a year. I would rather have a child that is sick 4 or 5 more times a year then risk not having my child at all!!!
        Did you know one of tha major reasons that the average size of the American family has dropped from 5 children to 2 in the last century is VACCINES! More babies live to childhood and then adulthood partially due to vaccines then they did a century ago…you dont have to worry about only having 2 children and both of them dying from wooping cough or polio!

        And your previous arguement that you gave a poster of “well you must not have children, otherwise you would understand…” doesn’t work here. I do have a wonderful and exceptionally healthy daughter and she has received ALL of her vaccines including flu shots as have I including a recent TDaP booster. Now, I am not uneducated and I have had arguments with my pediatrician about the frequency, volume, placement, and components of various vaccines. Whether she should receive 6 shots at one time (NO), get 3 different combo shots at one time (NO), vaccines being placed in a small muscle at a young age [which increases the risk of hitting a nerve or not allwoing all of the medicine to stay in the muscle for proper absorption] ( surprise, NO to this one also). I DO agree with the point that you and several other posters have placed in that you must be informed and speak up for your opinion, ask questions and always make choices in the best interest of your child. However, this can be done reasonably while also protecting against serious and fatal illnesses. I would also add that I DO believe that more research needs to be done to properly identify the cause of the increase in childhood disorder diagnosis and that companies that make vaccines do need to be held more accountable for their products so that the public can feel confidence and security in the product that is being produced!

        In the end there is no simple solution as well as no solution that fits every family or every child. Maybe a child whose mother has shown a tendency for severe reactions to medications should be much more cautious with regards to vaccines. Children who are homeschooled and living in remote or rural areas dont necessarily need all the same shots that a child living in the inner city and goes to daycare everyday might need due to different levels of exposure. This is all makes sense, but your previous blanket statement of “vaccines will be gone in 20 years” is false and completely idiotic just because you personally dont know of any unhealthy non-vaccinated children. I also don’t know anybody that has a small dog that doesnt yip and yap all the time. Does that mean that all small dogs must yip and yap therefore we should take drastic measures against it? No, it just means that is my personal experience; it is limited and subjective. That is why it is important to base things on objective, scientific data instead of “he said, she said”. And id you feel so strongly the best thing to do I support research and advocate for change not just bury your head in the sand and say “I’m right because I know that I’m right and that is all I need”. If you truely feel that our children are being posoined by vaccines and they serve no other purpose beyond making money for some big pharma company, that they help in no other way and that a simple diet change, playing in the dirt and some willow root extract is going to make everyone better (which this is exactly what families did a centruy ago!!!) then prove it!!! Otherwise you are simply contributing to big pharam killing everyone else’s kids because we were too stupid to know any better. And how could you live with yourself if you let that happen to everyone else?
        [okay that was a bit crude, but you get my point: if you are right then you are simply talking the talk instead of walking the walk while you KNOW that today's kids are being posioned and are suffereing and dying-or-you are wrong and are just trying to make some parents feel badly about choosing to trust current medical practice when there is no sufficently supported counter arguement-or- there is a middle ground somewhere that could benefit both side and keep everyone's kids healthy but you are being too stubborn to compromise and support research and a better understanding because it might be proven that vaccines are helpful]

        There is my soap-box…thank you for listening :)

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        • Hmmm I think some one is a bit hell bent.. MOM and RN.. I think a little research from the cdc web site and From Merk is in order for you.. Also IOM.. Oh and the poor unhealthy mother who never had a pap smear who lost her child that is a terrible thing to witness I’m sure. But hey the gardasill shot is creating That ” one Less” like the ten year old boy and the 89 other deaths from the shot. Right they don’t have to worry about that even though the rate of cervical cancer death rate is less than that number. A mazing. That you would ramble on about how disease ridden we are or even where.. Look here is a video you as a “Nurse” should watch, to see That there is a VERY REAL RESON WHY NOT TO VACCINATE. And if you don’t watch it, then you will just be like what you said about SARAH. your right and everyone else is crazy.
          “http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdLMeULoujM&NR=1.

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          • So, I watched that video as you recommended (it would have been nice to note that it is 3 hours long when you posted it however!). I did find the information provided by Dr Tenpenny very interesting. As I stated in my previous post, I’m not saying that there are not issues with vaccines, that certain diseases may be more readily diagnosised after the instution of a high vaccine schedule, and that some are over the top (specifically chicken pox). Yet if you pay attention to what the speaker from your video says there are benefits AND risks to vaccines. Many of the vaccines were tested for the safety on older children but now that they are being given at such an early age we are seeing more complications. MMR is one that comes to mind. Yes mumps has a real potential for causing sterility in older children who contract the diease, this fact was confirmed by Dr.Tenpenney in your video. But it does have a low risk of longterm complications in early childhood. So maybe a better solution is to wait to vaccinate not at 6 months but rather 10 years old. The risk is for post-pubecent children. So vaccination at 10 years old would allow a child to develop not only neurologically and reduce the risk of autism as well as other possible auto immune diseases but would protect against possible sterility if contracted in young adolescene. It would also allow the approx 10 year prtection window to continue into young adulthood when a parent might likely be exposed to a young un-vaccinated child who has contracted the disease wile caring for them at home. The other side though is that Dr Tenpenny praised the HiB vaccine for not having preservatives and really working well to solve the major side effects of HiB infections such as long term hearing loss, however it too as been associated with risks…so where do we start and where do we stop? Do we all just dig our heads into the sand and say that “i am rihgt and you cant change my mind” or do we just try and figure out the best plan to keep our kids safe?!?!?! Because you can not seriously believe that the world would be a better place if we all just stopped vaccinating all of our children right now and let all the disease run wild and free…that is just not a realistic point of view. But in the same breath it is not realistic to think that a medicine (which is what a vaccine is) doesnot have some side effects mild or severe for some children; and that those side effects do not need to be addressed is alos rediculous!!!

        • Excellent comment Mom and RN. As a former academic researcher turned sahm, it is difficult for me to listen to anyone who is opposed to vax based on the types of arguments posted here. Most of the young people in our research bldg that worked in the vaccine research labs were very passionate about finding answers to preventing diseases that truly devastated their home populations. Can you imagine what it would mean globally to have an effective HIV vaccine? Malaria? I feed my family as much ‘real food’ as I can and purchase mostly organic produce/dairy/eggs/meat, make sure they are well rested, send them outside as much as possible – and fully vaccinate them, on schedule because I have faith in my pediatrician and his desire to keep my kids safe. I find it insulting to insinuate that any pediatrician would put his patients at risk for a ‘kickback’. The reason some pediatricians do not want to see your kids if they are not vaccinated is because it would break their heart to lose a patient to a preventable illness due to a parents ill informed decision and narcissistic belief that they know more than their health practitioner. Dangerous childhood disease are making a comeback in under vax areas of the country. Specifically whooping cough in Boulder, CO and in parts of CA, due to undervaccinating. This puts the entire population of those areas at risk, esp the elderly and the babies either unvaccinated or too young to be fully vaccinated. This is not just a lifestyle choice, but a dangerous and selfish decision.

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          • I had vaccination separately for measles and rubella as a child, and then I had mumps in grade school. Twenty years ago, I was told that I had to get the MMR vaccine to attend graduate school because I did not have a mumps vaccine. At the time, I didn’t know the risks of the MMR vaccine and didn’t know I could refuse it on philosophical beliefs. I believe that MMR vaccine screwed up my gut, and I have suffered since. You can see regular bumps on my stomach that look like measles. The measles in the MMR vaccine are not the same as measles you would contract if you got sick. My acupuncturist has made the same observation of his son who was vaccinated with MMR and the son that was not. The son that was vaccinated can’t eat dairy. I have the same problem myself. I don’t think there is a good argument for getting vaccinated as an adult either.

        • Mom and RN, check out this article by the CDC http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/6/5/00-0512_article.htm

          “The effects of whole-cell pertussis vaccine wane after 5 to 10 years, and infection in a vaccinated person causes nonspecific symptoms (3-7). Vaccinated adolescents and adults may serve as reservoirs for silent infection and become potential transmitters to unprotected infants (3-11). The whole-cell vaccine for pertussis is protective only against clinical disease, not against infection (15-17). Therefore, even young, recently vaccinated children may serve as reservoirs and potential transmitters of infection.”

          Looks like the vaccine itself is causing pertussis…

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      • I just have to ask – how old are you that you only received three vaccines? I as a child received far more than that, and I’m not a “young” mom by any means.

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  211. My husband is a Marine. As far as I can tell, it’s not true that military hospitals will not treat unvaccinated children. We did vaccinate, but neither have had any in over a decade-no teen year vaccines, or boosters-and they never refused to treat them. I also know military parents who do not vaccinate or who haven’t let their kids get the full vaccination course, and the military hospitals have not refused to treat them. The active duty service member is required to get all the shots, but not family members. I’ve never even been asked if I wanted a flu shot, for either myself or the kids. There’s signs in the ob clinic advocating this year’s shot, but it’s on a bulletin board with all sorts of other papers and ads, and no one has asked me or recommended to me that I get one (I’m 5 months pregnant). I’m still not sure about the whole vaccination thing for this one.

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  212. This article and the comments have made an interesting read for me.
    My wife and I have done extensive research into the whole Vaccination system in place in the US and compared it to other countries worldwide aswell as looking into the pharmaceuticle companies research into their own product (obviously their results are in favor of their products!). We have looked at great detail into all the known and listed ingredients in just about every childhood shot and have come to a very clear and definitive conclusion, which is merely affirmed by your article here…Vacinations are just a huge money making machine aimed primarily, at the only group of people who are unable to say no for themselves, our children.
    The research we have done have shown more than simply casual links (in our view) between the huge number of shots now ‘required’ and an increase in many chronic conditions and an increase, or atleast high number of infant and toddler mortality when compared to countries who have far far fewer shots.
    Look at information on countries such as Japan and several Nordic/Scandanavian countries comparing their number of shots against their rates of mortality and chronic disease and there is a very clear sign that 34+ shots is NOT working in the US (some Scandanavian countries have 11 shots total and have not only lower cases of the infectious diseases themselves but also longer life expectancy, some of the lowest infant mortality rates and have some of the highest ratings by independant groups for overal standard of life from birth to death).
    Most other countries around the world have looked to the US for ways to improve their society/s and the US has been instrumental in leading the world in many ways, its now time for the US to do the same and stop being so arrogant in their thinking and fanatical belief of Allopathic medicine. Its time now to look at what works in other countries and copy from them for a change before its too late.
    We found some interesting results when searching for charts showing the number of deaths from infectious diseases against a timeline (we used the year 1900 onwards as a basic way of including several known epidemics aswell as giving vacinations a fair shake of the dice). Its funny how the CDC also uses a very similar method to ‘prove’ the effectivness of modern vaccination but they only show the graphs from around 5 years before the vaccine was introduced (so if a shot wasstarted in 1980 their chart of mortality wil only start generally from 1975). Looking at a bigger picture shows a VERY different story from the one the CDC tells. across the board pretty much, all infectious disease was dropping at a very constant and controlled level as the whole ’1st world’ developed better hygiene practices, better food/nutritional practices and generally began to better understand how thing effected the human body ad how to correct it themselves either prior during or after infection took place. The introduction of vaccines either did nothing at all dramatic, nothing at all, and in some cases actually increased the nmber of deaths from infectious disease sharply for a period before the rate ocne again fell back to a predictable pattern. (One such graph that is VERY easily ‘googled’ : .

    We decided after finding out that it is NOT mandatory to vaccinate in the US that we would stop shooting junk into our little girl (she has recieved a small number of shots only due to our own lack of education on the whole process :( ).
    Even though anecdotal evidence is not supported in the allopathic world our own exeperience is proof enough in the confirming of our research. Litte one here has only once had a cold in 2 years of life, well thats about it, infact that IS it one cold. Her cousin who was born a day before her has already had several ear infections, fevers, colds, snivles etc and is medicated following the mainstream allopathic manner. We breastfed up until lack of production shut the ‘factory’ down around the 18 month mark and have always fed a simple mostly whole food diet which is based around good organic (when we can get our hands on it) foods with very little meat of any type.
    Amazing as it may sound we are NOT anti vax. We are, however, pro education and firmly believe in retaining the ability to make decisions based on what we feel is best for our own following learnign everything we can from both pro and con sources.

    We have suffered from the forcefull nature of the US medical system just as many continue to suffer due to their close minded arrogance, we have been asked by dctors and nurses if we ‘want our child to die?!!’ simply because we refused the HepB vaccine at birth, we have been innundated by pamhlets and ‘crap’ left in our mail box telling us to get our daughter to the doctors office to get her shots done upto date both from the doctors themselves and the pharmeceuticle corporations.

    I’m not telling anyone to not get vaccinated, but to simply thouroughly research before hand loking at both sides of the argument and make an informed ecision based on your findings.

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      Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist December 6, 2010 at 8:08 pm

      Monkeyboy, congratulations on your ability to handle mental paradigm shifts and your choice to keep your mind open to things that perhaps go “against the grain” of what you’ve been taught for many years. Whenever we think that we have all the answers or that a certain approach is the end all, be all – we are most certainly in BIG trouble as has definitely happened with the barbaric vaccination schedule that the government and conventional medicine is trying to force down our throats.

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  213. Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

    Hi Sarah, you have such a great story to tell .. make sure you tell other Moms to help them avoid the pitfalls you have experienced and don’t ever look back, only forward. What you didn’t know you didn’t know and you can’t beat yourself up about it. Just make decisions as best you can with the information you have available and keep your mind open to paradigm shifts along the way. This seems exactly what you are already doing! :)

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  214. Sarah.. love your name, first of all. ;)
    I am so happy to have found your site. I have been through the gammut of “health trends” to heal myself and my children. I did raw, vegetarian, vegan, and the latest has been GFCF. Reading through Sally Fallon’s book.. I understand why my gut won’t tolerate wheat (or any grains for that matter) I am embarking on GAPS to heal and seal.. Yes! :)

    I was fully vaccinated as a child, but that was 25 years ago, so it wasn’t as harmful as the schedule of vaccines is now. My poor son was vaccinated until the age of 5.. he has asthma, eczema, migraines.. and my daughter was vaccinated later in life because we didn’t have insurance to pay for it. A blessing in disguise? She had a horrible reaction to a flu shot at 4 and I swore I would never give her another vaccine again. So we have been vaccine free for 6 years.. still hate that I didn’t know more back then. Both my kids are plagued with health problems because of vaccines.. I just went to the doc yesterday to get my son’s blood work done (for my own research) and I was so talked down to by the pedicatrician about how out of date he was on shots. She even tried the whole “he won’t get into 7th grade if you don’t vaccinate”.. Sickening…

    I’m praying a nourishing diet, with lots of CLO/BO and fermented foods will help heal the damage from vaccines? GAPS first of course. I also almost died after my daughter’s birth from a massive blood clot.. I was injected with massive doses of antibiotics, blood thinners (which they kept me on for 8 plus years before I finally had the courage to get off of them!!) and the like. It is a wonder I’m still here. God wants me here for a reason for sure. :) I am glad to know there are sites like yours that help explain all the lies our country has been believing for years. Any other advice for someone just starting the journey and a little bit overwhelmed?? ;) Thanks so much for all that you do!!

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    Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist November 30, 2010 at 10:28 pm

    Glad your children are healthy but know that the children of today are getting many many more vaccines than yours ever did and most are not faring well with it. I was vaccinated as a child but not until I was 8 years old. I do feel it has negatively impacted my health. I got a Tetanus booster to compete in college sports and had severe neuralgia pain for months as a result of it. Would never do it again and this was from one little shot and I was 19 years old. Vaccines are a barbaric way to address the problem of infectious disease. They will be gone within 2 decades (maybe less) and we will wonder as a society what in the world we were thinking injecting such poisons into babies.

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  216. I wrote to you yesterday about having to be vaccinated due to my Father being in the military and living in Africa as a child. My husband was also in the military and we have 3 children who are now grown. They were all vaccinated on schedule are are perfectly healthy and happy. My oldest daughter now has 2 children of her own they are 2 1/2 and 6 months old. They have been vaccinated according to schedule and are healthy too. My daughter’s husband is also in the military and if you do not vaccinate your children they will not accept them as patients at military medical clinics.
    Do you think that people living in foreign countries such as Ethiopia, where I spent a great majority of my childhood should not be vaccinated? Diseases such as yellow fever, cholera, hepatitis and malaria are rampant there. We took pills for the malaria like our servicemen serving overseas now do. They also have to get all their childhood shots over again to serve in Afghanistan and Iraq.
    I have never seen a list of the substances you claim are in vaccinations now. Where did you find this? Where do you get your information? Also as I stated yesterday, just think how things might be a little bit better for the people living in Haiti right now had they been vaccinated for cholera.
    I know many OLD veterans and they don’t suffer from Alzheimer’s Disease like you claim is the “Autism of Adults”, yet they took those immunizations to fight for our country. Yet my Grandmother who was never immunized died of it.
    What does your Father think about you not immunizing your children? Also were you immunized as a child? I’m guessing you were if your Father is a physician. Did you feel it negatively impacted your health. I know this is long but I really would like to know. Thanks

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    • “My daughter’s husband is also in the military and if you do not vaccinate your children they will not accept them as patients at military medical clinics.”

      This is not true. I do not vaccinate my children, my husband is currently active duty, and our children ARE seen at the military hospitals/clinics.

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      • @Darc My daughter and her husband are stationed at Little Rock AFB and they will not see your children at the medical clinic there if you do not vaccinate them. It must vary from service to service or something. I don’t know where you are stationed.

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          You’re wrong. We just PCS’d from Little Rock to Ohio with unvaxed kids. Little Rock AFB clinic treated my children just fine. Does not vary service to service. Tricare is Tricare is Tricare. We get dirty looks from time to time, and have requested a different doctor due to our assigned one being SO rude about it…but they’ve never refused to treat my children.

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  217. Lindsey, Nate, and Collin November 18, 2010 at 8:07 pm

    Wow, where to start. I have one, 7 month old child. I chose to not vaccinate in the beginning while I was still researching. I got alot of bad energy/comments from people all around me, but my Mom always sided with me. I am so glad that I continued to research and feel GREAT about my decision not to vaccinate. I have a husband that never researched this topic and always thought I would vaccinate our children. With the whooping Cough outbreak in California he started to feel uneasy about my decision. I heard from many of my friends that I was making the wrong decision. I do not care what others think, I only feel so SAD for those children that have to suffer! I am so glad that I stumbled upon your blog. This is what I needed to read to feel better about my decision and know that others feel the same as I do. What is weird- is that before I got pregnant, I always thought I would vaccinate. I never thought a second about it. As soon as I had the baby- I just knew that It was a bad thing for him and I never got the first shot in the hospital. I am so glad that I had the intuition/spiritual experience and that I listened to it. Please continue to blog about vaccinations as you find new info.. Thanks Lindsey

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  218. Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist November 16, 2010 at 1:03 pm

    There are homeopathic vaccines available in cases where a person has been bitten by a rabid animal. Rabies is not 100% fatal either .. I recently read an article about this very thing. There are other options available but most doctors do not talk about them as they want everyone to take the injection approach as this makes more money for Big Pharma and Big Pharma dictates medical school curriculum. Research and education is key for people who seek nontoxic alternatives to vaccines.

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  219. I saw as a child what devastation polio can do. I didn't have many vaccinations when I was a baby. Neither did my sister who suffered encephelitis after a bout of chickenpox. She almost died and has had some difficulty all of her life as a result. There are some exceptions to your rule that I would like you to consider. I know that we don't have it in this country anymore. In third world countries where disease is rampant, vaccination is necessary. These people don't have the nutritional advantage that we do. Their immune system is alrealdy compromised. Do you think that if someone has been bitten by a rabid animal should not get the vaccine? It is 100% fatal.

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  220. Great post!

    As an expectant mother I have spent many hours researching this topic, and many hours defending my stance on this. Recently I came across a fantastic source of information at vaccineriskawareness.com. There are many articles, and tons of research put nicely together in one place. I read the comments on your post, and I have also found that the `herd immunity` argument comes up a lot in my own discussions with people. Here is a wonderful article pointing out why the herd immunity theory is extremely flawed.

    http://vaccineriskawareness.com/The-Herd-Immunity-Theory-Treating-Our-Children-Like-Cattle

    Health and happiness to all!!

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  221. Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist October 18, 2010 at 3:38 pm

    I meant to say the THORN was 3-4 inches long and we have huge thorns on vines and other vegetation here in FL. It penetrated very deeply into his foot and definitely qualified as a puncture wound. I hope your day gets better!!

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  222. Back on May 25th, you made this comment: "My son had a thorn go 3 or 4 inches into his foot once." What kind of thorn is that long and did it go in sideways or up through the heel? 3 or 4 inches sounds like an exaggeration to me. Makes me wonder what else is exaggerated here.

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  223. Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist October 17, 2010 at 6:02 pm

    Maryn, thank you for sharing this story. I have to say that while I was reading it, I teared up. You are a very brave person.

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  224. I'm a mom to 2 boys (3 1/2 and 9 months). My 3 1/2 yo is vaccinated. I regret it! He has been through a gambit of illnesses. None of which has seen him to the hospital. Thank God! Ever time he was vaccinated, from infant hood on, he would go into a deep sleep right after and then run fevers that would range from 102 to 104. I was appalled! After his last vaccination at 11 months he contracted pneumonia. Its been a respiratory fight, since. On the other hand, my 9 month old baby has never been touched by a needle and has only had a slight cold, so far.

    I based my second child's lack of vaccines off of instinct first. I've been educating myself since. I don't feel that I need a better reason but I have to "fight off" the rest of the mainstreamers like my mother! Gah!

    When I was a little girl, just hitting puberty, I started to break out in a head to toe rash. A toxic reaction, said the Dr's but could never diagnose it. It was a horrible teenage-hood. It would start with being generally sick so I would take something for it. Tylenol, Ibuprofen, ect. Within 12 hours, I would be very serverly sick and break out in a sunburn type rash head to toe. It burned to where I couldn't move without agony and my whole body, inside and out, ached something fierce. I would have a high grade fever with it, at first. After a couple of days, the rash would start to itch. I can't explain the severity of the itch except I would writhe and squirm in agony. If I scratched it, it would increase the itch 10 fold. Then, after a few days of that all the affected skin would peel off. The whole ordeal would last a month or so.

    I broke out about 15 times from age 13-20. The docs never could help. I was seen primarily at Children's Hospital. No medicine could counter the rash, once it began. My best medicine was no medicine. When I was about 18, I realized that when I got a sinus infection or cold, if I didn't take any medicine, I wouldn't break out. Its worked ever since.

    I don't know what I had/have. I don't know that it matters anymore. I do blame it on medicine, in general. Vaccines too. I got my teenage round of vaccines right before breaking out for the first time, I do know that. The worst part was when the doctors started looking at my "mental state" for answers. Thinking that I must be doing it to myself, somehow! Can you believe that?! To say the least, and over the years, I've come to realize that that is why doc's offices are called "practices"! They don't know all and the definetly don't know ME better than I do.

    I haven't taken as much as a tylenol for over 12 years. Its an amazing freedom to realize that humans DON'T need medicine to counter everyday aches and pains. There are a TON of better ways.

    So that is what leads me down this road of natural living. I can't have medicine. Now that I'm a mom, I can't risk another break-out. I don't have the liberty of being in bed, invalid, for a solid week or more to go along with the mental hit that I would take.

    I had natural births with both my sons. No vitamin K injections, no vaccines, no eye goop. I eat with out/very little perservatives, additives, or colors in my food. I don't put chemicals in my body, on my body, or around our bodies. I have a deep faith that you shouldn't mess with nature to try to make it "better".

    Sorry for the ramble. I love all the responses to this. A great read, for sure!

    ~Maryn (Firefifghter/EMT/Mom)

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    • Almost my story to a TEEEEEEEEEEE. Thank you for writing that!!! Just as Sarah said below me, I almost teared up too. Thank you thank you thank you!!!

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  225. I haven't read all the comments, but this is an excellent post!! I stopped vaccinating my son after 6 months due to a bad site-reaction. I did my research after that (previously, I just did it because I thought "the doctors wouldn't do anything to harm my child, would they?") and was blown away at the sh*t they were so eager to shoot into my son's veins! A pharmaceutical Meth, if you will.

    One point you brought up that I never thought of though, is the fact that unvaxed children are always healthier than vaxed children. I've just sat here for about 5 minutes thinking of all my friends children, and my own, and they've all had 3x the sicknesses of my children. Very good point, a study should definitely be done!

    One thing that hit home shortly after we made the decision to not vaccinate, was a recalled vaccine (I can't think of it now…). I just thought "How can you recall a vaccine?? It's already causing damage, it's already injected into the fragile bodies, you can't just return it to the store for a refund…"

    I am sharing this with everyone I know!! This is excellent!

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  226. Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist October 16, 2010 at 11:45 pm

    Hi Carla, I also had a reaction to a tetanus booster when I was 19 years old. I got it because I "had to" get it in order to compete in college sports. Within a day or two, I couldn't breathe deeply without terrible pain. My arm where the shot was injected couldn't even be lifted for a week or two. My Father (MD) told me that I had a virus in the nerve that runs though my lung cavity. It took months for this pain to subside and for me to be able to breathe normally again. Giving this poison to a child? Absolutely nuts.

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  227. I am very anti-vaccination. My DS had one set and DD never had any. DD is the healthiest of the two. DS has lots of allergies, has many of the symptoms of aspergers and is more prone to get sick (he was hospitalized with H1N1 during the epidemic last year; I held him almost the whole time he was sick and I didn't get it while everyone else had to suit up to even enter the room). I nursed them both until they were 4.5 years old, which I feel helped boost their health. We are in the process of changing our diet because I know that is key in optimal health.

    After doing tons of research, the final deciding factor was when DS was about a year old, I had an ear infection. I was given a tetanus booster pretty much against my will and I had a bad reaction. It took about 5 years for me to be able to normally use my arm and nearly 7 years later, I still have pain at the injection site. This was the final deciding factor in my kids not getting vax's. If it does that to me, what would it do to the precious little bodies of my sweet innocent children? No thank you!

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  228. Thanks so much for this post. I have learned much from the comments. In the process of reading the Boston Review article now- so illuminating. As a healthcare professional myself, I have seen firsthand in my own education and work that drugs, vaccines, and products are just accepted without question by most of the staff and patients. I have yet to meet a doctor or nurse who has a deep understanding of the pros and cons to vaccines and can effectively talk clients through their risks and potential benefits. Most aren't even aware of the ingredients or potential side effects or how to strengthen the immune system so people can ward off disease or recover from it without serious comlications.

    I also agree about not using anecdotal evidence to make decisions with or to convince others, but I have also seen it in my own children. The first was fully vaccinated until age 3 and had every illness in the book and was constantly sick. His whole baby and toddlerhood is basically a blur of one horrible illness after another, no sleep, miserable child. When we stopped vacinating at age 3 and began a more whole foods/WAP style of eating he became a different child. My second has only had 3 shots, was also breastfed well into toddlerhood and is the healthiest kid I know. He almost never gets sick, and when he does, he gets a fever, sleeps it off, and wakes up fine. I am doing minimal vaccines for my third as well, plus nursing for as long as possible and eating the best possible diet.

    I am not anti-vaccine, but very pro being educated on vaccines and drugs, and being able to choose the scenario that best fits your individual children, whether it's none, some, or all shots. And sadly, this rarely happens and parents who deviate at all from the standard schedule are kicked out of practices, threatened with scare tactics, and overal villified and treated like they wish to harm their children for making an informed choice. AGain, it's anecdotal, but every non or selectively vaccinating parent I have met has spent many hours doing serious research, and I have yet to meet a fully vaccinating parent who has done exhaustive research and can tell you about the diseases and what ingredients are in the shots and what research has been done (or not) to prove thier safety.

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  229. What about parents, like myself, who are on government assistance and have doctors who threaten to not treat the child (as has been the trend) because they pose a "risk" to other patients due to not vaccinating them? It seems to me that being an informed parent who takes control is something reserved for those who are a bit more well-off, while those of us who have fallen on hard times, but still want to maintain a healthy lifestyle have virtually no choice. Government assisted medical insurance comes with lots of rules about primary dr's and the like. We are unable to ONLY buy organic or stock our home with essential oils, which can be QUITE expensive. What do you recommend in situations such as these? I've done research and I know that children born and/or raised under these conditions are FAR more prone to things like asthma, ADD, diabetes and so on.

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    • My children are also on state assisted healthcare. I have never vaccincated any of them, we have four, and another on the way :) My children are very healthy, rarely sick, I think my 6 year old has only had the flu twice in his life. I also do not take my children to regular check-ups, as I don’t want to have to deal with the guilt they will try to put on me for our decisions. If they get any sickness, we use natural cures. We have a wonderful health store in our town that always has great advice and her products are wonderful. If there was ever a time my children were extremely sick, and it was necessary that they be taken to the hospital, the medical professionals there cannot refuse to see them due to them not being vaccinated.
      I guess what I am saying is, if there is a doc that is refusing to see your children, then he/she is not worth seeing either. As far as eating habits, we struggle with that too. We by no means have a perfect eating lifestyle, and I really have no idea how to help there. Organic is ridiculously expensive! If you discover a good alternative to that one, I’d love to hear it!

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      • Erin! You are a smart mom! Those regular “check ups” “well baby” well child” check ups are nothing else, just vaccine selling sessions. If a child is “well” no nee to be seen by doctors, just because insurance pays the doctors if they see a patient.
        In fact this whole illness industry is a big political and business deception, in which the role of “health care” is far far over represented. The health and well being of a population is mainly and predominantly depends on the life style, mode of existence of it’s people, and not on a costly health care establishment. People of Armenia, or Georgia do have years longer average life expectancy than people in the US, with minimum institutional health care, Cuban babies do have 1 year longer life expectancy at birth than american babies. And I don’t even mention the Mediterranian countries, where healthcare is available, but 80-100 year old are still running around vigorosly, don’t stay in hospitals with tubes hanging out of them… and parents dont really bother with check ups either. Ironically, people who don’t visit doctors offices are becoming far more healthier than those who do routine visits , participate in “prevention” programs, which are rather early detection or often false detection programs.

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    • I have been in the same boat too. What you do is the best you can (this topic is my passion) starting with only go the MD when you HAVE to, not necessarily when they tell you to. Our pediatrician asked why she hadn’t seen us in a couple of years and I told her, 1-my son doesn’t get sick that often (he wasn’t in day care or school) and 2-if he does get a cold, I check his ears (an otoscope cost about $10); if they aren’t red it is a virus and antibiotics don’t help viruses. Her reply “Smart Woman”. I don’t need to pay a ten dollar co-pay to be told wait it out. You can still shop around for a doctor; it may take time but you can find one. You may have to flat out say, “Even if you don’t agree with my decision will you at least agree that it is MY decision not yours?”

      One thing inexpensive I did was feed him yogurt everyday with a couple of supplements mixed in. also google Dr. Parcells oxygen soak for meat and produce you get that aren’t organic; it won’t make them organic, but it will get rid of pesticides. Take the money from the packaged process foods and use it for as much whole food as you can. In our area, children that are in the WIC program get vouchers for the Farmers’ Market in the summer – ask around. Some community centers have group gardens where if you work you share the harvest. You can grow fresh sprouts in your kitchen for under a dollar; if they don’t like eating them you can blend them in a smoothie. Look up the Clean 15 and the Dirty Dozen; just eat the clean 15 if you can’t get organic – and do Dr. Parcell’s soak. Try to soak your grains, like brown rice or oats, a few hours or overnight. Longer is better, but even a few hours increases the nutrition. (should clarify – grains are soaked in water and lemon juice or other acid, NOT the Dr. Parcell soak)

      Drink water and decaf green or herbal teas and skip the other beverages. (Save for a good water filter, not a Brita or Pur, and use it for drinking and cooking.) Get books from the library and read blogs that feature traditional foods and add what you can.

      I wish you health and success
      DavetteB\’s last post: Welcome to My Home on the Web!

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  230. I am a mother of four children. (Ages 15 months to 8 years). I chose to Homebirth my children and only allowed the three month shots to be given to our eldest son, before realizing that I not only hated the way they were given (baby on table held down and forced, screaming all the way! I had even tried to do it while nursing him, I had read that babies dealt better with blood draws while being nursed, I was denied that ability), but then researched and found only a small amount about the possible problems and decided NOT to do any more vaccines.
    I have to say that I do notice that my children, overall, seem to be sick less often (especially when it comes to ear infections! I have seen many friends with children who were vaccinated with double ear infections that were a constant problem! We have had maybe 2 ear infections in our home in 8 years)
    We get hit, MAYBE once or twice a year with a more than bothersome infection…and the occasional cold about as often. All my children are healthy and I agree, if there is some reason to vaccinate later, maybe we will, but later is better. Thank you Sarah for your article.

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  231. Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist October 9, 2010 at 11:38 am

    Hi Stephanie, please email me directly with these local and state questions and I will be happy to answer them. Thanks!

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  232. I have recently become educated on this and other health issues like this. I am in the infant stages of research and am trying to find a pediatrician I can go to that is not afraid to step outside the "medically required" boundaries of treatment and/or vaccinations. I found a Dr. Berger right by me in North Tampa, but the costs are more than I can afford. Do you know of anyone else? Also, if you do not stay on the "recommended vaccination schedule" what do you do with the forms you are required to turn in for schools? Thank you! I look forward to learning a lot from you and others.

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  233. Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist October 8, 2010 at 12:18 pm

    Elaine, here is a comment from Sally Fallon, President of the WAPF .. I posed your question to our WAPFChapterLeader Forum:

    "I remember meeting a lady who developed Gilliam Barre and severe chronic
    fatigue after taking a bunch of vaccinations for a trip–she was never right
    afterwards. We have a chapter leader who had the same experience. Don't do
    it! Don't do it! Don't do it!" Sally

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  234. I've never heard of homeopathic vaccinations – thanks for mentioning them. I'll go look into that right now. I live in the greater metro Atlanta area and it is (sadly) appalling how few "natural" type doctors/dentists there are in this entire area! Hopefully we can find one in Georgia! (not joking) Thanks so much for your help with this.

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  235. Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist October 7, 2010 at 3:07 am

    Hi Elaine, what about homeopathic vaccinations? This may be an excellent alternative for her. I do not know how accurate the CDC information on its website is for these third world diseases. You would need to find a well versed homeopath in your area. Health must be sustained via good nutrition and when the nutrition is not there, health declines very rapidly so if she can't take any FLCO/BO with her and the food is not of great quality, then she will be susceptible even if she is in great health when she leaves which is why I suggest the homeopathic route.

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      • They aremore common in Europe, especially in Germany. There are many pharmacies who specialize only in homeopatic meds opposed to allopatic ones. My daughter who was also in Europe when at elementaryschool, was not vaccinated, but a few classmates, also children of medical daughters if vaccinated were vaccinated by homeopatic vaccines.

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  236. me again- my mind is still working on this :)
    Also – what do you suggest (besides prayer) we do if she contracts one of these horrific diseases (aforementioned lack of medical care, lack of space for herbs, etc). I don't even know who to believe anymore – are the stats that the CDC website publishes about the mortality rate accurate? Yellow fever, typhoid, malaria, Hep A & B, tetnus to name a few. We were trying to just weed out the absolutely non-essential ones but it's hard to know which ones those are. In the end are you of the mindset that statistically her chances of contracting any of these are smaller than the chances of the vaccines causing health problems? And, if she should contract something – what? is her immune system strong enough to fight it off?? She's relatively healthy but she did get a nasty bug (we assume bad water/parasite) in Peru in June so she's obviously susceptible to things. Sorry to bother you with this but you seem very knowledgeable about this and I'm still wading through so much information : /

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  237. Sarah – I so appreciate you taking the time to respond to the (many!) comments I post on the various topics. One of the things we have to consider is that she is basically backpacking with *very* little space and this is for 5 months. I would love to send her off with a 5 month supply of CLO/butter oil and a couple of our favorite herbs but I'm not even sure she could travel with them. This is not a pleasure trip but a mission trip to some pretty remote areas. We've talked about the possibility of sending packages ahead of her but found out that it isn't feasible. You are so smart and seem to think outside of the box – any suggestions would be much appreciated. Thanks!!

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  238. Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist October 6, 2010 at 12:04 pm

    Elaine, this is a very difficult decision for your daughter I am sure. It is obviously something she will have to decide for herself. All I can tell you is that if I were going, I wouldn't get any of the shots. I would take a plentiful supply of fermented cod liver oil and butter oil with me and use them liberally everyday to keep immunity high. One thing is for certain, if she gets that long list of shots, her health will very likely never be the same again.

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    • You cannot be “certain” of that… it will just as likely be the same to be honest…. I received most on that list, as did over a hundred people I worked with, with no change to our current health status. Vaccines for adults aren’t nearly as scary as you think.

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  239. This is one of our hot buttons right now … our 22yo daughter is leaving in January for a 5 month mission trip to India, Cambodia and Thailand. The list of vaccines is staggering. We have already spent a couple of days poring over the CDC website of what the "at risk" areas are for the various diseases (all 3 countries are high risk for everything!). When my first 2 were little I vaccinated out of ignorance (and the fact that my mom is a public health nurse and I had no idea that you didn't vaccinate) – so she had the full round of everything until she was a teen.

    This is unbelievably hard because she will be so far away, in rural areas with little to no health care available if she should contract something. If it were here in the States and we were faced with this decision it wouldn't be an issue – I have access to medical care IF I needed it, I have access to herbs and drugs, if necessary. I would appreciate any input! Thanks~

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  240. To Josiah – as a former manager, I recommend that you research your rights and be in contact with your doctor and the HR dept where you work. HR depts are not usually able to argue against a doctor's word, so if you can get it on file that vaccines would aggravate or complicate your existing conditions, you may be able to get out of some vaccinations. Make sure you know what your rights are – you almost always have more than your managers and HR people will admit to – but if they know that you know them, the game changes fast! Unfortunately, however, there are still currently professions in which people have no choice but to put their health on the line and by getting vaccinated – my husband is in the Air Force and an act of God wouldn't stop them from shooting him full of every vaccine that comes out. We continue to search for a way to counter that, focusing in the meantime on a real food diet and all around very healthy and clean living.

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  241. I am also one of the lucky ones who never vaxxed and 2 ppl I know who spend a lot of time with me and my kids swear that I would have had an autistic child on my hands had I vaxxed my 2nd son. He displays some characteristics but isnt too bad, we know he would have had a bad reaction.
    Sarah, your responses to the naysayers were gold, scholarly evidence is worth naught in my opinion, as they can make conclusions slanted to whichever way they want, scientists seem to have become big pharmas puppets these days.
    I also guarantee that the paediatrician doesnt see as wide a variety of parents as she would like to think as usually ppl who lead an alternative lifestyle and dont vaccinate, would generally not go anywhere near a paed. I certainly havent seen a dr for a good 5 yrs and my kids have maybe seen a dr a couple of times in their whole lives!
    Thank you for this post, I will be recommending it to my friends x

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  242. What would you say to someone who is about to start a career in the health care community and as such will be required to be fully vaccinated? I'm about to start on my LVN and will soon need an update on my list of vaccinations. I received most of my vaccinations as a child and now suffer from chronic psoriasis, staph infections, and some sort of digestive disorder that stemmed from the array of antibiotic prescriptions i was given for the staph 2 yrs ago.

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    • If you truly believe some of the twisted logic being spewed on this blog, I hope you never enter the health care community.

      Last thing we need are people like you talking directly to patients in the office.

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      • Your choice of alias is ironical since “reality” is what you seem to be lacking.

        I had an arrogant know-it-all Doctor peddling his snake oil a few years back. I stopped him short and explained, slowly so he could keep up, how dangerous this toxic poison called vaccines really was. He called in his nurse too who also attempted, rather rudely, to chastise me. I asked them a number of vaccine related questions, not of which they could answer, and got them to both admit how little they knew.

        Since a lay member of the public,me, had left two supposedly well trained medical professionals red faces and confused, I asked them when leaving how it is they can peddle vaccines on unsuspecting patients when they themselves clearly knew nothing on the topic, I just got the shoulder shrug.

        I received a letter a short time later explaining that I had been argumentative and abusive and was no longer welcome at the practice – hahaha what a joke, in fact “joke” is exactly how I would sum up this whole debate. Medical staff have no to little training on the very toxins they are pushing on to their patients. I think some accountability is in order and those responsible for peddling this filth should be publicly flogged (OK may be a bit harsh) but then again it is the lives of our children and future generations we are talking about.

        I have no doubt in a 100 years people will look back with disgust and horror knowing that we willfully injected this garbage in to our children.

        “Anyone who claims peer-reviewed research is rigorous has some kind of delusional faith that humans aren’t human.”

        http://joannenova.com.au/2013/02/peer-review-failure-science-and-nature-journals-reject-papers-because-they-have-to-be-wrong/

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  243. My children aren't vaccinated. In their first year, they tend to get a lot of little colds but recover fairly quickly. Then they don't get sick (recently, EVERYONE in our house got a minor cold — except my 2.5 YO daughter). We also eat NT, practice extended breastfeeding (both kids are still breastfeeding) etc. which of course helps.

    But knowing everything I do about vaccines…NEVER EVER EVER.

    My kids even suffered, for awhile, from some eczema and allergies, but we cured it through GAPS and NT. They can eat almost anything now with no problems.

    When my daughter was about 18 months, we had some blood work done. Her ped, who specializes in kids with autism and allergies, said that her blood work came back looking like a child on the spectrum — low in B12, glutathione, etc. Dangerously low. This was despite eating plenty of grass-fed beef and other healthy foods and not taking any medication or vaccines. We spent months and months, eventually on our own, working with her diet and nutrition to help her. She is pretty much normal now, finally. And I know, in my heart of hearts, had I vaccinated her, that she would have had autism now….

    Thankfully, I'm one of the "lucky" ones. I did my research before it was too late and I saved my daughter.

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    • Can you explain the science here in which you somehow prevented autism ? The rest of the world would love to know what causes autism. As you seem to know can you share with us ?

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      • Tensof thousands of parents of autistic children will tell you that vaccines have caused their child’s autism… I have several friends that have autistic (most of them on the severe side) children who will state flat out that vaccines were the cause. These friends are all educated..among them are doctors, veterinarians, scientists, business owners etc. Not onenofnthem buys into he media message that there is no link.

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  244. Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist June 13, 2010 at 12:48 pm

    That's an excellent point and thank you for posting that point. Nonvaccinated children are frequently star athletes as vaccines are known to interfere with gross motor coordination and balance. I can't remember where I read this (probably Dr. Sherri Tenpenny's website). Hence, unvaccinated children definitely have an advantage on the sporting pitch.

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    • I have to say your comment is hilarious. So you’re saying that most of the professional and collegiate athletes today owe their talent to being un-vaccinated? Definitely not to their God-given talent, genetics, diligence, and practice. Again, your replies to comments turns me away from ANYTHING you would have to say.
      Betty\’s last post: From November

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    • Sorry I’m late to the party. I just stumbled upon your blog and I’ve been thoughtfully perusing through the comments section for the better part of an hour. Sarah, I commend your strong stance in your convictions. But, my God, you’re an idiot!

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  245. I'm 38 years old and have never had a vaccine. None of my 5 siblings, my dad, his two sisters, and their children ever did either.

    I remember my mom saying numerous times after parent teacher conferences that teachers told her she had such good looking children. We were so healthy and vibrant, and probably the only unvaccinated children in the school district at that time (70's and 80's). In sports, 5 of us went to state 16 times!! And we had several more near misses. We were never sick.

    My grand father was drafted in WWII and was used as a guinea pig, as are all veterans (Gulf War disabilities from the anthrax vaccine as a recent example)so would not allow his children to be vaccinated. He died at 56 years old from cancer, which he swore was from the vaccines. A LOT of other vets in our area died at young ages from cancer, too.

    We know hundreds of non vaccinated children. No ADD, autism, sickness, etc. There is a difference, as you point out.

    Vaccines have caused so much suffering and death. How can the pediatrician live with her self with that???

    keep up the great work Sarah, children's lives depend on it.

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    • With all due respect to your grandfather, and I’m sorry for your loss… the WWII vets were also exposed to much radiation, as they were doing nuclear testing at the time, mustard gas exposure, exposure to DDT, they were vaccinated against yellow fever, cholera, influenza, typhoid, tetanus… etc. which dropped the death rate among those diseases. But were contracting tuberculosis, hepatitis, rheumatic fever and such that they did not have a vaccine for yet, those caused a large amount of death or permanent disabilities. They were experimenting with a lot of new chemicals during that time, so it’s hard to say what they were exposed to exactly.

      Some vets of the Vietnam war were eating C4 (an explosive compound) to escape reality, they are now suffering from ailments such as cancer. Not to mention their exposure to Agent Orange that has been a proven carcinogen.

      The Gulf War vets were exposed to way more than just vaccines, and those with disabilities have not been conclusively linked to the anthrax vaccine. They were victims of nerve gas, depleted uranium, toxic fumes from oil fires, pesticides… etc. Vets in the Gulf War are still noted as being a distinctly different bunch due to the fact that they have been sick since they came home with no signs of recovery. They must have been exposed to much more than just vaccines, in which every other vet has been exposed to since then, such as myself.

      So I disagree that it is the main reason so many vets are getting sick at young ages.

      And diseases have caused so much suffering and death also… In children all over the world. It’s a toss up as to who has the better point. There are risks to both sides, but it would be irresponsible of me to let you point out the possible cancer risk of vaccines in your grandfather without playing devil’s advocate about the other possibilities as well. A decision should not be based on a one-sided debate.

      I know a non-vaccinated child who developed Autism around 2 years old. He has a tree-hugger mom who buys only organic and doesn’t use chemicals in her home, she’s a wonderful person to be around, very positive and involved. So there’s no blanket prevention.

      I don’t know if I even believe ADD is the epidemic that people make it out to be anyway, I believe it’s more of a failure to thrive in a cultural standard, as we are all built different. ADD symptoms in the days of my grandparents were considered normal, just those kids were better suited for other activities than the ones who liked to read books and sit quietly in class.

      I don’t mean to blast you with my reply, I just think the point needs to be made that anything that is said about non-vac can be countered with a pro-vac comment, so why not draw info from both sides to make a truly informed decision?

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  246. Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist June 12, 2010 at 1:52 pm

    In response to the anonymous pediatrician .. with all due respect – Big Pharma OWNS the medical schools. Big Pharma gives the majority of money, grants etc to medical schools in exchange for dominating the curriculum and research. Medicine as practiced by conventional MDs is no longer independent. A doctor is not free to practice medicine in the manner my Father did because of fear of retribution from the AMA that his actions didn't follow "guidelines."

    Just think what would happen if you decided not to vaccinate children tomorrow. You know that you would be ostracized and probably censured or worse from the American Academy of Pediatrics. You are controlled by Big Pharma everyday you walk into your office and this manipulation started the very first day you started medical school.

    You say that you couldn't live with yourself if one child got Hib, but what about all the other children that are DOOMED to a lifetime of autoimmune, chronic disease from getting vaccinations that you recommend?

    It simply makes no sense to trade the very small risk of infectious disease for the huge risk of lifelong autoimmune disease by choosing to get vaccinated. An increasing number of parents are waking up to this fact which is why you are getting more and more resistance to shots in your office.

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    • How in one breath can you say that Dr’s know nothing about the drugs/vaccines they are giving, then in another claim that the pharm. companies own every single medical school? It can’t be both ways.

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      • With all “due” respect, CMWmd – - – That made ZERO sense. What the heck are you even talking about? The 2 things you mentioned are 2 separate things! DUH ((shaking head slowly back and forth… back and forth…))

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  247. Hi, Sarah. I have to disagree with you when you say that drug companies own the curriculum in medical schools. As a pediatrician who obviously went through medical school, I can say with certainty that is not true. Big pharma is definitely present in some practices, and medical students are exposed to it during their schooling, but it is not the overriding feature or guiding light of either.

    In addition, as a pediatrician and as a mother, I believe I have very broad exposure to a variety of different children/parenting styles and choices, etc. My own children have been fully vaccinated and are very healthy. Frankly, I would not have it any other way. Many of the diseases/conditions that we vaccinate against are not terribly common (in part because of of effective vaccination programs through the years), but I could not live with myself if *my* child were to be the one who developed meningitis secondary to a Hib infection. . . if *my* child developed debilitating consequences after contracting polio. But I digress.

    My children are healthy. Many of my patients who are fully vaccinated are very healthy children as well (ie do not experience recurrent cough/cold, do not have chronic diseases or chronic issues with allergies). Some obviously have these conditions. On the flip side, some of my patients who are NOT vaccinated have chronic conditions as well. Some have even developed the conditions that the vaccines would likely have prevented. But, like the group that's vaccinated, most are very healthy.

    A patient's mother asked me about some of the things that she's read on your site, which is how I came to find your blog. As I read several sections, it seems to me that many of your opinions are based on your experiences with your children. While I respect that, your children (and their friends) are a relatively small population.

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    • I couldn’t live with myself if any of my children became ill, disabled or died as a result of an artificial lowering of their natural immunity. My children are healthier than many of their friends, and even moreso because we homeschool … but I digress also.

      If any of my children became ill from a “vaccine preventable” disease, at least their immunity is strong enough to give it a good fight, and if perchance, it was fatal, at least I know that I gave my children the absolute best fighting chance they could have had!

      I have had parents say to me that they would never let their (vaccinated) children play with unvaxed kids, and as they never openly asked me whether or not mine were (they just assumed they were vaxed) I never volunteered information that would end friendships. And for two years, while their kids caught everything they were vaccinated against, my kids remained healthy, and I was considered “lucky” that mine didn’t “catch it”. BUT I also made a conscious decision to avoid meetings when I knew their kids were due for shots.

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  248. Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist June 12, 2010 at 12:33 am

    Hi Eereena, I think you are a bit naive if you are studying infectious disease at a graduate level and think that the drug companies don't have a hand in every single grant that is given at your institution. The drug companies own the curriculum in medical schools, for example. They want newly minted doctors to walk to the beat of their drum.

    If you had children I think you would be more open minded about the other side of the issue. Children seem to have this effect on most mothers especially when their friends are having babies with nothing but problems and the question arises again and again – could vaccination have caused the problems?

    As to whether or not I am trustworthy, that is up to you to decide. I have no desire to convince you of anything. This blog is for those who seek knowledge outside the mainstream, not for those stuck in convention and towing the party line.

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  249. Sarah, you are correct, I do not have children. However, I am currently studying infectious disease control on a graduate level, and the institution I attend is by no means at the mercy of pharmaceutical companies, nor are the journal articles published there.

    In fact, journals such as AMA, BMJ, and the Lancet are peer-reviews, by which means they go through a process of evaluation involving qualified individuals (PhDs, MDs). Peer-reviewing exists to maintain standards, improve performance, and provide credibility.

    To be frank, I'm really not sure what other sources are trust-worthy. Are you?

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  250. Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist June 11, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    Hi Eereena, if you look at one of the comments above, a book by Dr. Mayer Eisenstein called "Make an Informed Vacine Decision, A Parent's Guide to Childhood Shots" has a study in it comparing vaccinated to unvaccinated children. As clearly stated in my blog, I haven't seen such a study but one reader pointed this out in the comments section which was great. I don't cite studies such as you suggested as studies in these types of journals are controlled and manipulated by the pharmaceutical companies and are useless as points of reference. Anyone with 2 eyes who can see can easily observe the health of vaccinated versus unvaccinated children. I am assuming you do not have young children and as such, do not see what I see everyday around me. I don't need a study to state the obvious. I simply ask Mothers and Fathers to open their eyes and not rely on the advice of their physicians who most likely have their opinions recited to them directly from the AMA or APA.

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  251. Eereena Rozeena June 11, 2010 at 9:12 pm

    Hi Sarah,
    I'd like to see some scholarly evidence in support of the points you just made. Do you have access to an epidemiological study conducted that showed vaccinated children are unhealthier than unvaccinated children? I've clicked on a few of the links you've shared in your article, and I'm finding a difficult time finding a peer-reviewed citation anywhere in support of those claims.

    A parent's decision to vaccinate a child should be based on trust between the doctor and parent, and published/peer-reviewed evidence. In case you're at a loss as to where to find such articles, I recommend the Lancet, the American Academy of Pediatrics, and British Medical Journal to name a few.

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  252. I bet your OB never told you that the flu shot is actually not supposed to be given to pregnant women yet in most offices it is highly recommended. The flu shot is one vaccine that still contains measurable amounts of thimerisol which passes the placental barrier and settles into nuerological tissue at the earliest stages of your babies brain developement. This insult is then perpetuated at birth by giving the Hep B vaccine. Did you know that pharmacuetical companies are protected from lawsuits due to vaccine injury. Did you also know that vaccines have never undergone double blind studies which is the standard before releasing any drug to market. Our tax dollars fund the Vaccine Injury fund and drug companies aren't held responsible for hot batches. Vaccine injury is severely under reported because doctors will not acknowledge the injury could be related and parents don't report because they have enough to handle just dealing with their child who was injured

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  253. all great information. Problem with the H1Ni stats is they are skewed. The clumped deaths in the stats that were confirmed to definitely not be H1N1. My friend was reported to be the first in our county to die from H1N1 problem was they confirmed on two occasions that she did not have it and that she had pneumonia. Never trust what you are told. Go to the CDC website read what the vaccines are designed to prevent. See if the bacteria can be treated with antibiotics, is it a virus that is self limiting (last 5-7 days), does breast feeding protect against it??? For anyone that cares if you need well baby visits and are waiting on vaccines go to a good pediatric chiropractor icpa4kids.com to find one in your area. Oh yeah, fevers are the way your body fights disease if you keep giving children motrine or tylenol as soon as they get a fever they can't fight the disease—let the fever hang out for a while, it is not abnormal for children to run 104 fever (ask your parents)

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    • I wish people would be more open to the fact that there are severe cases on both sides… The people having permanent damage from the vaccines, and the ones with permanent damage from the disease. There are substantial stories on both ends.

      I personally know a girl who slipped into a coma early in her pregnancy due to Swine Flu which she wasn’t vaccinated against, as it was still new. It was absolutely confirmed that is what she had. They had to do a c-section with her sitting upright (otherwise she stopped breathing) while still in a coma because her daughter was dying inside of her. It’s just horrible.

      Or the mother (I think she was on this blog somewhere) that said they got the 5mo shots for her infant, the next morning found her/him laying in a pool of bloody foam. The autopsy called it a SIDS death?

      Or the people I know who contracted Anthrax and Smallpox and survived because they were vaccinated.

      There are arguments on either side that are real stories that really happen, and there are a million factors that contribute to the outcome… so why call people ignorant? Was it ignorant of my buddies for getting a vaccine that saved their life? Or was it ignorant of the mother to give her baby the vaccine that may have killed him? How can you judge people when even with all the science and philosophy in the world, we still can not see into the future? Science is not exact, people still lie for money, holistic measures don’t protect against everything, people still make claims based on “logic” which isn’t always logical even if it makes sense, research about non-vac/pro-vac is still research believing someone else’s science on the subject matter. Unless you are basing strictly off of personal experience, then it’s even on both sides, because for every one horror story in favor of a side, there’s another contradicting it. How can you call someone ignorant on either end, when getting the vaccine, refraining from it all together or delaying it still can NOT guarantee a good outcome, and each come with a risk of a bad one?

      Side note: An observation I made while in the desert of people who got the smallpox vaccine… The people who were receiving their second round, due to having it too long ago (I believe it was when they were small, like in the 60′s or prior, not sure), even though they received TWICE the amount of skin scrapes with the vaccine this second round, their vaccine site actually healed faster than those of us getting it for the first time, only 6 (half the amount) scrapes. The majority of us were extremely healthy adults, and the majority of the ones who were getting it for a second time were much older, most of them drank alcohol regularly, and most of them were smokers. I’m not even trying to prove a point, I just remember being jealous that their site healed up days sooner than ours. We had to walk around with that nasty bubble of fluid on our arms, being careful not to bump, or touch it and then rub our eye… bleh! I just wonder if it had to do with a slight immunity they had to it, like their body was able to efficiently fight it due to their prior vaccination. If that’s the case, then it would mean the difference between some nasty scars or death. Again, this is ONLY an observation, and I do not discredit the events of things happening to children the days after getting a vaccine. (Though I question the relation of things happening to kids MONTHS after getting the vaccine – Autism can show up in later years, even in non-vaccinated kids, so to me, it’s inconclusive.)

      I would be weary of giving newborns vaccinations, but I’m not sure the idea of choosing never to vaccinate is a wise choice either.

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  254. I don't necessarily disagree that many of the vaccinated kids I've encountered are less healthy compared to their unvaccinated friends, however, I would never make a decision to vaccinate or not based on anecdotal evidence such as this. The argument could easily be made that the reason those children who are unvaccinated are healthier is also because their parents are more education and informed on other issues of health and nutrition which the average vaccinating parent is not interested in. For example, most of the vaccinated children I know do not have parents nursing them beyond a year, giving them raw milk, cod liver oil, letting them play in the dirt etc. I don't think we can attribute the overall perceived better health of unvaccinated kids solely on the fact that they are unvaccinated. Just thought I would point this out. I have some other thoughts and while we are not vaccinating for some things (we travel and do not feel comfortable not vaccinating for other things) I think we must think very critically about this topic and the information as its presented.

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    • “The argument could easily be made that the reason those children who are unvaccinated are healthier is also because their parents are more educated and informed on other issues of health and nutrition which the average vaccinating parent is not interested in.”

      Excellent point Jenny….well said. My vaccinated children are all adults now, and while I would certainly lean against vaccinations knowing what we know today, they were VERY healthy children growing up….. rarely sick and when they did fall ill, recovered quickly. Stick to the facts, they are scary enough without embellishment.
      Maureen\’s last post: No Sweetie- we Cannot get ANOTHER dog

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        • Sarah, why be so rude in your reply to Maureen? What is gained?

          I’m digging through your posts on vaccinations, trying to learn more, and the name-calling and disrespect I’m finding in comment threads from your blog readers (and yourself, it seems, too) is really off-putting.

          Why do that?

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          • It is her blog…she can respond as she wishes. If you don’t like her responses, then don’t read her blog and don’t comment on her posts. Seriously, I am getting tired of reading people make comments about the way she responds sometimes. To me, it is refreshing.

        • While I agree with your point Sarah, I also agree with the person below that the point could have been made in a much nicer tone.

          When I had my first son I had no clue about vaccinations. I was a sheeple. When I got pregnant with my 2nd son we started researching things like circumcision and vaccinations. I had a gut feeling that I should absolutely NOT vaccinate my 2nd son. So I stopped vaccinating my first son and have never vaccinated my 2nd son. And I have not vaccinated my 3rd son or my daughter. I look at the research, I look at the fact that the highest rate of sids is 2 mo and 4 mo and that’s when babies are getting their vaccinations. And while we only intended to not delay vaccination long term the more my husband and I learn the more we know that we will never vaccinate again. My oldest is probably my healthiest. He so RARELY gets sick. My 2nd gets sick more often and all of my babies have suffered from chronic runny noses the first year or two. So while I’m anti-vaccination and I agree with the point that when we were children we received FAR fewer vaccinations, I do think that a broad generalization that vaccinated kids can’t be as healthy as unvaccinated kids makes me really turned off here as does your rude response to people who don’t completely agree with you 100%. I had hoped that I’d found another place to send people to read some great arguments against vaccinating but if there’s any risk that they’ll read the comments and be turned off by your rudeness I won’t send them this way.

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          • Sarah’s just getting irritated, like me! As I said above in another posting – no matter how I point out that vaccines CAN be dangerous (I don’t even say ‘ARE’ dangerous), my family treats me like a kook. No evidence is good enough to convince them otherwise. They’ll say, “How would you know more than a doctor?”

            Can someone please tell me WHY very few doctors are questioning vaccine safety?
            This is what I feel puts up a red flag. Could it be that the ones that do have concerns
            about vaccines can’t express them for fear of being sidelined from their profession?

            If this is the case and critical thought is not allowed, how can you put your trust in the medical profession then???

          • “Can someone please tell me WHY very few doctors are questioning vaccine safety?”

            That’s the easiest question to answer in the whole world. Because doctors know that vaccines are safe. You’re not going to question that the sky is blue, that the grass is green or that an apple a day keeps the doctor away. Doctors, with years of training in biochemistry, organic chemistry, anatomy and physiology, who know how the immune system responds, who can draw and talk intelligently on what an antibody is and how the body creates different antibodies