Six Reasons To Say NO to Vaccination

by Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist Healthy Living, Healthy Pregnancy, Baby & Child, VaccinationComments: 933

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Vaccination is an extremely controversial topic these days. Whatever side of the aisle you may fall with regard to your opinion about vaccination, one thing is for certain. The choice to vaccinate or not to vaccinate is a decision that has the potential to greatly impact the health of you and most importantly, your children for the rest of their lives.

As a result, this decision should not be taken lightly and it should not be made in a vacuum.   In other words, don’t just take your pediatrician’s word that shots are safe.    It is possible for doctors to be wrong.    They are human, after all.   In reality, your doctor is simply parroting the standard line about vaccination from the American Medical Association (AMA) playbook.    If you think you are getting their honest assessment, think again.

You should neither assume shots are dangerous just because your friend down the street doesn’t vaccinate her kids.

The key here is education;  making an informed decision by investigating the facts with an open mind and knowing exactly what you are getting yourself into before you commit to do anything.

With that in mind, the list below will briefly detail to you the reasons why I did not vaccinate my own children and will never consider a shot for them for any reason even in the event of a so called “pandemic.”    Please remember that I come from a medical family.   My own Father (retired) is a MD as is my brother and my cousin (who was a pediatrician, now deceased).    My husband’s mother is a nurse.    There is no shortage of opinions on this subject in my family, I can assure you.

So, don’t use family pressure as an excuse to do what you need to do once you investigate the facts for yourself and make an informed decision.   There is no more foolish choice than to do something because it is someone else’s wishes and not your own.    It is your body, after all and these are your children.   There is no one on earth who knows what is best for them except you and your spouse – not even and most especially not your doctor!   Make your decisions feeling confident in this knowledge.

#1:   Pharmaceutical Companies Can’t Be Trusted

Let’s just list a couple of the (many) times over the past 10 years where a drug or drug regimen has been deemed unsafe and downright dangerous and yet the pharmaceutical companies covered it up FOR YEARS in order to continue raking in the profits for as long as possible.    This should be an easy task.

How about hormone replacement therapy for women?    The standard of care for a menopausal woman for over 40 years was HRT.   Even women with no complaints were advised that this treatment was helpful as it reduced chances for a heart attack and cancer and even helped them feel younger.    Were any, I repeat ANY of these claims true?   Not a whit.   Breast cancer risk is doubled for women on HRT,  41% increased risk for stroke, 29% increased risk of heart attack, and the list goes on and on.

How about Vioxx?    Before this dangerous drug that caused thousands of deaths from heart attack and stroke was finally removed from the market, evidence surfaced that Merck had withheld information and even doctored reports on its dangers years before.    As of November 2007, Merck had agreed to pay $4.85 billion to settle approximately 27,000 cases from victims claiming injury or death of a family member using Vioxx.    While this is a huge sum of money, in reality it represents less than one year’s profits for Merck.   Does it pay for a drug company to lie about a drug’s safety and efficacy?   You betcha.    The risk of payouts to victims from getting sued is lower than the lure of huge and long lasting profits while a drug’s patent protection remains in effect.

I could cite other examples, but I’m trying to keep this post as pithy as possible.   Please comment if you have other examples of pharmaceutical company deceit.    It will help others reading this blog who might still be on the fence about this issue.

Remember the old proverb, “Fool me once, shame on you;  Fool me twice, shame on me”?    These corporate behemoths have proven themselves to be completely untrustworthy based on past behavior.   In a court of law, if such a company were an actual witness, an attorney would never put them on the stand due to a serious lack of credibility.   Are you really going to take these companies at their word that these shots are safe when money and profits are impacted by their answer?

UPDATE January 2015:  Merck, the manufacturer of the MMR vaccine is currently embroiled in two lawsuits for falsifying data on the effectiveness of the mumps vaccine. One of these lawsuits was brought by two of its own scientists!  Just another example of a the lying and fraud perpetuated by the drug companies with regard to vaccination.

#2:   ALL Vaccines are Loaded with Chemicals and other Poisons

Here is a list of some of the damaging ingredients in the vaccines on the market today:

MSG, antifreeze, phenol (used as a disinfectant), formaldehyde (cancer causing and used to embalm), aluminum (associated with alzheimer’s disease and seizures), glycerin (toxic to the kidney, liver, can cause lung damage, gastrointestinal damage and death), lead, cadmium, sulfates, yeast proteins, antibiotics, acetone (used in nail polish remover), neomycin and streptomycin.  And the ingredient making the press is thimerosol (more toxic than mercury, a preservative still used in many vaccines, not easily eliminated, can cause severe neurological damage as well as other life threatening autoimmune disease). These vaccines are grown and strained through animal or human tissue, like monkey and dog kidney tissue, chick embryo, calf serum, human diploid cells (the dissected organs of aborted fetuses), pig blood, horse blood and rabbit brain.

Can you imagine injecting this stuff directly into your child’s body?  At least if you ate these ingredients, your body would have a chance to detoxify and eliminate them before any permanent damage could be done. But, to inject them deep into the body’s tissues where the toxins are absorbed directly into the blood is the most damaging and lethal approach imaginable.  How could anyone possibly think injection of such a cocktail of poison could in any way help preserve and enhance your child’s health?

It sure didn’t make any sense to me.  And, here I am 17 years later, still very happy with my decision NOT to vaccinate my children.

Sadly, I know many Moms with 20/20 hindsight who greatly regret their decision to vaccinate.   I don’t know ANYONE who has not vaccinated and regrets their decision, however.  Which group do you want to be a part of in 10 years?

#3:   Fully Vaccinated Children are the Unhealthiest, Most Chronically Ill Children I Know

One thing that completely confounds me is that there are no studies comparing the health of unvaccinated children to the health of vaccinated children.  This seems like such an obvious study and it should have been conducted decades ago.    Why hasn’t it been done yet?   My guess is because the health of the nonvaccinated children would so totally blow away the health of the vaccinated children that the discussion about the dangers of vaccines could finally be put to bed and the case would be closed emphatically in favor of those that accuse shots of causing chronic illness and auto immune disease.

Update since this post was written:  Vaccinated children are found to be more chronically ill than unvaccinated children with rates for autism, ear infections, ADHD, asthma and allergies as much as 30% higher than unvaxed children.

Take an informal poll of the folks in your circle and see for yourself.   Observation is a powerful tool, so put it to use.   The kids with the most problems – allergies, asthma, ADHD, autism, coordination and other gross motor issues, etc sure seem to be the ones that are right on track with their vaccination schedule, don’t you think?

Even more powerful, ask Moms with several children, some of whom are vaccinated and some who are not.    In my own circle, the Moms I know who have one or two older kids who are fully vaccinated and the younger kids who did not get any shots tell me that, hands down, that the unvaccinated children are healthier and have less problems.

Someday there will be a study that shows that unvaccinated children have many less health problems than their vaccinated peers.   Don’t wait until this study is finally done because it will be too late for your child.

#4:   Other Countries Are Waking Up to the Dangers of Vaccines

In 1975, Japan raised its minimum vaccination age to 2 years old,    The country’s infant mortality subsequently plummeted to such low levels that Japan now enjoys one of the lowest level in the Western world (#3 at last look).    In comparison, the United States’ infant mortality rate is #33.

In Australia, the flu vaccine was recently suspended (April 2010) for children under 5 because an alarming number of children were showing up in the emergency rooms with febrile convulsions or other vaccine reactions within hours of getting this shot.

Need I say more?

#5:   A Number of Vaccines Have Already Had Problems/Been Removed from the Market

Here is a brief list of some of the vaccines that have caused serious injury in recent years.   Please comment with others that you know of if they are not on this list:

– In Feb 2002, GlaxoSmithKline removed the Lyme Disease vaccine from the market citing poor sales when in fact a number of folks who received the vaccine reported symptoms worse than the disease itself such as incurable arthritis or neurological impairment.

–  The Rotavirus vaccine (Rotashield) was removed from the market in 1999 due to an association between the vaccine and life threatening bowel obstruction or twisting of the bowl!   Interestingly, my pediatrician at the time (who was a lifelong friend of our family) had highly recommended that this vaccine be given to my newborn baby at the time.   I trusted my instincts and said no to the shot – am I glad I did!    My pediatrician (remember, lifelong family friend) subsequently dropped me as a patient. Guess he wasn’t such a friend after all! Click here for the full story.

– A warning was issued concerning the second Rotavirus vaccine (Rotateq)  in 2007 as it caused the same twisting of the bowel problem in 28 infants (16 of which required intestinal surgery).    This second vaccine has not yet been removed from the market as far as I know.

– Another vaccine that has had a lot of problems but is not yet withdrawn is the Gardasil vaccine for adolescent girls.    Fainting, paralysis, slurred speech are just a few of the reactions reported and yet this vaccine continues to stay on the market.   At least 1600 adverse events have been reported since its approval in 2006, yet doctors are continuing to recommend this shot to their patients.   Why this vaccine hasn’t already been removed from the market is astonishing.

If the vaccines above have had serious problems, the others probably do too as vaccine manufacturers follow the same basic formula when coming up with each new shot.

#6   You Can Always Get Vaccinated, But You Can Never Undo a Vaccination

Procrastination is usually considered a character flaw, but in the case of vaccination, delaying the decision for as long as possible plays to your advantage.    The longer you wait to vaccinate your child, the better.   A child’s immune system continues to develop for years after birth.    The blood/brain barrier does not fully develop until adolescence.     The longer you wait, the more likely your child’s immune system will be able to handle the onslaught with minimal damage.

If you don’t know what to do, don’t do anything!

Conversely, you can never undo a vaccination.   There are holistic therapies that can detox a child from the vaccine’s poison, but the damage that is done can never be 100% repaired.    And, I have NEVER met a fully vaccinated child that is healthier and more robust than a well nourished, unvaccinated child.   Period.

While I would like to convince you to never vaccinate your child, if I can simply convince you to delay it for a few years that is certainly better than vaccinating a baby.     If you can simply commit to waiting until your child is school age to vaccinate, so much the better than if you vaccinate as a toddler and so on.   Time is on your side and waiting is the best policy when it comes to shots.

By the time your child is older, more research will have been done, you will have an opportunity to learn more and become more comfortable with your decision to wait.    Who knows?    Your attitude of wait and see may turn out to be permanent.

Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

Comments (933)

  • Audry

    What's your view on vaccines for things you know you may be at risk for? Specifically, my husband was pecked in the eye by one of our chickens a couple of months ago. It scratched his cornea pretty badly, and the doctor at the emergency room recommended a tetanus vaccine. When we were dubious, he basically ridiculed us "Adults can't get autism you know" stressed what a nasty disease tetanus is, and stressed that tetanus lives in the ground, chickens are dirty, peck in the dirt, etc. and that this injury was a prime risk for tetanus.

    In the end, I was still dubious but told my husband it was his decision since he's an adult, and he decided to get the shot. He wouldn't have just gotten a random shot because he was due for it, but because he had possibly been exposed, he decided to do it.

    I wish we'd been better informed beforehand about things like how likely it is to get tetanus at all from a dirty puncture wound these days, what the treatment is if you do get it, side effects, long term effects, etc. Luckily it wasn't a small child that I had to make a decision for.

    Also, any thoughts on how to be informed ahead of times in situations like this? Are there certain situations where vaccines will be recommended other than the "standard" vaccination schedule for children? Are there certain illnesses or injuries where vaccines are standard treatment for, that we can read up on ahead of time in case we ever find ourselves in that type of situation again?

    One other note, while we were there the doctor also tried to talk my husband into a vaccine for whooping cough, which he said they now recommend for adults as that is apparently (according to him) making a comeback. We declined, of course, but people may be interested to know that they could face some pressure to be vaccinated even if they visit a doctor (or emergency room) for something totally unrelated.

    May 25th, 2010 2:02 pm Reply
    • Rachel

      Hey Audry,

      My dad is a medical reporter and has researched vaccines for years. The only vaccines I have had are the ones the doctors give you as a baby (before we knew the harm of vaccines) and my tetanus shot before I went on a trip to Mexico. The tetanus shot is literally the only shot I have had in the last 20 years. This was the only one my dad allowed me to have (because of where I was going.) So just be encouraged that of all the vaccines this one is probably the least to harm your husband.

      January 4th, 2011 6:46 pm Reply
      • Siena S Miller

        you know there is only one tru mediceine in the whole world that is actualt medicine

        March 21st, 2014 6:17 pm Reply
    • Cindy

      I have refused a tetanus shot for my eldest child when he fell down the stairs and ended up with a cut above his eye. The doctor in the ED had it all ready to go and was just looking over my sons notes, when he questioned my decision to not vaccinate. I was about to tell him where he could shove that needle (rather than in my child) so I am glad that he stopped and did the right thing (unlike the nurses who whisked away the same child at birth and gave vit k and hep b shots without my consent, and after already telling them I was refusing to vaccinate!)
      I have been ridiculed by many health professionals for my INFORMED decision, but I stand strong in my beliefs and my decisions.

      January 29th, 2011 1:59 am Reply
      • mo garcia

        Giving a tetanus shot after the fact is a waste of time and $. You should know also that getting the tetanus shot includes the D and aP portions, so you are getting three in one.

        You should know that if you are to get any vaccine for a cut, that the proper shot in that case is the gamma globulin shot which would give you the immunities now when you need them. The tetanus shot will not make immunities for another two weeks.

        Furthermore, the best treatment for a cut that could make you at risk for tetanus is scrupulous cleaning and hydrogen peroxide. Tetanus is anaerobic and cannot live in the presence of oxygen.

        @Cindy: you are lucky to have had a doctor wait and ask you a question. I have had doctors in the ER ready to call CPS and take custody of my children for not vaxing. At least he stopped and asked. Your doctor also had your records at hand. Lucky.

        April 24th, 2011 11:50 am Reply
        • whitney

          actually, you can get both the tetanus and diptheria vaccine separate, just not the pertussis vax. and, actually the shot can prevent tetanus from occurring, if you’ve gotten a cut. it just doesn’t do anything if you already have tetanus. but antibiotics can take care of that.

          but anyway, a tetanus shot for an indoor fall? i understand one for a deep cut that may have gotten feces in it, but one for an indoor cut that is properly washed out and taken care of seems a little overkill. my son got bit by an indoor dog above the eye, and when i took him to a clinic i wrote down that i am delaying vaccines, but still asked the doctor his opinion. i was VERY surprised when he said, if delaying vaccines is your personal choice, then that’s your personal choice. of course, i recommend getting the tetanus shot, but i think he’ll be fine.”

          May 24th, 2011 11:24 pm Reply
          • Jessica

            Actually I have been told that you are no longer able to just get a tetanus vaccine, they are all 3-in-1 now.

            December 13th, 2011 2:42 pm
          • Suzie

            I am still doing research and do not plan to vaccinate my kids at this point but keeping openminded. I got just the Tetnaus by itself last year before I went to Haiti I had to request to get it by itself otherwise they would give me the 3 in one.

            August 24th, 2012 3:49 pm
          • siena S miller

            ya know there is only one medicine in the whole entire earthly planet that just helps people and has zero count em zero side affects, and it helps newborns all the way do dear elderly people,

            March 21st, 2014 6:14 pm
        • hannah

          i am going to be giving birth soon and it looks like i have to do it in the hospital and i am so worried they will take my baby from me and inject her with something with out my knowledge what vaccines do they give babies when they are just delivered ?

          December 8th, 2013 1:59 am Reply
          • K

            They give vitamin K, which is supposed to prevent brain clots. My understanding is that was only an issue when they used to use tongs or a vacuum to “help” the baby pass through the birth canal, and those things are almost never used anymore. They also give Hep B, which is an STD and should be a non-issue if you tested negative for STDs during your pregnancy, and if you’re not receiving a blood transfusion. They apparently started that one to prevent newborns of high-risk individuals from getting it. My first got Vit K (hubby raised a stink), but second has had nothing.

            December 8th, 2013 10:51 am
          • Siena S Miller

            there is one medicine on the entire planet that treats everything, and has absolutely no side affects except health and happieness, , and with this medicine there is absolutely no risk of heart attack stroke bleeding,

            March 21st, 2014 6:20 pm
        • Walt

          Your talk about tetanus is only relevant if you have never been immunized with tetanus. Also your knowledge of anaerobic bacteria is lacking . They can live without Oxygen but also can live along with it. Just because you read about something does not mean you comprehend it.

          December 10th, 2013 1:46 am Reply
      • Dr.Emad

        Well you should get it, Getting a allergic reaction to the needle is nothing compered to the actual infection.!!

        October 17th, 2012 9:25 am Reply
      • Alex


        The Vitamin K shot is administered to make sure that your baby is able to clot his/her blood given the need to do so. The infant does not receive any of this vitamin from you during the gestation period. The way you and I have adequate levels of this vitamin in our bodies is from absorption of certain foods mixing with our intestinal flora. Newborn babies have not eaten by mouth yet, tried a variety of different foods, and subsequently built up this desirable intestinal flora. Therefore, they are unable to have adequate levels of this vitamin.

        October 12th, 2013 12:05 am Reply
        • Amanda_M87

          But most babies seemed to do fine without it 100 years ago. Why do they absolutely need it now?

          October 25th, 2013 9:22 pm Reply
          • Julieta

            Yes, most babies did well , but some died because their blood wasn’t able to clot. If healthy kids have to get a vit k shot in order for 1 child not to die at birth, then I welcome the shot. Same as with vaccines. People used to die from diphteria, tetanus and all the preventable diseases a lot 100 years ago. Now thanks to the vaccines some of those diseases don’t even exist anymore. Mostly because of the “crowd protection” vaccines give. We all get a vaccine, the microorganism isn’t able to live in any host, then it slowly extincts.
            I hate pharmaceutical companies too , and I would love it if there was a natural way to get rid of this diseases, but vaccines are all we have and i’m thankful for them

            November 7th, 2013 6:26 pm
          • Alexis

            I agree to that.This is the EXACT reason I don’t want my son Vaccinated. His Doctors office told me I need to find another place to bring my child because i refused the shot. I am upset that I have done two shots for him already. The one in the Hospital, and the one month one, but now I know more and most definitely refuse.

            November 20th, 2013 11:42 pm
          • Chris

            Juliet, I keep hearing that vaccines have gotten rid of diseases that people died from a 100 yrs ago. I can’t help but think that it wasn’t vaccines but access to cleaner environments and safe water.

            November 26th, 2013 3:40 pm
        • karen

          Vitamin K naturally kicks in on the 8th day of development after birth. Funny how God designed the body! Until the 8th day, the child receives the necessary immunities from the mother’s milk. The only reason hospitals give the Vit K shot is in order to perform circumcision before the male child leaves the hospital. We had the procedure done in the doctors office when our son was 8 days old. He had absolutely NO bleeding and NO complications from the procedure.

          April 4th, 2014 1:09 pm Reply
      • Joshua

        did nurses really force vaccinate even after you said you were choosing not to?

        April 16th, 2014 9:56 pm Reply
    • Jennifer Simpson

      What your husband needed was the Tetanus antitoxin or the Tetanus immune globulin. The Tetanus vaccine does take your body a bit to develop antibodies, so the best bet is the antitoxin or immune globulin that neutralizes the toxin right away. We as a family do not vaccinate at all, and my daughter cut off her toe (in a barn) and had it reconnected. They tried to give her the vaccine, and I stopped them and told then to just give her the antitoxin..they made a whole big deal out of it, that it would make my daughter’s leg sore…but I stuck to my guns. She came out just fine :o).

      November 13th, 2012 2:55 pm Reply
    • Elena

      Hello Audrey!

      It’s two years later, but might help at least others. If there is a huge imminent risk of contracting a serious infection, still medication, or vaccination is the lesser bad. As for vaccines and medications as “prevention” I have learnt something absolutely logical in African countries from white settlers. As Europeans new in Africa, /southern part/ we started to take malaria meds. Then they told we were foolish… first of all it was winter in the Southern hemisphere, evenings were cold. Therefore there were no mosquitos at all, as how we have no mosquitos in winter in Europe, and they are only active a couple of hours early evening. Even during summer they recommend to stay under a net, or simply wear long sleeves, and or repellent. As they said, those who live there for decades might get malaria once or twice, but still with less harm and complications from meds they take for a month, than from “prevention” they are supposed to take for years. Being on malaria meds for years they say would kill you much sooner than the mosquitos. According to formal logic we can extend the parabola for preventive meds people are “On”, and for vax being given with slight risk of not even serious deseases.

      November 28th, 2012 10:50 pm Reply
    • Cathy

      A good read on the Tetanus shot debate:

      December 8th, 2012 12:12 am Reply
    • Rachel

      Just putting it out there about people who DO regret not vaccinating! I would much rather vaccinate my child than have him suffer than a preventable disease – especially having lived in latin america where you cant always rely on others around you being healthy.

      August 11th, 2013 1:51 am Reply
      • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

        I’ve never met anyone who regretted not vaccinating but plenty who did regret it.

        August 11th, 2013 3:56 pm Reply
        • medstudent

          bc there not alive to regret it…

          October 7th, 2013 12:36 am Reply
          • sam


            October 30th, 2013 2:29 pm
          • Maryanne


            November 2nd, 2013 1:15 pm
          • Flannigan

            I’m sorry, but then there are people like my family, who are allergic to a preservative in vaccines. When a nurse whisks us off all up on their high horse stomping around high and mighty blahing about how ‘lol autism you stupid retards’, they are putting us as babies, and our children at risk. Our allergy can cause serious seisures. Please stop propagandizing about vaccines. No one here is saying no one should vaccinate, but we all deserve to be informed about the risks, what’s in the vaccines, and not to have them forcibly given to our babies.

            December 13th, 2013 4:59 am
        • Julieta

          I’m a medical student, and I’m doing a rotation in a pediatrics service. Yesterday I saw a little girl, 2 months old, with meningitis due to Haemophilus Influenzae type B (HiB), a really bad bacteria that has costed the life of many babies for many years. Every since the introduction of the HiB component in bacterial vaccines for kids, the prevalence of this disease has dropped practicly to zero in places with high vaccine coverage.
          And this little girl got sick because the kids around her weren’t vaccinated, and she was about to die. So maybe, the neighbours next door didn’t regret not vaccinating their child because nothing happened to them, but little Isabella lies in a hospital with possible brain damage because not vaccinating them made possible the bacteria circulation.
          I hate pharmaceutical companies too, but if vaccines is all we have to prevent this infectious diseases, then so be it.

          November 7th, 2013 6:37 pm Reply
          • Katie

            Thank you. It is always wise to question the pros and cons, but vaccines have made diseases like small pox and polo basically non existent in the U.S. I really do encourage everyone to do their research. It’s ultimately up to you on what your decision will be on whether to vaccinate or not. However, please, please, please…..make sure whatever source you’re citing is a credible source that pertains to the subject you are researching. Don’t just use one that happens to agree with a preconceived notion that you may have. Keep the facts straight. It’s hard to watch videos in classes about very young children who came down with the whooping cough, an illness that could possibly kill a small child, all because they didn’t vaccinate for it. I plan on vaccinating my children, and I will not change my decision until there is substantial evidence that vaccines do in fact cause children to regress. The truth is, there is none. It’s sad that people give into the “hive mind” so to speak. KPBS has an amazing documentary that explores both sides, and I encourage everyone to watch it.

            November 24th, 2013 2:34 am
          • Conan

            If you was a real medical student, you would not publish the child’s real name.

            February 11th, 2014 11:38 am
        • mark

          have you ever heard of anthrax (you know the incredibly horrible disease that kills you in a slow painful way by shutting down your organs and immune system) well that went into decline about a hundred or so years ago, nobody knows why but it may have something to do with the mass creation and distribution of it’s vaccine. this has happened to many equally nasty diseases such as small pox and in the long run the ones who get vaccinated tend to be the ones who still have the majority of there body left.

          December 27th, 2013 2:25 pm Reply
          • Jennifer

            Mark, not sure where you are getting your information, because there was never a mass vaccination campaign for anthrax at all, much less a 100 years ago. Also, they discontinued vaccinations for smallpox well before it was eradicated, because the vaccinations were CAUSING smallpox. You seem to be totally mis-informed on vaccine issues.

            December 29th, 2013 9:56 am
        • Kim

          News flash, infectious diseases are on the rise again when public health efforts have reduced some of them to almost 0.

          February 11th, 2014 1:35 am Reply
      • Mandy

        I’ve never regretted the decision to vaccinate. My kids are a very happy and healthy nine and four year old. Bright and gorgeous, they have no medical, emotional or mental issues (touch wood for the future!)

        I’ve got a few friends who are anti-vax and who urged me ‘to do the research’ when my first son was born. All the links they gave me were to sites like this, wild claims from uneducated people arrogant enough to believe they know more than the scientists in the field. Who also link to very dodgy data. That is called googling and believing unreliable information, not ‘researching’. Bloody hell!

        Go to sites like science-based medicine where the data is explained by Doctors and Scientists who have trained and researched for years, DECADES in the actual fields they are talking about. Who is this Sarah? Who is behind Age of Autism? There is not one single credential amongst them.

        And look around you! I don’t know about the US but in Australia, children who have followed the vaccine schedule are in the VAST majority (I think it’s up around the 90% mark but can’t be bothered right now with goo…I mean ‘doing the research’). If vaccines were so dangerous, surely babies would be popping off like flies! I do not know of ONE SINGLE case of a vaccine injury, not even minor. I talked to my GP who has been practising for 40 years….he has seen one febrile convulsion (which, apart from the shock to the child and parents, didn’t cause any lasting damage).

        Think about it further, the only way this ‘Don’t vaccinate you kids because vaccines are evil’ paradigm makes any kind of sense is if there was a global conspiracy of ‘the powers that be’ to actively harm the general population. I guess it works if you believe in the whole Illuminati, Reptilian overlord thing…

        Anyway, I would like to live my life relatively stress free, there are far more things to get worried about like climate change etc. Vaccinating was a very easy stress free decision.

        Oh, and I HATE it when anti-vax people start claiming their kids are much more healthier than vaccinated kids. As I said, my kids haven’t ever really been sick. Not with colds, not with gastro. There are three families I know whose kids are not vaccinated and get sick constantly. Family 1, the oldest has chronic asthma and eczema and all three seem to always have something going on whether it’s tonsillitis, ear infection, conjunctivitis. Now do I think it’s because they are unvaccinated? No. I don’t think they are neither healthier or unhealthier…all I know is that they are at risk of catching potentially life threatening diseases but maybe not in Australia because of healthy vaccination rates.

        That’s what happened to Families’ 2 and 3 – all four kids (same school) contracted whooping cough, as did other unvaccinated kids at that school. One of the younger siblings was under two and had to be hospitalised and still had a cough after a year. The scary thing is these families are still antivax.

        The mind boggles!

        November 13th, 2013 5:56 pm Reply
        • Ashley

          I didn’t take the time to read much of what you said but for you to think that a scientist only knows what’s best is pretty pathetic and it shows how corrupt you are. I am a strong believer in GOD and as far as i’m concerned everything we will ever need was put on earth so these vaccinations and every thing else the world feels they can’t live with out is non sense in my eyes. People point out that not getting vaccinations have caused deaths and blah blah blah but vaccinations have caused deaths and complications… People were just fine way back then without these vaccinations so why exactly do we have to have them now? I don’t trust this corrupt world and as far as i’m concerned they could be injecting us and our kids with more than we think. I don’t have to be a scientist to believe what i believe and this is why the government will soon doom us all because people are so trusting in all the world has created us to believe. They could be polluting our air and making these diseases that take lives and require vaccines that will later in life take our life to. This is why people end up with cancer and these deadly diseases because all these vaccinations and food and every day things we use are the gateway. I have never gotten the flu shot and i have never had the flu… We are not meant to be injected with all this stuff and everything we need and ever will need has been put on earth for us from god. We all have different beliefs but i will not trust this corrupt world and let them inject my child with god only knows what. They are picking us off slowly which is why all these unexplainable disasters have been going on around the world. The world is over populated and the government has everything to do with all this and they can and will use whatever they can to harm us all. How do we know what our kids are really being injected with? It’s ignorant of you to be so stuck on the world and what it has to offer that you wouldn’t stop and think about your child and wonder if their being harmed. For all we know the government could have created half of these diseases in the world that are killing and making people run to get these vaccines. There has been unexplainble UFO’S and government crap lurking around and above us experimenting with new creations and probably polluting our air. You have your opinion and i have mine but you do NOT know what is truly best and if getting vaccinated is what’s best people or not.

          November 16th, 2013 4:31 am Reply
          • Logical Guy

            The moment you mentioned god was the moment I had to reply. If everything you need was put on Earth then why don’t you vaccinate? Vaccines were made on this planet from ingredients on this planet.

            November 17th, 2013 4:48 am
          • Elabuet

            Ashley, I think this pretty much sums up your post:

            “I didn’t take the time to read much of what you said”

            You didn’t read it, yet you then reply? You don’t think you should fully read something before commenting on it?

            Or this little gem from your post:

            “People were just fine way back then without these vaccinations so why exactly do we have to have them now?”

            Where have you been living?

            My Grandmother lost 5 of her 7 siblings to Scarlet Fever, Diphtheria, Measles, and Rubella. Please do your research on the statistics.

            Unless you think the CDC is a big conspiracy, you should check out their data on the resurgence of Measles, or Whooping Cough (pertussis) both of which have since made a resurgence since people have stopped vaccinating their children. Also, please take a look at the mortality rates for Rubella, Measles, Diptheria, etc…

            As far as relying on what God gave us, God bestowed us with intelligence and curiosity. Both of which have allowed us to better our situation, like moving from outside into shelter. Creating fire to cook our food. Learning what will make will make us sick and searching for cures for our ailments. Vaccines are a product of our god-given intelligence. I take it you never take aspirin, or cold medicine, because I don’t recall finding those lying around anywhere.

            TO THE AUTHOR:

            I have not seen one fact cited in this article that backs up your decision, only opinions and a few arbitrary facts that I have not been able to substantiate.

            Number on reason on your list is that pharmaceutical companies cannot be trusted. You can obviously find stories of their misconduct, but that totally ignores the thousands upon thousands of stories where these drugs save lives. My mother-in-law was given 6 months to live after a diagnosis of Stage 4 Pancreatic Cancer. Due to her chemotherapy treatment she was able to live another 2 and half years, which is unheard of for this diagnosis. However, she had access to the evil pharmaceutical companies’ experimental trials and they worked for her. She was lucky and and had a high quality of life right up until 2 weeks before her death. This, as with your Vioxx reference, is not really related to getting a vaccination.

            Let me be clear, when i am talking about vaccinations, I am not referring to every vaccination out there. I am referring to the major ones that have helped to eradicate diseases such as smallpox.

            I take it that since you believe all pharmaceutical companies are evil, then you never ever take a prescription, because to do so would be hypocritical. If your child contracted the measles would you use medicine to cure them? When your child contracted pertussis, how did you treat it?

            These days anyone can find anything to back up their story, there is always some statistic to make a point. Presenting limited information to prove your point is a cheap tactic to influence your readers. But as someone who is trying to understand what the real dangers of vaccinating your child are, I am not convinced by this article because I do not see any supporting facts.

            Show me numbers where vaccinating has caused more harm than good.

            Even the author of the initial article linking Autism to the MMR vaccine was stripped of his license for falsifying data and the journal the published it retracted the article.


            Also, might want to look at this about the resurgence of measles:



            How would you explain this resurgence, other than the fact that people do not vaccinate for it anymore. Granted, it is very rare right now, but this is a highly contagious and damaging disease. It will come back, and it will kill children unless we do something about it.

            MOST IMPORTANTLY: Stating that your child got pertussis and it was NO BIG DEAL is terrifying to me and extremely irresponsible. It is EXTREMELY irresponsible to risk your child contracting a potentially fatal disease, or possibly spreading it to a child who might not survive it. Just because your child survived it does not mean another will. You were lucky, but an infant contracting pertussis can very likely result in death and it should be taken very seriously. This disease is not something to shrug off as you have.



            Or point 2.Other countries are realizing the dangers of vaccines. There are many factors that go into calculating the infant mortality rate for a country, such as access to healthcare, birth weight, economic well-being, etc…Nutrition being one of the key factors for infant mortality. Low birth weight makes up over half of the IMR.

            The way you present this information is as if because Japan raised it’s age to 2, Japan’s infant mortality rate plummeted and I don’t think you have the facts to back that up.

            In fact, when I look at vaccines in Japan, they advocate for them, and in most cases require them:


            Singapore is number one on the IMR list and if you look at Singapore’s vaccination schedule they receive at least 16 vaccinations by the time they are 2.

            Here is the recommended immunization schedule for children in Singapore:



            They obviously advocate for vaccines.

            Also, pointing out that the US is number 33 on the infant mortality list does nothing to prove your point, unless you show that infant mortality has increased since we started vaccinating, which I think you’ll find is most definitely not the case.

            Since 1915, our infant mortality rate has decreased significantly from 100 infants for every 1,000 live births in the U.S, to 47 for every 1,000 in 1940, 20 by 1970, and down to 10 per 1,000 by 1988.

            From Wikipeida (which has actual references to studies)In the US over the last three decades, the infant mortality overall has also decreased considerably. In the last century, the infant mortality rate has decreased by 93%. Overall, the rates have decreased drastically from 20 deaths in 1970 to 6.9 deaths in 2003 (per every 1000 live births). In 2003, the leading causes of infant mortality in the United States were congenital anomalies, disorders related to immaturity, SIDS, and maternal complications.

            None of this indicates that vaccinating has increased our infant mortality rate.

            One could actually argue that since we have stopped vaccinating, the decrease in the infant mortality rate has at least plateaued.

            As an author on this topic you have an influence on your readers and therefore you have a responsibility to present the facts not just your opinion. I do not see well thought out or well researched points here. You say you are educated on the topic, yet all I see is someone who is regurgitating opinions of others as fact.

            I am open to facts on this topic, if there is proof that vaccinations are more harmful than my child contracting one of these diseases, or that by my not getting these vaccines I am not perpetuating a pandemic of diseases that had been eradicated, then I will consider it, but so far I don’t see any information stating that.

            December 16th, 2013 6:39 pm
          • Holly

            “everything we will ever need was put on earth so these vaccinations and every thing else the world feels they can’t live with out is non sense in my eyes”

            So what about this computer you’re looking at right now? Non sense in your eyes???

            January 8th, 2014 4:43 pm
          • Mark

            Wow, that comment just did a lot for your causes credibility … not

            February 27th, 2014 9:57 pm
          • AreYouSerious

            This is the most retarded thing I have ever skim read.

            March 15th, 2014 10:56 pm
        • Christan

          My sister in law vaccinated her son with whooping cough and …..oh he still ended up with whooping cough. You talk about all these uneducated people that do not vaccinate their children…really look at the research, most of it is funded by pharm companies…tell me that is not biased at all. Also there is scientific research that shows the relationship between autoimmune disease and vaccine…just goo…oh wait, no you actually have to put in some time to research it. Research is always biased…not to mention the doctors reporting the research are many times making a profit themselves from the vaccines. I was vaccinated and I am fine, but I was also given vaccines back in 1982…how many more do children get now…..I want to know why I am ok with the limited number I got, but now kids need so many more? I do not believe you can completely trust pharm companies…

          January 6th, 2014 12:26 pm Reply
          • Donna

            I often believe that it is wasted breath trying to explain to anyone anything about Big Pharma. Most of our society has become so indoctrinated with more information from the government and their cronies than seeking out sources that are unbiased and have no gain in being contrary.

            January 30th, 2014 11:30 am
        • Greg

          This is the best comment ever posted on the internet. I’m sick of “Mommy Blogs” being cited as a source for “being your research” so the “sheeple” can “wake up”.

          The worst part of it is that these sources (and comment sections) are just riddled with “personal evidence”. “I don’t trust doctors because my family has had problems with doctors, therefore no vaccinations for the world.” or “I’ve never seen a kid with autism who wasn’t vaccinated” or something bug-nutty insane.

          February 12th, 2014 4:11 am Reply
        • Mark

          Here, here ….

          February 27th, 2014 9:58 pm Reply
        • Olivia

          Thank-you so much for posting this! I went on this site to see if ignorant people like this still exist and endanger others, and apparently, they do! I completely agree with everything you, and every other rational person, say.

          March 23rd, 2014 11:24 pm Reply
    • Martina

      Thank you very much for your information. After extensive research I decided not to continue with vaccinations. My children are 1 year and 2 years old. They have allergies, asthma and other issues. I don’t even know anymore what I should feed my sons. Could anyone provide me with information how to get the poison out of my children’s bodies please? Any help is greatly appreciated. I wish someone would have told me before I unknowingly agreed to poison my children. Thank you very much in advance. Warmly, Martina –

      March 8th, 2014 10:56 pm Reply
  • Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist

    Alzheimers disease is autism for adults .. vaccines are loaded with aluminum and aluminum toxicity is linked with dementia risk. So, no I don't do tetanus shots either.

    May 25th, 2010 2:09 pm Reply
    • fry

      What is that about? First of all, they are NOT the same. My main line of work is assessing individuals with cognitive issues – some of the Autistic individuals are more intelligent than you and I. Alzheimer’s is a genetic condition with some environmental factors that DO NOT include exposure aluminum. That has been “debunked.” On the same note, the link between Autism and aluminum has also been proved as a fraud- it looks like someone else with a financial motive joined the dark side.

      February 2nd, 2011 12:07 pm Reply
      • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

        Sounds like you are reading all the “research” put out by the vaccine industry. Why don’t you read the other side? Alzheimers and aluminum buildup in the body are most definitely linked. We will have a lot of young people getting alzheimer’s in the coming decades that was previously unheard of. Very scary scenario. Not just exposure from vaccines which is a big enough source of heavy metals but also from soda cans etc.

        February 2nd, 2011 1:55 pm Reply
        • mo garcia

          I agree. The flu shot and other vaccines are poison to the neurological system.

          April 24th, 2011 11:51 am Reply
        • Shanon

          Actually they said the other day that 1 out of 8 Americans has Alzheimers. That is astounding.

          April 25th, 2011 6:37 am Reply
        • BrownEyedGirl

          You’re right, Sarah, but unfortunately we don’t have to wait for decades to see younger people getting Alzheimer’s- it’s happening now. I just listened to a interview with Dr. Russell Blaylock, retired neurosurgeon and expert on excitotoxins/MSG, (Attn: “fry”- you can”t get to be much more of an expert on the subject than that) and he said that people are starting to get Alzheimer’s at the age of 35-40 now… :(

          June 7th, 2012 3:26 am Reply
          • Dr.Emad

            You are all wrong, you all should get a vaccine because, not getting one is just bringing back the infection

            October 17th, 2012 9:22 am
          • Jennifer Simpson

            Are you really a Doc, Dr. Emad? Or are you just posing? LOL..Flu vaccines have been shown to work in .06% of the population..LOL..They don’t work, so why risk the toxic overload? And more often than not, the people that I know that get the flu shot come down with the flu, immediately after, I never get the flu shot, and just keep my vitamin D levels up, and guess what, I don’t get the flu..I don’t even worry about being around a person that is sick…:o)

            November 13th, 2012 2:59 pm
        • Nicole – mother of three

          I am a mother of three very Healthy children. We have read many-many books about the pros and cons of vaccinations. In the end we decided to get our children vaccinated but only one shot at a time.

          All I have to say is that it is very easy for people to not vaccinate because they live in a country where most of the children are vaccinated. I feel that people who do not vaccinate are huge Hipocrites because they can depend on the fact that this is a safe place to live and their children are pretty safe to not contract any diseases.
          My father in law has a leg shorter than the other because he contacted Polio when he was younger, before the vaccination was invented; he almost died. Many families were affected by this disease before the vaccination was invented.My friend who does not vaccinate her daughter says that, yes, she got measles when she was a child but she was ok!! Is that sane reasoning to Not vaccinate? I don’t think so- she is Lucky she didn’t have lasting effects! I was in Thailand, in a small village, and watched a mother have to carry her 15 year old on her back everywhere because his Polio was so bad his body was similar to a rag doll. My point is that this country is a lot more safe because of vaccinations. Not all information about the benefits of vaccinations is Bad and false. Just look at the history of this country and sicknesses that people fell ill to- before certain vaccinations; that will give you your answers more than just recent research.

          January 21st, 2013 1:28 pm Reply
          • Bea

            Amen, Nicole! I have lived and worked all over the world and I have seen so many children and young adults die or be permanently crippled by preventable diseases. I myself stopped taking my malaria meds because I didn’t like the way they made me feel and the bad dreams they caused when I was living in India… well, guess what? I contracted vivax malaria and now, 12 years later, I’m still dealing with the after math, like getting a fever and stomach problems any time my body is in the least bit compromised (like if I’m just overly tired, for example- I don’t even have to be sick). Now, that being said- I do think there are limits. I only get vaccines needed when I travel somewhere exotic, but I don’t seasonal vaccines or generally adult boosters. My parents always beg me to get flu vaccines, which I don’t, and I’ve only had the flu once in my adult life. I find there to be a much greater correlation between eating healthy and having a healthy body and not eating healthy and falling ill. I’m not an expert as far as child vaccination, but these diseases that you’re vaccinating against are no joke. They seem like nothing to us now BECAUSE vaccinations have made them a rarity, but don’t underestimate the diseases. They can be fatal at worst, but also damaging for the rest of one’s life.

            June 11th, 2013 12:58 pm
          • Annie

            I lived in India for 23 years next to a home for children who have polio. I have seen first hand the devastation these diseases have wrought. I completely agree with Bea and Nicole. Very well said. Living in a safe bubble in a first world country, it is so easy to take these things for granted. I am leaving for India in 3 weeks and getting both my kids up to date on the vaccines.

            July 9th, 2013 5:33 pm
          • Alysha

            The reason the place we live is safe, is because of science and an abundance of technology and in some cases money. You can’t say that the reason people in other countries are still sick and contracting serious diseases is because they just don’t have vaccinations. They hardly have clean drinking water. Something as small as clean water is more than capable of keeping a person healthy enough that they can fight off illnesses. We have MUCH more than that and therefore are capable of dealing with things on our own. Just because someone doesn’t get vaccinated does not mean they are using all of your children as some kind of human shield to disease. Once my children are old enough to make the decision on whether or not they feel vaccinating is the right choice for them, then thats up to them. But it should always be a choice. The minute it’s not, there’s a problem.

            September 12th, 2013 2:13 am
          • Beth

            People who do their research are hypocrites? That doesn’t make sense! We have a cleaner environment. That is why there are less of these diseases than other countries. Polio was way down by the time the vaccine was introduced. Just get a vaccine insert from your doctor to find that out. Also, measles was a common non-serious disease.

            October 14th, 2013 12:35 pm
          • missyb

            This country is ‘safe’ because it is clean. The west has unlimited access to clean water, and we live in sanitary homes with indoor plumbing and ventilation.

            December 2nd, 2013 1:28 pm
        • medstudent

          just bc there are higher rates of alzheimers doesnt mean its the fault of vaccines… look up research on az being labelled as diabetes type 3, it seems most likely that the rise is linked to poor diet and health in this country.

          poor research on ur behalf and poor logic have u reaching for the answers that YOU want, not the ones presented by science

          October 7th, 2013 12:39 am Reply
          • Edd

            It is ridiculous how everyone just accepts that the only factor in western health are vaccines. There are many other reasons why poorer economic countries suffer worse from such crippling diseases.

            The evidence of cot death cases and severe life changing disabilities occurring after vaccines is outstanding. Further more there is no evidence to prove that they are even slightly effective.

            Have you not thought there is also no cases on the long term affects of these vaccines on the human body? Every attempt so far has mostly proved disastrous. Lyme Disease vaccine ect

            November 12th, 2013 7:10 pm
        • Reality D-Bag

          Dear Sarah,
          “Alzheimers and aluminum buildup in the body are most definitely linked” is quite possible the MOST ignorance-filled, idiotic statement I’ve read in the last 24-hours…I then proceeded to read your entire “article” and understood that YOU, PERSONALLY should be held accountable (and most likely imprisoned, but not on my tax dollars) for any and all upcoming preventable diseases the next generation will suffer from.

          Alzheimer’s disease is a very complicated, multifactorial medical problem related to AGING, which has increased in recent years…due to the HUGE INCREASE IN LIFE EXPECTANCY (translation: AGING) of our generation due to (and I’ll make it simple for you in the form of a list):

          – pharmacological interventions (yea…”big pharma”…watch out! – but then again, you would’ve died of an infection when you got that cut at age 3 if it wasn’t for them),
          – an increase in the security of the places we inhabit (translation: improved police, firefighters, ambulance service, better building codes etc),
          – easier access to a larger amount of food (translation: you can buy however much food you want at any time, in any place)
          – faster access to medical care (because even a hippie non-believer as yourself would take their kid with a broken arm or appendicitis to a hospital for “unhealthy modern day treatments”, right?)
          – etc, etc, etc

          Please do yourself a favor and come out from the rock that you’re living in… prove all of your “followers” how much you believe in the garbage that you post on this blog by traveling to a foreign third world country where they also don’t vaccinate or have access to the services we do (and NOT because they choose to) and live there for a few months based on your belief system. It is incredible how ignorant, uneducated and damaging to the WHOLE population your personal ideas are. It’s unfortunate really.

          January 12th, 2014 11:53 pm Reply
      • Laura

        One of the main features in an autistic person is high heavy metal content believed to be caused by an inability to rid the body of these metals properly. Alzheimers patients also have a build up of heavy metal in their system, specifically the brain, which causes it to deteriorate and the lobes to spread from each other which inhibits proper communication between areas of the brain. It is the very much the same thing, just a little different in its manifestation. Just like measles and chicken pox and allergies and all diseases that cause rashes are the same – they may not be the same VIRUS but the body’s response is the same. The virus goes to the areas of the body that white blood cells can’t go to – the micro capillaries, specifically of the skin. Your body responds to things in basically the same way to similar types of things. The response ability and protocol may be hereditary but the triggers are purely from life.

        April 24th, 2011 12:45 pm Reply
        • Laura

          Just a note – I know that allergies are not a virus but it is the body over responding to foreign antigens. Contact rashes are those antigens in the body in areas where the immune system can not get rid of them. All this information is easy to find and understand.

          April 24th, 2011 12:48 pm Reply
    • Rachel

      Alzheimer’s disease is NOT “autism for adults.” I take great offense at this statement, as it is clearly wrong and uneducated. I am a speech pathologist who currently works with both children with autism, as well as geriatric patients, including many with Alzheimer’s disease. Let me assure you, these two conditions do not have the same neurological base in the brain, they do not present in the same manor, their genetic component is not identical. There are many exercises adults can do during their lifetime, both physical and cognitive, to reduce the risk of Alzheimer’s. The same cannot be said for Autism.

      I encourage you not to spread these false statements with parents and individuals who may not know the difference. I have a Master’s degree in this subject, what are your qualifications, Sarah, the Healthy Economist, to make this blanket statment?

      I will not even begin to discuss your views on vaccinations. While I support every parent’s right to choose individually for their children, I think it is highly irresponsible of you, as a non medical professional, to state, “Doctors can be wrong,” and “Pharmaceutical companies can’t be trusted.” Yes, doctors certainly can be wrong, but they have been to medical school, and you have not, and therefore I will give my doctor’s recommendations more weight than a blog online that is heavily weighted with personal preferences and not medicine and science.

      June 9th, 2011 7:34 pm Reply
      • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

        Keep on worshiping those white coats, Rachel! :)

        Why don’t you take a look at a post I put out today that shows how much money doctors are making from prescribing you drugs? Drug kickbacks – now THERE’S a concept that I’m sure they were taught in medical school. How to best make money from the sheeple.

        June 9th, 2011 8:54 pm Reply
        • Mary

          Sarah, why are you so condescending and rude to people who oppose you? Haven’t you ever heard the expression “You catch more flies with honey”? If this was truly important to you then I would think you would be more humble and sympathetic to those who don’t agree. Instead you come off arrogant and cold and it almost seems as if you delight in upsetting someone. Truth will withstand any form of scrutiny but your response sends people away with their fingers plugged in their ears. I found your entire article abrasive and haughty. With all the exclamation points and CAPITAL LETTERS it was hard not to view it as an aggressive scare tactic. If there was any truth to it, I’m afraid it passed me by as I can’t respect the manner in which you addressed the issue. One more note, my child has been vaccinated, and I breastfed the first year ensuring the benefits of my immune system being passed to him. He is healthy and vibrant. Never has he had an ear infection, the flu or any other such maladies that seem to plague so many young children. The worst he’s had is a diaper rash. I do believe that much of the reason is his diet. We are very careful about what he eats and he takes an all natural vitamin every day. I am a careful, perceptive, protective and loving mom. I wish you would not portray those of us who have made informed decisions to vaccinate as anything contrary to that. I did my reading; I did my research, I hassled many doctors, RN’s, homeopathic specialists, alternative medicine doctors, etc. and I found the risks of not vaccinating far more terrifying. I vaccinated my son and I don’t regret it. If there is a resurgence of polio, german measles, etc. then I will rest assured that my sweet son will not be at risk. I am always reading, reading to learn. I don’t want to win, I want to do what is best for my child.

          September 24th, 2011 5:23 pm Reply
          • Betty

            I think it’s ironic that Sarah replied to almost every comment, except for this one, which is so well written and expressed.

            December 12th, 2011 10:11 pm
          • Nicole

            As the mother of a child with Autism I do believe there is A DEFINITE LINK BETWEEN VACCINATIONS AND AUTISM. I do not know about Alzheimer’s as I never done any research on the subject.

            During labor I had an infection and when my son was born they did a spinal tap and pumped him full of antibiotics AND gave him his Hep B shot. I continued to vaccinate him per my doctor’s instructions. He was crawling, walking and talking early. My son was a vibrant little boy who responded to his name, understood when I asked him a question, laughed and said words. At 18 months BOOM! It was like he lost his words, he started lining up toys, walking on tip toes. THERE ARE MILLIONS OF PARENTS OUT THERE WHO BELIEVE THE MMR SHOT CAUSED AN ADVERSE REACTION IN THEIR CHILDREN AND THOSE CHILDREN NOW HAVE AUTISM. I believe there is a genetic component that may make you more susceptible to autism, just like certain types of cancer or even Alzheimer’s. But something has to trigger it.

            How do we know all children can handle the “junk” put in these shots? Maybe it’s not a one size fits all type of deal. And the pediatricians “the research says, the research says” What about all the parents that witnessed with their own eyes what these shots did to their children?

            Am I worried something will happen to my son now that he is not getting his vaccines. NO. I’m more worried that if I do choose to vaccinate him, he will again lose the few words he has started to say. That he will end up WORSE than before. That all the effort and time and tears that have been put into trying to help him, trying to make him better will be for nothing.

            Like sara said, you can choose to vaccinate at any time but you can’t choose to say wait I changed my mind, take it out. Or it’s hurting him, take it out.

            It’s a personal choice. May not be right for everyone but Sara is entitled to her opinion as everyone else is and this is her blog so I guess if we don’t like what she is saying we have the choice to not read it.

            December 14th, 2011 7:23 pm
          • Callie Rosen

            Mary your comment truly touched my heart. I too have vaccinated my little one and came upon this blog merely by accident. Sarah, while I applaud your efforts to give mothers and fathers a different point of view – you failed at accomplishing your goal. Your blog was riddled with emotional outbursts, clouded conclusions. As a reader, I want you to tell me HOW you came to your conclusion. Quote other activists and physicians on this side and give me the FACTS. I’m a big girl I can draw my own conclusions, but I can’t do so when you do not give me a clear avenue that there is true cause and effect here. Your leaving out some very pertinent factors such as diet and environment. My daughter will be 1 in a few weeks and she has not had an ear infection and ANY illness since I brought her home from the hospital. I breast fed for 6 months passing on my immunity and I only feed her organic food which I puree and make for her. I also stay home with her, keeping her environment clean – since germs get passed around in daycare’s (not all, but some so I decided not to take the chance in her first year of life).

            I think you do a disservice to your arguments when you cloud them with emotional rancor and not clear evidence-based reporting. Should I trust you, a person with no medical background and fails to support her conclusions with facts over my own physician? What would you do in my shoes? If I told you to feed your child a jar of (fill in the blank – and my argument is filled with adjectives – it makes you strong, beautiful, smart) and your doctor told you not to – would you trust me?

            New medical research has linked Alzheimer’s with plaque billed up in the brain – the same kind of plaque that builds up in the heart. There is a deep correlation between those who have heart disease/high cholesterol and Alzheimer’s. Heavy metals? Autism? Not sure you drew a strong correlations between the two for me to consider it credible.

            February 4th, 2012 7:03 pm
          • watchmom3

            Mary, with all due respect, the commenters were aggressively rude to Sarah and pretty much called her article, “deception”. It is very disheartening to have people come to a blog and make a judgment based on so little information as “Fry” and Rachel seem to have done. I would highly recommend that if someone disagrees with the article, to wait and fully research the subject and THEN make a comment, if needed, and be polite about it. It is like being in someone’s home; you just don’t treat the host with disrespect, even when you disagree. I have known many highly educated people that did NOT have all the facts, Master’s or not. Make your case in a way that helps others see what you see. Most people are really nervous about going against mainstream ideas. We DO have to make the best decision we can, and it takes all of us pulling together to get the information that we need. Please don’t shoot the messenger. I have visited with several parents who told me unequivocally that they KNEW their child was vaccine injured. No way would I ever try to dismiss their experience because someone else disagreed. We really have to understand that everyone’s experience is different and we all understand life’s many complex issues at DIFFERENT times in our lives. In the end, you are responsible. Not the government, not CPS, not your family, friends, etc, just the parents. That is who must have room to decide and then go forward. Buyer Beware; not everyone has you or your child’s best interest at heart. Thanks Sarah, for a place to come and discuss these IMPORTANT issues for everyone.

            February 5th, 2012 4:47 pm
          • Jessica H (@Jessica_H81)

            Just because someone is vaccinated does not mean that they will not contract the disease. If there is a pandemic of some sort (polio, etc) vaccinated folks can contract the diseases as well. In fact, there was recently a whooping cough outbreak in my state and the 13 children hospitalized were all up-to-date on their vaccinations.

            May 15th, 2012 12:30 pm
          • Jennifer

            Mary, what you fail to realize, is that your son most certainly can get german measles polio, etc, even if he is fully vaccinated. I commend you for your emphasis on good nutrition for your son, that may have saved him from the harmful effects of the vaccines. Unfortunately you are putting your faith in the vaccines, vs a strong immune system, and instead gave into the scare tactics of the medical community. What you have done, instead is put your son at increased risk of chronic disease later in his life.

            September 16th, 2012 2:13 pm
          • mae

            vaccination does not mean that your son is immune.
            & if you knew anything about polio you would know that according to the CDC 96% of the people that come in contact with it never show any signs or symptoms. LESS then 1% that become infected go on to become paralyzed or die.

            December 10th, 2012 12:01 pm
          • Beth

            If there is a resurgence all vaccinated people will be at risk. Vaccinations don’t have even close to a 100% effective rate.

            October 14th, 2013 12:39 pm
        • Nicole – mother of three

          Just because people earn money from their work does not mean that they are the devil. Bill Gates is one if the wealthiest people in the world- do you not have a computer? Are you against having computers because Bill has made too much money selling you parts and programs?
          I love how you said that you, and I quote
          ” have never met a vaccinated child that is healthier than a non-vaccinated child.”
          Well, I have seen 2 such examples. Maybe you need to do more research. I also have seen that my friends daughter has to be on high alert every time she gets sick because she can possibly be inflicted with a disease because she is not vaccinated..

          January 21st, 2013 1:39 pm Reply
        • R.A.Gordon

          It is important for people to get vaccinated because if nobody got vaccinated for diseases that where absent from America for ages would return with a vengence since no one would have natural immunity to it. The people that don’t get vaccinated are protected from the people that did get vaccinated. Plus everyone may have forgotten about the eradication of one of the greatest scourges known to mankind: smallpox, which killed millions a year for the young and old. Even teenagers, in the prime of their life, on average could get a highly deadly version of it that is has an incredibly high fatality rate. Polio is now endemic in only three countries because of world wide vaccination programs. Remember Polio caused great ammounts of suffering in children (iron lung, our 32 president being unable to walk, children being unable to live their lives fully). Plus, sometimes it pays to be safe than sorry; people backing in the late 1800s would send their children from America to France to recieve Pastuer’s rabies vaccine that would only help if recieved almost immediantly after being bitten by a possibly rabid dog. Today people who go to the hospital after being bitten by a dog might recieve the rabies vaccine, if there is a strong possibility if the dog is rabid. The consequences of being bit by a rabid dog and not recieveing the vaccine immediatly (it has to be immediately or else the virus has too much of a foot hold in the body to successfully be rid of the virus) is terrible.Before the vaccine, Pastuer’s men who were creating the vaccine said that if they were to be bitten by the rabid beasts that they were handling, they hope that there companions would do the merciful thing and shoot them (Wasik and Murphy, Rabid: A Cultural History of the World’s Most Diabolical Virus).

          February 11th, 2013 3:40 pm Reply
        • mark

          i hope you realize that prescribing drugs is not all that doctors do, they first record symptoms and make accurate logs of the patient to reach a diagnosis and then treat the problem if there is one present to the best of there ability, also the way you make it sound like there paid to force you drugs would get them kicked out of there jobs incredibly quickly with a revocation of there medical licence. i wholeheartedly agree with Rachel (also you reference doctors medicating people in response to her pointblank proving your statement was incorrect, stop dodging and admit that you were wrong before changing topics to yet another false line of argument).

          December 27th, 2013 3:08 pm Reply
      • Dawn

        Rachel, doctors have gone to medical school but they do not learn ANYTHING of the drugs they administer or prescribe. It is just not a part of their job.

        Source: How to Raise a Healthy Child in Spite of Your Doctor, written by a pediatrician, Robert S. Mendelsohn. “Although American medical schools teach their students very little about pharmacology, they do teach them to exploit all the new drugs and medical technologies that are available. New drugs and equipment appear almost daily, spawned by the laboratories of the pharmaceutical industry and the medical equipment manufacturers. More often than not, they are unproven and potentially unsafe. ” He goes on in that chapter on how little the FDA regulates these drugs, and how doctors almost never investigate them themselves before giving them out to patients, EVEN WHEN concerns have been raised.

        So I will not trust a medical degree just because it’s that. I will trust the facts, the research, and the doctor who knows them. (I haven’t found one yet!)

        July 8th, 2011 2:28 am Reply
        • Betty

          I am a pharmacist and let me say that while doctor’s are not well versed in pharmacology (I do agree with that), we as pharmacists are. We have read the research (new and old drugs) and we (in general) have good, un-biased opinions. The biggest “kick-backs” we get are free pens, and those (kick-backs in general, to any & all medical personnel) were outlawed in 2009.

          December 12th, 2011 10:10 pm Reply
          • Dayna

            Do pharmacists prescribe medicine? And do they question why a doctor prescribes something? I think not.

            February 14th, 2012 11:20 pm
        • mark

          dawn, i can think of many reasons why to disregard your post.
          1. sources used to reinforce argument, one
          2. using an argument from someone with a medical degree in your own argument as why not to trust people with medical degrees.
          3. the lack of listing sources of the ‘facts’ and ‘research’ which you use in your argument.
          4. also your comment had nothing to do with Rachel, she correctly stated that Alzheimer’s is not autism for adults and din’t include any information on drugs (when writing responses it helps if you actually read the comment)

          December 27th, 2013 3:22 pm Reply
        • Mark

          Why bother looking Dawn. If you found a Doctor that said vaccinations are good, you would call him a quack and move on till you found a Doctor that supported your view. Then you would come onto this site and tell everyone how great he is ….

          February 27th, 2014 11:08 pm Reply
        • Mark

          Why bother researching Doctors Dawn? If you found one that said vaccines are safe you would call him a quack and move on to the next Doctor … eventually you will find one that supports your already formed point of view and he can be your hero …. :-)

          February 27th, 2014 11:11 pm Reply
      • Beth

        Dear Rachel,
        In reply to your post above:
        I have been to medical school. I have been taught, and believed, and propagated “truths” which now we know to be inaccurate and sometimes downright dangerous.
        1. Doctors certainly can be wrong. I am a good example. In fact, Doctors (including me) ARE wrong and every year we are proved to be so despite our well intentioned efforts to do the best for our patients.
        2. Pharmaceutical companies have been shown to have a much less than perfect record. One does not have to have been to medical school to be aware of their sometimes horrendous exploits, false claims, and legally forced ‘repentance’ and withdrawal of numerous ‘wonder drugs’. Despite that they also provide us with the many drugs that we continue to use to great effect and which we would be ‘lost’ without.
        Someone as educated and intelligent as you should be the first to encourage people to take personal responsibility to be wise and informed about their own medical care. To use your words, “I think it is highly irresponsible of you” to promote the untruth that Doctors (including myself) and pharmaceutical companies, are infallible and always trustworthy. This is simply untrue.
        Individuals have the freedom, the right and the responsibility to do their own research and be as truthfully informed as possible even if they are sometimes misinformed (as are their doctors). Please learn to respect and encourage people for desiring the best for their children whatever their current understanding or opinion is on a particular subject.
        Kind regards,

        November 13th, 2012 12:13 pm Reply
        • Mark

          You miss the point Beth. No matter what research they are confronted with anti-vaccination types won’t accept it. They only accept the evidence that conforms to their already formed point of view. If 999 Doctors stood up and said here is the proof vaccines are safe, and 1 stood up and said no they are not, who do you think Sarah that runs this site would believe?? Be honest… It’s a matter of faith for them, not a matter of science, research, informed choice etc etc.

          February 27th, 2014 11:16 pm Reply
      • Beth

        Just one example of many I’m afraid.

        November 13th, 2012 1:57 pm Reply
      • Elena

        Who cares about doctors at medical school? That’s the only falanx or shield they can hold that they have been at medical school? Und was? And what? Does it mean that what they managed to learn is the one and only truth, what can not be doubted and questioned based on personal experience and observation? Going and completing tertiary studies is a mere entrance ticket to start to humbly learn, listen and watch and question, and raise dobts. “Scientists” of any sort when they serve the institutional establishment are not a finger’ s length better than a healing medicine man in the Amazonas delta.

        November 28th, 2012 11:01 pm Reply
        • Mark

          Well I don’t even know what that means …

          February 27th, 2014 11:18 pm Reply
    • Laura’s Last Ditch–Vintage Kitchenwares

      The woman with Alzheimer’s at the nursing home last week was acting just like my autistic son.

      November 6th, 2011 6:35 pm Reply
    • emily

      Vaccinations aside…. Alzheimers is NOTHING like Autism, at all, at any age or stage. At all. In fact, that comment alone is enough to show me your limited medical understanding, or for that matter, common sense. Clearly, you are unfamiliar with Autism and/or Alzheimers, or you would not draw that conclusion, even roughly…in fact, save for the uncommon learning loss that rare cases of Autism have, there is no similarities to the lists of symptoms or brain locations attacked, ect . . .
      I know some unvaccinated kids who get sick all the time. My oldest, has only been sick once in his 5 years of vaccinated on the doctor schedule life. If your entire argument is based on the limited pool of people you encounter, then I could write a counter argument based solely on my pool and it would state the opposite.
      What you choose to do and believe is wonderful, and I’m sure you believe your child’s best interests are at heart, but don’t pretend for a second that everyone here who doesn’t agree with you is just feeding into a government scam, and you might suspect that a few people are more likely to believe a medical doctor than a mom who makes excessively incorrect assumptions such as “Alzheimers disease is Autism for adults.”
      But a third of the American population wiped out in the early 1900s from the influenza might regret their lack of vaccinations….more than a little.

      December 16th, 2011 11:31 pm Reply
    • amy

      The tetanus only shots for teens and adults also include thimerosal. FYI

      July 20th, 2012 4:24 pm Reply
    • Steve Judd

      No it’s not. Not even close.
      Yes vaccines have aluminum in them, but no way near the required levels to be toxic. getting older is closer linked to dementia than aluminum toxicity

      April 12th, 2013 2:21 pm Reply
    • Marshelle Rogers

      Do you drink or eat anything with blue dye? Kool aid , candy fruit snacks, it has more aluminum in it than a vaccine.

      July 24th, 2013 1:00 am Reply
      • daum

        There’s something to REALLY look at. The food we put in our bodies. WAY MORE impact than we realize.

        October 7th, 2013 4:39 pm Reply
    • mark

      but the levels of these chemicals is so low (trace amounts, i’m talking parts per billion here) that it will make no overall difference.

      December 27th, 2013 2:59 pm Reply
  • April

    The whooping cough vaccine is being peddled on everyone right now. Dr.s / pharmaceutical companies are encouraging parents and siblings, and anyone else who leaves their house to get it because you should "protect the little ones." Of course, that makes you a bad person if you won't get one little shot to protect babies.

    May 25th, 2010 3:35 pm Reply
    • Betty

      I have a very close friend who’s 8 week old baby caught “whooping cough” (pertussis) and almost died from it. And cases like this are rising all over the country. So yes, it is very important for the pregnant mother and people surrounding the baby to have this vaccine.

      December 12th, 2011 10:13 pm Reply
      • Jessica

        My siblings ,who are both vaccinated, caught whooping cough at school and passed it to my 6 month old. It’s good to remember that just because a person is vaccinated does not mean they have immunity. It’s also important to remember that when a 2 month old gets vaccinated, they are not immune to any of those diseases right away. It’s not until the vaccine series is complete(around 6-12 months) that immunity “should” be attained. Even vaccines are not a GUARANTEE.

        December 13th, 2011 3:01 pm Reply
        • Gina

          You realize you need a booster for Pertussis. So if your siblings had it years and years ago it faded.

          December 10th, 2012 6:42 pm Reply
      • Sarah

        I do NOT recommend the Pertussis vaccine AT ALL! I was given this vaccine as a “standard” when I was just a tiny baby and had a SEVERE reaction to it! My mom had to bring me to the ER to find out I was reacting to the vaccine (the pertussis part of it). I was lucky I got there in time. I was unresponsive and lethargic. As if I was already dead. And I WOULD have DIED if I wasn’t brought to the ER in time. I would have DIED from this vaccine!! That is incredibly scary!

        December 30th, 2011 8:06 pm Reply
        • R.A.Gordon

          I am sorry to say this, but the fact that you responded negitively to this makes you a very small minority. What you basically say, in a different situation, is that if you have a reaction to Peanut Butter than you say that no one should eat peanut butter AT ALL! Same thing with all of the other things that someone can have an adverse reaction to.

          February 11th, 2013 3:49 pm Reply
    • Amy

      Well, my son had the pertussis vaccine and had a severe reaction to it and the Dr. said he won’t ever have that vaccine again. My other children have also had reactions to vaccines. I wish I knew then what I know now. I would not have vaccinated any of my five children.

      March 1st, 2012 4:11 pm Reply
    • CMWmd

      actually, the reason why PERTUSSIS vaccines are being so widely advertised right now, is because whooping cough was basically eradicated, but is now back in full force thanks to all the anti-vaccine propaganda.

      April 9th, 2012 5:31 pm Reply
      • Sarah, TheHealthyHomeEconomist

        If that’s true why are most of the people getting whooping cough vaccinated?

        April 9th, 2012 6:39 pm Reply
        • Stacy

          I just came across your post as I was researching pertussis. As of today, my six year old, my husband and myself are suffering with pertussis. We all have been vaccinated and I am an EMT and a nursing student who had my booster just 3 years ago as it is required. Our case came as one of our girl scout moms doesn’t believe in vacinnating her children. Her six month old was hospitalized with pertussis and almost died. His sister came down with it, followed by another one of our girl scouts (who was vacinnated), another of our
          girls suffered with pneumonia because, at that time, we were unaware of the pertussis and her doctors did not even think to check for something very rare nowadays. So normally I would fully support vaccinations; however, this has me very aware of how much I need to learn about vaccinations. Had I researched when my child was born, I dare say I may have chosen to wait. The mom who doesn’t vaccinate said even though her son was severely ill that it does not change her option because those who have the vaccine still got pertussis. Her view is that if it doesnt work anyhow, why risk injecting other chemicals in her child? This has made me think and thats why i am learning all i can about what I have potentially exposed my daughter to. I went by what her doctors advised me and now I am questioning everything.
          Thanks for everyones input. I just felt that my experience may help both sides look at how much we don’t truly know. (Sorry if my words double, for some reason my keyboard is sticking!q ahhho ) :)

          can about what i put in my daughter when she got her shots, per her peds doctor, whom i trusted.her son was severely sick

          and her doctors never thought to test for it.

          May 11th, 2012 1:55 am Reply
        • Lisa

          Are you saying that most people who get whooping cough are vaccinated and the ones who are not don’t get it? We forget that people used to die of Polio all the time. Meningitis is not fun. And neither is pneumonia which can also kill you. I don’t immunize for the flu and didn’t for Hep B when my son was born as I was pretty sure he would not be you know, doing things to contract Hep B. I did just give him the MMR today at 25 months. I was a little nervous due to what I have read and heard but part of me feels like we live in a society and we need to take care of each other…part of this means making sure I am doing my part so diseases don’t break out that haven’t for a long time. These are hard decisions but I also think in the end, after all the research, what we have to rely on is our instincts. Fear can cloud those all too well. Whooping cough is preventable if everyone is immunized. Lastly, I think the drug companies need to be held in some other category as does the health industry. Non profit all the way baby. No way should there be profits to be made regarding people’s health. Getting 13 vaccines by the time you are 12 to prevent diseases seems reasonable – 30? 35? Ridiculous. I think ADHD and Autism are more about diet and environment than vaccines….my two noneducated cents.
          Have a wonderful day everyone!~

          August 23rd, 2012 4:56 pm Reply
          • Jennifer

            The whooping cough epidemics in the US today are mainly among the fully vaccinated, which proves vaccination does not eradicate disease

            September 16th, 2012 2:18 pm
        • mark

          Sarah, people are getting vaccinated more for whooping cough because its becoming a problem again, you need to remember the link between the disease appearing and people not wanting to get it 😛

          December 27th, 2013 3:28 pm Reply
          • Jennifer

            Mark, it has been shown over and over again, that the current epidemic of whooping cough is mostly among the fully vaccinated..either the vaccine doesn’t work, or the vaccine itself is causing the disease…probably both…:)..if I am a mother of fully vaccinated children ( which I am kids are among the unvaccinated) and my children come down with whooping cough, I would be igmorant to NOT question vaccines.

            December 29th, 2013 10:23 am
      • Vachespagnole

        Or…. maybe these illnesses come in full force because humans continue to pursue destructive cultural models (out-of-control animal-husbandry, destruction of natural water-ways and forests, monoculture, war, etc etc etc…) Something like 2/3 or these infectious diseases start out in pigs, fowl, cows, etc, so instead of burying our heads in the sand and pointing fingers at antivaccination advocates, it seems like the human race has to do some serious soul-searching as to how we live on earth! Let me suggest that Permaculture and Vegetarianism/smart omnivorous culture would really save life.

        August 12th, 2012 7:40 pm Reply
        • awed and amazed

          Beautiful reply. I hope we all get the picture soon.

          Thanks Vachespagnole!

          October 3rd, 2012 3:41 pm Reply
      • Jennifer

        It’s NOT due to anti-vaccine propaganda!! The majority of kids who are getting pertussis are fully vaccinated. Check out what the CDC has to say about it!

        “The effects of whole-cell pertussis vaccine wane after 5 to 10 years, and infection in a vaccinated person causes nonspecific symptoms (3-7). Vaccinated adolescents and adults may serve as reservoirs for silent infection and become potential transmitters to unprotected infants (3-11). The whole-cell vaccine for pertussis is protective only against clinical disease, not against infection (15-17). Therefore, even young, recently vaccinated children may serve as reservoirs and potential transmitters of infection.”

        Looks like the vaccinations are what is CAUSING the pertussis epidemic! You trust in your vaccines, and I’ll trust my immune system!

        October 17th, 2012 3:08 pm Reply
        • elabuet


          I don’t think you are looking at the whole picture here. No, the vaccine is not perfect, but it does offer protection. You reference the CDC’s article, but are leaving out the part where they still recommend the vaccine, or that children who do not have it are 8 times more likely to contract the disease.

          December 16th, 2013 7:37 pm Reply
          • Jennifer

            “But you are leaving out the part where they still recommend the vaccine”..

            Seriously!?!? I find that completely ludicrous!… That they still reccomend the vaccine, when it has proven to be the instrument in spreading the disease. The pertussis vaccine is one of the worst for causing severw adverse reactions. Here in Nashville, recently rhere were 11 babies that died and thei deaths were directly related to the pertussis vaccine…the vaccinated are stilll getting whooping cough, the vaccinated are the ones exposing the vulnerable to pertussis (‘reservoirs of infection’)..the vaccines are causing the death of babies, and yet the CDC still recommends it…do you not see the logic?

            December 29th, 2013 10:51 am
          • Jennifer

            I apologize for the spelling errors in my previous beefy fingers have trouble with tiny keyboards..

            I just want to add that I my friend has had two babies that had serious side affects from the pertussis vaccine. They both got encephalitis from the vaccine at 2 months old..the first is now a mentally challenged adult..the second baby died within a few days of vaccination

            December 29th, 2013 11:03 am
      • Elena

        Yeah, or because of young adults who have been vaccinated, but obviously not having life long immunity, as with all other childhood deseases. Great Pharma can start to push same crap on naive adults. Whooping caugh hasn’t been common during XX. century Europe and US, before mass vaccination started. Chicken pox, mumps, rubela, measles were completed usually under age 6, with life long immunity, no complications. Yes, this old generation of mine hasn”t even heard about asthma, childhood diabetes, cancer at a young age, horribile autism and other life long degenerative deseases. No with mass vaccination instead of lifelong immunity life long deseases are produced. Man is again smarter than God, Nature, Creation as you like.One question remaining “Cui prodest” Whose interest”?

        November 28th, 2012 11:11 pm Reply
      • Nelli Farkas

        Go get one yourself! Yours might be faded!

        December 11th, 2012 7:28 pm Reply
  • Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist

    Hi April, thanks for the excellent comment. All 3 of my kids have had pertussis (whooping cough). My daughter was only 15 months old when she had it. I am SO glad I never vaccinated for it and they now have natural immunity which is far better than vaccine immunity which lasts for only a few years and then you need to be injected with a cocktail of poison once again. By the way, the DPT vaccine has been linked to Type 1 Diabetes in children and frequently makes its shocking and out of nowhere appearance at adolescence. Vaccine damage is not only immediate, it can continue to cause issues years later. Not worth it by a long shot.

    May 25th, 2010 3:47 pm Reply
    • Laura

      Hi Sarah. Just some interesting thoughts on DTaP, DTP – whatever. Kidney damage/diabetes are hand in hand. Diptheria can cause no symptoms yet fester in the body, causing long term damage such as nerve damage, KIDNEY DAMAGE and an enlarged heart. I highlight kidney damage because of your mention of diabetes. But nerve damage is obviously an enormous issue with vaccinated people. Enlarged hearts for “no apparently reason” with our youth is also on the rise. A well published case of a boy in Holland, Michigan, that happened recently is only one of a staggering amount of mounting cases. Ironically, when that happened is when I decided to find out the symptoms of diptheria.

      My daughter, after a severe reaction to her one year shots (with minor issues from previous vaccines – minor in what was SEEN anyhow) she was addicted to drinking water ALL the time and she also suffered from several kidney/bladder infections in a short period of time. These effects have finally fallen away after a couple years and I had her kidneys checked, at least with a blood and urine test. Also, HSP is a common side effect of vaccines – something my daughter had but only minor and the doctors refused to dx (it in spite of the symptom of petechia all over her body for almost a year with no fall in platelet count) – which causes kidney problems. It is obvious of the link here and that people are GETTING the diseases (body reaction/symptoms) in some warped way but not in a way to cause the proper long term antibodies. Anyhow – just check out the symptoms of diptheria. I found it fairly obvious.

      April 24th, 2011 1:29 pm Reply
    • Darc

      Sarah, is it possible to have an annotation for the study? I am very interested, for several reasons I won’t bore you all with. Thanks so much! Please email me directly (as I may not get the response here), thank you! (

      April 25th, 2011 11:20 am Reply
    • clara

      I also don’t vaccinate & I have also experienced whooping cough with 3 of my kids. I have not ever read anything to guarantee full natural immunity from the actual bortadella infection. Do you have any source for this? i worry b/c my kids seem to have similar symptoms now and I am hoping its not WC all over again. I also want to add that my fully non-vaxed 12 year old developed type 1 diabetes at age 10. It was out of the blue, but not as bad as you might think.

      July 8th, 2012 8:37 pm Reply
    • Becky

      I would have a cousin right now if she would have taken the pertussis vaccine or the people around her. What would have been her chances if she gotten the vaccine? I got all of my vaccinations when I was young and I am still healthy. I get the flu vaccine semi- regularly, and my only reactions to that was a sore shoulder the next day. I find that there is no real problem mass vaccinating the population, and problems only arise in a small percent of the people.

      February 11th, 2013 4:10 pm Reply
  • April

    Sarah, thank you for this post. It is by far one of the most concise, clear articles I have read in a long time, and it makes the best, most reasonable arguments for non-vaccination. It also gives parents who hesitate to go against Dr.'s orders an alternative, "wait a while." It may not prevent all damage, but it certainly can make a difference. I am one of those moms who has 4 children. The oldest was right on track with her vaccines, the second was until age 4 baby number 3 didn't get any until age 2 (and won't get any more) and the youngest hasn't had any. My first child was in the hospital 5 times before her second birthday, and it was never an injury, every single time it was some sort of infection either directly or eventually resulting from an altered immune system. She had high fevers and would vomit until her skin would turn yellow, and we would have her in the hospital for days trying to re-hydrate her. Every time I would say, "she just had the — vaccine" and they would say "Oh that doesn't cause this." So I believed them and went on poisoning my daughter. Then my son was born and he had strange illnesses. He had fifth disease (a common virus, but kids are only supposed to get it one time like chicken pox) 5 times before he was 1 and a half. Then thirty days after his Chicken pox vaccine, he got shingles. The dermatologist we saw said "he was more likely to get struck by lightening after being bitten by a shark than have that result {to his skin biopsy}." He still wears the scar on his arm from that biopsy, a constant reminder of the damage I have done in my ignorance. Not to mention the horrible pain he suffered for days and days with the shingles themselves. My third child had no vaccines at all until his second birthday. At that point he had just become a new big brother, and his two older siblings were in school. I wasn't willing to vaccinate the baby, so I consented to 2 non-combined vaccines for him. It was whooping cough and HiB. I was told that those were the two things most likely to affect the baby soon. Two weeks later, my 2 year old was diagnosed with RSV. Moat children in any kind of school environment get and get rid of RSV before they are two years old, but my son (and my nephew who still gets sicker than he should) really struggled to get rid of it. We had to do 3 rounds of steroids to clear his lungs. I hated putting further medicines in his body, but we couldn't get the inflammation to go down, and he couldn't breath. Less than a week after the shots he also developed erythema multiformi which is an autoimmune reaction that is often classified as idiopathic meaning "I don't know what caused it." Well it was a reaction to the shots. (Search the internet for images of it. You will be horrified. Luckily it isn't painful, but it certainly looks like it is.) My baby, who is now 1 year old has never had a vaccine, she has never had a rash, exczema (the rest have), a cold, a runny nose, an ear infection (the rest have). I know that eventually she will get sick, but I firmly believe she won't get as sick as the rest of them do. Luckily we have found a real food diet, and live in the country away from normal city pollution, and are exposed to things that naturally make our immune systems stronger. My older children are getting better out here, but I will never recommend a vaccine, and I will always regret that I didn't know more then.

    May 25th, 2010 4:02 pm Reply
    • medstudent

      cold, rash, non-painful rash, ear infection, rsv complications etc etc. not submitting that any of those have any link to vaccines but for arguments sake lets say you are 100% correct. how do u think that compares to the mothers of the children in the 1964-1965 rubella outbreak in california who saw their children come out with heart abnormalities, impaired vision, deafness or mental retardation? Get some perspective outside of your protected life provided by vaccines.

      October 7th, 2013 3:12 am Reply
      • mark

        not to mention even before that when people were exposed to nasty’s like antrax, small pox, malaria, dysentery, Spanish flue and black death…

        December 27th, 2013 3:42 pm Reply
        • Jennifer

          Mark, funny that you meention those particular diseases, because for the majority of those there has never been mass vaccination , and yet (at least in developed nations that have access to sanitation, hygeine, clean water, anabundance of healthy food) they aren’t around…the only disease that you mention above that we have had mass vaccinations for is smallpox… The small pox vaccine was itself responsible for huge epidemics in England and the Phillipines. Mass vaccinations for small pox were discontinued before small px was eradicated because of the severe reactions to the vaccine, and due to the fact the vaccine itself was causing the disease. The onlu ones vaccinated for small pox and anthrax today, are the military. Many of them have severe reactions to the vaccines (many of them develop small pox), and go on to have chronic debilitating illness caused by the vaccines (one of those is my brother who was in the Marines)

          December 29th, 2013 11:31 am Reply
  • Anne Fischer Silva, Clinical Nutritionist

    I try to be as holistic as possible but I have to say tetanus is the single vaccine I am in favor of. I witnessed someone in the emergency room with tetanus (she got it from a rose thorn) and believe me, it's a nasty, nasty bug. Modern medicine is not all bad; this is one area I say get the vaccination.

    May 25th, 2010 5:12 pm Reply
  • Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist

    Thanks so much for commenting, Anne. I am wondering about this lady you saw in the ER with tetanus from a rose thorn. I'm thinking the lady did not treat it properly at the time .. keeping it very clean etc. and it got infected. My son had a thorn go 3 or 4 inches into his foot once. I kept it extremely clean and watched it carefully. We never got a tetanus shot for it. My recommendation is to make sure things get taken care of properly to start with then a tetanus shot is rarely necessary.

    May 25th, 2010 5:20 pm Reply
    • Fonda LaShay

      I think you are exactly right here. I mean I am thrilled that we have all this life saving technology now days.. but I think that people are to willing to take XYZ drug or treatment just because it is available. I am always shocked by this willingness (which is really just that they have been taught/marketed to wrongly), what do they think our ancestor’s did – they did not have a CVS to pick up pepto or a doctor to give them a shot. No, they just ate well and used what nature provided.

      I am not a fan of taking something that was created in a lab with a person having to wear safety glasses and safety gloves.

      July 9th, 2011 12:44 pm Reply
      • Becky

        Our ancestors also had high mortality rates due to the bubonic plague, polio, dipetheria, smallpox, TB, among a host of others.

        February 11th, 2013 4:18 pm Reply
        • Aaron

          There isn’t an effective vaccine for tuberculosis.

          March 31st, 2015 8:23 pm Reply
  • Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist

    FANTASTIC info, Jack! I've been wanting to find a study with this info for years. Now I know where to point Moms and Dads who want to know the truth that unvaccinated kids are far healthier than their vaccinated peers. Thank you for taking the time to share this valuable information.

    May 25th, 2010 6:32 pm Reply
  • Jamie and Trey + One

    Sarah, thank you so much for this post. I just got done printing off all the links and plan on reading them over the next few days. I want to be educated on this issue so I can make a decision I feel good about. It is intimidating when your doctor makes you feel like a bad mom for not vaccinating and not "doing what is right for your child". After reading the literature I am hoping to be better prepared for comments like that. Thanks again!

    May 25th, 2010 6:37 pm Reply
  • Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist

    Jamie, the only ammo the docs have is fear and guilt to get parents to vaccinate anymore. The facts are definitely not on their side and they know it. They will do anything to get you to do the shots – make you feel like a bad Mom or whatever. My suggestion is to dump your Pediatrician (the most useless specialty in Medicine, my Dad was fond of saying) and get yourself an open minded family doc who respects your concerns.

    May 25th, 2010 6:50 pm Reply
    • Susan

      Unfortunately, fear and guilt are not the only weapons that pediatricians use.
      My daughter was born 9 weeks premature, with pneumonia (caused by an E-coli infection in her lungs – the E-coli infection was caused by an idiot doctor who insisted on doing a speculum exam, against my will, after they knew my water had broken…two weeks before my daughter was born…but that’s a much longer story).

      The NICU doctors and nurses did not expect my daughter to survive, but she is a stubborn little fighter, and she went home about 7 weeks after she was born. I refused all shots while she was in the NICU, much to the dismay of the doctors and nurses. I did not have a pediatrician lined up prior to her birth; I had been hospitalized for 7 weeks before she was born. I was given a list of recommended pediatricians by a case worker in the NICU, so I chose the one closest to where I lived, who was covered by my insurance.

      My daughter went home on a Friday night, and I took her to the pediatrician first thing Monday morning, as I was advised. My mom went with me (my husband had to work), and I am so glad she was there. The doctor took one look at my daughters medical information and lit into me. I was a horrible person for not having her vaccinated, and for not giving her formula…my breast milk wasn’t giving her enough calories, according to the doctor. I pointed out that she had gained weight since she had been discharged, so she seemed to be doing fine on the breast milk. The doctor’s reply was that her scale wasn’t calibrated the same as the NICU’s scales, so I couldn’t trust that it was an actual increase….okay, that’s her problem, not mine.

      She actually yelled at me for about 20 or 30 minutes. I was in so much shock, I couldn’t even speak…I was glad my mom was there to witness the episode…I had no idea what to do when I left. Since I was still in such shock, I made another appointment for the next week on my way out. The staff in that clinic was just as rude as the doctor, and I was in tears by the time we got home. As soon as we arrived at home, my mom told me to call the office back, cancel the appointment and never go back. And I did. I told them why I wasn’t coming back; I had been treated incredibly rudely and I wasn’t interested in going back for more.

      The next morning two CPS case workers showed up at my door, following up on a report that I was neglecting my child. The only possible person who could have made that report was the doctor…she was the only person outside of family who had seen me and my daughter since I had taken her home 4 days earlier. I was in the process of finding another pediatrician well before CPS arrived, but they made it clear that I HAD to take my daughter to another doctor, or else.

      I found another doctor, explained everything that had happened, and hoped for a better experience. The second doctor was nice, but she still strongly pushed vaccinations. I eventually gave in, because I was still on CPS’ radar for “child neglect”. I foolishly allowed them to give my daughter her first full set of shots when she was about 4 months old.

      During this time, I was also required to take her to regular check ups with a pulmonologist. The “nutritionist” in his office hated me…because I wasn’t giving my daughter the formula that she “needed”, and because she wasn’t up-to-date on shots. My daughter got her shots the day after a monthly visit with the pulmonologist. A month later when I took her back, her head had not grown at all…the only difference between that visit and the one prior (when the nutritionist told me to “keep doing what I was doing”, believing that I had started giving my daughter the formula because she was growing so well) was the fact that she had received her shots. Nothing else had changed. The nutritionist hit the ceiling when she discovered that I hadn’t been giving her the formula after all, and blamed the lack of growth on the milk I was feeding her. She claimed there was no possible way the shots would have stopped her growth. And then she reported me to CPS…the second report in as many months. She did give me a heads up that they were going to (very generous of them), so I beat them to the punch and called my original CPS case worker to let her know she should expect another report that afternoon. She insisted that I had to have my daughter admitted to the hospital that night…the “or else” was implied.

      After that, the second pediatrician’s practice partner took over my daughter’s care (without my consent) and told me in no uncertain terms that I had to do absolutely everything he said, otherwise CPS would take my daughter away. I had to show up to every appointment he set, and I had to continue giving my daughter shots. I also had to enroll her in a head-start program, whether I wanted to or not (I did not want).

      You cannot imagine the hellish nightmare my husband and I went through during this time. I wish I were making all of this up, but I’m not. The way we escaped all of this was by moving across the city, to be closer to my husband’s job…that was the official reason we gave the doctor’s office when we told them we were moving. We didn’t tell them where we were going, we just asked for her medical records (they hated that; they didn’t want to let me have them) so that we could “give them to her new doctor”. They said they typically just forward the records to the new doctor, so there was no reason for me to have them. There was no new doctor, but we weren’t about to tell them that. About six months later we moved to a new state, thousands of miles away.

      Less than a year later, our second preemie was born, but he was 12 weeks early. We had found a good pediatrician that we trusted before our son was born, but we still have never taken our daughter back to another well check up since she was six months old. We stopped taking our son to well check ups when he was about a year and a half old…the doctor’s staff wouldn’t stop pushing vaccines. We only take our kids to the doctor when they are truly sick, and that is pretty rare these days. My son used to have lung infections (due to being 12 weeks early) about every 3 to 6 months for the first 2 years of his life, but he seems to have outgrown his issues…it has been more than a year since I’ve had to take him to the doctor because of a lung infection, or for any other reason. My daughter hasn’t been to the doctor in about 3 years. My son will be 4 next month and my daughter will be 6 in November. They are both reasonably healthy kids (I wish I hadn’t caved on the vaccines when they were babies…I was just too afraid to lose them to the state). We are in the process of switching to a Nourishing Traditions lifestyle, so I’m sure their health will continue to improve. They LOVE Green Pasture Chocolate Cream FCLO, and Kerry Gold butter…they will eat those two things all day long if I let them. :)

      I’m sorry about the length of this comment. I tried to shorten the story as much as possible. I hope nobody else goes through the sort of nightmare we lived through, but I suspect it probably happens more often than anyone knows. I had a hard time talking about it for years. It is humiliating to admit that you have been reported to CPS – twice – for “neglecting” your child, when you’re only trying to do what’s best her. I didn’t have a lot of support outside my family during that time, so I would like to offer support to anyone else going through something similar.

      August 3rd, 2011 6:56 am Reply
      • LAUREN

        Wow. Reading your story…my heart breaks for you. The time after you have a baby is suppose to be full of special memories and JOY–and yet you had fear and guilt. I can’t think of many things more awful than that. What you were robbed of. I’m so sorry. I am a RN- and what you are saying does not sound far from many other stories I have seen and heard. You would never believe that a medical professional could act like that until you experience it yourself. It still boggles my mind though the CPS actually gets involved in the very personal, philosophy-based decisions of parenting. Why don’t CPS workers show up on the door-steps of those parents who REFUSE to breastfed (althought the medical literature is full of good—and NO bad effects), smoke around there children, feed them McDonalds everyday and let them watch 5 hours of TV a day??? Where are the CPS workers for those “negligent” parents?

        My pediatrician told me that “we weren’t a good fit” for each other and dismissed me from the practice because I hadn’t “kept up with well-visits” like I should to KEEP my child healthy…even though I told her from the beginning I wanted her expertise when some thing was truly wrong with my child…not when they were well.

        Thanks for being bold enough to share your story. I think that what happened should not be wasted, but rather redeemed through your attempts to help other parents!!

        Please share your story on Dr. Tenpenny’s site about “Pediatrician Bullies”. It needs to be heard. Any other readers who have been “bullied” by their pediatrician should also share. We need to speak up!!

        January 14th, 2012 3:43 am Reply
      • Helen T.

        What a WONDERFUL mother you are to not cave into the system. What wretched medical personel……haven’t they a CLUE to the harm vaccines can do?

        I have a new grand-nephew and my niece is doing the vaccines. No way to present any alternative view: my sister (her mother) and family get VERY upset with me. It always concludes with: how you YOU know more than a doctor?

        February 5th, 2012 5:09 am Reply
        • megan

          And the Bible, for those who believe it says, “Their much learning has made them mad.” Even if you follow or believe otherwise then the Bible, don’t you find this interesting? Maybe it’s even in other religions books as even the flood is in others. I believe that med science is just another way for the devil to put the focus of the people on anything but God the healer. Been studying healing in my religion for at lest a year now and no where does it say cutting out parts, giving drugs, or putting in computer parts is healing. A whole body the way it was made and working right, is healed. this comes by natural foods herbs and natural meds (like arnica) and the hand of God.

          April 3rd, 2012 11:00 am Reply
          • Joyce

            And you think that religion is the only reason why people decline vaccinating their kids? I’m not religious at all, and I do not want to vaccinate my children either.

            July 2nd, 2012 4:22 am
      • Beth

        Dear Susan.
        I would like to apologize on behalf my colleagues and profession who I like to believe are well meaning at heart. I know that an apology cannot reverse anything, nor stop the same abuse happening to other people.
        I am sad to say that my husband and I have experienced similar, but thankfully to a lesser extent.
        Kind regards,
        Beth (a well educated but knowingly ignorant product of medical school)

        November 13th, 2012 12:36 pm Reply
  • Daryl

    I think it's funny that doctors are recommending parents and siblings to get vaccinated for Pertussis…the vaccine doesn't protect against transmission.…i?artid=529164

    So the majority of the people in the study were no more likely to be protected from infection than they were before the vaccine, and some of them were less likely to be protected – the vaccine made them more susceptible to infection. They were somewhat protected from severe disease because the vaccine contains a toxoid, but breastmilk contains antibodies to the toxins, so it would function in the same way. This proves that the vaccine doesn't reduce carriage of the bacteria, so no one should feel bullied into accepting it for themselves or their older children as a means of protecting infants, because it won't do that. Since the vaccine can't stop you from being infected, it also can't stop you from spreading the bacteria to infants or the unvaccinated or the immunocompromised or whoever.

    I wonder how much money pharmaceutical companies are making off of this new recommendation???

    May 25th, 2010 8:56 pm Reply
    • Jennifer

      Holy COW. The link you just reference has BEEN REMOVED!!! What are they doing??? Trying to cover it up so the public doesn’t know!?!?

      July 15th, 2012 12:23 am Reply
  • Jack Plating

    Hey Sarah- great post! Mt wife and I have been researching this topic at great length as we are about to have our first child, I came across a new book that is tremendous that I'd like to recommend to anyone interest in this topic by Dr. Mayer Eisenstein called "Make an Informed Vacine Decision, A Parent's Guide to Childhood Shots." He actually does have a study of vaccinated vs unvaccinated children through their practice over the past 35 years…the results are staggering! Take a look at his vaccine page and there is also a short video posted there of a talk he did for some parents- it's very much worth the 30 mins:

    When comparing the vaccinated vs unvaccinated kids hey have virtually no asthma, allergies, ADHD, ADD or Autism in their more then 35,000 un-vaccinated children.

    The choice is clear to us, why would we even consider such a thing! Thanks for sharing the health!

    jack plating

    May 25th, 2010 6:19 pm Reply
  • My5wmd

    I loved the article. I tell friends who ask me (which they do because of my attitudes towards natural eating, etc.) that they have to make the choice, and I guide them to informative articles and books. This post will be among those I have them look at in the future. The only argument I wish you would be careful of is the, "I don't know anybody who…" argument. You state in this post, "I have NEVER met a fully vaccinated child that is healthier and more robust than a well nourished, unvaccinated child. Period." I wish you could meet some of the people I know. None of my children are fully vaccinated, but all of them are what I would call "mostly vaccinated." I know many families whose children are unvaccinated and who are trying to feed them in the same healthy, traditional way I am. My kids are some of the most robust and healthy kids in town. We are rarely ill. We have only had 1 child in the ER, for a bladder infection I was unaware of (I thought she might have an appendix issue.) My vaccinated kids are indeed healthier than some of their unvaccianted couterparts, and I feel the choices I made about which vaccinations to give and when to give them were sound. I think my kids are healthy because of their diet and because their lifestyle.
    Again, I will be happy to direct friends towards this interesting post when they ask about vaccinations, because aside from the "All the people I know…" type of reasoning, it presents some good arguments and some great information. Thanks.

    May 25th, 2010 11:26 pm Reply
  • Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist

    I understand your point about the wording of that argument. I am sure that some vaccinated kids are quite healthy if the parents take great care to nourish them properly. However, if you compare a nonvax child who eats well to a vax child who eats well, there is no comparison. The unvax child is more robust every time (notice my argument includes the words "well nourished"). Perhaps there are some exceptions, I just haven't come across any myself.

    May 25th, 2010 11:35 pm Reply
    • Mary Baffes

      You have not met my boys.

      May 2nd, 2011 9:22 pm Reply
    • Nicolle Mill

      where is your research to back these theories, what a load of crap you write. “the unvax child is more robust every time” again where is your research, or is this just your observations which are clearly one sided.

      May 2nd, 2012 8:42 am Reply
      • Elena

        Children were not vaccinated for thousand years. Under good sanitary conditions they were thriving,they were healthy and robust. Where are the times when our forefathers swam accross the Danube with their horses, crossed the Alps in winter time, did fight the Mongolians the Turks, and they did it, believe or not without vaccines, and their nose were not running either! Heck this medicated, vaccinated generations get sick if the Northern wind blows into their face once. And who cares about studies written for monetary compensation commissioned by sellers /pharmaceutical companies/ when life is living evidence. I have been surrounded by old /80+90+/ who only saw a doctor when he drove the carriage or rode his bike on the street, they were active, living a full life almost until their dying days, some of them were kicked by a horse, or fell of the attick , or were just very old, not waking up one morning, they did not live their healthy lives in the “foyer of death” shivering from bacteria, germs and viruses waiting for them in the barn.

        November 28th, 2012 11:37 pm Reply
        • History Buff

          “Where are the times when our forefathers swam accross the Danube with their horses, crossed the Alps in winter time, did fight the Mongolians the Turks, and they did it, believe or not without vaccines, and their nose were not running either!”

          … I’m sorry, what history books are you reading that from? MANY of our forefathers (and their children) suffered from a number of these diseases that we now vaccinate against, plus lost children (and wives) to these diseases too. Look at Lincoln! Only one of his 5 children survived into adulthood. Infant mortality rates were exceptionally high historically and life expectancy for adults was generally much shorter. Plus, it’s easy to glorify history and say they did all these things and never had a runny nose. Do you include the fact that you had a cold or the like when you tell stories of your achievements? Generally that part doesn’t get retold unless, in the case of FDR for example (who was crippled by contracting Polio as a child, and was a confined to a wheelchair for the rest of his life), it was such a marked impact on their life (or death) that it couldn’t be overlooked.

          That being said, I do agree that the “Purell Moms” are not helping their children by not allowing them to have contact with any germs whatsoever and therefore not building their immune systems, but let’s rein in the “back in the times of our forefathers, everyone was healthy and robust and lived to be 100 AND did amazing things too!” because factually, that’s just incorrect.

          June 11th, 2013 1:25 pm Reply
    • HealthyMommy

      You have not met my child or my friends’ children. My friends’ unvaccinated children are far more unhealthy than my vaccinated baby. All of the children being equally well-fed (except one baby who is unvaccinated is on an all-organic, mostly vegan diet and I sometimes feed my daughter cake and certainly not only organic food – yet she is so much healthier, stronger, happier, smarter, etc.)

      May 24th, 2012 9:02 am Reply
      • Lisa

        The unhealthy nonvax child is vegan? I think that’s her main problem. I think it’s OK for an informed adult to follow a vegan diet if they want to – it’s their choice. But, since I base most of my nutrition choices on WAPF, it makes me uncomfortable to think of a baby or young child being put on a vegan diet since I think they need the nutrient-dense animal products for healthy development.

        January 17th, 2013 1:26 am Reply
      • Jacquline

        Why do people make this argument that an unvaxed kid is better than the vaxed ones? I am 16 years old and recieved all my vaccinations and I do Cross Country, Quiz Bowl, Track, and National Honor Society, so still how does getting vaccinated make me any less of a person than some one who isn’t vaccinated? The only thing that has every happend to me that has ever held me back, was severe scoliosis , of which I got a back brace and persevered through it to become the athletic, honor student that I am, and I will laugh at anyone who says that my scoliosis came from vaccines because some of the first known cases of scoliosis appear thousands of years before anyone had ever heard of germs.

        February 11th, 2013 4:48 pm Reply
        • Anna

          If you were at all educated on Vaccines , you would come to the realization (all by yourself) that your scoliosis was a direct cause of the many poisons that entered your body as a child. Poisons that the body is not familiar with, and does not understand what to do with such toxins, hence your scoliosis.

          July 26th, 2013 7:03 pm Reply
          • Beckie

            If you were at all educated on anything you would know that scoliosis is a misaligned curvature of the spine and has nothing to do with “poisons” that entered your body but more to do with how your spine formed.

            July 27th, 2013 9:25 am
    • Stephanie

      I have only recently in the last year switched my family over to a traditional way of eating. I still have a lot to learn, but I am learning more everyday. Here is the thing. My kids were all vaccinated. They are 11, 9 and 8. All are very healthy. We have had no major problems. Before getting off the SAD, 1 or more of my kids would catch the usual “bugs” going around, but seemed to get over them faster than most kids. AFTER switching to a healthier diet, they rarely get sick (only 1 time in the last 9 months since switching diets and only lasted about 12 hours). If they do catch something their immune system fights it off before it becomes an issue.
      If I have another child, I will probably not vaccinate and they will start off immediately eating right and maybe then I will see a huge difference, but over all, my kids are among the healthiest kids I know, and we move A LOT being in the military.

      November 21st, 2012 1:54 pm Reply
  • Lisa Wallen Logsdon

    At this link is a most revealing 2 minute video of what a vaccine can do to a healthy young adult.

    To me, it would be like playing Russian Roulette to take a chance on any vaccine!

    May 26th, 2010 2:25 am Reply
  • debbie

    I am sorry, I very much disagree with you about your use of the so-called "pandemic". The H1N1 in one year killed over 10,000 healthy people. The majority of them being pregnant women, and healthy young adults and children. The average flu year kills 1,250 people, according to the stats listed by the CDC. They are mostly the very young and the very old.
    This novel flu virus, no one has immunity to it. The oddity of this flu, was that no one knew who it was going to put in the hospital and who it wasn't. There were some cases of it hitting people with asthma, down's sydrome, and pregnancy very hard. In fact, the rate of mortality in pregnant woman was the same as 1918, spanish flu. It is still out there, people are still dying from it.
    While you have the choice to not vaccinate, you are also benefitting from those that do. It is called herd immunity.
    It is not only the flu, but measles, mumps and whooping cough are coming back. Last year there where serious outbreaks of measles and mumps. For the first time there was a mutation found in measles. They found it was infecting adults that have already had it, or had been vaccinated.
    I will continue to get my son vaccinated. I feel it is a good way to protect him from diseases which are coming back.

    May 26th, 2010 3:14 pm Reply
    • Cindy

      It would be interesting to know how many of these people who have died as a result of H1N1 flu were never vaccinated. Any vaccination, in my opinion, weakens the immune system and I really believe causes new strains of diseases to mutate, which in turn causes pharma companies to create new vaccines to further weaken natural immunity.
      Just my opinion, that’s all.

      January 29th, 2011 2:07 am Reply
      • Allyson

        Then you clearly have absolutely no idea how vaccines work. Please do not post your opinion on scientific matters in public where people may read and consider it as fact.

        April 22nd, 2011 12:02 am Reply
        • Sean Collum

          Do these same non vaccination people oppose antibiotics, penicillin etc and every other advance in medicine ?
          I am shocked by the ignorance displayed by some of the comments supporting nonvac.

          April 22nd, 2011 2:33 am Reply
          • Angie

            I’m against vaccinations for babies, though I’ve received several myself (including smallpox and 7 doses of anthrax) – as an adult and lived through each. I didn’t have a choice in receiving them, and didn’t care too much anyway – but in no way do I believe babies should receive vaccines. Ever.

            BUT, I do believe in a good round of antibiotics when necessary and am not much of an advocate of homeopathy, even though my family is full of staunch believers. (Although those Hyland’s Teething Tablets are pretty remarkable, that’s about where I draw the line.) I’m all for medical advances, too, like the end of RIC in the U.S. and quadruple bypasses and neurosurgery and all the other good things advanced medical knowledge brings us.

            So no, non-vax people don’t all oppose antibiotics and advances in medicine.

            May 6th, 2011 5:05 am
          • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

            Sean, I do not oppose medical advances and I am totally non-vax. I had a round of antibiotics a couple of years ago for a knee infection. Antibiotics used in the right situations is a fantastic tool. Non-vax people aren’t a bunch of wackos who think advanced medicine is all bad. Generalizations in this area are plain ridiculous.

            May 6th, 2011 7:58 am
          • watchmom3

            Sean, do you know how ridiculous you sound? Do some more research. You may be absolutely brilliant, but “Condemnation without investigation is the HEIGHTH of ignorance.” -Albert Einstein I have been investigating this subject for YEARS. How about if I respect your opinion and NOT call you ignorant and you can respect mine and NOT call me ignorant.

            February 5th, 2012 5:04 pm
    • Barbara

      There are some strange politics regarding the H1N1 business. Isn’t it interesting that our vaccine manufacturers were able to patent a vaccine for an new illness… two years before any one came down with it. The vaccine manufacturer in Europe that produced the vaccine only a number of months previously had produced a vaccine that would have killed people had it been used. It was only because of a lab tech who injected a few animals that died, that the “error” was found. There was no investigation or consequences for that company. The H1N1 was marketed heavily for pregnant women many of whom miscarried within a couple days of getting the vaccine. And the Spanish flu of 1918 could have been spread by the vaccine that was used at that time.

      There also was a study done comparing the risk of childhood illnesses between vaccinated and unvaccinated. It used mathematics. It compared a population gets lifetime immunity from an illness to a population getting temporary immunity from vaccines. The vaccines because they only gave temporary immunity put the population more at risk.

      Measles, mumps, and whooping cough are not fatal illnesses.

      There are other factors about vaccines that the manufacturers have purposely keep secret. It’s called “Protected Trade Secrets”. The pharmaceutical companies are allowed to have ingredients in all pharmaceuticals that are not disclosed to the public and do not appear on the package insert. If you read the definition of “Generally Recognized as Safe” as it applies to the pharmaceuticals, you will read that they can “self-affirm” ingredients. What this means is if they want to use an ingredient, all they need is a good reason why they think it should be GRAS, pay a company to a study, then they use that ingredient as much as they want. Nothing ever gets submitted to the government. Nothing appears on the package insert. So you and your doctor have no idea what else might be in that needle that they are injecting into your child. But if you read patents on line for vaccine adjuvants and culture mediums, you will find that every food known to man is used in the production of vaccines.

      It is only the final culture medium that is listed on the package insert. Up until that point, food waste is used. And every food oil known to man can be mixed together and added to the vaccine adjuvant. So that baby who got the vitamin K shot or vaccinated at birth, can develop a serious food allergy without ever having been knowing exposed to a particular food because a trace amount of food protein remained in the vaccine. When protein is injected along with an adjuvant, the result is a food allergy. That is how it has been produced in lab animals. Wild animals do not have food allergies unless they have been vaccinated.

      Parents are buying peanut sniffing service dogs for their children because these children can die just from smelling peanut butter cookies baking. They can’t safely go to the mall or the park or a friend’s house. And it is not just peanut allergies. Fish allergies, shellfish allergies, and other foods have become big problems. In Australia, it just made the news “An Australian study involving 5,000 infants has found one in 10 has a food allergy, with the highest rates found among children in Melbourne.”

      Food allergies were rare when I was a child. The incidence has climbed with the increased number of childhood vaccinations. The leading “theory” about the cause of the food allergy epidemic suggests that it is because we are so clean. The reasoning being that third world countries have no problems with food allergies. They also have a very low vaccination rate.

      April 24th, 2011 9:47 am Reply
      • Dr. R

        I don’t wish to get into a disagreement on a blog, but I do want to clarify one statement that you made: “Measles, mumps, and whooping cough are not fatal illnesses.”

        Measles is associated with a 0.3% mortality rate in the general population. This may not seem high, but when the infected individual is malnourished or unhealthy to begin with, that death rate jumps to 28%. And in the case of AIDS, the mortality rate of measles in 30%.

        Mumps causes miscarriage in 27% of pregnant women infected.

        Pertussis (whooping cough) is associated with a 0.1% mortality rate which has increased substantially over the past decade.

        I am a family physician (thanks for the shout out above!) and I generally leave my patients and their families to make their own decisions about vaccinating. However, as stated many times above, it is about having all of the information. Think what you may about the safety of vaccines for your child, but a large incentive for creating vaccines in the first place is to protect those individuals that are most at risk of complications from an illness (premature, ill, pregnant, HIV-infected). It is not just about protected your healthy baby who would likely survive the original illness, but also about preventing the spread to those most at risk and benefiting society as a whole.

        I would also just like to point out, Sarah, that you stated above: “Generalizations in this area are plain ridiculous.” And yet you made a very broad generalization when you stated that when compared head-to-head, unvaccinated children are more robust than vaccinated children. That is quite the generalization.

        May 19th, 2011 10:18 am Reply
        • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

          I would suggest you go to Dr. Eisenstein MD’s site which is in the post which contains information about thousands of children who are not vaccinated and have virtually none of the auto immune diseases that vaccinated children suffer from. This is not a broad generalization at all.

          May 19th, 2011 11:28 am Reply
          • cj

            Look, you are really gambling if you don’t vaccinate…I lived in a country where people could choose whether or not to vaccinate, there were two horrible cases of measles — one in a child from an educated family, visiting a local island; another, in a welfare inner-city family….the measles infected the bloodstream and the first child had multiple amputations, arms and legs, in order to survive; the second endured tip of nose amputation (or was going to) and he died. Measles is terrible and vaccinations were invented to save people from the effects of that and other diseases (eg polio)…there are arguments both ways but really you want to be well-informed about what could happen

            February 7th, 2012 12:59 pm
        • Sarah

          Why should my child have to pay for the bad health choices other people make? Im not going to give my child vaccines (with all their risks) to protect someone else whose disease was entirely preventable through diet,safe sex practices etc etc

          June 29th, 2012 5:20 pm Reply
          • Aaron

            Just how do you think mumps, measles and whooping cough are transmitted? You think DIET and SAFE SEX can help prevent those? Newsflash – it is the others who have to pay for YOUR decision on compromising herd immunity.

            You need to learn first what those diseases are. THEN educate yourself on the vaccine controversy (and the reasons Wakefield, who started this whole crazy thing, has is name struck off the medical register due to professional misconduct).

            June 29th, 2012 6:25 pm
        • Jennifer

          ” Think what you may about the safety of vaccines for your child, but a large incentive for creating vaccines in the first place is to protect those individuals that are most at risk of complications from an illness (premature, ill, pregnant, HIV-infected). It is not just about protected your healthy baby who would likely survive the original illness, but also about preventing the spread to those most at risk and benefiting society as a whole.”

          Check this out per the CDC
          “The effects of whole-cell pertussis vaccine wane after 5 to 10 years, and infection in a vaccinated person causes nonspecific symptoms (3-7). Vaccinated adolescents and adults may serve as reservoirs for silent infection and become potential transmitters to unprotected infants (3-11). The whole-cell vaccine for pertussis is protective only against clinical disease, not against infection (15-17). Therefore, even young, recently vaccinated children may serve as reservoirs and potential transmitters of infection.

          Those that are vaccinated for pertussis are more likely to put infants and the immune deficient at risk than the non-vaccinated. If a person contracts pertussis as a child they develop lifelong immunity, and they then pass that on to their baby via breastfeeding. Breastfeeding then protects the baby till it’s immune system (and lungs) are developed enough to handle the disease. It’s vaccines that have altered that path to natural immunity, and have thus put others at risk…As you can see from the CDC information above, vaccinated individuals can be a “reservoirs of infection”.

          October 17th, 2012 2:53 pm Reply
          • mark

            but Jennifer, as you have quoted this source where is the information on rates of infection in un-vaccinated people. also your comment about “reservoirs of infection” is intended t be about them having no symptoms of the disease with the bacterium is only reproducing on them (not releasing it’s own toxins and antigens which are what cause disease), this shows that the vaccine worked ,as if it didn’t these people would no longer be “reservoirs of infection” as you put it but full blown sufferers with a much higher chance of complications. as for all the facts you point out, these show that the vaccine successfully removed symptoms.

            December 27th, 2013 4:05 pm
        • Nelli Farkas

          Oh no.. these good old childhood illnesses are far from being fatal. Saying that is just a scare tactic. No, no and no. My generation was brought up in an era when only very few shots were given, everybody, literelly everybody had mumps, chicken pox, rubella and measles one after another usually at kindergarden age , between 3-6. By the time we started elementary school these issues were off the agenda. No one had serious complications, no one died. and … the most important! NO CHILD developed any degenerative ailments between age 3-14, there was no single kid during 8 years at elementary hospitalized for other reason that breaking a bone , or other injury mostly related to age appropriate “miscivious ” behavior. Look around now… children with allergies / we didn’t even no “allergies” existed/, chronic bronchytis, asthma, neurological problems, childhood cancer etc… you know what, in this trade off rather the good old, well known, well tried childhood accute deseases, than these crippling ailments life long…

          December 11th, 2012 7:19 pm Reply
      • Jacquline

        Whooping Cough not a fatal illness is B.S. a family member of mine died from it. The 1918 wave of flu could not have been spread by a vaccine since they did not have a vaccine for it back then. Plus a bunch of people back than did not really know how it was spread because they would only cover there mouths and not there noses!

        February 11th, 2013 4:56 pm Reply
        • mark

          also it couldn’t have been spread by a vaccine, its not how they work. vaccines work by injecting foreign antigens into the body to allow your body to create memory cells to counter a future infection. it doesn’t actually inject the pathogen (apart from very old versions which used dead pathogens).

          December 27th, 2013 4:09 pm Reply
    • Darc

      The thing to remember with the H1N1 reporting and “pandemic” qualifier, is that they had to change the meaning of pandemic. The H1N1, when properly diagnosed, accounted for so very few deaths, they (WHO) changed the meaning of pandemic which used to refer to diseases and illness that produced a certain number of deaths, to include merely being diagnosed due to symptoms. In addition, the reporting guidelines were loosened. If a person came into the ER and had certain symptoms, then the dr’s were to report, to the CDC, the episode as H1N1, without further testing. The medical community was instructed, by the CDC, to forgo lab testing and report and treat as if H1N1 based on symptoms alone. However, H1N1 can be detected accurately with lab testing.

      The numbers for the “deaths” attributed to H1N1 are skewed.

      (I can not find my other two links right now, I am sorry. I was hoping to have the info for you to research yourself.)

      April 25th, 2011 12:01 pm Reply
      • Jennifer

        There have been recent studies that have show that in the 2008-2009 H1N1 epidemic, that those who were injected with regular flu vaccine were much more likely to come down with H1N1, and a more severe case at that…I’ll have to dig for those studies…So could the H1N1 scare be responsible for the epidemic? I did not get my kids vaccinated for the flu NOR H1N1, and they never came down with the flu at all that year, My friend gave into the scare and had her kids vaccinated with the regular flu vaccine, Her two kids promply came down with the flu, her daughter was extremely sick, she took her daughter to the ER and the daughter was diagnosed as having H1N1…

        October 17th, 2012 3:01 pm Reply
    • LAUREN


      “The MAJORITY of them being pregnant women and healthy young adults and children”.

      The ONLY reason you think that is because of the media blowing up those minority stories. Please look long and hard, I don’t think you will find your statement to be true.

      January 14th, 2012 4:02 am Reply
    • Elena

      I am coming from a tiny country, with very high level of education. We say that due to the size of the country everybody knows everybody. Though Iam not a medical doctor / I have other doctorate/ quite a few of my elementary, or secondary scoolmates became doctors, and we had friends from the University of Medicine in our town. I learnt very early. that even the most honest doctors don’t give their own opinion to their regular patients, or to patients they are not frinds with. The obstetrician never gave contraceptive pills to his wife, girlfriend, daughter, and other friends, rather recommended other non chemical solutions, the dermatologist confessed that they usually dont know what causes skin conditions, just try to give meds hoping thy would be lucky for first, or second try. The pediatrician did not vaccinate his/ her own children, saying well….. vaccinated children might not get the desease they are vaccinated against, but they difinitely will get anything and everything else. My unvaccinated, already adult daughter’s pediatrican with 30 years of practice in the most affluent area of the city told that general health of children used to be much better before vaccination started for common childhood deseases. Another docto,r I was doing yoga with, has been specializing in vaccine injured children. My daughters classmates with medical doctor parents were barely or non vaccinated and all in robust health. So, I am happy I had the opportunity to first hand, honest opinion from people who I knew ,really wanted my benefit. Believing in any institution serving the establishment , regardless of time or place has been and will remain a risky business.

      November 29th, 2012 12:05 am Reply
  • Carrie at NaturalMomsTalkRadio

    Phenomenon #3 is precisely what I've observed now that my kids are a little older. All the kids I know get sick and stay sick for weeks at a time with coughs, chronic cold, etc. Not mine.

    May 26th, 2010 3:54 pm Reply
  • Jenny

    I don't necessarily disagree that many of the vaccinated kids I've encountered are less healthy compared to their unvaccinated friends, however, I would never make a decision to vaccinate or not based on anecdotal evidence such as this. The argument could easily be made that the reason those children who are unvaccinated are healthier is also because their parents are more education and informed on other issues of health and nutrition which the average vaccinating parent is not interested in. For example, most of the vaccinated children I know do not have parents nursing them beyond a year, giving them raw milk, cod liver oil, letting them play in the dirt etc. I don't think we can attribute the overall perceived better health of unvaccinated kids solely on the fact that they are unvaccinated. Just thought I would point this out. I have some other thoughts and while we are not vaccinating for some things (we travel and do not feel comfortable not vaccinating for other things) I think we must think very critically about this topic and the information as its presented.

    May 26th, 2010 6:31 pm Reply
    • Maureen

      “The argument could easily be made that the reason those children who are unvaccinated are healthier is also because their parents are more educated and informed on other issues of health and nutrition which the average vaccinating parent is not interested in.”

      Excellent point Jenny….well said. My vaccinated children are all adults now, and while I would certainly lean against vaccinations knowing what we know today, they were VERY healthy children growing up….. rarely sick and when they did fall ill, recovered quickly. Stick to the facts, they are scary enough without embellishment.

      April 22nd, 2011 4:49 am Reply
      • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

        Maureen you are CLUELESS. Your adult children got what, 3 vaccines? The kids now get upwards of 60 last I checked. WAKE UP! Your ignorance and closed mindedness is embarrassing you.

        April 22nd, 2011 8:18 am Reply
        • Kacie

          Sarah, why be so rude in your reply to Maureen? What is gained?

          I’m digging through your posts on vaccinations, trying to learn more, and the name-calling and disrespect I’m finding in comment threads from your blog readers (and yourself, it seems, too) is really off-putting.

          Why do that?

          August 28th, 2011 12:25 am Reply
          • Anna

            It is her blog…she can respond as she wishes. If you don’t like her responses, then don’t read her blog and don’t comment on her posts. Seriously, I am getting tired of reading people make comments about the way she responds sometimes. To me, it is refreshing.

            October 29th, 2011 2:46 am
        • Samantha

          While I agree with your point Sarah, I also agree with the person below that the point could have been made in a much nicer tone.

          When I had my first son I had no clue about vaccinations. I was a sheeple. When I got pregnant with my 2nd son we started researching things like circumcision and vaccinations. I had a gut feeling that I should absolutely NOT vaccinate my 2nd son. So I stopped vaccinating my first son and have never vaccinated my 2nd son. And I have not vaccinated my 3rd son or my daughter. I look at the research, I look at the fact that the highest rate of sids is 2 mo and 4 mo and that’s when babies are getting their vaccinations. And while we only intended to not delay vaccination long term the more my husband and I learn the more we know that we will never vaccinate again. My oldest is probably my healthiest. He so RARELY gets sick. My 2nd gets sick more often and all of my babies have suffered from chronic runny noses the first year or two. So while I’m anti-vaccination and I agree with the point that when we were children we received FAR fewer vaccinations, I do think that a broad generalization that vaccinated kids can’t be as healthy as unvaccinated kids makes me really turned off here as does your rude response to people who don’t completely agree with you 100%. I had hoped that I’d found another place to send people to read some great arguments against vaccinating but if there’s any risk that they’ll read the comments and be turned off by your rudeness I won’t send them this way.

          February 3rd, 2012 8:09 pm Reply
          • Helen T.

            Sarah’s just getting irritated, like me! As I said above in another posting – no matter how I point out that vaccines CAN be dangerous (I don’t even say ‘ARE’ dangerous), my family treats me like a kook. No evidence is good enough to convince them otherwise. They’ll say, “How would you know more than a doctor?”

            Can someone please tell me WHY very few doctors are questioning vaccine safety?
            This is what I feel puts up a red flag. Could it be that the ones that do have concerns
            about vaccines can’t express them for fear of being sidelined from their profession?

            If this is the case and critical thought is not allowed, how can you put your trust in the medical profession then???

            February 5th, 2012 5:30 am
          • Lucy

            “Can someone please tell me WHY very few doctors are questioning vaccine safety?”

            That’s the easiest question to answer in the whole world. Because doctors know that vaccines are safe. You’re not going to question that the sky is blue, that the grass is green or that an apple a day keeps the doctor away. Doctors, with years of training in biochemistry, organic chemistry, anatomy and physiology, who know how the immune system responds, who can draw and talk intelligently on what an antibody is and how the body creates different antibodies, don’t question the safety of vaccines because they are safe for 99% of people and because they are beautifully designed and one of the best and most important medical breakthroughs of the last one hundred years.

            September 15th, 2012 6:21 pm
    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

      Ok, so you won’t make a decision based on anecdotes that you CAN OBSERVE FOR YOURSELF AS TRUE, but you will believe propaganda that masquerades as science or legitimate studies put out and covertly supported by pharmaceutical companies? Smart, move! I’ve got a piece of real estate to sell you too.

      April 22nd, 2011 8:20 am Reply
      • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

        It amazes me how many folks are still drinking the Kool Aid put out by Big Pharma. How gullible and easily mislead can you be. You should be embarrassed by how totally snookered you are.

        April 22nd, 2011 8:22 am Reply
        • LL

          I just came across your blogs today through pinterest. I’ve been reading for hours and have felt encouraged to put some better eating practices in place for me and my 5 children. Unfortunately, your lack of humility and unwillingness to address anyone that disagrees with a genuine informative response gives you far less credibility…well, that and you seem to have very limited sources and a lot of opinion. Perhaps you are too concerned with being right vs. just being concerned and educating. Either way, like others have stated-it is your blog, and I have read my last.

          July 16th, 2012 4:40 pm Reply
      • mark

        isn’t it also media and propaganda that caused the autism scare for the MMR vaccine a couple of years ago, you know the one that due to people no taking it had a fair portion of a welsh town in hospital…

        December 27th, 2013 4:15 pm Reply
  • Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist

    Hi Debbie, "herd immunity" is completely and totally false. It is a favorite argument of the pro-vaccination lobby but it holds no water upon analysis. I blogged about this a few months back:

    May 30th, 2010 12:02 am Reply
  • Momofthesouth

    Great post!

    June 3rd, 2010 2:20 am Reply
  • Anonymous

    all great information. Problem with the H1Ni stats is they are skewed. The clumped deaths in the stats that were confirmed to definitely not be H1N1. My friend was reported to be the first in our county to die from H1N1 problem was they confirmed on two occasions that she did not have it and that she had pneumonia. Never trust what you are told. Go to the CDC website read what the vaccines are designed to prevent. See if the bacteria can be treated with antibiotics, is it a virus that is self limiting (last 5-7 days), does breast feeding protect against it??? For anyone that cares if you need well baby visits and are waiting on vaccines go to a good pediatric chiropractor to find one in your area. Oh yeah, fevers are the way your body fights disease if you keep giving children motrine or tylenol as soon as they get a fever they can't fight the disease—let the fever hang out for a while, it is not abnormal for children to run 104 fever (ask your parents)

    June 11th, 2010 3:55 am Reply
    • CJ

      I wish people would be more open to the fact that there are severe cases on both sides… The people having permanent damage from the vaccines, and the ones with permanent damage from the disease. There are substantial stories on both ends.

      I personally know a girl who slipped into a coma early in her pregnancy due to Swine Flu which she wasn’t vaccinated against, as it was still new. It was absolutely confirmed that is what she had. They had to do a c-section with her sitting upright (otherwise she stopped breathing) while still in a coma because her daughter was dying inside of her. It’s just horrible.

      Or the mother (I think she was on this blog somewhere) that said they got the 5mo shots for her infant, the next morning found her/him laying in a pool of bloody foam. The autopsy called it a SIDS death?

      Or the people I know who contracted Anthrax and Smallpox and survived because they were vaccinated.

      There are arguments on either side that are real stories that really happen, and there are a million factors that contribute to the outcome… so why call people ignorant? Was it ignorant of my buddies for getting a vaccine that saved their life? Or was it ignorant of the mother to give her baby the vaccine that may have killed him? How can you judge people when even with all the science and philosophy in the world, we still can not see into the future? Science is not exact, people still lie for money, holistic measures don’t protect against everything, people still make claims based on “logic” which isn’t always logical even if it makes sense, research about non-vac/pro-vac is still research believing someone else’s science on the subject matter. Unless you are basing strictly off of personal experience, then it’s even on both sides, because for every one horror story in favor of a side, there’s another contradicting it. How can you call someone ignorant on either end, when getting the vaccine, refraining from it all together or delaying it still can NOT guarantee a good outcome, and each come with a risk of a bad one?

      Side note: An observation I made while in the desert of people who got the smallpox vaccine… The people who were receiving their second round, due to having it too long ago (I believe it was when they were small, like in the 60’s or prior, not sure), even though they received TWICE the amount of skin scrapes with the vaccine this second round, their vaccine site actually healed faster than those of us getting it for the first time, only 6 (half the amount) scrapes. The majority of us were extremely healthy adults, and the majority of the ones who were getting it for a second time were much older, most of them drank alcohol regularly, and most of them were smokers. I’m not even trying to prove a point, I just remember being jealous that their site healed up days sooner than ours. We had to walk around with that nasty bubble of fluid on our arms, being careful not to bump, or touch it and then rub our eye… bleh! I just wonder if it had to do with a slight immunity they had to it, like their body was able to efficiently fight it due to their prior vaccination. If that’s the case, then it would mean the difference between some nasty scars or death. Again, this is ONLY an observation, and I do not discredit the events of things happening to children the days after getting a vaccine. (Though I question the relation of things happening to kids MONTHS after getting the vaccine – Autism can show up in later years, even in non-vaccinated kids, so to me, it’s inconclusive.)

      I would be weary of giving newborns vaccinations, but I’m not sure the idea of choosing never to vaccinate is a wise choice either.

      August 1st, 2012 4:32 pm Reply
  • Anonymous

    I bet your OB never told you that the flu shot is actually not supposed to be given to pregnant women yet in most offices it is highly recommended. The flu shot is one vaccine that still contains measurable amounts of thimerisol which passes the placental barrier and settles into nuerological tissue at the earliest stages of your babies brain developement. This insult is then perpetuated at birth by giving the Hep B vaccine. Did you know that pharmacuetical companies are protected from lawsuits due to vaccine injury. Did you also know that vaccines have never undergone double blind studies which is the standard before releasing any drug to market. Our tax dollars fund the Vaccine Injury fund and drug companies aren't held responsible for hot batches. Vaccine injury is severely under reported because doctors will not acknowledge the injury could be related and parents don't report because they have enough to handle just dealing with their child who was injured

    June 11th, 2010 4:09 am Reply
    • MNMommy

      Whoa, slow down – they typically do NOT give the thimerisol vaccine to OB patients. During the H1N1 “epidemic”, OB patients (pregnant women) were given thimerisol-free H1N1 vaccines. Please be careful of what you are informing people.

      June 5th, 2011 12:59 am Reply
      • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

        ????? Flu shots and H1N1 vaccines are not thimerosal free and are recommended for all pregnant women.

        June 5th, 2011 7:43 am Reply
        • HealthyMommy

          Not true. Flu shots were not recommended for me when I was pregnant a year ago.

          May 24th, 2012 9:21 am Reply
  • Eereena Rozeena

    Hi Sarah,
    I'd like to see some scholarly evidence in support of the points you just made. Do you have access to an epidemiological study conducted that showed vaccinated children are unhealthier than unvaccinated children? I've clicked on a few of the links you've shared in your article, and I'm finding a difficult time finding a peer-reviewed citation anywhere in support of those claims.

    A parent's decision to vaccinate a child should be based on trust between the doctor and parent, and published/peer-reviewed evidence. In case you're at a loss as to where to find such articles, I recommend the Lancet, the American Academy of Pediatrics, and British Medical Journal to name a few.

    June 11th, 2010 9:12 pm Reply
  • Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist

    Hi Eereena, if you look at one of the comments above, a book by Dr. Mayer Eisenstein called "Make an Informed Vacine Decision, A Parent's Guide to Childhood Shots" has a study in it comparing vaccinated to unvaccinated children. As clearly stated in my blog, I haven't seen such a study but one reader pointed this out in the comments section which was great. I don't cite studies such as you suggested as studies in these types of journals are controlled and manipulated by the pharmaceutical companies and are useless as points of reference. Anyone with 2 eyes who can see can easily observe the health of vaccinated versus unvaccinated children. I am assuming you do not have young children and as such, do not see what I see everyday around me. I don't need a study to state the obvious. I simply ask Mothers and Fathers to open their eyes and not rely on the advice of their physicians who most likely have their opinions recited to them directly from the AMA or APA.

    June 11th, 2010 9:18 pm Reply
  • Eereena Rozeena

    Sarah, you are correct, I do not have children. However, I am currently studying infectious disease control on a graduate level, and the institution I attend is by no means at the mercy of pharmaceutical companies, nor are the journal articles published there.

    In fact, journals such as AMA, BMJ, and the Lancet are peer-reviews, by which means they go through a process of evaluation involving qualified individuals (PhDs, MDs). Peer-reviewing exists to maintain standards, improve performance, and provide credibility.

    To be frank, I'm really not sure what other sources are trust-worthy. Are you?

    June 11th, 2010 11:20 pm Reply
  • Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist

    Hi Eereena, I think you are a bit naive if you are studying infectious disease at a graduate level and think that the drug companies don't have a hand in every single grant that is given at your institution. The drug companies own the curriculum in medical schools, for example. They want newly minted doctors to walk to the beat of their drum.

    If you had children I think you would be more open minded about the other side of the issue. Children seem to have this effect on most mothers especially when their friends are having babies with nothing but problems and the question arises again and again – could vaccination have caused the problems?

    As to whether or not I am trustworthy, that is up to you to decide. I have no desire to convince you of anything. This blog is for those who seek knowledge outside the mainstream, not for those stuck in convention and towing the party line.

    June 12th, 2010 12:33 am Reply
  • Anonymous

    Hi, Sarah. I have to disagree with you when you say that drug companies own the curriculum in medical schools. As a pediatrician who obviously went through medical school, I can say with certainty that is not true. Big pharma is definitely present in some practices, and medical students are exposed to it during their schooling, but it is not the overriding feature or guiding light of either.

    In addition, as a pediatrician and as a mother, I believe I have very broad exposure to a variety of different children/parenting styles and choices, etc. My own children have been fully vaccinated and are very healthy. Frankly, I would not have it any other way. Many of the diseases/conditions that we vaccinate against are not terribly common (in part because of of effective vaccination programs through the years), but I could not live with myself if *my* child were to be the one who developed meningitis secondary to a Hib infection. . . if *my* child developed debilitating consequences after contracting polio. But I digress.

    My children are healthy. Many of my patients who are fully vaccinated are very healthy children as well (ie do not experience recurrent cough/cold, do not have chronic diseases or chronic issues with allergies). Some obviously have these conditions. On the flip side, some of my patients who are NOT vaccinated have chronic conditions as well. Some have even developed the conditions that the vaccines would likely have prevented. But, like the group that's vaccinated, most are very healthy.

    A patient's mother asked me about some of the things that she's read on your site, which is how I came to find your blog. As I read several sections, it seems to me that many of your opinions are based on your experiences with your children. While I respect that, your children (and their friends) are a relatively small population.

    June 12th, 2010 3:56 am Reply
    • Cindy

      I couldn’t live with myself if any of my children became ill, disabled or died as a result of an artificial lowering of their natural immunity. My children are healthier than many of their friends, and even moreso because we homeschool … but I digress also.

      If any of my children became ill from a “vaccine preventable” disease, at least their immunity is strong enough to give it a good fight, and if perchance, it was fatal, at least I know that I gave my children the absolute best fighting chance they could have had!

      I have had parents say to me that they would never let their (vaccinated) children play with unvaxed kids, and as they never openly asked me whether or not mine were (they just assumed they were vaxed) I never volunteered information that would end friendships. And for two years, while their kids caught everything they were vaccinated against, my kids remained healthy, and I was considered “lucky” that mine didn’t “catch it”. BUT I also made a conscious decision to avoid meetings when I knew their kids were due for shots.

      January 29th, 2011 2:16 am Reply
  • Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist

    In response to the anonymous pediatrician .. with all due respect – Big Pharma OWNS the medical schools. Big Pharma gives the majority of money, grants etc to medical schools in exchange for dominating the curriculum and research. Medicine as practiced by conventional MDs is no longer independent. A doctor is not free to practice medicine in the manner my Father did because of fear of retribution from the AMA that his actions didn't follow "guidelines."

    Just think what would happen if you decided not to vaccinate children tomorrow. You know that you would be ostracized and probably censured or worse from the American Academy of Pediatrics. You are controlled by Big Pharma everyday you walk into your office and this manipulation started the very first day you started medical school.

    You say that you couldn't live with yourself if one child got Hib, but what about all the other children that are DOOMED to a lifetime of autoimmune, chronic disease from getting vaccinations that you recommend?

    It simply makes no sense to trade the very small risk of infectious disease for the huge risk of lifelong autoimmune disease by choosing to get vaccinated. An increasing number of parents are waking up to this fact which is why you are getting more and more resistance to shots in your office.

    June 12th, 2010 1:52 pm Reply
    • CMWmd

      How in one breath can you say that Dr’s know nothing about the drugs/vaccines they are giving, then in another claim that the pharm. companies own every single medical school? It can’t be both ways.

      April 9th, 2012 5:51 pm Reply
      • Jennifer

        With all “due” respect, CMWmd – – – That made ZERO sense. What the heck are you even talking about? The 2 things you mentioned are 2 separate things! DUH ((shaking head slowly back and forth… back and forth…))

        July 15th, 2012 12:32 am Reply
  • Anonymous

    I'm 38 years old and have never had a vaccine. None of my 5 siblings, my dad, his two sisters, and their children ever did either.

    I remember my mom saying numerous times after parent teacher conferences that teachers told her she had such good looking children. We were so healthy and vibrant, and probably the only unvaccinated children in the school district at that time (70's and 80's). In sports, 5 of us went to state 16 times!! And we had several more near misses. We were never sick.

    My grand father was drafted in WWII and was used as a guinea pig, as are all veterans (Gulf War disabilities from the anthrax vaccine as a recent example)so would not allow his children to be vaccinated. He died at 56 years old from cancer, which he swore was from the vaccines. A LOT of other vets in our area died at young ages from cancer, too.

    We know hundreds of non vaccinated children. No ADD, autism, sickness, etc. There is a difference, as you point out.

    Vaccines have caused so much suffering and death. How can the pediatrician live with her self with that???

    keep up the great work Sarah, children's lives depend on it.

    June 13th, 2010 4:11 am Reply
    • CJ

      With all due respect to your grandfather, and I’m sorry for your loss… the WWII vets were also exposed to much radiation, as they were doing nuclear testing at the time, mustard gas exposure, exposure to DDT, they were vaccinated against yellow fever, cholera, influenza, typhoid, tetanus… etc. which dropped the death rate among those diseases. But were contracting tuberculosis, hepatitis, rheumatic fever and such that they did not have a vaccine for yet, those caused a large amount of death or permanent disabilities. They were experimenting with a lot of new chemicals during that time, so it’s hard to say what they were exposed to exactly.

      Some vets of the Vietnam war were eating C4 (an explosive compound) to escape reality, they are now suffering from ailments such as cancer. Not to mention their exposure to Agent Orange that has been a proven carcinogen.

      The Gulf War vets were exposed to way more than just vaccines, and those with disabilities have not been conclusively linked to the anthrax vaccine. They were victims of nerve gas, depleted uranium, toxic fumes from oil fires, pesticides… etc. Vets in the Gulf War are still noted as being a distinctly different bunch due to the fact that they have been sick since they came home with no signs of recovery. They must have been exposed to much more than just vaccines, in which every other vet has been exposed to since then, such as myself.

      So I disagree that it is the main reason so many vets are getting sick at young ages.

      And diseases have caused so much suffering and death also… In children all over the world. It’s a toss up as to who has the better point. There are risks to both sides, but it would be irresponsible of me to let you point out the possible cancer risk of vaccines in your grandfather without playing devil’s advocate about the other possibilities as well. A decision should not be based on a one-sided debate.

      I know a non-vaccinated child who developed Autism around 2 years old. He has a tree-hugger mom who buys only organic and doesn’t use chemicals in her home, she’s a wonderful person to be around, very positive and involved. So there’s no blanket prevention.

      I don’t know if I even believe ADD is the epidemic that people make it out to be anyway, I believe it’s more of a failure to thrive in a cultural standard, as we are all built different. ADD symptoms in the days of my grandparents were considered normal, just those kids were better suited for other activities than the ones who liked to read books and sit quietly in class.

      I don’t mean to blast you with my reply, I just think the point needs to be made that anything that is said about non-vac can be countered with a pro-vac comment, so why not draw info from both sides to make a truly informed decision?

      August 1st, 2012 5:18 pm Reply
  • Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist

    That's an excellent point and thank you for posting that point. Nonvaccinated children are frequently star athletes as vaccines are known to interfere with gross motor coordination and balance. I can't remember where I read this (probably Dr. Sherri Tenpenny's website). Hence, unvaccinated children definitely have an advantage on the sporting pitch.

    June 13th, 2010 12:48 pm Reply
    • Betty

      I have to say your comment is hilarious. So you’re saying that most of the professional and collegiate athletes today owe their talent to being un-vaccinated? Definitely not to their God-given talent, genetics, diligence, and practice. Again, your replies to comments turns me away from ANYTHING you would have to say.

      December 12th, 2011 10:38 pm Reply
      • Buela

        yet here you are……… betty

        April 29th, 2012 9:26 pm Reply
        • Jennifer

          LOL! That was a good one, Buela 😉 – – – Oh. Sorry… ((ahem))

          July 15th, 2012 12:45 am Reply
    • Chad

      Sorry I’m late to the party. I just stumbled upon your blog and I’ve been thoughtfully perusing through the comments section for the better part of an hour. Sarah, I commend your strong stance in your convictions. But, my God, you’re an idiot!

      February 26th, 2014 3:29 pm Reply
    • Kristie

      This is one of the most ridiculous statements I have EVER heard.

      February 28th, 2014 9:50 pm Reply
  • Ktietje85

    My children aren't vaccinated. In their first year, they tend to get a lot of little colds but recover fairly quickly. Then they don't get sick (recently, EVERYONE in our house got a minor cold — except my 2.5 YO daughter). We also eat NT, practice extended breastfeeding (both kids are still breastfeeding) etc. which of course helps.

    But knowing everything I do about vaccines…NEVER EVER EVER.

    My kids even suffered, for awhile, from some eczema and allergies, but we cured it through GAPS and NT. They can eat almost anything now with no problems.

    When my daughter was about 18 months, we had some blood work done. Her ped, who specializes in kids with autism and allergies, said that her blood work came back looking like a child on the spectrum — low in B12, glutathione, etc. Dangerously low. This was despite eating plenty of grass-fed beef and other healthy foods and not taking any medication or vaccines. We spent months and months, eventually on our own, working with her diet and nutrition to help her. She is pretty much normal now, finally. And I know, in my heart of hearts, had I vaccinated her, that she would have had autism now….

    Thankfully, I'm one of the "lucky" ones. I did my research before it was too late and I saved my daughter.

    June 13th, 2010 5:33 pm Reply
    • Sean Collum

      Can you explain the science here in which you somehow prevented autism ? The rest of the world would love to know what causes autism. As you seem to know can you share with us ?

      April 22nd, 2011 2:40 am Reply
      • Jennifer

        Tensof thousands of parents of autistic children will tell you that vaccines have caused their child’s autism… I have several friends that have autistic (most of them on the severe side) children who will state flat out that vaccines were the cause. These friends are all educated..among them are doctors, veterinarians, scientists, business owners etc. Not onenofnthem buys into he media message that there is no link.

        December 29th, 2013 12:03 pm Reply
  • josiah

    What would you say to someone who is about to start a career in the health care community and as such will be required to be fully vaccinated? I'm about to start on my LVN and will soon need an update on my list of vaccinations. I received most of my vaccinations as a child and now suffer from chronic psoriasis, staph infections, and some sort of digestive disorder that stemmed from the array of antibiotic prescriptions i was given for the staph 2 yrs ago.

    July 18th, 2010 3:14 am Reply
    • Reality

      If you truly believe some of the twisted logic being spewed on this blog, I hope you never enter the health care community.

      Last thing we need are people like you talking directly to patients in the office.

      October 28th, 2013 11:38 am Reply
      • core

        Your choice of alias is ironical since “reality” is what you seem to be lacking.

        I had an arrogant know-it-all Doctor peddling his snake oil a few years back. I stopped him short and explained, slowly so he could keep up, how dangerous this toxic poison called vaccines really was. He called in his nurse too who also attempted, rather rudely, to chastise me. I asked them a number of vaccine related questions, not of which they could answer, and got them to both admit how little they knew.

        Since a lay member of the public,me, had left two supposedly well trained medical professionals red faces and confused, I asked them when leaving how it is they can peddle vaccines on unsuspecting patients when they themselves clearly knew nothing on the topic, I just got the shoulder shrug.

        I received a letter a short time later explaining that I had been argumentative and abusive and was no longer welcome at the practice – hahaha what a joke, in fact “joke” is exactly how I would sum up this whole debate. Medical staff have no to little training on the very toxins they are pushing on to their patients. I think some accountability is in order and those responsible for peddling this filth should be publicly flogged (OK may be a bit harsh) but then again it is the lives of our children and future generations we are talking about.

        I have no doubt in a 100 years people will look back with disgust and horror knowing that we willfully injected this garbage in to our children.

        “Anyone who claims peer-reviewed research is rigorous has some kind of delusional faith that humans aren’t human.”

        January 25th, 2014 6:22 pm Reply
  • AshleyJane

    I found this article to be helpful in illustrating the link between big pharma and published medical research and med school curriculum. It is written by a former editor of a popular journal that most will recognize.

    July 19th, 2010 2:47 am Reply
  • Alyssa

    I am also one of the lucky ones who never vaxxed and 2 ppl I know who spend a lot of time with me and my kids swear that I would have had an autistic child on my hands had I vaxxed my 2nd son. He displays some characteristics but isnt too bad, we know he would have had a bad reaction.
    Sarah, your responses to the naysayers were gold, scholarly evidence is worth naught in my opinion, as they can make conclusions slanted to whichever way they want, scientists seem to have become big pharmas puppets these days.
    I also guarantee that the paediatrician doesnt see as wide a variety of parents as she would like to think as usually ppl who lead an alternative lifestyle and dont vaccinate, would generally not go anywhere near a paed. I certainly havent seen a dr for a good 5 yrs and my kids have maybe seen a dr a couple of times in their whole lives!
    Thank you for this post, I will be recommending it to my friends x

    August 18th, 2010 1:42 am Reply
  • Jamie

    To Josiah – as a former manager, I recommend that you research your rights and be in contact with your doctor and the HR dept where you work. HR depts are not usually able to argue against a doctor's word, so if you can get it on file that vaccines would aggravate or complicate your existing conditions, you may be able to get out of some vaccinations. Make sure you know what your rights are – you almost always have more than your managers and HR people will admit to – but if they know that you know them, the game changes fast! Unfortunately, however, there are still currently professions in which people have no choice but to put their health on the line and by getting vaccinated – my husband is in the Air Force and an act of God wouldn't stop them from shooting him full of every vaccine that comes out. We continue to search for a way to counter that, focusing in the meantime on a real food diet and all around very healthy and clean living.

    September 13th, 2010 10:57 am Reply
  • elaine

    This is one of our hot buttons right now … our 22yo daughter is leaving in January for a 5 month mission trip to India, Cambodia and Thailand. The list of vaccines is staggering. We have already spent a couple of days poring over the CDC website of what the "at risk" areas are for the various diseases (all 3 countries are high risk for everything!). When my first 2 were little I vaccinated out of ignorance (and the fact that my mom is a public health nurse and I had no idea that you didn't vaccinate) – so she had the full round of everything until she was a teen.

    This is unbelievably hard because she will be so far away, in rural areas with little to no health care available if she should contract something. If it were here in the States and we were faced with this decision it wouldn't be an issue – I have access to medical care IF I needed it, I have access to herbs and drugs, if necessary. I would appreciate any input! Thanks~

    October 6th, 2010 1:04 am Reply
  • Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist

    Elaine, this is a very difficult decision for your daughter I am sure. It is obviously something she will have to decide for herself. All I can tell you is that if I were going, I wouldn't get any of the shots. I would take a plentiful supply of fermented cod liver oil and butter oil with me and use them liberally everyday to keep immunity high. One thing is for certain, if she gets that long list of shots, her health will very likely never be the same again.

    October 6th, 2010 12:04 pm Reply
    • CJ

      You cannot be “certain” of that… it will just as likely be the same to be honest…. I received most on that list, as did over a hundred people I worked with, with no change to our current health status. Vaccines for adults aren’t nearly as scary as you think.

      August 1st, 2012 5:27 pm Reply
  • elaine

    Sarah – I so appreciate you taking the time to respond to the (many!) comments I post on the various topics. One of the things we have to consider is that she is basically backpacking with *very* little space and this is for 5 months. I would love to send her off with a 5 month supply of CLO/butter oil and a couple of our favorite herbs but I'm not even sure she could travel with them. This is not a pleasure trip but a mission trip to some pretty remote areas. We've talked about the possibility of sending packages ahead of her but found out that it isn't feasible. You are so smart and seem to think outside of the box – any suggestions would be much appreciated. Thanks!!

    October 7th, 2010 2:49 am Reply
  • elaine

    me again- my mind is still working on this :)
    Also – what do you suggest (besides prayer) we do if she contracts one of these horrific diseases (aforementioned lack of medical care, lack of space for herbs, etc). I don't even know who to believe anymore – are the stats that the CDC website publishes about the mortality rate accurate? Yellow fever, typhoid, malaria, Hep A & B, tetnus to name a few. We were trying to just weed out the absolutely non-essential ones but it's hard to know which ones those are. In the end are you of the mindset that statistically her chances of contracting any of these are smaller than the chances of the vaccines causing health problems? And, if she should contract something – what? is her immune system strong enough to fight it off?? She's relatively healthy but she did get a nasty bug (we assume bad water/parasite) in Peru in June so she's obviously susceptible to things. Sorry to bother you with this but you seem very knowledgeable about this and I'm still wading through so much information : /

    October 7th, 2010 2:57 am Reply
  • Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist

    Hi Elaine, what about homeopathic vaccinations? This may be an excellent alternative for her. I do not know how accurate the CDC information on its website is for these third world diseases. You would need to find a well versed homeopath in your area. Health must be sustained via good nutrition and when the nutrition is not there, health declines very rapidly so if she can't take any FLCO/BO with her and the food is not of great quality, then she will be susceptible even if she is in great health when she leaves which is why I suggest the homeopathic route.

    October 7th, 2010 3:07 am Reply
    • CMWmd

      what is a homeopathic vaccine? Is there any literature you can link me to? I am very interested, thanks.

      April 9th, 2012 6:03 pm Reply
      • Nelli Farkas

        They aremore common in Europe, especially in Germany. There are many pharmacies who specialize only in homeopatic meds opposed to allopatic ones. My daughter who was also in Europe when at elementaryschool, was not vaccinated, but a few classmates, also children of medical daughters if vaccinated were vaccinated by homeopatic vaccines.

        December 11th, 2012 7:31 pm Reply
  • elaine

    I've never heard of homeopathic vaccinations – thanks for mentioning them. I'll go look into that right now. I live in the greater metro Atlanta area and it is (sadly) appalling how few "natural" type doctors/dentists there are in this entire area! Hopefully we can find one in Georgia! (not joking) Thanks so much for your help with this.

    October 7th, 2010 2:33 pm Reply
  • Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist

    Elaine, here is a comment from Sally Fallon, President of the WAPF .. I posed your question to our WAPFChapterLeader Forum:

    "I remember meeting a lady who developed Gilliam Barre and severe chronic
    fatigue after taking a bunch of vaccinations for a trip–she was never right
    afterwards. We have a chapter leader who had the same experience. Don't do
    it! Don't do it! Don't do it!" Sally

    October 8th, 2010 12:18 pm Reply
  • Stephanie

    I have recently become educated on this and other health issues like this. I am in the infant stages of research and am trying to find a pediatrician I can go to that is not afraid to step outside the "medically required" boundaries of treatment and/or vaccinations. I found a Dr. Berger right by me in North Tampa, but the costs are more than I can afford. Do you know of anyone else? Also, if you do not stay on the "recommended vaccination schedule" what do you do with the forms you are required to turn in for schools? Thank you! I look forward to learning a lot from you and others.

    October 9th, 2010 4:22 am Reply
  • Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist

    Hi Stephanie, please email me directly with these local and state questions and I will be happy to answer them. Thanks!

    October 9th, 2010 11:38 am Reply
  • Anonymous

    I am a mother of four children. (Ages 15 months to 8 years). I chose to Homebirth my children and only allowed the three month shots to be given to our eldest son, before realizing that I not only hated the way they were given (baby on table held down and forced, screaming all the way! I had even tried to do it while nursing him, I had read that babies dealt better with blood draws while being nursed, I was denied that ability), but then researched and found only a small amount about the possible problems and decided NOT to do any more vaccines.
    I have to say that I do notice that my children, overall, seem to be sick less often (especially when it comes to ear infections! I have seen many friends with children who were vaccinated with double ear infections that were a constant problem! We have had maybe 2 ear infections in our home in 8 years)
    We get hit, MAYBE once or twice a year with a more than bothersome infection…and the occasional cold about as often. All my children are healthy and I agree, if there is some reason to vaccinate later, maybe we will, but later is better. Thank you Sarah for your article.

    October 16th, 2010 4:55 am Reply
  • Anonymous

    What about parents, like myself, who are on government assistance and have doctors who threaten to not treat the child (as has been the trend) because they pose a "risk" to other patients due to not vaccinating them? It seems to me that being an informed parent who takes control is something reserved for those who are a bit more well-off, while those of us who have fallen on hard times, but still want to maintain a healthy lifestyle have virtually no choice. Government assisted medical insurance comes with lots of rules about primary dr's and the like. We are unable to ONLY buy organic or stock our home with essential oils, which can be QUITE expensive. What do you recommend in situations such as these? I've done research and I know that children born and/or raised under these conditions are FAR more prone to things like asthma, ADD, diabetes and so on.

    October 16th, 2010 5:48 pm Reply
    • Erin

      My children are also on state assisted healthcare. I have never vaccincated any of them, we have four, and another on the way :) My children are very healthy, rarely sick, I think my 6 year old has only had the flu twice in his life. I also do not take my children to regular check-ups, as I don’t want to have to deal with the guilt they will try to put on me for our decisions. If they get any sickness, we use natural cures. We have a wonderful health store in our town that always has great advice and her products are wonderful. If there was ever a time my children were extremely sick, and it was necessary that they be taken to the hospital, the medical professionals there cannot refuse to see them due to them not being vaccinated.
      I guess what I am saying is, if there is a doc that is refusing to see your children, then he/she is not worth seeing either. As far as eating habits, we struggle with that too. We by no means have a perfect eating lifestyle, and I really have no idea how to help there. Organic is ridiculously expensive! If you discover a good alternative to that one, I’d love to hear it!

      March 20th, 2011 2:26 am Reply
      • Nelli Farkas

        Erin! You are a smart mom! Those regular “check ups” “well baby” well child” check ups are nothing else, just vaccine selling sessions. If a child is “well” no nee to be seen by doctors, just because insurance pays the doctors if they see a patient.
        In fact this whole illness industry is a big political and business deception, in which the role of “health care” is far far over represented. The health and well being of a population is mainly and predominantly depends on the life style, mode of existence of it’s people, and not on a costly health care establishment. People of Armenia, or Georgia do have years longer average life expectancy than people in the US, with minimum institutional health care, Cuban babies do have 1 year longer life expectancy at birth than american babies. And I don’t even mention the Mediterranian countries, where healthcare is available, but 80-100 year old are still running around vigorosly, don’t stay in hospitals with tubes hanging out of them… and parents dont really bother with check ups either. Ironically, people who don’t visit doctors offices are becoming far more healthier than those who do routine visits , participate in “prevention” programs, which are rather early detection or often false detection programs.

        December 11th, 2012 7:46 pm Reply
    • DavetteB

      I have been in the same boat too. What you do is the best you can (this topic is my passion) starting with only go the MD when you HAVE to, not necessarily when they tell you to. Our pediatrician asked why she hadn’t seen us in a couple of years and I told her, 1-my son doesn’t get sick that often (he wasn’t in day care or school) and 2-if he does get a cold, I check his ears (an otoscope cost about $10); if they aren’t red it is a virus and antibiotics don’t help viruses. Her reply “Smart Woman”. I don’t need to pay a ten dollar co-pay to be told wait it out. You can still shop around for a doctor; it may take time but you can find one. You may have to flat out say, “Even if you don’t agree with my decision will you at least agree that it is MY decision not yours?”

      One thing inexpensive I did was feed him yogurt everyday with a couple of supplements mixed in. also google Dr. Parcells oxygen soak for meat and produce you get that aren’t organic; it won’t make them organic, but it will get rid of pesticides. Take the money from the packaged process foods and use it for as much whole food as you can. In our area, children that are in the WIC program get vouchers for the Farmers’ Market in the summer – ask around. Some community centers have group gardens where if you work you share the harvest. You can grow fresh sprouts in your kitchen for under a dollar; if they don’t like eating them you can blend them in a smoothie. Look up the Clean 15 and the Dirty Dozen; just eat the clean 15 if you can’t get organic – and do Dr. Parcell’s soak. Try to soak your grains, like brown rice or oats, a few hours or overnight. Longer is better, but even a few hours increases the nutrition. (should clarify – grains are soaked in water and lemon juice or other acid, NOT the Dr. Parcell soak)

      Drink water and decaf green or herbal teas and skip the other beverages. (Save for a good water filter, not a Brita or Pur, and use it for drinking and cooking.) Get books from the library and read blogs that feature traditional foods and add what you can.

      I wish you health and success

      November 26th, 2011 4:31 am Reply
  • Anonymous

    Thanks so much for this post. I have learned much from the comments. In the process of reading the Boston Review article now- so illuminating. As a healthcare professional myself, I have seen firsthand in my own education and work that drugs, vaccines, and products are just accepted without question by most of the staff and patients. I have yet to meet a doctor or nurse who has a deep understanding of the pros and cons to vaccines and can effectively talk clients through their risks and potential benefits. Most aren't even aware of the ingredients or potential side effects or how to strengthen the immune system so people can ward off disease or recover from it without serious comlications.

    I also agree about not using anecdotal evidence to make decisions with or to convince others, but I have also seen it in my own children. The first was fully vaccinated until age 3 and had every illness in the book and was constantly sick. His whole baby and toddlerhood is basically a blur of one horrible illness after another, no sleep, miserable child. When we stopped vacinating at age 3 and began a more whole foods/WAP style of eating he became a different child. My second has only had 3 shots, was also breastfed well into toddlerhood and is the healthiest kid I know. He almost never gets sick, and when he does, he gets a fever, sleeps it off, and wakes up fine. I am doing minimal vaccines for my third as well, plus nursing for as long as possible and eating the best possible diet.

    I am not anti-vaccine, but very pro being educated on vaccines and drugs, and being able to choose the scenario that best fits your individual children, whether it's none, some, or all shots. And sadly, this rarely happens and parents who deviate at all from the standard schedule are kicked out of practices, threatened with scare tactics, and overal villified and treated like they wish to harm their children for making an informed choice. AGain, it's anecdotal, but every non or selectively vaccinating parent I have met has spent many hours doing serious research, and I have yet to meet a fully vaccinating parent who has done exhaustive research and can tell you about the diseases and what ingredients are in the shots and what research has been done (or not) to prove thier safety.

    October 16th, 2010 7:22 pm Reply
  • Carla

    I am very anti-vaccination. My DS had one set and DD never had any. DD is the healthiest of the two. DS has lots of allergies, has many of the symptoms of aspergers and is more prone to get sick (he was hospitalized with H1N1 during the epidemic last year; I held him almost the whole time he was sick and I didn't get it while everyone else had to suit up to even enter the room). I nursed them both until they were 4.5 years old, which I feel helped boost their health. We are in the process of changing our diet because I know that is key in optimal health.

    After doing tons of research, the final deciding factor was when DS was about a year old, I had an ear infection. I was given a tetanus booster pretty much against my will and I had a bad reaction. It took about 5 years for me to be able to normally use my arm and nearly 7 years later, I still have pain at the injection site. This was the final deciding factor in my kids not getting vax's. If it does that to me, what would it do to the precious little bodies of my sweet innocent children? No thank you!

    October 16th, 2010 10:18 pm Reply
  • Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist

    Hi Carla, I also had a reaction to a tetanus booster when I was 19 years old. I got it because I "had to" get it in order to compete in college sports. Within a day or two, I couldn't breathe deeply without terrible pain. My arm where the shot was injected couldn't even be lifted for a week or two. My Father (MD) told me that I had a virus in the nerve that runs though my lung cavity. It took months for this pain to subside and for me to be able to breathe normally again. Giving this poison to a child? Absolutely nuts.

    October 16th, 2010 11:45 pm Reply
  • Sondra

    I haven't read all the comments, but this is an excellent post!! I stopped vaccinating my son after 6 months due to a bad site-reaction. I did my research after that (previously, I just did it because I thought "the doctors wouldn't do anything to harm my child, would they?") and was blown away at the sh*t they were so eager to shoot into my son's veins! A pharmaceutical Meth, if you will.

    One point you brought up that I never thought of though, is the fact that unvaxed children are always healthier than vaxed children. I've just sat here for about 5 minutes thinking of all my friends children, and my own, and they've all had 3x the sicknesses of my children. Very good point, a study should definitely be done!

    One thing that hit home shortly after we made the decision to not vaccinate, was a recalled vaccine (I can't think of it now…). I just thought "How can you recall a vaccine?? It's already causing damage, it's already injected into the fragile bodies, you can't just return it to the store for a refund…"

    I am sharing this with everyone I know!! This is excellent!

    October 17th, 2010 3:40 am Reply
  • Maryn Otto

    I'm a mom to 2 boys (3 1/2 and 9 months). My 3 1/2 yo is vaccinated. I regret it! He has been through a gambit of illnesses. None of which has seen him to the hospital. Thank God! Ever time he was vaccinated, from infant hood on, he would go into a deep sleep right after and then run fevers that would range from 102 to 104. I was appalled! After his last vaccination at 11 months he contracted pneumonia. Its been a respiratory fight, since. On the other hand, my 9 month old baby has never been touched by a needle and has only had a slight cold, so far.

    I based my second child's lack of vaccines off of instinct first. I've been educating myself since. I don't feel that I need a better reason but I have to "fight off" the rest of the mainstreamers like my mother! Gah!

    When I was a little girl, just hitting puberty, I started to break out in a head to toe rash. A toxic reaction, said the Dr's but could never diagnose it. It was a horrible teenage-hood. It would start with being generally sick so I would take something for it. Tylenol, Ibuprofen, ect. Within 12 hours, I would be very serverly sick and break out in a sunburn type rash head to toe. It burned to where I couldn't move without agony and my whole body, inside and out, ached something fierce. I would have a high grade fever with it, at first. After a couple of days, the rash would start to itch. I can't explain the severity of the itch except I would writhe and squirm in agony. If I scratched it, it would increase the itch 10 fold. Then, after a few days of that all the affected skin would peel off. The whole ordeal would last a month or so.

    I broke out about 15 times from age 13-20. The docs never could help. I was seen primarily at Children's Hospital. No medicine could counter the rash, once it began. My best medicine was no medicine. When I was about 18, I realized that when I got a sinus infection or cold, if I didn't take any medicine, I wouldn't break out. Its worked ever since.

    I don't know what I had/have. I don't know that it matters anymore. I do blame it on medicine, in general. Vaccines too. I got my teenage round of vaccines right before breaking out for the first time, I do know that. The worst part was when the doctors started looking at my "mental state" for answers. Thinking that I must be doing it to myself, somehow! Can you believe that?! To say the least, and over the years, I've come to realize that that is why doc's offices are called "practices"! They don't know all and the definetly don't know ME better than I do.

    I haven't taken as much as a tylenol for over 12 years. Its an amazing freedom to realize that humans DON'T need medicine to counter everyday aches and pains. There are a TON of better ways.

    So that is what leads me down this road of natural living. I can't have medicine. Now that I'm a mom, I can't risk another break-out. I don't have the liberty of being in bed, invalid, for a solid week or more to go along with the mental hit that I would take.

    I had natural births with both my sons. No vitamin K injections, no vaccines, no eye goop. I eat with out/very little perservatives, additives, or colors in my food. I don't put chemicals in my body, on my body, or around our bodies. I have a deep faith that you shouldn't mess with nature to try to make it "better".

    Sorry for the ramble. I love all the responses to this. A great read, for sure!

    ~Maryn (Firefifghter/EMT/Mom)

    October 17th, 2010 5:59 pm Reply
    • Jennifer

      Almost my story to a TEEEEEEEEEEE. Thank you for writing that!!! Just as Sarah said below me, I almost teared up too. Thank you thank you thank you!!!

      July 15th, 2012 1:35 am Reply
  • Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist

    Maryn, thank you for sharing this story. I have to say that while I was reading it, I teared up. You are a very brave person.

    October 17th, 2010 6:02 pm Reply
  • Sharon

    Back on May 25th, you made this comment: "My son had a thorn go 3 or 4 inches into his foot once." What kind of thorn is that long and did it go in sideways or up through the heel? 3 or 4 inches sounds like an exaggeration to me. Makes me wonder what else is exaggerated here.

    October 18th, 2010 3:01 pm Reply
  • Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist

    I meant to say the THORN was 3-4 inches long and we have huge thorns on vines and other vegetation here in FL. It penetrated very deeply into his foot and definitely qualified as a puncture wound. I hope your day gets better!!

    October 18th, 2010 3:38 pm Reply
  • Anonymous

    Great post!

    As an expectant mother I have spent many hours researching this topic, and many hours defending my stance on this. Recently I came across a fantastic source of information at There are many articles, and tons of research put nicely together in one place. I read the comments on your post, and I have also found that the `herd immunity` argument comes up a lot in my own discussions with people. Here is a wonderful article pointing out why the herd immunity theory is extremely flawed.

    Health and happiness to all!!

    October 21st, 2010 3:44 pm Reply
  • wingate

    I saw as a child what devastation polio can do. I didn't have many vaccinations when I was a baby. Neither did my sister who suffered encephelitis after a bout of chickenpox. She almost died and has had some difficulty all of her life as a result. There are some exceptions to your rule that I would like you to consider. I know that we don't have it in this country anymore. In third world countries where disease is rampant, vaccination is necessary. These people don't have the nutritional advantage that we do. Their immune system is alrealdy compromised. Do you think that if someone has been bitten by a rabid animal should not get the vaccine? It is 100% fatal.

    November 15th, 2010 4:12 pm Reply
  • Sarah, the Healthy Home Economist

    There are homeopathic vaccines available in cases where a person has been bitten by a rabid animal. Rabies is not 100% fatal either .. I recently read an article about this very thing. There are other options available but most doctors do not talk about them as they want everyone to take the injection approach as this makes more money for Big Pharma and Big Pharma dictates medical school curriculum. Research and education is key for people who seek nontoxic alternatives to vaccines.

    November 16th, 2010 1:03 pm Reply
  • Lindsey, Nate, and Collin

    Wow, where to start. I have one, 7 month old child. I chose to not vaccinate in the beginning while I was still researching. I got alot of bad energy/comments from people all around me, but my Mom always sided with me. I am so glad that I continued to research and feel GREAT about my decision not to vaccinate. I have a husband that never researched this topic and always thought I would vaccinate our children. With the whooping Cough outbreak in California he started to feel uneasy about my decision. I heard from many of my friends that I was making the wrong decision. I do not care what others think, I only feel so SAD for those children that have to suffer! I am so glad that I stumbled upon your blog. This is what I needed to read to feel better about my decision and know that others feel the same as I do. What is weird- is that before I got pregnant, I always thought I would vaccinate. I never thought a second about it. As soon as I had the baby- I just knew that It was a bad thing for him and I never got the first shot in the hospital. I am so glad that I had the intuition/spiritual experience and that I listened to it. Please continue to blog about vaccinations as you find new info.. Thanks Lindsey

    November 18th, 2010 8:07 pm Reply
  • Lindsey, Nate, and Collin

    Everyone should check out
    He has great articles on reasons why to NOT vaccinate. Everyone read this article:

    He has many more articles to read as well. This was one of my favorites.

    November 18th, 2010 11:29 pm Reply
  • Cindy

    I wrote to you yesterday about having to be vaccinated due to my Father being in the military and living in Africa as a child. My husband was also in the military and we have 3 children who are now grown. They were all vaccinated on schedule are are perfectly healthy and happy. My oldest daughter now has 2 children of her own they are 2 1/2 and 6 months old. They have been vaccinated according to schedule and are healthy too. My daughter’s husband is also in the military and if you do not vaccinate your children they will not accept them as patients at military medical clinics.
    Do you think that people living in foreign countries such as Ethiopia, where I spent a great majority of my childhood should not be vaccinated? Diseases such as yellow fever, cholera, hepatitis and malaria are rampant there. We took pills for the malaria like our servicemen serving overseas now do. They also have to get all their childhood shots over again to serve in Afghanistan and Iraq.
    I have never seen a list of the substances you claim are in vaccinations now. Where did you find this? Where do you get your information? Also as I stated yesterday, just think how things might be a little bit better for the people living in Haiti right now had they been vaccinated for cholera.
    I know many OLD veterans and they don’t suffer from Alzheimer’s Disease like you claim is the “Autism of Adults”, yet they took those immunizations to fight for our country. Yet my Grandmother who was never immunized died of it.
    What does your Father think about you not immunizing your children? Also were you immunized as a child? I’m guessing you were if your Father is a physician. Did you feel it negatively impacted your health. I know this is long but I really would like to know. Thanks

    November 30th, 2010 6:44 pm Reply
    • Darc

      “My daughter’s husband is also in the military and if you do not vaccinate your children they will not accept them as patients at military medical clinics.”

      This is not true. I do not vaccinate my children, my husband is currently active duty, and our children ARE seen at the military hospitals/clinics.

      April 25th, 2011 12:28 pm Reply
      • Cindy

        @Darc My daughter and her husband are stationed at Little Rock AFB and they will not see your children at the medical clinic there if you do not vaccinate them. It must vary from service to service or something. I don’t know where you are stationed.

        June 7th, 2011 9:08 am Reply
        • AJ


          You’re wrong. We just PCS’d from Little Rock to Ohio with unvaxed kids. Little Rock AFB clinic treated my children just fine. Does not vary service to service. Tricare is Tricare is Tricare. We get dirty looks from time to time, and have requested a different doctor due to our assigned one being SO rude about it…but they’ve never refused to treat my children.

          June 25th, 2011 2:33 pm Reply
  • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

    Glad your children are healthy but know that the children of today are getting many many more vaccines than yours ever did and most are not faring well with it. I was vaccinated as a child but not until I was 8 years old. I do feel it has negatively impacted my health. I got a Tetanus booster to compete in college sports and had severe neuralgia pain for months as a result of it. Would never do it again and this was from one little shot and I was 19 years old. Vaccines are a barbaric way to address the problem of infectious disease. They will be gone within 2 decades (maybe less) and we will wonder as a society what in the world we were thinking injecting such poisons into babies.

    November 30th, 2010 10:28 pm Reply
  • Cindy

    Thanks for the reply!

    December 3rd, 2010 9:41 pm Reply
  • Sarah T

    Sarah.. love your name, first of all. 😉
    I am so happy to have found your site. I have been through the gammut of “health trends” to heal myself and my children. I did raw, vegetarian, vegan, and the latest has been GFCF. Reading through Sally Fallon’s book.. I understand why my gut won’t tolerate wheat (or any grains for that matter) I am embarking on GAPS to heal and seal.. Yes! :)

    I was fully vaccinated as a child, but that was 25 years ago, so it wasn’t as harmful as the schedule of vaccines is now. My poor son was vaccinated until the age of 5.. he has asthma, eczema, migraines.. and my daughter was vaccinated later in life because we didn’t have insurance to pay for it. A blessing in disguise? She had a horrible reaction to a flu shot at 4 and I swore I would never give her another vaccine again. So we have been vaccine free for 6 years.. still hate that I didn’t know more back then. Both my kids are plagued with health problems because of vaccines.. I just went to the doc yesterday to get my son’s blood work done (for my own research) and I was so talked down to by the pedicatrician about how out of date he was on shots. She even tried the whole “he won’t get into 7th grade if you don’t vaccinate”.. Sickening…

    I’m praying a nourishing diet, with lots of CLO/BO and fermented foods will help heal the damage from vaccines? GAPS first of course. I also almost died after my daughter’s birth from a massive blood clot.. I was injected with massive doses of antibiotics, blood thinners (which they kept me on for 8 plus years before I finally had the courage to get off of them!!) and the like. It is a wonder I’m still here. God wants me here for a reason for sure. :) I am glad to know there are sites like yours that help explain all the lies our country has been believing for years. Any other advice for someone just starting the journey and a little bit overwhelmed?? 😉 Thanks so much for all that you do!!

    December 3rd, 2010 11:07 pm Reply
  • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

    Hi Sarah, you have such a great story to tell .. make sure you tell other Moms to help them avoid the pitfalls you have experienced and don’t ever look back, only forward. What you didn’t know you didn’t know and you can’t beat yourself up about it. Just make decisions as best you can with the information you have available and keep your mind open to paradigm shifts along the way. This seems exactly what you are already doing! :)

    December 3rd, 2010 11:19 pm Reply
  • Sarah T

    Thanks for the encouragement. :) And the reply!

    December 5th, 2010 7:17 am Reply
  • monkeyboy

    This article and the comments have made an interesting read for me.
    My wife and I have done extensive research into the whole Vaccination system in place in the US and compared it to other countries worldwide aswell as looking into the pharmaceuticle companies research into their own product (obviously their results are in favor of their products!). We have looked at great detail into all the known and listed ingredients in just about every childhood shot and have come to a very clear and definitive conclusion, which is merely affirmed by your article here…Vacinations are just a huge money making machine aimed primarily, at the only group of people who are unable to say no for themselves, our children.
    The research we have done have shown more than simply casual links (in our view) between the huge number of shots now ‘required’ and an increase in many chronic conditions and an increase, or atleast high number of infant and toddler mortality when compared to countries who have far far fewer shots.
    Look at information on countries such as Japan and several Nordic/Scandanavian countries comparing their number of shots against their rates of mortality and chronic disease and there is a very clear sign that 34+ shots is NOT working in the US (some Scandanavian countries have 11 shots total and have not only lower cases of the infectious diseases themselves but also longer life expectancy, some of the lowest infant mortality rates and have some of the highest ratings by independant groups for overal standard of life from birth to death).
    Most other countries around the world have looked to the US for ways to improve their society/s and the US has been instrumental in leading the world in many ways, its now time for the US to do the same and stop being so arrogant in their thinking and fanatical belief of Allopathic medicine. Its time now to look at what works in other countries and copy from them for a change before its too late.
    We found some interesting results when searching for charts showing the number of deaths from infectious diseases against a timeline (we used the year 1900 onwards as a basic way of including several known epidemics aswell as giving vacinations a fair shake of the dice). Its funny how the CDC also uses a very similar method to ‘prove’ the effectivness of modern vaccination but they only show the graphs from around 5 years before the vaccine was introduced (so if a shot wasstarted in 1980 their chart of mortality wil only start generally from 1975). Looking at a bigger picture shows a VERY different story from the one the CDC tells. across the board pretty much, all infectious disease was dropping at a very constant and controlled level as the whole ‘1st world’ developed better hygiene practices, better food/nutritional practices and generally began to better understand how thing effected the human body ad how to correct it themselves either prior during or after infection took place. The introduction of vaccines either did nothing at all dramatic, nothing at all, and in some cases actually increased the nmber of deaths from infectious disease sharply for a period before the rate ocne again fell back to a predictable pattern. (One such graph that is VERY easily ‘googled’ : .

    We decided after finding out that it is NOT mandatory to vaccinate in the US that we would stop shooting junk into our little girl (she has recieved a small number of shots only due to our own lack of education on the whole process :( ).
    Even though anecdotal evidence is not supported in the allopathic world our own exeperience is proof enough in the confirming of our research. Litte one here has only once had a cold in 2 years of life, well thats about it, infact that IS it one cold. Her cousin who was born a day before her has already had several ear infections, fevers, colds, snivles etc and is medicated following the mainstream allopathic manner. We breastfed up until lack of production shut the ‘factory’ down around the 18 month mark and have always fed a simple mostly whole food diet which is based around good organic (when we can get our hands on it) foods with very little meat of any type.
    Amazing as it may sound we are NOT anti vax. We are, however, pro education and firmly believe in retaining the ability to make decisions based on what we feel is best for our own following learnign everything we can from both pro and con sources.

    We have suffered from the forcefull nature of the US medical system just as many continue to suffer due to their close minded arrogance, we have been asked by dctors and nurses if we ‘want our child to die?!!’ simply because we refused the HepB vaccine at birth, we have been innundated by pamhlets and ‘crap’ left in our mail box telling us to get our daughter to the doctors office to get her shots done upto date both from the doctors themselves and the pharmeceuticle corporations.

    I’m not telling anyone to not get vaccinated, but to simply thouroughly research before hand loking at both sides of the argument and make an informed ecision based on your findings.

    December 6th, 2010 5:53 pm Reply
    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

      Monkeyboy, congratulations on your ability to handle mental paradigm shifts and your choice to keep your mind open to things that perhaps go “against the grain” of what you’ve been taught for many years. Whenever we think that we have all the answers or that a certain approach is the end all, be all – we are most certainly in BIG trouble as has definitely happened with the barbaric vaccination schedule that the government and conventional medicine is trying to force down our throats.

      December 6th, 2010 8:08 pm Reply
  • Davidas

    My husband is a Marine. As far as I can tell, it’s not true that military hospitals will not treat unvaccinated children. We did vaccinate, but neither have had any in over a decade-no teen year vaccines, or boosters-and they never refused to treat them. I also know military parents who do not vaccinate or who haven’t let their kids get the full vaccination course, and the military hospitals have not refused to treat them. The active duty service member is required to get all the shots, but not family members. I’ve never even been asked if I wanted a flu shot, for either myself or the kids. There’s signs in the ob clinic advocating this year’s shot, but it’s on a bulletin board with all sorts of other papers and ads, and no one has asked me or recommended to me that I get one (I’m 5 months pregnant). I’m still not sure about the whole vaccination thing for this one.

    December 14th, 2010 6:37 pm Reply
  • Kasi

    I’m in the Army; I don’t have a choice in whether or not I get vaccinated. However, military hospitals won’t refuse to treat unvaccinated children, but the schools at overseas bases won’t let non-vaccinated children attend, and the childcare centers on post won’t let your children in, either.
    I already commented on another vaccine-related post, but I’ll say it again: When you don’t vaccinate for at least the basics, you’re a parasite, depending on herd immunity to keep your child’s chance of contracting a potentially fatal or maiming disease low. Nutrition is not the only answer; these vaccines were developed because even before industrial agriculture, these diseases killed. I can perhaps see waiting until 2yo; I can see turning down something like HepB, which is generally sexually transmitted, until the child is older. But a blanket refusal to vaccinate is, I think, foolish.
    Regarding the vaccinated kids being less healthy…. well, you might look up the phrase ‘confirmation bias’. When you have a pre-set idea, you tend to notice and remember evidence that supports your theory and ignore/forget that which doesn’t. Which, I suspect, is the case here. I and my siblings were all vaccinated and we were perfectly healthy, thanks. I think you’re skewing the data on this idea, though it may be subconscious on your part.

    December 19th, 2010 8:20 am Reply
    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

      Kasi, you are completely ignoring the fact that children today are getting 68 vaccinations by by age 12 whereas you and I got THREE. Also, healthy is a matter of definition. I just scratch my head when people tell me they are “healthy” and then go on to describe all the aches, pains, and other problems they suffer from. Most people don’t even know what healthy really is.

      December 19th, 2010 9:22 am Reply
      • Mom and RN

        Okay seriously, to argue that “I think what I think becasue I want to think it and everyone else is lying because they can” is a TERRIBLE argument! And not scientific at all. If you want respect and for things to change from a large number of vaccines to few or none then you have to find actual evidence that supports that it is significantly better for the majority to not be vaccinated. I have read through this article and the majority of replies and I’m sorry Sarah but you routinely belittle and even put down people that have an opinion in favor of vaccines for the same reasons that you do not favor them [ i.e. I have relatives/people I know that have been vaccinated and are healthy, or I have seen children that have suffered severe imparment due to the disease that a vaccine would have esally prevented].
        Many of the responders here that have stated that they are not vaccinating their children are also living an altogether different life-style than the average American family. So yes, when you eat grass grown in your own backyard, live a 100 miles away from an average city and rarely socialize with anyone that has a different opinion than you (inlcuding stupid non-parents who pedal the lies of big pharma), then yes your children will not get polio (that has a higher statistical occurance of life-long paralysis than tetanus does of temporary neralgia0, or mumps (that causes extreme pain and frequently leads to sterility), or tetanus (which if it has already entered the blood stream from a puncture wound, which is when a tetanus booster is reccomended, no amount of soap and water can get rid of).
        And secondly, rabies is 100% fatal if not treated early. PERIOD. Yes you might try and say that there is this homiopathic blah, blah that can make things all warm and fuzzy, but in the end…rabies is 100% fatal. And it was 100% fatal before big pharma was every around.
        Yes there is an increase in occurance of autism, asthema, ADHD, diabetes, auto-immune disorders, mental health problems, developmental delays, etc…in the last few decades.
        And yes, the US has one of the worst infant mortality rates of any industrialized nation.
        However, most of these increases in diseases/disorders have to do with 1) a better and more in-depth understanding of the condition and more accurate diagnosis for patients that were previously just “strange” or “odd” or “shy” (this most specifically applies to autism as it is a spectrum disorder and Asburgers is the most commonly diagnosised part of the spectrum and many of these children would have just been thought of as “funny” in past decades) 2)some of these diseases are now over diagnosised (such as with ADHD or even auto-immune disorders that disappear after childhood?!?) and used as an excuses or scapgoat for out-of-control or just generally sick kids who need little more then discipline or rest or time to grow out of it! 3) Many of the countries that have better infant mortality rates than the US also do not attempt to save and maintain the life of infants born extremely premature (24, 25, 26 weeks gestation and around 1-1.5 pounds) like is expected in the States. Also many of these contries have socialized medicine [however not an advocate of that either] and have more responsible citizens that take advantage of all that healthcare has to offer both during their pregnancies and day-to-day life. Preventative care is one of the BIGGEST determanents of better health even before vaccines or location of where you live. Also these countries provide financial assistance to mothers after delivery until toddlerhood (most at least the first year some even beyond two years) to allow parents to stay home with their infant and encourages breastfeeding (I’m a huge supporter on this one!). 4) Yes the “heard effect” is real! When 95 out of 100 people get vaccinated against illness X then all 100 are protected against it because it is less likely that the other 5 will get it the disease since it is not being spread amoung the other 95 people. That is just basic math there! Deny it all you want, but just because you say that is it not the truth doesn’t mean that it isnt the truth. The color red is always red even if you try and say that you think it is blue.
        Finally, the reason that vaccines were created or even thought up in the first place is because the actual disease suck! People and specifically kids and babies DIED from many of the illness as recently as 50 years ago. The reason small pox doesnt exsist anymore is because of vaccines. The reason that you and your children are safe against diptheria, typhoid, polio, and mengitis is because everyone else’s kid is being vaccinated against them and so are/were all their parents. And even something like Gardisil is helping…HPV is contracted from sexual contact. However there is currently no way to test male partners for this disease. So female partners only find out that their partner had it when they test positive for it on a Pap smear. HPV has a high rate of developing into cervical cancer that can lead to death, hysterectomy and even cervical insufficancy (when a pregnancy can not be maintained beyond approx 22 weeks and a woman spontaniously goes into labor and delivers a baby that is born alive but to young and underdeveloped to survive and so a mother must sit there and hold her child as it dies in her arms attempting to fight to breath when there is not enough lung tissue to allow oxygen exchange and the baby eventually dies, sometimes in minutes sometimes hours!) all because she did not receive a vaccine that might make her feels dizzy or light-headed for a little bit of time but would have protected her against the disease that lead to half her cervix being destroyed and holding a dying child.
        And speaking of dying children; what about all the parents that choose not to vaccinate and end up loosing their children to purtusis (whooping cough), measles, or cholera (as previously pointed out thousands are dying from in Haiti currently)??? Is it a fair risk to maybe lose your child or have severe, long-term imparement such as paralysis or an inability to have children an even trade for a small and undefined risk of a few children getting childhood asthema, being ill-tempered or have 3 extra colds a year. I would rather have a child that is sick 4 or 5 more times a year then risk not having my child at all!!!
        Did you know one of tha major reasons that the average size of the American family has dropped from 5 children to 2 in the last century is VACCINES! More babies live to childhood and then adulthood partially due to vaccines then they did a century ago…you dont have to worry about only having 2 children and both of them dying from wooping cough or polio!

        And your previous arguement that you gave a poster of “well you must not have children, otherwise you would understand…” doesn’t work here. I do have a wonderful and exceptionally healthy daughter and she has received ALL of her vaccines including flu shots as have I including a recent TDaP booster. Now, I am not uneducated and I have had arguments with my pediatrician about the frequency, volume, placement, and components of various vaccines. Whether she should receive 6 shots at one time (NO), get 3 different combo shots at one time (NO), vaccines being placed in a small muscle at a young age [which increases the risk of hitting a nerve or not allwoing all of the medicine to stay in the muscle for proper absorption] ( surprise, NO to this one also). I DO agree with the point that you and several other posters have placed in that you must be informed and speak up for your opinion, ask questions and always make choices in the best interest of your child. However, this can be done reasonably while also protecting against serious and fatal illnesses. I would also add that I DO believe that more research needs to be done to properly identify the cause of the increase in childhood disorder diagnosis and that companies that make vaccines do need to be held more accountable for their products so that the public can feel confidence and security in the product that is being produced!

        In the end there is no simple solution as well as no solution that fits every family or every child. Maybe a child whose mother has shown a tendency for severe reactions to medications should be much more cautious with regards to vaccines. Children who are homeschooled and living in remote or rural areas dont necessarily need all the same shots that a child living in the inner city and goes to daycare everyday might need due to different levels of exposure. This is all makes sense, but your previous blanket statement of “vaccines will be gone in 20 years” is false and completely idiotic just because you personally dont know of any unhealthy non-vaccinated children. I also don’t know anybody that has a small dog that doesnt yip and yap all the time. Does that mean that all small dogs must yip and yap therefore we should take drastic measures against it? No, it just means that is my personal experience; it is limited and subjective. That is why it is important to base things on objective, scientific data instead of “he said, she said”. And id you feel so strongly the best thing to do I support research and advocate for change not just bury your head in the sand and say “I’m right because I know that I’m right and that is all I need”. If you truely feel that our children are being posoined by vaccines and they serve no other purpose beyond making money for some big pharma company, that they help in no other way and that a simple diet change, playing in the dirt and some willow root extract is going to make everyone better (which this is exactly what families did a centruy ago!!!) then prove it!!! Otherwise you are simply contributing to big pharam killing everyone else’s kids because we were too stupid to know any better. And how could you live with yourself if you let that happen to everyone else?
        [okay that was a bit crude, but you get my point: if you are right then you are simply talking the talk instead of walking the walk while you KNOW that today’s kids are being posioned and are suffereing and dying-or-you are wrong and are just trying to make some parents feel badly about choosing to trust current medical practice when there is no sufficently supported counter arguement-or- there is a middle ground somewhere that could benefit both side and keep everyone’s kids healthy but you are being too stubborn to compromise and support research and a better understanding because it might be proven that vaccines are helpful]

        There is my soap-box…thank you for listening :)

        January 1st, 2011 2:27 am Reply
        • Celine SHaw

          Hmmm I think some one is a bit hell bent.. MOM and RN.. I think a little research from the cdc web site and From Merk is in order for you.. Also IOM.. Oh and the poor unhealthy mother who never had a pap smear who lost her child that is a terrible thing to witness I’m sure. But hey the gardasill shot is creating That ” one Less” like the ten year old boy and the 89 other deaths from the shot. Right they don’t have to worry about that even though the rate of cervical cancer death rate is less than that number. A mazing. That you would ramble on about how disease ridden we are or even where.. Look here is a video you as a “Nurse” should watch, to see That there is a VERY REAL RESON WHY NOT TO VACCINATE. And if you don’t watch it, then you will just be like what you said about SARAH. your right and everyone else is crazy.

          January 2nd, 2011 9:52 pm Reply
          • Mom and RN

            So, I watched that video as you recommended (it would have been nice to note that it is 3 hours long when you posted it however!). I did find the information provided by Dr Tenpenny very interesting. As I stated in my previous post, I’m not saying that there are not issues with vaccines, that certain diseases may be more readily diagnosised after the instution of a high vaccine schedule, and that some are over the top (specifically chicken pox). Yet if you pay attention to what the speaker from your video says there are benefits AND risks to vaccines. Many of the vaccines were tested for the safety on older children but now that they are being given at such an early age we are seeing more complications. MMR is one that comes to mind. Yes mumps has a real potential for causing sterility in older children who contract the diease, this fact was confirmed by Dr.Tenpenney in your video. But it does have a low risk of longterm complications in early childhood. So maybe a better solution is to wait to vaccinate not at 6 months but rather 10 years old. The risk is for post-pubecent children. So vaccination at 10 years old would allow a child to develop not only neurologically and reduce the risk of autism as well as other possible auto immune diseases but would protect against possible sterility if contracted in young adolescene. It would also allow the approx 10 year prtection window to continue into young adulthood when a parent might likely be exposed to a young un-vaccinated child who has contracted the disease wile caring for them at home. The other side though is that Dr Tenpenny praised the HiB vaccine for not having preservatives and really working well to solve the major side effects of HiB infections such as long term hearing loss, however it too as been associated with risks…so where do we start and where do we stop? Do we all just dig our heads into the sand and say that “i am rihgt and you cant change my mind” or do we just try and figure out the best plan to keep our kids safe?!?!?! Because you can not seriously believe that the world would be a better place if we all just stopped vaccinating all of our children right now and let all the disease run wild and free…that is just not a realistic point of view. But in the same breath it is not realistic to think that a medicine (which is what a vaccine is) doesnot have some side effects mild or severe for some children; and that those side effects do not need to be addressed is alos rediculous!!!

            January 10th, 2011 3:47 am
        • Twinmom

          Excellent comment Mom and RN. As a former academic researcher turned sahm, it is difficult for me to listen to anyone who is opposed to vax based on the types of arguments posted here. Most of the young people in our research bldg that worked in the vaccine research labs were very passionate about finding answers to preventing diseases that truly devastated their home populations. Can you imagine what it would mean globally to have an effective HIV vaccine? Malaria? I feed my family as much ‘real food’ as I can and purchase mostly organic produce/dairy/eggs/meat, make sure they are well rested, send them outside as much as possible – and fully vaccinate them, on schedule because I have faith in my pediatrician and his desire to keep my kids safe. I find it insulting to insinuate that any pediatrician would put his patients at risk for a ‘kickback’. The reason some pediatricians do not want to see your kids if they are not vaccinated is because it would break their heart to lose a patient to a preventable illness due to a parents ill informed decision and narcissistic belief that they know more than their health practitioner. Dangerous childhood disease are making a comeback in under vax areas of the country. Specifically whooping cough in Boulder, CO and in parts of CA, due to undervaccinating. This puts the entire population of those areas at risk, esp the elderly and the babies either unvaccinated or too young to be fully vaccinated. This is not just a lifestyle choice, but a dangerous and selfish decision.

          August 11th, 2011 11:26 pm Reply
          • Claire

            I had vaccination separately for measles and rubella as a child, and then I had mumps in grade school. Twenty years ago, I was told that I had to get the MMR vaccine to attend graduate school because I did not have a mumps vaccine. At the time, I didn’t know the risks of the MMR vaccine and didn’t know I could refuse it on philosophical beliefs. I believe that MMR vaccine screwed up my gut, and I have suffered since. You can see regular bumps on my stomach that look like measles. The measles in the MMR vaccine are not the same as measles you would contract if you got sick. My acupuncturist has made the same observation of his son who was vaccinated with MMR and the son that was not. The son that was vaccinated can’t eat dairy. I have the same problem myself. I don’t think there is a good argument for getting vaccinated as an adult either.

            January 19th, 2012 5:03 pm
        • Jennifer

          Mom and RN, check out this article by the CDC

          “The effects of whole-cell pertussis vaccine wane after 5 to 10 years, and infection in a vaccinated person causes nonspecific symptoms (3-7). Vaccinated adolescents and adults may serve as reservoirs for silent infection and become potential transmitters to unprotected infants (3-11). The whole-cell vaccine for pertussis is protective only against clinical disease, not against infection (15-17). Therefore, even young, recently vaccinated children may serve as reservoirs and potential transmitters of infection.”

          Looks like the vaccine itself is causing pertussis…

          October 17th, 2012 3:38 pm Reply
      • MNMommy

        I just have to ask – how old are you that you only received three vaccines? I as a child received far more than that, and I’m not a “young” mom by any means.

        June 5th, 2011 1:16 am Reply
  • Jill

    This would be worthy searching out, but I read a while back about a study among Amish children (who are not vaccinated) that revealed that the only Amish children who could be found with autism were those who were not born in traditional Amish communities, but were adopted in AFTER receiving infant vaccinations. I quit having my children vaccinated at the time their 12-year old booster shots were due, after finally researching the subject (though I did refuse the chicken pox vaccine when they were little). I wish I would have researched the topic before they were born. Both of them have food allergies and my son has struggled with hyperactivity and attention issues. I always tell my kids to refuse all vaccinations until their children are at least 2 years old, which will give them the time they need to thoroughly research each disease and vaccine for those diseases (before giving in to pressure to go with the flow….and then hope for the best).

    January 3rd, 2011 9:53 am Reply
    • MNMommy

      Again, there are a lot of other factors here. They don’t have Tylenol, for example, which is showing to contribute to/possibly activate the gene responsible for some types of autism. They don’t have the prepared food that we have. They don’t have the technology that we have. They don’t live in the pollution that others do. There are some VERY different environmental factors between the Amish and the average American – I do not think you can make a blanket statement saying that they don’t have autism because they don’t get vaccinated.

      June 5th, 2011 1:25 am Reply
      • Shannon

        Sorry, but as an ex-Amish, I’ve got to correct this one. There is Tylenol, Advil, Excedrin, on and on and on… There is plenty of processed food as well. Yes, mostly garden produce and home grown meat, but OH the white flour, white sugar, cream cheese in everything, kool-aid all the time, dessert two or three times a day… And, yes, most don’t live in the thick of smog, but pollution is everywhere, air, water, land…

        September 29th, 2011 10:15 am Reply
        • Helen T.

          I’m from an Amish area in northern Indiana, and they’re at McDonalds all the time….and Dairy Queen.

          If you go to one of their bakesales, things are done with the worst ingredients….Cool Whip, etc.

          February 5th, 2012 5:59 am Reply
    • CJ

      Hyperactivity and attention isn’t an issue… why on earth would you call that an issue? Especially in a boy? My son is the same way… extremely hyper and with the attention span of a gold fish. Just because it’s hard for him to sit still or listen to a set of directions, doesn’t mean he has issues, even if he seems out of control in our uber-civilized, structured to one type of person, systematic society. He could be considered a great warrior in other countries for all anyone knows, certainly not a boy with “hyperactivity and attention issues”. These aren’t necessarily symptoms, these are also personality traits.

      Sorry, that comment struck a nerve, can you tell? lol :) It goes along with all the over-diagnosis of ADD in boys especially. I think the ADD statistic should be thrown out the window of all medical arguments, because it’s bogus, it’s not a disease or a disorder, it’s a different way of functioning/thinking. There are techniques of tailoring the environment to suit the needs of a child with an ADD-like brain, it’s not that the child is defective and incapable of learning. We have such a factory way of educating our children, and we expect them all to be able to thrive in it, just insanity to think that way.

      August 1st, 2012 6:19 pm Reply
  • Ann

    “Someday there will be a study that shows that unvaccinated children have many less health problems than their vaccinated peers,” you say. This is your hypothesis, why don’t you run the study? Especially since you seem to know so many unvaccinated children?
    And please don’t comment on well run studies if you haven’t read them! “How about hormone replacement therapy for women?” How about it? Did you read the study? I wasn’t done on menopausal or even peri-menopausal women. A women had to be age 70 or greater to get in the study! By that time the ravages of Alzheimers and cancer had made their inroads. What was the govenment thinking, giving HRT to 70 yr old women??
    Be very careful what you publish about reports if you haven’t read the original studies and conducted your own analysis.
    I personally know 2 unvaccinated children in one family, one is blind the other deaf from diptheria (you know the one, it’s in the DPT vaccination, along with whooping cough).
    I agree, the drug companies are not innocent, and need more regulation especially for the phase 4 trials which are supposed to log adverse affects after FDA approval. Vioxx would not have remained as long as it did if these studies had been properly conducted and docs had not been “bribed” to prescribe them. The same is true for Neurontin and many other drugs.
    Definitely, do your homework, investigate, but not on sites like this! Go to the original studies. And Don’t put our children at harms risk. As the number of unvaccinated children grows, so will the epidemics. Like the polio epidemic when I was a child. I lost playmates and many that didn’t die,now have permanent limb damage and are starting to require joint surgeries.
    Those who don’t learn from history must repeat it.

    January 3rd, 2011 9:11 pm Reply
    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

      Here you go, Ann. At the time I wrote this post, I didn’t know about this info by Dr. Eisenstein. I wrote about it in a subsequent post which I guess you haven’t read. I don’t expect it to convince you though. You seem quite happy inside the box of conventional thought on health and wellness.

      Check out this video and website by Dr. Mayer Eisenstein MD, who since 1973, has observed virtually no asthma, allergies, ADHD, ADD, autism, in over 35,000 cases of unvaccinated children.

      January 3rd, 2011 9:55 pm Reply
      • Reality

        Hey Sarah, I have a tip for you. If you want to support your argument with facts, you need to quote more than one MD’s anecdotal evidence. For someone who seems so well read, its surprising that you cant distinguish between anecodotal evidence and a scientific study.

        October 28th, 2013 12:03 pm Reply
  • Dave

    Graph’s show that vaccine are not the reason that the below disease declined!!

    January 4th, 2011 12:02 pm Reply
  • Veronica

    You seem pretty skilled at finding evidence to counter the mainstream theories about the efficacy of vaccines, so I thought I’d send you the latest article out today to see what you’d say about their attempts to talk about the Myths associated with the anti-vaccinaton movement.

    On a related side note–I would like to point out something that I find ironic in your postings about the vaccines. As much as I read your vaccine postings as well thought out and researched, I also find that there is a tone of fear in them that is ironic to me. You say that the Drs and Big Pharm want to scare us into getting vaccinated. Yet you also use the tone of fear- “Someday there will be a study that shows that unvaccinated children have many less health problems than their vaccinated peers. Don’t wait until this study is finally done because it will be too late for your child.” Point is–i’m a social worker, I work hard to build relationships with the families I work with based on trust, optimism, hope. Making them afraid drives them away. Don’t you think you might go a long way to build relationships with people who DON’T agree with you by using other tactics then your own version of fear mongering? I can read your posts and take your research at face value-you have valuable things to say. Where you lose me though is you throwing your hat into the fear ring. Its a tired trick. Our culture has become consumed with fear. We are paralyzed by fear. See: Glenn Beck-King of Fear Mongering. It just all sounds manipulative to me at this point “do that, don’t do this”. Its exhausting. 24/7 media and blogs like this don’t help in our country’s dire need to reduce fear and accusations as our main forms of communication.

    January 5th, 2011 11:13 pm Reply
  • Tamra

    Imagine being an R. N. , working in an NICU(neonatal intensive care unit), working with premature(as young as 22-23 wks. gestation) and sick babies, working at a pediatrician’s office. & not vaccinating my kids(or myself). Not something I necessarily advertise:), but if a parent asks me, I tell them the truth- that after much research, we have decided not to vaccinate, but is up to them to ask questions, do their research, and decide for themselves

    Good conversation all around, from the blog to all the comments, for & against:):). Just good to be talking about it and not blindly following(as with anything:)

    January 6th, 2011 7:46 pm Reply
  • Digitalangel3

    Thank you for this article. The only thing that really bothered me was when you said ” Fully Vaccinated Children are the Unhealthiest, Most Chronically Ill Children I Know” I go to a church with other young couples. Altogether our church has 20-30 young children – children between 2-8. My children have all been vaccinated and are among the healthiest group of the bunch. If they get sick it lasts a day. With they exception of my youngest mind you. he has eczema really bad. However they also rarely have a cold too. My brothers family has never been vaccinated but the have allergies and asthma just like their mom. Anyway i also know that things depend a lot on good diets and stuff which we eat pretty healthy. Thanks again for the informative web site

    January 11th, 2011 5:04 pm Reply
    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

      Hi Digitalangel3, comparisons between individual families may vary as you suggest and have observed. However, in general, if you observe all the children you know who are vaccinated versus the unvaccinated, the differences are huge. And, you are so right. Diet is a big part of sustaining whatever health a child comes into the world with. A nonvaccinated child that eats junk food all the time will obviously have issues. Generally speaking, unvaccinated children comes from families that are more diet conscious than not. Thank you for commenting with your personal story.

      January 11th, 2011 5:24 pm Reply
    • Cindy

      My 2nd child has had bouts of asthma, and my 4th suffers with eczema, both which have been controlled by diet and lifestyle … I can only imagine how much more they would have suffered had I relented to healthcare professional’s constant badgering and given into the big V …

      January 29th, 2011 4:27 am Reply
    • Helen T.

      What about my friend who’s been a music teacher at a Lutheran school forever? His observation is: why at noon does the school nurse have to hand out so many meds to the children? This according to him never happened 30 years ago. At most you would have ONE kid needing attention……not a dozen.

      February 5th, 2012 6:05 am Reply
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  • SLee

    I just discovered your website! Awesome! Thank you! I have 3 boys 11-15. 2 were home births, the middle a C-Section. He was breach and I tried to deliver him vaginally, but it wasn’t happening. My boys all got vaccines, but at my schedule and not exactly what was populary given at the time. They are healthier than most and when they do get something it last only a day. They are very athletic and active. They eat well. They were nursed for their first 8-12 months as often as they wanted. They nursed until they wanted to stop. Between the 3, they only had a total of 5 jars of baby food, none of which was ever finished. They hated the taste of dead canned food. What they got was whole food, what ever was on my menu was on theirs, mashed according to need with breast milk or water. My middle son who was born at a well respected hospital is the one who has the most “health issues”, sinus issues and dry skin and when there is something that gets us, he seems to get it the worst. He slept in the hospital bed with me the whole time but he did get that dose of the epidural. A friend who’s kids have never been vaccinated, are much more sickly than mine. They eat organic. We do as we can and afford to. But we focus on eating whole foods and rarely have soda or fast food. For us it’s about balance. My sister is Rubella, born during the German Measle epidemic of the mid 60’s. My kids got the MMR vaccine at a later age than the doctor would have liked. The Polio vaccine was spaced out more and they were given the “dead” vaccine instead of the live which was creating the new cases of the disease. It was a huge epidmic and it would be horrible for it to come back. The pertusis vaccine given was one that was given in Japan and later made it to the states. I think there are a multitude of factors that play a role in how vaccines affect our kids. And for sure, they are given way too many, way too soon for their tiny bodies. But beliefs and emotions play a powerful role in our overall health as well.
    Health is in our hands, not the hands of anyone else. Only we can know what’s best for ourselves. Thank you for this wonderful forum!

    January 23rd, 2011 3:50 pm Reply
  • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

    Welcome SLee! Thank you for your comments. This blog is for people who THINK for themselves, not people who blindly follow the crowd or what their doctor/school nurse/nutritionist says. There is no substitute for personal responsibility when it comes to health.

    January 23rd, 2011 4:13 pm Reply
  • Erwin Alber

    As far as I am concerned, vaccination is an organised criminal enterprise dressed up as disease prevention.

    “Belief in immunization is a form of delusional insanity.”
    Dr Herbert Shelton, USA

    “I was shocked to find that this whole vaccine business was indeed a gigantic hoax.”
    Dr A Kalokerinos MD, Australia

    “Vaccines contain substances which are so noxious they should not ever be injected into a human body.”
    Dr Viera Scheibner PhD, Australia

    January 28th, 2011 11:55 pm Reply
  • Sue

    I have 4 children. The eldest (born 1982) had one dose of DPT which was given late. He then had a persistent and whoop cough which lasted the whole winter. After this we tried to give him just DT for the next vaccine but were stonewalled. So we started to research. Due to this we made the decision for him to have no further shots and the other 3 children had no vaccines at all. They are now 28, 25, 23 and 20. The eldest two had one ear infection after a swimming lesson. None had antibiotics until adulthood. The 23 yr old took a while to breathe when born. At around 2 she suffered croup and was given a homoeopathic remedy and that cured her. Around 9 she had a anaphalactic reaction to an unknown substance. I firmly believe that vaccines would have been dangerous for her. My youngest has some health issues which are yet to be diagnosed. Again I believe that vaccines would have severely affected her immune system. I live in NZ and was involved with a group who supported parents of children who had adverse reactions to vaccines. Many found the medical professionals they encountered would not admit that vaccines were the cause. For some 80 that were accepted as vaccine damage only 3 made it to the official statistics. One was 8 weeks prem and so still 2 weeks prem when given his “6 week” shots. He is now in a wheelchair due to cavvine induced spastic quadraplegia. His reaction caused a health department warning that premmies should not receive shots until 6 weeks after their due date. After divorce I was a single mum with low income. We live in a city and our diet was very average. We did take regular Vitamin C and only used homoeopathic medicines. Do I think the world would be better without vaccines? Yes I do. Any graph (see link above for one) will show how much these diseases had declined prior to the intervention of vaccines. I have to wonder if these diseases would no longer be around without vaccines. Can someone tell me why we no longer have the Black Plague? It disappeared prior to vaccines. Herd immunity? This was effected by the population having come in contact with the illness over generations and everyone having natural immunity which mothers passed on to their babies. Did you know that vaccinated mothers do not pass immunity to their babies? One problem with the herd immunity theory is that fully vaccinated children are still getting these diseases. It is true that the only cases of polio in the last 20 years came from vaccinated children. My children had measles and chickenpox as youngsters with no issues. I accept that there is a risk with the diseases but it was our choice to take that risk rather than the risk of vaccines damaging their immune systems. Some of the people above who have chosen to vaccinate have done so at a timing and in a manner which has lessened the risks to their children. I applaud them for that. Others who have completed research and still decided to vaccinate have made their choice as I did with the willingness to live with the risks. What I find hard is the multitude who have no idea that there are risks from vaccines. And for some of these it will be too late by the time they have a vaccine injured child.

    January 29th, 2011 3:33 am Reply
    • Sarah T.

      Just wanted to point out that the Black Plague is still around.

      Reference to article:

      “Unlike smallpox, the plague never will be eradicated. It lives in millions of animals and on billions of fleas that reside on them. It is a disease of the desert, the steppes, the mountains, and the forest.”

      I believe here in California, there was a reported case of Bubonic plague as recently as 2006. I know that where locally where I live, the US Forest Service has found instances of squirrells being infected with the black plague. I believe it is still easily treated with antibiotics.

      To me, the biggest issue we will face is the fact of antibiotics no longer working due to resistance. Sadly, I do not think that in twenty years we will be celebrating the end of all infectious diseases . Instead, I believe that most of our antibiotics will no longer work and we will get the “joy” of watching our children and families die of staph and strep infections, pneumonia and other diseases treated with antibiotics today.

      February 12th, 2011 2:29 pm Reply
      • Kelli

        There are natural antibiotics such as tea tree oil, colloidial silver, and vitamin C.
        However, “modern” medicine instead of researching alternatives to antibiotics continues to arrogantly overuse antibiotics. Many of these natural alternatives are actually superior to the conventional ones.

        April 25th, 2011 9:31 am Reply
        • Helen T.

          You are so right – my sister just found a rememdy for a long term (YEARS even) problem with mucus and sinuses.

          She had seen an allergist and wasn’t getting anywhere. Her results came back that she wasn’t even allergic to anything.

          She just started gargling twice a day with salt water, and PRESTO – not much time after the mucus wasn’t there……a miracle really! No meds — no side effects.

          February 5th, 2012 6:14 am Reply
      • LAUREN

        So that I just read your post. I am a nurse and I just had to complete a “annual training” module. Well I laughed aloud when I read the
        QUESTION: “Which is a good step in the fight against antibiotic-resistance”?

        I got excited…thinking ohh maybe it will actually address antibiotic over-usage….

        ANSWER: “Getting all your vaccinations”.

        HUH?!?! I’m. just. plain. confused.

        The majority of vaccines (flu, mumps, measles, rubella, polio, HPV, rotavirus, hep B, hep A, chicken pox…..) are for VIRUS’!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How the heck does ensuring that we have those help the COLOSSAL issue of antibiotic-resistance organisms?

        And it’s interesting to note the complication what some vaccines have brought to microbe mutation and virulence. The first HIB shot was only for 7 strands, recently they created a whole new vaccine with 13 different strains in it because the old vaccine caused new uncommon strains to become common and virulent. Hmm…

        Anyways– I suppose the assumtion on my o-so-informative training module was that if you do get a bacterial vaccine (pneumococcal/menigococcal/Hib) you are “preventing” yourself from getting that specific strain (not for sure) and being one less person who might need an antibiotic for an infection….and one less person to contribute to the antibiotic resistance issue from OVER-USAGE. Hm… that’s kinda a stretch. I think a better answer would have been:
        ANSWER: STOP TAKING ANTIBIOTIC FOR NOTHING-NESS….colds, flus, aches, ear-infections, skin infections, sinus infections….t
        he list goes on and on. Now that would REALLY help this huge issue…that I completely agree Sarah T….is killing and will be killing more of our family then we could ever imagine. A completely man-made epidemic brought on by the ABUSE of medicine.

        January 14th, 2012 4:33 am Reply
    • Helen T.

      Yes, another red flag is: you get the vaccine, you get a reaction. But never, NEVER is there a correlation. Oh, really? That’s just some AMAZING coincidence, isn’t it.

      That’s another reason to question their good faith…..

      February 5th, 2012 6:10 am Reply
  • Kelli

    Great article. I shared w/ my facebook community :) I started off vaccinating with my oldest.. and now my youngest (fourth) has not had any. It’s so important to get people thinking about who they are allowing to make the decisions for the health of their children. It’s sad that our society has succumbed to lies perpetrated by a huge industry and our government puts a big ‘old stamp of approval on it.

    I think it would be great if your article also included information regarding the fact that the CDC is run by former pharmaceutical employees. The fox is guarding the hen house!

    February 4th, 2011 11:36 am Reply
  • Katie

    Just wanted to say thank you for this article, helps to know I’m not alone. Trying to turn a crowd rushing for the door is a very hard thing to do, even if turning will save their lives. I appreciate the time you have taken to put this out and the many other articles you have written. I’m just getting started on the reading and like what I’ve seen so far! God Bless, Katie: Mother of 7

    February 9th, 2011 5:22 pm Reply
  • Rachel

    Just wanted to say that I suffer from an autoimmune disease. It started around the time that I started a job at a hospital and had to be vaccinated for HepB. I had my first child just before this and had him fully vaccinated by 12/18 months as well. None of my other 6 children have been vaccinated. The oldest is dyslexic, has attention problems, cannot stay on task. He is otherwise very bright but cannot focus. He also still wets the bed nearly every night at 13 years old. None of the other children have these issues.

    March 14th, 2011 5:57 pm Reply
  • Kel

    Thank you so much for posting this article! It makes me feel less crazy for not vaxing my toddler. We were going to do a delayed and selective schedule at first but then I started reading more and decided to hold off all vaccines until she is school age and we can make better decisions. I want to avoid vaccinating completely while my husband wants her to get a few. Hopefully we can meet a compromise by age 5. I am shocked at how many from the medical profession think I’m a horrible and ignorant mom for not vaxing…I guess they’re brainwashed by the pharmaceutical companies.
    I think the most important point is you can’t undo a vaccine! I can ‘undo’ delaying and not vaxing but parents who choose to vaccinate cannot undo their decision and while they argue that they were vaccinated and are ‘normal’ I argue that I wouldn’t know that would be the case with my child until it was too late. I’m a teacher and I see too many kids suffering from ADHD, autism, and other issues that are just a ‘fluke’ according to the medical community but I believe its from our vaccines and things we feed our kids (like the MSG…oh hey wait, they also put that in vaccines)!

    March 22nd, 2011 3:59 pm Reply
  • Kelly

    I have said it once and I will say it again. You are a nut. The more you post, the more I feel the need to say something.

    You are too high and mighty for your own good. You are telling people to not get their kids vaccines. Nice. Why not sign the death certificate for them as well? You are a huge nut. Nothing more.

    I wonder if nuts are healthy???

    March 29th, 2011 11:19 am Reply
    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

      Of course I’m a nut. I don’t go along with the conventional foolishness, now do I? :)

      March 29th, 2011 2:55 pm Reply
      • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

        Interesting though, your comment about how the more I post, the more you feel the need to say something. Why do you even read my blog if I’m such a nut? Something must ring true to you deep down even if you don’t consciously admit it. Can’t tear yourself away from the truth, can you?

        March 29th, 2011 2:57 pm Reply
  • Christy

    You said, “In my own circle, the Moms I know who have one or two older kids who are fully vaccinated and the younger kids who did not get any shots tell me that, hands down, that the unvaccinated children are healthier and have less problems.”
    That is what I have experienced with my older two vs. my younger three so far. I wrote about it here:

    April 2nd, 2011 10:34 pm Reply
  • Anthony

    Hi Sarah, just thanking you for a wonderful article. As a new and very happy parent of a healthy – unvaccinated – 1 year old boy, I am so grateful that we had information at our disposal that helped us protect our baby. So far he has NOT been sick even once – not a sniffle, not any problem at all. And this despite the fact that I was sick with flu for a good week , and he was exposed to a houseful of our close family who were all infected. Nothing. Common sense tells the open-minded person that vaccines are (in the vast majority of cases) unnecessary. We humans have lived and thrived for 100’s of thousands of years on this planet and we have never needed vaccines. Clearly its the pharmaceutical companies that need them more than human beings.

    April 3rd, 2011 11:26 pm Reply
  • Allyson

    Wow. I simply cannot believe the nerve of people who make posts like this. Skepticism is a virtue, but only when well placed. The increase in antivax mentality is the cause of many of the recent preventable disease outbreaks, especially among children. If you don’t want to vaccinate yourself, that’s fine. However, by refusing to vaccinate your children, you are not only putting THEM at risk for diseases which could kill them, you are putting other peoples’ children at risk as well. I will certainly agree that overmedicated children are a problem these days, but preventing them from being vaccinated for potentially deadly diseases is sheer idiocy. There is a REASON life expectancy is so great in this day and age – one such reason is that we are able to prevent childhood mortality from many diseases which used to be huge problems. Some examples are polio, measles, mumps, rubella, and smallpox.

    Don’t put your kids at risk. Get them vaccinated. Oh, by the way? Your ignorance shows with this little gem:

    “…human diploid cells (the dissected cells of aborted fetuses)…”

    That isn’t what diploid means. Diploid cells are cells with 2 of each type of chromosome, or almost any cell that isn’t an egg or sperm cell. Egg and sperm cells are haploid cells, and have only one of each chromosome. Please, for the sake of the wellbeing of your readers, educate yourself on what words mean before you use them.

    April 22nd, 2011 12:09 am Reply
    • Lesley

      Allyson, do you work for a pharmaceutical company? Using insults and inciting fear seems to be the main method for promoting vaccines.

      By the way, YOUR ignorance shows through in your post. Pharma has widely documented and defended their use of aborted fetuses to develop certain vaccines.

      April 22nd, 2011 1:31 am Reply
      • Anna is an excellent website for information on the use of fetal cells in the development of vaccines. It also lists which vaccines are from fetal cell lines and which ones are from other sources, such as chicken embryo. Our pediatrician was very surprised when I showed her the info – listed in the vacc. insert. More info to use to become educated.

        December 28th, 2011 12:22 pm Reply
      • mark

        you over shot the point she wasn’t denying that they use egg cells and fetuses she was commenting on the incorrect use of terminology (diploid/haploid), read the post properly and you will se she made no comment on them not using them.

        December 28th, 2013 9:21 am Reply
    • Helen T.

      Huh? You actually said the unvaccinated are putting everybody at risk? Why the outrage? You’re protected, aren’t you???? Because…..YOU’RE VACCINATED!!! Yes, what else?!

      And the rest of us that aren’t……….you’re putting US in danger. How about researching the virus transfers of recently vaccinated people in the OTHER DIRECTION?

      Please quarantine yourself next time you get a vaccine: this way you’ll show respect for those that don’t choose another way. Thank you.

      February 5th, 2012 6:23 am Reply
      • Helen T.

        I mean: respect for those who choose another way. And….a big thanks for your understanding.

        February 5th, 2012 6:25 am Reply
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  • Lauren

    This article must be balanced with other FACTUAL information. Most of your comments are strictly opinion and have no clinical basis or citation. Such as the fact that the introduction of a pneumococcal vaccine for infants and children that was introduced in 2000 has led to a 96.6% reduction rate of invasive pneumococcal disease in children (Hicks LA, et al. J Infect Dis. 2007;196:1346-1354). Our children are not being vaccinated simply to be vaccinated. Vaccines are crucial for the sustained fight against LIFE-THREATENING diseases like measles and others. My 2-year old son has been vaccinated and is an extremely health and intelligent little boy. I am expecting my second son this summer and he too, will be vaccinated. You are entitled to your opinions, but don’t try to undermine educated parents like myself and our decisions.

    April 22nd, 2011 9:23 am Reply
  • Eustace

    Lauren, you need to wake up. I haven’t received one vaccination but I’ve lived a healthy lifestyle and have never gotten any real illness and barely a sniffle. All without these big pharama poisons. Your argument is invalid.

    April 22nd, 2011 9:32 am Reply
    • Sally

      Eustace, you haven’t gotten sick because EVERYONE ELSE is being vaccinated. Thanks to you and all the other sheep believing this moron, you will now have the increased risk of contracting a deadly disease. Good luck with that!

      April 22nd, 2011 9:35 am Reply
      • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

        Sally, I’ve written another post which details and shows charts that indicate that these epidemics were on their way out LONG BEFORE vaccines came on the scene. Better hygiene, running water, better distribution of food (fruits and veggies), the car (no more horses pooping in the streets) are the reasons why. NOT some toxic brew injected into the arms of millions of lemmings.

        April 22nd, 2011 9:43 am Reply
        • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

          Oh, and i LOVE being called a Moron. Thanks for that! :) Name calling is the tactic folks use when they know they’ve lost an argument. Guess who loses? YOU!

          April 22nd, 2011 9:45 am Reply
          • Sally

            Actually, I win. Having read your article, I have come to the zen position of no longer being angry at people who don’t vaccinate their children. This will be the Darwinian weeding out of the lesser members of our species. Having been fully vaccinated myself, and clearly having fully vaccinated my children, my lineage will go on to prosper. I now thank you for your article and hope you continue to write delightfully hilarious articles that will enforce the rise of a more intelligent, vaccinated human race!

            April 22nd, 2011 10:00 am
          • Grace

            Um, really Sarah? Because in a comment above, “Maureen you are CLUELESS. Your adult children got what, 3 vaccines? The kids now get upwards of 60 last I checked. WAKE UP! Your ignorance and closed mindedness is embarrassing you.”, you certainly didn’t hold back.

            And what about the time you told a woman not to have children until she agreed with you? Yes, that was an excellent line of argument.

            But at least we finally agree on something. You know you’ve lost this argument. I don’t even think you believe the things you say yourself. But you sure like the ad revenue you get from clicks and hits on your site whenever you post about this topic.

            June 15th, 2011 2:23 am
          • Sarah, TheHealthyHomeEconomist

            Grace I am very intrigued why you are hop scotching around every single one of my anti vax posts and leaving these ridiculous comments. Why are you even bothering to read them when you are clearly not in the slightest interested in the information they contain? I never told a woman not to have children until she agreed with me?? I have no idea what you are even talking about!

            Oh and I just refreshed myself on this info .. children get 68 vaccines by age 12 and the CDC vaccination schedule recommends 141 for adults! Can you in good conscience really support this insane overmedication of the population? What number will cause you concern? 100, 250, 500? Where will you draw the line or will you just keep accepting these new shots like a good little sheeple?

            June 15th, 2011 8:12 am
          • Grace

            Sarah, it’s hardly intriguing. I have read each one of your posts on this topic and others (not just anti-vax) and am continually stunned by what you write. You are such a hypocrite that it is amazing.

            #1: You quote studies that are founded by anti-vaccine camps as if they are gospel from God himself and yet you discount every. single. study put forth by other groups that don’t bring the results you want. Bias can work both ways and the sad part is that you fail to recognize your own.

            #2: You continually yell and scream at the “big pharma” companies for trying to make a profit. Well, NO one I know is in the business of helping people be more healthy for free. Chiropractors, DOs, naturopaths, massage therapists, nurse midwives, etc., all charge for their services. So do pediatricians and pharmaceutical companies. You yourself make money from this blog and say that you “see nothing wrong with that.” Well, guess what, I agree with you on this point. There IS nothing wrong in having a service to offer and profiting from it, but it is the height of hypocrisy to say that it is wrong for pharmaceutical companies to profit from producing medications and yet make money for the BlogHer hits you get from people reading that article.

            #3: You always say how negative pro-vax people are and how they call names and are mean. Well. . . Sarah, I have seen you belittle people right and left. You call them names/condescending terms when they disagree with you (“Sheeple”/moron are just two examples), completely dismiss any good points that the opposition might make (and surely, there must be a few good points to be made in there somewhere – just as anit-vax people do make good points, too), and you make broad, sweeping generalizations (pediatrics is a waste of time as a subspecialty – really? There aren’t any good pediatricians or reasons to see someone who specializes in children’s medicine. Have you ever met a child with a pediatric form of cancer? Those children need specialized treatment and their parents would probably be very surprised by your opinion.), yet you are derisive and quick to point out when anyone else (but you) does the same.

            I “hop around to all of these posts” because I wanted to see what your “over-all” tone was. And what I left with was a bad taste in my mouth. I could even understand your bitterness and contempt if one of your children had been injured by a vaccine, but what I find instead is that it just seems to be in your nature to look down on people that don’t “agree” with you. I read your bio and it is just such a shame that your talents are being put to better use.

            Oh, and for the record, I actually came to this site because I had some concerns about continuing to vaccinate my daughter since a bad site reaction at her 6 month visit. A friend recommended your site, so that’s how I ended up there. I still have concerns about vaccinations, but the way that you shame people, provide incorrect data, lie to your readers, and fail to produce one single credible source for all of your claims, has me looking elsewhere for answers. If you are truly trying to educate people, do that. Don’t make them feel bad or “stupid” or wrong or a “sheeple”. If you truly believe people are being misled, then try compassion, not being condescending. Create a safe place to come for information and not for judgment. Anytime someone tells me that they have the “only” truth, I immediately become suspicious, because truth isn’t like that. It tends to lie somewhere in the gray, somewhere in between the “two sides.” There are good and bad parts to modern medicine, good and bad parts to alternative medicine – both have their place and just need to be used responsibly. Healthy living is obviously far more about what goes on outside the doctor’s office than in. There are bad doctors out there, who are motivated only by profit and would put that above the needs of their patients, but there are many wonderful MDs who are quite the opposite and care very much about the well-being of your family and children (and some of them just happen to be pediatricians). But dismissing them would be like me saying that all anti-vaccine people are quacks, nuts, off-their-rockers, etc. I don’t believe that. I believe most are just parents trying their very best to do the very best for their families – especially their kids. That’s what I came here hoping to find, and left, very disappointed.

            I won’t be back, because this is your page and of course, you have the freedom to post what you would like. And I have the freedom not to read it and find the information I am seeking elsewhere. I just hope that some of my responses to other comments make people think a little about what they have read here.

            June 15th, 2011 6:45 pm
          • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

            Hope you feel better now Grace. You say you won’t be back, but I seem to keep seeing comments from you? What’s that all about? Something about the info is just too irresistable I guess. The truth does tend to do that to people.

            And for the record, I never called anyone a moron. I’ve been called a moron plenty though. :)

            June 15th, 2011 8:54 pm
    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

      If you are no longer angry, why are you calling people morons?

      April 22nd, 2011 10:02 am Reply
      • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

        Oh, and I assume you are ignoring some of the more recent research (on the Swine Flu vaccine) that is potentially rendering people infertile? I guess that will help a lot in the preservation of your lineage.

        April 22nd, 2011 10:03 am Reply
        • LAUREN

          Grace- I think it’s strange that you are quick to jump on Sarah for being aggresive, when you have been nothing short of aggressive yourself? Is it WRONG- or is it a bloggers prerogative?? I think I personally would be hesitant to be as firm as Sarah —but after so many angry, defensive and slanderous posts on MY blog– i think the tone in my voice would change :o)

          Knowing how passionate people are from “both sides”, I think it would be prudent to quit pointing fingers and be willing to do more research than you’ve ever done. It took me 2 years of intense research to be confident in what we were going to do for our family.

          January 14th, 2012 4:51 am Reply
  • Voice of Reason

    “Ms. Healthy Home Economist, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”

    April 22nd, 2011 9:45 am Reply
    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

      And I assume that your comments are so brilliant that you’re not even confident enough to put your name by your comment? Anonymous insulting is of no value and bringing God into this argument is even lamer still. Pathetic.

      April 22nd, 2011 10:01 am Reply
      • Mike Pangrace

        That was a quote from a movie. But movies are probably some sort of conspiracy devised by the American Film Institute, right?

        Look, here are the facts, which I can actually cite to a valid source (as opposed to your moronic “vaccinated children always seem sicker to me” argument):

        Morbidity from smallpox has decreased 100% since the introduction of the vaccine
        Morbidity from diphtheria has decreased 100% since the introduction of the vaccine
        Morbidity from poliomyelitis has decreased 100% since the introduction of the vaccine
        Morbidity from measles has decreased 100% since the introduction of the vaccine
        Rubella, mumps, tetanus, and pertussis all have reductions in the 95%-99% range…all since their respective vaccines were introduced. (CDC. MMWR. 1999;48:243-247.)

        And there are literally hundreds of other sources citing similar data. Give me one study–other than the one that was revealed to be falsified by ignorant whackos who share your point of view–that supports your point. Just one, from peer-reviewed literature please. (FYI: “The Healthy Home Economist” who knows a couple doctors doesn’t count.) Can you do it?

        April 22nd, 2011 10:41 am Reply
    • JustMe

      Billy Madison…classy. You comment completely discredits anything remotely intelligent that you had to say

      April 23rd, 2011 8:16 pm Reply
    • Suzy

      grace I tip my hat off to you.

      July 2nd, 2011 10:06 pm Reply
      • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

        Her name is not really “Grace”. This same person is hopping around to anti-vax blogs and posting the same silliness.

        July 3rd, 2011 8:46 am Reply
    • Helen T.

      Normal people don’t post like you. Surely you’re a ‘Pharma’ guy. Upgrade your posting style if you want to be effective. Sheez……..

      February 5th, 2012 6:28 am Reply
      • Helen T.

        I’m refering to Voice of Reason’s comments……..the moniker didn’t fool any of us…..

        February 5th, 2012 6:31 am Reply
  • mo garcia

    I just want to add to your list of medical mishaps or common practices that modern medicine without any scientific support that have been done in my lifetime only to be proven wrong in the final analysis.

    Routine Repeat Caesarean Sections – based on one doctor’s opinion in 1916.
    Routine manual probes of the uterus after delivery in a woman who has a previous caesarean section.
    Routine ultrasound scans prenatally.
    Routine X-ray pelvimetry on all pregnant women and their babies.
    Routine administration of DES as a vitamin to all pregnant women to prevent miscarriage
    Routine administration of DES to girls who are at risk of being too tall.
    Routine administration of DES as a postcoital birth control pill
    Routine use of DES as a cattle fattening agent
    Routine Radium boxes on thymus glands.
    Removal of thymus glands during heart surgery
    Removal of the thyroid gland because of cancer caused by the radium box in childhood.
    Routine episiotomies
    Routine enemas to laboring women upon admission to L&D.
    Routine IVs
    Routine silver nitrate drops to all new mothers.
    Routine tonsillectomies
    Routine antibiotics for all infections.
    Routine vitamin K shots or drops.
    Routine circumcision for all male babies
    Routine shaving of the pubic hair for all women admitted to L&D
    Routine ear tubes for chronic earaches
    Routine separation of family members at crucial points in illness and life.
    Routine use of pitocin for the management of third stage of labor.
    Routine use of ADHD medication to children who are bored in class.
    Routine early cutting of the umbilical cord
    Routine manual removal of the placenta.
    Routine amniotonomy.

    All of these routine procedures are/were carried out without any scientific studies to support them, just the convenience of the staff and the medical personnel.

    April 24th, 2011 3:20 pm Reply
  • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

    Wow! Thank you for this eye opening list! My mother was pressured to have xrays of her pelvis when pregnant in the 50’s and 60’s and always refused knowing that commonsense-wise, what a foolish thing it would be to expose the baby to that radiation while in utero. Of course, this was proven correct and the foolishness of vaccines will also will one day be recognized by the majority as complete idiocy, but for now, only the out of the box thinkers are able to grasp this.

    April 24th, 2011 6:57 pm Reply
    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

      Let me add another one to that list .. routine HRT for menopausal women which was touted for over 40 years to reduce heart disease risk and cancer risk but now has overwhelmingly been proven to INCREASE a woman’s chances of both heart disease and cancer.

      April 25th, 2011 11:40 am Reply
  • Kelli

    Well, this is an old post, but I’d still like to make a quick comment.
    First, that is amazing list, mo garcia! It shows once again that so-called “modern” medicine is really just a profiteering racket designed to keep people ill. Almost all those useless procedures lead to further problems alter on.
    Most diseases we see today are man-made thanks to enviromental toxins, chronic stress, and nutritional deficiencies. But in conventional medicine’s ignorance they only ever look at germs and genes. Vaccines are actually part of a much larger problem that refuses to aknowledge the underlying cause. Thats why vaccines aren’t the only way to prevent viruses. It proves just how much “modern” medicine is a hoax. Why are kids getting cancers, autoimmune disease, and viruses so frequently? Horrible diets, of course. And their completely overloaded with toxins such as pesticides, phlates (found in plastic), flouride, and the myriad of crap most parents use to clean their house. The EWG even said that pesticides are one of the worst cancer-causing chemicals ever. Even in countries with good regulation (such as most European countries) people aren’t entirely protected from these toxins.

    April 25th, 2011 9:28 am Reply
  • J. P.

    Wow, you’re all putting the population at risk by not vaccinating your children. Autism and vaccination correlations were false the doctor who first published the paper that started it all was found to have several conflicts of interest the paper was removed and he basically lost his ability to practice and his research was declared fraudulent. Look at infant mortality rates before and after the major vaccinations were made mandatory. Even look at the flu vaccine for swine flu that came out last year. The outbreak could have been much worse. I loath people who are quick to shun modern medical treatments and science based on fringe opinions. Yeah sometimes doctors and pharmacists make mistakes but I’d still put my life in the hands of the people who have dedicated their lives to researching whats best for us and who have large agencies regulating them so they can identify mistakes quickly and try to fix them before I refuse treatment based on the opinion of some reporter who read an article about some erin brockovich type who uncovered a vast conspiracy and decided to scare a million people by casting pharmaceutical companies as evil corporations out to destroy humanity.

    April 25th, 2011 5:06 pm Reply
    • Vi

      I had never heard of anyone not vaccinating their children until I found out my friend wasn’t 3 years ago. I agree with you 100% that people are putting others at risk by not vaccinating their children. The sad part is it will be the children that will suffer if they were to get a disease like polio(which is unheard of now, but not completely gone)!

      April 25th, 2011 11:02 pm Reply
  • Vi

    I have 2 kids and both of them are fully vaccinated. They are healthy, very happy, and very very smart kids! I have a friend who has 2 kids as well who are not vaccinated. Her kids are constantly sick(one who had an ear infection so bad the ear was bleeding)! All of my family members kids’ are vaccinated and are rarely sick. And no one has austism! I am very happy with my decision to vaccinate my kids. It is my job to protect them, and that includes illnesses. Everyone is going to have opinions about vaccinations, but until I see 100% proof that a vaccination is the cause of autism, cancer or whatever other aliment, I won’t give a second thought about vaccinating my kids. And when I say proof I mean proof. Not linked.

    April 25th, 2011 10:45 pm Reply
    • Vi

      Oh, and let me add that my youngest was 2 months premature and he’s had only been sick twice in 2 years!

      April 25th, 2011 10:57 pm Reply
  • Sarah Bailey

    Thank you so much for this fantastic article. Is there any research/anecdotal evidence about whether vaccinations in adulthood also cause allergy, ADHD etc. ADHD for example manifests at a particular age, what if you vaccinate after that developmental stage?

    April 26th, 2011 5:38 am Reply
    • Jean


      My grandmother never had chicken pox.

      My mother never got chicken pox.

      I was exposed to chicken pox as a child more than 5 times (as in my mom placing me strategically in a room so that I would get them over with with the other kids from school) and never got chicken pox.

      at 18 years old, 2 weeks before my high school graduation, my doctor pushes the chicken pox vaccine and I agree.

      Guess who graduated with chicken pox and 102 degree temperature?

      Also, since then I have had bouts of shingles.

      I consider myself lucky, and am very grateful for my wellbeing because I have seen the videos and know that things could have been a lot worse.

      I am not a parent but I would not vaccinate my children. This is based on experiential evidence (not just the story above but a couple more very direct incidences of vax reactions), which seems to be the best evidence for me and my life in most cases.

      But I do not judge others for the choices they make. And I think that it really depends on a lot of factors, including health history of parents/lineage.

      April 1st, 2012 5:56 pm Reply
  • Please stop attacking eachother

    I like this article and read all the comments. There are a lot of good points. But Sarah, the way you treat people whose opinion is different than yours is very unprofessional. If it is true that vaccines cause harm, then there is no reason for you to be nasty toward others. Present more evidence: real, hard evidence. Then let the intelligent people who read your material decide for themselves. After all, isn’t that what this article is supposed to be about?

    April 26th, 2011 8:57 am Reply
    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

      Sorry, but I don’t take being called a moron lightly. Some of the comments are quite nasty and require a very strong, “in your face” type of response. Such is my personality and I do not apologize for it.

      April 26th, 2011 1:07 pm Reply
  • renata rodrigues

    I just want remember the thalidomide’s tragedy…and i will leave Sylvia Plath’s poetry to you think about it.
    My little girl has 1 month and i don’t want to give that poison to her,but her father(my husband) desagree…so i know how it can be hard.


    “O half moon—

    Half-brain, luminosity—
    Negro, masked like a white,

    Your dark
    Amputations crawl and appall—

    Spidery, unsafe.
    What glove

    What leatheriness
    Has protected

    Me from that shadow—
    The indelible buds.

    Knuckles at shoulder-blades, the
    Faces that

    Shove into being, dragging
    The lopped

    Blood-caul of absences.
    All night I carpenter

    A space for the thing I am given,
    A love

    Of two wet eyes and a screech.
    White spit

    Of indifference!
    The dark fruits revolve and fall.

    The glass cracks across,
    The image

    Flees and aborts like dropped mercury.”

    April 27th, 2011 2:43 pm Reply
  • haileesmom

    Just one comment i want to say bout this. the part where she makes a mention about kids getting vaccines being alot less healthier than those not vaccinated. how they are very ill children or however she worded it. well i dont think this is true in all cases. my sister and i were vaccinated right on schedule and we are very healthy. very rarely get the flu and when we get a cold its gone within days. never been hospitalized except when i had my daughter. then i have a friend who does not vaccinate her kids and they are sick all the time with the flu or colds. i personally will not get the flu or h1n1 shot. even though it was pushed on me when i was pregnant.

    May 1st, 2011 11:45 pm Reply
  • Unsure

    I’m not seeing much middle ground here. I’m seeing a lot of harsh words and judgment on both sides.

    My two oldest children were fully vaccinated. My youngest two were not because our beliefs evolved and we became more educated about vaccines. We eat healthy (home cooked, organic, well balanced, a lot of home grown, raw, etc etc) and are active. I haven’t really noticed any significant health differences in my kids.

    Imagine my guilt when my next to youngest child developed a strain of strep pneumonia that spread so fast and so quickly that she became septic and had other organs shut down. I know there are over 90 strains of strep pneumonia and not all are vaccinated against; yes, this was a strain that may have been prevented by a vaccine.

    I know whether to vaccinate or not is not a risk versus no risk choice. Given our beliefs but also having been faced with almost losing our child, we aren’t sure what to do. I don’t know if we will choose to selectively vaccinate now or not, and I’m not rushing to decide (I completely agree that vaccinating can be done at anytime, but it can’t be undone), but it’s a decision my family is now faced with again. It’s not as simple as vaccinating=good or vaccinating=bad.

    I know plenty of people personally who vaccinated their children and noticed reactions or regret their decision. Because I’m of the minority in my area regarding not vaccinating, I don’t know anyone else who has not vaccinated and also been faced with a life-threatening vaccine-preventable illness, but I know from first hand experience it is possible. It’s a heavy weight to carry. Has anyone else here been faced with a similar situation?

    May 5th, 2011 5:36 pm Reply
    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

      Not vaccinating is not a guarantee of not getting illness. Neither is getting vaccinated a guarantee of no illness. Your daughter had a better chance to survive the strep by not being vaccinated than by being vaccinated. You have no reason to feel guilty. There are no guarantees in life but you have a much better shot at a healthy life with no shots poisoning your system and depressing your immune system. That being said my 3 kids all had pertussis – my daughter was only 15 months at the time. I don’t regret my decision not to vaccinate and would skip the shots again if given the choice.

      May 5th, 2011 6:19 pm Reply
  • Jamie

    Hi there. I have a beautiful, nearly 5-month old daughter and vaccinations have always been a concern of mine. I am in the military community and am surrounded by many folks who just do what they’re told. So, when I declined newborn eye ointment, Hep-B vacc and Vit K shot at birth, I was looked down upon and made to feel like a terrible, uncaring mother. For some reason which I cannot explain, I have gone ahead and subjected my daughter to two rounds of “mandatory” vaccinations. My question to you is this: can I just stop having her vaccinated at this point? It seems such a silly question because I know it’s my child, my choice, but I feel like I’ll be scoffed and scolded, especially by military docs. Any advice would be much much appreciated as I’m clearly bothered by the subject. Thanks in advance! ~Jamie

    May 24th, 2011 1:15 pm Reply
    • Coral

      We are military as well. My son was vaccinated up to six months and then we just stopped, my daughter was never vaccinated. We have just told the doctors we don’t believe the benefits out weigh the risks and have never had a problem. We have been overseas for almost 10 years and haven’t had an issue with it. Hope this helps.

      November 15th, 2011 1:03 am Reply
  • Aileen-CA

    So you DO NOT recommend any vaccines at all? My baby is 2 months old and I’m still devating on what vaccines I should and should not give him. He has only been given one vaccine since he was born (Hepatitis B). What would happen if he is exposed to other children, what about chicken pox? ect…

    ~HHE Follower~

    May 24th, 2011 7:48 pm Reply
    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

      Hi Aileen, that’s correct. None of my 3 children have ever had a shot. If my kids got chicken pox, I would be fine with that. I had it at 2 years old and I survived just fine. My kids have also all had pertussis. No big deal. Folks trying to avoid illness with all these gazillion shots (26 by age one! Is that not INSANE?) just results in chronic illness. Replace one demon with another. Brief acute illness that strengthens the body and develops natural immunity is infinitely preferable to chronic illness for one’s entire life as a result of being injected with toxins and poisons from vaccines (and then still possibly getting the acute illness anyway as vaccines work for only a few years!).

      May 24th, 2011 8:22 pm Reply
  • Erica

    Hello. My son is now 10 yrs. old. He is partially vaccinated. His last shot was when he was about 2 1/2 yrs. old. I started researching pros and cons about vaccinations keeping an open mind and decided to no longer vaccinate my child for a lot of reasons and the fact that the doctor kept on telling me to give my baby Tylenol afterwards which I don’t agree with. It really woke me up when I got a letter asking me if I would like my child to try the new vaccination for chicken pox that just came out. Chicken pox…I had chicken pox when I was a child and I dealt with it just fine and about a year later my son got chicken pox and turned out just fine. I was just thinking that our immune system needs to be able to fight something on its own in order to make it stronger. I had no problems with our family doctor or with the public school that he attends. I just needed to fill out a form and mail it in to the health department. Now my only concern is the tetanus shot? I don’t know enough information about it or if it’s really necessary.

    May 26th, 2011 2:26 pm Reply

    I stopped vaccinating my children when they were four and five years old. My youngest daughte,r now 29, is very pro-vaccine. Her feeling is that if you don’t vaccinate you are depending on others to do so to protect your child.

    June 6th, 2011 9:28 pm Reply
    • KARI

      I think for the majority of us, it has nothing to do with relying on the vaccinated community to protect us and our children from getting these diseases. Rather, we feel the risk of getting the disease is a far better risk to take than the risk of lifelong chronic illness, or, worse, the chance that our children will be one of the ones who suffer severe vaccine injury. As a non-vaxxing parent, I fully understand that my children are potentially at risk for contracting any one of these diseases (as, apparently, are any other children, vaxxed or non-vaxxed), and I am willing to accept responsibility for that. It’s the lesser of two evils for our family. Every family has to make this choice–which risk is the lesser of two evils for them? And the answer may or may not be the same for you as it is for me. And I’m okay with that; I just wish YOU would be okay with that, too.

      February 25th, 2013 10:46 pm Reply
  • Angela

    How long does artificial immunity really last? I received all the scheduled MMR shots as a child. In my mid-twenties, as part of routine pregnancy blood work, it was discovered that I was NOT immune to these illnesses. Not immune to measles, mumps, or rubella in early adulthood after having had all my shots!

    It was recommended that I get a booster shot after my baby was born since contracting one of these during a subsequent pregnancy would be disastrous for the unborn child. I consented to have the MMR booster. Eighteen months later, newly pregnant, another round of routine blood work… STILL NOT IMMUNE.

    June 13th, 2011 7:58 pm Reply
    • Sarah, TheHealthyHomeEconomist

      There is no way to tell as everyone is probably different. Dr. Blaylock MD is suggesting only about 2 years. I would assume that it doesn’t last long if at all for you since you are getting titered with no immunity showing up.

      June 13th, 2011 8:21 pm Reply
    • estremadura

      Oh my God!!! It sounds like they are lying as far as immunity is concerned! If you are not immune, vaccines are nothing else but saline suspensions!!!!
      I had measles, mumps, rubella, chicken pox under age 6!
      Ever since , I haven’t been ill with anything, other than a few minor colds in really cold winters. Life long immunity can only be achieved contracting the desease. I had a titer test in 2004 and I was immune to everything, several times over the limit!!!!
      I am becoming more and more convinced that people who do not go for any sort of check ups, if they are otherwise healthy and doing good,in the medium and long run will enjoy better health! Because they definitely won’t be on all sorts of meds, and their bloodstream will be free from toxins.
      Medical science had it’s golden age in XIX. century early XX> century, understanding about hygene /what is not strictly medical/ was crucial in having longer lifespan! Surgeries, anesteziology, pain killing, antibiotics are good, no doubt… but everything with MODERATION! Now pain killers are becoming Killers, surgeries are done for many unnecessary purposes, we abuse antibiotics, and abuse vaccines…. so such as so many other great initiatives, a principle what used to be beneficial and productive is turning into it’s own opposite! Nowdays western allopatic medicene is close to 50-50, it does not do more good than harm….. but costs hell a lot of money for the whole society to run the business!!!

      February 3rd, 2013 8:00 pm Reply
  • Angela

    This was just one reason (of many) why my three children have never been vaccinated. Thanks for the post, Sarah! I’m enjoying you’re blog; keep up the good work.

    June 13th, 2011 10:18 pm Reply
  • Beth

    I vaccinated my children…so sue me. I researched, read articles and studies, talked to many, many doctors, friends, family, and spent hours honestly weighing the options. And I still decided to do the full course of vaccinations. The only shot my 3 children don’t get is the flu shot. My kids are all very healthy. I get compliments on their health from doctors and dentists. We get colds (sniffles) that last 1-2 days. We had one round of the stomach flu last year. Between the three of them, they’ve had 2 ear infections (my oldest and my youngest). That’s it. No asthma, no chronic illnesses.

    My kids attend three different schools (one for daycare, one for preschool, one for Kindergarten). In each pool of children, I find the little one in the corner looking sickly 4 out of 5 days of the week is usually the unvaccinated one. The majority if kids I see are vaccinated and healthy!

    In my daughter’s daycare, one little girl whose mother proudly declared to be unvaccinated, was asked to leave the daycare for a month after coming in with one illness after another for months on end.

    Personal experiences change for each person. That’s why they are personal. I find your articles overall demeaning to anyone who doesn’t agree with you. I think a lot of parents might be more open to research and your “facts” if they felt they had the right to disagree with you.

    I did my research and I still disagree. So what does that make me? Stupid? Gullible? I read the wrong articles? I talked to the wrong people? Or just a flat-out bad parent?

    June 14th, 2011 5:02 pm Reply
    • Erica

      I did my research as well when making the decision not to continue vaccinating my son. I kept a very open mind. My son doesn’t become sick the way I see other children do (I don’t know if the other children are vaccinated or not) and he doesn’t miss school. He’s very healthy as well. However there are many different factors to keeping a healthy child, whether your child is vaccinated or not, there is also nutrition, their environment, and so forth. I don’t think its right to judge that oh this child is sick cause he’s not vaccinated or this child is sick cause he is vaccinated. It’s an individual choice. To each their own. To me in this day and age I don’t feel that it is necessary for my child to be injected with the vaccines.

      October 20th, 2011 7:41 am Reply
    • Shayla

      I have mixed feelings, and even though I have an opinion, my comment is very neutral! (read the whole thing to understand what I mean) – Sorry I don’t have any of my sources at the time, but please be understanding.

      I “want” to be “for” them… I work with young children everyday and have access to their medical information. I know there are MANY other facotrs to a child’s (or any person’s) health, but from my studies, the unvaccinated children ARE always much sicker than the vaccinated kids. We (or should I say “I”) keep track, and my personal records are that 73% of the time, the unvaccinated chilren (in my daycare) are more likely to get sick! That’s a HUGE number! I’m not sure (so don’t quote me on this) but I guess it’s because their little, and fragile bodies are too busy becoming naturally immune (sick) to the diseases. (Btw, parents at my daycare signed consent form so that I could do this study through out the past 2 years for my Senior Project in high school). Yet, even dispite these “staggering” statistics, I am still against them….

      My wonderfully-amazing boyfriend, just so happens to be Deaf (not that it is a bad thing, like most hearing people think – he is very proud of his Deafness, the Deaf culture, his language, the amazing community he is apart of, and so fourth)… but he became Deaf through a vaccination as a child at 18 months old (which got me thinking more about the immediate side effects of vaccines – and lead me to my research)… If that doesn’t get you thinking, read on… my sister lost her son (my first and only nephew) at just 4 months old to the pertusis vaccine (DTaP) almost 2 years ago. This was the most devastating thing my sister and our family has ever expirenced and I don’t think anyone else should ever have to feel that way (RIP Baby Ryan – Forever in our hearts).

      So while your kid might get sick a little more, are the risks of vaccines worth it?… Especially when you know it is still not 100% effective? Then again, these two random incidents that I just mentioned seem a little too coincidental to both be in my life… most people don’t ever encounter these happenings. I do know that it is a true fact that since the vaccines have been put out, many devastating diseases have slowed significantly or even stopped significantly, and someone else commented earlier, it probably IS the fact that everyone around the unvaccinated peaople are vaccinated, which keeps them from getting sick too. And unless everyone gives in, who is entitled to be the “special one” who just stays healthy because everyone else around them took the risk and they didn’t (even though my senior project statistics don’t prove that). How do we choose?

      While I could go on all day about the bennefits and risks of both options, I think everyone is entitled to their opinion and it is a VERY personal choice, there is no “right” or “wrong” decision in my book. Parents make TONS of tough decisions for their children, which could go in either direction. We all just want what’s best, no one is perfect and no one is God. However personally I will not be vaccinating my children (when I have them one day) because of my personal expirences (which to you is just a story, but for me is real life). Maybe one day I will change my decision, maybe science will advance by the time I have children and there will be more, and better information out there. Maybe there will be more options than just yes or no. But as for now I stand firm on my decision. We all must pray for our children!

      Good luck to all of you out there struggling with this tough decision!

      March 29th, 2012 11:36 pm Reply
  • Angela

    @Beth — No non-vaxer is trying to pass laws that make vaccinations illegal. You’ve made your choice and we can live with that. The problem is that so many pro-vaxers DO want to make it illegal not to vax. Parents are the final authority on this decision, not government. Period.

    I find it highly doubtful that you actually know the vaccination status of every child in your childrens’ classes. And if your kids’ health is robust, you needn’t worry about the “little one in the corner looking sickly.” No one has suggested that every child who is vaccinated is made ill from them. Some kids do seem to handle the onslaught well. Some suffer anything from mild fever to vaccine-induced encephalopathy to death. It’s just a gamble, and not one that every parent is willing to take.

    June 15th, 2011 8:42 am Reply
  • Beth

    Angela, I find what you said to be a very reasonable approach to vaccinations. It IS a a decion that should be left to the parents, end of story. I take issue with articles that come across as so one sided, as if there is only one choice. I did my research. In fact, I would bet I did more than some of the parents who choose not to vaccinate because they’ve “heard” bad things.

    As for knowing the status of each child in the school, I do have a bit of an in (I work in the school district and have registered many of them myself). By pointing that out, I was only trying to say that there are two sides to the healthy kids coin.

    My true feeling is that some kids can’t handle vaccinations. Something about their genetic makeup leaves them too vulnerable. And in a perfect world, the medical world would be working on researching that and customizing out healthcare based on our bodies and our needs. But this is the best we have right now and I felt that with our family histories (no major illness, no history of asthma, long lives, etc.) the risk to my kids was minimal. How many people actually research their family history before having a child? Not many that I know of. But what do you think influences your babies chances of haveing a healthy start more than that?

    I think the issue isn’t the big, bad medical corporations or the doctors. I think it comes down to uninformed parents. I also think that articles like this lead many people in the wrong direction. Instead of blindly listening to their doctor, now they are blindly listening to a different group. If I could reach out to every parent, I would urge them to question everything, but to also make decisons on their own. It’s YOUR child, it’s YOUR responsibility.

    June 15th, 2011 9:58 am Reply
  • Linda

    I have been reading your blog and am GREATLY appreciating it!!

    I have a 11 year old daughter who has not had chicken pox yet. (I also have three younger daughters 9, 5, and 3.) It concerns me that they have not had this yet. My older boys both had chicken pox, but my girls can’t seem to “find it.” … Any ideas? Should I even be concerned?

    (Hope you don’t mind my commenting on an old post.)

    June 24th, 2011 12:28 am Reply
    • Sarah, TheHealthyHomeEconomist

      Hi Linda, my kids haven’t had chicken pox yet either and I wish they would get it. I wouldn’t be concerned though. If they are not immunized, they will catch what they need to catch to keep their immunity strong. Nature has a way of dealing with these things so if they are healthy and eating good quality nutrient dense foods, they should be fine. There is little need to worry. There is always homeopathic nosodes for pretty much all infectious diseases you can name which you can use in an emergency.

      June 24th, 2011 8:18 am Reply
  • Linda

    Thank you Sarah for responding. I’m sure your right. I have heard of things called tee shirt swaps etc… but I have a hard time knowingly exposing them in this way. Something about this just doesn’t seem right.

    Yes we are eating as best as our budget can afford. We have a good place to purchase all of our meats, a large garden, top quality raw cows milk, kefir….there is more, but I spare you “the list.” 😉 At any rate I appreciate your opinion on the subject.

    Thank you for the time you put into your blog helping others.

    June 24th, 2011 10:28 pm Reply
  • Suzy

    meh, we all are going to die at some point. I’d like to not die from something I could have prevented. I mean, sure we have an immune system, but we weren’t born super humans! I’m not a Misophobic in anyway, but I would like to safeguard my kids from eminent danger.
    I mean, what are you going to say to someone that had polio as a child? Oh, yeah I decided I would risk my health so I could be like you! Aren’t you glad? Yeah, they aren’t going to buy any of that b.s. (And yeah, I actually know someone who had polio as a kid, and I think he is all for vaccinations.)
    Oh yeah, thanks for calling me unhealthy for being vaccinated. I don’t know what your idea of good health is, but I think it’s when your body functions properly. And currently, my body is doing quite well.

    July 2nd, 2011 9:53 pm Reply
    • Sarah, TheHealthyHomeEconomist

      Think of how well you’d be doing if you weren’t vaxed? Feeling well is all a matter of perspective. I know plenty of folks who think they feel just fine eating junk all day long but when they stopped they couldn’t believe how much better they felt.

      July 2nd, 2011 11:48 pm Reply
      • mark

        but you can’t make that comment, you have one bit of information to handle that she gave you and that is that her body is fine and that’s all you can assume, if she had an allergic reaction to the vaccine she would know about it.

        December 28th, 2013 9:37 am Reply
  • Summer

    I have a kid damaged from both the MMR and the Dtap vaccines, and I am just now recovering 8 years after a tetanus vaccine injury that left me mentally, physically and emotionally drained… I don’t think that it is worth it to bypass nature’s immune system… I don’t believe in vaccinating any longer and all of my kids now have medical exemptions, but my daughter with the damage will deal with it for a lifetime, and my other children have suffered emotionally, physically, financially and so many other ways because of it… they have all missed opportunities we could have afforded financially and time wise because of the time and money recovering our daughter has taken. Statistically, I don’t believe that it is worth risking TAKING a vaccine any longer IF you are eating right, getting exercise and supporting a healthy immune system.

    July 3rd, 2011 3:18 pm Reply
  • Jessica

    Did you ever stop to think for a minute that maybe, JUST MAYBE!!!, someone can research something just as much as you do (from both sides, even!) and come to a different conculsion than yours? And do you think it’s really necessary to call/imply that people who disagree with you are brainwashed/following blindly/stupid?

    July 13th, 2011 10:42 pm Reply
  • Nolie

    I actually do agree that vaccinations are up to each parent, and I am terriied of some of the ingredients in them.
    However, where you lose me is in the lack of facts. All you have to do is Google some of the stuff you’re saying to find it’s not all true. Japan has mandatory vaccinations beginning at 3 months. Here is their vaccination schedule:
    My sister in law is Japanese and when I asked her, she said it has never been like that.
    Also in the “other countries” part, I lived in Sweden when my child was born. I was afraid to vaccinate and when speaking to my child’s nurse, I was given statistics and Sweden, who is near the bottom of the infant mortality rate worldwide, is just over 99% vaccinated. 99% is a lot for a country with such a low infant mortality rate. They’re even ahead of Japan in infant mortality.
    I really wish an article like this could be written without stretching the truth or inaccurate information. It creates the ability to debunk the idea that vaccination isn’t a good idea. Now, obviously, I am a mother and have neither the time nor the desire to fact check your entire article, but the parts I found suspicious, were indeed wrong. I mean absolutely no offense, just pointing out that sometimes being over-zealous causes us to lose credibility. And it’s a real shame in this case.

    July 16th, 2011 8:22 pm Reply
  • Liz

    “If the vaccines above have had serious problems, the others probably do too as vaccine manufacturers follow the same basic formula when coming up with each new shot.”

    This is a huge logical fallacy. No matter what other research you have done, you cannot assume such a thing. What if I say some mothers have serious problems, are bad to their kids, thus other mothers are probably bad? All mothers (barring adoptive) are made following the same basic formula: sex. Doesn’t that mean, following your logic, that all mothers are bad? A few bad vaccines does not mean the whole system is bad.

    July 20th, 2011 10:36 am Reply
    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

      Since all vaccines are manufactured essentially the same way, it is a highly logical argument.

      July 20th, 2011 1:22 pm Reply
  • Scheleta Phillips

    Great website!!!! Thank you!!! I have a question, I have 6 children and my husband and I decided to not vaccinate any of our children any further, however my 13 yr old, 11 yr old, & 9 yr old have had ALL there shots…my 5 & 4 yr olds…have had a handful…and my 3 yr old…probably just his newborns vaccines…but I feel SO horribly guilty about especially my 3 older boys who have them all….are there ANY ways to detox the vaccines out of there bodies? My 13 yr old, is pretty healthy, my 11 yr old has Petit Mal seizures (which we are seeing a Holisitc Practitioner and he has decreased my sons seizures DRAMATICALLY just by chaning his diet and thru chiropracting….NOT medications.) and my 9 yr old is “borderline ADHD”…my 3 littles ones are healthy…thankfully. But I just wanted to know if there was ANY way to reverse the vaccines? Feeling like a HORRIBLE mama here…and disgusted at the deception!!!

    July 26th, 2011 11:30 pm Reply
  • Luvmykids

    My 2 cents- I used to be provax. Until my child was vaccine injured. I think some ppl here have misunderstood our anger towards the establishment to be directed at them. Have some understanding & common sense. What does a passionate caring loving protective mom get out of spreading their opinion? Nothing. Look at where the fighting stance of a particular group comes from. Ours? Not bc were getting rich promoting our views. Not fighting to protect our assets or lavish lifestyle. Not trying to keep job security. Not parroting the same ‘ol lines bc we cant break a political promise we made in past.
    The prob is ppl r not doing the research for themselves until they “HAVE TO” & in most cases its too late-damage is done. But we do whatever it takes to help our babies. We become warrior moms. And when we become enlightened w the truth we become furious! Never underestimate the power of a warrior mom. We WILL BE THE ONES TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE!
    Think about this: If someone said to u jump in that pool, its fine its only 5ft, u will not drown. So u take their word, jump in w/out concern but realize once youve jumped that its really 9ft & u r drowning & need to be rescued by a lifeguard. What will happen when u get out & dry off? What will u say to the person that said it was only 5ft? Wouldnt u have a few choice words for them, that is if u didnt knock them out first? Now imagine the person who didnt tell u the truth was someone u trusted, like say A DOCTOR!!” Now imagine this happens to your child?!?! The anger increases tenfold!
    All this blog & others like it r tryin to do is open some eyes that are closed bc they think they r supposed to be closed. Our msg’s r not mean, evil, idiotic or full of fear. They simply come from mother instinct, intuition& love. And one day it will prevail!

    If theres only 2 things a parent indicisive about vaccines has time to read, these are the two links to click on. Both quite lengthy but extremely eye opening. For the sake of your child, pls investigate before u vaccinate. -pkg inserts every parent SHOULD read. U read the ingredients on your child’s food pkg, why not what is injected in their blood. (but then again, those that blindly vaccinate their kids prob dont read whats in their food) -very revealing interview w a retired vaccine worker. This person shares alot of info, some of it shocking even to those already anti-vax.

    August 5th, 2011 11:24 pm Reply
  • Michael Acanfora (@BayonneChiro) (@BayonneChiro) (@BayonneChiro)

    Six Reasons To Say NO to Vaccination – The Healthy Home Economist

    August 14th, 2011 10:20 am Reply
  • Michael Acanfora (@BayonneChiro) (@BayonneChiro) (@BayonneChiro)

    Six Reasons To Say NO to Vaccination – The Healthy Home Economist

    August 14th, 2011 2:20 pm Reply
  • Michael Acanfora (@BayonneChiro) (@BayonneChiro) (@BayonneChiro)

    Six Reasons To Say NO to Vaccination – The Healthy Home Economist

    August 15th, 2011 12:20 am Reply
  • Amanda Sevold (@AmandaSevold)

    Six Reasons To Say NO to Vaccination – The Healthy Home Economist #vaccines #education #babies

    August 15th, 2011 9:22 pm Reply
  • CindyTimEric

    I read quite a bit on both sides of this. I look for “the catch”, the ” oh reallllllllly” parts of articles on both sides of this issue.

    First of all, this idea that vaccinated kids are the most sickly kids this writer knows…well we now have a whooping cough epidemic that didnt’ exist before people stopped getting immunized for that. Measles is now back and being caught and killing people…and take a look in wikipedia on what life was like before the polio vaccine. People don’t have a clue what they are talking about. Before vaccines the infant mortality rate was horrible. Look on Youtube at at the Penn and Teller show on vaccines. I think people have the right to go either path, and everyone should respect that decision, but we vaccinate in our household and am glad for it.

    August 15th, 2011 11:32 pm Reply
    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

      Please take a look at my post “Why Vaccines are Scientific Fraud”. Vaccines didn’t save us from polio or any other epidemic INCLUDING smallpox. A nonbiased objective analysis of graphs on the subject proves this point without a doubt. Check out the charts gleaned from government death records.

      August 16th, 2011 12:28 am Reply
      • Jimmy

        Yeah, wait until one of these un-vaccinated kids comes down with polio or hepatitis…
        At such young age…. no more need to be said.

        August 16th, 2011 3:35 pm Reply
        • Sarah, TheHealthyHomeEconomist

          Have you checked the graphs? Obviously not. Too in the box to take a peek out, are we?

          August 16th, 2011 3:42 pm Reply
        • Ariel

          Oh, dear… Can’t believe my siblings and I have made it for so long without dropping dead!

          January 14th, 2012 12:13 pm Reply
  • Joy Flury-Brown (@HealthyTidbits)

    BEFORE you vaccinate your baby… get BOTH sides of the story… THEN decide… It IS in your hands! ask me how!

    August 15th, 2011 11:50 pm Reply
  • Dr. John Foley (@FoleyChiro)

    6 reasons to say NO to vaccinations.

    August 15th, 2011 11:53 pm Reply
  • Dr. Lacey Raposo (@drlaceyraposo)

    Vaccinations are not legally allowed to be dumped in Landfills due to their toxicity, and yet people seem to think…

    August 16th, 2011 12:01 am Reply
  • Dustin Whitney (@docdustin)

    Six Reasons To Say NO to Vaccination – The Healthy Home Economist

    August 16th, 2011 12:18 am Reply
  • Dr Doug Fryday (@DrInsideout)

    Six Reasons To Say NO to Vaccination – The Healthy Home Economist

    August 16th, 2011 9:29 am Reply
  • anonymous

    I’ve been doing a lot of reading from various sources and I now do feel on the side of no vaccines and do not want to vaccinate my children any more. My first had all her vaccines up to age 18 months. My 2nd just had one. My problem is family pear pressure. Even my husband, is not on top of this topic. He is supportive but reluctant to do any reading so is undecided and would probably veer towards vaccinating but delaying. He asked me is there another country that has better vaccination schedules. Do you know of countries that have the least and most delayed vaccination schedule or evenly possibly non at all (wishful thinking!)? At least this way we could show to family members that not all governments are in agreement on this issue. I hope you can help! Many thanks.

    September 2nd, 2011 6:31 pm Reply
  • anonymous

    Just to add to my comment above. Another reason why my husband not keen not to vaccinate: he looks at himself and his own siblings and younger family members, they were all vaccinated and all are healthy and developed well. So in his mind he feels vaccines have not affected them badly.

    September 2nd, 2011 6:50 pm Reply
  • Peter

    Really? Ive not seen so many medical experts on one board ever. All vaccines are bad? Skip your kids polio vaccine so you can watch them die a slow painfull death. There is a LOT of misinformation on this board. Australia and the flu vaccine. It was never tested or approved for kids under 5. That was a government decision. A bad one. Drug companies are pure evil? Cmon are you telling my I can tell my mother to stop taking her insulin? Shes just a victim of greed? Too much. Gamma Globulin for tetnus? GG will help boost the immune system against a viral or bacterial bourne illness but doesnt nothing against a spore bourne illness like tetnus..

    September 8th, 2011 8:57 pm Reply
    • Sarah, TheHealthyHomeEconomist

      You don’t have to be a medical expert to know when you are being scammed by the Pharmacrats.

      September 8th, 2011 9:52 pm Reply
    • LAUREN

      Tetanus immunoglobulin silly. (see below)

      And no your grandma shouldn’t stop her insulin (even though type 2 diabetes is reversable), but if she has type 2 diabetes, it is completely a disease of lifestyle and modern-day living. The food industry we trust to feed us cares little about our health, and the health-industry (drugs) we trust to make us well cares little about our food!
      HUGE PROBLEM. If you take a step back and look at the picture it is impossible to not realize that the MAJORITY of the problems that we rely on the drug industry for are OUR FAULT. Individuals and our culture as a whole for letting this happen. It all goes back to what we put in our bodies.

      January 14th, 2012 5:14 am Reply
  • Ivana – Croatia

    Just to say, I have 2 sisters who both have 3 children, I hve one child. All of us got vaccinated with vaccines that are obligatory in Croatia, including shots for tetanus, MPR, hemophilius influenze, polio and so on. I also had my son vaccinetet with PREVENAR (streptoccocus pneaumonie) and we are all healthy. No mental, autoimune or other diseases. Only occasional common cold or running nose. And I have a lot of similar examples around me. I’m not saying all vaccines are good and nessesary, but please think again, if there were no vaccines we would be still dying from black plaque, but thanks to the vaccine the disease is eradicated!!!

    September 17th, 2011 6:51 pm Reply
  • Shannon

    One more anecdotal story. Nothing fascinating or dramatic though. I have 7 children. #1 was vax’d until age 2, which is when I learned I can refuse. None of the others were. Of the 7, the oldest is the only one who has asthma. She also had the worst struggle with eczema, and is sick more often. When pertussis (whooping cough) hit, she got it right along with the unvax’d ones, same severity. My then-6-week-old baby (who was somewhere around 12-15 weeks by the time it was over) never got it. My own opinion is that she was protected by being exclusively nursed, which I ramped up during everyone’s sickness to give her all I could of the antibodies I was producing as a result of the exposure that came with caring for the sick ones. With chicken pox, we tried *multiple* times to catch it, I eventually quit trying because I figured they’ll get it if they need to. When some eventually did, even though some of the siblings sleep together and we practiced NO quarantining of the sick ones, only half of the children got it. The oldest got it twice.
    I am sad at all the name-calling and insulting that has gone on in this thread, I realize (really, I do!) how frustrating this topic can be, but no one is ever convinced using those tactics.
    I definitely regret having the oldest vax’d, and do not regret not having the younger ones vax’d. Even in the uglies of pertussis, when I didn’t KNOW that no one would die, when someone asked me “don’t you wish you had spared them of this and gotten a little poke?” I still had no regrets.

    September 29th, 2011 11:05 am Reply
  • Nichole

    Hi Sarah,
    Great post. It’s always nice to see blogs/posts that support people educating themselves about what is or is not going into their body. I am a nurse and work in a hospital setting, but don’t agree with half of the practices I see. I try to be a voice that encourages patients to think before they agree to something and consent to it. Also, I work in labor and delivery and love a natural birth! While I do agree with your view point on vaccines I did want to mention that the vaccines don’t go into your bloodstream so to speak (or into the vein). They should go into the muscle (which I know it eventually leads to getting absorbed and perhaps that’s what you meant by “blood”). Also, more education for those that are reading this and choose to vaccinate themselves or their children. Please make sure that when the healthcare provider puts the needle into your arm that they ASPERATE before they inject it into your arm! That is the only way to know the vaccine is not going directly into your bloodstream/vein/artery. I have seen people give vaccines without asperating first, very UNSAFE! When all else fails just say, “please remember to asperate before you inject” if you are vaccinating.

    October 1st, 2011 9:08 am Reply
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  • Carolyn

    Well, isn’t this a heated blog… It always is. Well, for what it’s worth, here is my two cents…

    I have three kids, two of which were vaccinated fully, and one was not. My two that were vaccinated fully, they both have autism, my oldest son had a cancerous brain tumor and almost died in 2001. He was only 5 at the time. He still has his tumor but it has not grown since 2001.

    My middle child was given a round of vaccines in 2003 and suffered seizures, so from then he was no longer required to be given vaccines. For many years after his vaccines he sickly, diagnosed with seizures, autism, and ADHD. He finally recovered and “miraculously” is no longer considered autistic, ADHD and is very healthy now. But it took about 10 years for him to recover from his vaccines. The doctors cannot explain why he just got over his autism and ADHD, and say it must have been a misdiagnosis. But we saw Developmental Ped., psychiatrist and psychologist, plus many therapists, and all agreed on the autism diagnosis and ADHD at the time. I cannot say we have had a horrible experience with our Dr.s, as a matter of fact we have a great relationship with them and they are very open to the idea vaccines may have caused my three children their issues. We have even been considered for study in this area. In Dec. we see his nuerologist one more time, and if no seizures he will be deemed seizure free and will no longer need his seizure med.

    While I cannot say with 100% vaccines caused this, it sure points in the direction that vaccines were the cause. Even our doctors agree. With all the severe issues my kids have had they NEVER push vaccines for my kids, it is always a “Do you want to”. We have even had letters sent to the PS by our Dr.s excusing them from the vaccines, so we didn’t get hasseled by the schools. Sorry this is so long, but this is our story. We know seizures were caused by the vaccines, it had to be reported too. As far as my other children, well no more vaccines since my one son had his reaction to them and they are doing better but not as well as my middle child who received the fewest. We as a family have suffered, and like I said, it sure seems the vaccines are to blame for most of it.

    November 2nd, 2011 9:48 am Reply
    • Carolyn

      I didn’t realize this original post was this old, oops. I would like to add that I also blame all the bad additives in our food for the issues we see in children.

      November 2nd, 2011 10:03 am Reply
  • Laura’s Last Ditch–Adventures in Thrift Land

    My 10-year-old son has a large, icky, raised black scar on his leg where he received vaccines as a baby. And he has autism. Not sure there’s a connection, but it at least makes me wonder.

    November 6th, 2011 6:37 pm Reply
  • Mary

    Sarah, if ignorance is bliss why are you so angry?

    November 7th, 2011 8:20 pm Reply
    • mark


      December 28th, 2013 9:44 am Reply
  • Stacey

    Hi Sarah, I know this post is old and I’ve tried my best to read through all the comments thoroughly to find the answer to my question but I don’t see it and I’m really hoping you’ll respond. Long, horrible, nightmare of a story but in short, my 2 year old was double vaccinated. Our new peds office had not updated her records before her appt and she received all 6 scheduled vaccinations in one go for a second time! I was beyond furious when I found out. I have three children, oldest 2 vaxed and will not vax again. Our newest is 5 weeks (natural birth at a birth center!). You said, “There are holistic therapies that can detox a child from the vaccine’s poison, but the damage that is done can never be 100% repaired.” What can I do for my sweet girl to help rid her of the poisons I let them put in her twice. I feel sick about it. She is a very healthy, robust little girl, not sick often and our whole family is greatly benefiting from our newly adopted Real Food mentality. I need to let this guily go and any info you could pass on would be appreciated. Thanks!

    November 8th, 2011 11:38 pm Reply
    • Carolyn

      I hope you find your answer. There is a wealth of knowledge out there for detosing for various things. I would start with a reputable homeopath and get a book about it and start googling, not that everything you read online is reputable, but it gives you a starting point of what to look into. God bless you on your journey. And I know that guilt, it will eat you alive. You meant no harm, and not one parent is perfect, also it isn’t your fault she was double dosed. You must forgive yourself, and focus all that energy on positive helps and changes for your family. I am sure you’re a wonderful Mommy, but looking back with regret can destroy your ability to move forward. Learn from the past, but make sure you forgive yourself Mom, you’re human too!

      November 11th, 2011 9:47 am Reply
  • mom of 7

    I am pro vaccinate all the way, however, I don’t ever spread around all the reasons you should vaccinate, I feel it is your choice and I have no right to try to convince you otherwise.

    I live in an Amish community where they have not vaccinated in their families for generations. These families have children with health/learning issues like everyone else, such as leukemia, down syndrome, lupus, cancers, Alzheimer, etc.

    I have never seen a difference in the behavior or health of a family who vaccinates compared to a family that doesn’t and I know plenty of both.

    Behavior and health issues spawn from poor diets. Our children, who have received all of their vaccines their entire lives, are all well mannered, healthy children. We have 7 children. Two of them have 1 allergy each, even though we live in the worst area for allergies in the country. None of them have ever been sick beyond a common cold/flu about once a year or so. None of them have learning disabilities or any symptoms similar to these. I believe the reason is because our children eat healthy. We eat our own or buy all fresh/ non-hormone added meat, eggs, milk, fruit, and vegetables. We limit the children to only one “unhealthy” snack per day, a small piece of candy, a few small store bought cookies, popcorn, etc. They only drink filtered water, 100% juice, tea, and raw cow’s milk. NO SODA, NO SPORTS DRINKS, ETC.

    It sounds like you will say whatever you think will freak people out the most, even when exaggerating the facts, just to get them to stop vaccinating. As for the drug companies, OK, they are not credible when making depression/heart/high blood pressure medications, but these are meds that you are exposed to for long periods of time. A vaccine is only one to a few doses broken up over time. As for exposure to metals, and all of the other ingredients you mentioned, why not share the real facts, like how there’s more aluminum in one soda can eroding into it’s content than in hundreds of vaccines. And how your vehicle’s exhaust gives out many of the toxins that you mention. And that there are MSG’s in almost every store bought food/drink including sprayed on “fresh” fruit and vegetables to add to their shelf life. When labelled, MSG’s can be disguised as natural flavor. These are just a few off the top of my head just to prove that unless you are completely organic, and I don’t mean shopping at Whole Foods or similar, then you have no grounds for saying that everything you listed is grounds for someone to not vaccinate. They will get exposure to all of these chemicals through their foods, water supply, air, and health and beauty products, like toothpaste and detergents.

    As for what you said about vaccines that are now deemed unsafe and taken off the market, Johnson and Johnson makes baby shampoo with cancer causing agents in it. Fluoride is in water and all of your store bought foods including fruits and veggies and fluoride is poison.

    I will add that autism is a huge issue in many countries, even the ones that have NO ACCESS to vaccines. This is how they proved that vaccines were not the cause for autism.

    Pollution, poor diet, daily exposing your skin to anti-aging regimens, smoking while pregnant, drinking while pregnant, doing drugs while pregnant, being exposed to any of these things while pregnant, using tylenol, ibuprophin, fluoride, or any of the other over the counter supposedly safe medicines are all things that our society exposes themselves to on a daily basis and you think it’s necessary to go to this extreme when trying to convince people to stop vaccinating.

    Think of the outbreaks of little babies and children suffering and dying with cases of small pox, polio, scarlet fever, whooping cough, etc that our ancestors had to deal with before vaccines. Go find an early American cemetery and you will find hundreds of infants and young children on the head stones. Most of them didn’t survive those outbreaks. Vaccines eradicated most pandemic diseases. The benefit of a vaccine far out ways the risk.

    I know that in 10 years I wouldn’t want to be part of a group that didn’t vaccinate, I don’t want to watch my children slowly, painfully die with something I could have vaccinated for.

    Now, I have a question for you. If you were dying of cancer and the only way you could live was to go through Chemo therapy or radiation, what would you do; roll over and die or poison yourself to live???

    December 6th, 2011 12:55 pm Reply
  • Lorielstarr

    Hi Sarah. I wish I would have had your blog before I gave birth to my son. He’s 8 months now and has a doctors appointment in a month. He’s been vaccinated up until now but now that I’ve read your blog And talked to some people I don’t want to go through with any more vaccinations. Is this going to be a problem since he’s had some vaccinations or can I stop at any time? Do I need to prepare myself for chaos from the pediatrician? Do you have any helpful advice? Do I need to go in there prepared with information? I’m a little nervous.

    December 26th, 2011 11:37 am Reply
  • kristina

    Many are complaining that Sarah is “one-sided,”…. well, it IS her blog… and these are HER beliefs… If you went to a pro-vax article, those who don’t vax would be ridiculed! Shame on everyone for using “fear” to vaccinate or not! What is best for YOUR child is for you to do the research. Far too many parents out there vaccinate “because everyone else is doing it.”

    That’s what I would have done… except for some reason I began researching articles about those against vaccines and I chose to side with them! And Sarah is right, I am 28– and when I was younger it was definitely less than 10 mandatory shots– I think half that… now today, 60 some?! It is a BIG deal putting poison into a child’s bloodstream, direclty!…It is a BIG deal using human embryos (specific genectic makeup) into another human not yet grown. Think about your day old baby getting a Hep B shot… Hep B?! It’s to protect those that have mother’s with Hep B, Drug users, and the sexually active…. my newborn, no thank you! And to think that by the time my child may need the vaccine, the immunity is gone. Vacc Immunity isn’t 100% nor is it forever.

    If you want to vaccinate, fine. I choose not too, fine. I chose to listen to minorities in the field, like Dr. M. Einstein (sarah has noted him). And unfortunately for us, there aren’t as many of us– but we are here and we believe what we do. And if you are concerened about vaccs, there are doctors (Dr. Sears, right?), who suggests shots at a different cycle. It makes my heart sick for the 1/ 100 children who are diagnosed with Autism. The growing cases of asthma/ adhd/ allergies… And it’s not just children… adults have complications after vaccs, too. Not every injury caused by vaccs is reported, did anyone think of that?

    What we need is more studies. What we need is honest, truthful information.

    January 13th, 2012 11:50 am Reply
  • Katy

    I like your frank, honest assessment. My boyfriend always reminds me that they call it ‘practicing medicine’ for a reason. I am thouroughly unconvinced that a doc that just prescribes a med for a symptom actually knows what they are doing. Most of them are probably downing energy drinks and coffee and wondering why they are so tired. Go ahead, be rude Sarah. This country needs tough love. People just don’t want to face the truth that companies with money are squashing modern science because they can. I don’t have children yet, but I do not look forward to having the vaccination debate. Looks like I need to start looking for a pediatrician who knows the truth now…. I don’t want my future kids on formula, drugs or a diet recommended by the FDA. This is starting to feel like a communist society more and more everyday.

    January 21st, 2012 12:32 pm Reply
  • Callie Rosen

    I have to say I finally read through all your comments and there were some great points made on BOTH sides. I would just like you to build off of some stronger premises to create your conclusions. However, I believe in freedom of expression and I will defend your right to expression your opinion – not matter how many holes I see in it.

    February 4th, 2012 7:35 pm Reply
  • Ginnie

    I’m so torn on this. My son is almost 9-months-old (and therefore due for his 9 month shots…). We just moved and are in the process of finding a new pediatrician, so we have the opportunity to start over. He has had all of his vaccines up to this point, but I’m considering cutting them off here. Do you know of any negative effects off getting vaccines but not the boosters? Also, any tips on finding a pediatrician who will support a decision to not vaccinate? Is there a directory or anything? I know that when we were interviewing pediatricians when I wad pregnant, they told us that if we refused vaccinations, they would refuse us as patients.

    February 5th, 2012 1:16 pm Reply
  • Alex

    Vaccinations are an extremely important thing to have done. People who are choosing not to vaccinate their children are contributing the overwhelming outbreaks of diseases that were suppressed for so long such as pertussis (whooping cough). Although I am a pharmacist, it does not mean I am part of “big pharma” who are trying to brainwash people to get vaccinated. I work at a hospital and genuinely care for people. Vaccinations were made for a reason and that was to prevent epidemics and mass amounts of death to benefit EVERYONE. Many of the reasons why children are getting autism and other diseases are due to the environment we live in today and from GENETICS. You may look at the ingredients in these vaccines and say they are toxic, etc, however what you don’t know is the quantity to hurt someone is way under the threshold. IT WOULD NOT BE MADE AND FDA APPROVED AND ALLOWED. You people really need to get your facts straight and become educated when it comes to the opinion that you have towards “white coats”. We work very hard in school and learn that vaccinations are safe (or else they would not be given) and to help the public understand that. Yes, there are some adverse effects that do occur to people, but that is only a small majority of the population that is affected, and the benefit clearly outweighs the risk. I take it as a huge insult the views you people have on pharmacists. We do not just count pills and call it a day; we take the time to research what we are giving to patient to promote safety and healthiness.

    February 6th, 2012 1:40 am Reply
    • Bree

      Since you are proud of how you, as a pharmacist, take the time to do research, maybe you should look into this statement you typed in bold faced print regarding medicines being safe and trustworthy: “IT WOULD NOT BE MADE AND FDA APPROVED AND ALLOWED.”
      I actually laughed out loud. Ever hear of the word RECALL? If your trust is in the FDA, I feel sorry for you. Get YOUR facts straight and become educated before posting absurd comments.

      February 14th, 2012 11:12 am Reply
      • Margo

        Bree, I hate to inform you but as a pharmacist you have been trained on how to make the drug industry nothing but $$. The FDA does NOT care about our health. They work together with the food and drug companies to make billions in profits!! I repeat, THE FDA DOES NOT CARE ABOUT OUR HEALTH!! I’m not calling you stupid, it’s just unfortunate that you are very misinformed about the truth. Remember the whooping cough outbreak in California not that long ago? 47% of the children who contracted the disease were vaccinated. Why would I give my child a vaccination and have to watch the suffer the dreadful side effects of it? I suggest you quit believing in the FDA, get YOUR facts straight and do some actual research on the subject before coming on here and telling everyone they are crazy for not believing in vaccinations.

        April 14th, 2012 3:51 pm Reply
        • Margo

          That last comment was directed at Alex, not Bree

          April 14th, 2012 4:08 pm Reply
  • Lisa Suarez

    Interesting thread, I joined a forum years ago consisting of parents with autistic children. Parents should not be construed to be less knowledgeable concerning their children than doctors, they know how their child was before they were vaccinated & laboriously live the reality of their decision. Some links of interest:
    CDC officials discuss neurological damage from vaccines in secret meeting — Simpsonwood
    Metals Linked To Alzheimer’s And Other Neurodegenerative Diseases:
    Medical research is polluted by pharma-funded propaganda. Drug companies either do their own studies or hire captive Contract Research Organizations (CROs) to conduct studies, with the conclusion dictated before the study is started. Then they bribe prominent doctors to put their names on these bogus studies and articles that were ghost-written by pharmaceutical industry employees.
    These 2 messages are from the group I mentioned I found years ago, I don’t know if non-members can see it but I’ll post it in case you can.
    Baby Dies After 9 Vaccines in One Day.
    Lest you think the medical establishment has your best health in mind now or in the past you may find this an interesting read. It deals with a toxic metal poisoning in the 1800 – 1900’s and the attitude of SOME physicians.
    Beautiful Black Poison
    “According to Boyd Haley, a researcher at the University of Kentucky, the mercury in thimerosal acts as an enzyme inhibitor that can negatively affect the immune system’s ability to deal with toxins introduced in the body, such as the various diseases in the vaccines themselves.1 When combined with other heavy metals present in vaccines, the toxic effect of the metals is intensified, the same way it is enhanced after exposure to multiple forms of mercury, such as methyl mercury (in fish), ethyl mercury (thimerosal), and mercury vapors (from air pollution and amalgam fillings). Mercury has a particularly synergistic relationship with aluminum. Mercury “eats away” at aluminum, potentially releasing more mercury into the environment or tissues. Consequently, scientists believe that the aluminum present in vaccines may exacerbate the toxicity of the thimerosal.2
    Many children experience external allergic reactions such as hives and eczema because of the repeated doses of thimerosal in the childhood vaccine schedule.3 Of far greater concern is the fact that the nervous system can become “intoxicated” or overwhelmed from exposure to mercury. Symptoms of mercury intoxication include memory loss, uncontrollable shaking and loss of balance–some of the same symptoms exhibited by children after receiving a vaccine (or two or three) containing thimerosal. Many of these symptoms do not appear until some time after the vaccine has been administered, which may explain some of the learning problems and mental disorders that could potentially be associated with vaccines. The fetus is also at risk of mercury intoxication if the mother receives thimerosal-containing injections while pregnant.”
    Hope this give you more ideas how to research some of the diseases we are afflicted with. You can also look up Dr. Sherry Tenpenny & Mary E. Tocco. Peace out!

    February 6th, 2012 6:38 pm Reply
  • Lisa Suarez

    Oops, I forgot to include these. There are small segments of the U.S. that don’t have autism,

    The Age of Autism: ‘A pretty big secret’
    Read more:

    The Age of Autism: Mercury and the Amish
    Read more:

    by Lawrence Wilson, MD

    February 6th, 2012 7:51 pm Reply
  • GMB

    You people are crazy. The Autism-vaccination link has been discredited. You are clinging to bad science that has been disproved and retracted. Please, keep your polio/mumps/small pox-ridden children away from the rest of us. Are you listening to someone who has had years of medical training or someone with no training or qualifications? If you don’t trust your physician, get a different one, get a second opinion, get 10. It will be a long search before you find a board-certified Dr. that will tell you vaccinations are a bad idea.

    Good luck to your children. May their health hold out, no thanks to you.

    February 8th, 2012 5:55 am Reply
    • Margo

      If you and your children have been vaccinated for polio/mumps/small pox, then how would me or my unvacinated children being around you potentially harm your health? Didn’t you get vaccinated to ensure you wouldn’t get sick from the disease if there was an outbreak? Think about it!!

      March 26th, 2012 5:13 pm Reply
    • Melanie

      As stated many times previous to your opinion! Just because you have been vaccinated does not exempt you from contracting “said” diseases and becoming sick. This can happen all because you took those so called “preventive measures”. Alot of people wouldn’t have gotten sick at all had they not vaccinated themselves and their children. So what is the point in vaccinating? The immunity does not last, you will require booster shots to ensure effectiveness,(meanwhile a person who naturally fights any illness has the immunity for life! no boosters required!) who knows what ingredients they will have used to concoct this vaccination (since they are recalling vaccinations left and right). They are not even required to give you a full list of chemicals found in their vaccinations. Will it be harmful to you or your children? You don’t know, you just blindly follow that of the mainstream and get off lucky. If you happen to not be so lucky, the pharmaceutical companies are not even held responsible . They would never pay for the damage they can potentially cause, if proof is found a vaccination did harm to your person or worse your child!. In fact a live strain is active in your body and those of your children! So you are the polio/mumps/small pox-ridden culprits! Just let that marinate for awhile!

      April 30th, 2012 2:29 am Reply
  • Amy

    Thanks for this. I have 7 children, the oldest 4 are fully immunized, the 5th a shot or two. The fourth was given his fifth dose of DTaP in July prior to starting kindergarten. In November, I received a phone call from public health saying that he was exposed to pertussis in his classroom. I took him to the pediatrician and had him tested. Positive. My two unvaccinated children (ages 3 and 2) did not get pertussis.

    February 12th, 2012 11:53 pm Reply
  • Courtney

    GREAT article! Thank you!!

    February 16th, 2012 8:05 pm Reply
  • Anonymous

    What vaccinations are the additives found in?

    February 22nd, 2012 12:03 pm Reply
  • Charlotte

    Hi Sarah,

    Interesting points you bring up and I both agree and disagree with them. The main one I would like to bring up is how you say the big pharma companies begin pumping out vaccinations to make more money. Yet if you think about it, and if they really are in it completly for the money, wouldn’t they begin to stop making vaccinations at all? Surely the extra cases of the disease, extra hospital and doctors visits and extra scripts and purchases of the same companies drugs to help the person overcome the illness would end up making them far more money than one vaccination per person would?

    February 25th, 2012 6:56 am Reply
    • Anita

      I think vaccinations not only bring in more money to the big pharm companies but it is almost guarenteed money. How wise would it be to let a disease run rampant especially when you can’t guarentee that every baby will get that disease or that they will even be around long enough to make money off of if they do catch it? But it is almost a guarentee that the majority of new babies will get vaccinations and survive and it is not simply one vaccination per person, it is multiple vaccinations given multiple times throughout childhood. Also if the vaccinations create new health problems that require more medications then they profit from that as well.

      April 4th, 2012 1:18 am Reply
    • Margo

      Vaccinations make the big pharma companies money because vaccinations make people sick. What do people do when they are sick? They go to their doctor to get drugs. Imagine a world full of healthy people? The drug industry would be out of business!!

      April 14th, 2012 3:53 pm Reply
  • Laura

    I have not allowed the hep b shot for either of my children in the hospital, but what is your, or anyones opinion on the vitamin k shot?

    February 26th, 2012 8:27 pm Reply
  • Amy

    I urge those with autistic children or other problems to look at a product called PCA-RX put out by Maxam labs. It might be called PC3 now, not sure. I am taking it myself for other problems. It is good for heavy metal detox too. It is very powerful and I have to take a little of it at a time or I have too severe a reaction. It’s a spray and parents have gotten wonderful results with it.

    March 1st, 2012 4:18 pm Reply
  • 4fstudio

    Unfortunately I was following the advice of the medical community and had my children vaccinated. However, I have completely changed my opinion on this subject. No more vaccinations for my kids. Not that I want to diagree with your statement that vaccinated kids are the sickest. I agree with that statement. However, my kids are very healthy, despite the fact that they were vaccinated. I think the fact that I breast fed all of them, and we try to eat whole, nutrient dense, organic if possible, foods I have been able to fight off modern day “diseases” of childhood. It’s really a shame.

    When I was a child I probably had less than 20. Or I should say, there was about 20 on the recommended list. Now there is about 68 vaccinations for children up to the age 18. And now “they” are adding so many to the list its absolutely crazy into adulthood. I read somewhere that the increase in adults getting shingles, is because there are no more children getting naturally accuring chicken pox. Because the population has been vaccinated against chicken pox, adults are not getting their naturally accruing booster from being exposed to children. Makes you think twice that’s for sure.

    March 6th, 2012 10:15 pm Reply
  • Lauren

    I’m not sure if you’ll see this, but wasn’t sure where else to put it so you’d see it. I have not vetted the sources.

    March 8th, 2012 9:39 am Reply
  • AmyL

    Anyone remember Fen-Phen? I lost my aunt to this supposedly safe weight loss drug in 1996–after she’d already been to the doctor twice with chest pains and they told her it was nothing and sent her home. She went on a business trip and dies of a heart attack a few weeks later. I trust Big Pharma about as far as I can throw them.

    March 29th, 2012 5:16 pm Reply
    • CJ

      Weight-loss drugs vs. disease prevention? Not a good comparison, sorry, didn’t find that at all helpful.

      August 1st, 2012 6:35 pm Reply
  • Nicole Vitale

    I’m very uneducated about this topic.
    Aren’t certain vaccines requiered to be a part of the public school system?
    I’m in high school now and I remember in middle school everyone had to get their “7th Grade Shots” before you could even get your school schedule for the year (or quarter/semester).

    March 29th, 2012 9:41 pm Reply
  • Liz

    Hi Sarah, I live in Mozambique where polio and meningitis are real everyday threats. I understand not getting vaccinations in a country like the USA, but do these reasons apply for people living in third world countries? Can anyone shed some light on this subject for foreign readers, please?

    April 8th, 2012 1:01 pm Reply
  • CMWmd

    It’s ridiculous how much misinformation one person can spread. I will just point out a few. Glycerin- not dangerous, also found in many hand lotions, soup, etc..
    Vaccines are NOT administered “directly into the blood stream”. Most are administered SQ (under the skin) or IM (into the muscle). THAT is how a vaccine works. The body DOES have a chance to recognize what is going on, hence the anamnestic response kicks in.
    Neomycin- an antibiotic…which you already mentioned were in vaccines.
    Stating that the diseases prevented or lessened by vaccines are not fatal is absolutely absurd. The reason why YOUR kid doesn’t have to be vaccinated is because of all the moms who chose to vaccinate their own child. That is how diseases get eradicated. While your choices are fine for your own children, do not spread un-documented misinformation.

    April 9th, 2012 5:22 pm Reply
    • Sarah, TheHealthyHomeEconomist

      It would behoove you to stop believing everything you read/learned in the classroom and actually investigate the other side of the argument. You have clearly swallowed everything hook line and sinker and have never openmindedly investigated anything but what you were taught as “true”.

      April 9th, 2012 6:42 pm Reply
    • Sarah, TheHealthyHomeEconomist

      Herd immunity is a myth. The reason I don’t have to vaccinate has nothing to do with everyone else getting vaccinated. Once again, something made up by pharma industry (herd immunity) taken as truth by the believing lemmings in medical and nursing schools. Herd immunity ONLY applies to natural immunity not temporary, artificial immunity from an injection.

      April 9th, 2012 6:44 pm Reply
      • CMWmd

        Anamnestic response is not a myth. Neither is the administration of vaccines. Nothing I stated warranted an accusation of being a lemming. This is simple biology. Herd immunity is demonstrated all the time in animals, hence the term. There are often distemper outbreaks in un vaccinated areas of the world. Once people start to vaccinate their pets, the prevalence and severity of the disease goes down. Similar to how human vaccines work. I noticed you mentioned homeopathic vaccines in a few of your responses…i was curious about them, which is what lead me here. I was hoping for some valid resources, but that seems to be the only post you haven’t answered of mine.

        April 9th, 2012 10:14 pm Reply
  • Alexia

    Has anyone had the experience with their child who, at birth had very dry skin, had the 6 week check and the DTap – IPV- HepB/Hib vaccination (I’m in New Zealand). A short while later, his dry skin became eczema, I would call it bad, but not terrible.
    I am now doing the GAPS diet for him.
    Has anyone had a similar experience and is doing GAPS? How are things going?

    April 9th, 2012 9:22 pm Reply
    • HealthyMommy

      Eczema is fairly normal in babies. Put some lotion on it. :) My daughter had eczema since birth, and still gets dry patches sometimes, but a good cream has really helped her, and it had nothing to do with vaccinations. She has sensitive skin so we use baby wash with no added fragrances.

      May 24th, 2012 10:57 am Reply
      • Alexia

        Thanks for your reply Healthy Mommy.
        I do wet wrapping and put some really thick lotion on his skin over night and am trying to put hard lotion bar moisturiser on him during the day. I never wash his skin with anything other than water.
        I can stop thinking about the relationship to his vaccination and his eczema appearing. So I’m being really careful about giving him anymore.
        Are you eating a traditional diet, or one that has no preservatives etc?

        May 24th, 2012 4:55 pm Reply
        • CJ

          Try washing her with castor oil on a soft cloth, then putting organic cold press coconut oil on her skin. Avoid perfumes in soaps for you and laundry as well. Some say lye soap helps also. Bathe often, even though you’ll hear the opposite, it helps to wash away irritants, keep the bath warm and short. Pat dry with a clean towel (no fabric softeners). Try doing the elimination diets, that seemed to help two friends with eczema kids. One of my friends kid grew out of it by 5 years old. My son had it mildly as a baby, never again after a year old. Can be lifelong, can be temp. My best friend had it until high school, then grew out of it. Lets not forget our body chemistry can change as frequently as every 7 years.

          August 1st, 2012 6:44 pm Reply
    • Karen

      Hi Alexia, I know this is an old comment but really interested in how the GAPS diet worked for your child? My daughter has eczema (why I am interested in attempting the GAPS diet) and is not vaccinated so I don’t think there is any link.

      April 13th, 2015 2:03 am Reply
  • Harmony

    I am 30 years old and have NEVER EVER been vaccinated in my entire life. My parents were extremely health conscious back in the early 80’s and did their homework, it’s a shame as you say a lot of vacuum mom’s these days just believe every word the doctor tells them and never take the time to do the research themselves. My brother and I are extremely healthy and never had any major health issues at all. We did get the chicken pox when were younger and it was fine, nothing some chamomile lotion couldn’t cure. I am about to have my 1st child and want to make sure I make an informed decision, I have done a ton of research and strongly feel that I will not be getting my child vaccinated. The pharmaceutical companies will have to find other ways to make money of me! Great article!

    April 18th, 2012 3:02 pm Reply
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  • Aaron

    This fear-mongering needs to stop. Instead of listening to this unqualified individual, find out from qualified medical professions, with scientific studies, why this article is complete bullshit.

    All this autism linked to vaccine started from Wakefield’s discredited paper in the Lancet, and those of you who actually did your homework will now know the paper was retracted and it was found that Wakefield committed serious professional misconduct in authoring that paper, and has his license pulled.

    Now would you trust this kind of study? Even if we disregard the history, let’s examine her arguments:

    1. Well… I guess no one should ever drive cars, or fly planes, since car crashes and plane crashes occurred in the past.

    2. The words “chemicals” and “poisons” are there to scare the uninformed – and these names can be very scary if you don’t know what they are. The heavy metals are in trace amounts (you get a bigger dose eating TUNA), and the toxic effects of others are widely exaggerated (glycerin being toxic? it’s less toxic than alcohol!)

    3. Anecdote – otherwise known as BULLSHIT in science. I can equally say “I know many mothers who are thankful for their children being vaccinated, and won’t have permanent side effects such as infertility from contracting mumps.” It’s worthless.

    4. She thinks correlation must mean causation – and really, that is the crux of the arguments of the anti-vaccine movement, as seen in all these comments.

    5. See point 1.

    6. This is just plain WRONG. The diseases the vaccines protect you against can have very permanent effects that Sarah deliberately omitted – she must’ve known about it since she “came from a medical family” – or she simply didn’t know, because coming from a “medical family” does not equal being accepted into medical school and being licensed to practice.

    At the end of the day, go to your primary care physician. Better yet, print this article out and bring it to them, and they will explain point by point why this is complete misinformation. There’s a reason doctors go through four years of medical school, and four or more years of residency. ANYONE can post bullshit on the internet, but maybe you should look at her qualifications first and decide.

    June 29th, 2012 2:19 pm Reply
    • Tami

      WELL. SAID.

      October 16th, 2012 1:53 pm Reply
  • Dennis Edward

    When my oldest son fell while carrying some glass jars, he cut his hand badly. He was 15 at the time. We took him to the emergency at the local hospital for stitches. The cut was very deep, but thankfully did not cut his tendon in his thumb. After the stitching was done, a group of four doctors came out into the waiting room to ask me what had I fed him that his blood was so strong. They said they had never seen such healthy blood. Well, I smiled and explained how it was not so much what I had given him as what I had not given him including vaccinations and white surgar. Nevertheless, it was only a week later when the local police, with the Child Welfare Department surrounded my house and took custidy of my children, accusing me of child neglect. As she left with my 4 children the Child Welfare Director told me, “And the first thing we are going to do is get them vaccinated.” It took almost one year before we were able to legally regain custidy of our children. We had been home-schooling also at the time. Finally, after five years of court battles, we came out totally vindicated by both the Criminal and Constitutional Courts. The judge in the District Court even accused the Welfare Department of acting like an inquisition and similar to those countries behind the then just dismantling “Iron Curtain.” This was in 1989-1990 until 1995. It was a difficult time, but our homeschooling was upheld and we were vindicated though received no compensation as we were financially unable to start a process against the government at the time, especially since our appropriate family and friends had deserted us. So, be careful, be meek, but find out what your rights are. My wife and I look back at those days as some of the most exciting times, as we were in the midst of the battle, often coming out on TV (and losing my job because of it as I was a teacher) and in the press. But it is better to live for something than die for nothing. Just yesterday, I was required to appear at the hospital to talk to a doctor because my children were not vaccinated. I had received a certified letter in the post. I told the doctor that receiving a letter like I had was very intimidating and that the government was using pyschological and social pressure to make me conform. Of course, she considered me a nut case when I refused to sign her papers, confirming that I did not want the vaccination program for my children. Maybe, I was wrong, but I felt, if it is not illegal to not have your children not vaccinated why do they put so much pressure on the individual to conform. Do we live in a democratic state or a dictatorship? Anyway, Lord help me to have wisdom and patience and not unnecessarily offend these “public servants.”

    July 3rd, 2012 7:30 am Reply
    • Aaron

      “After the stitching was done, a group of four doctors came out into the waiting room to ask me what had I fed him that his blood was so strong.”

      What kind of hospital do you go to that they use such amateur language? Can “healthy blood” be “seen”? If it wasn’t “seen” by eye, by what metric do the doctors determine it’s so exceptionally healthy that they’ve never seen such a thing? Either you’re misremembering what was discussed (as could happen with technical language), thus distorting the story, or there is no truth to this. Or I guess the third possibility is that you went to some “hospital” with really, really subpar standard of care, in which case I don’t blame you for not trusting these medical “professionals.”

      If you are so anti-vaccine (for whatever concocted reason), take a stand and sign the medical exemption acknowledging that you’ve denied vaccines under informed consent.

      July 3rd, 2012 10:19 am Reply
  • MJ

    I believe your views are outdated and do not rely on valid research. You are making claims such as “HRT doubles the risk of breast cancer ” this is completely ludicrous and no study will show these numbers so where you get them is a secret. when you do quote numbers, you should always provide your sources so people like me can go to the source and see if the numbers come from a reputable study.

    July 16th, 2012 11:35 am Reply
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  • Ignorant Is The New Black (at least around here)

    Yet another case of someone who would rather blame all the problems of life on a vast, indistinct ‘power’ than assume any kind of responsibility or accept that life isn’t always fair. Hope that feeling of being “special” and “smart” is worth being so ignorant and selfish. I love how you keep telling people to do research or read the facts, when you completely ignore all information that proves how wrong basically ever you’ve ever said is. Simply refusing to acknowledge there are things outside your beliefs may work for a four year old, but when you have to deal with the real world that doesn’t cut it anymore.
    I personally hope that your kids die from (preferably vaccine preventable) diseases before they can breed, people as idiotic as you should be banned from reproducing.

    September 15th, 2012 4:54 pm Reply
    • miranda

      i completly understand everything your saying and agree with practically everything your thing the comment about her kids was pretty low. i mean she is a complete neanderthal, however i dont feel that wishing death upon her children was at all necssary. i know it wasn’t and im 14.

      February 24th, 2013 1:43 pm Reply
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  • Tami

    I cannot understand what vaccinated children you are looking at, but mine are healthy as horses…. as is the rest of the household. We get sick SO infrequently, in fact, that it’s astonishing to me some times. We practice good hygiene, eat right, and take herbal supplements as well as vitamins. We are GREAT.

    I realize there are certain situations where people have been less lucky than my family in these areas, but you seem to put out the message that if you vaccinate, you cannot possibly be as healthy. This is ignorance at it’s finest, and untrue.

    I feel sorry for the new and confused mom (where we all have been once in our lives) who is researching this VERY important area for her child/children and happens upon this blog post. The way you come across is rude, uninformed, and completely one sided. It really doesn’t matter if your dad were a doctor or a diesel mechanic. Such a bunch of irrelevant information that seems to have been presented to make YOU sound educated enough. My dad drives an 18 wheeler for a living, and has since 1974. I cannot even drive a standard shift family car. I make no claims that put me at a position to give advice so high and mighty to people looking to learn the trucking industry. I’m a MOM, and in that area, I can ADVISE. But I would NEVER assert myself as you have here.

    Shame on you for discouraging parents and swaying them to only ONE side of the coin. I vaccinated my kids. I did my homework and made a decision based on what I believe, for ME and MY kids. PERIOD. What I would say to a new mom would be to weigh out options… do your homework, thoroughly, and do NOT listen to people who cannot look at 2 sides of the coin. I believe in weighing out options and deciding on each vaccination… not to be a sheep, but to be an informed, caring parent who can educate herself and keep my mouth shut and mind open when necessary. We must, as GOOD parents, weigh out RISKS TO BENEFITS… which is a very important area that you didn’t even go near. Shaking my head.

    Above all, you were very insulting to anybody who vaccinated their kids. Some people are not aware of options. They simply do not know that you can say no. You should be more helpful instead of so rude. Shaking my head again.

    October 16th, 2012 1:46 pm Reply
  • Marie

    Sarah, here is a doctor who would agree with you completely. As for all you critics who want a highly educated doctor with excellent credentials who’s against vaccines here you go!!

    Dr. Palevsky received his medical degree from the NYU School of Medicine in 1987. He completed a pediatric residency at the Mount Sinai Hospital in NYC, and a fellowship at Bellevue Hospital-NYU School of Medicine in the pediatric outpatient department and emergency room by 1991.

    Dr. Palevsky began his career working as a pediatrician in the emergency room of Our Lady of Mercy Medical Center in the Bronx, NY from 1991-1995. He served as the Chief of the Pediatric Acute Care Unit at NYC’s Lenox Hill Hospital from 1995-1998, and continued on in the Department of Pediatrics at Lenox Hill until March 2000. In April 2000, Dr. Palevsky began his practice as the holistic integrative pediatrician for the Center for Health & Healing, an integrative and complementary care medical facility affiliated with the Beth Israel Medical Center in NYC.

    Since 1991, Dr. Palevsky’s clinical practice experience includes pediatric emergency and intensive care medicine, in-patient and out-patient pediatric medicine, neonatal intensive care medicine, newborn and delivery room medicine, and conventional, holistic and integrative pediatric private practice in NYC.

    Dr. Palevsky is a Fellow of the American Academy of Pediatrics, Past — President of the American Holistic Medical Association, a Diplomate of the American Board of Integrative Holistic Medicine, and a medical advisory board member to the Natural Gourmet Institute for Food & Health in New York City, Developmental Delay Resources and the National Vaccine Information Center.

    I highly recommend reading through his website:

    October 17th, 2012 10:45 pm Reply
  • Jenny

    My son had started speaking a few words by one year, and after his round of vaccinations at 18 months, suddenly stopped those words. It was very scary! I began researching like crazy and determined to not vaccinate again! I started giving him raw milk, and started giving him cod liver oil pills every day (good for the brain!) The week of his third birthday, he began talking again – praise the Lord!!

    Now he is 6, and the doctor is really urging me to get him caught up with his vaccinations. Since we homeschool, I’m not running into any problems with the school district requiring it, thankfully.

    I’m wondering how necessary annual “wellness” check-ups are if a parent is choosing not to vaccinate ??? Would love some feedback. He is totally “well.” So, is it necessary? I am dreading a vaccination talk with my doctor – or even worse, the nurse! ) :

    October 19th, 2012 12:30 pm Reply
  • Meg C

    I was reading this website and the posts. First of all it is ethically someones choice to decide if they imunize themselves or their children. But to be able to make this decision the person must be informed. Everyone has a different view on this issue but the CURRENT research shows that immunzing is safe and can potentially protect you and your family against potential life threatening diseases. The first issue is yes there are adverse reactions to immunizations just like there are to every medications. BUT, adverse reactions are ANY reactions that occur even if they are mild such as a sore arm after an immunization. So when it is said on this website that there have been 1600 adverse reactions to the gardisil vaccine well yes maybe that number was right but how many of those were serious reactions? The drug companies are requred to state all possible adverse reactions they recorded during studies even if only one person experienced that reaction and the gardisil vaccine * actual side effects (you will notice paralysis is not one of them) The side effects include pain, swelling, itching, bruising, and redness at the injection site, headache, fever, nausea, dizziness, vomiting, and fainting. Fainting can happen after getting GARDASIL. Sometimes people who faint can fall and hurt themselves. For this reason, your health care professional may ask you to sit or lie down for 15 minutes after you get GARDASIL. Some people who faint might shake or become stiff. This may require evaluation or treatment by your health care professional.
    As of right now:
    Each day in the United States, 30 women are diagnosed with cervical cancer (about 11,000 women per year) and it is estimated that each minute there is a new case of genital warts in men and women.
    Now that you know that it is your choice to make the decision whether you want to take the chance to be vaccinated and possibly experience a side effect from the immunization OR you may contract the diease and experience the side effects from the disease which you may not even contract.
    The second issue is related to thimerisol and autism. There is no reliable research relating these two things. Thimerisol is ethylmercury which is excreted from the body by the intestines just like the food you eat. Methylmercury is the heavy metal that builds up in your body and can lead to poisoning and toxicity. Now the website claims that vaccines are poisonous and that drug companies hide things from us. Well the world health organization (which I believe works in the best intersest of the entire worlds health) has published studies on thimerisol among many other things and debunks the idea that it causes autism. *The Global Advisory Committee on Vaccine Safety concludes that there is no evidence of toxicity in infants, children or adults exposed to thiomersal (containing ethyl mercury) in vaccines.
    July 2006
    In 1999, concerns were raised in the United States of America about exposure to mercury in vaccines. This was based on the realization that the cumulative amount of mercury in the infant immunization schedule potentially exceeded the recommended threshold set by the United States government for methyl mercury. However, thiomersal, the preservative in some vaccines, contains ethyl mercury not methyl mercury. The Global Advisory Committee on Vaccine Safety (GACVS) first assessed this issue at a special meeting in August 2000. The Committee review has been ongoing since then.
    Expert consultation and data presented to the GACVS indicate that the pharmacokinetic profile of ethyl mercury is substantially different from that of methyl mercury. The half-life of ethyl mercury is short (less than one week) compared to methyl mercury (1.5 months) making exposure to ethyl mercury in blood comparatively brief. Further, ethyl mercury is actively excreted via the gut unlike methyl mercury that accumulates in the body.
    Four independently conducted epidemiological studies investigating associations and frequency of neurobehavioural disorders in relation to vaccination with thiomersal-containing vaccines have been completed in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and Denmark. The findings from these studies do not challenge the safety of existing thiomersal-containing vaccines in infants. Recently two studies were published alleging reduction of neurodevelopmental disorders in the United States of America following discontinuation of thiomersal-containing vaccines in the national immunization programme. The Committee found the conclusions made by the authors unconvincing due to the study design, and the data source.
    The GACVS reviewed available information on an ongoing thiomersal pharmacokinetic study in macaque monkeys and assessed the validity of animal models in studying associations between thiomersal and neurobehavioural disorders in humans. The Committee was informed of ongoing human neurobehavioural studies and thiomersal exposure in the United States of America and Italy and of a study on the suitability of thiomersal-free vaccines in multidose vial presentations, assessed by retained sterility for up to 30 days.
    On the basis of the foregoing, the GACVS concluded that the most recent pharmacokinetic and developmental studies do not support concerns over the safety of thiomersal (ethyl mercury) in vaccines. The Committee concluded, and advises accordingly, that there is no reason on grounds of safety to change current immunization practices with thiomersal-containing vaccines, as the risks are unproven. However, data for well-nourished neonates born at term cannot necessarily be extrapolated to preterm or malnourished infants. Studies on the latter group would be difficult to conduct, but the GACVS encourages further research.
    The GACVS will continue to review the evidence, including any epidemiological data, that might emerge from on-going studies.
    The GACVS is a scientific advisory body established by WHO to provide a reliable and independent scientific assessment of vaccine safety issues in order to respond promptly, efficiently and with scientific rigour to such issues. Membership includes experts from around the world in the fields of epidemiology, paediatrics, internal medicine, pharmacology and toxicology, infectious diseases, public health, immunology and autoimmunity, drug regulation, and safety.
    Now these are just some of the facts. I hope if you are trying to decide whether to vaccinate or not you fin published research studies that are peer-reviewed. They are your most reliable source not a website like this which claims you should make your own decision and then scares you with the writers own personal paranoid beliefs. Anything can happen and the best thing we can do is make an informed decision that we are comfortable with. Vaccines may not be 100% effective sometimes and well lets face it everyones bodies work a little differently but if we can take the chance and even if we are healthy and know we will be fine if we catch the disease we should think about the people who might not be able to fight off the disease we may be spreading to them.

    November 4th, 2012 9:54 pm Reply
    • Fiona

      Where is the evidence that Gardasil ACTUALLY WORKS? Really? If I could see 100% clear EVIDENCE that Gardasil actually prevented cervical cancer, and that there were NO DANGEROUS SIDE EFFECTS at all from the vaccine, I’d consider vaccinating my daughter.

      As it is, I don’t believe there is any evidence it protects against cervical cancer, and it seems that the number of adverse side effects that people who have had the vaccine have experienced, actually outnumber the number of people who die from cervical cancer (and if I didn’t explain that well, if you get the numbers per 100,000 population, the incidence of dying of cervical cancer is lower than the incidence of side effect from the vaccine). No I can’t remember the numbers, but I HAVE researched this!

      Also, where I live they only vaccinate GIRLS with Gardasil. How very ridiculous! If you want to create some sort of “herd immunity” don’t you have to vaccinate 95% of the population? And as the girls who catch genital warts will, the majority of the time, contract it from MALES, then wouldn’t it make more sense to vaccinate ALL KIDS and not just female ones? (Really, that part strikes me as more stupid than anything else… how on earth does one eradicate a disease through vaccination while leaving over 50% of the population unvaccinated??!)

      December 31st, 2012 4:54 am Reply
      • Adam El-Tablawy

        I’m very glad to hear that you did reasearch. I am dissapointed to hear you looked at the wrong information.

        February 3rd, 2015 7:46 pm Reply
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  • Amrit

    I have a 7 month old daughter. She has not been vaccinated. I did not know much about vaccines or their ingredients or their risks until not long ago. I have made an effort to educate myself about them, all in the interest of my child. I wish I had done it sooner. I knew in my heart that it was so wrong to stick a needle full of god knows what into a fragile new baby fresh into the big scary world. All she needs is a warm soft breast and a loving mother, why would I subject her to the “schedule” of people who have no connection to her?
    What I kick myself for overlooking is how this does not only apply to us humans, but to our beloved animals too. I was on the fence about certain vaccines for my daughter, but without a second thought brought my beautiful 91 pound best friend to the vet for his bill of health and shots to go through Canada (as we were moving down from Alaska).
    At the vet’s office, they examined Toklat and gave him a CERTIFICATE of GOOD HEALTH. Then the vet gave him his Rabies shot and asked if I wanted to give him the Distemper/Parvo. He gave me the schpeil on all of the infectious dog diseases in the lower 48, some of which could be fatal. Sure? Why not (how can it be bad)? Stupid me. I will regret this for the rest of my life.
    He gave the shots, charged us 80$ and sent us on our way. Little did I know that I only had one week left with my magnificent white magical dog (yes, he really was that amazing.) We noticed that he seemed lethargic and sluggish that night, but seemed better by the next day. We thought nothing of it. We went for walks, went to town, played around the house, and he watched us frantically pack our belongings in our little sedan and ready for our move. 5 days later he became lethargic again. He didn’t eat much, wasn’t excited to go for a walk (VERY abnormal), didn’t jump for joy when my friends came to visit (also very weird) and didn’t do much at all. Except eat a lot of grass and throw it up. The next day when I came back from town, he could hardly walk- he was staggering and running into things. He had gone blind in one eye. I called the breeder who I had met by chance two weeks before and she advised me to buy some detox remedies which I did and proceeded to give him. She said that he’d had a seizure and this had happened to one of her dogs following the rabies vaccine also. Detoxing seemed to help, but against her advice I didn’t let him sleep in our room that night. I was too afraid of a 4 month old baby sleeping in the room with a 90 pound dog having seizures. He had more seizures in the night, and he had lost sight in his other eye. I knew because I tried to walk him around and he ran into everything. It was tearing me apart. Things were no longer looking up, and at some point that day he lost his hearing too. We kept him in the house, put all else on hold, and tried to comfort him, but he just stumbled through the living room- he couldn’t stay in one spot. He even climbed over the couch to get to his bed because he remembered that it was on the other side of the ottoman. It was so painful to watch. More painful was when he stopped pacing. He was probably so tired, he just fell against my husband who was holding him. Then he lay down on his side on the floor and he didn’t get up anymore. I wasn’t even sure if he could hear me anymore, he just laid there with a glazed look in his eyes, breathing shallow breaths with these occasional big heaving sighs. He lay there in a coma for five hours before I had to make the call to put him to sleep. My beautiful lively companion of four years who just one week before was ready to do anything on a moment’s notice was now beyond help. The only thing that could have caused this was the vaccines, in fact the vet had given me an OFFICIAL CERTIFICATE OF GOOD HEALTH to prove it.
    I have learned my lesson the hardest way. It has wrenched my heart enough losing my dog in this way- I think I would die if it were my daughter. I hate that he had to be my eye opener, but I am grateful for the service he has done for our family, which shall ever remain vaccine free.

    November 19th, 2012 3:28 am Reply
  • Stephanie

    This may have been addressed already, but I just couldn’t spend anymore time reading through all the comments (I have Thanksgiving dinner stuff to prepare.)
    Anyways, we are in the military and mover a lot, and every time we move I have to present my children’s shot records and show that they are up-to-date. My children were all vaccinated, it has only been recently that I started doing more research. So my question is this…what do you do about the schools that won’t allow children that have not received all their vaccinations?

    November 21st, 2012 2:05 pm Reply
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  • Michelle

    AGREE with everything you’ve said except this:

    “Conversely, you can never undo a vaccination. There are holistic therapies that can detox a child from the vaccine’s poison, but the damage that is done can never be 100% repaired.”

    My son was DXed with Autism at 3. I know he was poisoned by the vaxes AND my 8 dental mercury amalgams & crowns (since removed) in vitro. I know know that “autism” is heavy metal (mercury & aluminum mostly) poisoning as the symptoms are identical:

    But now he has recovered from this nightmarish syndrome. It took years, but we chelated the metals out using Dr. Andrew Hall Cutler’s protocol, a chemist who devised an inexpensive way to bind heavy metals, and dislodge them from your body. Nothing holistic here, just Chemistry 101.

    Once the poison has been removed, the immune system repairs itself, and the comorbid conditions (candida, eczema, GI issues, etc.) Amazing how the body can repair itself!

    I once had a child headed for an institutional life who now thrives in a normal school, without aides or therapies of any kind, free of any disability.

    Wish more than anything I hadn’t vaxxed, but there IS a way out for most ADD, ASD, ADHD.

    LOVE your candor! 😉

    November 30th, 2012 9:23 am Reply
  • Sandra

    This was just HIL-A-RIOUS! My favorite part of this article is when Sarah talks about the 24 infants harmed by the second Rotavirus vaccine. 24 out of how many?! Hundreds of thousands?! Side effects are common with any medication and the fact that you’re using such a miniscule percentage to sway people from vaccinations is ridiculous and humorous. Paranoid quacks like this just crack me up.

    January 2nd, 2013 3:23 am Reply
  • Sam

    I fully respect any parent’s decision to vaccinate or not to vaccinate. However, I have a difficult time trusting any “medical” article or article providing medical advice or opinions that does not supply sources for their data. Reliable sources at that. Also, in an argument, it is most effective to provide supporting data relivent to the subject: re: your section on pharmaceutical companies.

    January 2nd, 2013 10:55 am Reply
  • Rasta Man

    this is a wonderful article and i applaud you courage in writing it.
    i am most amazed at the comments though…. its supprising to see ppl who said they vaccinated their kids spending so much time writing on the benefits of vax with only the FDA website as their “prove”. (i smell big pharma trolls)…
    its dificult for me to believe b’cos i have not seen anyone who actually researched vaccines and still got it willingly…. All the ppl i know that got their kids vax and that have actually researched vaxs are regretting it.

    though i am an African, i do understand the concept of trolls and a great article like this will definitely get trolls.

    Here in Africa, some (very few) of us know the dangers of this and we can point to our generation and our parents as example of unvacinated and yet healthy ppl.
    while growing up, some of us noticed that it was only the children of rich, educated ppl (as so, vaccinated ppl) that use eye glasses at early age, and have asthma… (i never knw what asthma was till i was 20 yrs old) have fertility problems and cancer…(???)
    our ancestors have no name for cancer because they never had the desease.

    i know sm ppl will disagree with me bcos holywood has trained u to believe that Africans are dying of malnutrition and deseases but just take a good look at the next olympics or new york marathon to see how strong we are (and ofcourse once u go black….).

    so, Sarah, thanks for this article, it is very helpfull in making my vaccination decisions. may the God(s) of your ancestors guide and be with you.

    January 4th, 2013 7:57 am Reply
  • DIane

    I didn’t vaccinate my son. He is the healthiest boy i know. If your child is vaccinated, why do you care? Vaccines do not prevent sickness. So sad how people are brainwashed. :( Doctors are regular people that went to school for a long time to have “m.d” after their name. Question: When you got your child vaccinated, did the doctor give you a list of all the ingredients? Lead, suflates, chemicals, preservatives, etc?

    Didn’t think so!

    January 10th, 2013 8:35 pm Reply
    • Robert Jones

      It affects other children because your child could contract the disease, not be sick but allow it to use them as a host and mutate. That will make vaccine resistant diseases. You attack doctors because of their “title” but what experience do you have in this subject? Not articles read or podcasts you listen to, but actual experience? Have you participated in a double blind study of vacination vs natural immunization? Vaccines do actually prevent illnesses…. that’s exactly how they work. They aren’t created for pure profit, but out of a necessity to survive. If you don’t believe that leave your comfy suburaban life, and goto a country where your child wouldn’t last 5 years without contracting Malaria, Yellow Fever, Typhoid, Cholera, or some other awful disease. Then tell me how your alternative treatments will help him/her.

      January 31st, 2013 12:25 pm Reply
  • Picasso

    Sarah, thank you for this post. I totally 100% agree with you! I will never vaccinate my child, (he is 8 months now) Happy, healthy and vaccine free. I don’t care what corrupted medical organ say about the vaccine, to me they are TOXIC!! It’s my baby and my choice. Doctors in this country are brain washed about a drugs and I don’t trust them. I use to live in Europe and i can honestly say that, the doctor approach to drugs is completely different, they ask you to try natural remedies before they inject you with drugs. So to all this people that decide to ruin their children life’s by injecting them with garbage I have one word; ignorance is bliss !!!

    January 17th, 2013 8:59 pm Reply
  • Bob

    Not insulting anyone, but there are so many logical fallacies in Sarah’s arguments.

    In addition, there is little actual peer reviewed evidence that supports any of Sarah’s arguments. Merely saying that the doctors are being bought out by pharmaceuticals and replacing it with anecdotal evidence is not proof of anything.

    To any parents reading, I implore you to take the advice of professionals and doctors. Don’t put your children and society at risk.

    January 25th, 2013 5:23 am Reply
  • Robert Jones

    You’re posts are not based on any science and you are giving medical advice based soley on your opinion. You are endangering not just those children who will now get measeles or other childhood illnesses but those who they come in contact with. For a source, I live outside the US, in a country where vaccines are necessary to survive, and I am glad that people here have not forgotten how valuable the advances in vaccines are, and have not bought into the one autism/vaccine linked study which has been repeatedly discredited.

    Prove your statements with a scholarly reviewed, double blind study or stop posting this crock. You aren’t medically trained, you have only second hand knowledge of the science behind vaccinations, and should you wish to continue to post this, you should put a disclaimer that you do not support this view enough to take responsibilty for the effects of your views. If you are so confident that these vacinations are dangerous, goto a country where children die if they cannot get these vaccines. Then you’ll see what could happen without herd immunizations.

    January 31st, 2013 12:20 pm Reply
    • estremadura

      I had all of the childhood illnesses. So all of my classmates. So had my mother, father, many family members, who lived up to 80-90, 90+ years wiht almost no medcal attention.
      I haven’t seen a doctor either for the last 30 years, and have no plans to see any of them for the next 30. I have had the most basic vaccinations, don’t take medications to prevent any deseases, either.
      Whole countries, and nations with 1/50 of “health care ” costs of that of theUS, do have similar life expectancy… Society in the US is overmedicalized, which costs tremoundously , and still one of the worst nation, health wise in the developed world!
      During hundreds and thousand years we have learned ways to combat accute illnesses, but we don’t know the mid and long term results of this medical and farmaceutical experiment, what we call western,allopatic medicine. We have never had so many chronically ill people, than now,, and not only the old!

      February 25th, 2013 7:25 pm Reply
      • mark

        the reason the USAs health care costs so much is because it’s a war zone. in other country’s you get helped, end of. but in the US if there is a slight thing you are unhappy about then you get a lawyer and sue. this forces hospitals and other practices to charge ridiculous amounts of money as otherwise if they go sued they would go out of business (and i used this term as nobody will support a failing establishment and hospitals are no exception).

        December 28th, 2013 10:18 am Reply
        • Dante

          The reason US healthcare if so mercinary is complex and has many causes but the main ones are:

          1- Lack of collective bargining. The UK has a contract for replacement hips, that’s like 63,000 hip replacements a year, so the whole country buys bulk and we get a cheaper price, rather than each hospital or hospital group battling for themselves. A hip replacement here costs $13,000, it costs between $80-$100,000 in the US because of this. Lipitor costs $120 per month in US, in New Zealand it’s $7.
          2 – which brings me to inelastic demand,so as above- if I have a drug that will keep you alive that i will sell at $7 you will pay but if I say it’s worth $120 you will find a way to pay for that, without collective bargining the industry is capable of charging whatever the market can bear, which is actually rather a lot, becuase you can’t argue for the best deal when you ‘NEED’ the item in question like a pacemaker or medicine.
          3 – The industry is profit driven, and as a result you don’t trust your doctors to do their job and instead want to micromanage them. Take away profit and you get decisions made for medically important reasons, not with money in mind.
          4- malpractice costs, defensive medicine and over utalisation do not contribute significantly to the costs, together these contribute about 1.7%. Tort reform in texas limits malpractice and the need for defensive medicine and it only saw a drop of .1%
          5- American people pay more per head in taxes for healthcare than UK people and get nothing for it, they pay 18% of GDP on healthcare, and Austrailia pays about 9%
          6. America is not more prescribed than the rest of the world, but it’s that you are charged more per pill than social healthcare systems.

          February 4th, 2015 11:32 am Reply
  • Pokey the Penguin

    Sarah, you are utterly retarded. Please kill yourself before you spread anymore of your anti-common sense garbage.

    January 31st, 2013 8:34 pm Reply
    • Alexia Hoyt

      what an awful thing to say Pokey. It seems that you like to say the worst things without the fear of people knowing who you are. That is typical cowardice that comes with trolling.
      If you disagree find a respectful way to say it.

      January 31st, 2013 8:38 pm Reply
      • Pokey the Penguin

        How many people are going to get sick and die from listening to this asshole? It’s better that she self-terminate. There’s no vaccine for stupid and she’s got a bad case.

        February 1st, 2013 12:54 pm Reply
        • Alexia Hoyt

          Again, Pokey, if you disagree find a respectful way to say it. You kill your message by being so hateful.
          Perhaps something like “I am really concerned about the advice that Sarah is giving, how many people are going to get sick and die from listening to her advice?”.
          It is not hard to be respectful and still disagree.

          February 1st, 2013 4:03 pm Reply
  • RN

    First I must acknowledge that I am an educated health professional and therefore I am biased in this opinion. The success of immunizations is it’s own greatest enemy. Take the MMR vaccine for example. When introduced in the early 1960’s, people were welcoming of immunizations. At this time, there were up to 400,000 cases occurring annually (Public Health Agency of Canada, 2013). Mortality rates for measles are as high as 5 per 1000 infected cause (Public Health Agency of Canada, 2013). This means that in 400,000 cases of measles, 2000 infected people die.
    I pose this question to any vaccine skeptic: Is it appropriate for all people to stop immunizing against MMR? I think it is unfair to only consider “one person not immunizing.” If it is appropriate for one person to not immunize then it should be appropriate for all of us to stop immunizing. If this were to happen, theoretically, disease and correlating mortality rates will increase to the previous 400,000 and 2000 persons/ year. How many people died of the MMR vaccine this year?
    Risk of disease outweighs the risks of immunization. In a world where we don’t see the impact of disease, we are distracted by the risk of immunization.

    February 3rd, 2013 1:39 pm Reply
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  • miranda

    As a parent, you may not like seeing your baby or child being given an injection. However, vaccination is an important step in protecting your child against a range of serious and potentially fatal diseases.

    Vaccinations are quick, safe and extremely effective. Once your child has been vaccinated against a disease, their body can fight that disease more effectively if they come into contact with it. If a child isn’t vaccinated, they will be at increased risk of catching the illness.

    There will always be some children who are unavoidably unprotected because:

    -they can’t be vaccinated for medical reasons
    -they’re too young to be vaccinated
    -they can’t get to the vaccine services
    -for a few, the vaccine doesn’t work
    But if more parents have their children vaccinated, then more children in the community will be protected against catching an illness. This lowers the chance of an outbreak of the disease.

    The only time that it’s safe to stop vaccinating children against an illness is when the disease has been wiped out worldwide.

    For example, when every country had eliminated smallpox in 1979, vaccination against the disease was stopped. It’s hoped that polio will soon be eradicated, and that measles may follow.

    February 24th, 2013 1:30 pm Reply
  • miranda

    As a parent, you may not like seeing your baby or child being given an injection. However, vaccination is an important step in protecting your child against a range of serious and potentially fatal diseases.

    Vaccinations are quick, safe and extremely effective. Once your child has been vaccinated against a disease, their body can fight that disease more effectively if they come into contact with it. If a child isn’t vaccinated, they will be at increased risk of catching the illness.

    There will always be some children who are unavoidably unprotected because:

    -they can’t be vaccinated for medical reasons
    -they’re too young to be vaccinated
    -they can’t get to the vaccine services
    -for a few, the vaccine doesn’t work
    But if more parents have their children vaccinated, then more children in the community will be protected against catching an illness. This lowers the chance of an outbreak of the disease.

    The only time that it’s safe to stop vaccinating children against an illness is when the disease has been wiped out worldwide.

    For example, when every country had eliminated smallpox in 1979, vaccination against the disease was stopped. It’s hoped that polio will soon be eradicated, and that measles may follow.

    just saying.

    February 24th, 2013 1:31 pm Reply
  • Fiona

    Interestingly, the other day I came across an envelope of old speeches written c1902 (one was dated so I assume the others were of a similar era). The thing that fascinated me was one was about the evils of compulsory vaccination! Very interesting that over 110 years ago many people were wary of the dangers of vaccination and skeptical of its efficacy.

    February 24th, 2013 4:18 pm Reply
  • Candace Prosser

    I have a serious and awkward situation…. I work for WIC as a Breastfeeding Peer Counselor in the state of TX. I have been demanded to come in and vaccinate or re-vaccinate this Friday or risk losing my job. The vaccines include varicella, TB test, TDap booster, Hep,….My problem is that I am pretty healthy and never get sick, even though I have a typical American diet….I had a very severe case of the chicken pox as a Kindergartener in 1983. My mother was going through cancer treatment at the time and died in 85. My father remarried and we changed pediatricians. Unless I have a letter from a healthcare professional stating that I have already had the chicken pox I am ordered to get the vaccine. I really do not want to have a shingles outbreak because I get this vaccine and already have the immunity. I have never had chicken pox outbreak since my initial one, even though I have been exposed multiple times. Any ideas will be greatly appreciated. I also do not want to lose my job.

    February 25th, 2013 9:04 am Reply
  • Rehsab Thgir

    “Vaccination is an extremely controversial topic these days.”

    No it isn’t. The scientifically illiterate spreading conspiracy hypotheses does not a controversy make.

    February 27th, 2013 8:41 pm Reply
  • Nicole Toole

    Sarah, what are your thoughts on the whooping cough going around right now and newborn babies? I didn’t vaccinate my children but my friend just had a baby and will be taking her to several large social events and people are telling her she needs to get the baby vaccinated at the very least for whooping cough. Thanks so much!

    April 2nd, 2013 2:15 pm Reply
  • Toby

    Fair enough to review both sides of a very debatable topic however we should compare quantifiable research not hear-say and rumors. I have a 9 month old son and reviewed this topic back and forth however in the argument of not-to-vaccinate I have yet to see any research to support. The argument is supported by hear say stories of “I didn’t vaccinate and see my kids are fine’, newspaper articles, doctors who say ‘in my opinion’ however they do not represented and entire field of medicine, and yes quoting the on the few incidents of a complication of vaccination (how many complications occur compared to how many vaccinations given – pretty low). There are complications in any medical procedure no matter how simple the procedure may be. Children have died from a simple tonsil or appendix removal unfortunately – wish it wasn’t true but yes it does happen – would you still have the procedure for your child? I can go on to the non-evidenced based material however let’s look at to vaccinate – there are many double blinded research studies conducted world wide to prove the effectiveness of vaccination versus non-vaccination. These research studies look at the short term and long term. Look at how we now see a resurgence of things such as Whooping cough and Tb.

    I respect every parents choice to do what they feel is best for your child especially as we all know becoming a parent seems to give everyone else a right to tell you how to raise your child :) (even if you didn’t ask their opinion). I do believe that making a decision based on research versus hearsay.

    April 10th, 2013 7:27 pm Reply
  • AliceDee

    to Nicole Toole,
    I would tell your friend with the new baby to not get that vaccine and instead stay home with the baby. People can wait to meet the baby until they are older and more robust.

    April 15th, 2013 6:50 pm Reply
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  • Graham

    There is nothing better than reading through 2years worth of fools comments, in 1994 the uk pushed for the mmr vaccine to be made available to the whole country because of the idiots that didn’t get ther children vaccinated and started of the epidemic. 92% of the countries 7.4million children ages 5-16 go the vaccination and only 2 cases of severe flu where ever reported and seems as the vaccine was pushed through the months of October to December than flu from other sources seems highly likely.
    Don’t be silly people get up kids vaccinated

    April 18th, 2013 9:35 am Reply
    • Fiona

      You know, I don’t think the problem stemmed from just a few standard vaccines. Back when I was a kid we were vaccinated… and most of us turned out okay! However, today kids and babies are getting soooooo many more vaccines than we ever used to! Vaccines against dreadful diseases like chicken pox (really?? they tried to get my year 7 son vaccinated for it this year…), and Hepatitis B (for newborns no less! A baby just a couple of days old being vaccinated for a disease that’s generally sexually transmitted or transmitted via blood…hmmm), and then there’s HPV which hasn’t even been proved to WORK yet, and yet which has caused a great deal of harm to many young people (no, not all… but again, it’s against a disease that’s largely preventable, and well screened for…). Add to this the ingredients that are actually IN the vaccine, and the way many vaccines are manufactured (aborted fetal cells!!).

      If vaccination could be made completely safe, and was completely reliable, I’d be more on the side of vaccination. Right now I think it’s going too far, and the number of vaccinations being given to babies is beyond ridiculous. If you’re going to vaccinate, fine, but do your research… REFUSE to get a newborn vaccinated (unless it’s for a VERY GOOD REASON ie. the mother is a carrier of the disease), and spread out the vaccines over a longer schedule.

      April 18th, 2013 7:52 pm Reply
  • Gary Stew

    Do you even research/common sense?

    April 22nd, 2013 10:14 pm Reply
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  • marc guillaume

    Remember, that if one accepts scientific evidence of the dangers of certain drugs (which were only found to be dangerous by using scientific methods) one also has to accept scientific evidence in support of vaccines. Polio? Killing and paralyzing 10,000 children, plus, children in the US every year in the 1950s, now totally gone from this country because of vaccines.

    Smallpox? Worldwide deaths in 20th century estimated at 300 million. Deaths since 1977? none. Thank you vaccines and thank you to the scientific, evidence based process that got us here.

    Science has many error-checking mechanisms built in to the process. To argue that drug companies have to pull drugs because they are found to be deadly defacto argues that since vaccines, like polio, have been on the market for generations, they are thus not deadly.

    April 23rd, 2013 9:30 pm Reply
    • Monica Aikman

      Well said. Not saying that vaccines are perfect – they aren’t, and children do die from side effects, but many epidemiologists say far fewer than would be lost to the disease – but I also wish that many of the “natural” products on health food store shelves had to go under as close a scrutiny that vaccines have to. And yet people flock to buy, somehow trusting the non-research and anecdotal evidence around those products far more than heavily scrutinized vaccines. This causes me great confusion, as it does my colleagues in the nursing profession.

      May 1st, 2013 2:39 pm Reply
  • Colossus

    on one hand audrey i agree with you on the fact that slavery should have been abolished but i completely juxtapose your idea that Neil Armstrong was the first man on the moon as i know it was none other than Daniel Goodall, i think this song summarises my thoughts.

    I like big butts and i cannot lie, you other brothers cant deny, when a girl walks in with the iddy biddy waist and a round thing in your face you get sprung.

    April 25th, 2013 7:07 am Reply
  • Beckie Singer

    I know of a child that was unvaccinated that wasn’t as healthy as a child that was. Because you know she uh died. Whooping cough was all but eradicated – and this baby was too young to get the vaccination. She relied on herd immunity you know other people around her to be vaccinated so that she wouldn’t get the disease. Unfortunetly people in her community decided they didn’t want to give their children the pertussis vaccine so this little 3 month old got pertussis, her little body couldn’t handle it and she died. An easily preventable death in an non-vaccinated child who was not as healthy as a vaccinated one. Yeah the other children didn’t die… because they were older and their bodies were more able to handle the disease.
    What about those who are immunocompressed and can’t be vaccinated and rely on herd immunity (which requires roughly 75-94% vaccination depending on the virus) so that they don’t get severely ill.
    And secondly you don’t inject vaccinations into your child’s blood. If you have a dr that wants to do that they I don’t blame you for not trusting them. Almost all vaccinations are intramuscular and the ones that aren’t (like polio) are given orally…

    April 27th, 2013 10:10 am Reply
  • Rachel

    I’m quite jaded by medical professionals because of many personal experiences, however I see that there is a time and place for medical intervention. My only wish is that Drs weren’t so narrow-minded when it comes to alternative medicine. A bunch of folks keep saying that Drs did after all go to medical school, but they’re practicing what they were taught so in effect it’s not completely their fault. I am surprised how few physicians truly study nutrition other then a a couple dietary classes. I’m convinced our diet has more to do with our health then anything else. But who am I right-I didn’t go to med school. Medicine is an evolving science. They’ve been wrong before and that’s fine. Just have the humility to admit it and not make complete blanket statements about us foolish crazy non-vaccinating public.

    April 30th, 2013 11:52 am Reply
  • Sarah Sweet

    Whoa! this must of been written by someone that doesn’t know anything. I’ve had every single vaccine that should be given to a child and I have never had an adverse effect to any. My baby will also receive every vaccine that his/her pediatrician recommends. There is no logical prove that vaccines cause cancer, autism, etc. Kids who are vaccinated are some of the healthiest kids verses those kids who are un-vaccinated. I don’t want my child(ren) to be surrounded by other kids who are caring deadly diseases. Polio, smallpox, mumps, measles and other illnesses have been virtually eliminated in the developed nations, because of vaccines…now that parents are choosing to not vaccinated their child(ren) these disease are slowly going to return and kill children. Now i understand that some cant get them because of allergies, but not getting your kids vaccinated for shits and giggles is straight up dumb!! VACCINATE YOUR CHILDREN OR KEEP THEM AWAY FROM OTHER KIDS!

    May 2nd, 2013 4:04 am Reply
    • Emily

      Finally someone is talking sense on this post! thank you Sarah Sweet for being level-headed and understanding the importance of vaccines. To all you people who don’t vaccinate their children, you do not understand the risk you are placing your own children at and the children around them are also put at risk by your stupid decisions. It is the 21st century and many life-threatening diseases have died out in the Western world due to VACCINES! Screw your head on straight and start looking after the health of your children and others around them.

      May 6th, 2013 4:59 am Reply
  • Davanee wahlquist

    Do you have to breastfeed if you don’t vaccinate? I’m worried I won’t produce enough milk… Please clarify so I can rest. Some say to breast feed then til 2.. I don’t know about this.. Help??
    Thanks in advance,

    May 2nd, 2013 10:09 am Reply
  • katie

    So …. have you ever stopped and asked yourself why so many people are falling victim to cancer, autism etc…. ? because no body ever seems to ask that question!
    I am not saying vaccines are on their own responsible for these diseases BUT i am 100% certain they are a major contributing factor.
    Just the comment ‘kids that are vaccinated are amongst some of the healthiest kids versus those that are unvaccinated just shows you have no idea what you are talking about, vaccinations are not intended to make you healthier…. they are intended to reduce the risk of serious health complications occurring from contracting the disease the vaccination is intended for but anyone who knows two bits about vaccines will know that the vaccinations are not 100% affective even when they cause no side effects which i am sure is very rare.
    Don’t say you know no one who has had side effects or lasting damage from a vaccine, how many people do you know with learning problems, low immune systems, etc…. etc… i could go on for ever.
    It is a fact that vaccines contain substances KNOWN to cause long lasting sometimes permanent damage to the body and the brain not to mention the link between SIDS.
    Our ever growing disease riddled population is not caused by the few parents who have the balls to not vaccinate their kids but by ‘our’ awful lifestyle choices…
    Vaccines, artificial sweeteners, preservatives, overuse of antibiotics, painkillers, other manmade drugs, refined sugars, processed meats, mobile phones, wireless signals, pesticides, chemicals in cleaners make-up and other beauty products.
    The way to stay healthy is to avoid these things and you can bet that non vaccinated kids are exposed to these things far less than ‘most’ vaccinated kids because the parents are aware of the damages that can be caused, so to say vaccinated kids are healthier is ridiculous!

    May 13th, 2013 12:38 pm Reply
  • Hillary Tabah

    Geez! I WOULD LOVE some advice on this vaccination topic … I am heading to Central America for 3 months come September, (I am 23 years old & following the Weston A Price diet pretty much completely, I use the 80/20 rule though :) ) and I have been told I need about 6 or 7 vaccinations plus malaria meds. Something inside me is giving me a bad feeling about getting all of these vaccinations to go traveling (plus they are about 60-70$ a pop!!!) but they are MANDATORY and I don’t have any doctor I truly trust who can give me a different opinion. Since I will most likely not be able to travel without these vaccines, do you recommend I take any precautions to protect myself from any harmful side effects of such a huge chemical dose at once? My last vaccine was H1N1, I was furious after receiving it as I had a very very unpleasant experience & pain for about a year after at the injection site (super weird & scary). Anyone’s opinion would be insanely appreciated. I’m needing Hep A, Hep B, typhoid fever, tetanus, Yellow Fever, and they reccommend RABIES and MALARIA! NUTS!
    Thank you so much & Blessings to all.

    May 14th, 2013 2:45 pm Reply
    • Estremadura

      1./ Where are you going exactly in South America?
      Are you going to be exposed to extreme circumstances far from civilization?

      If you are going as a tourist or will be there otherwise living a normal life /not drinking from contaminated water, working with infectious people etc../ you will be as if you were at home! They could recommend Hep A at home.. typhoid is very very rare, like a medieval ages epidemic when sewege and drinking water could flow together.. or when they could not bury thousands of dead bodies on battle fields for weeks and months..
      Tetanus: if you stab yourself, of someone stabs you with a long sharp object especially if it is rusty…. you should run to get one,,, but this might happen at home too..or if you get injured around animal feces…. you should getone
      Malaria: Only in season, when itis warm enogh.. andnow winter is beginning in the Sothern hemisphere,,,,, the mosquitos which potentially carry malaria /mosquito anopheles/ just like any other mosquitos, do like warm wet areas, and are activ only a fewhours in the evening /just like good old word moscitos in Europe…/ mainly at dusk between 7-10 PM. Ifyou are in such a warm wet area, in the evening use long sleeves, and long pants and some mosquito repellent.. nothing else. The same will protect you from yellow fever!

      I have been doing touroperation to some African countries. and have been there several times, neither myself, family and clients never ever encountered any health problems…. though urge is always stronge to get a load of vaccines if you call a doctor’s office!!!

      Finally, there is no COMPULSORY vaccination….. that is bullshit! Why would they care if tourists/visitors are vaccinated at all????

      Hope I could help

      May 14th, 2013 7:06 pm Reply
      • Hillary Tabah

        Hi Estremadura,
        Thank you for your amazingly helpful reply. I will probably be heading to every country in Central America and possibly Venezuela and Peru (but have already been to Venezuela 2 times without any needed vaccines).
        I have done my Heb B, and have done one round of Hep A from a trip to Brazil a few years ago, so I’m thinking I will just do my second dose of Hep A to get it over and done with and that’s it. I will be traveling as a tourist, not working with animals or anything specific, I’ll probably be in small beach towns but I will, like you said, be living mostly like I do at home! Drinking bottled water and such.
        I think i’ll also skip the Malaria meds, and just take caution for the mosquitos. I have some recipes for homemade bug repellent so i’ll make sure I take plenty along with me as well as long pants and long sleeved shirts.
        I am actually planning to contact the embassies of each country just to double check and see if anything is MANDATORY, and if not, i’ll just complete my Hep A.
        Also, the travel clinic told me I’ll be needing a RABIES vaccine since I will be doing such “long term” travel. Ridiculous right? Even more ridiculous is that it costs about 350$!!!!

        May 15th, 2013 9:22 am Reply
        • estremadura

          Dear Hillary!!!!

          You rare welcome!

          Well.. there is no one standing at the port of entry checking for vaccination records of wealthy foreign tourists! And as you mention you are going to be a tourist , living and spending time at a highere life standard than 90% ofthe locals….. Venezuela has got luxury resorts, you won’tbe going into the “favellas” other than indiginous people millions of Europeans , Spanish, Italian, Germans etc do live there long term and don’t get vaccinated.
          I guess Peru because of the high elevations is going to be cold. so no mosquitos can survive! I wonder if any “drug pusher” doctor has mentioned an existing danger in Peru, however. And that is rare oxygen! One of my father’s friend, an engineer from Finland died there, his heart stopped.. and my childhood dentist died in Tibet… again the same, her heart stopped at extreme elevations /for her/ So she is having her eternal sleep on the high plateus of Tibet.. closest to the Gods!

          Rabies is ridiculous… the feral cat population and racoons in the US at our doorstep is more dangerous as far as rabies is concerned!

          May 15th, 2013 12:02 pm Reply
  • Jeannine

    I have heard and seen this so many times about how getting your kids shot’s can hurt them. I just got my son’s 2 month shot’s but am nervous to get him anymore. 5 all at once is so much plus all the crap that is in them. Anyhow if i choose to not get him anymore is it bad because he already had his 2 month shot’s?

    June 13th, 2013 5:43 pm Reply
  • julia

    Hallo. I have 2 children.6 and 2. I did vaccination on both of them. As my son got his 9 month vaccination he was very sick after 2 weeks. He got ITP from the vaccination and almost died. Since then I stopped vaccination my children.

    June 18th, 2013 1:24 am Reply
  • Mearcatt

    i take extreme issue with you point #3 here. SHAME ON YOU for continuing to add fuel to the “vaccinations cause autism” fire. how many times does it have to be said that that “dr.” who published those “findings” has had his medical license REVOKED and the paper DISPROVEN because the “findings” were falsified and not accurate? i take a lot of issue with this whole article, but today i’m just going to point this out. again, SHAME on you, people out there are still blind enough to read this and fall back into this cycle regarding vaccinations and autism that shouldn’t even exist.

    July 2nd, 2013 2:49 pm Reply
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  • Patrick

    “Update since this post was written: Vaccinated children are found to be more chronically ill than unvaccinated children with rates for autism, ear infections, ADHD, asthma and allergies as much as 30% higher than unvaxed children.”

    Are you serious? That is some of the most biased, useless research I have ever seen. I don’t trust pharmaceutical companies but at least their research is better than that.

    July 22nd, 2013 8:31 am Reply
    • estremadura

      We don’t have to believe any statistics, findings, reports, papers etc… we only have to trust our own practical,empirical observations and direct experience, and in higher knowledge than every day news.. In general, information being poured on us from any sort of main stream media outlet, and from major institutions of society, including political, cultural, economical, judicial etc establishment, including medical, health care field, is heavily influenced and dominated by diverse interest groups ! We have no chance to control the cards they are playing with! Therefore we have to return to good old ways believing what we observe, in our own life and community we have some sort of personal control of…..Science what we trusted in the last 150 years-has already lost the drive to try to serve humanity, and at it;’s present form it is predominantly serving only a few human’s interest, Institutions are lying, politicians, bankers etc..why should we blindly believe in the medical establishment?
      When I was growing up, in a European country , we had very few vax back then, our parents, grandparents hardly had any….they were and they are well living into their 80’s 90’s. While now vaccinated children are having a bunch of chronic diseases… and we still don’t see the end of the tunnel. Namely how long they are going to live, not even mentioning the fact that conditions from an early age corrected by medications will lead to further medications, what is everything but not health. This medical adventure, what was good and positive a while ago, to prevent illnesses is turning into it’s own opposite.. now an individual , who is healthy would benefit more not even going to doctors.Life of humanity revolves around thesis-anti thesis.Time is ripe again for a major shift in mentality!

      October 28th, 2013 12:53 pm Reply
    • mark

      maybe its a study containing two people 😛

      December 28th, 2013 10:31 am Reply
  • Tatiana

    Hi I was wondering what should I do if I’ve already vaccinated my child? He’s not done with all the shots but they’ve given him plenty! I feel like a horrible mother for not even thinking about doing research on this!

    August 11th, 2013 9:39 am Reply
  • Sinthy

    Hi Sarah,

    Most schools & daycares require vaccinations. Is there a way around this if I choose not to vaccinate my child? How did you deal with this?


    August 13th, 2013 4:57 pm Reply
    • W

      My 2 year old received vaccines up to now but after research, I want to opt out of any future vaccines. My doctor was PUSHING vaccines that were already done, over again, and for new ones early, I said no way and was forced to sign a paper to opt out. This document was just to get a OK health document for my son to receive surgery with a tooth pull. When signing the ‘refusal to vaccinate’ form you are agreeing that you are ‘endangering the health or life of my child and others’.

      I did not have my glasses with me when I signed the form and was furious with myself later. Considering going back to the doctor having that document destoryed for something better written:

      The other day I received a document from his nursery school asking to complete a medical report including list of vaccines report, and I know the doctor will probably write something about my recent ‘opt-out’ for vaccines. I am worried about the reaction of the nursery school, don’t want to make waves, but seriously think vaccines are risky.

      August 13th, 2013 11:36 pm Reply
  • Mariann Parlin

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    August 14th, 2013 5:27 pm Reply
  • Jason

    The thing is, there’s a reason why nature deals out diseases and illnesses: natural selection. To me, the scariest thing we humans do is resist natural selection. Sad as it may be, Mother Nature kills children for a purpose – keep the healthiest alive. Make no mistake, she will find a way to remove the sickest kids – if it’s not Polio or Chicken Pox (!) then it will be Bird Flu (uh, remember that?) or some unknown sickness for which there will be NO vaccine. We vaccinate, as has been shown by many comments here, out of FEAR; fear of the unknown, or fear of the known (death), whichever. I wouldn’t tell anyone whether they need to vaccinate or not, but I would advise that when She wants you, and she will, Mother Nature will take vast numbers and she will start with the low-hanging fruit, children. She will know how to take our kids, but we will not know her method until afterwards. My take on vaccinations is this: take a deep breath, hope for the best, prepare for the worst (in your own way) and then go have some ice cream with the little ones. Anything else is guesswork against a far more experienced opponent.

    August 14th, 2013 8:05 pm Reply
    • estremadura

      Agree….. a friend of mine, who is a big name obstetrician and gynecologist,already in his 60’s /somewhere in eastern Europe/ where people are much more honest and straightforward, always have been saying that children who are “prepared: well are going to do well… we don’t have to do anything with them.. those “who are prepared with sorrow” will be ill and ill again, even if the wind blows from the wrong direction”..

      December 9th, 2013 6:43 pm Reply
  • Dan

    You state that you need to research, yet your 2nd contention is all hype and baseless fear. You are stating how there are all these “chemicals” and poisons that you don’t know about and stuff that sounds scary. Yet to you, who probably has never worked as a pharmacist, doctor, or any major related to chemistry to judge the mixtures they put into vaccines is simply baseless. Your actions don’t only impact yourself, you are harming those who cannot get vaccines due to medical conditions, these people rely on herd immunization, that everybody else is vaccinated so they don’t get sick so you are indirectly harming these people and I’m asking you to stop. Your 4th argument is about how nobody “you” know gets sick etc. etc… however, the average human establishes 100 intimate connections with individuals giving you an extremely small sample size. Also please realize how unscientifically sound “your” experience is, before you start spreading unfounded fears about vaccines, please take your own advice and do more research.

    August 24th, 2013 1:36 am Reply
  • Vicki B

    I am 70 years old and had only a few vaccines in my life back in the ’50s. I have 4 non vaccinated kids who have always been healthy. I have grandkids who are non vaccinated and now even grt-grandkids who are not. I have a healthy family. Doctors are still trying to get me to take the flu shot and several other shots but I say NO every time. It scares the hell out of me when I see all the shots they are pumping into kids today.

    September 6th, 2013 9:35 am Reply
  • Marrissia

    The reality is all of the diseases come from the vaccinations themselves, trust me I went through that personally and I will never i repeat never let my children get any kind of shot because your body was created to get rid of any diseases or anything harmful to the body.
    This article is factual not bias and the ones saying that they’re bias are in fact the ones being bias.

    September 7th, 2013 7:48 pm Reply
    • mark

      do you know what bias means?
      the fact that Sarah is only supporting anti-vax views is biased, the fact that people complain about this isn’t.

      December 28th, 2013 10:35 am Reply
  • molly

    What do you think of the PPD vaccine/test for tuberculosis? Is this also pumped up with toxins that cause new diseases?

    September 30th, 2013 6:37 pm Reply
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  • Stephanie

    The question to why studies aren’t being done to compare vaccinated children to non-vaccinated children could be as simple as: it’s like comparing apples and oranges. Unless you sort out family traits, chromosomes, specific blood issues, it would be impossible to compare the two! How can a comparison be made when there are so many things to take into consideration? To just state because the one would blow the other one away is crap.

    October 5th, 2013 11:02 am Reply
  • Wayne Rooney

    I say yes to vacination because without it you could die of an infectious diease or spread it

    October 8th, 2013 7:07 am Reply
    • estremadura

      No.. you can not die of chicken pox…, or measles or rubela, or mumps.. I had all.. all my generation had them all…. no one died…, what happens with this carriage load of vaccines they are pushing now, is that kids might not have the disease they are vaccinating for/ some of them still does… but THEY CONTRACT ALL OTHER CONDITIONS! Meaning, constant upper respiratory infections, constant cold symptoms, and this is best case scenario.. what about asthma…. childhood diabetes, all sort of allergies to literally anything and everything. we did not even know these words…..usually they won’t tell you that there are children who die of asthma attacks, child hood diabetes won’t contribute to a long healthy life, simply said they DIE YOUNG after a miserable life! And I am not even mentioning tons of autoimmune diseases/ when and where the immune system , which is “bored” as not having it’s regular job is TURNING AGAINST ITSELF, creating nasty conditions….. and don’ even mention child hood and young age cancer…. heck no! THANK YOU NO! Rather chicken pox, rubela…..all my relatives in “poor” Eastern European villages lived well into their 80’s and 90;s, o only seeing a doctor when riding his horse or later his bicycle of course they were not vaccinated! Other than that, usually no one thinks about… but in “poor” Eastern european villages /95 % of population lived there/ there were no contagious epidemics, plague etc……. WHY????? Because of the settlement structure , fresh air, and not many people under same roof, or behind city walls……… epidemics ALWAYS spread when lots of people are squeezed together with poor sanitation or in closed environment/ classrooms etc/ WELCOME TO THIS MODERN WORLD, the best of all!!!! Medicine now creates more problems, than it resolves…….. just like politics…no surprise, because they are heavily related!

      December 9th, 2013 7:10 pm Reply
      • Andy Hall

        Lies, people have died from that. Go read the CDC website.

        January 18th, 2014 12:20 am Reply
        • Dave

          Death wipes out a persons life, and this would happen more often to the aged and malnourished who acquire these diseases.

          But vaccine injuries give healthy kids, from childhood, an entire lifetime of living with incurable conditions like Gullian-Barr syndrome, Autism, various forms of brain damage, neurological, and the list goes on.
          Do the math – weigh the risk yourself, a disease that has short term problems that the individual can shorten and lessen by his own efforts, or a lifetime injury with which one has no choice but to accept lifelong impairments to ones life, dreams, health.
          And who is doing the lying, when those who receive legal judgements against vaccine manufacturers are required to sign statements that they will not publicize the cause of their children’s maladies. This misrepresents the truth about vaccines to the public. That’s a lie in anyone’s vocabulary.

          June 12th, 2014 7:47 pm Reply
      • stephen

        the thing is, if you get a “non deadly” disease it can lower your immune system and make you more likely to get a deadly disease

        May 26th, 2014 1:28 am Reply
  • Miss Rachel

    I’m slightly offended that you say that nonvaxed kids are healthier overall. All of the children in my family were vaccinated, cousins, aunts, uncles, etc. And we are all healthy and had proper nourishment as children. My sisters and I played soccer and softball in school and rarely missed school. I missed more because I had ear infections due to mt eustation tubes not forming properly. I feel vaccines are a double edge sword. Yes they helped eradicate some dangerous diseases from the world, but they come in yucky goop. I don’t think there is as strong a correlation between autism and vaccines. I think our use of vaccines coensided with the medical worlds ability to recognize autism as more than someone who is retarded, schitzofrenic, or insane, or has a cold, unloving mother. I think that was all coincidence. Maybe the best cure to any disease is to just become a vampire.

    October 9th, 2013 2:48 am Reply
  • Teresa Jones

    Not safe

    October 10th, 2013 4:46 pm Reply
  • Beth

    My friend was given a hard time by her doctor for not getting the meningitis vaccine for her young daughter. A very short time later he daughter came down with meningitis. Very serious. The doctor ended up apologizing to her, He said if she would have gotten the vaccine her immune system probably wouldn’t have been able to fight off the actual disease (because it was dealing with the vaccine), and the little girl probably would have died.
    There are risks both ways. The best thing to do is educate ourselves. Make a decision, and support each other even if we don’t agree with each others end decisions.

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  • Sheila

    Unfortunately, there are so many studies out there that are biased. There are many interesting points made on both sides of this argument. In a scientific study to find out true cause and effect relationships, it is my understanding that the groups being compared must be the same with the exception of the variable being studied. I am guessing the parents (as a whole) who are choosing to not vaccinate their children are very careful with their children’s diets and lifestyles. I am speculating here based off the many, many comments about the organic diets and healthy lifestyles these parents cite. Are the studies comparing overall health of vax/nonvax children comparing children who are eating the same healthy diets? Just curious. If it is only looking at the general population, I would think there would be too many other factors to make a causal determination. I would truly be interested in the results of a study that did compare children who other than vaccinations live similar lifestyles. Of course, I know that all factors would not be the same because genetics play a role in our health too.

    October 31st, 2013 9:59 am Reply
    • estremadura

      “Scientific” is an alias of propaganda now days. Those so called scientific studies are written as how the corporation paying for them wants them to be written. Winston Churchill’s words are very much true about statistics and researches: “I only believe in statistics, I falsified myself”. Let’s rely on common sense, direct verifiable evidence, what we see and experience.. and what our forefathers have directly experienced. Unfortunately , we still believe that science is serving the benefit of humans.. look around.. !

      December 29th, 2013 2:28 pm Reply
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  • Estremadura

    It is not productive to be lost in statistics….Churchill sad.. ” I only believe in statistics, what I falsified myself”.. it tells everything. The best approach in life is the “sound minded peasant” approach what is based on hundred and thousand years of DIRECT observation and experience, not governed by any institutional interest!
    And this wisdom teaches us, that too much interference in the course of nature, natural progress, is ALWAYS HARMFUL, even if it APPEARS to be good in fact it isn’t. Modern medicine is interfering way too much, science became a new religion what we the “subjects: are supposed to believe in blindly, if not we are heretics…. When we have to take the risk of having a potential illness taking it’s good old natural course /what mankind knows for thousands of years/ or to take the chance of contracting largely unknown degenerative diseases as a side effect of too much intervention in order to “prevent” everything…I rather take the good old method….” THE KNOWN BAD IS ALWAYS BETTER THAN THE UNKNOWN GOOD”

    November 8th, 2013 12:45 pm Reply
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  • Adam C.

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    November 11th, 2013 11:30 am Reply
  • The Modern Pioneer Mom

    For anyone who thinks vaccines are good and safe, and think us non-vaxing parents are out of our mind… PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE look at this website!!! Stop judging us & considering us stupid & uneducated!

    November 12th, 2013 8:53 pm Reply
    • Rachel

      That is a blog! Please please PLEASE read some scientific journals on the subject of vaccination and base your decisions on impartial, peer-reviewed, randomised-control-trial evidence!

      January 29th, 2014 12:23 pm Reply
    • DB

      The person who conducted this internet research (not real research) is a naturopathic “doctor”. She said vaccines can’t eradicate diseases, so…. where did the variola virus that caused smallpox go….. hmmm weird. Don’t tell me it was mother nature. If you really want to educate yourself go find an article that has been peer-reviewed by other scientist and entered in a scientific journal, anything else is nonsense.

      February 14th, 2014 4:26 pm Reply
  • diane

    I hope your relatives/children will develop the illness that can be prevented by vaccines and suffer the consequences..and I really like to read you blogging about the suffering..

    November 12th, 2013 11:37 pm Reply
    • estremadura

      Dear Diane!
      Thank you for all your good wishes! really heart felt! As someone who contracted all the vaccine preventable diseases, I am happy. Chicken pox, measles,rubeola, mumps..all between age 3-6, with no side effects. My whole generation did go through the same….. once we entered school, at age 6-7 , we were healthy no degenerative “conditions”, no allergies /we didn’t even know they existed/, no child hood cancer, diabetes, ADHD and stuff like that. Maybe those good old childhood diseases do have a role..and we should not consider them as enemies , usually there is always something good in the bad and vice versa! Human intervention into the course of nature for the first sight might bring partial temporary results.. but medium term, long term they will be more harm than benefit, and a source of human suffering.
      So, if I could go back in time… would opt for all of the “preventable” diseases versus all degenerative conditions now crippling generations for the rest of their lives. Mankind’s liaison with science for the last 40-50 years is becoming more of a “dance macabre” more destruction than construction. Medicine in particular could not come up with real cure for illnesses, therefore attention is targeted toward the healthy population.. but health as my mother language says is “egészség” meaning completeness, wholeness, having everythingthat can not be enhanced ….

      November 13th, 2013 1:03 pm Reply
      • Jake

        It seems interesting to me that you link cancer, diabetes, ADHD, “degenerative diseases”, and allergies all to vaccines. Where is the proof of this? Seeing as how we don’t know what causes cancer yet, it seems to me that you should be informing the CDC so that they can get right on stopping vaccine production and start destroying cancer. The question I’d actually like to ask, is isn’t possible that these “degenerative diseases”, (assuming you mean Autism Spectrum Disorders and others like that?), are more commonly found now because there are more people on the planet and modern medicine is an ever advancing science? Maybe we see Autism more commonly in kids these days because it has gone from a rigid one lane disease to an entire spectrum of disorders ranging from severe to mild.

        This whole page seems strange to me. With a child of my own on the way, whether or not I trust the big Pharmaceutical companies is irrelevant to me. Would I rather have a child develop Autism from a Polio vaccination, or contract Polio and end up paralyzed for life, or worse die from the disease.

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        Or better yet, we could all stop talking out of our asses and think about our children. Take out the fear, take out the anxiety, and think with a clear head. Telling someone you hope their relatives catch these horrible preventable disease is not a correct, smart, or down right okay response. But claiming that because you and your friend group happened to survive without any negative repercussions from these diseases is evidence enough to stop vaccinating altogether is just as ludicrous. We divide on an issue that would be better solved together, and thus Albert Einstein remains correct.

        “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” – Albert Einstein.

        December 4th, 2013 12:13 pm Reply
        • estremadura

          The proof is direct personal experience, and other experience , I can verify the source and . truthfulness of, as well as essence of direct experiences of sociocultural communities,'”Kis mértékben gyógyszer, nagy mértékben méreg” alias “small quantity healing, big quantity killing” or “Jóból is megárt a sok” “too much of any good shall be harmful” Today’s trend of medical intervention is outrageously over any level headed limits, including vaccines, medicating everything, doing surgeries etc……Mankind’s ideologies constantly revolve in an endless hamster wheel of THESIS-ANTITHESIS and finally a SYNTHESIS.. applied for medicine: thesis: no enough cure, medicines. antithesis: too much medicines, natural progress is over medicalized…. this is where western medicine is at right now. We have fallen on the other side of the horse, slowly but steadily creating more problems that we had before. Next phase is the SYNTHESIS, and efforts to correct balance has started now, but of course who are interested in present status quo are doing everything in the name of “science” to ridicule those who dare to question. HUMAN INTERVENTION into the course of nature regardless it’s a biosphere a habitat, or human body, for a certain period in a limited amount can be beneficial for humans, but if it goes on too long applied too much, the result has been and shall be failure or disaster. And this is a much higher rule than research paper writing. Einstein, Oppenheimer, Edward Teller, John Neumann etc all realized that though they ventured as deep down in the”materia” as no one before,they could not find the answer.. they were looking for. They were everything but religious, but all concluded that there are higher universal rules “higher intelligence” as Einstein said what “runs the show” and science is a dwarf doomed to fail and fail over and over again! Einstein definitely did not consider universal, cosmological “higher” predicaments to be stupid and ignorant.. rather ignoring them!!!!

          December 12th, 2013 12:43 pm Reply
      • Cate

        You’re lying through your teeth.

        December 8th, 2013 1:49 am Reply
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    November 22nd, 2013 12:56 am Reply
    • Rachel

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      January 29th, 2014 5:11 pm Reply
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    November 22nd, 2013 9:29 am Reply
  • jay

    I have been vaccinated and im pretty sure I am healthy and never get sick. I do think the vaccinations were a little bit better in the 90s then it is now. Well it seems that way in my eyes. But I don’t get the flu vaccine! nope! my body can’t handle it.

    November 27th, 2013 8:00 pm Reply
  • Jodi Doss

    Hi, i have been trying to decide if i should vaccinate my children when I do decide to have them. Some websites say you should and others say you shouldnt. I just dont know what to do. So if you can be totally honest and let me know your thoughts. Also what are the risks if you dont vaccinate?

    December 2nd, 2013 10:05 pm Reply
    • Cate

      If you care about your kids and others,VACCINATE!! If not, don’t bother with antibiotics, either, since you don’t believe in medicine. Sorry if I sound angry, but that’s because I AM!! My nephew has whooping cough, which was almost eradicated but is now making a comeback thanks to morons who don’t vaccinate. We are losing our blanket immunity and in my opinion, this is a public health issue and shouldn’t be optional.

      December 8th, 2013 1:47 am Reply
    • Rachel

      Every legitimate medical source around advises vaccinations for children! They are so important. The risks if you don’t vaccinate are that your child could contract a serious illness. Measles, mumps, meningitis C, diptheria, tetnaus, polio, rubella… the complications of all of these are so much more serious than any mild side effects you may temporarily experience from having a vaccine.

      You don’t have to believe me, but look at some of the big healthcare entities in the world – the World Health Organisation, the FDA, key journals like Nature or the BMJ.

      I am being totally honest when I say that I would 100% vaccinate your children. The arguments against just don’t have enough scientific backing. Even the article that started the original MMR scare has since been retracted by the author.

      January 29th, 2014 5:08 pm Reply
      • Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist

        You don’t make decisions for my children or anyone else’s. You have no right to force the injection of toxins into anyone’s body except your own. What you are suggesting is the violation of a person’s biological rights. Absolutely frightening the lengths people will go to forcing their will and their view of the world on others.

        January 29th, 2014 5:41 pm Reply
        • Rachel

          Sorry Sarah, I think you must have misinterpreted what I meant. Of course I wouldn’t pin anybody down and vaccinate them against their wishes, that’s unethical. The person who wrote this comment was asking for honest opinions about vaccination, and all that I meant was that I’m 100% behind the opinion that vaccination is a good thing – If I was in their situation I definitely would.

          Sorry if that was misinterpreted as me planning to violate human and biological rights!

          January 30th, 2014 10:00 am Reply
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  • Anonymous

    I don’t care what anyone else thinks. I want to live and I care about living, and I WILL vaccinate! ‘Nuff said.

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