Nurses Refuse Immunization Despite Pertussis Outbreak

by Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist April 24, 2012

In the United States, if a nurse who works with infants refuses even one of the vaccinations mandated for healthcare workers, his/her job would quickly be on the line.

In other countries, however, the right of healthcare workers to reject vaccination is still respected even in the midst of a localized outbreak of whooping cough where the nurses’ job is to inject newborns with the pertussis vaccine day in and day out.

This exact scenario was described in the Journal Vaccine, which reported that in the summer of 2010, 20 nurses and doctors in the neonatal and OB departments in a large hospital is Haifa, Israel were diagnosed with pertussis.

The Israeli Minister of Health recommended vaccination of all healthcare workers in the affected departments as well as 2 other nearby hospitals.  In addition, all the nurses who staffed Mother and Child Healthcare Centers in that district and worked with infants were asked vaccinate themselves.

While pertussis vaccines have been routinely used in pediatric practice for 60 years, an adult pertussis vaccine was only recently developed in 2005 with a single dose recommended by the CDC in 2006.

Three months after the Minister of Health’s directive, it was noted that only 2% of nurses working in the Mother and Child Healthcare Centers had actually vaccinated themselves.

Why such a shocking rate of noncompliance?

This study only recently released online, found that the 98% rate of noncompliance by nurses working with infants in the district where the pertussis outbreak was occurring was due to a very low rate of trust in health authorities particularly following the worldwide H1N1 debacle.

In addition, these nurses did not view themselves as vaccination “role models” for the public and demanded the right to choose whether or not to accept the pertussis vaccination for themselves.

Noncompliant nurses also expressed fear of new vaccines and identified safety issues as a concern which are typically dismissed as invalid and viewed by conventional health authorities as mere “misconceptions”.

The Journal reported that the nurses feltthe risk of contracting the diseases and the severity were not worth the risk of being injected with a vaccine that was not in use long enough to know what the side effects were.  This was directed towards both influenza and pertussis vaccines, and they felt the authorities were using them as guinea pigs.”

Many of the nurses also strongly disagreed with the Minister of Health’s recommendation to vaccinate themselves stating that they did not want to be told what to do and wanted to make decisions regarding their body for themselves.

One nurse said:

“what are we?- in Soviet Russia?. . .on principle I am not getting vaccinated this year.”

The conclusion of the study identified a high rate of anti-vaccine sentiment among the nurses and that these attitudes may have indeed played a role in their noncompliance with the Minister of Health’s recommendations.

It was recommended that “additional lies research and interventions to increase fear trust between nurses and the authorities and propaganda knowledge regarding vaccines is needed.”

It seems that Israeli nurses know their rights and are willing to stand up for their freedoms much more readily than healthcare workers elsewhere in the Western world.

Indeed, for healthcare workers in the United States, Soviet Russia has already arrived with the “vaccinate or it’s your job” mentality although a rare few have had success refusing required jabs by standing on their religious beliefs.

 

Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

Source:  Vaccine 30 (2012) 3151— 3154

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Comments (53)

  1. The only time I have ever gotten the flu was the first year I started working at a rural hospital here in Ohio. I was terribly sick for months as were others in our office who also received the vax. From that year forward I dodged the vaccine cart which came in during off shifts for late workers and stood my ground to my boss who pushed us hard to all receive the needle. The only way I was able to dodge it for so long was that my department was contracted through a non-healthcare company and we weren’t high on the hospital’s priority list. Thank goodness for being overlooked!

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  2. The people who got vaccinated for the flu are the people who actually came down with the flu. I asked people specifically if they were vaccinated or not. One person worked for a pharmacy. My mom got vaccinated for the flu for the first time in her life–81 years–and guess what? She got the flu for the first time in her life. She had a hard time getting over it. She said that she would never get that dangerous shot again. What are they trying to do to us with that vaccine–give people the flu? It’s scary.

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  3. Well same thing for children entering school… They must be up to date on their vaccines. I for one believe in the vaccines that have been proven to save more lives than disrupt. I do not do the flu shot, not do I have my kids have it. Vaccines are beneficial to a lot of newborns and there are a lot of diseases we dn’t see anymore because of these vaccines. However, this whooping cough vaccine, I don’t see why if you have already had the vaccine do you need it again? Just like anything, some people are prone to coming down with diseases and sicknesses easier than others. To each their own if you aren’t in healthcare or teaching. Nurses are around a lot of people and they can be carriers, just like teachers…. They have to have their vaccines too. This is a very important topic to many, but I believe that most vaccines do more good than harm.

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  4. The state of contemporary medicine is absolutely tragic.

    I’m a premed student who has spent a great deal of her summer researching real foods, traditional cultures, the fallacies of conventional thinking on health/drug/food issues, etc. It has been enlightening, to say the least. My desire is (or, I suppose, was) to become a pediatrician practicing *real* medicine based on the *real* science I’ve gradually been learning about. A pediatrician who actively questions conventional thinking and cares about her patients healing and thriving, not merely about padding her pockets with big pharma drug money. However, this afternoon, upon reading this article and in particular Sara-the-would-be-RN’s comment, I was struck by the most devastating realization: medical schools require “immunizations.” (What a silly term.) And I absolutely refuse to inject any more of those poisons in my body. I’m 19 and in good health, despite having received the standard childhood vaccines (not to mention a diet loaded with wheat and HFCS), and I intend to do everything in my power to keep it that way.

    Anyway, this is a very crucial decision for me, and it appears I will have to do some necessary reevaluating of my future goals. It’s difficult to accept that I likely will not become a physician, as it’s something I’ve dreamed of since I was a child. However, I am currently researching other venues for satisfying my passion for human biology, nutrition, health, and vitality, and one thing is clear: there is a wealth of other possibilities out there.

    Sorry for the novel. Thank you for the article, and thank you for the blog.

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  5. That is an interesting situation and one that I personally agree with (foregoing vaccination, or at least the choice) however, around patients, especially babies, hmmmmm I am on the fence.

    I think it is their obligation to be vaccinated.

    Leif

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  6. “what are we?- in Soviet Russia?…” I was there and US is getting close to it. We were dragged by teachers and nurses to an office to get a shot in my school. My parents never new about it and no one asked them if they wanted their kids to get a vaccine ever. I had bad reactions to flu all the time until I became nearly disabled then my doctor ordered to leave me along. I am still not well and I wonder if I ever be in good health. This is what can happen here too. Resist now or it will be to late.

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  7. So many diseases are contagious before symptoms even begin to show up, so telling people to stay home if they’re sick is a bit akin to closing the barn door after the horses have left. In general I border on libertarian ideals with regard to vaccinations and healthcare, HOWEVER if I were the parent of a wee one battling an immune-compromising disease I think it would be irresponsible for the people caring for my child to not take as many precautions as possible to protect the very children they are treating. Hospitals are already rife with contagions, the last thing we need is unwitting caregivers further compromising the patients environment.

    We make many decisions in life, and each has a consequence. If someone is seriously opposed to standard vaccinations then there are a number of countries they should be careful about visiting and there are some jobs they should reconsider careers in.

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  8. Previous “severe” reaction to a vaccine is a contraindication to additional vaccinations. As an immunization clinic supervisor (at the time, very on-the-fence about vax, certainly very anti-vax for myself), I learned very quickly what previous allergic reactions were an easy, medically-sound, LEGAL option to waive vax requirements.

    I now work for WIC, and have a statement on file that basically says that I have previous severe reactions to vaccines (Yeah, I was the baby with inconsolable crying for >72hours EVERY TIME I GOT the pertussis vax as a baby…). I do not include in the letter my life-threatening allergy to latex (often present or not guaranteed free of – in multi-dose vials and some pre-loaded syringes of some vaxs). I state in the letter that should the local *municipalities* issue OFFICIAL statements that ALL public health workers/ALL persons working in positions related to mine be vaccinated or not report to work, that I be provided the opportunity to work from home, in a limited capacity, or in an area where I do not interact with public/clients. ONLY when there are ABSOLUTELY NO OPTIONS for non-contact employment will I be placed on administrative leave. My employer now is aware that I am very anti-vax, but as long as I continue to do my job (asking if children are up to date on vax and referring to their MD if not), my beliefs are not a problem.

    We are currently in quite the pertussis wave here – and I really try to teach hygiene rather than discussing vax – if you’re sick, STAY home!

    One of these days, folks are going to realize that US healthcare is just one big money-making scheme… that’s in bed with the USDA and the FDA…. ::::sigh:::::

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  9. I live in Texas & used to work at WIC as a breastfeeding peer counselor, I refused vaccinations & was no longer allowed to be employed there. Broke my heart as I loved what I was doing.

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  10. I vaxed my son until age 3, because by that time I had learned to question. This year, I went for a Pap in a new town , new doc. When the doc asked me how I could possibly be still producing milk (nursling is 4), I was so dumbfounded that she was THAT ignorant of the topic that I forgot to even CARE when she said I needed a tetanus (it had been a decade) and I justified it because we go hiking in the rockies, and well – I have been conditioned to not think of a tetanus as a vax (????!!!!!). She also was pushing flu, but I was already decided against that – never got one when pregnant and never plan to (never got one for my kid, either). So, when I was with the nurse getting the tetanus, she informed me as the needle was already in my arm that it was a pertussis-tetanus, and I was so confused because at the same time, she blurted out that the doc was a “shot queen,” but it was too late for me to recount and double back. So, here, I have been no vax with my kid for a year (sorry I was not anti vax from birth for his sake), and yet I accepted a stupid vax for MYSELF. Duh. Face palm. I have not been able to find out anything about long term side effects of this pertussis-tetanus vax online. Wonder what the risk is to my health?

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    • I’m wondering if there was also diphtheria in there as well. From what I understand the only place you can get a tetanus only shot is in the E.R these days.

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      • I have recently dealt with the ER for a deep cut. Apparently T by itself isn’t manufactured anymore or is just not available in the US. Also, you have a few days to have the T (or combo) after an injuiry, if you decide it’s necessary.

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  11. Yes nurses are required in the US. I am an ICU RN and I have had to get every freaking vaccine out there or else not work. I think some of my health problems occured after I was vaccinated for everything during nursing school. Now every year they force the flu shot on us or we cannot work. At least here in MI that is how it is and every nurse I know is forced to get vaccinated. I really don’t like it either. I don’t even vaccinate my dogs!

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  12. I was required to get a flu shot last year as a condition of my employment at the hospital I worked at as an RN. I refused and am now a stay at home mom (my choice). This was just the end of the road for me as I have learned a lot since finishing nursing school 8 years ago and don’t (I pretty much learned NOTHING about vaccines during my schooling, might I add). I don’t know where my career will lead in the future, but I’m definitely not sacrificing my health for it. I was often annoyed at how “informed consent” was given with vaccines. Most nurses just gave a CDC handout (which most parents didn’t read – I worked in maternal/child health). Neither the nurses nor the parents really knew what was going into their children / patients. It was disgusting.

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  13. Leslie, when we had an acute form of distemper hitting our dogs (reg. breeding dogs) we had vets in three states telling us that any of the dogs who were not vaccinated were already dead meat…in fact, it was a 6 month old vaccinated pup that brought it to our place and ONLY the dogs who had been vaccinated against it died. The unvacccinated dogs all did fine and lived to old ages. This affected vacccinated dogs in three states as we had dogs coming and going before we knew there was a problem (and the pup that brought it here was quarantined from when she first got here!). It did not show any symptoms until the dog suddenly started have convulsions and by then, it was only a matter of time for them. Close to 20 dogs died but all of them were vaccinated against distemper, some of them several times (even the pup that got it first had more than one vaccination for it by 6 months at the kennel where she came from – her unvaccinated 6 year old sire who came here with her (he’d been out on breeding lease to them for a year) did not get it and lived to be 15 years old after that (Great Pyrenees). During this time, my own vet told me something that just floored me – she said, “Vaccinating your animals is just hoping to stack the odds in your favor, it doesn’t really mean that you are getting protection for sure.” That did it for me. No more animals vaccinated on our place again – and no more outbreaks of bad diseases. That was the one and only time we had a problem in 30 years. There was one mare we sold that the new owner insisted that she have the West Nile vaccine before she came to her new home so we did that – and a month later had to go get the mare and bring her home because she had a complete personality change after the vaccine. Down right dangerous! It took her about a year to get it out of her system and back to normal. That was years ago now and she’s still fine (with a new owner). We refused to give any more WNV after that and told the buyers they would have to give them themselves and we would not be responsible. NONE of our horses ever got WNV, even the ones living all over the U.S., not just the ones here who were not vaccinated at all. We don’t have horses anymore but we were an internationally known breeder of our breed (Morabs) for over 20 years (we were also national known for our Great Pyrenees, too). And the largest until we quit. We have other “vaccination” stories we could tell, too….

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  14. Sarah Jane McKelvy via Facebook April 24, 2012 at 2:17 pm

    Unfortunately, I know this too well. Where I work, I received a call last October saying I had to get the flu shot or “resign voluntarily” that day. I decided to get it because I had NO idea what to do and what avenues to take. Next year, I will say I oppose it on religious grounds.

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  15. If you are pro-vaccine or on the fence -or even if you don’t vaccinate and are looking for more information on the TRUTH that you can share with others- I ask that you take a moment to educate yourself. I always look at both sides and know why I believe what I believe, and I think that is so important in any aspect of our lives that has significance.

    I highly recommend the book: “Cancer: Step Outside the Box” written by Ty Bollinger. (It’s less expensive to order online than in B&N) and here is a link to an excellent website that provides a wealth of information (with resources, research, and studies, etc. to back up the information provided) on vaccines. You can actually choose specific vaccines you want to know about and they provide lists of ingredients as well. http://vaclib.org/legal/employermandates.htm

    Please pass this website along to as many people as you can. Everyone deserves the truth.

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  16. SARA – WHAT?!

    You said ” I asked what documentation was required for a student with a religious or ethical exemption from vaccines and was told I either get them or cannot complete clinical rotations and pass the course.”

    Ridiculous! If you write up what you are going through, I will blog the heck out of it and get it into tons of people’s hands. Not sure it will change things for you, but the word will be out how stupid this is and that our gov’t is forcing you to do something against your will SO THAT you can get your degree – or get no degree.

    Sad :(

    You can email me (Tamara.Healthy.Thoughts@gmail.com) with what you want to have blogged or told to others and I will get the info out. I am with Hawthorn University and would LOVE to tell all the Nutritionists there and have them pass it on.

    I’m sorry for what you are going through. So if you said you can’t have the vaccine because you believe ______________ (whatever religion or ethical belief), the school is REALLY saying that you can’t have your degree – I’d totally get that in writing!

    Tamara Slack
    Tamara Slack\’s last post: Doing the RRARF

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  17. It is both interesting and encouraging to see this right now, because I myself am facing this exact situation right now. I am a young mother of two girls who has worked incredibly hard to get through school while juggling my many other responsibilities. I studied through many (literally) sleepless nights while still having to function as a mother and in my job the following day. I have worked hard for my good grades, to pass the entrance exam into the RN program, etc. ONLY TO BE TOLD THAT IF I DO NOT IMMUNIZE I CANNOT COMPLETE MY DEGREE. I asked what documentation was required for a student with a religious or ethical exemption from vaccines and was told I either get them or cannot complete clinical rotations and pass the course. So, either I inject something I am completely against and afraid of -and WELL educated on- into MY body, or I am not even afforded the opportunity to finish the degree I worked so hard toward; I am not afforded the opportunity to be educated as a nurse and then to decide what type of facility I want to work in. If I want a general education and desire to then work in homeopathic medicine or anything of that likeness, too bad. Being forced to vaccinate is constitutionally, ethically, and morally WRONG. There are other measures that can be taken to protect myself and others against the spreading of diseases, I would have been happy to sign a waiver, but I don’t even get that chance because I don’t want to comply, because I THINK FOR MYSELF- and they do not like that, that’s not the type of person they want in the medical field. I should choose what goes into my body, not the government. Due to my disgust for the way the system is run, I made the choice (even after all of my hard work) to refuse to be vaccinated and decline my acceptance. THE EASY THING AND THE RIGHT THING, ARE SELDOM THE SAME THING. It is time more people start seeking out the truth and stop taking things at face value. Your doctor may be smart and may mean well, but they are all taught one way of thinking- if you don’t agree to that way of thinking, you will be rejected in the medical field- thus the continuance of cookie cutter doctors and nurses that fill the medical industry and feed the wallet of the ever profiting pharmaceutical company. Vaccines, prescription meds, over the counter meds, meds needed to treat side effects of all these meds, etc = $$$ for Big Pharma. I have chosen to change my field of study to biology, and I am going to use it to make a difference, because that was my goal and I will not allow that to change. Please people, START THINKING FOR YOURSELVES. We are conditioned from day one to trust the media and the medical industry, and not to question things. When you start to think for yourself and research things, you will find that most of what you know is not what it appears to be. Please wake up and stand for what you believe in, even when it isn’t easy. If you and I won’t stand and make a difference, who will?

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    • About hospitals and care facilities employing non-vaccinated personnel: they have the time honored trick in the bag: lawsuits. They need to be protected – and they would be vulnerable if the chink in the armor was found missing……meaning, UNVACCINATED HEALTHCARE WORKERS????

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    • This is such a damn shame. I’m pretty sure that the same thing would occur in Australia, and thus I am glad for this reason I am NOT a healthcare worker. I can’t imagine being FORCED to have flu shots each year against my will… or any other vaccination they’d force me to have. The last time I had a vaccination was 1987 (polio taken orally, I was 14) and before that tetanus in 1985. Most people are horrified that I haven’t renewed my tetanus vaccinations in adulthood… and I’d never dream of getting a flu shot or anything like that! I had my childhood vaccinations as required and then no more!

      Yes, I do see some point to vaccinating babies and young children against highly communicable and deadly diseases. However I believe vaccinations CAN and SHOULD be made safer! There is no need for poisons like mercury and aluminium in them!! Kids also shouldn’t be vaccinated against anything and everything, and the vaccines should be spread well apart and not massed together in those multi-vaccines.

      I CAN see the pro side of vaccination, in that since it began the incidence of several dangerous and deadly diseases has been almost eradicated. But I feel we are now going too far, and I am concerned for safety. If I were to have another child now there is no way I would allow them to be vaccinated within days of birth against Hep B for example! And I would request that the vaccine schedule be modified so that they wouldn’t have several in one day. I would also look into the homeopathic alternatives to traditional vaccines.

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    • Good for you and BAD for nursing. Nursing lost you. WHO, would be a nurse if autonomous critical thinkers with perceived rights decided to go to nursing school. So if the whole nursing program dropped out when the needles came out, then what would nursing do? Vote with your money, and time, and dedication. I am a nurse who was injured by a flu shot. Developed a migraine right after the shot and then bell’s palsy several days after the shot all while I was pregnant. I did not come to the understanding you describe until I was well into being a nurse. Believe me, when you believe in human rights and have a conscience, there are many jobs you would not like as a nurse. All the unsuspecting people who take pharmaceutical when healing food would make them well. WHO will tell teach them the right way to eat, or at least encourage the right foods? (Orthodox medical right foods aren’t right.) Instead they are poisoned with drugs, often many times over, a drug to poison the drug that is making them sick…I did not know I was going to school to join the cut and poison drug cartell business when I went to nursing school. All I have ever wanted to do is help people. So do biology, go into holistic health. Sick care needs to change NOW. And YOU are the proof, thank you for saying no to drugs/vaccines! You health is more important than unproven benefits to the herd. Benefits like nerve damage, destroyed immune systems and cancer…?

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  18. That’s because they don’t have rights. They give them up when they contract with the hospital, and the hospital contracts with the United States government. They fall under the mandates of private laws (statutes and regulations). It’s unfortunate, and not difficult to see the facts.

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  19. All of my vaccinated children (10 of them at the time) came down with pertussis. I’d say the vaccine didn’t work anyway. Although I had refused many of the vaccines, I live in an area where there are quite often pertussis outbreaks, so I chose to have them vaccinated for this. I now refuse all vaccines. Why do it if you are not even sure it is going to work?

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  20. Sarah Nelson Miller via Facebook April 24, 2012 at 12:37 pm

    Diane: were any of the children you know who had pertussis infants? Because the age of the patient makes a big difference to the survival rate. It would be very difficult for a newborn to survive that disease, and I think a preemie would have no chance at all.

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  21. Sid Olufs via Facebook April 24, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    yes, but check the vaccination rates in comparable countries…. we have 5 times the proportion of unvaccinated adults as do places like France. The right to refuse has a context.

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  22. Jennifer,I actually know several children who have had pertussis and recovered from it as they recover from any other illness. As a matter of fact, I don’t know one person who had it that died from it.(and i can tell you, they didn’t get it from a nurse in a hospital not that it matters who they got it from ~ and you are telling me that they couldn’t possibly have gotten it from someone who was vaccinated against it!~ Which is false. Here is an article that shows that most of the recent illness was among people who were up to date on their vaccines: — For pertussis cases in which vaccination histories are known, between 44 and 83 percent were of people who had been immunized, according to data from nine California counties with high infection rates. In San Diego County, more than two-thirds of the people in this group were up to date on their immunizations.

    Read more: http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/swcounty/article_cdd5eac3-2d89-54cd-b421-a668899709a4.html#ixzz1syaCWHdl What i do know is this: I watch as a young man i know went in the military and got the anthrax shot and almost died directly from it at the time of the vaccine, he also contracted diabetes from the vaccine (reference Dr. Meryl Nass of Maine who helped us get benefits from the VA for vaccine damage)..then i watched as his symptoms progressed to seizures and two more near death experiences ……what if your child died BECAUSE you had them vaccinated? I personally refuse to have aborted fetal cells, animal fluids, thimerisol, adjuvants, formaldehyde and various other ingredients injected into children, whom, if they are being breast fed have all the natural immunity they need, without their consent. I refuse to think that compelling anyone to get vaccinated against their will is either necessary or beneficial……..if everyone else is vaccinated, then why should you worry about someone who is not, whether they are in the health care field or not? Every trip to the hospital can be a fatal one…..there is no “cure” for MRSA.. I applaud these nurses for refusing the vaccinations. As for preventing the death of my children? I look up when i consider that……i, for one, will not contribute to the death of another and that is how i view vaccines….a gun with a certain amount of bullets in it..roulette..will my child be the one who is allergic to it, be irreparably harmed by it, have a delayed reaction to it to the point where the medical establishment says it is unrelated, or die from it?

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  23. CJ at Food Stories April 24, 2012 at 12:20 pm

    As a nurse and a healthcare administrator, I see this from both sides. I routinely refuse the pneumonia vaccine but many hospitals in the US “attempt” to require it. I say “attempt” because I’ve never seen it be successful; however, when dealing with such a vulnerable population (neonates), I have seen hospitals require vaccination or you can’t work in that specific area. If I still worked on the floor providing direct patient care, I would probably take the vaccine because this stuff (microbes, general) proliferates in hospitals.
    CJ at Food Stories\’s last post: National Picnic Day

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  24. Glad to see members actually working in the conventional health field refusing vaccines. Its insistences like this that reflect the truth about vaccines and drugs in general.

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  25. Jennifer Brooks via Facebook April 24, 2012 at 11:53 am

    People are dying from pertussis, a preventable disease. Millions of people get vaccinated each year without any problem and the risk of vaccine is much less than the risk of pertussis. People might think differently if it were their child who died because someone refused to get vaccinated. The problem is that it is small children who are too young to be vaccinated that die from this disease. Most hospitals require vaccination or proof of immunity in order to work at the hospital. Healthcare professionals need to think twice about the profession that they have entered if they knowingly put their patients at risk. When thinking about side effects, people need to put things in perspective. Would you mind having an infection at the injection site (which is most often due to technique rather than the vaccine itself) or know that you could have prevented the death of your child?

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  26. Out of curiosity, did the study mention any data on the outbreak and how it resolved itself? If most docs/nurses didn’t vaccinate, and the outbreak didn’t expand/continue/worsen, that would be actually very interesting to the vax/anti-vax discussion with regards to our rights to refuse versus “the public good”.

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    • True. You never hear statistics that indicate actual problems from not vaccinating. Maybe there aren’t any of that type of statistics. I’ve been keeping my eyes open for 11 years since I started looking into vaccinations, and the pro-vaccine side has yet to show me any statistics to prove their point.

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  27. Sarah,
    This line is pure brilliance: I am sorry the strikeouts did not copy!

    It was recommended that “additional lies research and interventions to increase fear trust between nurses and the authorities and propaganda knowledge regarding vaccines is needed.”

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  28. I wish I had known about this……I was decived!!! I had the DTaP shot after the birth of my last baby in 2011. It got majorly infected, swelled up really bad. I went back to the hosipital who gave me the shot, and they said they could do nothing for me!!!! I STILL have a scar at the injection site that is still a little sore when pressed!!!!And it’s been 15 months!!! NO ONE should EVER get this shot!!!!!

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  29. Kristin Hobbs Trammell via Facebook April 24, 2012 at 11:28 am

    At the hospital where I’m employed, the #1 reason given for refusal to vaccinate is simply not wanting to be told what to do by an employer – just as stated in this article. It really has very little to do with the vaccines themselves. People just don’t want to be told what to do with their bodies.

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  30. Melba Pierce via Facebook April 24, 2012 at 11:15 am

    I have already had Pertussis and don’t need an immunization against it as I already have all the anti-bodies I need against it – if they have had Pertussis, then they don’t need an immunization against it – that could make them very sick.

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  31. As a side note, this is one more reason to not birth in a hospital unless absolutely necessary – Baby is getting exposed to germs from many people rather than just a few!

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  32. If a science fiction book of twenty years ago were to portray a future where health care workers would have to be injected with deadly poisons like mercury, and aluminum to keep their jobs, nobody would have believed it. Truth is indeed stranger than fiction.

    And it is fascinating that the very health care workers who are most at risk for Pertussis are more afraid of the vaccine than the disease.
    Stanley Fishman\’s last post: Only Small Farms Produce Magical Food

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  33. Good! I love this: “what are we?- in Soviet Russia?. . .on principle I am not getting vaccinated this year.”

    I wrote on how the FDA says it’s okay for infants to excrete mercury recently. Quite an uproar!

    I’m hearing of more and more people refusing vaccines – word is getting out :)

    Tamara Slack
    Tamara Slack\’s last post: Doing the RRARF

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