Autism Fraud? Researcher a Victim of Yellow Journalism

by Sarah TheHealthyHomeEconomist January 6, 2011

fiebre amarilla / yellow journalismIn the 1993 film The Fugitive, Dr. Richard Kimble (played by Harrison Ford) valiantly eludes US Marshal Samuel Gerard (played by Tommy Lee Jones) to find his wife’s murderer and clear his own name.    As the story progresses, it is revealed that prior to his wife’s murder, Dr. Kimble had discovered that a drug called Provasic caused liver damage that would preclude its approval by the FDA.   His colleague and friend Dr. Nichols, who is leading development of the drug,  arranged a cover-up in order to facilitate the drug’s approval which included hiring a hit man for Kimble that had accidentally resulted in his wife’s death.    All turns out well in the end for Dr. Kimble.   He clears his name and the true killer of his wife is revealed along with the criminal deception of Dr. Nichols.

Things don’t always turn out so well in real life.

While The Fugitive‘s screenplay is fictional, a related storyline is being played out before our eyes in the very real excoriation of Dr. Andrew Wakefield, the physician and scientist whose research revealed the link between the MMR vaccine and autism.

Was Dr. Wakefield’s research “an elaborate fraud” as trumpeted by CNN this week?

No.

Is there, in fact, a link between MMR and autism?

Yes.

Dr. Wakefield discovered that autistic children have enlarged and inflamed lymph nodes in their gut wall.   The cause of this severe, auto-immune reaction?    The measles virus, the very same one used in the MMR vaccine!

Dr. Wakefield isn’t the only physician to discover the link between autism and the measles virus.  Dr. John O’Leary, professor of pathology and a well known virologist from Dublin, found the same thing.    Autistic children have inflamed ileal lymph nodes chock full of measles virus from the MMR vaccine indicating a severe auto immune reaction.

In addition, a team from the Wake University School of Medicine is currently finding out the same thing as Dr. Wakefield and Dr. O’Leary. Of 275 children being tested with regressive autism and bowel disease, of 82 tested so far, 70 have tested positive for measles virus.   It is the measles strain in the vaccine, by the way, not wild measles.

Moreover, 14 months before  Dr Wakefield’s paper was published, two other researchers – Professor Walker-Smith and Dr Amar Dhillon – independently documented the same problems in these children, including symptoms of autism.

Yes, read it and weep CNN.   You try to squelch the truth by ruining someone’s life like Dr. Wakefield and it just pops out somewhere else.

Modern Day Yellow Journalism

The series of articles launched by conventional media outlets yesterday were instigated by the so called “investigative” journalism of Brian Deer.   Not surprisingly, Mr. Deer’s investigation was paid for by the The Sunday Times of London and the UK’s Channel 4 Television network.

Guess the identity of some of the biggest advertisers of these two media giants?

How about the very same vaccine manufacturers that stand to lose big unless Dr. Wakefield’s research is discredited as completely as possible and his credibility and career utterly decimated.

You see, if the pharmaceutical companies themselves paid for this tainted investigative piece, the public would have cried foul.      Indirectly paying for Deer’s modern day style of yellow journalism as a big fat advertiser for a conventional media source is much more accepted and rarely if ever questioned.

Indirect control of content with huge advertising dollars?    You betcha.    That’s the name of the Big Pharma game.

The Public is Waking Up

With 40% of parents now openly refusing or delaying vaccination according to the CDC, this piece of yellow journalism couldn’t be more welcome for vaccine manufacturers.    With an expendable researcher like Dr. Wakefield out of the way and his data on the link between MMR and autism thoroughly discredited, perhaps the growing trend of parental refusal to accept the standard childhood vaccination schedule can be halted and reversed.

Don’t bet on it.

The jig is up.   Misrepresenting the facts by hiring a mercenary journalist like Mr. Deer only works as a short term ploy by garnering big headlines but has little effect on the long term and growing distrust of vaccines by the public.

Remember Dr. Richard Kimble’s leap from the Hoover Dam in one of The Fugitive‘s most dramatic scenes?   Against all odds, Dr. Kimble managed to swim to the shore and survive to fight another day.

It ain’t over ’til its over.     And, this fight is definitely not over.

Sarah, TheHealthyHomeEconomist.com

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Comments (143)

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  2. Veronica, I want to say this as nicely as I can. Stop coming to this website. It seems that it causes you to despair. I am a 26 year healthcare veteran, and I have seen first hand what “Modern Medicine” can do to destroy the human body. I am not paranoid; I have been a MAJOR skeptic for years. If you want to understand why you can’t think outside the box, read any book by JOHN TAYLOR GATTO and he articulates what has happened in the public school system to CAUSE you to think a certain way. It is not a lack of intelligence; it is a WAY of thinking. You sound like an intelligent woman who wants solid answers, but the answers to this are unbelievably entwined in many things. So, you MUST have an open mind and open heart to be able to see it. I suggest prayer. That is what it took for me. God bless you in your journey to find TRUTH. P. S. I choose LIFE.(:

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  3. http://www.taap.info/yazbak_studies.html
    http://www.rescuepost.com/files/gr-autism_and_vaccines_world_special_report1.pdf

    The MMR is only a causal factor for some— as are many vaccines. As the mother of a child with autism, I see it differently. We all are a cup- each of our cups are capable of holding a certain amount of toxins, heavy metals, etc without causing overt issues. Once the cup is full, it starts to overflow– autism being one of the manifestations of the overflow. Each of our cups are different! We don’t know how much we can hold! Is it worth our children’s lives to knowingly and willingly inject them with known toxins, carcinogens, heavy metals, etc? You can never take that back!

    If you start to investigate the efficacy of vaccines and analyze the actual data of the diseases we are supposed to be preventing, you’ll be astonished. Reading about outbreaks of “vaccine-preventable” diseases is an eye-opening experience; the vast majority (sometimes even 100%) of those infected in most modern outbreaks were fully vaccinated…gives you pause. There was never a vaccine developed for English Sweating Sickness or the Plague and yet they are gone…wonder how that happened? Maybe vaccines aren’t the magic bean they are professed to be!

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  4. Veronica – there isn’t any more room for pro-vaccine rhetoric because that’s the majority of what’s available in the world, and there’s enough of that to go around already. What’s in short supply is a reasonable and truthful explanation of what’s really going on. Those who question vaccines are in the minority. If we weren’t, there would be fair, and unbiased information at the doctor when you go to take your child for a visit explaining that there are two options – either poison your child with these substances or learn the facts and choose to opt out. Instead, parents are heckled and made to feel incompetent and ridiculous for questioning a system that only seeks to poison us, and in some cases, threatened. The reason I know the media, the government, and pharma are all have the same opinion and are in this together – is because they all support each other’s statements. All you have to do is read the news, plain and simple. The media is not telling people to educate themselves and learn all they can about poisonous substances in vaccines. Besides that, many of those cross-over into one another’s territory. Many of the government agencies supporting vaccination used to work for pharma and vice versa. The conflicts of interest are absolutely appalling.

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    • By Sandra G. Boodman
      Friday, January 14, 2011; 8:06 PM
      THE PANIC VIRUS

      A True Story of Medicine,

      Science, and Fear

      By Seth Mnookin

      Simon & Schuster. 429 pp. $26.99

      A few years ago, while reporting a story on attention deficit disorder, I asked an affluent young mother why she was spending thousands of dollars on a dubious therapy, rather than on treatment proven to be effective. “I did my research on the Internet,” she replied, citing a handful of pseudoscientific Web sites that advocated the “natural” approach she favored and that warned against immunizing her preschoolers against childhood diseases because the shots contained toxic ingredients.

      I thought of her while reading “The Panic Virus,” journalist Seth Mnookin’s disturbing and well-told chronicle of the childhood vaccine wars in the United States and England. While Mnookin traces the history of vaccines, beginning with the one for smallpox, his focus is on the specious but remarkably persistent myth that the current roster of shots children receive to prevent diseases such as measles, whooping cough and hepatitis B can cause autism or other serious problems – and that this “fact” is well-known to government officials, pediatricians and vaccine manufacturers, who have conspired to cover it up.

      A contributing editor for Vanity Fair, Mnookin became interested in the subject in 2008 shortly after getting married and becoming part of a community of young professionals who drove Priuses, shopped at Whole Foods and decided against vaccinating their children, which they considered to be a health-conscious choice. Some didn’t trust the medical establishment, while others were swayed by media reports about the possible dangers of vaccines or thought that the number of shots given to children is excessive.

      Ironically, immunizations have become victims of their own success, eradicating from public memory the devastating aftermaths of once-common pediatric illnesses: deafness caused by mumps, blindness after measles and paralysis brought on by polio. Mnookin documents how these vaccines, a cornerstone of modern public health, have become targets of fear and misinformation. He draws on interviews with anti-vaccine activists and public health officials, scientific literature, media accounts, and research into the psychology of risk. His view of the media’s role is unsparing; he shows how ratings-hungry news and entertainment shows kept the debate alive, even as evidence for the safety and effectiveness of the shots became overwhelming.

      Opposition to childhood vaccines simmered mostly on the fringes until 1998, when London gastroenterologist Andrew Wakefield co-authored a study in the British medical journal Lancet linking autism to the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) shot. Although his research was immediately challenged, it was not until last year that the study was retracted and Wakefield stripped of his medical license. Two weeks ago the British Medical Journal published an investigative article on the study, as well as an editorial calling it “an elaborate fraud” based on falsified data. The influential journal reported that crucial details in the case histories of the dozen children included in Wakefield’s report had been altered or were misrepresented.

      In the years after Wakefield’s study, the anti-vaccine argument gained significant traction, especially on the Internet, which has become an important source of health information for many people. As a consequence, immunization rates on both sides of the Atlantic dropped; outbreaks of measles, pertussis and mumps increased; and some children died of vaccine-preventable diseases. Even though study after study failed to find a link between the ingredients in vaccines and autism, health officials in the United States and England seemed unable to effectively refute anti-immunization arguments, for reasons that remain puzzling.

      Mnookin’s contention that the controversy would not have achieved staying power without uncritical or at times blatantly irresponsible reporting by numerous media outlets – including NBC, the Huffington Post, Rolling Stone and The Washington Post – is persuasive. Too often, he writes, journalists display “a willingness to parrot quack claims under the guise of reporting on citizen concerns.” Much of the coverage failed to adequately explain the fundamental but essential difference between correlation and causation. Simply because a child received a vaccine and soon after began showing signs of autism does not mean the shot caused the disorder, only that the two events are linked temporally. Nor can scientists ever say categorically that vaccines do not cause autism; it is impossible to prove a negative.

      Television talk shows also provided a platform for vaccine opponents to make their case, largely unchallenged. During an appearance on “Oprah,” actress Jenny McCarthy blamed the MMR shot for her son’s autism, proudly telling the audience, “The University of Google is where I got my degree.”

      This book effectively documents the isolation and anguish of parents raising an autistic child, and it’s hard not to feel that these families are victims of a battle that has squandered significant resources. A former leader who has broken with one prominent autism group over its anti-vaccine stance said it best: “At some point, you have to say, ‘This question has been asked and answered and it’s time to move on.’ ”

      Sandra G. Boodman, a former staff writer for The Washington Post, writes about health and medicine.

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  5. What the heck is going on?? was my first thought as I read thru quite a bit of the comments here! My jaw is still on the floor. I just do not understand why, if people disagree with Sarah so much, do they even bother reading the blog let alone take the time to post the comments they did? Are they THAT incredibly bored?

    I, just this afternoon, had a heated discussion with a very, very good friend today over this whole “conspiracy” and the choices my husband and I have made. I love this friend dearly, but she is so incredibly conventional. So, conventional that she once said to me after I was talking about GMOs that we (meaning the US) has to use GMOs because we need to feed the world and that is the best way. WHAT?? I just shake my head and change the subject as we usually agree to disagree. Well, she got started on this whole autism story today and one thing led to the next and I was just so exhausted after the conversation. It was like running in circles. All 5 of her grandchildren get all of their vaccinations. And they all have issues, from constantly sick, hospital stays from illnesses to ADHD, and so on. See my point? She herself has a ton of medical issues. She gets her flu shot, religiously, and yet, got the flu last year. When my 1st child was very young, going to a regular pediatrician, he was always sick! We stopped taking him and started with a homeopathic doctor and drastically changed our way of eating. May I just say, it has been 5 years with little more than a bad cold. Praise GOD!! If you are a religious person, truly, you would find major issues with what is put in the vaccines. DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH!! Sarah does not write this stuff for it to be your only source. And it would be just plain stupid to have it be your only source and not do your homework when it comes to your children’s health. I know doctors AND nurses that will not vaccinate!

    I know this may be deviating a tiny bit but I just have to say that it is not being a conspiracy theorist if you do not believe the world is all fuzzy and warm. There are going to be different thought processes out there but it becomes a problem when bashing begins. There is no need for it and if you find this blog offensive, do not visit it. Plain and simple.

    Sarah, you are one heck of a strong woman and I know you will let all of this roll right off of your shoulders. Keep doing what you are doing. There are plenty of us that appreciate it.

    God bless you!

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    • Dawn,
      Thanks for your thoughts. I think you’re defining conspiracy theorist different than I do. I certainly don’t think the world is all fuzzy and warm. My confusion in reading some of these comments was the overarching belief that somehow the government, media and big pharma are smart enough to coordinate the biggest sham in US history. I don’t look to this blog for my only source of health information but I found some of the posts useful. I came to discuss the vaccine issue but found that Sarah didn’t even want to engage in discussion. If you read some of my earlier posts, they weren’t attacking, I brought in some other articles and posts about some research out there and it seems no one is interested in discussing the other side of these issues. I feel like if you’re not anti-vax, then you’re not allowed to start a discussion in these threads. I have wanted to challenge the method of communicating here not the content. I am interested in alternative health care, but everyone is right, I haven’t found the community I was looking for in this blog, so I will continue to search elsewhere. I’m not in the pocket of pro-conventional medicine folks if it matters at all. I am a social worker that has worked at a childrens hospital for many years and have had to advocate time and time again for my patients when the families have wanted to refuse tests, or blood transfusions (for being jehovah’s witnesses), I’ve had to stand up to the stereotypical western medicine doctor and tell him that the El Salvadorian family they are taking care of wants to do some special prayers at the bedside before surgery that will cut into pre-surgical time. So, I’ve been an advocate for all of your children on this blog who need support when saying no to the doctor when its time for vaccines or medical tests you don’t want to get, yet I haven’t been able to engage in a conversation about constructive communication here. I guess thats why I am disappointed. I know sometimes I’ve been playing devil’s advocate, but i’m ultimately trying to have a discussion about a topic that most people would rather not discuss unless you are on the same side of the issue. I was trying to build a bridge to both sides b/c we are too divisive in this country, but clearly I failed at my attempts to bridge this gap. Its such a large gap I see. Kind of like the abortion debate.

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  6. Well, I know one thing and that is I will never inject that poisonous filthy junk into my body.

    The real question for me is: Our vaccines necessary? Can we do better than stabbing needles into people’s arms? I’ve always believed “modern” medicine is a joke. We seriously can’t do any better than toxic drugs and cutting people up in surgery? Thats why I’m a firm believer in alternative medicine. It has real solutions and doesn’t just work hard to cover up a problem. Alternative medicine is about freedom and empowerment from the slavery of mainstream society.

    Has anyone ever seen the Cochrane reviews? Every year they show that the flu vaccine is ineffective and that the only research in favor of vaccines is Big Pharma. It means people are putting their kids at risk for something that doesn’t even really work. Hey, it looks like the UK wants to ban healthy people from vaccines: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/flu/8250231/Worried-well-should-be-banned-from-having-flu-jab-says-leading-GP.html
    I’m quite surprised since the UK is so overun with those organized “skeptic” groups that are actually an insult to real science. Makes me glad to live in America.

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  7. Veronica – conspiracy theories are a dime a dozen, but this sham being pulled by the government, pharmaceutical companies, and other entities trying to smear Dr. Wakefield and his colleagues’ work being labeled as such by those who refuse to believe and side with the pharmaceutical companies (who are getting rich off the misery and suffering of people) and the government doesn’t fall into that category. Just remember, simply because you decide to characterize something in that manner doesn’t make it a conspiracy theory. Those are just your words.

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    • Raine,
      Actually they aren’t my words originally, but yes, they are words that I typed. I’ll be specific about what makes me nervous–when people lump multiple large groups together and somehow think that they can coordinate a large enough effort to create the largest sham in history. I’m serious when I say this, how is that possible? The CIA, FBI and Pentagon can barely communicate well enough to keep our country safe at times, but somehow they’ve decided that its in our country’s best interest to fool all its citizens just so big pharma can make some money? How is that possible? ASIDE from money, what would be the purpose of smearing Dr. Wakefield? You think that the average citizen wants its children in harms way? Please be specific in your answer. I am curious about what the other motivation would be except money. It can’t only be about money. Not all of us are motivated by money. I am certainly not as a social worker. The other thing is, why would the gov, and media work so hard to refute ONE person (Dr. Wakefield) ? I know he’s the one who said “connection between MMR and autism” but I don’t understand why the gov and media, etc would spend so much time and money on one person. The media and the gov don’t get along. There is no way they are in cahoots with each other. I’m just trying to be specific here. You say its a big sham. Why is it a sham aside from money?

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  9. Sarah, you have my complete trust and confidence. Thank you for all the wonderful information you put into this blog. I have learned so much from you, and it has been of great benefit to me and my family.

    Thank you for having the courage to express your opinion on controversial subjects.

    Insults, name calling and personal attacks are the most effective method of silencing debate and opposition. Another favorite tactic is to question the sanity of anyone who does not agree with them. Anyone who resorts to these despicable, bullying tactics is tacitly admitting that they cannot win the argument with reason and facts. Which is exactly why they resort to this kind of intimidation.

    You won the activism award at the WAPF conference because of your courage, wisdom, insight, clear thinking, and willingness to expose yourself to attack for the sake of truth.

    Thank you so much.
    Stanley Fishman\’s last post: My Podcast Interview at Our Natural Life

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  10. Last night I was listening to NPR and heard a “researcher” talking about vaccinating and how important it is for the health of the whole, blah blah blah. I guess its kind of like everything else in this country sacrifice a few for the many, in this case a few in relative to the masses for the masses of small children. My nephew has autism and his parents said he seemed to become more symptomatic after vaccinating. The interesting thing about this whole debate is that its not even about the real reason vaccines can be harmful and ineffective, but rather about some medical/scientific miss. Many people can be exposed to a certain illness and react differently to it based on their individual make-up, it is no different with the big illnesses that vaccines ineffectively attempt to “cure”. I think we have all seen this in our own families when one child will become very ill and the other only a slight sniffle from one sickness then from some other sickness it may be the other child who gets sick or even one the parents. I think it is really important to put it into a larger context with the idea of sickness equates spiritual and physical growth especially for children. I notice when my children get sick agter they recover they are so much stronger and clearer in their personalities. I do not vaccinate and I do not take it lightly; I know there are risks and benefits from not vaccinating however I do not feel comfortable injecting my children with toxins in order to attempt to increase immunity to diseases. Its like using antibiotics, another attempt to increase health with death ideals. Anywhoo thanks for the research, I appreciate it!

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  11. Sarah,
    A review of the book that I keep mentioning (that I am now half way through) “The Panic Virus”.
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704034804576025682621085122.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
    The book doesn’t focus on autism at first, it goes back in history looking at epidemics such as smallpox and polio and talks about cultural trends towards believing in vaccines and then avoiding them. The autism/vaccine discussion is not a new concept and this book so well illustrates how humans look for patterns in the chaotic world we live in and how our own psyches create stories to make sense of our world. I was a psychology major in college and while that doesn’t make me an expert on much it does help me understand the bigger picture of how humans interact and how as a society we band together or segregate ourselves when there are things we can’t control. The autism/vaccine debate is really just the replication of many other “debates” this country has depending on the subjective experience of the individuals who reside in the “either” “or” camps. The author of the book was a History of Science major in college (at Harvard) he is not in the pocket of the media or big pharma. He is an independent writer. Much of his writing has illuminated things for me in a new way. Please, for the sake of open mindedness and the possibility for exchanges of ideas, please consider reading the book. I think a lot of your responses to people on your blog re: the vaccine issue has been very limited and closed off. You tell people that they can remain ignorant and believe what they want but its clear that no one will change their minds. That seems to include you. Your blog sounds less like intelligent discourse and more like propaganda in its own right. Not so much that the content is propaganda–i understand the belief and choice not to vaccinate, but once again I’m talking about tone of comments, the confrontational tone you use in your replies, the titles of your blog postings “6 ways to say no to your pediatrician”. Your postings seem to be designed to segregate yourself and your “followers” and “ha ha ha” to anyone else who dare challenge you. So, I challenge you, not to change your choices about your life, but to change the way you lead people. If you are open minded, then I can’t see how you can read this book and come back and say its propaganda–if you did that I’d truly believe you are a victim of conspiracy theorists and you have whole heartedly been absorbed by paranoia and the psychological trickery of conspiracy theories. From what I’ve read about from the rest of your blog you seem to have valuable things to say and people listen to you/respond to you, please be the kind of leader that others aspire to, not just those who agree with you, but ones that even those who disagree with you admire. We can all admire those that lead with integrity and charity rather than segregating and tearing down.

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    • I came here because a friend of mine posted your blog on her facebook page but I have been disappointed by what I’ve found. I was looking for a leader in this debate and I find someone who is just as guilty of propaganda as the side you so oppose. So you are right, I won’t be looking to you to hear the “other side” in order to make an informed decision for my family. I don’t see how always being on the defensive, as you are, is a way to communicate with people. I don’t think you are getting out the other side of the story, I think you are getting out one page out of many chapters in this big story and your readers are being shown a disservice by being told to be scared and wary of everyone else but you. I will repeat and then I will leave you alone, conspiracy theories are a very slippery psychological slope and your insistence about the big pharma, the media, the medical establishment is very scary. Its one thing to say you don’t think vaccines are for you because you are earthy-crunchy, its another thing to insist in this very public forum that the gov et al are out to get people. Dangerous words. Paranoid thinking. I don’t trust conspiracy theorists, even if I agree with your position.
      Good luck with the rest of your blog.

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  12. This is exactly why presumably well-educated people who we expect are rational end up being a know-all and have this air of arrogance that they are better than others, holier than thou attitude are more dangerous because they start believing in their own lies. wait a minute, that sounds like andrew wakefield! your hero, sarah (and all the jenny mccarthy’s and jim carey’s out there who are on the opposite–no nothing about science but would rather go for the ride of drama). simply pathetic!

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    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
      Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist January 9, 2011 at 7:39 pm

      Love it KIM! Bring on the insults! :)

      You nasty words just show that you haven’t thought through the real issues. I like what someone else posted somewhere in this comment thread: Just because you haven’t done your research doesn’t make me (fill in the blank) a wacko, arrogant, holier than thou, know it all, pathetic, drama queen etc, etc, etc. I may be no science expert, but I know a media railroad job when I see one! This is exactly what is happening to Dr. Wakefield.

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  13. Interesting facts:
    1. Andrew Wakefield only ever wanted to SEPARATE the MMR components, NOT stop vaccinating at all.
    2. While you discuss Brian Deer’s funding, did it ever occur to you to question Andrew Wakefield’s? Or, for that matter, the source of his patients? Several of the patients referred to in his “study” were referred to him via a personal injury lawyer. And, in fact, Andrew Wakefield was given LARGE sums of money from this very same personal injury lawyer to “investigate” their autism. Conflict of interest anyone?

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    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
      Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist January 9, 2011 at 11:29 am

      Lori, not sure at all what your point is here. Are you trying to point out that Dr. Wakefield needs to earn a living? Nothing wrong with that.

      The problem with Mr. Deer’s use of funds versus Dr. Wakefield’s is that Mr. Deer used the funding to produce tainted journalism that had a sole purpose of destroying another person’s reputation to protect corporate profits.

      Did Dr. Wakefield do the same thing with the money he legitimately earned? No he did not. He produced research that is very real and very true and is currently being replicated at Wake University Medical School and was previously replicated by Dr. O’Leary in Dublin. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-388051/Scientists-fear-MMR-link-autism.html

      Big difference!!!! Big HUGE difference.

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      • Sarah, your article above about Walker at Wake Forest seemed a little unfinished to me, so I dug deeper. I’m curious, why are you printing an article from 2006 and saying its current?
        Here: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb4345/is_10_34/ai_n29321363/
        In this Walker says the findings of measles in the gut does not prove that there is a link between MMR and autism or even that measles causes gut disease. Plus it also says that the Wake Forest study was done in 2006, not now, which you say above is “currently being replicated”.

        You are misleading your readers with your above post. Please revise it.

        To broaden the scope a bit:
        Here is an interesting timeline of research findings. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/1808956.stm

        Look at how many studies were done in different countries showing no link. How do you account for different countries validating the ‘no link’ finding? Specifically look at the findings in Japan in March 2005.

        I am all for you providing information to your readers, but when you are presenting misleading information like the Walker study (and the Daily Mail article which is 5 years outdated) then you are knowingly misleading your readers.

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      • Oh, Sarah. I’m disappointed in you! You obviously have not done due dilligence in your “research.”

        First of all, the article that you link to is from the Daily Mail… the UK’s equivalent of the National Enquirer – not a good source to back yourself with. Secondly, that article was written in 2006!!!! Wake Forest is not *currently* replicating that research. Dr. Walker presented an abstract poster, nothing more; fascinating that there hasn’t been more said about this since it happened four years ago, don’t you think? And interesting, Dr. Walker says himself he did not establish a causal relationship between the two.

        In addition, O’Leary did not ‘replicate’ the study. He was a major shareholder in the laboratory to which Andrew Wakefield sent his biopsies for evaluation; of note, the lab’s accreditation was pulled a short time later.

        As far as the funding goes, you are really being quite hypocritical. Hypothetically, if there was a study that was able to define that there is most definitely no relationship between MMR and autism, and that study was funded by a pharmaceutical company, you would be all over it like white on rice. Yet you dismiss that a large portion of Andrew Wakefield’s funding came from a personal injury lawyer who had an *obvious* interest in showing a causal relationship between MMR and autism. (And for Peggy’s assertion that the money came later, she is most definitely wrong. The money – and the patients themselves – came first). Interestingly enough, the money behind the Wake Forest study was provided, at least in part, by the National Autism Association who endorses a link between MMR and autism.

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        • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
          Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist January 9, 2011 at 8:52 pm

          Lori and Veronica, when that article printed, not even one third of the 275 autistic children planned to be screened had been completed yet. Who knows how long it had taken to screen the 82 that had been screened until that point. These types of studies take a very long time especially with so many subjects involved. When a subsequent update will come along or a completed study – I don’t know – but with only 82 children screened the results were exactly the same as found by Dr. Wakefield and Dr. O’Leary. That is why I say in this blog post that this fight is FAR FROM OVER.

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    • Why not Listen to Andrew Wakefield’s side of this. Let him explain what exactly he did and how the corruption plays out. This is a ten part interview with Dr. Mercola. He goes into great detail about the safety and effectiveness of the MMR, and other vaccines as well. How many papers have been pulled after they have gone through peer review. This was a political hit for sure. When you are done I guarantee you will come away with more questions about the whole vaccine policy and who’s really running the show. Listen if you dare. By the way his involvement with the personal injury lawsuits came after his research paper.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIsFW5phHas&feature=related

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  14. I have read through these posts, something I don’t normally do because it frustrates me to no end. As a 59 year old grandmother raising an Aspergers granddaughter I have to make a confession. I am probably one of the oldest anti vax zealots posting. My story goes way back to 1970 when my son (granddaughters father) was given his very first DPT. He screamed for five hours and then stopped breathing. At the ER they told me he was a near miss SIDs and REFUSED to consider the vaccine as the cause. There were no computers then. I was 18 and very naive but not stupid. When he went for his well child visit I refused the DPT. It did not matter what that doctor told me. No amount of threats from him could convince me to give my baby that shot again. In fact he never received another vaccine until he was scheduled to go to school. By the way back then it was only DPT, Polio and measles vaccines. He never got another DPT. His baby brother was never given any vaccines until school, and I also refused the DPT. They would give you a little card with the MD’s initials next to the scheduled vaccines. It was very easy to forge it. I wish my granddaughter was as lucky.

    Oh by the way. How is it Dr Paul Offit works for Pharma and owned a Patent for the Roto Virus vaccine that had to be pulled for causing bowel obstruction. No one seems to question his conflicts, and treat him as if he is some kind of expert on vaccines. He has been on many media shows but they never seem to disclose where his paycheck comes from. Lets face it Big Pharma has our medical system in the palm of their hands. Their bottom line is to sell as many drugs as they can, they could care less about your health. The sicker the better.

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  15. I too feel vaccines serve only one purpose…….make the pharmaceutical companies money. This type of journalism will continue unfortunately. Would you please include your references for this particular article. Thanks

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  16. I think people like Debbie should be held responsible for all the deaths and injuries caused by vaccines. Its people like her who blindly follow the medical establishment and support Big Pharma’s corrupt for-profit practices by vaccinating that have caused the many needless deaths of so many innocent children, far more than any infectious disease has ever caused. Their dangerous toxic drugs have caused many deaths! But because people like Debbie continue to support this industry along with the GMO junkfood they will continue to profit off of the publics ignorance.
    Even if vaccines don’t cause autism they’ve been linked to a host of other health problems such as neurological disorders. Why would anyone take the risk of giving their child that?

    Why should I have to risk my health and life by getting a vaccine anyway? Its a violation of human rights as its denying me might right to health and life.

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    • Not that I believe this, but there are also plenty of people, Liliana who would say its folks like you who should be held responsible for the growing number of illnesses like measles and whooping cough showing up in our country where parents are no longer vaccinating their children. The blame goes both ways, everyone on both sides is throwing stones in glass houses.
      I just started reading “The Panic Virus” today by Seth Mnookin. The introduction and first chapter alone gave me chills. If both sides claim to want to know both sides of the stories, then this book is worth reading. Before anyone says this writer was paid by Big Pharma, etc. or is in the pocket of someone else, he’s not.

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      • Yeah, I’m aware that people do blame the anti-vaccine side for the rising illness rate, too. But my experience in alternative health has long taught me that Big Pharma so dominates the mainstream that really people will either dismiss or scapegoat anything to to relieve them of their fears and indoctrinated beliefs. And really their is a lot of fear involved with pro-vaccine and opposition to the alternatives. You can tell just be reading their posts that they’ve been scared to death by the mainstream. I really don’t think these people realize how much their playing right into the hands of Big Pharma and making them even more money by supporting their propaganda. You see it a lot with people who don’t understand the importance of buying oganic food. Its not just the fact that its more nutritious, but that by not buying such food your supporting factory farms and the horribly crude biotech industry.

        In my life, I work hard to stay away from conventional medicine, and while I do acknowledge that it has its place, but that we need to be searching for alternatives as well so that we don’t end up completely dependent upon some for-profit multi-national corporation. Something that people on the pro-vaccine side don’t seem to understand.

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  17. Sarah,
    I think you’ve got 2011′s most controversial topic already and we’re only a week into the new year! :-)

    blessings

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  18. A new book is out this week “The Panic Virus” by Seth Mnookin. I think the readers of this blog should pick it up and we should have a book club style discussion about it.

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  19. Wow, that is truly sad. I know it exists, but just reading it on the page makes me very depressed for the future of children’s lives who have parents that still believe vaccination is okay, even when their children are diagnosed as autistic. Those poor little children.

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  20. Veronica – I’m sorry this depresses you. It used to depress me too, and here’s why: the reason I say that the medical community doesn’t support nutrient-dense diets is because without exception, every mainstream doctor I’ve ever seen (and even still, some alternative practitioners persist in these ideas too) or any advice I’ve ever heard from anyone taking their doctor’s recommendation is to avoid nutrient-dense foods like bone broth, organ meats, healthy fats like lard, butter, tallow/ Their advice? Eat less meat and eat lean, eat more poultry, and any meat without fat, bones, or skin, eat plenty of low-fat foods (many of which are altered and processed to contain little to no nutrients), grains, more vegetables (and no emphasis on organic or non-pesticides or GMO), and count calories, fat, and cholesterol. So I’m not making a blanket statement here. Those doctors attend universities where their accreditation is dependent upon learning certain philosophies and data as cold, hard fact. And when they get out of medical school, that’s what they tell their patients to do. It is only with very rare exception that I’ve had a conversation with anyone in the mainstream medical community who is not on the low-fat wavelength, or who believes fat and cholesterol is necessary for health. And many people outside the medical profession are the same way – again, only with rare exception do I have a conversation with a person, medical or not, who isn’t on the low-fat bandwagon. So I can’t give you any hard and fast numbers, but it’s still the majority of what I read and who I talk to. And I do a LOT of research and have a lot of conversations about health because it’s what I do for a living. I know Sarah has had a similar experience. But the good news is that with blogs like Sarah’s and Stanely’s (Tender Grassfed Meat) and others, the scope of thought on this subject is changing little by little.

    I agree that there are many factors besides vaccines (see my comment above), but what I don’t hear people acknowledging enough about it is that they are indeed a trigger point for kids who have gut issues. If a child receives vaccines and doesn’t develop autism, that doesn’t mean the child doesn’t have gut issues. My son was born premature (9 weeks), I had a ruptured appendix, was very sick and almost died. From the moment my son was born, he was fussy, emotional, cried almost continually, and we didn’t know what we were doing. As many parents do, I consented to allowing doctors to put him medications (for his “prematurity”) and vaccinate him until he was 3 years old and I decided to stop because I was learning about the risks and danger. Not once did anyone suggest feeding him nutrient-dense foods to help his mood or behavior. I was told to feed him formula because I couldn’t breast feed. We tried every formula on the market, including soy, and still he screamed and screamed all day long every day. When he was 1 month home from the hospital, he had to have surgery for a double-inguinal hernia from all the screaming he had been doing, he tore his muscles in his groin. Again, no suggestions about how to stop the screaming, just more medication and industrial food. His tantrums and mood swings were really hard to take, he was so out-of-control. Sometimes I thought I was going to have to be committed. My mother kept saying I wasn’t being firm enough and I needed to set rules. My husband thought I was being too hard on him, but we would continually have these horrible episodes where he’d throw tantrums and try to destroy everything in his room. Finally, when he was almost 5 years old I started cleaning out our house, even of the processed organic foods, because I knew he wasn’t getting enough nutrition and it was affecting not only his physical health but his mental as well.

    It wasn’t until about two years ago that I started making the mood-food connection, as Dr. Natasha McBride does in her book Gut and Psychology Syndrome. It’s a groundbreaking book, and every parent should read it. I haven’t had any luck getting my family to agree to go on the GAPS diet, which my son and husband desperately need (I did my own version of this over 3 years ago), but I continue to offer nutrient-dense foods and they do eat them for the most part. And you know what? My son’s behavior and health is always better when he’s eating well. There is a definite connection to his improved health when he’s been eating well. I firmly believe that if I had continued to vaccinate and feed my son the food he was eating, he might have descended into worse behavior and health issues. He didn’t develop full-blown autism, but maybe my gut flora wasn’t quite bad enough to influence that (although I know it was pretty poor prior to and during pregnancy because I simply didn’t know any better). All of the things that Dr. McBride talks about in her book and in many other pieces of literature I’ve read along these lines from different practitioners and doctors who are outside the normal range of thinking on this subject describe my son’s situation perfectly as it relates to his diet and behavior. But no mainstream doctors have ever even approached this type of understanding about health that I’ve ever conversed with or read about.

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    • Thanks for this more in depth description of your experiences. This makes more sense to me. I made the mistake of reading your nutrient dense, as nutrient rich. Which are two different things (although overlapping). Sorry for the misdirection of my depression, although I am still depressed at the expanding belief that many Drs aren’t critical thinkers.

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    • You guys do realize the majority of MD’s get ONE three credit hour class in nutrition in med school. Without exception the majority of these classes still teach the food guide pyramid, and I don’t care what you think, that thing is garbage. I agree, these doctor’s need to do more homework, but the burden is ultimately on you, the patient/consumer. We have too many sheep in this society that blindly follow the ass in front of them. It’s time to open your mind’s, do your homework, and hold yourself accountable for what happens to you and your family.

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  21. No, Debbie, I don’t understand your reductionist thinking, but yes I do understand real science.
    Debbie, many children have been killed and injured by vaccines. Why do you and so many other people continue to live in denial of vaccine damage? How many parents have suffered needlessly because their children were given vaccines? Do you realize herd immunity is impossible? If everyone in the world was vaccinated we’d still have people dying from the flu. People who decide not to vaccinate are far healthier than people who shove toxic chemicals and dead viruses into their arm? Do you know that your contributing to the development of new viruses whenever you take anti-virals like vaccines and antibiotics? If it wasn’t for those twos existence then vaccines wouldn’t even be necessary.

    Don’t all you pro-vaccine people understand? So-called “modern” medicine is not necessary. Immune-suppressers like vaccines and antibiotics have only created bigger problems like new resistant superbugs. In fact, “modern” medicine created most of the diseases we see today. Better sanitation and improved housing are responsible for longer lifespans and the decrease in acute disease, not todays medicine.

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    • I disagree about the antibiotics. The problem now is that we overuse them so we grow resistance to them. MRSA and other superbugs come out of that, so yes, antibiotics can be a problem in that way. However, antibiotics have saved more lives than we can even conceive of–people would die of staph infections, meningitis, pneumonia, UTIs. Without the invention of penicillin so many people would die. I’m not letting the medical community off the hook (or parents for that matter). Some Dr’s overprescribe antibiotics but so many parents ask for antibiotics when their kids are sick and don’t understand the difference between a virus and infection. Infections can kill. Antibiotics save lives.

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      • Yes, antibiotics have saved lives, but like you said their horribly overused and abused by the medical establishment and general public. We should be researching alternatives to antibiotics because we could very well end up with resistance to them all, instead the EU bans harmless things like colloidal silver because Big Pharma knows it could work ever bit as well as their antibiotics. Really it can and so can such essential oils as eucalyptus and lemon balm who both contain anti-viral agents.

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      • An issue with antibiotics, if people do take them for whatever reason, is that the gut flora needs to be reestablished afterward, but people seldom do this. Antibiotics take out the good with the bad, and leave your defenses down, paving the way for compromised immunity, poor digestion and absorption of nutrients, increased dysbiosis and problems down the road. It’s vital to restore good bacteria and yeast, but how often are people told to do this?

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        • And thats why its best to avoid antibiotics altogether unless you absolutely have to take them. In Europe, where they have a real medical system, doctors prescribe B vitamins and yogurt along with antibiotics to keep the gut in shape while the person is taking the antibiotics.
          Personally, I’ve always found conventional immune-suppressors very disturbing as your immune system is vital to good health and suppressing it sounds like a bad idea. The key to developing natural resistance to disease is through the immune exposure to the disease. How sad that kids are kept in a bubble wrap today and made to think that bacteria is enemy number one. They use to get outside and play, but now they’ve got diabetes and are obese from shoving down to many drugs, GMO junkfood, and soda.

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  22. I’m on the side of everything in moderation. I don’t believe the Government, media and Big Pharma are in cahoots. I think conspiracy theories are a very very slippery slope (on both the pro-vax and anti-vax side). I also firmly believe in a family’s right to choose. I also think like abortion debates, no matter how much we scream at each other, people are still going to believe what they want. About Wakefield: I am under the impression that the “Fraud” accusation was mostly about his research methods (as someone else mentioned above). Lastly–I’ve come to learn in my work in health care that ASD comes in so many varieties and with various ’causes’ that parents try to pinpoint. The vaccine link is an obvious choice because of the timing of the regression after a vaccine, but what the vaccine link doesn’t answer is questions like why does my friend’s 7 yr old son have autism when he wasn’t vaccinated, ever? They have entered into some studies in Boston to study autism’s link to autoimmunity in the mother. The 7 yr old’s mother has colitis-an autoimmune disease. So, clearly autism has various triggers, not just vaccines. I believe that genetics play a bigger role in autism than vaccine do. I think research needs to focus less on the vaccine issue at the moment and more on the genetics of autism. Things like Cystic Fibrosis used to confound scientists for years and years, children were dying yet they couldn’t find the gene. They have since found the gene. Parents can be screened before conceiving, its life altering knowledge that we now have. If we could only find an autism gene.

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    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
      Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist January 7, 2011 at 7:48 pm

      This is the big scam that is being sold to us, Veronica. You can’t have a genetic epidemic. It is logically impossible. Autism is environmentally caused and likely has many triggers, MMR being only one of them.

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      • I was sort of being sarcastic about the autism gene, or maybe I was speaking metaphorically, saying that it would be great if we could find a “gene”. And I was using CF just to illustrate how the specific causes of an awful disease can sometimes be uncovered. but I don’t believe autism is only environment based. I don’t believe in a big scam. Like I said above. Conspiracy theories or scam theories are very slippery psychological slopes. Eventually people sound paranoid.

        Back to the CF example for a moment. I think its interesting that before good therapies were discovered for CF (and way before the gene was discovered) CF didn’t die out in the human population. It would seem like a self-limiting disease because people who get CF used to die very young and also many CFers are infertile because of the disease. Yet CF was very very smart, it hid itself in people as recessive genes so that it could survive its own self limitations. So it was silently passed on amongst the people. I think autism, while maybe not with one gene to identify, has aspects of it that we can start to trace–like my example before–a friend who has colitis and her autoimmune status could well have affected her son’s status. As I said before, her son was never vaccinated, they lived in rural Alaska, off the grid, ate consciously, healthy, and yet their first born developed autism. Its all interesting.

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    • You may be interested in the reply I just added above concerning the tendency to attribute things to genetics that can be explained by a generational progression of damaged gut flora, as described so beautifully in the Gut and Psychology Syndrome book (get the new 2010 expanded edition).

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      • Beth (and Raine and Sarah),
        What do you think about this report on CNN and the Dr talking about genetics? http://cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2011/01/07/exp.am.intv.chetry.autism.cnn
        I tried to point out above—yes there is something about the gut and flora, but there are genetic predispositions to lots of stuff out there (BRCA 1,2-the breast cancer genes) and autism might have genetic pieces that pre-dispose kids to it? Lets look at Alzheimers—read this from 2009: http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/590106 . How are Alzheimers and Autism different in the sense that the incidences rose, we don’t know a lot about causes, and each are very destructive to families (one affecting young, one affecting old). Yet, lots of research has shown some genetic components to Alzheimers, and its also been called an epidemic in some circles, so yes, Sarah, ‘genetic’ epidemics (loosely defined) can occur. If the environment is triggering some genetic code in people, or unlocking genetic predispositions then I think it can be considered a genetic epidemic.

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        • Genetics certainly can cause disease, however nutritional and environmental figures are often the trigger for such diseases to appear. Honestly, I hate blaming genetics as thats what the orthodox medical establishment always does and it largely contributes to why they believe “only chemicals can cure.” Its why alternative medicine is disregarded by western medical science as they believe diseases are inevitable due to genes. Its take peoples power over their health away from them. We should not be making people a slave to genetics as there are other factors involved in health problems. Thats one of my grudges with conventional medicine, they take peoples power and control over their health away by calling relating everything genetics.

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        • Genes and whether they are active or not change all the time. They change due to events such as vaccination, physical injury, diet, and many other factors. That is why blaming disease on genes is a great excuse for the chemical and drug industry, but almost useless for preventing injury. It is quite possible that any autism gene is activated by the toxins in vaccines such as mercury, aluminum, and many others, or that any autism gene was created in humanity by mercury poisoning.

          What we do know is no one had autism prior to the introduction of mercury preservatives in vaccines.
          Stanley Fishman\’s last post: My Podcast Interview at Our Natural Life

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          • Exactly. That is what I believe about most disease today.
            Environmental toxins and nutritional deficiencies are causing genes to “express” themselves, but no one is a slave to these genes.

            Veronica- Sorry that you find anyone on this blog to be acting like a “conspiracy theorist”. I won’t pretend its a secret that I am horribly bias when it comes to health. However, there are many other blogs and sites out there as well where you can find out the pro-conventional medicine health news you want.

          • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
            Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist January 27, 2011 at 9:12 am

            New article out today: fourteen months before Dr Wakefield’s paper was published, two other researchers – Professor Walker-Smith and Dr Amar Dhillon – independently documented the same problems in these children, including symptoms of autism.

            Can we say YELLOW JOURNALISM anyone? How could Dr. Wakefield have fabricated anything if his results were replicated BEFORE he even did his research? Dr. Wakefield is SO being railroaded.

            Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/031116_Dr_Andrew_Wakefield_British_Medical_Journal.html#ixzz1CEyobayK

  23. By the way Sarah, I forgot to say, great job on this post! I was going to write one for my blog too, but I’ve been incredibly busy with work (it’s good to be busy, isn’t it!). Keep it up, you always have my full support! :)

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    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
      Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist January 7, 2011 at 7:35 pm

      Thanks Raine. Your friendship and support mean so much – I can’t tell you! :)

      Comrades in arms we are! LOL

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  24. I was waiting for this blog to come about after I heard the news. I am a great grandmother and stay interested in all of this. My comments are very simple.
    My first reaction was “aha! Big Pharma is being hit in the wallet big time as more parents are waking up and not falling for their scare tactics or threats.
    My second reaction was to the first irate customer here. I was raised on a farm with basic healthy kinds of food ……nothing far out as fast foods were not invented yet. LOL When I was an infant and my sister, 3 years old…… we both got whooping cough at the same time. Both of us had really nasty cases of it so neither parent had much sleep for quite some time as they would have to get up when we “whooped” so as to help us breathe.
    We both lived to tell about it…….we both have grown old. It was not a death sentence for us.
    Our bodies are designed by God to be able to heal themselves given the right treatment and care. I would hazard a guess that if there are more deaths happening now, it is not because the disease is more dangerous but rather the treatments being used are more hazardous……….there are good old time remedies that are far better and far safer so one shouldn’t throw the baby out with the bath…………..and the simple basics of healthy eating are not a top priority. I am not speaking of the extent we on the WP board try to eat……… but the simple emphasis on the veggies, fruits, meats and good fats……….. and not putting fast food and sugar laden foods so high on the pedestal to be worshipped.
    I suspect this may seem a bit disjointed as I had to drop in quickly as my time is short but I wanted to add my two cents
    I am sure many will think I over simplify…….but I still hold to the premise of money as the ruler of too many, which causes a lot of danger and poor advice…………. and you are what you eat.
    So….. thank you Sarah……..I am so glad you opened this up and I personally applaud those who are seeking wisdom before they jump into anything.

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  25. Hello everyone – I have been reading the comments here, and can see that this has already been a heady debate. I wanted to point out that Wake Forest Medical University in North Carolina has been doing research on the MMR-autism link and it solidifies what Dr. Wakefield has known all along –

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-388051/Scientists-fear-MMR-link-autism.html

    As well, one of the arguments used was that something like 5 children were found to have “already been exhibiting symptoms of autism” before the vaccines, which was supposed to somehow show the study to be invalid. I don’t understand why folks believe autism comes on like a light switch – one minute it’s off, the next on. In fact, autism stars in the gut before conception with the parent’s gut flora – it’s what creates the flora environment for the infant. If anyone were to read Dr. Natasha Campbell-McBride’s research – and I know Sarah has – you could see that the vaccine is just another tipping point, like many others such as diet and lifestyle – but a powerful one. How many parents have reported that their child went from “normal” one day to “not normal” the next? These reports are not invalid, but it could lead many people to believe that autism is not there one day, and appears out of nowhere the next. This logic is faulty and does not take into account all that is present in the development of a disease like autism. Any disease or disorder is in the body long before there are signs of it, and Dr. McBride- a respected pediatric neurosurgeon, has intelligently and plainly articulated this information in her book, Gut and Psychology Syndrome. So when reporters state the faulty reasoning that since those children had autism before the vaccines, it proves the fraudulent quality of the study, that’s just plain incorrect. What it does prove, however, is that there are a lot of symptoms and behaviors children exhibit which many consider to be “normal”, like learning disorders, hyperactivity, anger issues, despondent behavior, developmental and speech delays, ADD, and others which are not normal at all and are actually markers for gut and digestive disorders. And those affect overall health. The problem is, doctors either don’t know these facts or refuse to acknowledge them in treatment of childhood illness and disorders which lead to chronic disease.

    There’s a reason the medical community won’t even consider telling you that you have a choice as far as vaccination is concerned and wouldn’t dare to suggest you feed your children nutrient-dense foods which could protect their immune system and keep them from getting sick. It’s called profit. There’s no profit to be made in bolstering children’s (or anyone else’s for that matter) health by eating well. If that did happen, there would be an awfully big vacancy in the waiting rooms of doctor’s offices and hospitals alike.

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    • Raine you had me at everything you said until your last paragraph about how the medical community doesn’t suggest feeding children nutrient-dense foods to protect the immune system and how waiting rooms of doctor’s offices would be vacant if they did but there is too much profit to be gained by pushing vaccines. Please, people, stop with the conspiracy theories about the medical community. Why would the ENTIRE medical community be in on the conspiracy? How is it possible that each and every medical school has taught their students to avoid intuitive types of approaches like “good diet and exercise” just to push a profit instead? The generalizations about doctors throughout some of these posts are so disheartening to me. And no, i’m not a doctor. But I do teach at medical schools (about humanism in medicine). How could the whole U.S. healthcare system be in on the game? Our government can’t even make health care reform without republicans and democrats fighting over it ad nauseam. You think that somehow there is some secret bat phone where everyone in the medical community talks about how to dupe the public and refuses to suggest diet and exercise as a way to boost your immune system?
      I’m not attacking you here, I guess I’m just depressed.

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  26. Oh, one other thing I noticed while reading the posts… does Debbie work for Monsanto? It is illogical to blame those who choose not to vaccinate, for health problems. I work at a hospital, and finding out that “medicine” is not only fallible, but OFTEN does more harm than good, was VERY difficult for me to believe. God allowed me to be where I could SEE it. (He knows what we need.) So, Debbie, do more research. Open your mind and heart. I heard someone say “Your failure to be informed does Not make me a Wacko.” Think about it.

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  27. I just want to say to all the parents and grandparents; you didn’t know, as many of us did not know! I stopped all vaccines after reading an article on NoGreaterJoy website concerning vaccines, about 10 years ago. Gradually, I have been learning about TRUE health and wellness, by the grace of GOD. Start today, little changes lead to bigger ones. Don’t believe anything, until you have checked for yourself. We trusted the medical community and never should have given up our responsibility for our family’s health. I have worked in healthcare for 26 years and I have come to this conclusion from SEEING it firsthand. God bless every person who chooses to “seek and find” what God wanted for us all along! I really appreciate every website that speaks the TRUTH! Thank you! Texas Mom

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  28. All I know is that my granddaughter was a happy healthy baby until her MMR shot. She then became a zombie (as another poster stated). She is 11 now and doing well, but will never be normal. So sad.

    I also believe that there is a genetic involvement as well. I, as a child was bombarded with penicillin in the 50′s and 60′s. Consequently, I was left with Candida issues. My son has Asperger’s Syndrome which is a mild form of Autism. He is able to function as a normal adult, but has his limitations. It is his daughter who is Autistic.

    It is so sad and frustrating that the politicians in this country are supporting the pharmaceutical companies because of their campaign contributions, and just don’t care about the people at all.

    There is something else I don’t understand. Why are the people who so wholeheartedly disagree with you even receiving your blogs? I’m left scratching my head on that one.

    Good job as usual Sarah! You have my full support!

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    • Joan, I think you might really get a lot out of reading the new edition of the GAPS book, Gut and Psychology Syndrome, especially the chapters that explain the patterns in families that sometimes get attributed to genetics but which can be explained by a decline from one generation to the next due to damaged gut flora. There’s a very readable explanation of the complex digestive system and how it can become compromised, and what the many results can be over time. Each new baby picks up the flora of the mother, either good or bad, when going through the birth canal and through the mother’s milk. Then any number of factors during life can either build up or break down the health of the immune system that resides in the gut, and the ability or inability to properly digest and get nourishment from food, fend off pathogens, filter out toxins, etc. She talks of an all-too-common family progression where grandmother has digestive issues, daughter has candida, eczema, depression or autoimmune problems, etc., granddaughter has ADD/ADHD, Asperger’s, Autism, etc. (She also has an interesting and thoughtful discussion about the difficult topic of vaccines.) The great thing is, it is possible to restore gut health and halt the progression described above.

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  29. Lorelei aka Hawaiigirl January 7, 2011 at 4:26 pm

    So, I have a question that I haven’t found a good answer to yet. What if you started out on the pro-vax bandwagon, and have since changed your mind? My kids have had their shots up to the ones for kindergarten, but now my daughter is coming up to her 12 yo shots. Should we finish the series, now that it’s started? I can’t find a good answer.

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    • My kids are also immunized up to the kindergarten series. Now that they are healthy and not sickly looking, I would never go back to pumping them full of poisons. Since changing our diets and refusing to immunize, my family has never been healthier! I recommend to everyone to be informed and make the best decision for your family- remember, you are putting this stuff in your children!

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  30. Dr Sherri tenpenny has several books & DVDs out that analyze the CDC’s own data on vaccines if you don’t have the time to research it for yourself from the CDC’s own website. There is no black and white answer to what we as parents all want for our children, which is we want them to be safe, healthy & secure in our care. We have the responsibility as parents to research this info on our own & then make a decision based on what we have learned. I for one consider myself informed and I certainly do not consent. When I was not informed and listened to my pediatritian blindly without researching vaccination on my own, I allowed my first two children to be immunized. When I started researching and reading everything I could find on the subject I decided vaccination would not touch my last two children.

    Our health does not come on the end of a needle. It comes from a good diet and good hygiene and having a happy home. We were born in perfection yet the medical community at large & pharmaceutical companies are telling us otherwise, that to be healthy we need to give our children & ourselves their concotion.

    Vaccines are nothing more than a pharmaceutical product that carries risks. They trick the immune system and can permanently alter the molecular structure of genes: under the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986, over $2 billion has been awarded to children
    and adults for whom the risks of vaccine injury were 100 percent.

    I for one, am glad that Sarah blogs about the other side of mainstream thinking. Her blog makes one think for themselves, which apparently some people do not do that often. I was one of those people 11 years ago…

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  31. Here are a few more quotes from John O’Leary, one of the earliest scientists to refute and denounce Wakefield’s findings: “The testing continued until late 2003 and reports were provided to Alexander Harris and to the UK Court on our findings. These did not support the MMR/autism hypothesis.

    I trust that this demonstrates that there was no conflict of interest on my part and anything written or published to the contrary would be libellous and untrue.”

    and “After publication of this paper and the subsequent media interest in it, I issued a press statement stating that children must be vaccinated with MMR. In addition, I stated that I never suggested a link between MMR and autism, and indeed MMR is not mentioned in the paper. I also requested the media to accurately report the research and to allow the debate to be carried out in the scientific press.”

    Take a wander over to: http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2008/09/the-exoneration-of-john-oleary/

    http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=370
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  32. thank you for being brave enough to say what you have said today even though, I am sure, you knew you would be attcked for it. we are far too afraid these days to speak out about what we believe. I admire your courage.

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  33. I was wondering, is Dr. Wakefield’s paper available to read online somewhere? I have seen his study quoted so many times by both pro-vax and anti-vax people, that I really want to read it for myself once to form my own opinion.
    One thing I have heard about it, and in a research context, not in a discussion about vaccinating or not, is that his methods were very flawed. Is this what the news on CNN is about now, his research methods? Or his actual findings? That would make rather a difference…
    But anyway, if you know where I could find the complete text of his study, that would be much appreciated.

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    • I found this link off of another page on this story for the original paper:

      I unfortunately believed that vaccines were safe and took what the baby well clinic told me that they were safe now today my son is autistic and has sever bowel problems that are from the MMR shot. He developed a fever, rash, diarrhea and turned into a little zombie 9 days after his vaccination (the nurse said that he might get a fever around 10 days but that is normal). I believe that it wasn’t just that one but all the others leading up to it as well. He had reactions to all of them but we kept being told it was ok and normal, never told the risks. I wish someone had warned me of the risks.

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  35. Kate @ Modern Alternative Mama January 7, 2011 at 12:25 pm

    Now I just have to decide, do I post this to my Facebook or not?

    See, I saw the stories over the last couple days. And I planned to ignore them, even though all my pro vax friends cheered it, like it was the “last straw” against the “anti vax wackos.” I was just not getting into that discussion.

    Then someone posted it directly to MY wall. Sigh. That puts me in a difficult position because I don’t want that sitting there. Deleting it would offend my friend who thought she was “helping” me. I don’t want to defend my choice again. I simply said “My choice is based on far more than this research and this changes nothing, that’s all I’m going to say.” But I’m feeling frustrated because they don’t know the whole story and they’re acting all superior, like this proves they were right all along. Anyone who looks to the media’s reports for their major information is crazy. There’s so much more out there!

    I’ve been aware this was coming for months, and about Dr. Wakefield’s additional research, and research corroborating him, and many other issues with vaccines that have nothing to do with this. And frankly it’s just insulting when people suggest that since the mainstream has successfully smeared, I mean, “discredited” him, that I ought to say “Oh! I had no idea! I’ll change my mind and go have my kids vaccinated today!” Sorry, but it wasn’t a decision I made lightly! And this certainly doesn’t change a thing!

    Sorry, had to vent to someone who understands!
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  36. Vaccinating my children with basic requirements for school, was agonizing for me . I worried about reactions. Family friends had their child vaccinated and he had a bad reaction but recovered. The Dr told them it was safe to continue his vaccines. After the next shot, he was left with severe brain damage. There was NO doubt it was directly caused by his vaccine. During their lawsuits, which they won, the pharm co tried to shift the cause of his reaction to something else, but in the end, the parents were following the advice of the Drs who followed the recommendations of the drug company. Had they avoided immunization, their child would be normal. Today, the increased # of required vaccines is alarming. I can’t imagine giving so many. As a child, I had chronic ear infections, strep throat, often sick, and as a young adult developed auto immunne diseases, severe psoriasis, RA, lupus. Took steroids 3 years and Enbrel 4 years, and developed severe asthma, chronic bronchitis. 9 months ago, I stopped all meds, changed my eating and haven’t been been sick since, all illnesses have cleared up which they believed was impossible. The Dr’s wanted me to increase my meds and I said no, enough is enough. Thank God we have the freedom to choose life. Thanks Sarah for contributing to my journey, results speak louder than scientific confusion. I am empowered and set free that I can strengthen by body to the point it is now able to fight off disease and heal itself rather than be controlled by Dr’s, meds and my insurance coverage. I hope you grow and prosper in your blog and you deserve whatever you earn from it!

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    • Just out of curiosity did your RA completely go away after changing your diet? We started my son, who has RA, on a better diet grain, dairy, egg free high in good fats … and we have seen good results but it has not gone away. After four months his eczema is gone so I think its a sign his gut is healing, but I would like to know to what extent I should expect healing.

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  37. When making the decision about whether or not to vaccinate my son, and soon my daughter, I didn’t look to any groups, blogs or even medical recommendations. I looked at the CDC’s raw data. Not the summary reports from their data, but the data itself. It took forever, but my children are worth the time and effort. It’s amazing what you find in there if you take the time to look. Sadly, most journalist, medical organizations and concerned parents won’t take the time to read and understand the *actual* data for themselves.

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  38. Bravo Sarah! Thank you for once again connecting dots. I will echo other posters in asking others to please do not believe what you read. Don’t believe Sarah. Do your own research. Having researched information for years, when I come across someone like Sarah who writes about topics I already am aware of and agree with, I will take a closer look at what she has to say. If she presents something new or connects some dots for me, I will look into it myself if it is something of importance to me. She gives us a lot to think about and a great place to start. For this, I am very grateful. The bottom line is, she might not be right but what if she is? What does that mean to you and our responsibility as humans to one another? It is very apparent that the information is not cut and paste. We are all doing the best we can and trying to help each other in the process. It is with reading information like this that helps me to think, question and act differently than if I hadn’t.

    Now, having said that, I would like to add something to this topic. I read numerous blogs, articles and participate on yahoo groups, many health related but am a total layperson. One interesting connection that I feel that is being made in regards to autism is the digestive system of the mother, specifically the colon. Apparently the health of the colon is passed onto the child and the colon could be a key to our health; keep it healthy and clean and you will not get sick. If you read enough, you will find out that many, many illness stem from an unhealthy colon. So, perhaps the children who have a compromised or weakened colon who are immunized can’t handle the ingredients in the vaccine and the body ends up with an auto-immune reaction which, in some, manifests into autism. Are there things to do besides not vaccinating? I seeing more and more (mostly alternative) health practitioners recommend that the mother really work on their immune systems and make sure their colon is in top notch shape before getting pregnant. Is it making a difference? I don’t know. I just know that if I understood that my colon health would affect my unborn child’s that I would do my best to make it as clean and healthy as possible. If I knew that my health system was a little weak when I was pregnant, I would take it into consideration when making the decision to vaccinate or not vaccinate knowing information like this. I did the best I could at the time I had my child with what I knew and could find from information out there. Would I do something differently with what I now know? Absolutely.

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    • Carrie, I think you are onto something with your 2nd paragraph (although your whole post is good too). A friend of mine (I just posted about it below) has a 7 yr old son with autism. They never vaccinated him. Not one. Yet, his mother has colitis, a bad colon autoimmune disorder. They entered into a study in Boston to look at this. Results aren’t out yet. Some have talked about moms with colon diseases taking pro-biotics before getting pregnant/during pregnancy. Wonder if that will lead somewhere.

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  39. I believe the term “herd immunity” is being used here incorrectly.
    Nonetheless, if a vaccine won’t work for my child unless your child also receives it, then, we have utter nonesense. Either it works or it doesn’t. No busybodying required.

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  40. Sarah,
    I appreciate your information. As James said, this blog is not The Gospel of Sarah it is information that readers can use as they see fit. I’m sure some people read the blog on Ginger Snaps and haven’t yet made them and have no intention of making them. That’s ok, it’s their choice.
    I fear we may never truly know the cause of autism and the truth to any link between vaccines. Meanwhile, new parents like my husband and I are left with page after page of reports, research, studies and opinions from both sides of the equation and still have no answers. I will continue to as God for direction in vaccinating our son and trust that He knows far better than any of us ever will.

    SOMETHING is causing an incrase in Autism. If it’s not vaccations then what is it?

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    • I have heard that mothers would have autoimmune disorders are more likely to have children with autism. So possibly all of the women eating SAD diets have some sort of automimmune issues and then have children with autism. But honestly not sure why there is a rise in autism!!!

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  41. The media is acting as if Dr Wakefield’s research was the only support for the fact that mercury laced vaccines cause autism. That is absolutely not true, Their is a growing mountain of other evidence that proves the same fact.

    The real fraud was described by Robert Kennedy Jr in his article entitled “Deadly Immunity”. He used the actual records of a conference between the CDC and Big Pharma where they discussed how to hide the results of a comprehensive study showing that the mercury in vaccines caused autism. Not only did they hide the study, they got to the Doctor who conducted the original research.

    Dr Meyer Eisenstein heads a medical group where most children are never vaccinated. The group has cared for over 30,000 children who have never been vaccinated. Not one of those children has autism. No child in their practice has autism, with the only exception being some of those who were vaccinated.

    A study of Amish children who had not been vaccinated found that none of them, not one, had Autism. The only exceptions were a couple of children who were adopted and had been vaccinated.

    There are literally hundreds of other examples, all being ignored by the media.

    Dr. Wakefield vigorously defended his research for many years, despite being under constant attack. Which makes his sudden “confession” very questionable. Confessions under duress are not rare in human history.

    As for the flu, Health care workers in New York (Doctors and Nurses) staged a revolt when the state tried to force them to get the flu vaccines. Even at the risk of their jobs. The revolt was so widespread that the state had to back down, because these health professionals would not allow themselves to be vaccinated. These health care professionals are more familiar with the effects of vaccines than anybody. If vaccines are safe, why would they risk being fired to avoid them?

    There was a big shortage in flu vaccine in the US a couple years ago. Vaccination rates were way down. The result? The number of flus and flu deaths DROPPED like a stone. Only one third as many people died of the flu as died in the previous year, when far more people were vaccinated.
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    • The Amish do not believe in autism, or a myriad of other mental health issues. That is why none is found there. This “doctors” confession was not sudden. He said the study he did was not accurate years ago. It should have been refuted at that time.
      Sorry, but you are very wrong about the flu. We were (and still are) in a pandamic. The shortage of the vaccine was due to the inability to seed it, due to it being a novel virus. In reality, according to CDC statistics about 1,200 people die of the flu, they are usually elderly or very young. Over 30,000 people died in America of H1N1. They were mostly young and healthy.

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      • The Amish study was done by a medical professional who believes in Autism, and personally observed the children. Autism cannot be missed.

        The World Health Organization estimated in December, 2010, that slightly over 10,000 people had died from H1N1 up to that time, in the ENTIRE WORLD. 10,000 out of more than 6 billion is not a pandemic.

        The CDC, in its final report on the H1N1 flu season, estimated that between 8900 and 18000 Americans died from H1N1. However, the CDC admitted in the same document that only 341 pediatric deaths were actually confirmed to be from H1N1.

        During this same period, hundreds of thousands of Americans died from prescription drugs.
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    • If it’s true that mercury causes autism, how do you explain the odd fact that mercury was eliminated from vaccines some years ago, but autism rates did not change? At least, that’s what they said on CNN.

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      • Very logical question. One that has occurred to many.
        First, many anti vaccine organizations have had the so called “mercury free” vaccines tested, and found mercury. A chemistry professor investigated and stated that vaccines are manufactured with mercury. The vaccines are then put through a filtering process that is supposed to remove the mercury. The chemist found that the filtering process does not work very well, and a lot of the mercury is left in the vaccines. As long as the vaccines are put through the filtering process, the government considers them mercury free, and does not test them. But the mercury is still there

        What we do know is that nobody was diagnosed with Autism until 1934, the year mercury was first used in vaccines.(source, Robert Kennedy jr., “Deadly Immunity”)

        As for your trust in CNN, I suggest you count the number of drug ads that appear on that station. Drug ads are the biggest single source of income for television stations. The mainstream news media has sold out to the drug companies for profit, and always supports the positions of those companies.
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      • I just had to comment, I could not walk away, I’m sorry. “At least that’s what they said on CNN.” LOL Right…. It seems to me that a LOT of the pro-vaccine people get their “facts” from the tv!

        And us anti-vaccine people just don’t give our children vaccines because we feel like dealing with all the things that are thrown at us over the issue. No it is because we are the ones who have actually done the research and don’t sit around and say, “Oh the guy on the TV said it so it must be true!”

        It is really incredible to see the amount of people that are so uneducated on the vaccine issue…

        Thank you for all you do Sarah!

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    • Stanley,
      My sister in law is a nurse and was once of the health care professionals outraged by the mandate. She felt her rights were being violated, but mostly was very frightened of the shot. Her husband had it the year before and swore it off after getting very ill. She also made sure to break up the MMR shot for her son! Right after that, they no longer came out with the broken up MMR shot.
      I have held off my son, so far. He is five, but school is coming in September, and the school will give me trouble. I am working hard on giving him bone broth each day to support his gut lining, which Dr. Natasha Campbell-McBride suggests is where all illness begins. She feels that the reason some children have no trouble with the MMR and others are struck with Autism, is that it’s the “straw that broke the camel’s back” with regard to these children’s damaged gut lining. It’s a cumulative effect of damaged gut lining from poor diet, antibiotics, mother’s and father’s poor gut flora (and birth canal flora) and environmental toxins. Any thoughts?
      Nourishing Nancy\’s last post: Pancakes that are tasty- grain free and GAPS approved

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      • Nancy,
        Depending on which state you’re in, you can get an exemption. I know VA and NJ are especially tough – I hope you’re not there!! I’m in GA and I use the religious exemption. I have two boys: 1 and 6.5. Both are completely vax-free. Older one is in first grade – I’ve never had any problems with using the exemption in home daycare, pre-K or elementary school. Google “vaccination exemptions”. Good luck.

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  42. jenna, wishing more people utilized common sense.... January 7, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    Sarah – isn’t it funny how people keep blaming the unvaccinated children and us, their parents, for new outbreaks and such……but anger stems from FEAR and what the heck are they afraid of if their children are ‘safely’ VACCINATED against these outbreaks? Shouldn’t WE be the ones afraid??? I guess people just enjoy getting their panties in a wad – and ignorance must be bliss, ey?!? Lol – keep posting the TRUTH in these ‘dark ages of learning’ where the masses put all their faith and believe wholeheartedly yet blindly in the ‘professionals’ even when sound logic and reason, and proof from thousands of ill children (like mine w/ their food allergies, etc) would speak volumes otherwise!!!! My children have never been healthier after I finally obtained the knowledge and the GUTS to REFUSE all the vaccines, and we began to follow Bee’s diet at http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com. Bravo and thank you! We love your blog and sing your praises!!!!!!

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    • She obviously does not know how small the amount of money brought in by those ads actually is. Sarah could make far more money doing other things, with her experience and professional background. We are so lucky that Sarah is helping us all by blogging and telling the truth. I have learned so much here that has helped me and my family.

      God bless you, Sarah.
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    • I know I found that funny, too.
      I’m sure the people coming on here standing up for the pro-vaccine side have never done the proper research (even if Wakefield is a fraud theres been many other reputable studies showing that vaccines are deadly) or being paid by Big Pharma itself. In fact, I think thats why most of them are doing it. We know they own the media so their probably trying to own the internet now. The government is already trying to shut down certain websites.

      It must suck to life in the mainstream, I feel bad for the kids especially as they never asked for that. The mainstream world tries its best to throw its cloak of deceit and authority over you.

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  43. Well, he admitted he made up the study years ago. He made 675,000 dollars for doing it. That is a huge incentitive to not tell the truth. He had his liscense to practice medicine revoked. They don’t do that, just for conspiracy theories. Vaccines are extremely important in today’s world. Ask me how many people are dying in England right now because of the flu? As of today it is estimated 40% of the beds in all of their hospitals are filled with people with the flu. They have cancelled all of their sugeries, and the hospitals are now at code black. How many of the people that died, could have been alive today, if they got their flu shot?
    We have stopped many diseases because of herd immunity. If enough people do not get their children immunized than not only do we open the door for diseases to come back, but to also mutate, so that even people that have been immunized will be succeptable to get them.
    I do not want to see polio, small pox and other diseases making a comeback.
    In this country we have a free choice to make our own decissions. But this is not a free choice, other people will pay for this choice, and some will do it with their lives.

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    • And people have the choice to drive on a ice-covered road or speed. They may crash into someone else or have someone else in their car who is affected by the choice. Someone will pay with their life.
      Why should I have to risk my health with a vaccine to supposedly “protect” people who refuse to learn about the alternatives?

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      • That is faulty logic. No on chooses to have a car crash, that is why it is called a accident. A crash only hurts the people involved. We are talking about the whole community. Your choice does effect everyone around you every day.

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        • And your logic is very faulty as well. If vaccines worked then it wouldn’t be necessary for everyone to get vaccinated. In fact, vaccines aren’t necessary at all. Theres many natural and alternative remedies to use when your child falls ill. You don’t need to resort to injecting them to protect them from an illness.
          I refuse to give up my health due to a stupid vaccine because of some idiot parent who refuses to stop feeding their kids junkfood and doesn’t find alternatives to the vaccine. get over it.

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          • Show me the natural remedy to cure small pox or polio. Many very healthy people died of the flu last year. Stop eating the junkfood is great, but that is not going to stop you from getting sick.
            You are talking about herd immunity. It is necessary for a certain number of people to get them. I don’t think you really understand science very well.
            Get over it? I know that my choices aren’t going to cause someone else NEEDLESS suffering and pain. I have my child vaccinated. I am not going to cause someone else to get sick.

          • Kelli,
            Vaccines aren’t necessary at all? Have you read the history of Smallpox in terms of how it affected civilizations thousands or even hundreds of years ago? There are alternatives to traditional medicines, yes, there are not alternatives to vaccines. You either get vaccinated against diseases or you do not. Yes, having a healthy immune system would help you fight off an infection, so good eating and exercise are excellent tools to to keep your immune system healthy. Maybe there are too many vaccines out now. But Smallpox vaccine singlehandedly changed civilizations a long time ago. Natural remedies wouldn’t save you from smallpox if it were still around.

  44. Pavil, The Uber Noob January 7, 2011 at 10:17 am

    I think most of us would be astonished by the degree to which large corporate interests have insinuated themselves into everyday media and government. Net result:
    1. Science is for sale.
    2. Government is not your friend.
    3. Media is on a tight leash.

    BTW, be sure to ask your physician if AstraZeneca is right for you :)

    Ciao,
    Pavil

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  45. If someone is so naive as to take what one person say’s as gospel, then that is on them. However if you read both sides of the debate, do your own research, and form your OWN opinions then you have done your due diligence to make an informed decision in your child’s health.

    This is a very sensitive subject with new parents trying to make the right decision for their children, and preying on those emotions by the pro or anti vaccination groups is, in my eyes a form of terrorism.

    Sarah doesn’t write this blog so she can start a cult of people that think only the way She does, She writes it so that her readers can see a different side of things they may not be able to if all they do is watch the MSM. If you are too ignorant to see that, then I have pity for you.

    I will leave you with the advice my Mom would always tell me growing up “Don’t believe everything you read”.

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  46. Kristen,
    What in the world is wrong with Sarah blogging about what she believes? She presents “the other side” and that is quite necessary for keeping people alert and educated. When people don’t consider the other possibilities, analyze the research, and remain always on alert, we can so easily be taken advantage of. Freedom of speech is beautiful, and however Sarah wants to present her findings and beliefs is up to her. There certainly is no need for such rude criticism.
    And certainly that is a one-sided attack from you on an entity that receives money in conjunction with a service or product or information that is provided. That is done everywhere and that is how economies exist. It’s absolutely none of our business how much the ads want to give Sarah. There is money behind the vaccines and money behind not giving vaccines. Who cares?

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    • The reason it’s pertinent is that SARAH accuses the MSM of distorting the truth because of payments (direct or indirect) from BigPharma. If she can make that accusation (which may be accurate for all we know) then others can surely point out the logical extension of her argument when it works against her.

      Certainly there’s freedom of speech, but many people rely on Sarah to do the research they can’t or won’t do themselves. IMO that conveys a level of responsibility that exceeds simply posting one’s opinion.

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  47. Yet, you do not address any of the points I raise. Typical response from you. You know if you are going to take money for only posting one side of every argument and not answer your critics, then really you are no different than CNN or big pharma, are you?

    Your condescending reply comes across awfully defensive.

    Keep up the propaganda. You are no better than the exact people you criticize.

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  48. Comedy, as always.

    Let’s talk about saying thing for money. How many ads can I count on your blog???

    No one on your side of this topic wants to talk about a lot of these diseases coming back and infecting our children at rates not seen in years. I’m open to the idea that there may be a link between vaccines and autism. But I’m open minded enough to talk about the benefits of vaccines as well.

    Vaccinating your child is a risk. Not vaccinating your child is a risk. Neither choice is black or white.

    Care to disclose to your readers who believe that you are only blogging for their health how much money you pull in from this site?

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    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

      Kristen, thank you so much for giving me such a hearty laugh so early in the morning! Do I force you to say what I want you to say when you come to this site and if you don’t I destroy your life? Last time I checked, you were free to post whatever you like here, so your seemingly witty little comment doesn’t in fact, apply now, does it?

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  49. Check your sources January 7, 2011 at 5:12 am

    A statement by Dr John O’Leary:

    “At no time have I set out to prove that MMR causes autism. Instead, I have sought to investigate a novel bowel pathology in children with autism. In our Molecular Pathology paper we have described an association between the presence of measles virus and new variant inflammatory bowel disease. We have never claimed that this is causal and indeed I have been forthright in transmitting this information to the public at large in the form of press statements. I have and continue to urge people to vaccinate their children. My advices and findings were consistently and persistently to vaccinate children and to use MMR.”

    So your alternate expert does NOT suggest that MMR *caused* the autism, but he also promotes and encourages vaccination. Your alternate expert also acknowledges that Dr Wakefield’s research was compromised. MMR doesn’t only exist in vaccines.

    Using italics and printing things in red doesn’t make it true.

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    • Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

      What you’ve printed is a statement from a physician with a gun to his head threatened with career suicide unless he stated otherwise. Nothing more. Dr. Wakefield chose not to refute the findings that were the same as Dr. O’Leary’s and hence his career was destroyed.

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          • Normally I’m a big fan, Sarah, and I have no dog in this fight. BUT, your responses here are beneath you, both in tone and content. I watched Anderson Cooper, who I greatly respect, ask the doctor about the PARENTS of the children in his study who said he misrepresented the information about their kids. Why would they do that? There’s no profit motive there. They’re not being paid by Pharma, or at risk of losing jobs. Apparently they told the reporter Dr. Wakefield’s version of the children’s status was incorrect, and therefore his conclusions from that faulty data were faulty also. That’s pretty basic reasoning, isn’t it? How can you just dismiss it?

      • Who is holding the gun to O’Leary’s head? So just to be clear-you are saying Wakefield is trying to save his career by saying everyone else is lying, and O’Leary is trying to save his career by lying. If both are posing as truth tellers, whom to believe? So the Dr whose theories you support is the victim and the Dr you (now) disagree with is the villain (or liar with a gun to his head). Seems a little convenient, don’t you think? Is there no middle ground here? Can we say that some people want to save their butts and some people lie a bit, some tell some truths while some others will give up careers on principle. Does it have to be one or the other? Why is it such a black and white issue in your mind?

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  50. Are you kidding me? I’ve been wondering what you’d have to say about this. Not only was his research almost immediately refuted for using shoddy methodology but now he’s been proven to have manufactured information that was pertinent to his findings. And you’re going to say there’s a conspiracy afoot? Seriously? Fraud pays, baby. Wakefield perpetuated his fraud because he wanted his own vaccine to take over the world market. His motivation was purely selfish monetary gain. Guess what? He got it. In the form of all you adoring fans who blatantly ignore real science and real facts so that you can continue to have a noncause to get behind. You pay to see him speak and he cashes those checks laughing the whole way to the bank. Does it weigh on your consciouses at all the babies who died from Whooping Cough? You know you’re the cause of that. You are reducing the herd immunity. YOU may be able to feed your kids a very healthy diet, keep their atmosphere sparklingly clean, limit their exposure to immune-system-weakening diseases and nuzzle them on through a pertussis infection — but the poor kids’ moms who couldn’t afford their immunizations let alone the organic vegetables and grass fed beef and free range eggs have now had to bury their kids thanks to the pertussis comeback you’ve helped create. Maybe a damned good lawyer will get hold of those poor kids’ grieving mothers and sue the crap out of you, and the other popular anti-vaxxers out there who spread this nonsense like it’s whole-fat butter on your homemade whole grain toast.

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  51. Thank you. I’ve been to a couple of DAN! conferences and seen Dr. Wakefield speak. I haven’t even allowed myself to read any of the reports of ‘fraud’. It makes me so mad. The only thing I can think of when I hear things like this are the parents. The thousands (millions?) of parents with all the similar stories and proof that prove otherwise. Ugh.

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  52. Oh, I saw the headline for that CNN article as well, but I didn’t click on it because I knew it would make me angry. Without a doubt the pro-vaccine propagandists will use this bogus news report as another sorry excuse to defend profit-driven medicine’s big con job called vaccines. Its sad that children have to continue dying and being injured due to the ignorance and disregard of the medical establishment. What a tragedy. What has the world come to? Its also very sad what Big Pharma has done to Dr. Wakefield. He was a wonderful researcher who deserves far better than what the imbecile media is giving him.

    But your right, Sarah. the fight is not over and I for one will never give up fighting. Its time that everyone know that vaccines are unnecessary and harmful. I think parents who continue to vaccinate their children after they’ve been injured by them should be locked in jail not the good parents of the world who actually care about their kids health.

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  53. Thanks for this post. I was hoping you’d have a response to the news that surfaced. I never know what/how to respond to these outrageous “studies” (yet), I just get really irritated. Thanks for giving me a clear head on these important issues.

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